What an excellent video! Really useful to hear the two types of strings compared directly. I really, really want one of these basses now!

Thank you for including both a flatwound and a roundwound string tone. Quite a difference. It actually sounds great with rounds in the center position, but I personally prefer flats. I wonder how would it sound with a set of thomastik infeld strings.

Super helpful thanks

Great comparison

I have a Starfire and I use roundwound strings. I never try to play with flat. Nice video, thanks.

Flatwound for the win!

@hoangkhanhtruongnguyen8197

2 жыл бұрын

Sure.

and do not forget Steve Boone of THE LOVIN' SPOONFUL. Yes, FLATWOUNDS RULE ON BASS...no doubt about it.

@MrMicalo

5 жыл бұрын

the bassist of The Turtles and the guy of the german band The Lords used one too

Thanks for the demo;! What gage would you recommend on the flat? 045-105 or heavier? standard scale length? Would you recommend La Bella or other brand?

night and day difference - prefer the flats, but big question: how do the sounds compare in the context of a mix?

Small point, not worth mentioning really but the 2nd note interval on that Animals bass riff should be a 5th, not a 3rd.

@bassfiddlesteve

2 жыл бұрын

That really bothered me.

@maskedmarauder3278

Жыл бұрын

My thoughts also.

@eigenbroetler321

3 ай бұрын

I assume it was to nod to the riff without doing a straight up copy and being forced into all the YT and copyright red tape

Something in between like semi-rounds would also be interesting.

what colour finish is on that the second starfire?

@curtanderson4953

4 жыл бұрын

That's cherry Red. guildguitars.com/g/starfire-bass-ii-in-cherry-red/

What’s that first song after he speaks? I know the riff, but just can’t think of the name

@StratocastRS

4 жыл бұрын

weve got to get out of this place. the animals

@OspreyD40

4 жыл бұрын

@@StratocastRS The riff isn't correct, but it's what he intends. The second note should be the 5th, not the 3rd. "We Gotta Get Out Of This Place". Note, the version most of us Americans know, with the "See my Daddy.." as the lyric is different from the British other version with the "Watch my Daddy lyric" I prefer the whole vocal treatment of the American release, but perhaps just because it's what I grew up with.

Exactly my thought with the 2nd example!!...Rickenbacker sound!!...

tape-wound strings have a different sound altogether

Play some Jefferson Airplane, Jack Casady always used a Guild Starfire, albeit heavily modified

@OspreyD40

4 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/eaOTp5asZsXKdqjM.htmlttps://kzread.info/dash/bejne/eaOTp5asZsXKdqg.html on a Gretsch Junior Jet II (short scale) with round wounds.)

@OspreyD40

3 жыл бұрын

Mr. Casady can be seen in various youtube-available videos from concerts and several TV shows with a big, long-scale Fender. Played 'Somebody To Love' mostly with the first 5 frets and a bit of open strings.

We Gotta Get ot of this Place, by The Animals.

For the classic choice, get a set of Pyramid gold Flatwound shiortscale strings… same strings Phil Lesh used and very similar to the Framus strings Jack Cassidy used..

@jazzman1954

3 жыл бұрын

Actually most of the British bands used Rotosound flats or round strings on their bass tracks. So they should be part of the equation. I use Rotosound flats and they are good and they last forever with a little care.

Nice. very nice. but I prefer the Epiphone Rumblekat

Um... that first jump should be to the 5th, not the 3rd. in Chas Chandler's bass line for We Gotta Get Out Of This Place.

@Habs8691

4 жыл бұрын

Not only that but Chas played an Epiphone Rivoli.

@OspreyD40

4 жыл бұрын

@@Habs8691 Wouldn't you know, my tech Jon Mouradian, who has worked on gear for Boston area famous musicians as well as blokes like me, has a Rivoli. When he first showed me a massive old pickup he had in a drawer, telling me he got it to put in his "Rivoli", I didn't have any idea what that was! I think the bass guy for The Strypes was using one - or something like it -on the groups Letterman appearance, a few years back. kzread.info/dash/bejne/c4pos8uSmbasfto.html&start_radio=1

@Habs8691

4 жыл бұрын

@@OspreyD40 The Rivoli was reissued from '93'99 as a Korean made bass. All of those Hollow bodies sound great with flatwounds.

@OspreyD40

4 жыл бұрын

@@Habs8691 I can't show a photo here but I have a 1965/66 Framus Star Bass, which I got because Bill Wyman played Framus. I had no idea of short scale (which it is) versus long scale, I just ordered it, playing for about 4 years while in college. (Into a 1965 Hilgen Basso Grande amp and its 2 x 12" speaker. ) Guitar tech wizard Jon Mouradian brought the Star Bass back into playable condition a few years back -serious surgery needed because the laminated body collapses - and it's a fine thing. I asked Jon to machine out the slots in the harp tailpiece so it could accept ordinary strings. The slots were super-arrow, made specifically for the narrow-ended Framus strings. Because of the total working string length, nut to tailpiece, it requires long scale strings, which offers a lot of choices.

@Habs8691

4 жыл бұрын

@@OspreyD40 Framus Star basses might be able to use La Bella strings. Many of those obscure basses use pretty specific strings. La Bella makes strings for my Hofner.

Flatwounds sounds better, i don't really like Roundwounds, they sound too thin and guitar-ish, you virtually kill all fatness that could have a low output bass pickup.

The rounds sound horrible on this bass.

Chas Chandler played an Epiphone EB2.

@jeffkahl

4 жыл бұрын

Or an Epiphone Rivoli

Rounds sound like a guitar trying to sound like a bass. Flats is were the tone is at.

Ernie Ball cobalt flatwounds!! Clarity and fatness!!👍

drop the pick on reviews

Fucking snobism with roundwound strings. They sound like if you play a wire

Shame you used a pick. Really takes away from the natural sound of the strings.

@lk63

Жыл бұрын

99 percent of bass players used a pick in the 60's.

@ryderdejong

11 ай бұрын

@@lk63agreed

I read an article by an audio engineer a few years ago...he tested the frequency response of different scale length basses at every point on the neck, with both flats & rounds, and the results showed that a short scale bass with flat wounds has the most even response across the neck of any of the 4. Rounds are SO trebly, why would you want rounds unless you're Entwistle?

@jasondorsey7110

Жыл бұрын

I split my signal like the dude from Royal Blood, and I have to use roundwounds because the flats sound too dull and lifeless to pull off the octave-up guitar sound convincingly...and I used to string practically all my basses with flats