Frank Drake - Why Aren't Aliens Already Here?
It seems absurd in a universe with 100 billion galaxies, each with billions of stars and planets, that we are the only intelligent life. So where are all the others? This is the famous 'Fermi Paradox,' asked by Nobel Laureate Enrico Fermi. By any reasonable calculation, we should see evidence of other civilizations all over the universe, but we see nothing.
It is with deep sadness that we at Closer To Truth, along with our viewers, acknowledge the death of Frank Drake on September 2, 2022 at the age of 92. More importantly, we celebrate his life and seminal contributions to how we think about the universe, the possibility (to Frank, the high likelihood) that extraterrestrial intelligences populate the universe. He made significant contributions to radio studies of the planets and was one of the founding pioneers of the search for extraterrestrial intelligences; he was one of the first trustees of the SETI Institute. His eponymous “Drake Equation” set the standard for estimating probabilities of extraterrestrial intelligences.
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RIP Mr. Drake. Your messages live on in the cosmos, and we will find a way to continue your dreams of listening to the entire sky for messages from our galactic neighbors.
@Globovoyeur
Жыл бұрын
He died this very day. Farewell to a SETI pioneer.
Drake should start a crowdfunding campaign. His goal is achievable and valuable anyway.
@iPondR
Жыл бұрын
I could not agree more... it's called SETI by the way... and well done for suggesting it, you're one of the few...
@racookster
Жыл бұрын
He won't be doing it now. He died two days ago as of this posting. RIP, Frank. At any rate, we're spending more on SETI now than we were at the time of this interview, but the budget still isn't adequate.
@arcturiansangels123
Жыл бұрын
Forget SETI if your really interested then check out ECETI by James Gilliand
Although someone else must have remembered this quote, "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence."
@yourlogicalnightmare1014
Жыл бұрын
Same quote applies to god. People simply look in the wrong place... bibe holes are not where god is found.
@HigherPlanes
Жыл бұрын
@@yourlogicalnightmare1014 It's possible that God and Alien are two sides of the same coin, and we were visited long long ago and that's how religion myth got started.
@yourlogicalnightmare1014
Жыл бұрын
@@HigherPlanes You've never listened to a single NDE'er recount their experience have ya. 1. The universe and everything in it are an appearance in mind. 2. That mind encompasses infinitely more than the universe. 3. Nothing inside the universe could have created the universe, hence aliens are not god in the way you mean it. 4. God is an intermediate level being which encompasses all of awareness among all beings. 5. Gods nature is mind. It has being, awareness, consciousness, will/intention, knowing, love. God can't experience hatred, jealousy, fear, etc at its level of existence. It fractionated its awareness into infinite perspectives upon itself to experience what can actualized from the possibility space. It is through us (itself) that god knows negative emotions. It is through the universe that god knows time and causation. There are thousands more details, but I didn't intend to get into it.
@HigherPlanes
Жыл бұрын
@@yourlogicalnightmare1014 I've read similar thoughts and ideas in the Gita.
@mohhannif1683
Жыл бұрын
Yes I did: how so true
Several including Hawking have voiced that it is best for mankind to go unnoticed.. there could be civilizations billions of years old and more advanced than we are... and perhaps they got to that level being unnoticeable
@r.davidsen
Жыл бұрын
I'd rather die by the "hands" of an alien, knowing there are aliens out there, than die by the actions of an inconsiderable human.
@paulfogarty7724
Жыл бұрын
I've watched a number of these videos featuring these experts. They always resort to the same old " who do we think we are " .or " we are not important ".. or " we are not special " ..self kicking attitude. The real reason is that space is big - life is rare.
@earth7268
Жыл бұрын
Check out these channels thoroughly 1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ... 2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions. 3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions.. I'll refer more once you've seen all these.. I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day.
@Globovoyeur
Жыл бұрын
This is called The Dark Forest Theory. It can be thought of as an outgrowth of the Precautionary Principle, in which any intelligent society which detects another in space must destroy it if it can in order to eliminate the possibility of being destroyed itself. This is too grim an outlook for me. But I do think we should not be sending messages to try and get ourselves noticed at this time.
@Neceros
Жыл бұрын
highly unlikely
Rest in Peace Frank Drake when we find Alien Intelligence we will tell them about the wonderful work you did 💘
"I would do it [study UFOs], but before agreeing to do it, we must insist upon full access to discs recovered. For instance, in the L.A. case, the Army grabbed it and would not let us have it for cursory examination." J. Edgar Hoover-Director of FBI The security guard called and said, “Sir, there’s a glowing red object hovering right outside the front gate. I’ve got all the men out here with their weapons drawn.” We lost between 16-18 ICBMs (nuclear tipped Inter Continental Ballistic Missiles) at the same time UFOs were in the area… (A high-ranking Air Force officer) said, “Stop the investigation; do no more on this and do not write a final report. I heard that many of the guards that reported the incident were sent off to Vietnam." Captain Robert Salas, USAF, during a videotaped interview for the Disclosure program. "A few insiders know the truth...and are studying the bodies that have been discovered." -Dr. Edgar Mitchell Apollo 14..the 6th NASA employee to walk on the Moon. "Maximum security exists concerning the subject of UFOs.” CIA Director, Allen Dulles, 1955. "It's still classified above Top Secret." - Senator Barry Goldwater, 1975 “Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960. “We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false” -William Casey, CIA director, 1981 “Yes, there have been ET visitations. There have been crashed craft. There have been material and bodies recovered. There has been a certain amount of reverse engineering that has allowed some of these craft, or some components, to be duplicated. And there is some group of people that may or may not be associated with the government at this point that have this knowledge. They have been attempting to conceal this knowledge. People in high level government have very little, if any, valid information about this. It has been the subject of disinformation in order to deflect attention and create confusion so the truth doesn’t come out. ” ― Edgar D. Mitchell, The Way of the Explorer: An Apollo Astronaut's Journey Through the Material and Mystical World AFFIDAVIT (1) My name is Thomas Jefferson Dubose (2) My address is: XXXXXXXXXX (3) I retired from the U.S. Air force in 1959 with the rank of Brigadier General. (4) In July 1947, I was stationed at Fort Worth Army Air Field [later Carswell Air Force Base] in Fort Worth, Texas. I served as Chief of Staff to Major General Roger Ramey, Commander, Eighth Air