Your advice to keep the wrist static at the end of the movement and holding it is absolutely correct. That’s where the strengthening develops.

Agreed. I just went back to basics. I kept getting my hand/wrist taken. And I had completely let my wrist training go thinking my other lifts were hitting the area but definitely not the case.

Since I saw those wrist curls on this channel Ive been always doing it and its my favorite forearm exercise. Its incredible the improvement Ive got from it and now I love my forearm days, yet still have a lot to work on. Thanks a lot

@dragonballthings688

Жыл бұрын

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Plus wrist curls done this way make your wrists and forearms bigger like nothing else, so everyone should want to do them

great video. sometimes people forget to do the basics, but often the basics are the basics because they work really well

I won't bitch about it, thanks for the reminder.I 'm 70 years old but always trying. Thanks !

So glad to see this video, I am the same, have to put so much work into hand/wrist/fingers but it definitely helps me. Also Ray you are looking strooooong bro, all the best in the upcoming match with Ryan, very excited for it.

Thanks for this video! I’m definitely going to do these now!

The honesty is great.

Thank you your videos absolutely help💪💪💪

great video and advice! i agree! volume and the first rep and the last should look the same. this important!

This is nice educational content for Ryan Bowen for his upcoming match. :)

@dsm5083

Жыл бұрын

Lol, I think it’s going to be a tough match for both guys

Great Advice. JUST DO THE WORK. THANK YOU for showing us how and why.

Great video Coach Ray 💪

Love forearm training . I always had good forearm strenght.

Nobody asked but the wrist curl is actually my favorite exercise.

Great content keep it up thanks for sharing

@voiceofarmwrestling

Жыл бұрын

Thank you too

You armwrestlers should defnently follow rays advise, wrist and hand training are an absolute must! Ray you are strong by the way, impressed!

Great tips

Крутое видео. Спасибо Раймонд!!

Really needed this, get really bored with the forearm exercises I had been doing.

Thanks bro

People dont realize that pro athletes only max out on lifts a few times a year.. working at 60% of your max is gonna make you way stronger than always trying to max. Not only you wont get hurt but you will gain alot more.

@2DReanimation

Жыл бұрын

But then there are people progressing in strength with unique methods like super-heavy negatives -- you've got to find your own way, always. Listening to your body is key. Pro athletes would include Devon, and he did/does super-heavy holds and negatives, IDK how often, but much like the Russians.

@jwaw8145

Жыл бұрын

Not true

@moneybitches4796

Жыл бұрын

Avoiding injury is why, nothing else. Less injury = more training overall.

@Kalevi0

Жыл бұрын

Working at 75%-85% is better for strenght training.

@DimiArt

Жыл бұрын

Which pro athletes work at 60% max?

Its the same with all muscles we use all the time like stomac, back and the calfs...they need ALOT of work to get "stronger"

thanks

Preach, Coach, preach

thank

Love your attention to the basics! Great channel!

@voiceofarmwrestling

Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Wrist hand and fingers seems so important. In practise I normally find if I am weaker than my opponent in these areas I have no chance

Quality!

Thank you for the advice wrist strength from arm benders wrestling club in New Zealand

@voiceofarmwrestling

Жыл бұрын

💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻

What do you recommend if you’re getting table practice in once per week? I’ve been training for 5 months and I’m way too sore to lift weights for at least 3 or 4 days and then it’s time for table practice again.

You should look up this guy called “old school strength.” He’s not an arm wrestler but he’s really enthusiastic about training his neck, forearms and calves. He teaches this awesome wrist curl variation called the Scott curl(pretty sure lol). I started wrist curling 2lbs a few years ago and I’ve recently done two sessions where I used 60lbs! This wrist curl uses a lot of range of motion. I’m super proud of myself 💪

Yes, Ray I agree, Ryan Bowen should lift lighter with better form. Good video!!

Ray, is it safe from the injury perspecrive to go really heavi with these dumble barbell curls? Sometimes it looks like that someone wrist is going to break when doing such an exercies with heavi weight.

