(Forza Motorsport VS Gran Turismo 7 Ferrari F8 Tributo Comparison In Depth Car Model Details kzread.info/dash/bejne/gICI08mim7XgccY.html ) | I tried something new - I added some commentary. Should I continue doing commentary or not? The only issue is that it makes the video much longer, and I don't really feel confident about it. Haha, I hate the sound of my own voice and find it hard to talk without going off on tangents about irrelevant stuff. Nevertheless, I gave it a shot. Please give feedback, good or bad; it's needed. I personally prefer watching videos without commentary, but let me know your thoughts. I won't be offended! The commentary isn't scripted; I'm just winging it! Other than that, what are your thoughts on the video?

@Medeci

7 ай бұрын

with commentary > without commentary

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

I'm a noob 🤣 > I have no clue what this means @@Medeci

@frantz4g63

7 ай бұрын

​@AutomotiveVP it's mathematically the "greater than" symbol. He's saying with commentary is better than without. I'd say, do whatever makes you feel most comfortable. And if you want to try something new, you should have the comfort and peace of mind to do so.

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

Oh yeah, it makes a lot of sense now, haha. Thank you for educating me and thank you for the feedback and honest thoughts! I appreciate it.@@frantz4g63

@frantz4g63

7 ай бұрын

@@AutomotiveVP no problem! On the good side of things, I hope your channel gets the right attention and your content continues to improve 👍🏽

Gran Turismo’s motivation is capturing the essence of cars and motor sports…Forza’s motivation is Gran Turismo.

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

The fact is, Forza originated from GT being a thing on the PlayStation platform. You couldn't have said it any better, to be honest. It was funny to read also. Hahah, thanks!

@superlight1999

6 ай бұрын

That's what you get when a real racing driver made a game

@TheGrinXpedia

6 ай бұрын

​@@superlight1999legend says Kaz totalled his R32 GT-R in the early 90s when having fun with certain legendary wangan group at night

@superlight1999

6 ай бұрын

@@TheGrinXpedia nice... That's the true car guy right there. I bet turn 10 guy never touch cars before.

@C6Z_Bob

6 ай бұрын

False. Forza's motivation is to shit out a product weather it's ready or not and cut corners to save money, hoping that people won't notice the half assed nature of their game.

You are definitely NOT biased. In many aspects I’m appalled how bad Forza looks. The lighting is genuinely the worst. Forza 5 looked better in every aspect with its lighting engine. Hell in some aspects Forza 4 looks better than the new one. Lighting is total garbage and brings the game down

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

I think they wanted to boast that they have real-time ray tracing (RT) in gameplay, trying to mock Gran Turismo's development choices. But look at The Crew 3 - the game looks beautiful and has zero RT. Well, I might be wrong, but I'm sure it doesn't have RT, and the car models are really good. The game looks brilliant, considering I was not a fan of The Crew 2. They should have left it alone; most people wouldn't even know if they added it or not. Ray tracing is overhyped and not really needed if you have a good workaround. Then, you can put more effort into the game without putting pressure on the console.

@NALTOHQ

7 ай бұрын

@@AutomotiveVPi was blown away by Motorfest. It has a beautiful setting and wonderful graphics and visuals. Need to buy the full game and soon.

@RafaelPrates707

7 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say the lighting is "bad". It definitely is more realistic if you compare it to real life, as well as the coloring. The problem really are the textures, models and reflections, as well as the TAA making the image blurry when moving and that white haze in sunlight. If they fix those, I think forza will be the most realistic looking racing game to date. They really need a specific, big update for a graphical overhaul.

@NALTOHQ

7 ай бұрын

@@RafaelPrates707 agreed. I don’t know why a 2013 Xbox One game would look better than a 2023 Xbox Series game. Here’s hoping they can address this, but i have a feeling they won’t.

@dusermiginte4647

7 ай бұрын

Best racing game this year...

10:59 the most impressive thing on GT7 is that you can see the difference between hard plastic and soft touch plastic. The car plastic is very accurate in most of GT7 cars.

GT7 just nailed it how the cars looks. You can almost feel the texture of the paint jobs

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

For real, it's like I can smell and feel the interior of the cars. It's truly a work of art.

