30 years of demoscene and I never thought I'd see this. You, sir, win the 2021 demoscene.

@Sempoo

2 жыл бұрын

This one is a gem^^, but you may be also interested in hearing C=64 in binaural stereo: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dp6l0dKBj8K1YZc.html

@pygamebooker

2 жыл бұрын

yes, indeed!

@commodork

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, running a demo on a /peripheral/ takes the cake.

@IstvanNagy86

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sempoo woah, now this is creepy to see my video linked by the man who created the mix. Hats of sir, this mix is really good by the way, I hope you don't mind I've uploaded it to KZread.

@skweek256

2 жыл бұрын

@@commodork Especially with the the trills, it's not just an example of how it could be done it's an example of how to do it well.

Floppotron: I can play music! 1541: Hold my beer.

@tiges

2 жыл бұрын

programs that play music on a stepper motor have been known for a long time and they destroy this motor.

@32Bits

2 жыл бұрын

@@tiges that's the point we have seen stepper motor music but never have you seen a floppy drive make music and video this is a whole new category of demo I call it FDAV or Floppy Drive Audio and Video Demo and it's. it's Amazing :)

- Quiss doesn't use 1541 as the second CPU. He uses it as the only CPU!!! Quiss is Chuck Norris of the C64 scene. :)

@dominickyritsis8095

2 жыл бұрын

I'd say MacGyver is more fitting!

@ulrichkalber9039

2 жыл бұрын

Chuck Norris replays "Walker Texas Ranger" from that floppy drive In Full HD Color HDR

@wobdq248

2 жыл бұрын

indeed

@GreatNorthWeb

2 жыл бұрын

When Chuck Norris writes functions they never have arguments. Chuck Norris got a computer virus and it died. Chuck Norris' computer does not have an escape key. Nothing escapes Chuck Norris.

@danielmantione

2 жыл бұрын

... CPU *and* GPU.

I've been following the demoscene for 30 years, this is the most incredible and unthinkable thing I've ever seen. You're a fucking genius!

Started watching the video and when Matthias cut the cables, I thought it was going to be some dumb April fools video. Somehow I kept on watching and my brain froze. I had to rewatch the video twice to believe what my eyes just saw: the coolest C64 related demo ever!

This floppy drive has better graphics than the RCA Studio II.

Completely useless, distracted a smart man from productive work and probably burnt many hours of precious time... This is art in its pure form ❤️

One of the most impressive C64 ... oh, got confused ... 1541 demos I have ever seen! What a timing nightmare! Hats off!

This is absolutely mindfuck. Of all demos I have ever seen, and I have seen over a thousand, this one takes the cake!

That's bad ass!

@Murrlin27

2 жыл бұрын

Hello there!

@joeynrg

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed! Technical Wizardry and great demo.

@iLoxy42

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@Dannzenful

2 жыл бұрын

Oh what a surprise to find u here :)

@grokness

2 жыл бұрын

That is *exactly* what I just said to myself right before I read your comment. 🤩

This was a jawdropper.. Never seen anything like it. Blew my mind.

This wins all demo scene competitions - ever!

OH GOD I CAN FEEL MY 1541s IN MY CLOSET GETTING MORE MISALIGNED AS THIS GOES ON.

Amazing work. This is one of the coolest and most imaginative demos I have ever seen. It blows my mind how folks like Matthias are coming up with new and creative ways to use their machines in 2021. Just when you thought you have seen everything, you realize that you haven't. -- AmigaBill

What can I say... this is a breakthrough in the demo scene. Matthias, you've gained my deep respect. Only nerds would know...

Genuinely one of the most incredible things I've ever seen. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how you figured this out. I hope we can see even more like this in the future, perhaps on a 1581!

Just give this dude all the awards. This is the coolest thing I've seen in 20 years.

Moonshot achieved! Mad respect. I confess that a dormant neurological path was expecting a pixelated ,b&w, picture of Samantha Fox to appear under the parallax.

I feel strong compassion for the 1541 stepper motor! 😂 Great work! 👍🏻

Best hack ever! That´s the pure essence of demoscene :)

Perfect example of out of the box thinking. We need more people like this!

@a-lien

Жыл бұрын

the thinking was entirely inside the box. just not the one we expected

A work of genius, the effects are so clear and the music is awesome. State of the art.

I'll be honest: for just a bit, I was trying to decide if this was real, or something faked up to look insanely cool. After reading the blog, yep, it's real. I honestly had never thought of leveraging the processor in the floppy in such an insane way. Well done!

In this world, a C64 asks his 1541 for a file, elaborates it and projects it on his monitor. In another world, a 1541, after receiving the LOAD from a C64, loads a driver file from itself, processes itself and takes possession of the C64 monitor. Welcome to Odyssey 2001 where everything can became reality.

