GT7’s model is insanely detailed, I can feel creators really love cars. Forza is… I can’t believe they took 6 years to make the game…

@user-hq5ep3wc4q

7 ай бұрын

I'm not a digital artist. But if I was extremely talented, I don't think I would need a love of cars to produce GTs level of detail. Some of the most famous and beautiful songs ever made are hated by the artist. It comes down to people like Kazunori Yamauchi as head director to say " make them better, make them exactly like real life. No short cuts

@nicog4638

7 ай бұрын

Stfu guy Yall fanboys always like boohoo forza models this forza models that didn't we already find out that gt7 has better car models but is worse at gameplay and lighting and those matter more to me than pausing the game and taking pictures of my car driving a car on forza feels like you driving a car the camera movement also makes it look way better even the car sounds on forza are way better but I guess yall blind and deaf when forza does everything except car models better

@VariantAEC

7 ай бұрын

​@@nicog4638 GT7's lighting is way better than FM23's never mind the actual racing being more true to life. The physics are also much better in GT7 than FM23.

@joescivic

7 ай бұрын

​@nicog4638 lol. 🤦‍♂️ Even on track during gameplay, nothing changes. GT7 car models are far superior. FM uses less polygons and has some jagged edges and looks even more plastic than ever. And then there's the ai cars looking far worse. At least on track, GT7 cars still have a lot of detail. There are even videos showcasing this. Not a lot of actual sim racers (these aren't full sim games) race in chase view. It's either cockpit, hood view, or bumper view. So the camera movement isn't an issue for us. Besides, you can adjust it to be less stiff. And you're definitely just spewing shit out of your ass every time you reply on his videos. You're just here to talk ahit because you're mad he tells it how it is while other channels make comparisons between the 2 and baby it. Ye there are you with these channels? You're just anally flustered here. Forza had superior sound for the first 6 or 7 games when compared to GT7. It wasn't until Sport and GT7 that the sounds got right. They actually sound like the real car in GT7. In FM, the cars all sound modified when they're stock. Take a step into reality, kid. Jesus, you are truly delusional. I'm currently on FM . You never answered me about that magical dynamic grip setting that doesn't exist. Lol. Where is it?????

@nicog4638

7 ай бұрын

@VariantAEC I played gt games my whole life I've had gt3 when the ps2 came out until gt7 on the ps5 and a 4k qled hdr TV and yes gt7 car models look better the lighting and physics are better in forza if you actually play the game and learn how to drive the cars the physics are better than gt7 there's even a video on KZread by a KZreadr where he compares forza and gt7 in the rain and everyone says forza looks better than gt7 even the driving experience in forza the way you see you cars back end swin unlike gt7 with a camera glued to the back of a car even the interior lighting and tracks in forza look way better than gt7 gt7 only focuses on car models and replays and photomode forza doesn't have a good replay and has car models that look like the real life car and handle more like a real car than in gt7 where's there's no grip loss when turning a corner even at night in forza the lighting is way better and more realistic than gt7 because there's lights on the real tracks it's not as dark as it is in gt7 and when you saying lighting in gt7 is better are you talking about the sun hitting the car and reflecting off of it like a mirror

Forza - Made by people that love money. GT - Made by people that love cars.

@denimpantz

7 ай бұрын

Nah, GT7 is still made by ppl who love money, but they have a soft spot for cars.

@Pickchore

7 ай бұрын

@@denimpantz - OK. They like money and love cars. PD are more than a game developer too don’t forget.

@denimpantz

7 ай бұрын

@@Pickchore I find it funny that ppl seem to forget that the launch of GT7 wasn’t exactly smooth sailing. GT7 is plagued with a lot of similar problems that Forza has. The only difference being that it’s not buggy and the devs actually care about how their product is presented. Other than that, it’s really about the same. Now I’m not saying Forza’s better, but I am implying that GT7 isn’t really that far off.

