Thank for the insights. I'm looking at getting a 2020 RTL. Thank you for helping me know about issues to be aware of. Well done!

Greetings, enjoyed your vlog on your new RT Limited. Last year we purchased a pre-owned 2014 RT Limited from a private seller, with low kms. Overall, really enjoying it. We also had a problem with the seat lifting up, when it was time to add fuel. Mentioned this at the dealership when we were in for a oil change and they replaced the latch spring, which was stretched. Luckily now the problem is solved, :-). Thanks for sharing. Safe Travels.

Subscribed and enjoyed all three videos so far. Very well done, so certainly keep 'em coming. We're also looking at the 2020 Red and I think you're going to cost me a lot money!

Thanks for pointing out the tarnished bolts. Wish more would speak out about them. Good points you bring up. Some I haven't had to deal with yet but most I have and some things you haven't touched on yet. Your doing a great job.

@dantadrick9769

4 жыл бұрын

So BRP has replaced the tarnished bolts. Our other issues they have not addressed.

You are spot on with most of these

Fellow Spyder ryder here. I have a 2013 RS. Thats really surprising to hear about the LCD screen. With technology now they could have put in a screen that either doesn't getting effected by light like that, or like you said put in more covers around it.

These are valid concerns. Thanks.

But I am still buying a fully loaded 2020 Spyder RT Limited anyway.

@kmccary

4 жыл бұрын

You should. Everything he talked about is correct but this is still the best machine out there

I purchased a 2019 F3T with 2 miles on it, a little more than a month ago. I had them also place the top bin, built-in back-rest, and additional two speakers. I already have 1,100 miles on my baby, and I'm pleased with every aspect of my Spyder. I have rode motorcycles since I was 11 years old, and I'm now 58. My son rides a Suzuki GXR and he can't lose me in the corners. Because I grew up on motorcycles, snow mobiles and just outside fun. When I take corners, like a corner going to the left, I push heavy on my right leg and lean just like a snowmobile. If you want to see a major difference in how you can take corners, give it a go, because I'm sure you won't be disappointed! Sorry about your paint job, I better take a closer look at mine because I clean mine at the carwash, even using the brush that's provided. I haven't noticed any problems but now I'm going to take a closer look. Again a 2019 F3T with all the extras including the top bin, with built-in backrest, and extra two speakers is awesome!! I've read where people state they can only hear their music up to about 50mph. I hope these people understand you go under your settings and you can change the settings on the music amplifier. I can drive at 70mph and still hear my music with no problem. People need to play around with their Can Am and figure out all the different things they can do. Playing around with the settings won't kill the Spyder, lol! I have an issue that when I go to hit my signal, on a few occasions I have hit the horn. If you're in Missouri go to Pitbull Powersports to check out a Can Am, they have three locations. No I don't work for them, nor am I getting paid to mention them in this write-up, I wish I was. It's just that they treated me so well and went above and beyond to sell me my Can-Am Spyder!!!

@dannysdailys

3 жыл бұрын

That's what I really like about the Spider. It's a street snowmobile. At 63, my body is done sledding and lugging my Goldwing around.. This scratches both itches. I had to get used to speed though. This thing cruises at insane speeds compared to a snowmobile. Easy to get in over your head.

@paulthorade6977

3 жыл бұрын

@@dannysdailys enjoy and be safe. Missouri just got rid of the helmet law. When I'm cruising around our town I don't wear my helmet but when I get on the freeway the helmet is on. I grew up in Colorado and when I was a kid we never had a helmet law When I went and took my motorcycle test I didn't even wear a helmet. So I'm not saying that helmets aren't important because they truly are! However when I'm in town I just like feeling the breeze on my face.

Good points and well done, will BRP take note, probably not. I certainly agree about the brake pedal, I'm 5"7", I would prefer it a bit closer and a bit larger, I want to be able to find that sucker real quick. I suppose the aftermarket will come up with something. From old school, even a hand brake would be nice, but it is what it is.

@RichardJoashTan

4 жыл бұрын

But I will still buy a fully loaded 2020 Spyder RT Limited anyway.

Well, you made my mind up for me.

