The Kenobi video is next.

@injustice184

Жыл бұрын

I know this might be an annoying question, and feel free to ignore it, but are you going to do a video on Superman & Lois Season 2?

@SheevTalks

Жыл бұрын

@@injustice184 Nah, it doesn’t need one

@TheHaydenAlexander

Жыл бұрын

@@SheevTalks lmao rip

@injustice184

Жыл бұрын

@@SheevTalks Fair enough. This video on The Flash was great, as usual.

@scourgeofyoutube9448

Жыл бұрын

Looking forward to it!

The actress who plays Cecile must have some kind of dirt on the showrunners for her to be in the show this much

@DanielHernandez-gx4kh

Жыл бұрын

She used her empath powers to get some blackmail.

@oneandonlysound3453

Жыл бұрын

It's not like I really want to see more of most of the current cast given they are poor substitutes or have been irrelevant. But she's been overused since the near end of season 4 and this is why I have to agree 100%.

@Rizzinator11

Жыл бұрын

lol I agree

@christiantrent1030

Жыл бұрын

I fr hate her character, like her powers suck and I can’t stand it

@noamasaf2668

Жыл бұрын

i can feel that you’re upset about her being in the show

Not only does the fabric of time and space use earth’s time telling system, but it also uses central city’s time zone apparently

@smarvysmarv8735

Жыл бұрын

Omg. I was thinking the exact same thing. Like why not UTC?

@blueguygaming1330

Жыл бұрын

Chad Tepig pfp

@CallMeSaltyScorpion

Жыл бұрын

Is there any other time zone?

@thebstever

Жыл бұрын

@@CallMeSaltyScorpion you're joking right ?

@CallMeSaltyScorpion

Жыл бұрын

@@thebstever Yes. But I can understand why it would not look like I was.

Fun fact: on the Brazilian dub, they forgot to edit out flash's Brazilian voice actor saying "look at this shit dialogue". Even the VAs are tired of this shit lmao

@tadpolegaming4510

Жыл бұрын

Clip?

@rivalflash4569

Жыл бұрын

wasn’t that a fan dub

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

@@rivalflash4569 it was

@typicalfella

Жыл бұрын

@@rivalflash4569 8t wasn't

@pedrolib

Жыл бұрын

Olha que diálogo merda kkkkkk

When flash said “time to flash” and started flashing everybody, it brought a tear to my eye

@yakatsusensei325

Жыл бұрын

Had to do a double take on this one

@falc0n2222

Жыл бұрын

Bro what 💀

@TheBleachj16

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like Erza Miller's Flash

@Belan01

Жыл бұрын

Its flashin time

@ddomenicoeeziommancini

Жыл бұрын

It's flashin time⚡⚡⚡

Hope your grandma recovers before flash season 9...

@_Xzever_

Жыл бұрын

She'll need to heal faster than barry then, so that cw can fling her tf back down them stairs again.

@nabongobong9155

Жыл бұрын

I feel bad for his grandma more than anyone on the show at this point

@damarkomoore5236

Жыл бұрын

At least it’s the final one.

@to3438

Жыл бұрын

cw ends with the flash s8

@zqninja3334

Жыл бұрын

She is gonna need the Speed force to protect her.

22:27 I’m surprised you didn’t mention how in season two, Joe literally immediately shot at Harry three times because he thought he was Thawne. It’s a massive leap to think Joe doesn’t want Thawne dead lmaoo

@tinygreencreature5167

Жыл бұрын

For Joe it was ON SIGHT with thawne. It really annoyed me that Joe was the one to say they should rescue him DIRECTLY after thawne killing him was reversed and while thawne is actively gloating. Especially after the newbie "uwu hurting people is bad" peeps immediately got told to shut the fuck up cuz their opinion doesn't matter. It really was a good episode up until that moment.

@nabongobong9155

Жыл бұрын

Yeah the Joe from season 2 would def want that bastard to be 6 ft under the ground

@Delta_2209

Жыл бұрын

"You're Thawne Harry" - Joe Mama

@memestrous

Жыл бұрын

Yeah like I was surprised Joe would even say that like it felt so random

@marocat4749

Жыл бұрын

Yes that is weird as he literally would hav killed harry wrent it for barry intervening and guaranteeing him it isnt thawne.