Anyone else notice the cars in psvr2 have the real life keys in the ignition? I think that's really cool

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

The attention to detail is unreal, huh! When I first saw that, I was like, 'No, goddamn way!

@Deliveredmean42

6 ай бұрын

GT devs really love their dang details. So that is one aspect we sure do give them credit at. Which may or may not explain why each entry take so long to release.

@tilted.boners

6 ай бұрын

@@Deliveredmean42that explains why they are very slow at making new cars

@Deliveredmean42

6 ай бұрын

They basically building every detail from scratch by the looks of it. Of course the car manufacturers aren't going to give them their 3d renders of their vehicles either, so its basically working all of the finer details themselves, along side sound design and vehicle handling for each vehicles.@@tilted.boners

@GhostKnightofficial

6 ай бұрын

This reply chain is absolute gold

GT has 25 years doing this, they have created the genre. There would be no Forza without GRAN TURISMO simple.

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

I see no lies detected here! I 100% agree.

@thenuvolari9834

7 ай бұрын

When I said this on Reddit I got called a fanboy lmao, even Marco Massarutto admitted he was inspired by Gran Turismo, and there is clear inspiration of Gran Turismo in Assolutto Racing

@superlight1999

6 ай бұрын

@thenuvolari9834 assoluto fellow. Yes AR did inspired by GT but in terms of gameplay feel more like assetto corsa. Idk how to describe it.

@Kurosaka

6 ай бұрын

yes the handling@@superlight1999

@Deliveredmean42

6 ай бұрын

Polyphony sure have a long history, which nice. Altho Turn 10 devs had been making racing games since rhe year 2000, so they also have experience. But I am sure the fate of both devs diverged after 2013, one with the birth of Forza Horizon, while the other focusing more on... whatever thr GT devs did aside from macrotransactions. Turn 10 quality really shifted more in Motorsport to weirder places sadly.

The GT7 model also accurately recreates the two-stage brake lights on this car. Until the brake input reaches a certain percentage only part of the brake light illuminates. I don't know if Forza does the same but it's a crazy detail to have captured IMO.

@waterbnb7204

7 ай бұрын

gt has this since gt5 😂

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

Brilliant observation! I never even knew this. I will mention this in my crazy detail video and credit you!

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

I started GT5 again, and the models are still mind-blowing! @@waterbnb7204

@waterbnb7204

7 ай бұрын

@@AutomotiveVP Game lost to FM4 at that time, the models are mixed, the second hand cars on that game are blocky, and don't have cockpit view.

@asurada999

6 ай бұрын

​​@@waterbnb7204 i remember the effect in GT4, so it was basically implemented 20 years ago

One of my favorite small details in GT is the gas cap cover. That it isn’t 100% perfect with the rest of the body. It’s not a texture on the car, it’s a different piece that is just off in some way. Rounded edges that stuck out by a mm or two, maybe the cover is angled in by a mm. It’s looks just like on a real car. You have to really look to see it, it’s not obvious, but it’s such a crazy attention to detail that PD didn’t have to do, but did that makes the car look so true to life.

Now this car I can tell you some imperfections about FM's version and how GT7 got it right. I own this car in real life. Notice the rubber on the hood just over the headlight? That is in GT7 but not FM. The side skirt is supposed to have a red pin stripe along the bottom. In FM it is white. It's red on the other parts though. Odd. But GT7 got it right. Also, the glossy black plastic pieces around car, like the front and rear garnish pieces for instance, they're correct in GT7. In FM, they're grayed out and have a rocky like texture to them. Headlights and tails lights look like the real thing in GT7. It just looks more realistic in GT7. The paint looks like the real thing in GT7. In FM I have no idea what they're doing with car paint. Look closely at the rear "Type R" badge. It's a bit smudged on FM and also thin. GT7 looks like the real thing. The muffler is Shiney as hell and chrome in FM. Inside and out. They're supposed to appear more like a metal/titanium color, and the inside of the tips should be a dark gray/black. I can go on and on, but you get the idea

@joescivic

7 ай бұрын

I left a comment under my post but it is gone? Oh well. Maybe this one will stay. I'd like to add if anyone reads this. I'm a huge Forza fan. I've owned both GT1-GT7 and FM1-FM8 (and even FH1-FH5) and even I know that GT7 looks more realistic and has a lot more of the details correct. I'm not biased either. I just have eyes.