@Ridiona

7 ай бұрын

@@denimpantzyep still remember how fucking hard is it just to grind for the damn mclaren f1 to the point that i just let my laptop remote play and console on for lime a whole day for it to repeatedly grind a race because they nerfed the payouts and got major backlash over it so they had time to revert it and make it better

@virgilthemob1242

6 ай бұрын

They love money at least as much as they do cars, because I've never seen a game so hellbent on tanking the in-game economy the way they did in the first few months of GT7 just to convince people to spend real money. They did make some concessions later down the line to be fair, but farming for a 20 million credit car is still over 12 hours of work and many cars have gone up in price in the meantime.

Fun fact: this is the only remodeled car in Forza Motorsport for now, but despite this the Gran Turismo 7 variant still rules!

Don't change the way you approuch this, your blunt and don't filter anything! it's perfect!

I love the effort you put in when on the vr lol, bros crawling around on the ground to get the perfect angles 😂GT just is amazing when it comes to everything

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

bruh! sometimes I have to lie down, haha. My back's starting to feel it. 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the comment mate!

@Nite_Rider

7 ай бұрын

@@AutomotiveVP 😂😂😂 gotta get those angles 🕺

@SuPeRz4ever

7 ай бұрын

Change the floor height in the ps vr 2 settings to help

today irl, there is literally no siutation that would allow you to be this close to a 22B. Even if you see one at Cars & Coffee or a showroom, they will not let you get so close to where you can sniff it like in GT7 VR.

Seeing the real life key for that car in the ignition is so cool

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, I always make sure to check it out, hahahah. It's amazing attention to detail.

😪😪😪 I forgot to add the car engine noise sorry!

@markTK901

7 ай бұрын

Just out of interest can you compare the PS4 version of GT7 against the lazy models in FM?

@VariantAEC

7 ай бұрын

​@@markTK901 Would like to see more mobile comparisons... I'm working on one of my own currently, though it might take some time because I'm winging it, but I still want it to be somewhat fair and, of course thorough. Forza Horizon 4 and 5 maxed out on PC isn't winning some of these literal PC vs Mobile phone game comparisons. Since FH uses FM car models and CSR2 is a phone game released June 29th 2016 for Android 7 and up, the comparison should favor FH and by extension FM... Spoiler alert: textures are better in FH on PC and that's about where the good stuff ends for Horizon.

The beginning was pretty calm but after a couple of minutes it escalated pretty quickly 😂

@AutomotiveVP

6 ай бұрын

🤣🤣 Should I approach it in a more professional manner or keep it gamer-like? I'd love to hear your feedback.

@optimumplatinum2640

6 ай бұрын

​@@AutomotiveVP it's funny, but maybe for less obvious examples keep it clean,I got a laugh out of the roblox comparison line

@PolYGame

6 ай бұрын

@@AutomotiveVPkeep it like this 😂

I love how in Forza they have a showroom in forzavista with no light at all, everything is so dark, probably to hide the details lmao

@AutomotiveVP

6 ай бұрын

This is what pisses me off! I believe you're right!

It's nice to finally see people around the world waking up to the obvious gulf in quality, skill, vision, and dedication between these two franchises. I would just like to add that this has always been the case, it's just that it took people 20 years to realize that. The gap in model quality, track reproduction, overall authenticity was already there to witness back in the PS360 era. The community has finally matured and is now capable of discerning the difference. ABOUT F'ing TIME !

Wow. You weren’t kidding when I said to compare the 22B STI for Forza and GT7 👌

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@wolfenher6937

7 ай бұрын

@@AutomotiveVP Always good sir. Keep up the good work on your videos 👌

@AutomotiveVP

6 ай бұрын

Thanks mate! @@wolfenher6937

That GT7 car model, to quote one youtuber "better than factory"!

@Pekiii92

7 ай бұрын

And Forza's model looking like "Hiroshima" 😅

GT7 seriously put the damn serial number markings ON THE HUB OF THE WHEEL. They had no business doing that, but they said, "Fuck it, let's make sure we get the details correct." Like, imagine if they allowed us to pop the hoods. I can only IMAGINE how fucking detailed that would be. Also, notice how GT7 doesn't have squared off, jagged curves on circular areas of the car, whereas FM23 does. Like, is it that difficult to get extra polygons on game models these days?

