Frank Drake - Where are All Those Aliens?

Most scientists assume that the universe must be populated with innumerable alien intelligences and civilizations-after all, there are billions of galaxies each with billions of stars and planets-we humans can't be so special.
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  • @cebineragn8339
    @cebineragn8339 Жыл бұрын

    Just found out that Drake left us this year in September. I wish his family the best, and may his wisdom and curiosity of the cosmos stay with us. Rest in Peace Frank

  • @snowman374th

    @snowman374th

    21 күн бұрын

    I lost my mother Sept 26th. She killed by the Covid stuff in my opinion. I say stuff, not a shot. She never missed any doctors appointments, and she always come back clean. 2012 fought Lung cancer. They removed half of her left lung. She was good to go. From, 2012- 2018. Until Covid. Then Diagnosed with three and 3 months to live. . She took chemo lived 5.1/2 months. Greatest woman I've ever known. She was 77 years old and full of life. RIP Momma.

  • @ahmedp800
    @ahmedp8006 жыл бұрын

    Disappointing yet realistic answer

  • @philliprobinson129

    @philliprobinson129

    4 жыл бұрын

    We dont have enough information about our Universe to call this realistic one way or the other.

  • @youtubisashoe

    @youtubisashoe

    4 жыл бұрын

    Phillip Robinson we’ll forget”realistic” we are looking for the most probable answer

  • @chuckschillingvideos

    @chuckschillingvideos

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@philliprobinson129 We certainly have enough information about our own capabilities/limitations to say without any dispute that we do not have the ANY of the capabilities necessary to make even interstellar space travel even worth thinking about, much less a plausible possibility.

  • @philliprobinson129

    @philliprobinson129

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@chuckschillingvideos no we don't have that at all. We can say we don't have that capability now, but our knowledge of our capabilities is always evolving.

  • @aguy923

    @aguy923

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@philliprobinson129 this is an argument you can make in response to any claim. You can ALWAYS say that, "well our knowledge always changes so this could be wrong in the future." True. Absolute certainty is never possible. We can't know with absolute certainty whether or not the sun will rise tomorrow, whether other humans other than yourself really exist, whether you're a brain in a vat, etc. Our future states of knowledge will always change. Rather than state that obvious fact and say "knowledge will change so this may not be true", you should take what we know today and form opinions from it. If you say that we can't/shouldn't derive conclusions from what we currently understand in physics because it will change in the future, logically you have to do the same with medicine, chemistry, biology, etc. I doubt you would say that its not realistic to derive conclusions on how the heart works, or how hormones work using our current state of knowledge even though our state of knowledge if these will no doubt update in the future. It seems to me that arguments of this kind indicate confirmation bias. One wants something to be true (aliens exist and have visited us for example) and rejects the implications of all modern physics in a way they wouldn't with any other branch of scientific inquiry.

  • @jameszelaznysr.2681
    @jameszelaznysr.26815 жыл бұрын

    Best explanation of space travel .

  • @johnbravo7542

    @johnbravo7542

    4 жыл бұрын

    James Zelazny sr no its not,this guy is an idiot,who knows zero about space and time,and they have been visiting the Earth more recently when human beings started to play with nuclear weapons.

  • @CosmosZeroX

    @CosmosZeroX

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnbravo7542 agree. I also think the nuclear weapons play a role. They saw these testings. They probably thought, how fucking stupid are those humans. Playing around with nuclear bombs, contaminating the whole planet. UFOs are real. They are advanced. Therefore they figured out how to manipulate space-time. Bob Lazar explained it and it makes all sense. A gravitational propulsion system.

  • @ModernGentleman

    @ModernGentleman

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@johnbravo7542 😄

  • @RuthwikRao
    @RuthwikRao6 жыл бұрын

    "an intelligent civilization would not attempt interstellar space flight, only the dumb ones would and they don't know how to do it." LMAO there you have it.

  • @questionreality6003

    @questionreality6003

    5 жыл бұрын

    funny. and added to that fact, is that earth is not 'in a cluster' and would not be a horizon targe for 'good huntings' :)

  • @jant.carlsson5061

    @jant.carlsson5061

    4 жыл бұрын

    That's a good perspective. Touche! Considering the distances, your remark may very well be true. People talk about reversed engineering before we have proof for life out there whatsoever. And while these people talk about wonderful civilizations among the stars, our scientists search for life in the form of bacteria. There we are today and that is what we know. But tell that to the scifi community who are one step ahead of themselves. They are beyond reason.

  • @tonyh9401

    @tonyh9401

    4 жыл бұрын

    Another statement to add to the List of "we will never need more than 16MB of memory on our computer" among others.