@FacuGonz3

5 ай бұрын

GT cars are amazing since GT5, they were before, but in this new gen PS3 PS4 and PS5, they are the BEST in quality. GT5 cars were so good that they hold up today if you go and look at them.

Kazunori yamauchi dedicated his life for granturismo and granturismo only, this is not just a game but someone passion His work is not a joke, he listen to critics and fully support the community

@AutomotiveVP

6 ай бұрын

I discuss this in my upcoming showdown video, which has been in the works for quite some time-haha, you're absolutely right! Additionally, he's involved in racing cars and photography, which is definitely a plus.

You're doing a great job with these comparisons. I don't know why ppl keep accusing you of being bias.

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for your feedback and motivation, it means a lot! They always say I'm using a low-end PC or Xbox Series S, so I made a reply video. However, not one of them replied; they just continued to argue with the fans of GT in the comments instead.

@torezgermy2

7 ай бұрын

@@AutomotiveVP At this point you don't need to prove anything to them. Just keep the videos coming.

As someone who owns an ‘18 Type R, driving one in GT is like getting in my own car; extremely familiar, Forza’s is like someone else’s Type R; mostly the same but the details are a bit different.

@watersnortmoment3734

6 ай бұрын

Gran Turismo is a little bit closer to being a true simulator, it’s not all the way there, but it’s less arcadey than Forza. Forza was made almost entirely with controller use in mind, GT seems to have been developed with wheels and controllers both in mind.

GT7 Nailed the FK8 perfect. During the VR portion it gave me some nostalgia when I still had one. One thing to note, is that the "blocky" look of the tires is actually how the factory tires look. They have notoriously small rubber band tires with tiny side walls. They don't have a bulging look like the GT7 tires.

As a Forza fan I have to agree, FM4 was to me the epitome of a car arcade type game and the levels of content was unmatched even by GT. Then coming back to FM8 I must say they focused it seems on online racing which I actually enjoy and the game delivers and can definitely improve over the next year.

I cant believe how good GT7 looks in VR. I didnt know you can view the car in scapes while in VR. Simply beautiful

Great vid highlighting both games!! VR is mind-blowing!! continued success~

It's clear that Turn 10 made the Trailer "from the ground up"

@AutomotiveVP

6 ай бұрын

100% hahaha

I did automotive renderings for the car industry for a while and my eye is trained to look for details and correct visual representation of textures and finishes and when I played GT7 on the PS5 I was truly amazed at how well done it is and if you would give it just a little bump in resolution and realtime shading it would be photoreal and useable for professional use. Looking at FM8 it might be okayish for the average gamer but to me it is just disgusting. Metals like chrome etc. ALL look like plastic. It reminds me of how my renderings looked like in my first year.

The fact that Forza Motorsport got motorsport game of the year is heinous

Am I the only one who bothers by FM cars don't have license plate. It just looks weird. 😅

gran turismo has always been about true passion for motorsport. those who shittalked it when it came out are now seeing it

Gt7 car models, paint and lighting is on another level, its like comparing a ps5 gen game to a xbox 360 game

that sniff on the seat killed me

My man when you said you can smell the seats I lost it lmaoo 😂

It’s like one is real life, and the other is a cartoon interpretation.

when you were talking about the wheels. I believe that gt uses a lower poly model in races which accounts for the wheels too. Since they probably figured the car would be in motion anyways, we wouldnt mind the wheels being lower res and poly count. Im not sure about forza though because i dont play the game but i would assume theirs is a low poly version as well just not as low poly as gt's. so while the wheel model looks better in the replay for forza, the lighting or something doesnt look natural when hitting the wheel. I want to play forza motorsport to see how enjoyable the career mode is compared to gt7 because I've enjoyed what gt7 has had to offer. I've almost completed the game completely. but I really dont want to pay $70 for forza, especially in the state that it is in now.

