The best thing about the Broncos is that it is going to force Jeep to re-evaluate itself and we all will benefit from them both improving each other. Whichever one you choose you can't go wrong.

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@doolittlegeorge

3 жыл бұрын

Certainly not a no show but trying to bring value to the notoriously overpriced SUV segment. Toyota is still King for trucks and SUVs so everyone will be waiting on the 2022 redesign of the entire lineup but absolutely for this Year 2021 the Ford Bronco series has been the biggest serious market mover for any model since, well...the full size Toyota Tundra came out almost a generation ago. Sales have shot through the roof for all vehicles to start 2021 as well so that should create a lot of confidence to create a vastly better vehicle for the price as everyone plunges into the market for scarce US Buckys.

@deviouslaw

3 жыл бұрын

@@doolittlegeorge Don't know where you get that Toyota is king of anything with their outdated lineup

@hotrod7603

3 жыл бұрын

@@doolittlegeorge Toyota King of SUV's and trucks lol, Ford be like Kids these days 😂😂Toy otas SUV's and trucks are boring junks , another taxi fankid

@MyCrippledWings

3 жыл бұрын

When a base model Subaru Forester or Outback could out perform both of these. They have to do a little more than re-evaluate. Plus I find it funny as fuck, when both Jeep and Ford compare these factory pieces of shit to something like a toyota 4runner. 😂

Just bought my very first Jeep and it's a '17 Cherokee Trailhawk. Absolutely love it!! Have tried a lil trailing around with it and it's been nothing but excellence.

@PaDutchRunner

2 жыл бұрын

Same. I bought a 2014 just a few months ago. I’m blown away by how rugged the platform appears to be. Very capable.

@sbond1963

Жыл бұрын

Make sure you get the extended warranty. These things fail often and when they do, it’s thousands and thousands to fix it. If they have the parts that is. At the Day I write this they are out of PTU and rear diffs

@off-roadingexplained8417

Жыл бұрын

2017 and 2018 are the best years you can buy I think.

In snow, use the sand / mud option. It lets you spin. Or, use sport mode and full traction off. Push the traction button AND HOLD till it says full off. Then you'd be up the hill easy.

@20bassmaster

3 жыл бұрын

Thaaaaaank you. Was hoping I wasn’t the only one.

@stressedout291

3 жыл бұрын

Mine 08 grand cherokee has that and it work great I hold the traction button about 9 second and it turn it off completely

@aqua.scape69

3 жыл бұрын

@@20bassmaster exactly.

@300bhpton

2 жыл бұрын

Funny how these systems designed to make it easy are so insanely complex for the user. You need to be an expert on the ground & conditions to know which mode to use, then you need to be an expert on the vehicle to know the secret button pushes or less than obvious modes to use. Somehow old fashion levels and a manual diff lock suddenly seem so much more user friendly!

@patbraddy8375

Жыл бұрын

​@@300bhpton i LP

You literally just pulled the bronco into the ruts until it got barely stuck and then backed it back out, you didnt give any effort and called it a fail. Then the cherokee got stuck on the hill the bronco climbed with ease!

@jaymesnin

3 жыл бұрын

He called the bronco a cross over. Lol. Edit- To me the bronco is a SUV/Sport Utilty Vehicle. A cross over is like a Pontiac Aztec. Buick Redevous or whatever. Ford focus sport hatchback. It's like an SUV/Van/Car put together. An abomination LOL. No the Bronco Sport is a new version of the 90' Jeep Cherokee. Mini 4×4. Like a Jeep Patriot. Land Rover. Sport Utilty Vehicles. Just my opinion. I guess you could say it's a cross over from the escape and full size bronco. But it's an SUV

@daveroe8612

3 жыл бұрын

When I told him it was the worst job of reviewing, he had a smart are answer saying show me. So I posted TFL truck's review and another both well done. He won't have my views anymore not that he cares. Lots of other quality reviewers outthere....happy veiwing.

@hayden8693

3 жыл бұрын

@@daveroe8612 kick rocks

@endocry

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I actually agree...they got the Bronco stuck in a pretty bad spot in those ruts and seemed to make a minimal effort to get it out. I say the Bronco won this and I have no brand bias.

@hayden8693

3 жыл бұрын

@@endocry bronco Isn’t even rated to carry 100lbs on its roof, it’s a cheap pile of shit

These guys are just so wholesome. Even their complaints are more like educational critiques. Keep up the great work.

I drove the sport alot during this nasty pa winter this year on some pretty icey/snowy untreated mountain roads because i do alot of hiking in areas most people dont go. Put myself into some situations where i thought i was going to get stuck but managed to get it out ok. I am happy with it so far. It is not for hard core off roaders of course. Fits my needs perfectly though. I have the big bend version. Little lower and a less power but is getting the job done.

@tiredofit4761

11 ай бұрын

Love it.

I feel that you drive the jeep faster through the ruts when the Bronco was stopped.