@cnegi

7 ай бұрын

They said fuck it in japanese

@VariantAEC

7 ай бұрын

Seeing as how Natural Motion is doing a better job with Forzavista-like features in their racing game... I'm 100% with you that PD would blow everyone out of the water again if they started including engine bays and more interactivity. Natural Motion makes CSR Racing, which is a literal phone game... yeah... a phone game is giving you better details and a much more up close and personal look at the cars you can use in game. I'll be showing more off soon.

@anti-tryhard

6 ай бұрын

GT7 has better model details, Forza has bettter car interactability

@AllOutNoobHater

6 ай бұрын

@@anti-tryhard car intractability? What do you mean?

@anti-tryhard

6 ай бұрын

@@AllOutNoobHater Popping the hoods like you said, starting the engine in interior mode, that kinda stuff

Can't believe Polyphony even simulated the light around the cigarette lighter, talk about details. I'm regards to Sim physics it's good that u want to learn more before getting into that. If I was Id start by wet and dry lap times, real life lap times vs game lap times. The Porsche Taycan is 4 wheel drive at certain speeds or gears and rear wheel drive at higher, I think. I saw a vid dude simulated that by drifting out at low speeds in the rain, and the car would change drift style from 4wd to rwd to match the speed. Awesome I can't believe they simulated that

@VariantAEC

7 ай бұрын

Kaz is a smoker, you know (or he used to be, maybe he quit in the past 20 years)?

I wanna see an AE86 comparison with GT7 vs FM

The creator UltraViolet posed the question to Forza Motorsport " Do they still see the automobile as art? " Which is a damn good question. Because i would argue that cars are works of art. At least prio to this EV craze. There was some absolute soul and care put into the designs of the cars.

One is for those passionate about cars and who appreciate the extra effort that went into GT7 I just hope GT7 gets a further update for even better visuals and improved VR if a PS5 PRO appears

@alexkratos6558

7 ай бұрын

Imagínate el gt8 solo de nueva generación🤤🤜🤛

This 22B model is now the best one Forza has had, I don't know if it's an all new model or if they've just corrected the proportions, as I noted some of the angles aren't quite right still, like the lack of slant on the front grill. but it's an OK model now. The colour is still wrong, it looks too dark and too gray! What I do like is that I like how it looks like the plastic headlights have aged a little on the Forza model. Whether that's intentional or not, I quite like that. GTs models are in a whole new league though. Never before have I seen cars so detailed that you could swear it was real life. I know graphics aren't everything, but Polyphony has pulled out all the stops for GT7, especially after being personally disappointed by GT5 and GT6 (which I like to call GT5.5). If it had a PC version I would have snapped their arm off and I don't personally want to get a PS5 just for one or two games. Turn 10 have really let everyone down with their lies and releasing a broken and massively incomplete product.

@anti-tryhard

6 ай бұрын

What lies?

Forza was "racing game of the year." What a disgrace

@JesappelleFREDO

7 ай бұрын

😢Surtout que les journalistes des jeux vidéo ont eu des dessous table par Microsoft... Quand je voit l'horreur de ce jeu 🤮🤮🤮🤮

@claudijatzandrapova3347

7 ай бұрын

is that due to GT7 not being released last year but the year before? Forza won the most random category at TGA of sports games not against pure racers of which I only recall an F1 game being in that final round

I got my VR today, but how you can look 360° in VR showroom inside the car? I miss something in the settings?

I love this car. GT7 model looks spectacular! Does it feel nice to look at in VR? Wish I could do it!!

GT7 is ihnsane with detailing. I mean there was no need for them to detail every single red stitching on the seats and gear knob, but they did cause they wanted to make the car as close to the real world as possible. even the STI engraving on the exhaust was not needed but they did it for the love and passion of cars.