Force. I had the rank of Colonel. (5) In early July, I received a phone call from Maj. Gen. Clements McMullen, Deputy Commander, Strategic Air Command. He asked what we knew about the object which had been recovered outside Roswell, New Mexico, as reported in the press. I called Col. William Blanchard, Commander of the Roswell Army Air Field, and directed him to send the material in a sealed container to me at Fort Worth. I so informed Maj. Gen. McMullen. (6) After the plane from Roswell arrived with the material, I asked the Base Commander, Col. Al Clark, to take possession of the material and to personally transport it in a B-26 to Maj. Gen. McMullen in Washington, D.C. I notified Maj. Gen. McMullen, and he told me he would send the material by personal courier on his plane to Benjamin Chidlaw, Commanding General of the Air Material Command at Wright Field [later Wright Patterson AFB]. The entire operation was conducted under the strictest secrecy. (7) The material shown in the photographs taken in Maj. Gen. Ramey’s office was a weather balloon. The weather balloon explanation for the material was a cover story to divert the attention of the press. (8) I have not been paid or given anything of value to make this statement, which is the truth to the best of my recollection. Signed: T. J. Dubose Date: 9/16/91 Signature witnessed by: Linda R. Split Notary Public, State of Florida "There exists a shadowy government with its own Air Force, its own Navy, its own fundraising mechanism, and the ability to pursue its own ideas of national interest, free from all checks and balances, and free from the law itself. “ - Daniel Inouye Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition (Iran-Contra hearings) (1987) REMOTE VIEWING (a technique developed by our CIA and Stanford Research Institute) PER FARSIGHT INSTITUTE data suggests...Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven... AND..As the Quran has it, Prophet Muhammad took a night trip to heaven aboard a trusty winged pony-horse-mule-ish creature called Buraq... Many other topics begin to make sense.. It has been said that after President Carter was finally briefed on the et reality, he was deeply upset. For several weeks.. MEANINGFUL congressional hearings, ala the Watergate hearings, including aerospace/defense contractors and others such as Bob Lazar, Andrew Basiago and Vice Admiral Thomas R. Wilson must be held to address a vital issue that transcends politics and we will never properly advance until it happens: The 75+yr ongoing-constitutionally illegal, EXTRATERRESTRIAL and associated TIME TRAVEL cover-ups. It would also be nice to know what the results of the many years/projects involving the back-engineering of recovered "vehicles" are. Who has been footing the bill for that? How can we truly believe anything our elected officials say? The dog n pony shows must cease
@ValsReview
Жыл бұрын
Interesting
@mjjumps
Жыл бұрын
Here you are again! I see this comment everywhere I go……. I also would love to see Lazar, Admiral Wilson get called to testify. Lazar is the real deal. They should also call the heads of these Special Access Programs to the stand as well as the people that threatened Admiral Wilson like Noel Longuemare Jr.
Frank Drake has passed away few hours ago! RIP!!
Saw a ship last weekend 8 of us no more than 400 yards away. Rectangle evenly lite about 1/4 block long. Slow as hell no noise, no wake or exhaust then faded away front to back lasted about 3 minutes
The dark forrest logic seems like a perfect explanation as to why no one has showed up yet. Making your presence known in the universe could potentially spell disaster for your entire species and planet. That's why its quiet
@ernestgrouns8710
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I've always liked that proposition. I also think its entirely possible that we don't even know about each other. We certainly know of no other civilizations, and it's possible that the same is true for life elsewhere.
@earth7268
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Check out these channels thoroughly 1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ... 2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions. 3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions.. I'll refer more once you've seen all these.. I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day.
@Cat_Woods
Жыл бұрын
Maybe they decoded our old TV programs and decided we weren't worth getting to know. 🙂
@darklight9282
Жыл бұрын
Its kinda funny how all humans follow other human entities as gods, the human race is a toxic bacterial problem in the universe. sorry but humans are all lies, fakes claiming god and other useless fakes. 80 percent lies from humans and 20 percent -Truth, left over.
@scotth6814
Жыл бұрын
When you don't know what's in the dark forest, it's safer to listen than to shout out into the darkness.
Until we have learned to respect, protect and give space to all life on our own planet, I don’t think we should rush to find extra-terrestrial life. Hoping for an alien civilization to edify us is like praying to God to help us. We must save ourselves.
@earth7268
Жыл бұрын
Check out these channels thoroughly 1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ... 2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions. 3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions.. I'll refer more once you've seen all these.. I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day...
@corneliuscornia4436
Жыл бұрын
Spot on.👍
@michaeldrasic7587
Жыл бұрын
Don't worry about "other" E.T.'s visiting earth. WE are the original E.T.'s! Every "living thing" on this planet came from space. The earth is made of rock, dust and whatever accumulated from space to make earth a livable planet. From that came all sorts of materials that comprise this planet even gold came here from outer space. We as "human beings" have only been here for such a short amount of time! Remember, the earth is over three and a half billion years old! So many changes have happened in all that time. Don't also try about what "could" or "might" be out there, worry about what IS happening here, now!
@arcturiansangels123
Жыл бұрын
The device your messaging me on is a direct result of reverse-engineered technology from retrieved crashed UFO from Area 51! So before you preach learn about where this technology came from ? Although I do agree with your sentiments , however we are clearly unable to look after ourselves when we are being manipulated by several different ET races.
Most matter of fact perspective. Loved it, even if it's not the answer we want to hear!
@earth7268
Жыл бұрын
Check out these channels thoroughly 1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ... 2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions. 3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions.. I'll refer more once you've seen all these.. I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day.
Could it be possibe that an example of alien life could be some kind of consciousness thats evolved to not need a visible/physical body? Or maybe like a cloud like the one from futurama or star trek? If this were the case than we would need to change how we look for life. And who knows, maybe someone has already discovered this and is interacting with them already. I personally think that there could very well possibly be ‘beings’ that vibrate at a different rate than us.