@dawsonsschittcreek5395

3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@JayElement13

3 жыл бұрын

Yep

@genesishep

3 жыл бұрын

He stopped both of them mid rut and only the Jeep made it through even though the sun had softened the trail more by then.

@djgino7948

3 жыл бұрын

@@genesishep Plus the Bronco dug out the ruts deeper....

@YoFool.1506

3 жыл бұрын

Cherokee had a/ts in the mud. Makes all the difference.

for the ruts i would have liked if you actually stopped the Cherokee while going through them like you did with the Bronco Sport. You often say momentum is king but for one you allow it to have some momentum while the other you tell your dad to stop and make sure there is none. Now i like the Cherokee but lets compare apples to apples and not apples to oranges.

@themagician7734

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, they also didn't try Trail Control mode on it. Felt like it held up and they stopped, versus powering through on the Cherokee.

@robg6696

3 жыл бұрын

Because he was looking for a specific result. He didn’t let the Bronco Sport have anymore than one attempt and on the hill he gave the Cherokee three shots, while cheering it on, and then having it towed out. Then claimed the Cherokee the winner. People will argue it, but that’s the facts of what we just watched.

@TheAeswein

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed, and it was the first vehicle to break through the ruts... the snow could have been a little icier when the Bronco Sport drove through vs. slightly thawed out when the Cherokee went through. Would have been interesting to see the Bronco AFTER the Cherokee went through. Both good little vehicles!

@fasteddie5388

3 жыл бұрын

He made a complete stop on the rut with the jeep at 11:30.

@WilliamStewart1

3 жыл бұрын

@@robg6696 He did stop though? I think YOUR bias is poking it's nose here made that the result wasn't what YOU wanted and are now projecting your own thoughts on them. Hypocrite much?

Next time do bronco sport and Jeep Compass trail hawk 👍🏻👍🏻

@crimsonsamuraiftw

3 жыл бұрын

Unlike the Cherokee with the better engine options, the Compass at roughly the same curbweight is garbage and would've failed multiple attempts.

Followed you here from TFL. Seriously, you keep killing it with the best off road reviews. You really push the cars in useful ways to point of failure. It helps people like me decide what to buy vs marketing. You dad is a great addition, straight shooter, no drama. Hello from Seattle!

@ChrisParayno

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! I can barely bwatch TFL now a days. I'm not sure what it is, but this I feel has better content.

Just got a Trailkawk CHEROKEE 2019. Love it! Drove highway 45 m; and serious dirt, mud, 6 miles, very rutted and it rides like a sedan. My first car I leaned to drive was my dad’s Bronco in 1976.

Took my wifes '19 Trailhawk on a deep snowy Jeep trail with my Jeeper friends and they were amazed how well it did.

I saw a baby bronco in real life today. Pretty nice I must say

@alexanderbarcenas6224

3 жыл бұрын

@Jonathan Spier They have,it's just your bad luck,I've seen three bronco sports,one new defender,and no trx.

@alexanderbarcenas6224

3 жыл бұрын

@Jonathan Spier ok?,I think you mean,"rebodied" escape,"rebadging" is when you take a car from one company and turn it into a car from a whole different one,apparently you don't know the difference.Also,who cares?,it's more rugged than the escape,looks cooler,and has better options,it's a baby bronco after all,and I honestly would want one over a crappy,hole in the wall fca product.

@thebeddoctor4273

3 жыл бұрын

@Jonathan Spier it wasn't the real big bronco. It was the baby bronco sport i saw.

@20bassmaster

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexanderbarcenas6224 guessing you haven’t spent much time behind the wheel of recent fca products. Might change your tone if you did. Guessing daddy wasn’t a mopar guy? Lol

@alexanderbarcenas6224

3 жыл бұрын

@Jonathan Spier ok,still won't change my mind

The more I see reviews and videos on the Sport, the more impressed I become.

You have to hold the traction control button down on the cherokee for 10-15 seconds to fully disable it. Then you can hold it against the rev limiter without it cutting power.

This is a great video. It answered a lot of questions I have had about different trims of the Bronco Sport for a long time. Very informative :)

The KL Trailhawk V6 is really in a class by itself. And they handle pretty well on road, too.

@johnfrantz5885

3 жыл бұрын

I’m concerned about the longevity of that 3.2 though, idk why they didn’t just put the 3.6 in it that engine is way more proven

@AnthonyKopah

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnfrantz5885 It's the same Pentastar engine, but with thicker cylinder liners. The engine is fine, the 9 speed transmission is more of a concern. They had some issues in the earlier model years, which seem to have improved later on. That transmission is still the weakest part of an otherwise excellent vehicle though.

@alexgarcia3900

3 жыл бұрын

Great crossovers and they definitely performed very well for what they are.

@jakey20022

3 жыл бұрын

AGREED 100 percent

@kennethcurtis1856

Жыл бұрын

@@johnfrantz5885 I love the 3.2. Great engine for the Cherokee.