I have a theory that Cecil isn't a empath anymore but she wants to convince everyone that she still is so she usually points out the obvious to pretend she still has it

@keina123

11 ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@Reac2

10 ай бұрын

So she's just a real life empath

@leeleechi6560

10 ай бұрын

@@Reac2 *yes*

Thawne's ability to negate being erased from existence stems from the comics where he is a living paradox basically making him immune to any timeline changes he or anyone causes to himself. Now the issue is, if you didn't know this then thawne existing past season one makes no form of sense and the way the show tries to handle it only makes it more confusing.

@Ghostsimp2

Жыл бұрын

Exactly they could have just done what they did in the comics but no why do that😒

@hollowcloplover9539

Жыл бұрын

Im thinking that RF in the Show is immune to timeline changes due to him being the avatar of the negative speedforce

@shyanhayder7565

Жыл бұрын

Actually no, the show did explain that the negative speed force is immune to timeline changes during the season 5 finale during the Nora and Thawne storyline. So Thawne existing makes sense.

@indrainspace2601

Жыл бұрын

@@shyanhayder7565 ok now explain how the negative speed force is immune to timeline changes.

@diamondkonk1196

Жыл бұрын

@@indrainspace2601 Explain to me how the speed force does anything, plot

Every year, the CW surprises me with how little quality control they actually have.

@jaypegasi3769

Жыл бұрын

Literally I think the writers get high and go 'lmao what if we shower the viewers what it's like to do shrooms'

@Enja___

Жыл бұрын

Did someone say Quality Control?

@ninjanibba4259

11 ай бұрын

​@@jaypegasi3769 no no....Legends writers were on shrooms and actually worked out....Flash writers don't care and stopped caring about their characters

@haku8135

11 ай бұрын

I think gotham knights is the lowest they can go. If they can go lower. We're all doomed.

@acewmd.

10 ай бұрын

@@ninjanibba4259ok because legends is actually so bad it’s entertaining, and the actors are really clearly loving every minute of it. They’re really having fun writing such random and yet still somehow connected plots even when it makes no sense, they aren’t taking it seriously at all and it shows. Flash tries to be serious but fails. Also legends straight up tells us the characters are the least important people rip could find, they aren’t special really, not smart not really anything other than disposable. So when we see them mess up it’s expected and doesn’t require much to believe. It’s had it moments of being terrible but generally it’s enjoyably bad.

Every time you show a clip from The Boys you remind us all of how that show is on a complete different level than The Flash.

@Narrowdark

Жыл бұрын

My first thought was "ahh a good show"

@CHIEF__

Жыл бұрын

@@jeggsonvohees2201 Everyone should know season 2 was weak but I wouldn't call it bad. Even The Boys at its worst is better than 95% of shows, ofc it has its problems.

@comixproviderftw_02

Жыл бұрын

Superhero shows have truly evolved since 2014

@defenderofminorities3056

Жыл бұрын

@@jeggsonvohees2201 ah yes because a bunch of miserable nitpickers dictate wether a show is good! of course!

@acario100

Жыл бұрын

@@jeggsonvohees2201 the uh... Video where he says he likes it and just has problems? Edit. Oh. You mean that mauler BS. I thought you meant a respectable review LOL

Cecile sensing stuff got so old so quick, she sensed stuff that the viewers are clearly aware of but i guess it’s important that she states what the character was feeling even tho we’re smart enough to figure it out, someone could get shot and Cecile would say “i’m sensing your pain since you got shot” it was so poorly done, do children write this show?

@Xehanort10

Жыл бұрын

Confrontations with villains have now become like Dora the Explorer saying "Swiper no swiping" with criminals instantly reforming when Barry tells them to stop.

@queerantine69

Жыл бұрын

Me: shit, they're onto us Johnny junior

@samseungg

Жыл бұрын

cecile completely reminds me of that “i am an empath” meme SOO MUCH

@rockypikmin4493

Жыл бұрын

Me, (cecile) an empath, sensing that you're sad when I walk in on you crying

@goosegas2087

Жыл бұрын

@@Xehanort10 Nonsense, Swiper has the drive to continue doing it It's what he loves.

Thawne is like William Afton at first everybody found it interesting now they always come back in a more absurd way

@Whiteythereaper

Жыл бұрын

Oh look, another series aimed at children while being designed for young adults

@justice8718

11 ай бұрын

Except William Afton is essentially a fake identity anyone poses as.