  • @sdmods619

    @sdmods619

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@tonyh9401 Far easier to reduce distances than to travel impossibly huge ones

  • @ronschlorff7089

    @ronschlorff7089

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Zardoz Right, to the bravest belong the stars, to the timid belongs the safety of the "cave". In a cave you can not look up to see the stars. As for our destroying ourselves first: "When it is the darkest,..... you can see the stars"!!

  • @lits0_042
    @lits0_0425 жыл бұрын

    My favorite interviewer

  • @jameszelaznysr.2681
    @jameszelaznysr.26815 жыл бұрын

    Frank I'm very happy to have found you on KZread you do the best explanation about space travel, the average American can't comprehend what it's all about.

  • @HajirJMoghaddam
    @HajirJMoghaddam4 жыл бұрын

    smart man. Thanks for these videos, i've been searching for answers to the fermi paradox that make sense to me and i luckily stumbled onto your youtube channel.

  • @donwheeler1208

    @donwheeler1208

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hajir Moghaddam the Fermi paradox is a bunch of BS. Their here and have been for quite some time. It’s time for the world to awaken! Just watch some of the NASA space videos or you could just click on me to see them. I’ve seen over twenty five of these things and captured a handful on video. Watch the four minute video entitled “orbs around us all the time”

  • @donpowlen
    @donpowlen3 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful interview!!

  • @AnaLuizaHella
    @AnaLuizaHella3 жыл бұрын

    They are here, always have.

  • @magicsinglez
    @magicsinglez4 жыл бұрын

    This is the second scientist I’ve totally loved. Total, total love. 2nd scientist - second figure - after Jared Diamond I’ve totally loved.

  • @jjt1881

    @jjt1881

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same thing here, minus Jared Diamond.

  • @user-jt1ug2eu4w
    @user-jt1ug2eu4w6 жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't expect anything less from Frank Drake himself - to the point and realistic. No matter how advanced telescopes or how fast ships we build, the universe has limitations that can't be reached, no matter what technology we obtain.

  • @philliprobinson129

    @philliprobinson129

    4 жыл бұрын

    We are in no position at our current level of understanding to know that for certain.

  • @ZlaRah

    @ZlaRah

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@philliprobinson129 We definitely know many things. If they are “for certain” or not doesn’t really matter. For example, we know to a high degree that interstellar space travel will require huge amount of energy, that knowledge will not change. So not everything will be revised moving forward. A table will always be made of atoms, that will never change moving forward. Maybe we will learn more about them but it will still be made of atoms.

  • @nerforeos675
    @nerforeos6756 жыл бұрын

    Well said. This man is brilliant.

  • @johnbravo7542

    @johnbravo7542

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nerf Oreos LMAFO

  • @propheticdreams8703

    @propheticdreams8703

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. No. Sorry. Bad equation. Bad thinking.

  • @fvckinfool101
    @fvckinfool1015 жыл бұрын

    Ha! you ask the inventor of the Drake equation if he would consider that we are alone in the universe. Ironic.

  • @normanthornton9376

    @normanthornton9376

    3 жыл бұрын

    We need not be alone, in all probability their are other societies in our galaxy studying us as we attempt to study them. Intelligence eventually leads to the futility of inter stellar space travel and the more advanced a society becomes it realizes the impossibility of such an endeavor. We are having tremendous trouble mounting an expedition to a close Planet in our own Solar System. The problems faced on even this relatively short distance, less than fifty million miles, seem insurmountable, if we are to preserve and ensure the lives of he Astronauts. Imagine a trip to Alpha Proxima which is estimated to be some twenty five trillion miles away

  • @sunny-sq6ci

    @sunny-sq6ci

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's not a dumb question, as even the very people who are tasked with trying to answer the equation, will admit that they themselves are not sure if what the answer actually is. factors with the universe, including our current primitive understanding of how the universe actually works, make things like 'searching' for intelligent life, is probably insanely difficult.

  • @fvckinfool101

    @fvckinfool101

    3 жыл бұрын

    s cho I never said it was a dumb question, if that is what your implying. My comment was of irony, asking a guy who clearly believes other life exists else where in the cosmos, if he believes life exists elsewhere lol.