I have a 2017 jeep Cherokee and i must say it's a great suv. I live on 2 miles of rough rocky roads and the jeep handles the roads great year after year with no problems. Has 80k miles already.

@langdeezy4681

3 жыл бұрын

As soon as my 2015 trailhawk hit 90000 miles about a month ago several things went out at once including the PTU. cost me 5200 bucks and that was far less than what the dealership would have charged me. Now I'm worried how long this zf transmission will hold up..

@drscopeify

3 жыл бұрын

@@langdeezy4681 Looking on the website carcomplaints it looks like by 2017 all of the issues were solved so 2014-2016 had issues at least according to that website.

@jakey20022

3 жыл бұрын

V6 ?! Or 4 cylinder?

@KTMcaptain

3 жыл бұрын

@@langdeezy4681 Imagine how bad the Bronco will be for its PTU. The Cherokee TH has a 2 speed PTU that gives better gear torque multiplication to protect the coupling. The Bronco wetlands was given water cooling. That doesn't prevent heat from building up, it just manages it. Slipping clutches = heat.

@maxdonner6085

3 жыл бұрын

@@langdeezy4681 I had a 2014 CTH with 205,000 miles. Only thing that went out on it was the CO2 sensor. Traded it in Nov 2020 for a GCTH.

I would say that considering the Sport is not meant to compete with the Cherokee, but instead the Compass and Renegade, it did pretty well by comparison. Definitely an advantage to have real lockers. Already bought the Badlands, the styling is far more appealing to me that the jeep.

@mblake0420

3 жыл бұрын

Lol 😆u bought one of those

@Cyberman86

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, this video doesn’t show a fair comparison. The Sport competes with the Compass not the Cherokee Trail Hawk. That’s just a baby Bronco, the full size Bronco is a total beast.

@garys2157

3 жыл бұрын

I think Ford meant it to compete with all three small Jeeps, as there is overlap in all four vehicles in size and prices, power.

@CC-gt3ro

3 жыл бұрын

The badlands with off road all terrain tyres will do it. Thejeep seems ro have all terrain tyres, the test is not fair. Off road tyres are for mud and rock, it is well known. The badlands is better.

@CC-gt3ro

3 жыл бұрын

@@Cyberman86 they should start by putting all terrain tyres to the bronco. The test is false. The jeep has tyres for mud. The bronco has winter tyres that i have on my pontiac vibe.

I feel like you sent the jeep harder than the bronco threw that hole.. I don't know.

Yeah...SNOW TIRES had zero influence in this test....lol. My guess is you had the Cherokee in "snow mode"...which is a very aggressive traction program. Sand/mud would have been your better option. I've never had the nanny shut me down trying to get through a mud bog or up a loose hill. I only use "snow" mode on pavement. It does everything it can to prevent wheel spin, including starting off in 2nd gear instead of 1st. Put it in sand/mud and manually shift to keep the revs down and you woulda been up the hill no problem. Granted, snow tires definitely would have helped the cherokee climb that snowy hill!

@josiaevans

3 жыл бұрын

I was just gonna say that!!

@jingbow7496

Жыл бұрын

Right, snow mode is supposed to be used on flat ground, and too much spinning is considered a dangerous situation. On the hill with soft snow like mud, sand/mud mode should be a better choice.

The Cherokee also didn’t have someone telling them to stop in the middle of the rut. Definitely not a non bias review 😂

We love our 2016 KL Trailhawk. It’s primarily my wife’s daily driver. To work and back during the week, to the mountains of the beautiful PNW and back on the weekends. It’s plenty capable off road and quite comfortable on. I appreciate Fords retro nod to the first Gen Broncos in this latest generation, other than that I know very little about the new Bronco beyond what you’ve shared. Every time I see a comparison test up against a Trailhawk I’m intrigued to see if another crossover is a worthy opponent. To date, I would say some come close but all seem to miss the mark in one way or another. Love your channel. Great content. Thank y’all for sharing it with us.

Finally the video I’ve been waiting for y’all to post...lol! I think if the Sport would have had A/T tires that it just might have made it through the mud hole by the looks of it. Thanks y’all for completing my day!! I think I would still get the Baby Bronco!

Thank you for actually taking vehicles off road! Saw you at tfl good luck with your channel!

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

Welcome!

I had a 2014 Cherokee Trailhawk for 4+ years that I really enjoyed. Then I got a 2019 Cherokee Trailhawk Elite 2.0 Turbo and really fell in love with this vehicle, it can go through anything and never gets stuck with the correct air pressure in the tires. If you're driving in snow, ice, mud and sand and don't lower the air pressure you're going to get stuck. I agree with others, Ford's Bronco Sport / Bronco is going to push Jeep to do better and vice versa. I'll keep my Trailhawk over the Bronco Sport, but I do love the styling of the new Bronco (2 doors)!