@nathanpierce7681

2 ай бұрын

"it was ME, henry. I killed the children and stuffed their bodies in the animatronics!"

So Thawn’s motivation is basically at the level of Mr. Nobody from Doom Patrol, except in that show it was actually treated as the joke that it was

@BIGD-cc7ru

Жыл бұрын

I mean.... in the comics it’s very similar. He was stopping crimes he organized to make him look like a hero, flags stops him, he realizes he is supposed to become flash’s biggest rival, and then turns into reverse flash.

@AzguardMike

Жыл бұрын

in the comic he is soo petty he erased his own brother from the timeline because he was more popular. Then he erased a girl he had a crush on because she wasnt interested. He pushed Baby Barry down the stairs, stole his toys, and a direct quote "It was me Barry. I was the monster under your bed. The Demon in the closet. I was every bad day you ever had. It was me, Barry. It was always me."

@Ponakalaranjit456

Жыл бұрын

@@AzguardMike That Bastard!!!!!!!!!!!!

@jirito7470

Жыл бұрын

I mean the show is pretty accurate to the comics

@wesleygriffiths8748

Жыл бұрын

@@AzguardMike To be fair, his brother was an asshole, but aside from that that’s absolutely correct.

Well Eric Wallace, the guy who came onto the show as a writer for multiple episodes in S4, became an executive producer in S5, and became the prime and only showrunner in S6, did say that he wants young people to watch the show at DC Fandome for S7. I'm pretty certain by now that what he really meant was little children, maybe up to 12 year olds.

@hollowcloplover9539

Жыл бұрын

Never heard him say that thing with the children, but in retrospect it makes sense now

@hollowcloplover9539

Жыл бұрын

While watching s7 for the first time I had the thoughts of „hey this feels like its directed towards kids“ Guess I wasn’t so wrong with that thought

@Dhruv-qw7jf

Жыл бұрын

@@hollowcloplover9539 he didn't explicitly said "children", but I'm pretty sure he said he wanted "young people" who are new to comics to not feel alienated, to not feel like where's _my_ villain (as in where's the villain that I'm used to seeing in the comics), just the way he said it in the panel made it feel like he was referring to little children. You can watch that panel in the first DC Fandome event ever (forgot the year but maybe 2020), I'm pretty sure the whole panel is available on KZread. It was around 20-30 minutes long. Just look for The Flash Season 7 DC Fandome Panel or something.

@hollowcloplover9539

Жыл бұрын

@@Dhruv-qw7jf I will gonna look it up right now, never heard of that fandome thing, thanks!

@nehattahsin3990

Жыл бұрын

Honestly that would make sense. My 11 year old brother would watch this show and find no problem at all and rather think its cool. But still like it was good and it can still be like it was in the earlier seasons and kids can watch it too.

fun fact: the Mach 20 speed that barry needs to reach in season 7 would be around 20 thousand miles per hour. Barry moved faster than a bolt of lightening in season 1. Thunderbolts travel at around 270 thousand miles per hour. So much for becoming faster each season.

@thomasraines1396

Жыл бұрын

Exactly it’s crazy.

@Reac2

10 ай бұрын

It's also important to note that that speed is only relative to earth. Earth itself is constantly hurtling through space at 67 thousand miles per hour. So how can anything going a third of the speed the earth is already moving, suddenly destroy the world? There is an easy fix too, just gonna pull this out of my ass: "Barry needs to ACCELERATE (not be a certain speed) at a certain rate to travel through time, but in this specific instance he would have to accelerate so fast that his atomic structure would just disintegrate, which the speedforce (canonically) prevents. But to prevent him from disintegrating from accelerating SO fast, there is an equal and opposite reaction. The energy the speedforce needs to counteract the acceleration killing him, it takes by directly terminating atoms into pure energy. The speedforce can handle this at normal acceleration, because it uses the energy instantaneously, so there isn't any explosion or some such. But at that level the speedforce itself can't keep up and would produce more energy than it would use and the leftover energy would nuke the planet." There you go writers, a freebie.

@LoafofSoap

7 ай бұрын

Mach 20 is 15,000… not even close to 20,000

@ult1mat392

3 ай бұрын

9 months late lol but tje shows explanation id that barry is much slower cuz he had black lightning drain his speed. Make of that what u will

I actually love how Thawne keeps becoming pettier and pettier as the show goes on. He isn't the cold and calculated mastermind that he desperately wants people to think he is.