  • @normanthornton9376

    @normanthornton9376

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sunny-sq6ci I do not consider any question as being "dumb" Questions about science must be answered in the logic and reasoning of what is known to be true. For instance their are "UFO's" too many people, reputable people, have seen them, but a UFO is just that, An Unidentified Flying Object. You may not want to accept it but ninety nine point nine percent of them can be explained by science.. In so far as space travel is concerned, ask your self if you were going to make an automobile trip of a thousand miles and you didn't want to make any stops along the way, you must carry everything you will need with you, enough gas, some sandwiches, water or drinks, a means of relief if necessary, maps and everything else that you might possibly need.. Now lets extend that trip to ten thousand miles, every thing you carried before must be multiplied ten times. Logic should tell you that you don't have the room to carry everything you will need on a trip that long. Extending that premise to space travel imagine the logistics of a twenty thousand year trip for a bre minimum of twenty people. Do you realize that any energy source will run out in under seventy years.. Nuclear energy will be depleted in under sixty years and you would be too far from any star to tap its solar generating potential.. If this were not so NASA would have equipped Voyager's one and two with solar generating sails to compensate for the Nuclear energy source they both rely on at present Their are physical reasons why no solid mass can travel more than two hundred fifty thousand miles per hour in relative velocity and remain intact. What we call time is the primary factor that any intelligent society would consider before making such a trip and that is the why of such a trip. What could we learn from another being in twenty thousand years that we won't learn on our own in that same time. The universe works the same no matter where you are or may be in it at any and all times. What applies on Earth applies on the most distant body in the universe. . .

  • @normanthornton9376

    @normanthornton9376

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sunny-sq6ci Who are those people TASKED with uncovering Alien beings. Who assigned them to this TASK. SETI is a proven exercise in futility and as far as I know is a private organization bent on getting a signal from some alien society. Do you or they realize the wattage necessary to send a signal from any stellar body orbiting a star just to overcome the radiation of the star itself. Think of the wattage necessary just to communicate with Voyager one or two. Plus communications from them reaches Earth at wattage levels so small that it takes four or five large radio antenaes to decipher the signal. To send a signal from Alpha Proxima to Earth it would require in excess of a billion watts of power at twenty four trillion miles distance. Wattage decreases at the same rate as gravity does over distance.. What is the reciprocal of a billiion watt transmitter at twenty four trillion miles distance. This is why SETI is an exercise in futility. A billion watts of power would burn up any substance we know of if it were applied to it. Then we have that overriding question of, wouldn't a society so advanced to do this know these facts and not even make such an attempt. Get real, S Cho Intelligence doesn't engage in useless projects or they shouldn't when they know it has no reward of any kind. .

  • @mechanicjobs
    @mechanicjobs2 жыл бұрын

    Very cool interview.

  • @Dra741
    @Dra7414 жыл бұрын

    We actually can track the flying saucers and flying Tic tack now some of them, only if they want us to see them

  • @geoden
    @geoden3 жыл бұрын

    ''Only the dumb ones would do it, and they don't know how'' , well said Frank!

  • @johnaugsburger6192
    @johnaugsburger61924 жыл бұрын

    Thanks

  • @Great_WOK_Must_Be_Done
    @Great_WOK_Must_Be_Done Жыл бұрын

    Good answer!

  • @iordanisiordanidis1289
    @iordanisiordanidis128910 ай бұрын

    Priceless

  • @BIngeilski
    @BIngeilski5 жыл бұрын

    Wow! what wise arguments from Frank Drake!

  • @billyjohn9192

    @billyjohn9192

    4 жыл бұрын

    How so? All he is doing, is trying to back up his flawed equation.

  • @COURTESAN_BAND_UK
    @COURTESAN_BAND_UK5 жыл бұрын

    “Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind-bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space.”

  • @roarblast7332

    @roarblast7332

    4 жыл бұрын

    Is that hitchhikers? It sounds like it.

  • @CanadianPrepper
    @CanadianPrepper5 жыл бұрын

    This doesnt factor in A.I or exponential technological growth in general. The pebble idea is something I hadn't thought of. They also dont factor in interdimensional travel, I.e. intelligence projected in energy. Lots of myopia with this guy but he makes good points. It has that bill Gates "no one will need more than a fee kilobytes" feel

  • @WyrdBlogger01

    @WyrdBlogger01

    5 жыл бұрын

    His myopia is in part trying to justify the original equation, which represented the dawn of radio astronomy. TBQH, the equation makes a lot of assumptions about things we haven't really verified. The most cryptic parts are based on assumptions, which are very important parts of the equation.

  • @fishoutofmind4943

    @fishoutofmind4943

    4 жыл бұрын

    It doesn't matter how exponential the technology gets, we're still bound to the laws of physics. As for interdimensional travel, that's just science fiction.

  • @erixoz8535

    @erixoz8535

    3 жыл бұрын

    It factors in the speed of light, the one thing meat headed dreamers don't factor in.