@ValsReview
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing...and we measure life as we know it...so would our instruments be able to recognize a sentient being or maybe as you said vibrating at a different rate to where we are not able to see it
@greenman8
Жыл бұрын
Even if our consciousness was compatible with an Alien, to the point, that we could find a common way to communicate, the timing of our Brains is tuned to the neighborhood of, their home planets position in the Galaxy/Universe. (our brains and their brains are working like a 33rpm record compared to a 45rpm record, more than tone and pitch is changed though) I wonder if advanced Aliens have a similar barrier to space travel, and their visiting us is more of a compromise to actually being here. Imagine UFOs being an Illusion, Like a cross between Virtual Reality with Remote observation. A futuristic Duck Blind to observe Humans/Earth, and moments of failure to 'hide' is when we people see their efforts. We only see 'Flying Saucers', or 'Tic-Tacs', when their ability to hide is down. (or when it is inefficient to hide.) The ability to have craft break rules of physics, Like transferring from air travel to sub marine travel without a splash down, or to hover motionless in the presence of chaotic weather. Weird feats like this suggest that they are not affected by atmosphere because they are not completely there.
@carefulcarpenter
Жыл бұрын
It is highly possible that I made contact. I have been writing on the Internet, creative thoughts and wisdom. I facilitated what I called "cyberplays" back in 2001 -2004. These were inteactive threads that allowed other users to tap into their creative source. What is that source/connection/contact that allows us to write something we have absolutely no way to know beforehand? I saved copies. I still post original thoughts. People seem to prefer to be indoctrinated by uncreative cultural icons. 😁 How would we recognize contact?
@KingCharles3000
Жыл бұрын
@@carefulcarpenter reminds me of something I read in a book about Chinese spirituality, that a person can achieve a higher state where they can leave their body and become like the gods who influence people through great thoughts and inspiration.
@carefulcarpenter
Жыл бұрын
@@KingCharles3000 I began having spiritual experiences as a kid. It took me many decades before I understood a language that described experiences that others claimed to have. After 2 decades of writing I come to the conclusion that most people are living a delusionary reality. They lack a sincere curiosity for the experiences of others--- yet use words that give themselves influence over lesser aware individuals--- the Priest/Priestess complex. Contact is direct. There is no "authority" that can act as an intermediator between what is labeled ET and what we can perceive directly. Contact is not "out there in the cosmos aboard space ships." We have been mislead. 😁😨 My 71 years of documented evidence reveals another reality. Maybe I am the only one? The mathematics does not lie. It began at my conception time/date. It is referenced by my birth certificate number, and my Social Security Number, and my Selective Service Number. Most interestingly, we bought a home 25 years ago that coincidentally reveals the coincidence of my exact birth time and date. The sequence of addresses over my lifetime is amazing. Above the home where I lived from age 7 to age 18--- on a g.map--- are the letters "et". 😨 The evidence is beyond coincidental at this point. Some say that a lifetime of research proves a theory.
THEY ARE! It’s so frustrating that the PENTAGON can announce the ET presence (or at least what we assume are ET’s since the technology is not of human origin). UFO’s or UAP’s have been documented since the 50’s and arguably much earlier than that. Now the government openly states that we have objects flying with impunity over restricted airspace, performing maneuvers that defy the laws of physics as we currently understand them. And yet, for some reason, we act as if they are not here. THEY ARE.
@msalerni8977
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Guys like Drake don't even address the fact that they are already here. Look how much we have learned in just the past 100 years about the universe. Aliens could be thousands or millions of years ahead of us. Would we understand anything they did? That they are here is a fact. Too many credible examples exist. They can even turn on and off out nuclear warheads. How they got here, where are they from and how do they operate we might not understand for another 100,000 year. So the only thing we have is that we see them and see what they do. But we can't understand why!
Hypothesizing life on other worlds is largely irrelevant and a waste of time. Such life has never and will never have any interest in our planet regardless of the science fiction we can make up. Assuming such life even exists. We can't and must not expect anyone or anything to come along and "fix" us, that's our job.
@nicksharma8238
Жыл бұрын
well said. I don't an advanced species would be interested in having contact with a civilization who hasn't fixed their problems first, either.
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At the end of the day when statement comes from Carl Sagan that doesn't surprise me at all . Frank Drake well sums up public awareness is very important that's all we need Thankyou close to truth
Imagine our civilization 10,000 years from now and how easy it would be to hide ourselves from a civilization like ours today. It's pretty arrogant for human beings to assume that have the technology and therefor the capacity to detect a highly advanced civilization. All of our answers to this question are based on our current understanding of the universe around us which is minimal at best. Trying to answer this question as a human being in year 2022 is like asking an insect to solve a complicated calculus question .
Arthur C Clarke quote “Two possibilities exist: either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.”
@dakotadustin3556
Жыл бұрын
100% chance to be terrified. I like it.
@yourlogicalnightmare1014
Жыл бұрын
3rd possibility... some id eee ot will post that tired dumb cliche on every video
@earth7268
Жыл бұрын
Check out these channels thoroughly 1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ... 2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions. 3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions.. I'll refer more once you've seen all these.. I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day....
Very insightful interview.
@zakmartin
Жыл бұрын
In what way? Neither of them knows any more than the average man in the street (or, indeed woman in the street).
@paulusbrent9987
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@@zakmartin He gave insight in the minds of those involved in the SETI project. They do not think like the average man (where are they?) but in ""what telescope should we build?"
@earth7268
Жыл бұрын
Check out these channels thoroughly 1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ... 2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions. 3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions.. I'll refer more once you've seen all these.. I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day...
We need to do this.
Life on other planets oceans seriously fascinate me way more than thinking about possible land based lifeforms.
Problem is that we're too far away from 99.999% of the stars in our galaxy--never mind other galaxies.
@rockpadstudios
Жыл бұрын
Even if aliens were smarter than us - they would have to be really smart to travel the vast distances. Earths RF bubble is what 200 light years, this is a tiny bubble. To detect even these signals you would need a disk miles wide. It is amazing how huge a galaxy is much less the universe.
