For people who want to compare directly, here are the timestamps: Strat, dry signal: 2:51 TS808: Strat: 3:28 Tele: 3:46 Collings: 4:12 LP: 4:34 Klon: Strat: 5:11 Tele: 5:49 Collings: 6:20 LP: 6:55 Rat: Strat: 7:25 Tele: 7:50 Collings: 8:08 LP: 8:33 Strat > TS808 + Klon: 11:07 LP > TS808 + Klon: 11:49 LP > TS808 + Rat: 12:20 LP > Klon + Rat: 12:47 Collings > TS808 + Klon: 13:39 Tele > Klon + Rat: 20:11 LP > Klon + Rat (again): 20:48

@patricklandfair4945

7 жыл бұрын

Champ, thanks

@kennyolszewski1053

7 жыл бұрын

Nick Siepmann bless you

@jarek1117

7 жыл бұрын

Fucking cheers mate

@adakhochalai

7 жыл бұрын

damn thanks for the effort and making time better

@edthejester

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

That Telecaster sounded wicked. Love it the best over all the others.

Tele + Klon was really great!

“Let’s juice the rat with the klon, if we don’t mind?“ we absolutely do not mind

The Rat seems the most versatile to me, especially considering how low the gain was set. Makes a great OD pedal like that, as opposed to the distortion that it's marketed as.

@moustachio334

Жыл бұрын

Overdrives create distortion too ;)

@hf2590

8 ай бұрын

All time favourite overdrive on my board...

I discovered this show about 1 week ago... now I have watched all the episodes...It's more addictive than Game of Thrones. Thank you and keep it coming!

I'm going to start a That Pedal Show Show where I A/B various vintage episodes and see how well they inform when played through various media devices.

Just picked up a Rat for $45. This demo made me happy about my decision!

As a guy who knows very little about guitars and pedals I found this video to be hugely informative about the relationship different pick-ups have with different pedals. Thank you for producing such an educational aid for the uninformed. While I realise, from watching your other videos, that amps too can have pedals that work well with them, or not, I also now know that certain amps can work with most pedals, amps like the Hamstead. If you could do a few videos on what are your favorite pedal rigs with the Gibson (PAF), Collings (P-90's), Strat and Tele I would really appreciate it? My son and I love your shows and have learned lots from them, please keep up the good work!!

That Tele is a beast!!

@Ojoe2010

9 жыл бұрын

+Mike Bradley yeah, sounded great with any pedal.....which could not be said of all the guitars, to my personal opinion and ears of course

@ryancoveyduc9160

9 жыл бұрын

+Ojoe2010 Agreed. For me, the Tele and the Klon won the show.

@miguelpessanha

8 жыл бұрын

+Ryan Coveyduc Absolutely!!

@rodrigora

6 жыл бұрын

Which telecaster model is this?

@nicolasgibbons4683

6 жыл бұрын

rodrigora I believe it is either a late 90s or early 2000s custom shop

Awesome show as always. Something i recently learned with the Klons that made me think of them differently is thinking of the gain almost as a mid control for a boost mode. So start with level and treble at noon for starters to use it like a boost, adjust your treble to where you like it, then just bring in the gain to add in that mid boost to taste.

That Klon & Rat Combo is just SICK!

@alexisschrodinger75

6 жыл бұрын

TheNanojazz the best sound of the video!, but how are they stacked?, Tele-->RAT-->Klon? Or Tele-->Klon-->RAT?

Hard to say which combination is actually better, since the guitars all have different output levels, but the pedal settings were not adjusted to compensate. It was fun to see and hear the differences without having to buy thousands of dollars worth of equipment. Thanks a lot for the demo!

5:17 - 5:19 For those 2 seconds it sounds like there is a chorus on the Klon. Amazing.

@alexandersmith6140

3 жыл бұрын

That IMO is the secret to the Klon's enduring popularity. The circuit takes two copies of the guitar signal, EQs and compresses and clips one, and then blends the two signals back together. It's like parallel compression + parallel EQ + a harmonic sweetener + a slight chorus, even before it starts with the regular ol' hard-clipping.

Loved the Strat and Tubescreamer...The Les Paul and Rat...Tele and Klon...Collings with all the pedals!