Be strong like bull!

What's your thoughts on training with grippers (captain of crush etc.) for armwrestling? I've seen mixed opinions on this from pros.

@Nightball12

Жыл бұрын

Waste of time, fine for fun.

@voiceofarmwrestling

Жыл бұрын

As a main thing for armwrestling they are a waste of time. As a supplemental for extra work they will help, but what they develop is crushing strength, not containing, not cupping or rolling. They will help when you need to have forearms working but they don`t transfer the strength to armwrestling.

@EmilBBechGrip

Жыл бұрын

@@voiceofarmwrestling That's kinda what I thought but always good to have an expert like yourself confirming it. Appreciate the reply.

@NoMercy1444

Жыл бұрын

I Train for 2 jears Armwrestling im not the Strongest and Ma Hand is My weakness, 3 months ago i kill a grip national Champion

@EmilBBechGrip

Жыл бұрын

@@NoMercy1444 Good stuff man, I guess the lesson is that nothing beats specific armwrestling training. Which of course should be obvious.

reminds me of those people who do hip training while standing and called it a bicep curl

Wrist Curl ( 26 kg for reps, i don't have more plates to add to dumbell to make it heavier atm), Reverse Wrist Curl( toping out at 18 KG for now wanna avoid injuries), Hammer Curl( toping at 16kg atm also to stay injury free ), Gripper ( 40 kg resistence about 45-50 reps when fresh or if i do as ending excersize ) is my current set of excersizes i am doing ( been training my core for about 1 month now with these 4 ) i will be slowly adding more AW oriented things in future, Levan vs Devon really got me pumped to try my self out in semi pro and maybe even PRO Aw in future but i don't wanna rush it will take about 3 years before i try tournaments.

@WilliamAstromAW

Жыл бұрын

Are you pulling with a team? If so there is no reason to wait 3 years just to get smoked in your first tournament.

@FOTON_FOREVER

Жыл бұрын

@@WilliamAstromAW I am solo for now but will find some sparing partners in due time

@FOTON_FOREVER

Жыл бұрын

@@WilliamAstromAW all i want is to strenghten my core so i can avoid any disasters once i start puling

@WilliamAstromAW

Жыл бұрын

@@FOTON_FOREVER Okay nice! Gym training is nice but you’re really gonna need the table time to learn the mechanics.

@FOTON_FOREVER

Жыл бұрын

@@WilliamAstromAW that is coming hopefully in 5 months to a year from now i will see rate of my gym improvements before hitting sparrings, i am lucky to know a pretty big dude that used to pull on competitions that lives few streets from me also i'm close to my Capital city and i saw that there is quite a few ppl in 50km radius from me that use arm bet so i do have plenty of choices for practice pulling when i start doing it :)

Hi.you say do wrist curls every day. if we do every day wrist curls in diffrent angels then when to recovery? how wrist can recover every day?

New Year's resolution: No bitching, just put in the work.

I have the enormous orange fat grips, would these be too thick or would it still work just as well?

Do you think wrist curls are better for building wrist strength than using a multi-spinner?

@bchep6761

Жыл бұрын

Do both. Supinated Multispinner against high pulley, wrist wrench at different angles and fat db wrist curls.

@ChrolloLucilfer44

Жыл бұрын

When you're using a "multi-spinner" you are basically doing a "wrist curl",

can i do this work out 3-4 times a week for high reps and sets will this help or do i need to do this once a week for high reps high sets i need to main this work out because i never did these i can leave out others for a bit because i worked on them for years longer

Is there a possiblility to ask questions und a Personal meetup, Can you Book something like that?

Looking great coach

Can I do this this exercise everyday

Strong wrist =win

For wrists, I do around 100 reps with the best weight to accomplish this movement. BLOOD-FLOW is how you build tendons, intrinsic muscle development is what’s most overlooked.