@olavofernandes7286

11 күн бұрын

That exhaust is a special from the owner of this 22b akira Teshima he is a designer at subaru sti

The best thing is I only want to play Gt7 in Vr even with reduced graphics it is the best experience ever.

I wish we could play GT7 with Path Tracing. The details are as realistic as possible, but lighting and shadows aren`t quite there yet. Probably on PS6 or maybe PS5 Pro

man this is hilarious) Are you from Ireland by the way?

Do a lot more of these roasts, please 😆🤣👌

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

Wish granted!

I fucking love your content, exactly what these people don't understand directly explained to their dumb faces... thank you for this, it is highly appreciated! ❤

well articulated sir.

@AutomotiveVP

6 ай бұрын

Thank you!

What are you running forza on? I just did the same view car and mine looks not even close to this bad on xbox series x

@2:38 are you in scapes mode here to free cam and look at the model details? I just bought a ps5 and gt7 yesterday and would like to appreciate the cars like this but don't have vr. Is this possible?

@AutomotiveVP

5 ай бұрын

No, I'm not in a 'scape mode, just VR. You can only do this in VR. But if you want a free cam, try going into the vinyl editor to view your car and change the background. It gives you some freedom to check the cars up close

@danielholland3991

5 ай бұрын

@@AutomotiveVP cheers mate 🍻 I'll give that a try.

despite the forza model paling in comparison, i still would love for them to use the upgraded model in horizon instead of the one we have now

Basically, Forza is GT7 in "low" graphics option and "built from the ground up" option activated 👍🏼

Grant Uris I needs to change tht stupid chase cam where the camera feels lol it’s stuck

This guy isn't biased at all, I promise 😮

It's amazing how much more detail GT7 has. Proof the almost 2 tera flops means absolutely nothing

It's crazy to see gt7 even add the little certification icons (ce?) in the glass of the headlight 😮 my God! I'm already getting sad how my car model looks like now 😂

Not long discovered your channel but I couldn’t help but watch every video, your commentary gets better and better every video and taking the piss out of the shit house that is forza is funny, please do more commentary in your vids

This is why car lovers make racing game. NOT JUST MONEY

I would just like them to fix their game so I can try to get 30fps I can't even get FM to go fullscreen mode on PC. I do like the fact that I can modify cars ridculiosly in FM and the generally wider variety of the cars.

Why is your framerate always low on FM2023? I run the game at 110FPS full details... (Still, it's funny how your videos made me respect GT7 so much more, now I just hope they will eventually release it on PC...)

@Victor-BRz3800

7 ай бұрын

PlayStation only... sadly

@urbanshadow777

7 ай бұрын

I think he is trying to compare console versions and keep the playing field as even as possible.

@LongTimeAgoNL

7 ай бұрын

@@urbanshadow777 oh good one. Yeah thats fair, to an extent. The PC version is not much better than what is shown here, but the lighting is.

I haven't played gt7, do they model the engines?

@AutomotiveVP

5 ай бұрын

Only in the cars you can see them from the outside.

Fun fact the 22B model in FM actually got remodeled, yet the S15 is crying in the corner

The biggest difference is that Gran Turismo uses multiple LODs in game and Forza uses only one (photo mode included). It's not really as important as it seems. How much of a visible difference it has during the game with GT's lowest LOD (level of detail on cars) and FM's only LOD?

People have been saying FM looks like a mobile game... I don't have FM23 but I do have FH3-5 and I will be comparing some of the cars in that game to CSR2 which currently can only be played on smartphones (maybe via Google Play on PC, but I'm going to use the phone version). I'm working on my first FH4/FH5 versus CSR2 car modeling comparison. Already captured quite a bit of content for the Alfa Romeo 4C, Ford Focus RS, Toyota AE86, just acquired the Toyota Supera in CSR2 today as well... the Volkswagen Golf GTI, Honda Civic Type R... probably a few others (loads of cars in CSR2). I have not decided to compare the Lotus Exige, and there are a couple of other German cars I've not captured. Additionally, I haven't captured one of the only Lamborghinis I have in CSR2. I did find the Ferrari 250 GTO... I did a comparison a long time ago (I thought I had some video of that from way back, probably captured some AR footage on my Samsung Galaxy S8 I'll have to see if that was moved to a hard drive). I can tell you one thing... FH on PC has better textures... and that is about it!