Don't normally love Strats, but that Strat TS808 combo was awesome, and of course you reproved to me why I love Teles. Tele and Klon was killer, and then when you stacked the Rat, huge.

@theWARMJET

4 жыл бұрын

its always handy to have a tube screamer

Love this show. I particularly like how Dan seems to barely tolerate Micks questions.....( funny thing is those are exactly the questions I'd ask ha ha)

@jagtone

6 жыл бұрын

Funny, I was thinking that Mick barely tolerates Dan's ever-ready mantras of midrange and compression, or his orgasmic faces every time he plays.

@zhou_sei

5 жыл бұрын

@@jagtone it sounds like you both are living through them vicariously

TS808 - Strat (neck) Klon - Tele RAT - Gibson or Tele

Guys, this is great! Every week I'm looking forward to the show.

That Collings is so nice, easily my favourite guitar on the show! Makes me want to save for one...

That Collings just sounds so epic!

20:00 tele and rat+klon sounds naughty. he's dirty dan

Klon+Rat sounds like a fantastic duo! Great show guys!

God I love this show! I'm in my shed right now converting an old wah into an expression pedal. Greets from Coledale, NSW!

The Collings sounded nice with everything - overall my favourite guitar here.

Some very nice sounds there! I've actually been using the Archer Ikon and RAT combo for the last couple of months. Really happy with it!

@TheGigRigDaniel

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah, really killer combination :)

These are some of the best guitar sounds I've heard on KZread.

I just discovered this great channel today. Damn, i just can´t sleep tonight watching your amazing videos. thanks!! Hey Daniel! Nice Strymon t-shirt!

The Tones for Tache A/B comparison of the Klon and Archer is freaking hilarious!!! You guys are officially freaky...

@TheGigRigDaniel

9 жыл бұрын

As long as it's Oficial :)

Hey Dan, the audio quality on your videos is sweet! A video on mic'ing amps would be great..

@TheGigRigDaniel

9 жыл бұрын

+Haitham Issam yeah, we need to do that, Cheers Haytham ;)

With that Video you show the potential of stacking Pedals! The Rat just can't get me, but stacked with the TS or the Klon, I really like it. I love how you guys take the basics of Guitar sound, Pickups, Pedals an Amps and analyzed and discuss it. Satisfies my inner Guitar Geek. Keep up the great Video Work !

Great show! Tons of fun to watch and then go and play with my own board. Thanks for all the inspiration!

Unstacked Tele + Rat was amazing. Stacked Tele + Klon & Rat. The Strat sounded best when the 808 was involved. The Collings disappeared with some of them, sounded amazing with others (808!). Les Paul + Klon was awesome.

ive found that i like the rat sound on several different pedals - but mostly for 50-60's rockabilly riffs added to a metal sound... to me a rat pedal is worth every tone !!!!!!

I wish we could hear all of that level matched. The tele sounded all around mean through each pedal but I couldn't tell for sure if it wasn't just because it was cranked louder than others

You guys are totally badass. All the gear geeking out I love, in an entertaining format, and with incredible sound. Keep it up!

Man with amps that sound that good I think you could plug in almost anything and it'd sound great.

I have to say after digging out my old Rat pedal, that combo rocks! Makes me not miss owning a Les Paul all that much after all. Funny to re-watch this episode as I didn't remember Dan having such a great joy for the Klon pedal. They may have to put the Klon and the 808 in the box with Mick when he goes, he just seems to love them so!

always wondered how awesome an american fender tele was. then i got one. and now i know. just somethin every guitar player should experience

I’m a big fan of the Strat into the Klon! It really emphasises those in betweeny tones, and responds well to your dynamic playing!

That board has my dream pedals: ts808, klon, big sky, and pog. If it had a Jerry Cantrell wah and a strymon timeline it would be my dream board

LP and TS sound great

I'd love to see you guys compare some guitars loaded with goldfoil pickups, lipstick pickups, P90, TV Jones, and Charlie Christian pickups. especially Strats and Teles with alternative pickup setups (Coodercasters, JD McPherson Tele setup, P90 Strats, Lipstick pickup danelectros, Cabronita Tele, etc). Would be a fun video to watch.

Some people might not be aware that the differences between these pedals are huge. Sometimes they can sound very similar, but as tools they work very differently.