if it looks bad on your Series X, imagine how it looks on my little Series S 😢💚

@Majaweed17

6 ай бұрын

It looks ight. If you don't focus on every minute detail on the cars

@growingup4487

6 ай бұрын

​@@Majaweed17lighting is awful on all platforms

@rosaria8384

5 ай бұрын

It's just that awful sadly. Even a beefed up PC won't even be that good.

imagine if gt7 was on pc man, assetto community would milk the car models within a few years 😂😂😂

Gt pretty much does everything better. I say that as someone who left gt to go to forza and was in the top 100 for car designs in forza 3 and 4. I came back to gt for sport and gt7 on ps5 just leaves forza in the dust. I have never fell through the map in gt.

The way you say Don't at 8:30 absolutely sends me 🤣

As a Xbox AND Ps player GT7 is Leading by miles no discussion.

I never saw the VR showroom in GT7 before! Im speechless!

This is a very good video, keep it up 👍

@AutomotiveVP

6 ай бұрын

Thank you! Means alot!

Not gonna like i thought the footage at the start for GT7 was irl stuff with a go-Pro lol.

Man imagine if there was no Gran Turismo , just Driveclub and Forza lol

@Deliveredmean42

6 ай бұрын

To be honest. I don't think we wouldn't have either. It will have been a different landscape. GT did have a major impact in approaching simulation racing games at the time.

2:30 I would give this one to Forza because the brake caliper should be in the shadow. Overall the lightning is more realistic with Forza in that case.

Such a shame that the Forza trailer didnt end up being representative of the final game. Even the track detail we saw never made the cut. Ive always prefered Forza, but you have to be honest, car models in the latest Forza arent as good as in the latest GT. Im not even sure theyre as good as previous Forzas tbh, i could be wrong about that i havnt compared, but i know for me personally its a disappointment. Do i enjoy the new Forza? Yeh i do, but its another damn shame its so low on content, Forza used to have an abundance of content, but now you have to wait for an update just for something new to do, and you'll do that in an evening potentially.

The commentary is fine, your voice is okay, nothing wrong, the video asked everything clearly only Forza fanboys are biased, because u have to detach logic & ignore visible evidence. GT is car porn at it's finest and it's really mind-blowing how they get the models so real,, without u saying it's VR, u can't tell it's not real life

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment and feedback; I really appreciate it! I totally agree with you. Before starting this channel, I didn't encounter much 'fanboy' behavior, though I had seen it around. This was a small part of why I wanted to create the channel-to counteract that. Now, I get attacked with some of the worst logical statements known to man. It genuinely makes me wonder: are these people just fanboying, or do they truly believe what they say? Half of their arguments make zero sense. The VR part of GT is a masterpiece, and it's strange how Sony has hardly done any marketing or pushed it out there! It's a strange choice.

If anything sold me on realism, it’s how the headlights and tail lights in GT… Everything else I can see how it’s 3D rendered, but the reflections and depth in the lights…. just WOW

I say with no exaggeration that the clip at the beginning of the video looks like it was shot in REAL LIFE

GT Staff are in a class of their own! & Let's not forget the other half of the AV equation, the audio is amazing aside from making turbos more audible then they should be(all games overdo this, GT not as egregiously)it's an eargasem galore, I can literally hear differences on the tire going over painted asphalt when focusing enough, it's impressive how much detail is there once you add some depth to augment your flatpanal's sound

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

The team behind GT are masterminds! Did you know that when you drive on gravel and return to the track, you can hear the stones stuck in the tires as well?

@ChroniclesofKToyoda

7 ай бұрын

absolutely you can see the loose stones for a while too

@MrSirGiuseppe

6 ай бұрын

Every video of the car sounds I've seen, both games get it wrong but forza sounds closer to the real thing.

@ChroniclesofKToyoda

6 ай бұрын

Lol, [presses (×) to doubt]🤣

Im a forza fan, always have been, but god damn gt7 has 100% shown how behind turn 10's engine is

1:25 "It looks like LEGO" I was thinking exactly that before watching the video.