@akwilson1676

Жыл бұрын

@film fan Yes that's why I said he became pettier as the show went on. This season is downright the pettiest he has ever been.

@tbuckley2031

Жыл бұрын

He’s terrifying on the surface level he’s read absolutely every possibility and timeline essentially making him a hive mind of multiple clones around time with the same goal however his way of being a hive mind is through being a sociopath and never learning anything outside of furthering his goals leaving him exactly the same in every copy

@dishansinghmehta8891

Жыл бұрын

but he is the cold calculated mastermind , how do you think the it was me barry meme got famous ,cause he is that way, plus yeah he is petty .

@carlosleoni5321

Жыл бұрын

@@akwilson1676 but that's what make him less and less intimidating to the point where he couldn't even be considered the nemesis he once was (and he didn't tried to be a mastermind, he actually was in the first season)

@JashXD

Жыл бұрын

he was stupid asf from the pilot episode lmao

His motivation in the reveal isn't even accurate. In the comics he used to idolize Barry and went back in time to meet his idol after doing a bunch of very illegal shit to get his powers. After going through all of these loops to make it happen, he learns that he becomes his arch nemesis and it drives him insane. But his reason for not killing Barry and killing his mother instead was because he knows that if he does HE WON'T FUCKING EXIST. That's why he goes out of his way to ruin Barry's life, because he felt cheated by his hero and time itself. This whole, "I want to be faster so I can save more people," thing is original to the show and stupid. I don't know how/why they messed up such an easy motivation for the sake of being different from the comics

@Vegitodraws

Жыл бұрын

@film fan that's still a stupid ass motivation. You're mad because an established hero stole your thunder as you are a literal nobody. So your response is to kill the mans mother? That's dumb asf

@ivanagustinortiz5237

Жыл бұрын

I mean, this is old news, season 2 Thawne told this if I recall correctly, so they even retconned Thawne's origin to a worse one.

@Vegitodraws

Жыл бұрын

@@ivanagustinortiz5237 you're right. I remember that scene. It was back when they remembered that he wasn't supposed to look like Wells. So not only did they ignore the comics, they ignored their own lore lmfao 🤣

@ivanagustinortiz5237

Жыл бұрын

@@Vegitodraws just came back from rewatching the scene, Matt goes so hard as Thawne, man. And exactly, Eric Wallace really just said "fuck the previous seasons, we'll conveniently pick and choose flashbacks and force feed them to the audience so our bs storylines are somewhat explained"

@Xehanort10

Жыл бұрын

@@ivanagustinortiz5237 Wallace only cares about rubbing one out to Iris and Cecile.

The thing that makes the whole saving eobard thing make even less sense is that Joe in season 2 legit tried to murk Harry wells just by proxy of sharing his face. So him being the one to try and talk down Barry is werider.

@BlackMigoReacts

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 oh yeah he did i remember that yeah Joe was just a shadow and i was like what the hell i didn’t even know Joe got resurrected

@carlosleoni5321

Жыл бұрын

And from all the main cast, he is easily the one who had killed more people before, _in the pilot he literally kills the villain for much less_

@Hollowmello1285

Жыл бұрын

@@carlosleoni5321 i mean he was about to kill the flash

@vgngolley341

Жыл бұрын

@@Hollowmello1285 And the Reverse Flash killer Nora and various other innocent people and plus tried to kill Flash, the cast, various heroes, and even Joe as well. Joe wanting to save Eobard makes no sense whatsoever

@Hollowmello1285

Жыл бұрын

@@vgngolley341 true

Am I the only one who thinks that Eddie should've just shot the reverse flash while his back was turned. If it worked on Barry, Savitar and zoom then I'm sure it would've worked on the reverse flash but I guess they had to get rid of Eddie somehow for Barry and Iris to get together.

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

Bullets don’t exactly work well on speedsters when they know its coming

@ItsRemmyy

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackbirdRX He didn't see it coming. He was too busy talking

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

@@ItsRemmyy speed react is a thing

@ItsRemmyy

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackbirdRX Zoom was shot and Barry was stabbed by a manual weapon. It's a thing when it's convenient in the moment.