I personally loved the collings 290 and the rat. Harmonicaly beautiful.

I use an old Rat that I got in the 70s or 80s into a clean amp primarily as a lead tone, and it's a really great combination of smooth and punchy. I usually set it with a bit more distortion than is pictured here. Sounds quite a bit better to me than what I hear in this video. Then again, I'm not doing a side by side comparison.

The best combo was the Collings P-90 guitar paired with the Rat. That tone was freaking sick... gonna get a rat now...

+Daniel TheGigRig Dan I have never been into Teles, always been a Strat or Les Paul guy, and always used to say that if I ever had a Tele it had to be maple fretboard.......until I heard yours!! Oh my days, that Tele sounds so tasty! With the Klon was one of my favourite combos: great initial attack and punch but with still a lot of dynamics = pure rock n roll!! You guys both rock!!!

Great show as usual guys. I'm 54, and I grew up plugging a gibson straight into a Fender Twin I had back then (later stolen) made in the early 70's. I had to crank it. We did all types of things to keep it quiet. Turn in backwards, run a fan on it, etc,. But anyway, I'm just getting into pedals again and playing. I have a Made in the UK Marshall vavlestate with a 1 x 12with a tube preamp and solid state power amp. I'm playing bridge high out put humbuckers almost exclusively. I like the clean channel and using one of the over drive channels at just break up, but I need a good over drive and boost to get into metal since I play mostly 70's and 80's metal and hard rock that still has definition. I usually play at breakup or just a little more with an over drive then need to boost the overdrive into metal.. Such as Ted Nugent, Lynard Skynard, Aerosmith, Poisen, etc, etc,. What would you recommend? Also, is it ok to use two delays before the power amp on a board? I plan on using mostly overdrive, boost, chorus, and delay as well as a morley wah. Any help would be appreciated. Will try to share your channel and sub'd awhile back. Great work and keep it up. Regards from Indiana. USA

@TheGigRigDaniel

8 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tim. You've described some great guitar sounds there, the poison one is a bit of a departure :) truth is you might struggle to nail those tones on a valve state pushed into compression. To get close you'll need something with plenty of presence and a fast attack. A klone of some description perhaps such as a RYRA or a Wampler Tumnus

@MB-yw3pv

8 жыл бұрын

THESE GUYS DID A GREAT VIDEO ON EQ PEDALS YOU SHOULD CHECK OUT, I MOVED MY EQ FROM THE END TO IN FRONT OF MY OVERDRIVE AND DIST PEDALS AND IT GAVE ME MORE OF A 80S METAL SOUND INSTEAD OF MY NORMAL MODERN METAL SOUND, ALSO CHECK OUT THE KHDK GOUL SCREAMER, ITS KIRK HAMMETS SIGNATURE OD(AND COMPANY) BUT ITS BASICALLY A TUBE SCREAMER WITH 5 MINI SWITCHES THAT HELP SHAPE TONE ALOT AND 2 OF THEM DEAL WITH COMPRESSION, I HAD THE ZAKK WYLDE OVERDRIVE BEFORE THAT AND STILL DO HAVE IT BUT THE GOUL SCREAMER IS WHAT I USE NOW, THERES A VIDEO ON THIS GUY PHILLIP MCKNIGHT'S CHANNEL THAT HAS THE LINK TO A WEBSITE WHERE YOU CAN BUILD A VIRTUAL PEDAL BOARD AND GET AN IDEA OF WHAT CERTIAN PEDALS WOULD SOUND LIKE BEFORE YOU GO SPEND THE MONEY ON THEM

@MB-yw3pv

8 жыл бұрын

ALSO IN THE US(PHILLY)

@kingslorp

7 жыл бұрын

Have you put an EHX Soul Food in front of a Rat? I'm curious as to how close the sound actually is.

@thesociophobe8425

5 жыл бұрын

Put a Soul Food in your chain. I can't explain what it does but it makes every pedal and amp channel sound better to me...by itself it's overdrive on a clean channel isn't particularly overwhelming, I use it low drive clean, but what it does to other pedals and overdriven amps is amazing. Pretty much an always on pedal for me but I do have to change the settings for style or guitar changes.