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

🤣

Not even an entire minute my first race i noticed i couldn't even see the suspension in any cars that even had a open bay it was just black specks in-between the tire and chassis

Problem is GT update their car models every new game but forza just keeps reusing older models from older forza games

As a long time forza fan, GT7 is the clear winner hear. I feel like ever since the release of FH5 there hasn't been any good graphical innovation since 2021

I was so disappointed with Forza Motorsport that I went ahead and bought a PS4 Pro, GT7, and a year sub to PS Plus.... Three days later and I've already finished the GT World Cup, and that's only playing after getting back from my 9-5 job. Felt like I was back in my teens playing GT4. I'm gonna sink so much time into GT7.

@Crook3d_GT

6 ай бұрын

Get a wheel!

@miragespl

6 ай бұрын

@@Crook3d_GT It's not the physics that I'm disappointed in. In fact, I'd say it's the one thing I WASN'T disappointed in. It's everything else that really let me down.

@Crook3d_GT

6 ай бұрын

@miragespl no I'm saying get a wheel for gt7! It adds so much to the immersion

@miragespl

6 ай бұрын

@@Crook3d_GT Oh, that's my bad! I do plan on getting one, sometime early next year hopefully!

I used to only have an Xbox and played most of the Forza games regularly. A few years ago I got a PS4 and started playing GT Sport and really enjoyed it. Now I play GT7 on PS5 and haven’t looked back.

You forgot to repaint the hood and rear spoiler on the Civic in GT7 😉 Other than that again a good comparison. A lot of objectivity and not fanboyism.

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

To be honest, I noticed that at the very last minute because I thought to myself it must come like that stock. And if I'm honest, I was too lazy to check and do the rework on the video. But I will definitely now make sure I fully take the time to check the cars. I always pick the same manufacturer colors though; this time, it must have just slipped past when I changed it to white.

Should do one on something like the Valkyrie. So you know its a brand new car model they just added to see if this generation of car models is better than the last.

As a diehard forza fan that’s owned every single one minus the most recent forza, gt7 is leagues better. I would love to see an open world GT based in Japan

Honestly GT has always looked better. Funny thing is Forza Horizon looks way better than Motorsport somehow

I run the PS5 and GT7 with my PC setup, 4k 32" monitor and Fanatec CSW 2.5 wheel with V3 pedals and Fanatec shifter and really appreciate the details it has compared to most other titles. It's a bit like the higher end details in various flight sim aircraft, if only we had proper options for the cockpit view for monitors with height adjustment and FOV as some of the camera placements make no sense.

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

Amazing setup, mate! Some great runs to be had. I couldn't agree with you more, especially when Driveclub was doing it in 2014. It's not like GT has details to hide. I mean, we can adjust a little bit, but I would love more freedom, especially in VR. Although I have a small workaround to get seated in the right place for VR.

@TheGrinXpedia

6 ай бұрын

dude, get a PSVR2, it's going to blow your mind fully playable in all modes, including Sport!!!!

@loophole3526

6 ай бұрын

You should just get a drive hub and reduce your latency. I run a standard CSL DD 8nm (not the pro that is PS certified) with CSL elite V2’s and love it.

I remember in GT5, Polyohony managed to make the premium cars so good it was almost impossible to distinguish still images from real life images. In GT7 they managed to make you question reality in motion. The GT series has stepped up so much over the years and with each installment. Forza stepped up a lot too, and it was a very innovative series. But then it just stopped. It's like they just stopped caring or something. I wish someone had a video about what the fuck happened.

10:40 onwards alone has convinced me to upgrade my PS4 Pro to a PS5 with PSVR2.

I agree I get stuck in vrshowroom all day! Its uncanny

Using the showroom is no excuse to showcase "better" visual fidelity. Out on the racetrack and during gameplay is where it matters most, and forza fails at that. In order for Forza to get GT7's quality, you'd have to open up your own 3rd party app to post process and clean up the photo. GT7 is the real deal.

Why is spoiler and the hood of Civic are more grey then white?

Finally someone with common sense and eyes... Idk how anyone can say forza looks better. If i watch a gt7 race back its like im watching a real race, and i've seen some real racing in my life.