@stellarwind1946
Жыл бұрын
Wormholes are the only way to do it
@zakmartin
Жыл бұрын
That's not the problem at all. The problem is that these scientists are preoccupied with space and distance.
@JCL1023
Жыл бұрын
Too far is relative to how fast you can travel. Probably what people who only could walk or ride a horse said a few hundred years ago..
@zakmartin
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@@JCL1023 We can only conceptualize and predict the future on the basis of what we already know, and what we believe to be possible. If you asked an ancient Egyptian to imagine what kind of transport would exist in two or three thousand years, he'd probably describe a chariot with twenty wheels, pulled by a hundred horses. If you told him that in the future people would be able to travel anywhere in the world in flying machines, he'd think you were crazy, or possessed by a devil. Humans are extraordinarily bad at predicting the future (and I say this as someone whose business it is to predict the future), and that's what you're doing when you try to imagine the motives and the technologies of aliens. To give just one example, space and distance will become irrelevant with the advent of teleportation technology. And the physical universe itself will become irrelevant when we evolve to become digital entities living in a computerized cloud.
Watched this again after hearing about his death. Rip Frank Drake.
I think they are here (USS Nimitz incident), and they can transgress our visible light wavelengths, but on occasion slip up and become visible. A cloaking mechanism would be quite simple relative to the sophistication in technology used on any craft to bend spacetime and travel here to begin with…
@d.r.tweedstweeddale9038
Жыл бұрын
You're funny. Not funny "ha-ha" but funny in your head, as in "off your rocker".
@Cardioid2035
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@@d.r.tweedstweeddale9038 New ideas are always deemed stupid and crazy until sometimes they end up being true. The human brain is an interface that gathers and filters electromagnetic information. It ‘interprets’ light refraction as colour, and pressure waves as sound. In reality both phenomena don’t actually exist as we perceive them, the brain simply interprets those wavelengths as an end product phenomena in our heads. Therefore, reality as we experience it is an ‘interpretation’ of electromagnetic wavelengths, and not absolute full ‘objective’ reality. The point I’m wanting to make is how can you be confident in your understanding of reality when you can not actually perceive infallible objective reality yourself? I believe the USS Nimitz tic-tac craft was able to manipulate the electromagnetic spectrum in ways we’ve yet to fully understand (or fully disclose). I went as far as to say these craft seem to bend the spacetime around them, as well as hide in plain sight above, below or around our visible light wavelength. The videos we have are e occasions they appear in our visible range. I believe whatever the USS Nimitz UAP phenomena was had a consciousness, purpose, and knew how to navigate around our electromagnetic perception limitations. The behaviour of these tic tac objects are consistent in each case, looking like ‘balls of light’ and ‘moving erratically defying the laws of physics’. So given all the blatant anomalies out there on this subject, who are you to say another distant civilization didn’t figure out how to manipulate the electromagnetic spectrum and bend spacetime to their advantage to get here?
@bunniburtuqoli6987
Жыл бұрын
@@Cardioid2035 Not necessarily aliens. More complicated than that.😂
@abelincoln8885
Жыл бұрын
The Function, Intelligence & Mind Categories ... prove God created Man in His image with a body & soul ... to become His Children. There are no Aliens out there. The only known Intelligence are: 1. God 2. Angels/ Demons 3. Man. Remember that if you believe in Aliens ... then you do not believe in the God, Creation and Jesus being sent to save you soul. Who would want to Man to believe in Aliens?
@Cardioid2035
Жыл бұрын
@@abelincoln8885 Re-read the book of Ezekiel thoroughly
👍🚀Endlessly, endlessly fascinating subject, and this time with Mr. Drake himself. Great video. Thanks!
@earth7268
Жыл бұрын
Check out these channels thoroughly 1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ... 2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions. 3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions.. I'll refer more once you've seen all these.. I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day.
@PilatesGuy1
Жыл бұрын
@@earth7268 I will do that - thanks very much for the tips.
Something to consider is that EVERYTHING had to be just right for life to begin on Earth. Not just the Earth itself - but the whole Solar System had to be set up just right for life to flourish on THIS planet. Change anything - even the tilt of the Earth ( which was caused by a one - off collision ) and things might be different. Bearing all this in mind, you can begin to appriciate how rare life actually is - despite the size of the Universe.
@earth7268
Жыл бұрын
Check out these channels thoroughly 1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ... 2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions. 3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions.. I'll refer more once you've seen all these.. I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day.
@rubenchoychoo8551
Жыл бұрын
hope one day the truth will be set free...
@michaeldrasic7587
Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking along those same ideas!
If there is life on earth, regardless of how common or rare life is, there must be some life somewhere in the universe.
@diegoromeromora1725
Жыл бұрын
Period. Greetings from Costa Rica!
@TomTimeTraveler
Жыл бұрын
Of course! Life is "ubiquitous" to use a fancy term.
@r.davidsen
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Probability alone predict there is life elsewhere. The probability that each of us were born is even more staggering, which happens every day. The odds of you being born is 1 in 400 trillion. The odds of only Earth hosting life in the visible universe is "merely" 1 in 60 billion.
@earth7268
Жыл бұрын
Check out these channels thoroughly 1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ... 2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions. 3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions.. I'll refer more once you've seen all these.. I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day...
Why does the scientific community want there to be extraterrestrial life in the universe. For what purpose? What are the positives to come from this? We hardly get on with each other much less anything else.
@earth7268
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He left us the very day i watched his interview.. RIP
Maybe I missed some part, but without mentioning the absence of von Neumann probes and the great filter theory, this discussion is quite incomplete.
The assertion that we haven't given enough effort is arbitrary. It assumes a human-like estimation in the first place. Further, given the vast and seemingly infinite expanse of the universe (or what is within plausible detection), we haven't see anything. Nor has any civilization sent an undeniable signal to us. The reasonable position in my mind is that we are unique and alone until proven otherwise.