@Victor-BRz3800

7 ай бұрын

I reccomend you to check Racing master... That's a true next gen mobile game (better than motorpost)

@thealifrs4_463

7 ай бұрын

for a mobile game CSR Racing 2 has a quality on par with console/PC game only that kind of details being wasted for generic drag racing gameplay

@VariantAEC

7 ай бұрын

@@Victor-BRz3800 I've never heard of it, I'll have to look into it.

@VariantAEC

7 ай бұрын

@@thealifrs4_463 For what it is, it can still be fun. Also, unlike Forza Customs, there is a real racing event that drives the car customization hook if that's what you're in to. Honestly, I don't know why Forza Customs wasn't a drag racing game like CSR2.

@VariantAEC

7 ай бұрын

@@Victor-BRz3800 Nothing against the Chinese as people, but I can't download Chinese software because the government of China is hostile to literally everyone. Unfortunately, I won't be getting Racing Master, but it looks ok. The beta looks promising like a more interactive version of Forza Street with slightly better visuals.

Add commentary throughout

Precioso

Forza looks like a facebook market place special

Forza does not even look bad here, its only when you compare it to GT7 that you notice the quality difference. The engine bay is a HUGE plus on Forza though. This and actually opening the doors on the cars is something missing from GT7. It should definately be added for GT8, especially with the engine swaps.

@optimumplatinum2640

6 ай бұрын

Yes, FM models on average look the part, but gt has a lot of details

@fulcrum2168

6 ай бұрын

How would you model a w16 Bugatti engine on a C6 Corvette?

La prochaine fois fait une comparaison entre Gran Turismo 2 vs Forza Motorsport 8 ça sera plus équitable 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If GT VR ever gets a 'hands' update for touchable cars, other games are fucking done, mate.

Someone did a forza motorsport v super Mario cart other day 😂

The problem I have with GT7 is that I remember GT5 having more detailed interiors. A lot of infotainment systems in GT7 are blank except for a few like the ZL1 Camero. I’m pretty sure that the time on your system would sync on some models in GT5 like the R32.

@Evarakeus

6 ай бұрын

From what I've seen, cars with timers always sync to in-game time, which gives the appearance of them being frozen in a lot of the offline events because they have time progression disabled. Beyond that, though, there's definitely a lot of infotainment systems that I wish weren't blank, as well as some cars with digital display gauges (like the new Z) having a noticeably low resolution

@dewy6644

6 ай бұрын

@@Evarakeus The 2020 AMG Black Series has an ok infotainment center in GT7. I just don’t like how an R35 from GT5 has working turbo boost and steering direction indicators while the GT7 R35 infotainment is blank.

I do wanna see a forza and roblox comparison (roblox physics are shit)

@legendarykrbx5659

6 ай бұрын

Compare community’s

U ppl mistake model with a material. Both models contain same amount of details - its the material that does the thing way better in GT7.

"Forza looks like f*kn Roblox" lmao

Bruh, now I have to chose gt 7 because the radiator grille looks realistic. If you playing racing game only because the brakes looks so realistic I'm really sad of you

i feel like on some cars they just remade the taillights, or just remade the textures / shaders of the lightcase, this is very confusing, i still do not understand how a company that makes billions like turn 10, still finds a way to scrap a game that could be the gt7 rival just for having more money. like what in the hell are they doing with their billions ???????????????

@olavofernandes7286

4 ай бұрын

Gamepass hype is the cause as well as poor launch or layoff Microsoft staff to keep the company running

GT7 = Steam FM = Epic Store Games

I really cant believe how much detail is in GT7 and i never really noticed until you pointed it out ,,,, forza sucks nowadays GT7 blows it outa the water you cant deny it just look at the amount of work put into the smallest details . Screws, push pins, ext in places you think the devs would over look because they would think no one would look in this area.