Forza: High Settings. GT7: Ultra Settings + VR

You said “plasticky.” This is the description I was looking for when I finally made the switch to Forza from GT back when FM4 came out. Why did I make the switch? PS3 got YLOD and I had FM3 experience - Forza allowed a bit more freedom and expression in car mods and paint. Loved it ever since BUT that “plasticky” look always stuck in comparison to GT.

ABSOLUTELY SAVAGE COMMENTARY 🔥

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

it's a pity that without VR you really can't see and appreciate most of this,especially inside. surely you can take a perfect photos,rotate camera in photo mode,but thats not even close.

@AutomotiveVP

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'm not sure why people without VR can't go into the same room and check the cars also. Maybe it's a marketing tactic to encourage people to buy the PS5 and PSVR2.

lmfao he said he can smell the car @11:10 good video.. this make me wanna get gt7 i was a fan of both but gt7 looking good!!!!!!!!!!

As someone who works in 3D art and material creation with an emphasis on photorealism and has never played either of these titles, I agree with the sentiment. This is mainly because it seems that the Forza textures create a lesser sense of visual variance, which can even be seen in some of the asphalt textures. However, it comes off like the Forze devs forgot that cars often are typically very glossy and metallic objects when creating the textures. It also feels like there's a lesser emphasis on micro details and imperfections, which I think contributes to that overall artificial look to things in Forza with less aggressive use of normal maps. However, I have to wonder if this was a development-related thing with having to also optimize for the Series S console in mind.

Forza is still using all car models... I'm a Forza fan and I agree with you.

Gt would be crazy if theyd just make an open world aracade, imagine driving around miami in vr

My buddy owns this exact Type R and when I put him in PSVR was BLOWN AWAY! He said he felt like he was sitting in his real car. If Playstation can build upon this, the future is going to be very bright.

GT Looks like a real life photo was taken by a professional photographer

If i'm not mistaken, Polyphony re-models the cars for each game (Or just for the new generation) while T10 and PGG just recycle old models from previous games. No doubt this Civic model is from FM7, May 2018 to be precise. A lot of models in Forza games are from the 360-era games, a few even go as far back as the first game.

@butteredbean8686

6 ай бұрын

Polyphony used PS2 models in GT5 & 6, but scrapped and remade everything, including PS3 original models, for Sport. They reused Sport models in 7, but T10 is still using Xbox og models

I paly both games. They each have their pros and cons. But yes, in terms of graphical detail, accuracy, color and lighting, GT7 remains the gold standard!

@quells2119

5 ай бұрын

there's literally no pros to FM compared to GT7

Forza fell off, basically ever since horizon the games have been passable at best. I care way more about sounds, content, and driving feel than visuals so I won't ever bother getting a ps5 just to play GT7, but it is hands down the best looking racing game right now. AC1 is where I'm going to be spending all of my time unless ac2 actually turns out well.

tdu solar crown is going to be interesting

Are you from up north?

The video comparison is fine with commentary, but what will really stick the point is showing pictures or video of the actual car. The part when you said the headlights were pretty good in Forza would have been inaccurate if you had a picture of the real thing.

Video does not do justice to how mind-blowingly realistic VR mode is in GT7, tire rubber looks so real you just wanna reach out and touch it.

GT7 is Miles ahead, BUT, just to be fair, there's some old models from GT5 and 6 from the PS3 era, with minor upgrades such as wheels and material shaders. I still have a PS3 and I mande my own comparison with the switching of HDMI ports, they are a perfect match. But even those old models look good, on par with other current games on the market, including Forza 8.

@thehwguy4293

6 ай бұрын

Yeah, apparently PD went overkill with the polygon count on those premium models.

@TheGrinXpedia

6 ай бұрын

ahhh yes, the 458 Italia. lmao

Gt7 is incredible Im excited to see how GT8 will look

Better versus video than digital foundry's versus video..

WOW THANKS FOR THE COMPARISON! tbh you can appreciate GT7 models as an art in terms of details, texture and depths of everything. while Forza is still good, in term of being avideo game.