@haku8135

11 ай бұрын

@@ItsRemmyy Wasn't Savitar literally shot in the back by Iris? This is really just another example of them NOT knowing how to handle Flash's powers. Super speed is majorly overpowered. We literally see Barry get shot in the back of the neck, and WHILE the bullet is still in the process of piercing his skin, he just reaches behind himself and grabs it, making the bullet totally useless. So that SHOULD establish that every speedster at LEAST as fast as Barry was at that time (which is EVERY speedster after that moment cause otherwise they'd just be a non-threat) is immune to bullets, cause they can just grab them before they break their skin even if shot in a sneak attack. However that means they would need to actually work to resolve conflicts. So they just ignore it when convenient. Like EVERY time Barry fights fucking Snart.

Since they introduced the multiverse almost immediately in season 2, all they really had to do in later seasons was say "this Thawne that you erased is from your timeline, this here Thawne comes from the multiverse version that defeated and erased his Barry from existence; he found out about the multiverse, couldn't accept his parallel-self's failure and decided to conquer other worlds". Make it apparent slowly, drop hints in the subsequent seasons until you decide to drop the show, and in the finale of finales you send Barry to fix the Thawne-won version of the Earth.

@Kronosfobi

Жыл бұрын

Didnt even need that much complication. We KNOW for a fact that timeline changes to your own doesnt affect other universes as Harry commented on it on S3 (If I remember correctly). All they had to do was saying ''He IS your Reverse Flash, but this one was on a different universe during erasure and survived.'' He can still exist as a time remnant, he can still be the threat we know without any more bullshit.

@the_only_lonely

2 ай бұрын

Crisis?

The thawne paradox you talk about at the start would've been so easy for the writers to fix. They introduce the multiverse in flash season 2, have the legends of tomorrow thawne come from earth 2, get stranded, and then decide to go fuck with the legends. That way the events of season 1 still happen.

@tinygreencreature5167

Жыл бұрын

The legends thawne I believe was first described in his legends season as being the flash s1 thawne who is trying to outrun the paradox and avoid black flash. That's why his whole goal is to rewrite destiny so it wouldn't be a paradox. I'm pretty sure him being from flashpoint is a s8 thing but I could be misremembering things

@moth5799

Жыл бұрын

@@tinygreencreature5167 Outrunning the paradox is dumb too, we saw him die in flash s1, he already failed to outrun it, why has thawne come back again?

@tinygreencreature5167

Жыл бұрын

@@moth5799 ikr he literally disintegrate. I THINK the reasoning is that he's a time remnant and is mostly trying to outrun black flash who knows he shouldn't exist. The legends even ends that season going "fuck it if he's using time remnants and paradoxes then we will too" and just go back to an earlier battle to help themselves. All of them get killed in the process, leaving the earlier versions alive and well with the day saved for them essentially. It's a paradox and acknowledged as such, but I honestly really like that as a counter to RF's entire existence as a paradox

@tuffdude7795

Жыл бұрын

@@moth5799 Because he was the Thawne from Flashpoint not season 1.

@ivanagustinortiz5237

Жыл бұрын

@@tinygreencreature5167 that's it. Season 1 Thawne got Marty McFly'd, but Season 2 Thawne is basically protected by the Negative Speedforce and an Avengers Endgame scenario, then Flashpoint Thawne is one time remanent that is a paradox and as explained by Zoom, those are damned, in Thawne's case, he's directly being hunted by Hunter Zolomon as Black Flash. But yet again, as there are a lot of Eobard Wells' and just Eobard's that are protected by either the Speedforce or nexus/fixed points in time, that one time remanent from Crisis on Earth-X survived somehow or got created as soon as Black Flash died. Being that version the one we saw pretty much until he died now in season 8 (although he died pretty much three different times before this one). Let's hope they actually get their shit together and they start using younger Thawne again, the true Thawne played by Matt Letscher.

You know what could’ve been an interesting origin story for how Thawne grew to hate Barry? Have Thawne explain that he wanted to be a speedster because he saw the way The Flash did things as flawed. The Flash didn’t kill and he thought that if he was a speedster he could show everyone how easier things would be if the criminals who committed crimes were simply removed from society. However once he got his speed and started saving the day his way, people inherently knew that it was wrong for one man to be judge jury and executioner. However instead of changing his mind, he instead decided that people not liking his methods must only be because The Flash is around doing things differently. So in this case his hatred for The Flash is fueled by his own ideals and not petty jealousy. Or maybe that would suck just as much idk I’m not a screenwriter.