Great video and great comparison, I totally agree with what you’re saying, and I’ve never even played grand turismo. However, and this is just personal I guess, the comparison could go without all of the unnecessary swearing 😂

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for your feedback! I appreciate your input and will definitely keep it in mind for future videos. I'm glad you enjoyed the comparison overall! it's my rage voice when aiming at the false claims hahah

I had to admit as a Xbox player but cars on GT7 are better 👍I saw some cars on Forza Motorsport with no logo badge 😩6 years for that? I can't believe it 😭

As a Forza fan/player, I'm incredibly mad... ...that I can't play GT7 lol

The moment where you say the detail isnt insane......... Yes Turn 180..........

В гт7 все авто как-будто только что с конвейера, а в форзе видавшие дорогу и жизнь😆

I feel like "6 years game development" and the "Built from the ground up" is nothing but bullshit.

"Build from the ground up"

@X2011racer

Ай бұрын

In the case of this car, that's true. It's not the same model from the Original Xbox anymore.

GT7 is best car graphic game every ! But Forza looks like mobile game from 2010 😂 I played games all my life and this is first time in my life I see something that ugly and disappointed after 6 years and waiting !

@SolarlfRe

7 ай бұрын

Real racing 3 is better tbh

@VariantAEC

7 ай бұрын

​@@SolarlfRe RR3 may be a better game than FM23 maybe with better physics too... though, that might be... a stretch! What isn't a stretch is saying that CSR Racing 2's car models actually look better than FH5's car models even maxed out on PC. That by extension means there is at least the HW power to have better looking cars on smartphones that T10 could deliver to PC in FM23's car models. That should be a stretch, but it isn't.

In totaal, Forza is a better game in my opinion.

@davidandrew6855

7 ай бұрын

I would say the plus and minus category for both give GT the edge, but FM 2023 is certainly not nearly as bad as some make it out to be. I do respect your opinion, something in short supply on these GT centric channels.

dude FM8 is no where close graphically to GT7, its more comparable to NFSU without the cartoon animations at best.

gt7 is literally unreal, holy cow. Would love some AC comparison with gt7 honestly! We've long established GT having the best car models on console, but I personally feel they overlap PC entries as well, most notably AC.

@VariantAEC

7 ай бұрын

So AC mods, then? Pretty sure GT7 blows them all out of the water. GT7's magic is how their engine handles ultrahigh resolution car models at high framerates. I don't know what mathematical chicanery PD is using to get that done especially on a console, but no one comes even remotely close and by no one that includes Kunos Simulazioni (the makers of AC and AC:C) at present.

Hahaha @ the 2:30 s mark I was dying laughing about the FM fanboy bots still trying to hold onto anything to claim FM is "better" than GT7. Pretty sure Digital Foundry & the last several videos comparing models has shown there is no real comparison

Thanks you for silencing the forza fanboys 😅

I've seen comparisons between GT7 and ACC now. I needn't say more.

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

What did you take away from it?

@xgz41

7 ай бұрын

@@AutomotiveVP ACC makes the car feel more like a tool, while GT7 makes the car feel more symbiotic.

@user-xh1ez7dh9j

7 ай бұрын

ACC is wank imo.

can we just further emphasize for a moment that GT7 is a 2 year old game running on a 4 year old console. This is proof that Polyphony simply cares more or that Microsoft crunched and handicapped the hell out of Turn10 (probably a bit of both.

@olavofernandes7286

4 ай бұрын

Well it's kind of true it's all depends on both console manufacture stand point

لماذا فعلت بنا لعبه فورزا هذا وذهبت بعيدا 😢😢😢 انتهت وضاعت للابد😢😢😢😢

gt7 still feels like shit when diving compared to forza lol, but it defiantly looks better

Forza is a racing simulator. GT is a car simulator with racing. If you have time, the RX-7 Spirit-R comparison! That's my all-time-favorite car, and it's available on almost everything. FH5, the new FM, GT7, and Assetto Corsa. You should compare it to real life with all of them!