  • @harbajgrewal6031

    @harbajgrewal6031

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know exactly what u r saying, he's opaque to the idea of singularity. " Intelligent civilization wouldn't attempt space travel" that's just a dumb argument. We can't comprehend what will happen after singularity. We'll discover new things every milli second

  • @harbajgrewal6031

    @harbajgrewal6031

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@fishoutofmind4943 laws of nature which we don't even know, it has everything to do with exponential growth of technology and general AI. After singularity, if we do reach it, it will be pretty clear how easy it would become for us(or them I should say). We might witness in the near future 50 years maybe

  • @philpritchard8772
    @philpritchard87723 жыл бұрын

    A human answer to a non human question. Doesn’t matter how clever a human you are your brain is looking at it from a perspective that is incomprehensible to us

  • @jjt1881
    @jjt18814 жыл бұрын

    Frank Drake: Father of us all. Yours are the words of wisdom. We listen in awe.

  • @uprightape100
    @uprightape1006 жыл бұрын

    Cool vid. Wish I'd taken a class from Frank when I was a UCSC student sooooo long ago.

  • @mael-strom9707

    @mael-strom9707

    5 жыл бұрын

    You would be where you are now ...only sooner. ...lol.

  • @davefischer2344
    @davefischer23444 жыл бұрын

    Interesting

  • @sotiriospapafragkou4422
    @sotiriospapafragkou44223 жыл бұрын

    Would have loved to hear Sagan’s answer...

  • @paulmurphy42
    @paulmurphy422 жыл бұрын

    He wasn't asked, and didn't say, why we haven't received radio or tv signals...has he been asked this in any other interview here on KZread?

  • @ChrisTopher-vs9zz
    @ChrisTopher-vs9zz3 жыл бұрын

    Mr Kuhn you MISSED the BIG question: "If there are intelligent species in the universe, they'd be sending TRILLIONS of various radio/ laser/ light signals --- WHY haven't we seen a single one?"

  • @paimannamazi1128

    @paimannamazi1128

    3 жыл бұрын

    How would you know that? Maybe they use different types of technology to transmit information.

  • @stephenbrand5661
    @stephenbrand56613 жыл бұрын

    I have a family friend who claims to have been abducted by aliens along with his brother, he was even interviewed about it for a show on the Discovery Channel back in the 90s. This answer is the one I favor, that the distances involved make it so that we might as well be alone.

  • @mollykeane2571

    @mollykeane2571

    3 жыл бұрын

    As I've just commented elsewhere: Distance isn't an issue with inter-dimensional beings.

  • @harbajgrewal6031

    @harbajgrewal6031

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mollykeane2571 there are always ppl who I don't know why are too opaque to future discoveries. I mean after singularity, it's probably peanuts for AI

  • @dh101010
    @dh1010104 жыл бұрын

    Our Sun by being boring and nothing special by itself, could actually BE special! Our perception may not be the other person's perception; perception is NOT reality :)

  • @johnk7302
    @johnk73023 жыл бұрын

    What is that piece of equipment behind Mr. Drake?

  • @compellingpoint7802
    @compellingpoint78023 жыл бұрын

    Compelling Points.

  • @jeremywinston7199
    @jeremywinston71993 жыл бұрын

    First lesson learned out in the field as a civil engineer is it might look good on paper but will it work in the real world.

  • @erixoz8535
    @erixoz85353 жыл бұрын

    Exactly, the distances are far too great.

  • @DANNYtheBOY11

    @DANNYtheBOY11

    2 жыл бұрын

    I don't know why they keep asking the same stupid question over and over when the answer is so stupidly evident; even with some billions of intelligent lifes like ours or above in our own galaxy (which is already a terrible large place to consider and it does not make any sense think larger than that), the closest neighbourhood would not be detectable and reachable by any means....

  • @erixoz8535

    @erixoz8535

    2 жыл бұрын

    AI systems could travel far enough and probably have, not living beings.

  • @DANNYtheBOY11

    @DANNYtheBOY11

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@erixoz8535 even for that kind of "life" (I would guess not super common) those iperlong trips are incredibly challeging, much more chances that something goes wrong during every trip they could make.

  • @michelvandepol1485
    @michelvandepol1485 Жыл бұрын

    wow inpressive knowledge

  • @FollowFunk
    @FollowFunk6 жыл бұрын

    I think humans just have real trouble comprehending what a million years really is. It's just way too much time to expect nothing to go wrong while traveling through space, let alone even just expect an organism to survive.

  • @afterthefox

    @afterthefox

    3 жыл бұрын

    exactly...humans cannot fathom the enormity of space...

  • @switchlaserflip9243

    @switchlaserflip9243

    2 жыл бұрын

    We would have to freeze ourselves somehow and hibernate.