@vitalysaginashvili6419

Жыл бұрын

Stop bro, I used to do 100 reps for 3-5 sets everyday when I first started thanks to Devon, I ended up with flexor carpi ulnaris tendinopathy from overuse and now basically half of my flexor doesnt work, Im now doing isometrics to reignite the tendon function, my advice is stick to training every other day with reps of 5 to 15

@texnpjel2450

Жыл бұрын

​@@vitalysaginashvili6419 damn

@lecongthai1126

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@vitalysaginashvili6419 Thanks for sharing

@justaguyfromreddit

9 ай бұрын

Blood flow is a bullshit, it is just going to hurt you

KZread algorithm boosting comment 💪 ... Jerry: "hold my beer 🍺"

Is it better to do wrist curls with back pressure as that is what u would need on the table?

@RDS_Armwrestling

Жыл бұрын

You can hit wrist curls in any way you like, as long as you hit them

Can i only do wrist wrench? I don't have dumbell at home hehe

My wrist actually pop from tendon issues. Should I do this? I typically I use a bench or my knee when I do wrist curls. Why do you do it from that angle? Dose it put less pressure on the wrist?? I am curious.

@nahyanrajee198

Жыл бұрын

My tendons used to pop too, until I focused more on reverse wrist curls as I heard that muscle imbalance can cause tendons being whacky and sliding around. Also, you can reduce range of motion to avoid tendons popping

@jordanfinch7671

Жыл бұрын

I have lifted a lot of heavy weights and genetically my wrist aren’t that big. I don’t wear wrist wraps because I don’t like they way they cut my circulation to my hand. I do reverse wrist curls with a kettle bell on a preacher bench and yet they still pop. I can actually pop the tendon by pushing my fingers into my wrist. I got it checked but there’s no structural damage. So my wrist can’t be weak. I am just guessing it’s from years of have curls and just lifting heavy in general.

@nahyanrajee198

Жыл бұрын

@@jordanfinch7671 well damm man, it's really annoying when my tendons pop. I hope Ur issue gets resolved soon

Any advice on the opposite movement (I.e. wrist extension). If you’re focussing a lot of time on wrist curls, how much time do you spend on the antagonistic movement to prevent imbalance?

What can we do for elbow pain ? There is a pain in my elbow and sometimes, it hits bicep or tricep. Please help.

@muhammetali7814

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I hope it will work

@Rookiebookem

Жыл бұрын

Keep pulling, practice with your club once a week, don't pull at 100% intensity at practice the whole time. This will hurt your elbows badly. Eventually they will build the strength and won't hurt after practice. It comes on fast so once they hurt at practice, stop pulling

@muhammetali7814

Жыл бұрын

Thanks you all for the tips. I can say that 60-80 percent of my pain is gone. The most effective workout for my pain was, working pronation and rotation with hammer. If you have the same pain, working with hammer really helps.

Coach , where is your gym?

And levan do 100 kg wrist curl 🙂

@darthvader7886

9 ай бұрын

Who asked? Btw that's the thing that put him out of the game recently

4:49 LOL

Any difference in how you grab the fat grip (thumb over or thumb under?

@RDS_Armwrestling

Жыл бұрын

It makes a small difference, sometimes it's more comfortable one way than the other.

How often an arm wrestler should train their bicep, forearm, wrist, etc?

Is it okay to have soreness just above the wrist in the forearm instead of the big muscle belly closer to the elbow? I trained them yesterday and want to train them every day, but I don’t want to go overboard.

@GamersOnTheStorm

Жыл бұрын

ye the pronator quadratus

@Guitarist19887

Жыл бұрын

Take it easy, don’t rush and injure. Slow gains are better, always avoiding injury. Rest your forearms if you aren’t used to it, try once a week then add more days if you can manage?

Mini levan in the making🌝🌝

Is it better to do wrist curl with dumbells?or landmine barbell?

@andsed1083

8 ай бұрын

dumbell

@michelskaff3302

8 ай бұрын

@@andsed1083 okay thanks but what about cables?