@TheINFJChannel

Жыл бұрын

I'm a year late but omg what? Sometimes i cruise around and see a road i wanna go down on a whim. If it's muddy or whatever, do i just pull over and air down? Lol yea I'm a chick. Just got a sick '20 Trailhawk with no idea how this all works 🤦

@BillyBobTup

9 ай бұрын

@@TheINFJChannel You probably won't see this, but, yes, unless it causes you to lose to much ground clearance, airing down a bit will greatly increase traction. It will also give you more flotation, helping to keep you on top, so that you don't dig in so much so as to high center. Also, if you dig deep holes, they are harder to drive out of. I once was struggling in deep sandbwith an 84 4Runner, in 4wd with Gleason Torque Sensing differentials front and rear. I lowered the tire pressure from low 30s to maybe 20, and drove thru with ease, even in 2WD! So, airing down can make a big improvement( depending on conditions), just make sure you don't go low enough for the tire to come off the rim. And make certain you have a way to air back up before you get back on the highway!!!!!! OTOH, most of the time these guys do NOT air down and they ge by OK even on some really tough trails. You can definitely handle moderately tough trails and snow without airing down. I rarely aired down and went on some moderately hard but awesome trails and roads and thru deep snow all the time. Whether with the 84 4runner, or 83 S10 Blazer with G80 rear locker and good tires, or the 1st gen Nissan Pathfinder. Just try to figure how deep a mud hole is and make sure you have the clearance to get thru it. A deep enough mud hole can trap ANY 4wd vehicle. Even a highly modified Jeep Rubicon. Aired down or fully inflated. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fZaOo5SNdLSqosY.html

@jeanpierrekamel4797

5 ай бұрын

I'm going to buy 2014 Cherokee trailhawk but from my last search online😢 isn't reliable. Can you give me your opinion plz.

@MalcolmDesigns

5 ай бұрын

@@jeanpierrekamel4797 I had no problems with mine. I serviced it every year doing the usual maintenance. Then I got a 2019, it's an upgrade with a 4-cylinder turbo. I'm still driving it and love it.

Yesss, been waiting for this one!

Having driven both within the last month I would buy the Bronco Sport. I think the interior fit and finish is better in the Ford. I also like the looks. The Cherokee looks like every other CUV. Even though the Bronco Sport and the Escape share the same platform I prefer how the Sport drives. If your going to spend a more time off-pavement then the locker and 4wd low range in the Cherokee could prove to be a better choice. Just looked at nearby inventory. A fully loaded Cherokee Trailhawk MSRP at $45,245 usd. vs Bronco Sport at $38,320 fully loaded.

@JS-qi1ou

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention reliability and costs, I don't know what or if there will be any issues with the bronco platform but jeeps are constantly in and out of the shop.

@Hooner77

2 жыл бұрын

@Ryker Lockhart I think I stated that if spending more time off-pavement the Cherokee would be the better choice. When I drove these I was looking for a replacement for my 2006 Forester that does not go off-pavement.

Nice comparison video 👍🏽 The bronco sport looks amazing in that blue colour!

@SM-yi9lv

3 жыл бұрын

Area 51. I just got a First Edition Bronco Sport in Area 51 a couple of weeks ago. People rip on them, but they are great little SUVs and very capable!

Good review! So many people don’t understand how different snow can be week over week or day over day

Hey guys excellent comparison....thanks for the great content!

I have a 2019 jeep cherokee trail hawk and love it. I have gone through snow above my front tow hooks in snow mode

Interesting how the jeep got so many tries to go up the hill while the Ford got one crack at the mud rut. Then you end up having to tow out the Cherokee out of the snow after a complete failure uphill and somehow you conclude that the Cherokee is the winner. I would take the Bronco sport based on the limited test but I would want to see more rock, sand, water testing for a legitimate comparison.

@tonypaoletto6631

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, I think the Bronco won this one.

@weekendwarrior8179

2 жыл бұрын

The jeep was running that trail in the afternoon, where all the snow had melted... That's why it won.

@tinycampergang572

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonypaoletto6631 the bronco wouldn’t have made it to that trail in the afternoon

@Bloodflowers29

2 жыл бұрын

@@weekendwarrior8179 So if you live with snowy winters I guess you need to buy a tractor with your jeep.

@weekendwarrior8179

2 жыл бұрын

@@Bloodflowers29 Coming from Colorado and driving to Illinois for Christmas... I can tell you that Cherokee will never leave you wanting a tractor.

Finally someone throwing a Cherokee into the mix. Ppl forget how capable it and it's Grand Cherokee and Renegade sibling are.

Excellent video you guys. Really helps people making purchasing decisions.

That up hill snow battle in the Jeep was like my driveway yesterday here in Alberta with my Ram lol. Love watching your reviews!

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍

That Bronco sport is sure doing some Matrix alternate reality work on us. I know it’s not the real Bronco, I know it is not as capable as real Bronco, but still looks like a real Bronco. Me wants it bad. Easy win Bronco sport, not even close irrespective of capability. Coooool.