  • @goyonman9655

    @goyonman9655

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@afterthefox Cringe

  • @afterthefox

    @afterthefox

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@goyonman9655 ???

  • @michaelp3122
    @michaelp31226 жыл бұрын

    Frank is a wise man

  • @theopoiesis
    @theopoiesis3 жыл бұрын

    Legend

  • @ezekielbrockmann114
    @ezekielbrockmann1143 жыл бұрын

    When watching these, one needs to remember that, speaking in strictly scientific terms, "intelligent life" means "carnivorous hunters."

  • @warrenrae32
    @warrenrae323 жыл бұрын

    Refreshing to hear some honest logic for a change

  • @mael-strom9707
    @mael-strom97075 жыл бұрын

    There are alien intelligences here on Earth ...the octopus is one example ...we eat them. ^^

  • @charmerwatt1329
    @charmerwatt13292 жыл бұрын

    The fact that the Sun is 'boring' and nothing really happens to it over long periods of time means our solar system is relatively stable, and that's one reason why Earth has thrived and evolved life so successfully.

  • @quraan_thoughts
    @quraan_thoughts3 жыл бұрын

    The probability is low, even with 100B Galaxies x 300B stars, the suitable environment probability for any life to start/created on any planet itself is on the knife edge

  • @ClassicRock1973
    @ClassicRock19735 жыл бұрын

    This clears it up . It is logistically impossible to achieve meaningful or even ANY communication with aliens because of the distance problem.

  • @neurozero
    @neurozero5 жыл бұрын

    this guy is so optimistic

  • @rightright6582
    @rightright65823 жыл бұрын

    Nice. Just nice

  • @matthew944
    @matthew9443 жыл бұрын

    Wow, you got to have a conversation with Frank Drake! So awesome.

  • @Dan.50
    @Dan.505 жыл бұрын

    We have observed NO life outside of our planet. No time travelers, no beings from other dimensions, no nothing. The probability of life arising on earth is a statistical impossibility. Until proven otherwise by observable evidence, we are alone.

  • @johnweaver4564
    @johnweaver4564 Жыл бұрын

    Great points. I would like to see something that suggests life out there one day. I’ve always wondered about our history here on earth with the “Gods” that ancient humans encountered were of possible extraterrestrial origin. A lot of lost history. An artifact or radio signal would be encouraging.

  • @HakWilliams
    @HakWilliams Жыл бұрын

    Why don't we see light or radio communication?

  • @mrkcioffi
    @mrkcioffi Жыл бұрын

    What I love about Frank is he never proposes anything preposterous. He's only saying that the probability that we are alone doesn't add up. The universes is most likely filled with life. Whether that life is intelligent or capable was never part of his reasoning. The problem with homo sapiens is that we view the universe as human centric. We always think that just because we are a certain way that the rest of the universe must be like us. It's just a ridiculous assumption. Other life forms may or may not be anything remotely close to human evolution.

  • @mickmalkemus5019
    @mickmalkemus50193 жыл бұрын

    They are visiting us. Just because limited nascent human technology can't detect them is irrelevant.

  • @johns294
    @johns2946 жыл бұрын

    His equation just sets the mathematical estimations of life producing possibilities out there in the universe . It says nothing about there actually being any life out there .....

  • @RalphDratman
    @RalphDratman4 жыл бұрын

    Drake's da man.

  • @davidgustavsson3570
    @davidgustavsson35703 жыл бұрын

    Yes we are

  • @8dioproductions
    @8dioproductions6 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful, brilliant science mind!

  • @billyjohn9192

    @billyjohn9192

    4 жыл бұрын

    Who?

  • @videosbymathew
    @videosbymathew5 жыл бұрын

    He starts with the most outlandish and unrealistic hypothesis (to point out their outlandishness), but glad that he finished with the most realistic... the Universe 'isn't that way', and distance and time is enormous. Life and especially civilization just doesn't last long enough to meet others. Everyone is alone during their times in existence, more or less.

  • @D97mgtow
    @D97mgtow4 жыл бұрын

    Life will be out there but there’s too many variables for us meet them. Time, distance etc I certainly take the zoo hypothesis seriously, we do no less with primitive uncontacted tribes here on earth. If we discovered a race of people on Mars living in the Bronze Age then it’s almost certain we would not try to contact them. We would simply observe them. From an aliens perspective to visit the earth with blatantly superior technology will obviously cause problems for the human race. For one we will want access to that technology and secondly huge swathes of the population will react with fear and terror. ET will be clever enough to know this.