I do

@thedrew24

Жыл бұрын

U doodoo 🦊🎱 😎

@Fox8ball.

Жыл бұрын

@@thedrew24 idpovoodoo 😂😂💪♥️

@thedrew24

Жыл бұрын

@@Fox8ball. I set trap for 🦊🎱 😁

@Fox8ball.

Жыл бұрын

@@thedrew24 😁😁😁

I have really bad wrist flexor tendonitis, so my dream is just being able to do wrist curls

@gerardt3284

10 ай бұрын

(my wrist is much better now... phew)

@susingdfff

4 ай бұрын

​@@gerardt3284😂😂😂 ok my wrist is super strong from naturally actually it is very thick and strong also

Can I train them every single day Will it affect me 🦾❤️

OK ! EVERY DAY ? OR 2X A WEEK ?

please beat bowen 6-0 for the memes

@anuragrajashekar68

Жыл бұрын

He will

Ray what's your bodyweight?

@voiceofarmwrestling

Жыл бұрын

90

@TimmyTurner421

Жыл бұрын

@@voiceofarmwrestlingWow you're already on weight for your supermatch

@anuragrajashekar68

Жыл бұрын

Ryan is nearly 100 lol not much weight difference between these two

Plese legenda em português ( Brasil ) Obrigado

Wristcurls is to Barbell curls what Manual Hand washing of clothes (mouthful) is to Chin ups 🤷🏽‍♂️

Cup>Riser>Pronator In terms of priority. Of course they are all important.

@vitalysaginashvili6419

Жыл бұрын

Used to believe in this but now I beg to differ, u can win without cup (flop wrist sweep, flop wrist press), but without pronation u'll be vulnerable cuz it's the key to defense, if u go 0 in pronation ur arm will get oversupinated and it's all over

@justaguyfromreddit

Жыл бұрын

Pronation >>>> rising

@vitalysaginashvili6419

Жыл бұрын

@@justaguyfromreddit agreed, rising is just half of the game, if one prioritizes rising over pronation it will be very vulnerable to getting deep-hooked with ulnar deviation/chopping pressure which takes the rising completely out of the match

I am gifted with bad genetics, short forearms and fingers, also weak...cupping is my weakest thing right now, i am doing more cupping exercises then anything else and i still can't get it stronger :/ maybe i should be doing them more then 3-4 times a weak? Does pinch grip holding a plate helps with finger strength at all?

@Siberius-

Жыл бұрын

These things take consistent effort over time. Also eating enough food. Short forearms means better ability for a posting back-pressure kind of movement, which is very important in armwrestling. Always advantages and disadvantages.

@pRiMeAndRhyme

Жыл бұрын

@@Siberius- i am training armwrestling for a year and a half, i definitely made some progress, i can tell my fingers got stronger, brachialis, forearms...but still i am weakest in the gym, everyone easily pronate my wrist. Oh, i thought short fingers are better for hooking, but its hard for me to get in the hook with short forearms. Thanks for the tips! I will definitely try to pull more with BP with posting top roll.

@troluciak2844

Жыл бұрын

@@pRiMeAndRhyme with short arm hook would be better but its depends. I have very small hand with fingers, not thick etc and I after 3 years of training for armwrestling I still dont have big arms. I have bad genetics but now i can win witch guys like 110kg- I am 80kg. Train wisely, do different excercise. I changed my style of training and at the table very much to be better at some points. sorry for bad english

@Siberius-

Жыл бұрын

@@pRiMeAndRhyme - I think guys with short forearms have the most mechanical advantage with like, a backpressure posting move into a hook... and then into a shoulder press would be the ultimate move from there lol (ideally. Kind of asking for a lot here). But I mean there's guys with short forearms who pull in all sorts of ways, so yea I dunno, depends. There's infinite people who know more about this than I do, so I wouldn't take anything I'm saying with some type of authority.

@anuragrajashekar68

Жыл бұрын

Only if you have good genetics you can be an arm wrestler or else you cant

everyday?