Pretty sure the winter tires on the Bronco helped a lot on the hill. Those DMV2's are my new favorite winter. I've been amazed at the traction and control on ice, snow and slush.

@Funkbass85

Жыл бұрын

I’ve been wondering if this is a thing, as in if this is deliberately done because these are paid sponsorships. Every video comparison video I’ve seen has the bronco in proper tires for the challenges, be it snow tires or A/T, while the other car will have All Seasons or some other ridiculous tire. The broncos always come out on top. Tires pay a massive critical role, especially in off-roading, and it is by no means a fair comparison when both cars have completely different sets of tires.

Awesome test trails. Beautiful country. Shows real world performance.

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

Awesome comparison! You guys do such a good job!

Hey Truck King!!😎 Hey Howard 😎

with aftermarket tires and lifts for the bronco sport that i've seen out already, yeah i'll take Bronco sport any day. It's no wrangler, but with after market tires and a lift it can be a DD and a great camping rig.

@tannerwilliamson2739

3 жыл бұрын

Just got home camping with mine. Did great

@DevTheBigManUno

3 жыл бұрын

Except for rock riding if a Wrangler can go somewhere an equivalently modded Cherokee can too. Another thing to consider is the bugs have been worked out for the Jeep line. Modding a Bronco right now would almost certainly just lead to a damaged vehicle.

@lmc_motorsports

3 жыл бұрын

Yes finally someone that sees things like I do

@justincesarski314

2 жыл бұрын

This is what I've been thinking

@justincesarski314

2 жыл бұрын

@@lmc_motorsports seeing the same

Killer review!!! Well done to you both!

I have a 2020 Trailhawk. I was offroading in soft snow and slush and mine was doing the power drop thing too while in snowmode. I hit the traction control button to disable it, and it turned into a little snowplow...no power loss. Snowmode must keep the traction control on.

@nathanm6143

3 жыл бұрын

It does keep traction control on because snow mode is made for icy paved roads to prevent slip. When off roading, sand/mud mode is the only way to go because you want wheel spin

It would’ve been nice to see the bronco sport go back through after the GC had trouble. Just to see if the BS can handle the snow after softening. Make it more of a fair comparison. I prefer the BS authentically, but it’s nice to know that the GC is the most competent off road!

@wildbill23c

3 жыл бұрын

That's a Cherokee not a Grand Cherokee.

@Marco-fi6gv

2 жыл бұрын

It also would have been nice to see the sport hawk go first and open up some of those ruts to see if it could have handled clearing the way and then have the Bronco go through after, just to make it more of a fair comparison.

This is ridiculous! They really want people to believe that the Bronco Sport could not do it when there is plenty of reviews that shows it can manage this kind of terrain easily!

I just brought home a 2017 trail hawk a couple days ago. I love it 😻

Both are great soft road crossovers but bronco has better approach and depart angle in my opinion because of the design it also appears to be shorter it’s truly an amazing car to driver I’ve tested it and I was happy

I’ll take the bronco sport

The other thing about those clutches is that if worked to hard the pcm will unlock your clutches until they cool. Not something I would want while going through deep snow or terrain getting to my property. Proper transfer case is the better bet.

I just bought 2021 jeep cherokee trailhawk elite, with cash yahoo no payments. Love it. I had jeeps for last 10 years, sticking with it

You guys rock!

The whole point of 4low is to get the torque without having to Rev to redline

I agree with what some of the others have said - it would have been much more fair if you had not completely stopped the Bronco and dug some ruts just to test the locker system. Yeah I know the Jeep stopped as well, but you stopped the Bronco completely a few times more than the Jeep and in different spots. In addition to that you stop that and then dug some ruts just to test how well their locker system worked. That wasn't exactly fair. And before anyone says anything, yeah they should have run the Bronco after the Jeep on the snow in order to see how it did. I think the results would have been the same on the hill. Gave the Jeep every opportunity, they wanted to make sure it went up that hill but they still ended up getting it towed. Didn't seem like they really tried that hard on those ruts and they only did it once. Not really sure how you can make that absolute pronouncement based on what they did there. Anyway, everyone has their preferences I'm not going to change anyone's mind I just wanted to bring up those points

Enjoyed the comparison, keep up the good work.

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

Very surprising with that jeep and the power that kept cutting out! Great content, thanks for sharing

If you exceed 35mph in 4x4 low I believe the jeeps will cut engine power to stop it from grenading the transfer case. My grand Cherokee does the same thing. It’s an annoying but necessary nanny

@fasteddie5388

3 жыл бұрын

No it does not. Only safety mechanism is if the PTU gets too hot it will automatically disengage 4wd until it cools down. What most likely happened was he had forward Collison auto braking on, and it thought the snow was a solid object he was about to hit.