  • @renaissanceman5847

    @renaissanceman5847

    3 жыл бұрын

    true... but then again... ET will realize that humans are a destructive animal that is destroying itself and the planet... so like a zoo... they would probably hose the planet down with a human equivalent of weed killer.

  • @jezebulls

    @jezebulls

    3 жыл бұрын

    You’re assuming other organisms will evolve exactly like us.

  • @johnxantoro5511

    @johnxantoro5511

    3 жыл бұрын

    I find the zoo hypothesis pretty unsettling from an ethical perspective. There is a lot of horrible stuff going on (from child cancer to wars, sicknesses, abuse, factory farming etc.) and just observing that without trying to improve the situation might sound "reasonable" (aka Star Trek first directive) but really it's fucked up. Because all those victims who suffer didn't choose it, it's not like to people stepping willingly in the octagong to MMA each other.

  • @renaissanceman5847

    @renaissanceman5847

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@johnxantoro5511 the issue with your view is thinking that an advanced alien race has anything like morals or ethics...

  • @johnxantoro5511

    @johnxantoro5511

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@renaissanceman5847 But that is my point. It would be unsettling because it would basically prove that they don't live ethically.

  • @adamgm84
    @adamgm844 жыл бұрын

    I always revisit this thought that, what if we are the first ones to emerge. We need to make sure Earth stays safe so we can find out.

  • @mc1dash1b
    @mc1dash1b4 жыл бұрын

    You neglect to consider dilithium crystals and warp drive.

  • @myothersoul1953
    @myothersoul19534 жыл бұрын

    What about the possibility that they are too small to see, at least from this distance?

  • @194decibels
    @194decibels3 жыл бұрын

    He doesn't fully reckon with the fermi paradox. He says travel is too costly to expect to find evidence of travel, but that's not the only way to gather or provide evidence. As he indicated, light and radio waves can also furnish evidence to us, and yet, we are empty handed. The costliness of travel does not explain why.

  • @jamesruscheinski8602
    @jamesruscheinski86022 жыл бұрын

    If interstellar travel so difficult for us, the how close would an intelligent alien civilization have to be in galaxy for it to be possible and worthwhile to travel to earth, even to just send a probe? Such an intelligent alien civilization would probably have to be millions of years old and not too many light years away in galaxy? Can the Drake equation factor in intelligent alien civilizations that are at least a million years old and a feasible number of light years away?

  • @GBuckne
    @GBuckne4 жыл бұрын

    ..one more thing, if you can travel at or faster than the speed of light, more than likely you are not using radio waves because they are too slow...we know now that the Higgs is part of the mechanism responsible for attaining mass as you approach the speed of light, if you can alter this mechanism (which they can, haha) of the vacuum light velocity could possibly be overcome

  • @martijn7627
    @martijn76273 жыл бұрын

    o man plse wake up, they are already here probably for a long time to. Universe is teaming with life.

  • @mollykeane2571

    @mollykeane2571

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rubiks6 Plenty of people have.

  • @mollykeane2571

    @mollykeane2571

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rubiks6 It doesn't mean it's not there though.

  • @rekenney100
    @rekenney1005 жыл бұрын

    Fun Video ... but everything Frank noted as the "boring" attributes of our star or the exact reason it is interesting, unique and different.

  • @pongesz2000
    @pongesz20006 жыл бұрын

    there is a conceptual error with speed of the von neumann probes fundamentally. the distance which can be reached within a time interval is bounded by the speed of light multiplied with the elapsed time, so with the most effective way the speed of the spread out is a cubic instead of exponential at most.

  • @Gitars25

    @Gitars25

    5 жыл бұрын

    It is exponential. Remember the distance covered by each probe is roughly the same, but they will eventually cover a large area. It's not really about covering a large distance relative to the starting point. If every star in the galaxy was lined up then yes it wouldn't be possible to do it exponentially quickly. But they're spread out.

  • @frankb.southernwing
    @frankb.southernwing2 жыл бұрын

    Dr Frank Drake you probably have seen #Unacknowledged this will answer every Question

  • @billyhallmon6867
    @billyhallmon68673 жыл бұрын

    1:26. You have to be joking! I witnessed an intelligent non-human machine at 11-pm CDT on 6-12-2014 for three minutes over Dallas Texas. Get Real!

  • @ChrisTopher-vs9zz

    @ChrisTopher-vs9zz

    3 жыл бұрын

    good mushrooms, huh?

  • @jj4460

    @jj4460

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have witnessed crafts too. There are only 2 ways. Either back engineered or real stuff. I do believe in the last. There has been so many encounters as well down to abduction cases. I think they in secret try to develop a new hybrid race. They have been here for ages and we might even have been seeded by them. If you think that rock up there called the moon is a natural object, wrong. It was brought into orbit billion of years ago and does have a function. A good read, the book, "Who built the moon". What I am trying to say, not only do they observe us, they even seeded this planet with the human race of today.

