Shawn Smoak says not to use it he is a master technician so that's good enough for me and now I don't run my car in eco either. More Power.

I used ECO mode for the 1st 500 miles of ownership. I hadn't ridden a bike in perhaps 15 years due to injury then that P word thing happened. Anyhow I did the Can-Am Experience twice because there was an extra slot and the leader wanted me to gain more experience garnering my interest. 30 days later I took possession of my new 2023 Spyder RT Limited in Dark Marsala Red. Those 1st 500 miles taught me a lot. When i realized I could press ECO mode again and turn it off oh man did my ride come alive! MPG? Maybe you're right, Chris, there may have been 1 MPG differences between the two but the experience was definitely night and day!

I have never used Eco Mode I just ride it however feels right for the conditions. Just ride and be happy!

When I got my Spyder, I used eco mode thinking the gas mileage would be better. Then I saw a Shawn Smoak video about what eco mode does to the Spyder engine and I stopped using it since then. I enjoy the performance of the Spyder without the eco mode. And your test result confirms my test results as well; the gain in gas mileage is minimal at best in eco mode. The sweet spot I found is 65mph or 105km/h; I achieve regularly 32-34mpg. And, yes, over 70mph or 115km/h fuel consumption increases and gas mileage drops quite a bit. Cheers Chris

@SpyderMinimalist

Ай бұрын

Good info.

@stanweaver

Ай бұрын

I seem to remember Shawn talking about carbon scoring in e cylinders and eco mode but I could never find it again. He has SO many videos. I agree with you. After hearing Shawn Smokes and after testing by people like @PurpleOnThree, I just stopped using it altogether.

The LAST place that I would try to compare eco to normal mode is a steady state highway ride. " ECO Mode Smart Assist helps you optimize your shifting behaviour " It softens /slows your throttle response. In a steady state highway cruise, you aren't giving it much of an opportunity to do anything.

Do not believe all the crap you see on various forums, unless you want to believe that BRP is knowingly trying to damage their engines... come on now. really ??? Eco mode slightly changes the throttle response. What is your RPM at 70 mph in Eco Mode? What is your RPM at 70 mph in Normal Mode? Is there any significant difference... Nope. Eco mode throttle response mapping will simply be more on the gentle side vs normal mode. The RPM difference, at speed, will likely be pretty much the same, so you won't see a significant mpg difference. Any small improvement is due to the slightly more gentle acceleration when you twist the throttle. And, oh yeah, Eco mode helps new riders, with a signal when to upshift.

@bigmanmoto9897

Ай бұрын

Bingo!

@SpyderMinimalist

Ай бұрын

Good explanation.

@PurpleOnThree

Ай бұрын

Absolutely right, Wayne!

@guzzialfa

Ай бұрын

True that. Taught me how to steer and not lean. Get used to a brake pedal and upshifts with a display to remind the rider. Well done BRP. At 500 miles I took the training wheels off

I would agree with Wayne's assessment. After 4 years riding a Spyder I don't see any advantages to eco mode mileage or performance. Thanks for the video

@SpyderMinimalist

8 күн бұрын

You’re welcome!

No, ECO mode doesn't make much of a difference. I tested it last year on the way to Florida and on the way home... ECO one way, regular another. The gas mileage was not significant. I'm not using ECO on my new model at all. As Spyder Wayne says, it's good for new riders.... But that's about it.

Eco Mode is more for in town driving it smooth the Spyder out more for slower speeds it takes the throttle jerk out at slow speeds.

As already mentioned, Eco mode throttle response mapping will simply be more on the gentle side vs normal mode it is perfect for driving in Rain and gravel roads. In all other conditions, I'm driving in normal mode. Living in Germany with 75% no-limit Highways, a higher MPG is not really what I'm looking for. Just fun is enough.

@SpyderMinimalist

Ай бұрын

75%! Wow, I had no idea. That’s great.

I have found in my first 3,000 miles on my Spyder, the Eco mode is noticeable in stop and go conditions, not highway cruising. My throttle response isn't as aggressive and appears to limit the higher RPM's. My MPH is noticeably improved under stop and go conditions, especially with my wife riding along. You might want to try your experiment again under stop and go conditions.

@SpyderMinimalist

Ай бұрын

I will do that, thanks for the input.

Good deal

All highway driving F3 eco 36.9 mpg. Little sluggish but good enough performance for an old man.

@SpyderMinimalist

22 күн бұрын

That’s actually very good. 8m still testing varying riding conditions.

I use my eco mode. I’m not sure if it makes a difference but I still have great performance and 30+ mpg.

All I noticed was that it just help with the gears other then that my 1330 cc spyder eats 7,5 l 100 km. Yes I'm european and use the only usable system. 😂😂😂 but I don't use sport mode neither so I feel that normal is good enough

Eco mode makes me obey the speed limit 😮 sometimes

I have noticed the tank does no fill up beyond 6 gallons. I can never get it below that.

lol, I think ECO mode is more like Granny mode. but I have Pedal Box on my RTL22

@SpyderMinimalist

24 күн бұрын

I need to check that out.

I think most opinions are that ECO mode saves on MPG, I don't think it saves anything, but that's just me. We'll see how that work for you. Your pencil saved you $44 for a new Show Chrome shock.

@randybart8542

Ай бұрын

Just get it replaced under warranty.... Using a pen on $30,000 machine, wtf.

@billwilliams9527

Ай бұрын

@@randybart8542 Funny I had mine replaced under warranty on my 2020 RTL, both failed. Two trips to the dealer, 80 miles and two wasted days, oh yeah, have it replaced under warranty, great idea.

2019 f3 Ecmode 36.9 mpg

@SpyderMinimalist

19 күн бұрын

That’s great!

I also decided not to use ECO mode. I felt like it just changed the throttle feel a bit, with no real difference in mileage. At least the way I ride.

@SpyderMinimalist

Ай бұрын

I’m now editing a video from today testing MPG in standard mode. 35 MPG. I can’t imagine why anyone would use ECO mode.

Are you using premium fuel like 92 or 93 Octane? Just curious.

@SpyderMinimalist

Ай бұрын

Yes, 91 or 93 depending on the gas station.

What octane gas to you use?

@SpyderMinimalist

Ай бұрын

93 or 91.

So yesterday’s video you had over 2K in mileage and today it’s 1,500 so ?

@SpyderMinimalist

Ай бұрын

I shoot videos in groups at times and schedule them out in advance. The timing, the mileage, etc, doesn’t always synch. I need to organize this better.

@DFWMoose

Ай бұрын

So how many others were recorded with this one?

@SpyderMinimalist

Ай бұрын

@@DFWMoose five. I’m going on a trip to Ithaca tomorrow. I’ll shoot six videos over two days, and spread them over two weeks.

@DFWMoose

Ай бұрын

@@SpyderMinimalist well I suggest organizing them better as you acknowledged

eco mode is a joke. It does nothing. It just changes throttle response and thats it.

Eco mode just indicates when to shift. period. It doesn't do anything else. It's not like a car's eco mode. The mileage will be the same.

ECO MODE..does little to nothing..

@BikerDon

Ай бұрын

Wrong It smooths the bike out at slower speeds also if you load on a trailer keep you from quick throttle. It's also great if you have a ride in a parade using Eco mode.

I use the eco mode and non eco mode mix. I get 35 mpg. When I'm on the highway i use eco mode, in town non eco mode.

@SpyderMinimalist

Ай бұрын

I actually got better MPG without it. I did a follow up video showing my results. No more ECO mode for me. But I’m glad you get better results.