It would be good so see some more input on this comparison. 1. Price including options 2. Consider on road a little too since thats the primary use 3. Tyres are pretty key, can you put matching types? Did you deflate them at all? 4. Run them at the same time when you know conditions are changing (tough on videoing I know) or alternate obstacles. Thanks for the videos though this one was a bit perplexing. Bronco got stuck on one and handled the other two well then you drove the Trailhawk differently through the ruts and it failed the next two. Tough to see how the Trailhawk won it...

@CFITOMAHAWK

Жыл бұрын

Yeah. He is comparing a crossover to the competition of the Wrangler. This is BS.

Thanks for the review. I bought the Jeep Cherokee TRAILHAWK!!! Thanks for what you do.

Lol! Great reactions from Truck King Sr. (TKS) Keep up the great content Cheers!

Great comparison, but feel like the Bronco Sport better compares to a Compass rather than the Cherokee

I would buy the bronco. The bronco has the look for me and the 2.0L with the turbo has good power for it size.

@johnhmielewski1230

Жыл бұрын

Good choice Randy the look is the most important factor in getting you out of most jams and obstacles 😂

This is what I'm talkin about!!

Between almost hitting a crossing tree and the X rated flagging and dragging trouser routine, I forgot what we were doing! Great job men, it must be after 10pm somewhere.

Love your vids man. Hello from NB. I have a 2015 Trailhawk, it has 31" Duratracs on it. I have owned a ton of offroad vehicles and this little thing shocks me everytime I take it out. I go places far worse than anything I've seen on KZread (east coast ATV trails, etc) and it impresses me every time...I've made wranglers look bad in a few spots...only limited by ground clearance but even that is rarely an issue with the right lines. Little tip, the ESC can be shut off completely by holding the button for several seconds....also, snow mode is junk...just makes it start off in 2nd gear....sand/mud is the superior mode offroad....even AUTO is better than snow mode. Give it a try ;) Keep up the great work, cheers.

@danieldalluge9435

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed snow mode sucks.

You're getting on the Bronco sport for having the same platform as the Escape. The Cherokee literally uses the same platform as the Dodge Dart economy car.

@jrayzin

2 жыл бұрын

Which happens to be an alfa romeo platform. Take from that what you will.

For some odd reason i've ran into similar issues with the Cherokee. It seems to be something with the shifting points, but if you go into manual mode, 2nd gear is the sweet spot where you can floor it without it cutting power. It seems to do it when its trying to shift into the upper gear if you are flooring it in those type of situations.

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips!

Love your stuff!

This one's going to make a lot of people's buying decisions easier. Good stuff guys.

@jstrig

3 жыл бұрын

Personally, I don't think it really did

@GreghouseVanBouten

3 жыл бұрын

@@jstrig So, Information = bad Got it.

@jstrig

3 жыл бұрын

@@GreghouseVanBouten Well, what do you think you learned from this? The Bronco Sport was on snow/ice tires designed for streets and got stuck in the mud ruts after the driver stopped in the middle of the ruts. The Cherokee Trailhawk made it through the ruts no problem, but never stopped in them and also had more appropriate tires for that terrain. Then the Cherokee Trailhawk got stuck driving around in the snowy uphill that the Bronco Sport went up easily earlier that morning.

@CarnutMM

3 жыл бұрын

@@jstrig in my old Jeep club there was a guy with a new Cherokee Trailhawk and that guy was able to go through some very thick mud. Much mor capable than many would think.

@jstrig

3 жыл бұрын

@@CarnutMM That also applies to the Bronco Sport Badlands

I think you should have run the Bronco Sport again after the Cherokee and you should used the same driver for all tests. For all we know your dad is simply a much better driver than you and that is why he got up the hill so easily. I also would have liked to have seen the Bronco Sport with Falken Wildpeaks that we get down here. All that said, you guys have a great channel.

@KTMcaptain

3 жыл бұрын

AT3W? There are too many wildpeak variants to count

@justhays

2 жыл бұрын

The Bronco broke the trail for the Jeep!

Hopefully I can help with the technical explanation on the Cherokee’s performance. Low is not really a low range. It just holds the trans in first gear. So you hit the rev limiter and killed the power. I remember this feature from the SAE program when the Cherokee launched. Also, I noticed in the mud and ruts section Howard was going slower than Stephen. At a similar speed the Bronco Sport would have likely made it through. I love the content Truck King provides. Thank you, for all you do.

@jcollins0615

3 жыл бұрын

That's the Trailhawk version it has a two-speed transfer case for true low range.

How much of this is tires vs platform? I know these are crossovers, but would tires help much or are the basics off?

bought a bronco the other day so far its been great

@jared_mcfarlin

3 жыл бұрын

Same here, wanted the Cherokee Trailhawk for a while now but now I'm in the Bronco sport badlands and couldn't be happier.

I have a '16 Cherokee Trailhawk. .low range with locker is not the best in snow...snow mode in 4 hi is actually really superior in those conditions. That may be why the Bronco Sport took the hill but the Cherokee Trailhawk did not.