It’s funny, I definitely thought the Strat worked and sounded great with the Rat. He said that combination “didn’t really work” but I thought it sounded quite good. The Strat maintained its signature Strat like qualities- nice high end and a snappy chime but also sounded crisp and clear thanks to the gain of the Rat. I have a hard time getting “clear” sounding overdrive or distortion tones with a Strat, but their Strat through the Rat sounded pretty damn good. Great video guys!

These are fantastic guys. Give loads of great ideas. Think I need to swap my Ts808 for an Archer now.... Seriously well done - hope it goes from strength to strength

@TheGigRigDaniel

9 жыл бұрын

+Matt Davis cheers Matt ;)

@theWARMJET

4 жыл бұрын

stay with both

I've recently found your videos and binge watched them all. you guys have tremendously helped and inspired me on my hunt for great tone and understanding effects pedals better. Thanks guys, keep up the good work. :) you guys should do a discussion on buffers at some point. How many....pros and cons of where to put them.

@TheGigRigDaniel

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah, buffer video on the way. I'll do my best to make it interesting :)

That's a great video especially the fact that you use different guitars, the difference in tone is significant. Good alternative to the Klon is a soul food for all the normal budget guitarists out there

I want someone to make a Klon Screamer. Putting them both in the same enclosure would be great.

Dan’s Tele always sounds huge. That guitar rips, man.

One of the best videos so far, very informative, I'll need to watch it a few times to get it all though!! What clever chaps :-)

Great job! I'm binge watching all The Pedal Shows. Your insights on the eq of pickups and the complex interactions are the best; these videos are a college course in tone. Using 4 different guitars is brilliant, too It, also, sparked an idea. Keeley, Analogman, and JHS are modding a lot of "common" pedals. I would like to see a show about boutique makers modded pedals next to the originals. I have seen a few A/B of youtube vids, but they didn't change guitars, pickups, and ran into Pro Tools. This format is the proper format for real testing of pedals. I would throw a compressor in the Gig2 for testing drive pedals; a little light compression clears the mud and squeezes more usable dirt from OD or Distortion pedals. I used to run a Dyna Comp to a RAT2 (Gain @ 1 o'clock, Filter @ 1 o'clock, Volume @ 3 o'clock) and that is a rock tone. Thanks, I'm going to continue to binge watch and check out the phaser video!

Rat>Klon all day. I use a TS to boost a Rat to go from crunchy to lead. I use P90’s. The P90 in that Collings is not good. You need to check the pickup height. Maybe it’s a Fralin pickup. Fralin makes P90’s with sorry output.

I love your show. I do have a suggestion/request maybe ... you could do a whole show on the 808, really. It would be kind of neat, I think, to compare a vintage 808 with the reissue, the 808DX, the Maxon version, the 808 mini, and then some of the better 808 clones, too. You could probably fill your pedalboard with 808s, and still have some off to the side that won't fit! Anyway, thanks for the great show. I've subscribed to the new channel, too. Can't wait to hear that T-Rex Replicator!

@TheGigRigDaniel

8 жыл бұрын

Good call Brian, we'll get on it :)

@javiceres

8 жыл бұрын

I can tell I don't know how any pedal could sound smoother than an 808X.

Superb video. Great thoughts on the intrinsic EQ shapes and also humbucker compression difference. 👍🤘

The Tele and Klon combination has given me almost overwhelming GAS for a Tele and Klon combination.

@harrysachs2274

3 жыл бұрын

Don't forget about the amp.

You've reminded me I own a sweeeeet sounding tele that has been overlooked of late. Thanks for that! and keep up the good work. Great channel!

" If you have several guitars, some amps & various pedals.. you can plug them in & they'll make you smile! " - Correct : )

Excellent Shoot Out....very informative !

Awesome, love it! Les Paul+Ratt+Klon= Billy Gibbons!!!!! Where will the next video go?..... I'm along for the ride :-)

Klon + Tubescreamer was SO good with the strat! It may have given me an idea ;)

You guys o an awesome job, lots of fun watching and tons of learning, cheers

@TheGigRigDaniel

8 жыл бұрын

+Jon Salvador cheers Jon ;)

Thanks so much Dan and Mick for this show, I've learned so much!! :) If you guys get the chance it would be awesome if you could address the topic of ground loops, why amps and pedals buzz (power issues I guess with pedals and amps) and also high and low impedance and its relation to pedals, these are things I'm still quite confused about! Greetings from Australia! :)

@TheGigRigDaniel

9 жыл бұрын

Good call! I'll get it done :)

this rat sounds very different from mine i love mine to pieces a video on different rats would be amazing

That Collings is a BEAST. wow!!