I have a 2020 rtl and enjoy it very much. I put on 15,000 km this year on it with no complaints at all. Im short and love the new floorboards as it gives you lots of room to move your feet around when your riding all day seats are nicer for long day rides as well . Im very surprised that you have so many issues with the bike. Spending this kinda money i cant believe you never took more time being your so picky now that you own it. They all have issues of some degree and first year of a model change on this is no exception. That being said im on my third spyder now and i average 15 km a year and i think these are the best bikes yet 🛵👍🏻.

Great information. I am currently dealing on exactly the same bike. I'm having some second thoughts... Maybe I need to wait a year till they work some of the kinks out of it. You know what they say about first year models... Might be right in this case. Thanks for your review!

@ridnwithred5607

4 жыл бұрын

I totally agree about buying models after a major revamp. But the LINQ system and being able to customize the 2020 made a huge difference to me. Just being able to go from a full tourer to more of a bagger was a huge incentive for me.

Very thorough acessment, of that beautiful 2020 Spyder RTL. You would think after 12 + years, ( and many many hours on computer CAD programs. ) they would have figured out these simple and stupid flaws. It's a real shame, that Spyder Lovers spend SO Much money, on these great machines, that BRP insists on continuing, putting cheap low grade parts and low tech solutions, to an otherwise truly impressive innovations. Hopefully BRP will hear everybody, and do something about it. Nicely Done. Thanks for sharing. Keep on Spydering.

@docmccoy1928

3 жыл бұрын

OMG a manufacturer who uses cheap parts and fitments on a twenty thousand dollar plus machine. I am shocked and dismayed. How dare they want to keep that profit margin up.

There seems to be a misunderstanding that this is a standalone review. This is part 2 of a review and only talks toward the things that I have issues with. You can find the find part of the review here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/eYSHrKWbcaXVkcY.html !!! -- Also I need to add a correction to this video about the dash getting washed out in direct sunlight. Now that I've washed the bike a few times, it seems that this can not be reproduced. I've even worn a white tee-shirt to give it the worst possible scenario. I don't know if this was due to some residue on the screen when it was new or what the deal was. I'll either make a correction video and leave this video alone, or I will edit that part out of this video. -- !!!

@dannysdailys

3 жыл бұрын

I have a 19 and it's bad and has the same panel you have. It will come back and piss you off.

Ceramic coating helped mine tremendously

Good video bad pts a.mad when you find out these thing for the money .cheers council kev uk

The only thing I agree with is about the plastic piece in front of the frunk, the drivers seat should come up a little higher for checking oil or getting gas. I bought my 2020 RTL about 3 weeks ago have 3000 miles on it now. First thing I did was wash it with a lot of suds after drying I used F11 on it let it cure for 2 days and put another coat of F11 on let that cure for 2 days now I just wipe it down with F11 I don't have any paint problems. I'm 6'1" and weigh 270 and 76 years old came off 2-wheelers after 60 years of riding HD touring machines and last was a Indian Chieftain. The hardest thing for me was no Front brake lever. Other than that I love this machine even if it is all plastic and it is relatively cheaper than any other Trike.

Good video

You brought up a lot of good points to consider. I have a 2018 F3 Limited. So my biggest complaint doesn't affect me. Why did BRP remove the turn signals from the back of the mirrors? This also makes it harder to add additional lights.

@ridnwithred5607

4 жыл бұрын

@Mark, I believe the new RT's are using the same mirrors as they have on the F3's. I think BRP is trying to save as much as possible reusing different elements between the F3 and RT. I think the Top Box for the 2020 RT and F3 are the same now, just with different part numbers, same as the mirrors.

I decided to use the mcguire's ceramic wax and detailerI . so far no issues. Use a buffing pad soak it In water rinse the water out Spray 2 shots of ceramic wax on the pad Give it a few seconds wipe Super shiny Slippery Got your base down Now when your bike gets dirty. hoes it off. And while it's wet use a detailer ceramic . super easy. This way your paint won't scratch. 2 the best of my knowledge . I just did it Have a 2021 marcello red black 16 miles on it. I have The 2021 Can-am RT limited SPIDER marcello red black. And we are still having fitment problems toward the back by the passenger rails. Zip ties ,metal clips side cover lose mirrors mud. Flap not fitting off to one side trunk close and still opens front trunk don't want to open .front tires low. Must not be sealed lost 10psi in 3 weeks .mirrors can be updated but it will cost me 75.00 Dollars. Because it is not a recall or safety problem. But I still love 💘 the bike it's. More of a cosmetic issue.