Man 38 kg with a fat grip is still tough lol, if that’s east I gotta work on my wrist more 😣

Предплечья, чел предплеЧЬЯ

Do wrist curls! BE A MAN haha 😆 can’t wait to see another short 👍🏼

If you have godlike cup but 0 pronation you will cup your oponent but with your palm up... so you will lose anyways. But if you have godlike pronation and at least a 3/10 cup... at least you will keep your pronation and you will access to most of your side pressure, defense bicep, flat / death wrist / elbow defense and more (unless you lose 100% of the rising lol)

BLUE is saying that will beat you easily ?

this whole video could have been 8:55 😎

Ryan called you a punk… 😶 better smash him! 😂

@danhenderson5198

Жыл бұрын

This is the know go Gene..... Hahahhaa. I can the do....

Grippers are great for the forearms also. Without a strong hand there is not a strong wrist. Thanks for the training video.

@marcusrasborg6874

Жыл бұрын

You can always flop wrist press. Bicep and triceps are the most important muscles in armwrestling

@1Bottleneck

Жыл бұрын

No then I would recommend rope climbing because that requires a solid hand grip to apply the wrist and arm strength so you can climb up. That’s more of a useful combination than gripper

Жыл бұрын

Grippers don't do anything for armwrestling

@buddyhale7263

Жыл бұрын

@@1Bottleneck true. I gotta get a rope.

@buddyhale7263

Жыл бұрын

@ I'm not going to argue with you lol. The grippers have helped my forearms in building mass and wrist control. I'm just a beginner though so what do I know. Thanks for the comment brother.

What about muscle unbalances, if you over train your hand you will get pains in elbow, this video is not the case you cant train one thing and be healthy i know for my experience, where is talking about stretches etc. to stay healthy

Todd hutchings said dont do them

Yeah! Cup, Rise, Pornation.

Yeah probably I'm weak but 38kg is a lot.

38kg for the amount of volume you're doing is definitely a lot of weight

You are natural. You need to rest more. Guys who are on drugs can recover faster.

John brzenk never did any training with weights but was still the best? might be 99% genetics

@RDS_Armwrestling

Жыл бұрын

John Brzenk is John Brzenk, he's the absolute outlier amongst armwrestlers, and we can only guess what he would have been like if he had hit weights. I believe he does a little bit of weight training now but I'm not sure.

@danhenderson5198

Жыл бұрын

John Brzenk never did any weight training? And I am Santa Clause.

Hi Ray the correct English is “you have to” not “got to”

@nakodares5982

Жыл бұрын

“Got to” is slang but very commonly accepted and understood. Almost no one will have any issues understanding you, and many native speakers use it. But sure most correct is “have to”, and even more ideally “need to”.

@joshnosirname9924

Жыл бұрын

@@nakodares5982 yeah agreed I was just saying it because “have to” is a more enticing title than “got to”

@nakodares5982

Жыл бұрын

@@joshnosirname9924 Fair enough yeah

1-8 reps in enough and of course everyone must try to set PRs.I don't understand this psychosis with volume and not track the progress.All strength athleses train with low reps and track their numbers to progress and of course good technique is common sense. Armwrestlers will not discover the wheel.

@WilliamAstromAW

Жыл бұрын

The problem with lower reps on isolation movement is that the injury risk increases.

@jwaw8145

Жыл бұрын

Supermatches are endurance heavy duh

90 kilos bodyweight. When I weigh this much my belly and love handles are out of control.

there are much better ways to train the wrist though.

I'm sure this dude played the fictional character of Jason Genova.

Church of the painful truth “ fix yer shit .

You are doing the wrist curls wrong. You have No lat involved No sidepressure and barely thumb pressure. All this is relevant when cupping on the table. Also that fat GRIP is Not the best Option For doing these

Not necessary. you got it or you don't.

@ohris7610

Жыл бұрын

This is what People who Will never get anywhere say. Even talent without work is nothing