Good review guys!

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Our 2020 Trailhawk does great in the snow. I have loads of video on my channel. Skid plates on the Cherokee are first rate too. Exhaust system is the low point underneath, which in a big oversight for the Cherokee. New Bronco will probably have those first year bugs that all new models have.

TFL's TRX lost power for no reason and Andre's F150 beat it twice drag racing.

@private6549

3 жыл бұрын

Why spam that here? He probably already knows it.

@damiangutierrez9103

3 жыл бұрын

@@private6549 FCA tech vs Ford tech

@eriklee1264

3 жыл бұрын

Computer glitch, quick turn off/on ... everything back to normal ... See Ya!

@damiangutierrez9103

3 жыл бұрын

@@eriklee1264 yep

@private6549

3 жыл бұрын

@@eriklee1264 Wouldn't be surprised if that is what happened to it with all the tech and computers that are in the modern vehicle.

Never been stuck in my 2019 V6 Cherokee Trailhawk 🤔 Fun video to watch tho

@autumnembers777

3 жыл бұрын

@Eternal Cowboy I don’t trail. I just have a family that needs reliable transportation in an all season state. Not sure why you felt the need to say that. I just wanted to let others know that my Cherokee Trailhawk hasn’t gotten stuck in the elements and I think it’s a great SUV.

"Dam trees jump right out in front of you"... 🤔🤣

Great video again gentlemen!! My wife& I had 3 jeeps 2 2015 trailhawks & 1 2016 trailhawk due to too many issues with my wife 2015..we had nothing but transmission problems with the 9 speed zf transmission & some electric issues too..I bet ya the transmission once bogged down trying to climb that one spot stopped the jeep from the mph sensor...sorry to say that 9 speed zf transmission is troubling..we traded both jeeps due to vast amount of problems with less than 30k on each..

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

Honestly if you would have driven the Bronco Sport as hard as you did the Cherokee through the ruts I think it would of handled it just fine.

@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080

3 жыл бұрын

I agree. The Bronco was run at 1 mph with forced stops, while the Cherokee smoked through the ruts "Non-stop" at 11 mph. Not the same at all! Also the Bronco broke trail while the Cherokee tram lined on an opened track.

@JackDaniels350

3 жыл бұрын

Pay attention guys, he brought the Cherokee to a dead stop just after 11:30 in the video right where the bronco got stuck.

@fabulousoffroaddesigns5080

3 жыл бұрын

@@JackDaniels350 he stopped well after the hard part where his Dad chose to back out. The father wasn't really stuck either. He backed right out. It just didn't have the traction to climb out from a dead stop in holes dug while checking the difference between locker open and locked. With momentum it would have sailed right through too.

@CC-gt3ro

3 жыл бұрын

And the blizzak tyres winter tyres for city against all terrain tyres is not fair. If i take the badlands i would take the off road tyres.

Sooooo when an engine cuts out on you in the middle of a climb....that makes it a better off road machine? interesting...

@baldeagle2128

3 жыл бұрын

Rofl

@20bassmaster

3 жыл бұрын

It only does it when you have it in snow or auto mode. Mud/rock and sand will give you all the onions until it blows up. I’m assuming he had it in snow mode, mine cut power in snow mode all the time. Things you learn living with it.

@vi8946

3 жыл бұрын

@@20bassmaster yes you are right

I'm in a 2019 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk Elite, this is my 2nd Cherokee Trailhawk so you can probably guess I happy with it; comfortable packed with goodies and that rear locker is probably the one item that makes it so appealing, I believe it's the only crossover in its class that does actually have a rear locker. Back when they first came out, you could see the hardcore Jeepers doubting its ability at the local OHV park, but boy were they surprised when they saw what it could do. Yup, a little more lift and larger wheels would go a long way but stock it's a little boy in big boys boots. Having said all of that, I'm very interested in the full-size Bronco, unfortunately, it's probably going to be out of my price range but from everything we've seen so far Ford has done a great job bringing an iconic vehicle back. It's a shame about the smaller sport but clearly, Ford is going after a specific segment with it, and it's NOT necessarily off-roading, probably more the soccer mum which is exactly what everyone said about the Cherokee and the RR Evoke also :-)

Nice video! One thing, don't you guys have some radios for communicating driver/spotter?

@TruckKing

3 жыл бұрын

Yes we do - and we yell a lot.

You picked the one that mechanically failed you. I really don't like either one but the bronco tamed the hill easily. You pulled the bronco into the mud and stopped twice loading up the tread with slick mud and then took a better angle with the jeep. The obvious winner was the bronco hands down.

@halbear4068

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. These little Bronco Sports surprise me!

@mailriddler

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. That was not a fair review!

@philsonnenberg6092

2 жыл бұрын

@@halbear4068 accept the Bronco is just a toy. It cant tow anything no matter which one you pick.