It really sounds like you should sell this, (as you are not happy with it at all) and look for another good 2015?

@ridnwithred5607

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, this is not an all inclusive review. Please check out my other 2 video's to get the context of this video.

@childofthe60s100

4 жыл бұрын

@@ridnwithred5607 Yes I did do that. I find your videos very useful and informative. It's just that you seem very dissatisfied with it? If it's not what you like, it's not going to get any better. Perhaps cutting your losses, was all that I was suggesting? I don't think you'd struggle to sell - these are in demand and short supply.

Good to know the real facts from someone who spent their hard earned money for one of these 2020 Spyders. Thanks

Thanks for the video, I also understand that the body panels on the 2020 don't fit and are held together with zip ties, and you can't put bolts in. And with all the issues you point out, I'm glad I waited. I have a 19 so I'm in no hurry to trade it in. Maybe next year when they get some of the bugs out. Nice looking ride though. I'd run with the trunk panel on just like you do. Really good looking without the top trunk. Stunning, really. And it should at least have indicators for the back seat/hand hold heaters. At least the switches should light up. That's almost unbelievable. How long have they been doing this? And why no Android support? Still going with slave labor Apple. I have to use a phone app to get bluetooth music. Where are you supposed to put the phone? That's junk in my book. And the headlight body panel should be body color like the older machines, not black. It looks hideous in black. Especially on the white machine. And no more Nav option. The Canadians are going backwards with the tech end of this machine. It reminds me of Rolls Royce when they first started putting computers in their cars. A half baked effort. My machine with Nav, cost me 31,000 dollars and the Nav doesn't even integrate to the rest of the machine. So it won't go through the machines speakers. It only uses it for the power wire. There's no excuse for this. That's a LOT of money for so many short comings. And they don't even offer it on the 2020. All my cars have a real Nav system. Serious bummer on the 2020.

I always wondered why BRB never put a home link switch on. That you can open a garage door or a gate.

You are right that seat hinge looks cheap as hell. I can't believe there no indicator lights on the heated seat buttons. is there a brightness control for the cluster? I keep looking at these but they seem a little pricey for what they are and now that I saw this there would be some price negotiation. oh I forgot they don't do that on these been to three location owned by different company's and I get the same story so it's not a M.S.R.P. it's M.R.R.P. thanks for the insight into owner issues

I have the 2015 RT S also and i love it, going to wait til 2021 or 2022 to see what BRP does different

@RichardJoashTan

4 жыл бұрын

But I will buy a fully loaded 2020 Spyder RT Limited anyway.

!!!!

Did the company mank any changes to what your disappointments are on the 2021 spyder RT limited? I want to buy one but just these points are keeping me to spend this amount of money on one. I might as well buy a new Honda trike and pay 10 grand more.

@ridnwithred5607

3 жыл бұрын

Hey Les, I haven't personally been around a new 2021 so I can't really comment if BRP made any major changes.

Will the dealer change the tires to a better tire. I heard the back tire that comes with the bike doesn't last more than 5000 miles. The dealer will not put a dark side tire on the bike. In many forms the advice is to put a dark side tire on the bike for better traction cans longer tire life

@ridnwithred5607

3 жыл бұрын

Les, Some dealers will balance and mount car tires if you purchase the tires and bring them in. Some on the other hand will refuse due to it not being OEM equipment. Spyderlovers forums are a great place to get tire replacement options. Just call your dealer to make sure they will do it.

@leshemingway3352

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for reply I have been looking at forums. Some consumers say if one changes the factory installed tire with a dark side tire the warranty on the bike no longer exists. That would be a real drawback

Wow can you see dust on my shiny black machine? Have you heard of ceramic coat?

You can get that plastic shield replaced. I had the same problem and BRP sent another shield to the dealer and replaced it. Much better now.