@yourlogicalnightmare1014
Жыл бұрын
We've cataloged a whole 1 thousand planets out of a trillion trillion. And how exactly are we going to see dolphins and dinosaurs on planets millions of light years away? Your statement reflects a profound lack of comprehension of the scales involved
@joenelson3037
Жыл бұрын
I have to admit that I agree with you. He enjoys in pure speculation of the “signals” that he fails to specify.
@earth7268
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I wish they’ll there funding. It’s something that all of humanity wants to know, are we alone? Or do we have neighbors)). Great interview, thank you!
@earth7268
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Judging by the way we treat each other and the way we treat the planet we live on, I would argue we haven't found "intelligent" life here on Earth, either!
@arcturiansangels123
Жыл бұрын
Linda howe describes the evidence of Human and animal abductions please become concious
That some kind of life form exists in other planets, seems logic to me. Since the history of earth's birth, and the cycles it went through, its evident enough that existence can be possible in other planets too. Which images they emerged to, depends on the right conditions that made it possible. So, we shouldn't expect human like aliens, that's human fantasy, I'd rather be prepared with some kind of species that can survive space, and maybe our atmosphere with no problem. Our biological existence may be unique in the wide cosmos, and we might experience other life forms pretty soon.
@abelincoln8885
Жыл бұрын
Evidence? lol. C'mon. Provide your evidence that nature & natural processes can make, maintain, improve, operate, fine tune .... Functions? A Function ... is simply a System that PROCESSES inputs into outputs with clear purpose, form, "design" & properties which are INFORMATION that every Function possesses to exist & to function. Where is your evidence for your religious beliefs?
@Man_fay_the_Bru
Жыл бұрын
It’s also fantasy to think they’d want to or could travel here…which I doubt, by the time they get here& back they’re planet may not even exist anymore& there’s other problems but distance makes it in feasible….imo
@kittendkat5100
Жыл бұрын
@@abelincoln8885 Get to the point - what is it you are trying to say?
@abelincoln8885
Жыл бұрын
@@kittendkat5100 Get to the point? Everything in the Universe ... is a Function .. with processes, form, properties & purpose. A religion is simply an organized FIRM BELIEF in something (eg Nature & natural processes ) or someone (eg God) responsible for existence/Universe. What or who .... makes Functions? Nature & natural processes .... or .... an intelligence? I can prove God made the Universe. There is no evidence that nature & natural processes made the Universe. C'mon. Provide your evidence. Good luck. lol.
@owencampbell4947
Жыл бұрын
@@abelincoln8885 your conscious mind seem to be stuck in a thought loop. The repeated statement you make from which you are so convinced, is not convincing at all. It only shows a dead end thought with no chance for other concepts and ideas that might come closer to truth.
It absolutely CAN fail. Not detecting a signal is not a conclusive answer that we are alone. Also - because of the speed of light, we can only see the distant past. If life only became possible 1 million years ago (because of some underlying property of the universe that changed at that time) - and it started developing everywhere in the universe simultaneously (at the same rate as us) we still wouldn’t be able to see ANY of it - because the light from their stars (and any radio signals) hasn’t reached us yet. A lot of the stars we see when we look to the sky are already dead and gone - but we’ll continue to see their light for many millennia.
Can you send imagine being alive at a time when communication is made and a dialogue going on, say 1 year to receive every message, that day every year would be the most anticipated event ever
@earth7268
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Since the invention of radio more than a century ago, man has been broadcasting into space in the hope that any listening aliens could learn of our presence. Yet, despite waves travelling a distance of 200 light years in all directions, they still have 118,800 light years to go until the entire Milky Way has heard the word...
@brianb6957
Жыл бұрын
Why would they come to a planet full of apathetic sheep?
@cookieDaXapper
Жыл бұрын
....electromagnetic whispers........
@zakmartin
Жыл бұрын
Maybe they picked up an episode of Oprah and decided they'd give Earth a miss...
@abelincoln8885
Жыл бұрын
The Function & Intelligence Categories prove the Universe & Life are Functions compose entirely of Functions made by a very powerful Intelligence. Universal Functions ... is the Hypothesis that explains Sir Issac Newton's Watchmaker Analogy over 300 years ago and any Machine Analogy that is always used by theists to prove Intelligence Design. The Function Category proves everything is a Function ... and can only be made by an Intelligence due to purpose, form & properties which are INFORMATION that every Function possesses to exist & to function. There are no Aliens. God created the Universe for Man ... for Man to become His Children. Jesus(Son of God) became a human being forever ... to save the body & souls of Believers ... from God's just nature to punish all who sin. God made the Universe ridiculously large ... because He knew Man will develop the sciences to explain natural phenomena. There is absolutely no way anything living composed of matter & energy ... can safely & quickly travel ... to the nearest Star. And God knew it would take 7 x 1000 years .. for the Last Child of God to be procreated by Man. The current Jewish year is 5782. Jesus returns in the year 6 000 to rule for 1000 years. Then Judgement Day for those still living.
@earth7268
Жыл бұрын
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the consecutive amount of geologic, chemo-biologic and astrophysical miracles( randomness) it took for humans to evolve here = we are one in a million or more. I'm betting we burn out or destroy the planet before we detect a single alien blip
@NiteTrain345
Жыл бұрын
Dammit! Who set Civ Earth to difficult mode!
@earth7268
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Listen to me, it's been around 5 days now that I am in contact with my entire army. I saw them as I saw anyone on the street. I can't imagine here in Quebec city they don't acknowledge this. I did say to them to stay celestial home but when I saw them I was so emotional, I love be human. That is why I call it the NEW CHANCE. have a wonderful day
Good stuff
1) Distance 2) Time = We are marooned. Just a spark in a dark abyss.
@NiteTrain345
Жыл бұрын
I'm not marooned, I'm riding through space on a big rock going 1.3m mph.
@TurinTuramber
Жыл бұрын
@@NiteTrain345 You seem to be confusing marooned with the word stationary.