@bonelesscheese8412

7 ай бұрын

Buddy just said forzas a racing sim….. Yeah u might be on the spectrum

nope, this one is completely new because the proportions are on point for the first time ever, just look at that front of course Forza has much worse details though

This is one of the models T10 has worked on over time. They overhauled it quite drastically in Forza 6 because in 5 and its predecessors it looks abysmal, like a clown car. see here kzread.info/dash/bejne/hI2Vl8d8daqsgbA.html

… from the ground up ⬆️

6 to 8 months to make a car in gran turismo.

@FlaK_09

6 ай бұрын

At least it looks sublime than Forza 🗣️

car colours in forza always messed up

Forza is a JOKE in comparison, I was a massive forza fan for years too, and don't own/haven't played GT7 at all and can tell it's far superior to Forza just in graphics/detail alone... Also just look at the state of games Xbox/Microsoft releases nowadays... starfail, redfail and others just show the lack of quality, and you can play them all on pc anyway so why bother with an xbox console if you've got a half decent PC? Personally If i was to buy a console (which I probably will for GTA6) then it would be the PS5 for sure 👍and I would defiently be picking up GT7 for it too! Great video btw mate. I've watched a few of your vids and all are excellent comparisons with accurate facts that Forza is shite and needs a serious overhaul to come close to GT7 👍

I got a headhache looking at forza motorsport with tha unreal lighting conditions.. what a SHIT

at least forza has another chance at good modeling all thanks to this car, hopefully forza will remodel the other cars that are shit

Parece más real forza

This video should be flagged as NSFW and I do recommend parents to have their kids away while watching. Seriously I still don’t get the debate GT vs Forza like, there is no debate at all. Forza may have some strengths here and there but GT7 is just on another level.

22B its only old remodeled car in FM8 i like Forza games, but 3D modeles its Joke, this is like to GT6, GT6 used models from PS2

GT is truly next gen

@AutomotiveVP

6 ай бұрын

Nothing more to be said!

Forza motorsport Vs IRacing

@FlaK_09

6 ай бұрын

iRacing clear 🗣️

Nobody can compare against build from the ground cars plus they r using old school technology turn 10 say its the best ppl want to go back not to the future 🤣🤣🤣🤣

It's a developer choice to make more detailed models based on their plans for the platform, PS supports VR while Xbox not, perhaps that's why GT7 has more detailed car models

@olavofernandes7286

4 ай бұрын

Nope it's all depends on passion

Forzas are using old models from like 2008 how is that even legal ? We should sue them or someshit

@davidandrew6855

7 ай бұрын

That may be the dumbest thing I've ever read. Why? On what grounds? I mean if you want to go down that slippery slope, we can sue just about every developer in the world for some stupid reason. When you actually play the game, you know the thing most GT fanboys here are forgetting about, it looks great and provides a decent experience. IMO, of course, I have to throw that out there before I'm attacked by the GT fanatical segment.

@zrewio

7 ай бұрын

@@davidandrew6855 you can tell that i was just being sarcastic lol , its still scummy claiming that you made a whole game from the ground up but it ended up being the complete opposite of that.

B u i l t F r o m T h e G r o u n d U p

COMPARE FORZA TO ROBLOX NEXT LOOL

Forza have not been innovative in their motorsport list of games since FM4

I've been a Forza fan since the first one and it's extremely disappointing to see how far behind it is. Yah both GT and Forza have reused car models through the years, but this is just blatant lazyness on Forza's part. 6 years for this? Seriously?