@IMP0ST0R

Жыл бұрын

Wow 💯

@Xaveze

Жыл бұрын

@@filiparican1863 ah. I’m guessing the execution is still better in the comics though, right?

@justifano7046

Жыл бұрын

​​@@Xaveze it is. But damn Thawnes petty af. He once pushed kid Barry down some stairs, and made him lose his homework, and one time left Barry's door open so Barry's dog could runaway

@ghetis396

Жыл бұрын

​@@justifano7046 This has the same energy as Lex Luthor stealing 40 cakes. That's as many as four tens. And that's terrible

@Velocity_YT

Жыл бұрын

Actually...that does sound a lot better but Thawne would sound a lot more like Godspeed from the comics instead. I like your idea better though. Or they could make it that once Thawne got his speed, he accidently travels back in time and figure out he becomes The Flash's greatest enemy and it drives him mad causing him to become the Reverse Flash.

It seemed like the writers main goal since season 5 has been...."How little can we use Barry and focus on everyone else without pissing off the audience?"

The thing about the Flash that makes me the most frustrated is the wasted potential with every story. Every season Eric Wallace has directed I've only loved because of the concepts. (The death of the speed force, the Godspeed war, the introduction of three new forces, etc.) Shit like that sounds so fun on paper and yet the Flash finds a way to do the lamest versions of every story it presents each time. It doesn't help that Eric Wallace doesn't look at any online Flash stuff. He lives in a bubble that ultimately makes any criticisms the fans have about the show null and void.

I'm surprised you didn't say much about Caitlin resurrecting Frost, which really annoyed me. The plot just fully character assassinates Caitlin in numerous ways that seriously makes Dr. Strange look like the smartest character alive in No Way Home. I mean, the premise is her bringing back someone, which was a big mistake she should've learned from Deathstorm. What's worse she even tries to tempt Barry into bringing back his parents, which just sounds like what a villain says. People seem to hate on Scarlet Witch being a villain in MOM. But her turn at least had a believable foundation and set up with the Darkhold. The problem is her being a villain was underwhelming since it's right after her development in Wandavision. Say what you will, but her turn was miles better than whatever Caitlin just did this season.

@ayush4731

Жыл бұрын

Bro, when you're talking details about one show, doesn't mean you can give spoilers about any other movie/show that you need to bring up for your argument. Come on man, I haven't seen MOM! Should have given a spoiler warning.

@kenman1303

Жыл бұрын

@@ayush4731 tbf, mom has been in theaters already and on disney plus for almost a month now

@jaxxpool9630

Жыл бұрын

@@ayush4731 Oh crud. I’m so sorry, pal. I assumed it was okay now that movie is two months old, but I guess I got carried away.

@ayush4731

Жыл бұрын

@@jaxxpool9630 It's alright man, I guess I will just pretend that I didn't read anything.

@ayush4731

Жыл бұрын

@JakeDJY I'm not telling others to not give spoilers, just saying that they could've given a spoiler warning.

Ryan's speech about love being just a chemical thing feels weird. This *is* Ryan Choi, Paragon of Humanity, who had a wife and daughter during Crisis, right?

@mangonite7426

Жыл бұрын

I think in that timeline he doesn't have a daughter or wife but being a dick cause of it was still weird.

@SWTobito0702

Жыл бұрын

I'm gonna assume you didn't watch season 8. The Ryan Choi we see during season 8 is not the same one from Crisis. The alterations to the timeline affected Ryan as well. In Reverse Flashpoint he never had a wife or kids.

@helixsol7171

Жыл бұрын

@@SWTobito0702 Right, I forgot to account for that, but it still felt weird while I was watching season 8

@Xehanort10

Жыл бұрын

"Love's just a chemical" sounds like what a pretentious incel would say.

@tinygreencreature5167

Жыл бұрын

@@SWTobito0702 I thought he went back to his wife and kid at the end of crisis because they were restored?

Seasons can start strong easy. The real test of each season comes in the second half. They can either fail to keep the threat from the start of the season going strong enough to be interesting in the second count or fail to introduce a secondary threat to wrap up the season to match the threat that took place in the first half of the season.

Flash, Season 8 was definitely one of the Flash seasons of all time

25:26 And you know what? That’s pretty much exactly how he’s used in the comics. The writers had the blueprint right in front of them and just went “nah I don’t really feel like it!” ARGH!!! 25:46 And this would have been SO cool! Smh

@comixproviderftw_02

Жыл бұрын

We could’ve had “Every second is a gift”.