It is a very complex question. First of all, you have to know what to look for. You have to understand completely what constitutes "life". Then you have to be objective enough to consider all possibilities and that some of what you thought was the fact is wrong. Not easy. There is any number of possibilities for life (especially advanced life) to take form in the universe. You see when we look at exoplanets we look at them as we might look for a species similar to us. You know the distance from the star in the so-called "habitable zone". Do we really know what that habitable zone is? I tend to agree with Drake that alien species are not going to advertise themselves to us. Especially if they are more advanced. What would be the purpose? As for concerns that an advanced species may wipe us out, I doubt it. If they are advanced they already know we are here. We are no threat to them and so for whatever reason, they have left us alone. For whatever reason, they have cloaked their existence from us so once again no threat to them. We can't reach them so once again not an issue. We also don't know that an advanced species follows a Type 1, 2, 3, etc advance. Maybe they are content with their own evolution the way it is without expansion? I don't know. I simply paint these scenarios to show humility in the face of the unknown. It is only through this humility that we will at some point make contact.
The distances are simply too large. And maybe we don't want to meet them if they have any resemblance to our destructive ways.
Are there specific ways to look for advanced intelligence, like computer or machine signals?
@User-jr7vf
Жыл бұрын
yes, and that is the most obvious way of looking for intelligent life elsewhere as it can be done from Earth (by listening to signals just as astronomers have been doing for many decades).
J Krishnamurti talking with David Bohm, Ojai,1980. 'The Ending of Time '. And any of his other talks shows that the wrong questions are being asked. It's not ' Where are the Aliens', but ' Where Are We'. Rupert Sheldrake talking with Graham Hancock also explains about the mechanism used to create our daily live, 'The Waking Dream', is the same that creates the Sleeping Dream. I've had a contract with an intelligently controlled disc when I was 14yrs old, and this occurred with two other boys who saw it also. In fact we flashed our cycle lights at it and it altered course to come over to our location and then started to descend. My friends ran but I stayed. Ten years after the contract, I asked for proof if contact was still with me, and I got confirmation which involved me changing jobs. I've also had an experience with a red light on the road, one other friend in attendance, in the 1980s in S W Wales late at night which involved odd time..... I'm going to say manipulation/distortion.... because that's what it seemed to be. And a friend was confronted with the so called 'Men In Black' , who spoke with her and said something that involved an action which I did that connected me with what they said. All this happened many years ago, but even to this day synchronistic events are being recorded. What seems to be happening with our perception is that the physical/material reality is flawed. 'They' are not Extraterrestrial, but are able to exploit our limited view of where and how we exist. I say that the phenomena originates from the ' Sleeping Dream' State, and that's what we need to explore. Of course, to call it a 'Dream', is to do the concept a great disservice. Because It's as 'real' as our daily live view is. Google, ' Ignacio Darnaude, Westwood teleportation 1954'. I have been researching this for many years, and have spoken with Margaret Westwood, an ex police officer, who believed the case to have merit. And once again, as soon as I started to delve into the case, synchronicity 'raised it's head'. I've started watching ' Fringe '. The TV series is worth watching as it reveals many new concepts we can explore. Carlos Castaneda's audio books on KZread are another avenue to become acquainted with. 'I Origins' with Michael Pitt and Brit Marling, about reincarnation, was mentioned on 'Art Bell' talking with Dean Radin. ( Timeline.pt 10810).
Just pray that we are alone in this universe. Cos if there are aliens, who knows? We might be part of the food chain. 🙂🙃🙂
@earth7268
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There’s an implicit assumption that if the the conditions for Life (as we understand it) are present, *Intelligent* Life is inevitable. “The Vital Question” by Nick Lane points out using energy calculations and arguments, that while (Carbon based) bacterial life should evolve relatively easily given a certain Goldilocks planetary conditions, multicellular life - required for intelligent creatures - is hardly inevitable. In particular though bacterial life has been around for nearly the whole of Earth’s history, there are no multicellular bacterial life. Only eukaryotic. Lane argues using energy calculations that eukaryotic life - or more broadly cells that have a tendency to come together to build larger structures - should be exceedingly rare and that the evolution of the eukaryotic cell was more or less serendipitous. If his reasoning is right, it means that bacterial like life should be fairly common but multicellular (let alone intelligent) life very rare.
@bb1111116
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Thank you for the information about “The Vital Question” by Nick Lane. Reviews of the book provide interesting insights into the origin of life on earth.
@ronaldmorgan7632
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The fact that we even have a working cell is a miracle unto itself.
@dakotadustin3556
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If we multiply an exceedingly small chance by an exceedingly great number of chances (given the size of the galaxy or universe) what do we get? I honestly think it is remarkable that we haven't found other intelligent life or it hasn't explicitly made known to us its existence. I believe the reasonable conclusion is that we are unique. Although it is only probably in my mind, even if that probability is very large.
@abelincoln8885
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Only an intelligence ... makes, maintains, improves, operates, uses & fine tunes Functions. A Function is a System that processes inputs into outputs with clear purpose, form DESIGN, & properties which are INFORMATION that every function possesses to exist & to function Anything that has clear processes, form, & purpose ... is a Function ... made by an Intelligence. Abiogenesis & Evolution are complete BS. There is no evidence that nature & natural processes can make & operate .... the simplest ever Function 13.7 billion years ago let alone, 4 billion years ago. The Sun, earth, Atmosphere, air, water, life ... have clear processes, form, design & purpose. There are no Alien Life out there. God did create Man in His likeness with a body & soul ... less than 6 000 years ago. Jesus(Son of God ) will return to rule the Earth for 1000 years with 144 000 Jews who died during end times believing in the Christ. Then comes Judgement Day and the Universe & Earth are destroyed and replaced by a new Heaven & Earth. The current Jewish year is ... 5782. We have a 7 day week ... because God knew it would take 7 x 1000 years for the last Child of God to be procreated by Man. 6 x 1000 years Man rules the EArth 1 x 1000 years God rules the Earth. The Torah clearly says the Jews will reject the Messiah and be cursed by God, but will repent their sins and accept the Son of God ...in end times. Jesus is return in the year 6 000 ... and the Jews will finally accept Him as their Messiah in end times. There are no aliens out there. UFO's are either Demons or Man.
@earth7268
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They are here already, but you cannot recognise them....