This is amazing, wow! I remember a demo back in the day that would let the 1541 play a song, with the stepper motor doing the work too. This certainly is next level though, with both video and audio. On the older 1541 model the sound would be softer and with bit more bass.

That is one serious "Racing the beam" example. Props!

@Wingnut353

2 жыл бұрын

Indeed, as an aside, 48k of ram could be installed in a non stock 1541.

Absolutely incredible work, easily the best wild platform demo of the last 5 years!

Das ist echt abgefahren! Kann mich selbst noch an die "Floppy" Musik auf meinem eigenen C=64 erinnern. Aber DAS ist wirklich next Level ... ca 36 Jahre später. Wow

This is next level even for the demoscene. Here's hoping someone can come up with a device to connect the two cables non-destructively.

@pgiblox

2 жыл бұрын

Oh course that’s simple. I bet he used a similar adapter to develop the demo. Cutting the wires is all theatrics

@politesociety

2 жыл бұрын

It's the most badass flex I've ever seen.

Such a great C64 demo... without the C64. Haha. Brilliant!

The idea is awesome, the live presentation is great, and technique of streaming the pixels from the drive is just ace - as is are the pre-recorded screens. Hats off, and congrats for the already safe Meteoriks Award :-)

This might be the best demo of all time! Totally unexpected awesomeness!!! Mind blown!!!

"No (not many) floppy drives were harmed during the making of this prod."

@MatthiasKramm

2 жыл бұрын

I only went through three. I still maintain that they died of natural causes.

@NULUSIOS

2 жыл бұрын

@@MatthiasKramm would be interesting to know what killed them.

@MatthiasKramm

2 жыл бұрын

@@NULUSIOS One had a dead 6522. Probably because of a bad power adapter.

@michiellombaers3198

2 жыл бұрын

But many cables were ... Those poor cables ...

@NULUSIOS

2 жыл бұрын

@@michiellombaers3198 they are just cables - probably user-made anyway

After watching this, my brain was the C64 in this setup.

WOW. I was JUST talking about this with a friend as a possibility two weeks ago. You did all the hard work! GREAT JOB

It hurt me a bit to see those cables being chopped up and spliced together, but that was amazing!

Wow, this is truly impressive! You get as much sound out of that floppy drive as others are getting out of the SID chip. Incredible achievement.

This makes me unreasonably happy. Amazing work!

How did I miss this last year?!!

0:37 I had a stroke when you started cutting that cable, I hope it's not an original one. Aside from that the demo is awesome 🤯

@commodork

2 жыл бұрын

Judging by the wires' size, looks like a modern reproduction.

@Bakamoichigei

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, looks like a modern repro. Vintage cables would've been much thicker, and the plugs were a little different. Plus I imagine the thick-ass PVC insulation would be much harder to cut through after ~35 years.

@FalconFour

2 жыл бұрын

I felt physically ill when I saw that knife going for that cable. BUILD AN ADAPTER, MY DUDE. DIN plugs aren't uncommon! Oh god, oh god why, why... :o

Oh my God....this makes me speechless....so creative....Großartig! ❤❤❤

Most hardcore C64 demo ever.

Incredible. This is the demoscene distilled down into its pure essence.

1541 GodMode, really nice work!

Die Sorte Mensch, die mit einem Kaugummipapier und einer Briefklammer einen Notstromgenerator repariert. Genial!

30 year long follower here, since we met in Munich. Acces Denied, Radio Napalm. Wow. Keep it up, you're a legend already!

My first computer was a C64 with a 1541 disk drive (though it didn't look nearly as sleek and modern as the one shown here). Lots and lots of good memories. This demo is spectacular in its own right, but for me it has the added benefit of evoking some nostalgia. Well done.

best c64 demo without a c64.

The weird thing: some of the FX are actually neat. I mean: not just neat by "we do this on the floppy" standards, but neat-neat.

Outstanding. Exceptional. Sick. Thank you for making and sharing this.

You sir, have genuinely amazed me.

Reflex is back! The legends! The chosen platform was a bit unexpected though :D

I know almost nothing about the C64, but I already knew that the floppy drive is kind of like its own computer. But cutting up a serial cable to get a video signal is insane!

Kudos Matthias - this is the most amazing wild demo I've seen, you're a real whizz. Fantastic :-) in every way

Awesome great job. Very suffisticated music for just a floppy motor. And very nice effects. I implemented video signal on a microcontroller so i know what it takes. Crazy you managed to do it ob a 1541 !!

@dpac0

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder how long it can be played before it kills the drive

Just mind boggling demo! Amazing to see how creatively driving demo creations to a new level and probably a new category! Will there soon be a "Peripherals demos" in every compo? Hat off for Refex!

So good, congratulations for this masterpiece

I love such stuff. Absolutely amazing!

This is outstanding

Wow! Thats amazing! I had no idea the 1541 could do any of that! Many congratulations on a great demo!