  • @RileyRampant
    @RileyRampant3 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Drake is loaded with common sense. I do wonder, however, about the relative uniqueness not of our star, but our star system, which we have not as yet seen replicated in our small exoplanet search space. You can argue that our uniqueness may be impossible, but leaving how commonplace animal life in the galaxy/universe an open question.

  • @redglazedeyez6652
    @redglazedeyez66526 жыл бұрын

    we are alone. no evidence no probes nothing out there. just us.

  • @blunttime1089

    @blunttime1089

    5 жыл бұрын

    Well that doesn’t mean anything... I mean there’s more stars in the universe than there is grains of sand on every beach in the world. I bet we haven’t looked at every star....

  • @username6135
    @username61353 жыл бұрын

    10:33 so telepathic communication is ruled out then?

  • @justgivemethetruth
    @justgivemethetruth5 жыл бұрын

    The smartest most reasonable comments on this subject I've ever heard. No one wants to do this, or spend the money and time to do this. The only problem is that we do not know how to build self-reproducing probes, and in fact we cannot probably sustain our own species with all our supposed brilliance.

  • @bonysminiatures3123
    @bonysminiatures31233 жыл бұрын

    physics does not tell us anything about traveling to the stars, what i`m saying is physics is still in its infancy theirs so much more to discover and learn

  • @Dra741
    @Dra7414 жыл бұрын

    The reason we don't see evidence of extraterrestrial civilization is because our ability to observe them

  • @kevinkitton

    @kevinkitton

    4 жыл бұрын

    Andre Williams inability

  • @DrJanpha
    @DrJanpha3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Professor Drake for your insightful and thoughtful comments. Your answer has , for me, illuminated my ignorance of the science and physics- "Only the dump ones (aliens) would attempt to fly a spacecraft to another star..."

  • @flux9433

    @flux9433

    Жыл бұрын

    maybe they just wanted to escape home cuz of catastrophic event that they've predicted through math!

  • @flux9433

    @flux9433

    Жыл бұрын

    the earth calculated by math will only exsist 12 thousand years from now on

  • @flux9433

    @flux9433

    Жыл бұрын

    its dumb saying not wise that the dumb once will try

  • @aclearlight
    @aclearlight4 жыл бұрын

    Wonderfully intelligent discussion.

  • @mdilascio

    @mdilascio

    3 жыл бұрын

    Smart and knowledgeable answers to opinionated shady questions

  • @jant.carlsson5061
    @jant.carlsson50614 жыл бұрын

    What a wonderful thing it is to listen to this guy among all the people that so obviously consider themselves bright, but just destroy the subject with their fantasies. There has to be reason. That's right! Reason! This man gives the necessary perspectives. It's a good thing to start with the obvious questions how and why? How are the aliens travel and why would they come here? It's easy to say reversed enginering, but try to sort it out in the real world. There are observations I believe might be alien crafts, but there is not one solid proof for it. Until we have that, I think it's healthy to keep one's imagination in check.

  • @horkade
    @horkade6 жыл бұрын

    There is an episode of Cosmos in which Sagan adresses the space travel and its troubles. I noticed that, unlike Drake, he explained it taking the speed of light effect on time. Sagan, for example, says we could reach the center of our galaxy in 21 years, ship time, at the speed of light. But the center of the galaxy is 30,000 light years from us, which means that this would be time passed for the organisms that didn't take part of the travel. Drake seems to think that the time will pass the same way to the passangers. One of them must be wrong.

  • @twirlipofthemists3201

    @twirlipofthemists3201

    6 жыл бұрын

    They're both right. Sagan was talking about (sci fi) traveling at >99% light speed. Drake was talking about (reality) 1% light speed. Some day, with fusion or antimatter, we might go 10-30% light speed - not fast enough for time dilation to matter.

  • @ancaro8771

    @ancaro8771

    6 жыл бұрын

    and what will be the reason that will stop us from reaching 99%+ of light speed? Also have you heard of teleportation? Why doesn't drake acknowledge teleportation?

  • @arnoldloudly5423
    @arnoldloudly54235 жыл бұрын

    A thought experiment consisting of actual thought and genuinly honest conclusions. Thank You!!!

  • @drs9489
    @drs94894 жыл бұрын

    It makes sense to me that if I was an alien species and went traveling through space looking for another intelligent species our type of stable boring Sun would be the ideal place I would start looking. Since that's the environment that produced my intelligent species. Not a sun that is brighter or drastically different in some other aspects that I can't imagine.