I love how stiff the suits are. It made me laugh for so long seeing the reverse flash waddle around because, how tf can they run so fast in a suit that is about as flexible as a 2x4

It really is a shame. Thawne deserves so much better than what the writers have made him into. I honestly just feel bad for him, going from one of the most amazing villains in the arrowverse, to being as derpy as the rest of the flash nowadays 😔

@unstrungbeauty7208

Жыл бұрын

What a shame to see that this season made Thawne a complete joke he gets dumbed down, his motivation sucks, he gets petty for a stupid reason just, because "the Flash steal his spotlight". His costume looks stupid and made him less threaten and dangerous that he is in season 1.

@carlosleoni5321

Жыл бұрын

@@unstrungbeauty7208 the bright yellow really takes away his menace

@Velocity_YT

Жыл бұрын

Yup...(sigh)

@Velocity_YT

Жыл бұрын

@@unstrungbeauty7208 Agreed

@Velocity_YT

Жыл бұрын

@@carlosleoni5321 Not really. What really took away his menace was the fact that his suit looks like an over priced PJ

In case anyone is wondering, there is a Marvel Universe equivalent to this kind of badly written villain. He's an X-Men enemy named Stryfe. He's also come back to life multiple times after being killed and his motivation is just as silly. He hate Cable (his brother) and his father Cyclops for loving Cable more than him. Sheev, you should do a video showing why Eobard on the show is a bad villain using the The Joker in The Dark Knight as a comparison.

@eghoseisiramen1892

Жыл бұрын

Isn’t stryfe just cable but from another universe??

@StephenLeGresley

Жыл бұрын

@@eghoseisiramen1892 Stryfe is a clone of Cable created when Cable was infected with the technovirus because they were scared he wouldn't survive.

@zemox2534

Жыл бұрын

For the record Reverse Flash is a much better villain in the comics

@soberchimera61

Жыл бұрын

I would argue that Tom Cavanaugh’s Reverse-Flash in S1 (and the little bit we got in S2) is up there with Vincent D’Onofrio’s Kingpin in DD. However, making Harrison Wells an actual person instead of just an alias just to keep Cavanaugh in the show has definitely soured the character for me.

@StephenLeGresley

Жыл бұрын

@@soberchimera61 It's actually kind of funny that this show has gone in reverse of what typically happens in TV shows. Normally the first season of a show is just ok because the actors and writers are still sort of figuring it all out and then it normally hits is highs in the middle like Star Trek: TNG or DS9 for example. But this show peaked in it's first season. it's middle seasons are hot garbage to say the least so Thawne must've been working some meta magic to effect the show he's in overall. lol

"The fact that season 1 shouldn't of been POSSIBLE is kinda a hilarious way to start off your story" IT IS LOL

@jake12466

3 ай бұрын

@zqninja3334 - It's "shouldn't've" (should-not-have), not "shouldn't of."

I’m not sure if he already said this in the video but it feels infuriating they couldn’t use the original face instead of Tom Cavanaugh. This became noticeable in the Earth-X crossover ongoing.

@zqninja3334

Жыл бұрын

In Earth X he said he liked to use the face.

@sammybutler3027

Жыл бұрын

Matt Lescher is an amazing and underrated actor they definitely should’ve used him more

why didn’t they just go the comic route where Thawne is a living paradox and thats why he cant die no matter what

I don't even watch the show anymore, I just watch videos like this which talk and rip into the show because it's infinitely more enjoyable. (Great vid btw keep it up)