Stand on a beach and look out. You can't see the fish but you know they are out there. So you need to ask the right questions through the right lens.
We know we are not alone. Just because we haven't found it doesn't mean it's not there. The building blocks are common.
Not here yet? Have you seen the videos that have been released?
Anybody else notice Closer is running mostly reruns as new episodes?
We haven't tried hard enough that really hits me cause I being the same thing my whole life
RIP among the stars, Frank. 💔
Why would you assume that other life forms would live in “cities” with essentially electric lights?
@r.davidsen
Жыл бұрын
Because mastering electricity is one of the easiest things an advanced civilization can learn. Also, it is a sure sign of life and intelligence, as well as being relatively "easy" to detect. It isn't assumed that aliens live in cities, have civilizations at all, or that they have city lights. With that said, such a thing would be "easy" to detect. He was just using an example which it is easy to understand. The more advanced technology a civilization has, the harder it is to hide yourself. For example, a civilization that can build a Dyson sphere around a planet or a star would be one of the easiest things to detect, and we could do it right now. There are even candidates for such objects. There are stars whose light is obscured by objects larger than planets that orbit said stars closer than a planet would do. Those stars are the very first objects I would point the James Webb telescope in.
@KingCharles3000
Жыл бұрын
True, maybe they live like the aliens in Avatar
@earth7268
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If intelligent extraterrestrial entities are real, then it's more probable that they have already been here a long time ago.
How about using that wealth of knowledge to help those on earth first!!!!!
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I would like a bit more if Dr. Lawrence and Frank took 5 minutes on his equation 🤔 Edit: TOOK not take
@zakmartin
Жыл бұрын
When you edited your comment, why didn't you just change "take" to "took"?
@amateurrandomdude5870
Жыл бұрын
@@zakmartin otherwise the reader wouldn't know what i edited. That is bad because if someone gives a like needs to know the original ideia.. or i could just have lots of likes and then change all the words completely. Do you think that's correct?
Most likely there's one advanced intelligent species in each galaxy on average but many planets filled with simple life forms like fungi.
@NiteTrain345
Жыл бұрын
The Imperium!
@earth7268
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While I'm fairly certain we are not alone in the universe I'm almost certain that they are not here.
@PUNKMYVIDEO
Жыл бұрын
They are interdimensional.. they are demons,and they are already here. I've seen them.
@ottodetroit
Жыл бұрын
and if they are they sure are subtle.
@randomgrinn
Жыл бұрын
Would you announce your arrival to an ant hill? Why would you bother?
@rayraycthree5784
Жыл бұрын
@@randomgrinn If we are the ants, they are pretty careful about where they step
@brianb6957
Жыл бұрын
Me thinks they were hear and then punched out.
I'm pretty sure that aliens are traveling AWAY from the Earth.
"If life is so easy, someone from somewhere must have come calling by now" Well...Fermi paradox was just a note. The thing , why people took this note as ABSOLUTE and created SEALED MINDS...niah....Watch and Explore the FOREST FIRST! Then, go to every and each one of the Trees, to collect the Fruits! They are HERE!, they are more advanced, they can destroy this species of Humanity whenever they want! But...benevolence and malevolence ..the fight of the Light and the Dark of Consciousness!!!
They are here, and we are their offspring.
@OfficialGOD
Жыл бұрын
Bingo
Rest In Peace Drake, you will live forever 😭
There's no doubt we're being visited, there is no doubt. 'They' are definitely here. Why they're here, where they're from, you can only speculate. - Mantis - 'The Arrival'
The title triggered me. Who says they aren't already here?
Very interesting discussion. I question the use of “intelligent life”. Is an ant intelligent? Is a sequoia tree intelligent?Is some alien species that has evolved for a billion years beyond humans going to question whether or not we are intelligent?
A radio transmitter's E&M signal size is reduced to the noise margin traveling 2-4 light years. So the question is; detect what?
@earth7268
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With how easy it is to just take the audio, throw it into audacity, and remove the noise. All for free. You would think people would do it
They are here. Always have been
@blarglemantheskeptic
Жыл бұрын
No I'm not!
Rest in peace Mr Drake. Let's find them now!
Why?
Is conception a supernatural event?
If there is “alien life” elsewhere, why do we assume that they are advanced in any aspect? They could be in an equivalent of Earth’s prehistoric eras or earlier.
@rayraycthree5784
Жыл бұрын
The life span of an advanced civilization is accounted for in the drake equation
@r.davidsen
Жыл бұрын
Because it is way more difficult to find a civilization that has very little technology at all. So, we do not assume they are advanced. We are only looking for those who are advanced, because looking for the less advanced is considerably more difficult, and also, the less advanced a civilization is, the more likely it is that they will wither away and die sooner.
@kamikazes03
Жыл бұрын
What if they don't speak English and don't accept credit cards? What's the point then?
@mygirldarby
Жыл бұрын
They who? The universe is nearly infinite from our view so there should be endless civilizations out there, more advanced, less advanced, so advanced we would consider their abilities magic.
@KingCharles3000
Жыл бұрын
True, but if the universe is as old as they say, then to me it makes sense that alien life would have advanced, seeing how humans have advanced in such a relatively small timeframe.
It is understandable that we are interested about whether intelligent, communicative life exists out in our or other Solar Systems but I find it odd how we care so much about trying to contact and understand other intelligent life on other planets when we appear to care so little about our own intelligent species and guaranteeing their future survival (Whales, Gorillas, Elephants, etc.) right now, before it’s too late. If we ever did manage to communicate back and forth with another planet’s intelligent life form, they could never travel the massive distances to get here, thank goodness, but they could possibly give us good advice on how to better run things on our own planet, for our long term survival, and explain to us the importance of keeping the diversity of life here on our planet healthy and intact, like our Scientists do all the time, to which most likely, all our leaders, governments, people would promptly ignore.
What if they are all around us now and always have been. They are just really, really small and move really fast.