Just amazing . It is the demo of 2021

Look, Mum! No Computer! Pure loveliness. Hope it won't cause premature damage to the 1541.

@1337Shockwav3

10 күн бұрын

Well, this pretty much shows how the 1541 *is* a full blown computer.

Wow! Just Wow! It's running only on the 1541. Fantastic work.

Paweł Zadrożniak with the Floppotron: "I have created the most sophisticated floppy-drive music machine/display in the world!" Matthias from here: "Hold my joystick!"

Are you doing freaking arpeggios with the floppy drive?! HOW?!?! Simply amazing! This reminds me of LFT's microcontroller demos.

Stunning. Just stunning. Thank you, Matthias, you supreme badass.

Crazy cool ... and what a return to the scene :) Can't wait to see more from you guys.

One of my viewer mentioned this video - I was comparing a C64 drive to the Apple 2 drive, to highlight how simple the Apple 2's drives were. This is just amazing!

my cat fell asleep to the floppy drive music and flashy graphics

Just incredible. Awesomeness is in a single/simple floppy drive device !! That rocks !

For a good two minutes I forgot the sound is coming from the drive’s stepper motor. Dang man! This was amazing!

Unfassbar. Das hat fr-08: .the .product von Platz 1 meiner persönlichen Top 10 verdrängt. Hochachtung und Glückwunsch!

Still can't belive i got to meet you in person. Thanks for putting up with me at X!

This is a totally insane idea, I'm out of words this is incredible:D

Just wait for a double sided floppy! Excellent work!

Incredible! The video definitely deserves a more descriptive title.

thats badass and what a beautiful demo to showcase it

It's a crazy work. May the people think about the thing between the lines.

Never know something like this was even possible omg that's amazing!

Nothing else but mindblowing.... This is so amazing!

You, sir, broke down some serious boundary!

Mind completely, utterly blown.

genre defining

OMG that's amazing !! I've been waiting for this for a long time :D Hurrah !!

Sickest I've ever seen. 10 out of 10 floppydrives.

You are a master of this hardware. wow.

Mind-blowing! Absolutely thrilled to see this, thanks for sharing it! Amazing, really... 👍

The question "But how?" doesn't leave my mind. Brilliant!

@IstvanNagy86

2 жыл бұрын

The 1541 basically has an another C64 inside computing power wise. And fastloaders already implemented custom signaling with the IEC port. It's just, this demo uses it to modulate composite video. I'm not saying this doesn't blow my mind still, it's just I know it's technically makes sense. It's still extremely impressive, especially that the 1541 has nowhere near as many RAM as the C64. Also besides encoding the video, it also does music with the stepper motor. Insane.

@JamesNeave1978

2 жыл бұрын

@@IstvanNagy86 That's the one bit I still don't get, the music. Sure it mostly sounds like a modulated stepper motor, except those super high pitched arpeggios. Those don't sounds like a stepper at all

@ulrichkalber9039

2 жыл бұрын

@@JamesNeave1978 I think there must be Two motors inside that floppy, one turns the floppy, one moves the head. possibly the turning motor makes that sounds?

That is incredible! Can't help but feel for those poor devices though. A connector is needed for this :)

I believe that you are the first person to take advantage of all the hardware resources included in a Drive! Nice Demo

@toweri_li

2 жыл бұрын

No, he is not.

@daschefer

2 жыл бұрын

@@toweri_li Good to Know. Do you have the demo link that uses this technique before?

@toweri_li

2 жыл бұрын

@@daschefer Hehe.. Sorry, no link. There was no public Internet at that time. It is only saved on a 5 1/4" floppy disk... (Here's to hoping it is still readable!) :) You may want to check out this video: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fKh3z8yica3Hc7Q.html He / the program does not state, whether you need to have C=64 connected and running - but the program "Head Alignment" specifically does not need the computer itself. Upon running, the program is uploaded onto the 1541 disk drive RAM and then run by its CPU alone. You can switch off the computer - just like on this video.

Wow, that is some next-level stuff, brilliant!

A nice piece of art! Very clever out of (bread) box thinking!

It's a shame this is going viral and you are not getting the credit deserved.

this is unbelievable. mind blowing.

Very creative and technically excellent, except cutting the wires on a glass table ;) The Bitshifters did sort of the opposite when they connected the video out to the floppy write head to experiment with writing different bit patterns that were too fast for the BBC Micro's 6502!

0:37 When you started cutting into the cable, I involuntarily screamed at my screen... Other than that, this was the coolest hack I have seen in a long time!

Respekt! Da muss man aber viel von der Hardware verstehen. Und da bin ich schon stolz drauf, mein W&T Interface wieder zum Laufen zu bekommen ;-)

This is the most hardcore sh!t ive ever seen! (i had a C64+1541II combo back in 1988-1991 and now i have it again, just not the II)

this is possibly the most amazing thing I have ever seen!

Hat is off! Absolutly amazing!