@ernestsalazar8026

Жыл бұрын

The jeep was not in the right mode. Sand and mud mode would have let it kept spinning without cut off, also you have to fully turn off traction control by holding it down 5 seconds

You need to make sure that the traction control is fully off because when you just put it in different modes the traction control only turns halfway off. You need to hold the traction control button for around eight seconds until it says fully off on the dashboard then you won’t have any power cut.

I own a 2018 Jeep Cherokee Trailhawk, I have never had the issue of power being cut while in 4x4 low. Still great review

@awakenedone7577

3 жыл бұрын

Probably didn't spin the tires a lot in snow

@AnthonyKopah

3 жыл бұрын

Low range doesn't cut power, but the traction management while in Snow Mode does (not the correct mode to be using in this terrain as Snow is meant for preventing slip and here you would instead want to power through).

I'd like to see the Transit Connect mounted on that AWD platform.

The funny thing about people buying vehicles with all these traction features when they get stuck they blame the vehicle. Unlike real off road enthusiasts is the driving skills that counts.

Kinda felt like you had your decision on this one before you even started...

@El_Lobo_Solitario

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Same!

@jreagins1

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. Sounded like the review was meant to prove their preconceived opinion that the Jeep was better. And they struggled to prove it. And given that it was an off-road test, I'm not sure they actually did prove it given the Jeep was the only one that had to be towed.

@richardverderber9812

3 жыл бұрын

"Don't let me down"

@russtomas4461

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, the Cherokee is the established leader. The Ford is an upstart challenger. It makes sense.

What are the approach and departure angles between the two?

Did you even have the snow mode on my 2016 don't have problems like that

The Bronco Sport would have most likely made the ruts with more momentum. The Sport did every well especially since the Cherokee is not really its competition. There needs to be an I need to make it button to overcome these stuff safety systems. I had a Jeep do the same thing to me when I was almost out of the ditch I was it. I will mostly never own a modern Jeep again. But this is all just my opinion and experiences. Enjoyed the video.

@jstrig

3 жыл бұрын

And it was running tires designed for snow and ice, not mud

The reason that the cherokee probably cut power is because you can only go like 15 mph or less while being locked in the rear. Probably jeep has a safety shutoff to power when you are trying to go over certain speed to protect the PTU

@sprint395

3 жыл бұрын

I think his wheel speed was way to high. If he used moderate throttle it probably would have made it.

@fasteddie5388

3 жыл бұрын

The safety shut off just disengages the 4wd. His forward collision auto braking went off thinking the snow was something solid he was about to hit.

@joel.7372

3 жыл бұрын

I disagree with the 15mph theory. I would have to agree with the forward collision theory. I have a '19 Trailhawk and the only difference btw mine and the tested one mine doesn't have the forward collision warning. I just been with mine in snow in similar condition and haven't experienced power cut like that.

@agiosKatastrof

3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2016 TH, and I thought the same. The stock firestones also aren't so great.

@danieldalluge9435

3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2019 and have run 4 low and locked up to 35 mph in 8" of fresh powder... It is the only way it ever gets into 9th gear. LoL The locker does disengage at higher speed. I agree with the fwd collision cutting the power. Also, not sure what mode he was in at that point.

I know it's not feasible but I would be interested what the outcome would be if both had the same tires. I feel like stock tires are important tests but after the first 50-60k miles tick off, what then? I'd even be interested in the same vehicle running factory vs a general grabber, ko2, etc. If y'all ever run across a lot of extra money you know what my vote for a video is. Haha. Good stuff guys! Thanks!

Isnt this Lumber Jack also on TFL truck sometimes?

I have driven my TrailHawk in MUCH worse conditions... I'm confident I could have driven through that without issue by choosing the right drive modes. Like others have said in the comments, you should have used Mud/Sand. Snow is for roads covered in snow. Also, hold the traction control button to completely disable it, although I have used the traction control to my advantage offroad in the snow but you need to feather the throttle instead of "Give 'er". The only big downside of the TrailHawk are the transitions between 4-low and diff-lock... sometimes it just doesn't want to do what you want it to do and it requires patience or plenty of swearing (both work). Awesome video! Thanks!

@saliston

2 жыл бұрын

that was purely driver probelm

@MalcolmDesigns

2 жыл бұрын

Agree! Driver issue not a Trailhawk issue.

Woow great video guys this is a true off road test amazing really loved it being from quebec its the same conditions here too keep this up guys i love your videos👍👍👍

Pulling for the old man in the new kid!!!👍👍👍 ain’t going against fellow seasoned person!

I'm not to sure if you tried using the snow mode for the jeep compass. I find the snow mode really lets the wheels get going and allows for that extra slip. I don't own a compass, but I have tried using the 4 wheel lock on my renegade and it would still stayed stuck in the snow, but when I switched it to snow mode it actually got me out. Not to sure on a the technical details but what can I say if it works it works. I still love my tinny jeep XD Thank you for the awesome video.