@ridnwithred5607

4 жыл бұрын

Keith what shield are you referring to?

@keithzierke2048

4 жыл бұрын

@@ridnwithred5607 Around the 5:55 mark. It is a fitting error. BRP replaced mine. Also the radio controls are good WHEN you get used to using them and the BRP connect system.

But to me it IS flawless.

You bought it live with it

Did you explore the LCD pannel menus to see if you can increase the contrast so, when the sun hits it, it remains readable?

@ridnwithred5607

4 жыл бұрын

Daniel I have not dug into the settings yet, but due to your question I'll look into that option. Thanks for your comment.

@keithzierke2048

4 жыл бұрын

@@ridnwithred5607 Just go to the settings and you can adjust the brightness of the screen. Works great.

Leave it in the garage if you don’t want your bike to have character

@ridnwithred5607

4 жыл бұрын

Hey there Edd, thanks for the comment. I don't mind character at all, just trying to help others know what to look at to see if this 2020 RT is right for them.

no factory seat is perfect. that's what aftermarket seats are for.

I wanted a RTL over a F3L(even tho I am having a hard time finding the real world diff. But with these short comings I don't think I will be spending 30k on a RTL THANKS

@ridnwithred5607

4 жыл бұрын

@Brian even with the minor flaws the 2020 Spyder RT is an amazing motorcycle.

Do you still like your Spyder?

@ridnwithred5607

4 жыл бұрын

@Howard, I love my Spyder. I just simply wanted others to know about possible issues.

beyhond winery, are you for real

My seat will not stay up.

I had an annoying whine coming out of my speakers while viewing this video. Must be something wrong with Red's end.

Damn for someone who loves his ride you certainly have issues. No manufacturer puts decent tires on anything. Considering the controls (stereo, screen, brakes) are such a big part of a machine why did you buy something with all the issues you describe. Due diligence before buying would have found most of what you are talking about. It's just hard to reconcile that you love the machine and bash it like this. JMHO

@troy9er

3 жыл бұрын

Your rite, I sold Luxury cars for almost 20 years. Luxury brands are pretty good but the last 5 years before I retired I worked for Hyundai and they sold most of their cars with cheep Kumo’s. Yuck, I bought an Elantra Limited before I retired and while the tires were ok, they sucked in the snow and rain. I replaced them with some Yokohama’s that are heads and shoulders ahead of them in snow and rain. Loved the Hyundai brand though, have had my Elantra since 2015 and it has been perfect in operation. Have only replaced the tires, wipers, Battery and front break pads. Didn’t even need rotors! The car has been a real dream!

That is why I hate first year bikes. Try buying a Harley for more money. Tires on any motorcycle do not last. Harley parts rust within a year. I am sorry you do not like the new 2020 RT. I love my 2018 F3 Limited. I will probably always stick with the F3.

Ffs....that was the most negative, picky review I’ve had the displeasure to waste my time on. One question, why did you sell your beloved 2015....🤬🤬

@ridnwithred5607

4 жыл бұрын

@Ian, thanks for taking time to post a comment. Everything has pros and cons, these are just my thoughts on the 2020.

@kmccary

4 жыл бұрын

Everything he said is correct. None of this takes away from how great the RT 2020 is. No need to be so sensitive.

@ianbrookes6978

4 жыл бұрын

KennyKill well two things to say to that. I don’t think I was being over sensitive and I don’t he is correct about a lot of it. However my main problem with it as a review was that it wasn’t balanced, good with bad. Yes the Spyder is not perfect, it has some issues like any bike but imagine someone thinking about a Spyder and coming across a one sided review like that.... forget it, move on....although they might go for a 2015....🤔

@RichardJoashTan

4 жыл бұрын

@@ianbrookes6978 BUT I DO NOT CARE! I WILL BUY A FULLY LOADED 2020 CAN-AM SPYDER RT LIMITED ANYWAY!

@ianbrookes6978

4 жыл бұрын

Richard Joash Tan I already have!!!

Why are you doing nothing but complain about your purchase. I listened to you say no useful information about nothing Tell BRP and dont buy the product but dont waist my time with your winning about your dissatisfaction with your purchase