  • @vicpalushaj
    @vicpalushaj3 жыл бұрын

    Boring is a good attribute for a stat if you want intelligent organisms to evolve? That’s all we look for when searching for exoplanets that could sustain life I would assume other intelligent beings would do the same

  • @jean-pierredevent970
    @jean-pierredevent9703 жыл бұрын

    A sort of prime directive from Startrek could forbid contact until we are ready for it. But there is more going on than that since we even observe nothing remarkable that can't be anything other than alien. So I start then wondering if it's possible to filter all our observations. That seems to take a kind of impossible big cloak around the earth, it would take enormous energy. Who knows there are other ways however.

  • @jean-pierredevent970

    @jean-pierredevent970

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Wild One Perhaps, but you certainly nail it that if aliens can hide what is (was) "really" going in the universe, then they could also hide many other things going on under our nose in the solar system. But that cloaking technique seems almost impossible. How could you do it ? A screen bigger than the earth?

  • @jeffdunlap2754
    @jeffdunlap27543 жыл бұрын

    Distances and the laws of physics, time to evolve

  • @vitoamos2815
    @vitoamos28154 жыл бұрын

    Earth is still primal...and his answers are hypothetical...Has he spoken to aliens, wonder when they told him it was to far...

  • @samuelarthur887
    @samuelarthur8876 жыл бұрын

    We could pick up a few or several neutron stars, strategically position them to bend space-time for us and travel with new propulsion systems that use solar or nuclear energy or some form of new fuel that will be sufficient to go and return.

  • @Ma-yb9zt
    @Ma-yb9zt3 жыл бұрын

    Singularity happend and quantum computing and they webt in micro SPACE because size is irrellevant

  • @drjojo5551
    @drjojo55514 жыл бұрын

    Why not build space settlement mock-ups here on earth! AND start from scratch!! As would a mars lander landing in dirt!!

  • @dougzembiec9995
    @dougzembiec99953 жыл бұрын

    That still doesn't answer the question "why aren't we hearing from these aliens via radio waves"

  • @MacMic333

    @MacMic333

    3 жыл бұрын

    Try telepathy?

  • @ariesmars29

    @ariesmars29

    2 жыл бұрын

    Because they don't exist. There are simply too many variables against the formation of life. We are, in fact, special on Earth.

  • @misterroberts4240
    @misterroberts42404 жыл бұрын

    exactly what i would say

  • @Dra741
    @Dra7414 жыл бұрын

    If we look at the evidence it appears to me that the variety of craft and the performance characteristics of these vehicles which we have tracked on radar are not consistent with the normal pattern that goes with coming from one place, apparently we have multiple phenomena if you want to call it that oh, it's not coming from one place oh, but their technology and capabilities are quite similar because they're able to do things that are out of the scope of even the comprehension is the most advanced science on Earth

  • @tonyh9401
    @tonyh94014 жыл бұрын

    What they described regarding self replicating robots, come to think about it, it kind of sounds like human; so intead of sending self replicating metal robots/nanobots, they sent out biological one.

  • @williamhcarlton
    @williamhcarlton4 жыл бұрын

    It's actually not true that our solar system is not unique. Now that we have mapped many other solar systems, we can now see that planet sizes tend to be very homogeneous. The range of size variation between the planets in our solar system appears to be unusual.

  • @enigmaticmusic6242
    @enigmaticmusic6242 Жыл бұрын

    He just laid it all without saying it directly. The greys that we are familiar with are not biological living creatures, they are essentially robots

  • @colingeorgejenkins2885
    @colingeorgejenkins28854 жыл бұрын

    We aren't in contact with aliens and we aren't the aliens. We are all little children inside

  • @keithharris7569
    @keithharris75696 жыл бұрын

    We’re all trapped in our own Little Rock pools of existence which makes a bit of a nonsense of wanting to understand the universe as a whole... So much for curiosity and mind blowing science that’ll never really get us anywhere....

  • @shazanali692
    @shazanali6923 жыл бұрын

    If the most avarage star can get life going then the possibility of life is bigger then we can imagine

  • @ronjohnson4566
    @ronjohnson45666 жыл бұрын

    about time someone said this. We ain't gonna go to another star or galaxy. silliness. Is it just my area or is all of PBS not showing this wonderful show?

  • @victorgiacobbe4453

    @victorgiacobbe4453

    5 жыл бұрын

    ron johnson I guess we'll never be able to fly people use to say how out dated they sound

  • @Dra741
    @Dra7414 жыл бұрын

    The Drake equation doesn't take into consideration everything else that's out there