@loumason6120
Жыл бұрын
Or have decoys everywhere that blend in, like little super high tech birds, city pigeons that could fly anywhere around a big city and collect data etc. We would never know it.. especially before the 1900's. Not saying it's true but it's a damn good idea 👽
@KingCharles3000
Жыл бұрын
Or maybe they operate like ghosts…invisible and with the ability to wak through walls
@earth7268
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They're clearly here already...The Navy has footage and Radar-Data of the "Flying TicTacs" observing their Carrier Group Operations....
Now for about 40 years it's getting Fermi Paradox ultra pro max lol
Would have been nice to actually ask the question in the title! "Why aren't they already here?" is a night and day different question than "Are we alone?" Does trying to colonize the galaxy kill off your species? Does technology have an upper limit? Do all advanced species "go quiet or die?" If so, what does that mean for our future?
@earth7268
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Mightn't there be aliens that such a telescope wouldn't detect? So isn't Kuhn's "it can't fail" is forgetting what Searle told him, "you can't prove a negative."
@mrkingcat2
Жыл бұрын
Of course it's possible to prove a negative
@quinnculver
Жыл бұрын
@@mrkingcat2 Mind providing an example?
How do we know they aren't here? ;)
Because they're already here. Because they've always been here. Because they never left.
@earth7268
Жыл бұрын
True
1. Aliens are a human creation. 2.Aliens can't reach us. 3. Aliens are afraid of us. 4. Aliens follow the Prime Directive.
5 mile wide telescope and we could see ON to other planets out there? That all? Wouldn't it be great if all nations would agree to put military toys down for a year, come together and build one out by the space station
Dark Forest?
I came too the conclusion that aliens are avoiding us on purpose because humans are cringe.
our telescope can only see the beginnings or early stage of the universe, because light travels very slow across the galaxy or universe, what we dont know is the Current situation of our universe
@earth7268
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Check out these channels thoroughly 1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ... 2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions. 3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions.. I'll refer more once you've seen all these.. I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day....
They are here. Seen multiple factions craft. They are here for a very long time. Drake knows. The equation is hypothetical only.
@bunniburtuqoli6987
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Aliens are already here, now.
@blarglemantheskeptic
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No I'm not!
Who says they're not?
How many other planets have their own Frank Drakes?
Who to say they are not here? Webb has seen lights on other planets this means LIFE.
Excellent interview with the late Frank Drake, let us honor his memory as a seminal contributor to SETI. Drake argued that if they exist advanced ET civilizations in our galaxy will make it hard to detect them, requiring substantial resources dedicated to SETI. Then he says that it will require the cost of one space mission to make a real assessment. But what if the cost is much higher, consistent with the Galactic Club having a protocol to only admit civilizations that are no longer primitive like our own with perpetual wars, preventable misery and the threat of climate catastrophe? This is precisely what I argued in 2010 in my essay SETI Redux: Joining the Galactic Club, originally published on Astrobiology Magazine.
RIP Frank Drake, a good guy.
“Why aren’t aliens already here?” Because this is a horrible place full of horrible people. Solved that question for you.
Our paths regarding radio signals have to cross at the right time - or the wrong time depending on how you look at it. If a civilisation 1000 light years away was at the same stage as us - then we wouldn’t see it for another 1000 years. Then they may have done this 15000 years ago - so 3000 years BC for us so we couldn’t detect it. Those signals may well have been and gone - and we may have missed them. The senders may have destroyed themselves by now - we are heading that way after all.
@dakotadustin3556
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I would imagine if we are not unique, there would be enormous numbers of civilizations trying to contact each other at all times. The fact that we can see none implies heavily that we are unique. Not saying it is certain, but it appears to be the reasonable position.
@avi8r66
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And that's the challenge with just listening for radio signals. The Earth may have formed billions of years after, or before, other worlds that support life. And those worlds may have had their civilizations rise and fall without ever developing radio signal generating tech. It's a crap shoot at the very best that we would receive a signal from a distant world that is likely to be technologically produced. The timing of it all is highly problematic. And then like you said, if it came from a distant solar system, potentially billions of light years away, do they still exist? Probably not. By the time their signal arrived their star, or one close enough to them, may have gone nova and wiped them out completely, or their galaxy may have collided with another. Just because we are where we are in our time line doesn't mean any other world's advancements parallel our own.
@earth7268
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Check out these channels thoroughly 1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ... 2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions. 3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions.. I'll refer more once you've seen all these.. I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day....
@meenboli
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@@avi8r66 Exactly - nicely put. It's one of the few things I disagree with Mr. Musk on. The desperation to get off our planet to secure our future I think is nonsense. We simply need to look after the one we've got.
He makes some huge assumptions: "They only want to attract the attention of other civilizations that are serious about learning about other civilizations in space." Why does he think he can say this conclusively?
@User-jr7vf
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In saying this, he is assuming that aliens and humans reason in a similar manner. I agree with you that it is a huge assumption, since nothing prevents aliens from thinking and acting in odd ways.
@cloudoftime
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@@User-jr7vf Exactly. They could think in ways we don't, and they could also think like we do and seek to reach out. This could be productive by inspiring a technologically progressing species to focus on communication. For example, if we received some form of signal that we were convinced was from extraterrestrial intelligence, we would likely fund a lot more research into advancing our ability to communicate with them or at least understand them. If, as Drake proposes, this other species was looking to attract others, why wouldn't they want to inspire that attraction?
@davenchop
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@@cloudoftime ..they could also think of humans as flies on a wall and swat us into extinction
@cloudoftime
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@@davenchop True. Which is why many people are concerned about us attracting attention.
@joenelson3037
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I agree. He seems to be on a fundraising mission with no real basis to justify his claims.
We have only been looking for a handful of decades if that and in a very low tech way, so I am not surprised at all.
@earth7268
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Check out these channels thoroughly 1.Uamn tv - check out videos of Robert Dean and Linda Moulton Howe before you check out other videos it'll give you a clear perspective on stuff..it also has very intersting topics ... 2.Jason media- it has some good interviews and detailed discussions. 3.Forum borealis - check out the stuff about antartica it has 3 parts, very good speakers and in depth discussions.. I'll refer more once you've seen all these.. I hope you watch these , because these will give you a far better understanding on this subject.. I hope you have a beautiful day....
What makes you think they aren't?