@olavofernandes7286

4 ай бұрын

In gran turismo 7 never although some cars car models have been updated from gt sport

As a big FM fan i actually appreciate these videos. So what do i like about FM? I love that you can cause insane pile ups and it has a damage model, i like being in an event and righting off my nearest competitor. Its how i enjoy it. However, back to the point, hopefully Turn10 will see these videos and know that theyve been severly caught out, this game looks nowhere near as good as the trailers we saw. It is what it is, i still enjoy it but ffs get it right next time or atleast dont lie. I will wait bfr i buy next time, i expect MS to be able to fund somethin that atleast is on par with their nearest competitor in GT. Lets not fuck about yeh, GT looks so much better regardless of how much i prefer the FM series.

There is only ONE aspect where Forza is ahead of GT7 in my opinion, and the sad part is you need to go back to FM7 to see it, because FM2023 botched it like everything else; The layers of paint and detail of paint texture. There is absolutely no question GT's car models are miles ahead, but I can't help but notice how pristine and glossy the surface of the paint looks. There are zero imperfections, no texture, no subtle reflection bounce from clear coat, it's just all at one level as if it were made of glass. If we could get GT7's car models with FM7's paint (only the paint mind you, not the janky FM plastics and rubber textures) it would be spectacular.

@evilformerlys4704

7 ай бұрын

Nope, it isn't regardless of what it think. The guys at PD are professional photographers and car enthusiasts. They spend a lot of time staring at these cars from more angles than we care to know. If it's one thing they do is have attention to detail. Perhaps you can show this detail you're saying FM7 has that surpasses GT7, because I'd like to know myself as I've never heard of it. For me the best thing FM does is layering dirt and debris on the car regardless of the race you're in, once you get to the end it's going to show build up. GT7 doesn't seem to have this on, it was there in Sport for online races as you'd see it when you view the after race final pose screen. Can't say I've noticed it on in GT7. So go ahead and give some sources so we can look for these great detailed clear coat with subtle reflections. Sounds like your looking at a slightly dirty paint job, but hey subtle reflections sounds legit!

@TheFishE77Official

7 ай бұрын

@@evilformerlys4704 If you go into FM7's Forzavista mode, go to camera, and zoom in on angles of the cars, you can actually see the orange-peel texture of thr clear coat reflecting differently from the base paint underneath. It's a well known thing with FM, one of the "Big deal" graphics upgrades they flaunted with FM5, carried over to 6 and 7. FM2023 however seems to have decided that making everything look like tupperware was better... but you cannot seriously tell me that you have ever seen the surface of a regular car's paint look as perfectly smooth and layerless as GT7. A hand painted show car with thousands of hours of wet sanding and blending? Sure. But a machine painted car off the assembly line onto a dealership lot? Not in a million years.

@TheFishE77Official

7 ай бұрын

@@evilformerlys4704 Just uploaded 2 videos on my channel showing the lighting effect I am talking about, one going over the edges of a 2015 WRX STI, the other showing the fender/hood edge of a 2016 Camaro to show the difference in light bounce from the carbon fiber hood vs the paint. I'll be uploading another shortly of a McLaren Senna, since that is a "bespoke" car and FM7 simulates the smoother texture of those types of cars paint as well. Texture is still there, but is noticeably more smooth since cars like the Senna are hand painted.

@sofaking1180

7 ай бұрын

​​@@TheFishE77Official The odd thing is, what you're talking about seeing in FM7, I've also seen when looking close enough the finish on cars in GT7 (either in photomode or your garage) . It's so easily noticeable that it's even possible to see it in compressed YT videos. It was actually one of the first things I noticed about GT7 when it first came out... that the 4k textures revealed imperfections in the coats of paint AND on the body of the car itself. The surface of an orange peel btw, is a perfect description of what the surface of a car looks like due to the application of paint. Btw, VR I don't think shows the imperfections... might be due to lower resolution?

@TheFishE77Official

7 ай бұрын

@@sofaking1180 It is an interesting question, if PD has the paint texture in "regular" modes of the car, it seems odd they'd leave it out of VR, especially when they even model the crinkles in the headrest leather or shift knobs. Either way though, it truly is shocking how bad FM2023's car models are by comparison. Even FM7's cars look so much better, I have no idea what the hell happened at T10, but I feel like this is gonna be the death-knell game for the FM franchise.