I really noticed the Rat and LP

Nice sounds! Great video!

My favorite channel, thanks guys

Tube screamer sounded open ... really great video guys

WOW ON E BAY THERE IS THE FIRST FENDER 1963 TWIN REVERB PROTOTYPE FOR SALE FOR $20,000 AND WAY OWNED BY SOME ONE NAMED WALTER HAYNES AND IT WAS USED ON MANY BIGTIME SONGS, SEEMS LIKE IT SHOULD BE IN THE HALL OF FAME

Great show! I'd really like to see one on the advantages of boutique amps as opposed to production line amps, mostly in terms of sonics and practicality/reliability. That would be awesome.

@gabe2869

9 жыл бұрын

yes, I would watch that

keep in mind all tubescreamer users, this is far from what a stock ts 808 sounds like. its been modded heavily. a stock tubescreamer sounds way thinner than this. I have compared my stock maxon 808 to my soul food ( klone), and the ts sounds very thin compared to it. If I used a tubescreamer I would have to mod it heavily as well.

Collings p90 + TS808 was a great match!

You guys sound terrific, and your advice is great. I'm really enjoying these videos. But you have some awfully good equipment: boutique amps, custom shop and vintage guitars and (gulp) even a KLON. I'm jealous! But what can you do with more humble fare? Let's say, an American Standard Strat or Tele or a Gibson Les Paul Studio with, dare I say it, a Deluxe Reverb Reissue or even a Marshall DSL 40C? Keep up the great videos!

Dan is so expressive: if he's happy, you know it. If he's kinda sad/serious, you know it too :'(

Your rig makes everything sound great, to be fair.

love p-90's !!! so much... ;) and love your videos! Great sounds ;)

06:55 the Klon is build for humbuckers

Perhaps this could be revisited based on what has changed with amps on TPS particularly after that recent show with a Roland JC-40 which is a very different platform to compare those particular pedals on.

these guys should do pedal reviews

Tele + dirty boost pedal + Rat = tone heaven

Now's a good time to say what I think to myself during every video. Mick's Strat sounds so incredibly good. I wonder what pickups are in that Strat?

Great show!

Man this is a cool one. Thanks guys!!

Awesome video as always!

I actually preferred the Rat/Tube Screamer pair to the Rat/Klon pair. I think the TS808 is pretty close to the Klon in tone quality.

Great show, thanks guys. What about the order of the distortion/overdrive pedals - I see different views, low gain to high gain, and the other way round. I know you will say there is no one answer, but it would be great to see you both work through some options. (Also, like many have said, that Tele is fab Dan)

that collings through the tubescreamer... and i dont even like tubescreamers

@johnfritzenjr.1240

5 жыл бұрын

nepalnt2121 Yup! That sounded mega!

also next time really mess with the "treble" control on the klone, because it dosent work like a normal " TONE" control on a tubescreamer, you can turn the treble almost all the way down on a klon and it really brings forth the low mids when you push the volume a bit! whereas on a stock tubescreamer the tone control just hides the tone behind a blanket or either thins the tone out. I used to stack the ts and the klone

Gibson Les Paul Standard is definetly the most versatile and the best performance at all for me, but all are good guitars and specials

RAT through a vintage Marshall or Park amp is magic.

@TheGigRigDaniel

8 жыл бұрын

+9unslin9er yeah, agreed

Great stuff. I would love to see you guys do an episode on amp sim pedals like the Tech 21 character series. You have some lovely amps and those of us with shallower pockets would love to see some cheap alternatives.

@nedavine

9 жыл бұрын

also I should add that that Tele is ridiculous. It makes me hate all my guitars. So envious.

@TheGigRigDaniel

9 жыл бұрын

+nedavine ah, cheers mate. It didn't start off great to be honest. But Ive done over 1000 gigs on it, its really opened up. Cant beat a guitar with lots of hours on it ;)

The Les Paul and Rat combo sounded best to me. Very Billy Gibbons like.

LP and Klon is a delicious combo!

so good!