Well in Gran turismo 7 the cars are much much better, acording to details. Maybe the sounds on race time sound kinda way to long, from the distanse between car and road. I don't know why they did this, at least i realise the car sounds are much better on first person camera! But yeah i agree with what you said.

We need both worlds combined. The visual fidelity from Polyphony and the physics engine from T10. Great comparison and i totally agree. GT wins here with miles ahead based on facts. Cheers ✌

this forza motorsport was one of the greatest fallens in gaming industry, such a good studio bringing such a loved game franchise to ground level is really hard to believe

@ZulRf

5 ай бұрын

Well it was made from the GROUND up, of course it would be close to GROJND. Lol

@tensa.02

5 ай бұрын

@@ZulRf you probably felt so funny saying this

Until recently I used to only have a ps3 and a 360, so I thought those graphics were good, then I played new games and now anything above the first version of gta 5 looks like real life to me

Before even seeing GT7, I could instantly tell that the interior was wrong. The infotainment screen was wrong and had ZERO buttons to it. I was even thinking “Isn’t the gear knob on Type-R’s typically a silver, aluminum?” And sure enough, I was right 🤣

I'll be honest, I've been playing Forza since the first edition, and I've always been a fan of the Forza Motorsport franchise. However, I've always been fair to the aspects that made me prefer Forza over Gran Turismo. I remember that Forza 4 was a leap in technology for introducing, perhaps for the first time in a game, photorealistic scenarios. And it just opened my mind, I remember seeing such small details in car interiors that I couldn't believe it was being played on an XBOX 360. Gran Tursimo has always been a game that I admired, but the physics of the cars and how the game's entire mechanics worked didn't satisfy me. But being realistic, I can say without a doubt that the new Gran Tursimo stands out far above the new Forza Motorsport. Some aspects that I take to support my opinion are the graphics, details, sounds, interface and immersion in terms of virtual reality. Currently for myself being a Forza player for over 18 years, Gran Tursimo is my Racing Game of choice currently.

In showroom mode, GT7 looks real. It just does. It looks 100% real. Some say ray tracing is a gimmick but then you see visuals like this... and some don't care about how cars look and visuals at all and that's fine too but I do care

Total car details go to gt7 but for as doing well on the wheel models. That’s exactly how Honda type r brakes look like after wear.

Truthfully when I look at car games I'm more for realistic graphics realistic engine sound with all upgrades the sound is exactly as you would have in real life

GT7's details are unmatched.

I grew up playing GT3 and GT4. I've always considered GT the top tier of racing games (on console). I have an Xbox Series S, and Forza is what led me to finally go back to PlayStation and play GT7. The two games are night and day, and they aren't even close.

Forza Motorsport 4 was peak. From Forza Motorsport 5 onward was the beginning of its downfall. How they can’t make a game better than Forza Motorsport 4 is beyond me…

Cars in Forza Motorsport look like they scanned Hot Wheels versions of cars instead of real ones

The gt7 civic probably had racing tires on which have that smoother look and tread the comfort tires and other do have the tread and not as smooth side walls

Gt7 is my first ever GT and playing it on the ps5 with a gaming wheel with a manual stick and pedals fuck it feels realistic asf 😂 love how they keep on updating the game monthly but the difference between forza is crazy but I love what forza is doling with a open world wish gt7 has something like that

i want to see Forza on highend PC setup. Although GT is perfect in car models i can't argue that...

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This is ultra maxed out. Yea it’s hard when you’re next to GT kzread.info/dash/bejne/gICI08mim7XgccY.htmlsi=zCpF8YPLfgVW4mu0.

Gran Turismo is a stunning beautiful life like game. When forza, which looks good too in some scenarios, lacks the models and shaders + some love for it

I think it’s hilarious how some people can defend Forza. I’ve played most of the Forza games and I thought FM4 was cool, and hey the Horizon games are great. But the graphics SUCK in comparison to GT. The light source is sitting in front of the headlight too, you should definitely check that out too. I’m 99% sure it’s that way in this "built from the ground up" game too. GT is a polished game. Always had the best car models and lighting. And now it even has better sounds than Forza, no more vacuum cleaners. (I’d still like to try this new Forza game but I’m not sold on the idea yet)

we need open world racer of gt