The whole 'how does Thawne exist after season 1' to me could have had a simple explanation in season 2 that I initially thought they were setting up, but they never followed through with. As you mentioned had Thawne never existed season 1 and all of the events prior to it such as the death of Barry's mother would never have happened, which is why him being erased caused the whole interdimensional rift/black hole/whatever at the end of season 1, but in the season 2 premiere they stop it from destroying their universe. By stopping it and saving their universe they just needed to say the Reverse Flash clearly isn't erased anymore, they all still remember him, Barry's mother was still murdered by him, so just have someone say something like 'Eddie killing himself would have erased Thawne and thus our universe, but because we stopped our universe from being erased we therefore stopped Thawne from being erased'. That's a pretty clear cut explanation that makes sense, and seeing as the Thawne we meet in season 2 is an earlier version of him just say that Eddie's actions now resulted in Thawne dying rather than being erased. The Thawne we saw in season 1 was clearly towards the end of his rivalry with Barry, he said they've been enemies for years, so just have every version we see afterwards be his younger self who isn't concerned with getting back home and is focused solely on ruining Barry's life, so by the end of the show we've caught up to the character we see in season 1. The whole thing with Reverse Flash constantly dying and coming back was addressed in the Rebirth comics in a hilarious way after his skeleton is found at the start of Doomsday Clock. His skeletal remains are in a morgue, then a narration basically says 'he's a living paradox so he'll always come back' as his body regrows and comes back to life. It's so lazy but I also kind of appreciate that writer saying 'fuck it, he'll always come back who cares why or how'. Either way its a shame because if they kept up the quality of the first season and used him more sparingly, Thawne could have and should have been terrifying in every appearance he was in much like Homelander in the Boys, just a completely unhinged and all powerful monster.

@Kronosfobi

Жыл бұрын

Actually yeah this would've been perfect for Flash and the general tone of the show. You want to do the right thing, but at what cost? Erasing RF will not only make your lives better, but countless others. On the other hand, it also means the complete destruction of your existence. Show also could use this as a stepping stone to excuse why Barry hates changing the timeline. Because each time he does it, EVERYTHING he cares for is simply erased out of existence and only he remains since he was in between universes. This also would make his eventual creation of Flashpoint much more heavier because he *knew* the consequenses of possible changes and did it anyways. It also makes Savitar much more ruthless Barry who doesnt give a shit. It ALSO makes Crisis on Infinite Earth's storyline better by extension since Barry gets a chance to redeem himself. Show could have been so much better if it didnt back down from the risks it dared to take every 2 minutes.

@poijnve3912

11 ай бұрын

yeiy 11 months late... that still doesnt make sense cus well that eddie isn't reverse flash grand-grand-grand grandfather... they are straight up in a different timeline where barry mother dies, so that eddie isn't related to that flash reverse... so he shouldn't be erreased out of existence cus eddie soduko himself, but rather cus thawne mcffly himself out of existence by change the timeline to our curren't timelines... that is why the "he is a living paradox" reason works so well, it not just the writer going fuck it, by that point in time, barry and other speedster have fuck around with the timeline so many times, but not as much as thawn himself... at that point he as being the castalist of so many events and died in so many different times, that he doesn't longer has a past or future, he just exist. he became a constant of the universe, he exist cus he has to exist simple as that, the universe doesn't puffed out of it cus he suppose to be there. so that is really the only explanation of why thawn always come back, it cus he is just a universal constant

I seriously laughed out loud at joe yelling at Barry and iris about letting thawne die

Every time I heard the term "Level Up", or Cecile said "feel" or "sense" this season I wanted to burn down a building with myself inside it

I JUST WATCHED THE PREVIOUS EPISODE OF THIS YESTERDAY! WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!

I stopped watching Flash quite a while ago, but this reveal of motivation makes even less sense seeing as Matt's Eobard already revealed his motivation in the season 2 episode. It's basically him telling Flash that he went back in time to meet his idol only to learn that he is destined to be his Reverse. Season 8 can only be explained as Eobard being crazy or literally a different person entirely. Do keep in mind that Flash season 2 Matt's Eobard is the youngest we've ever seen thus being before the stupid Matt/Tom split.

I'm definitely one of those "thanks for saving me from wanting to watch this" fans. Flash is one of my alltime favorite characters. Always tied with Green Lantern for my favorite super hero. I will say despite the shows downfalls I do think Grant Gustin has done a hell of a job wearing the many suits, not looking too goofy, and capturing the vibe I get from Barry Allen. I'm weird and wish they made him go blonde but that's just a style thing. Great video as always man

Joe even tried to kill earth 2 Harry the second he saw him by shooting him, thinking he was Eobard in season 2, so I don’t see why they’d change him like that

Yo the face rip was straight out of the comics and i love that they even attempted it.

@pitchups7491

Жыл бұрын

i actually liked this season, it was pretty good

@randallflagg3700

Жыл бұрын

I didn't watch season 8 after *Armageddon* , but I decided to watch the last 3 episodes since I'm a RF simp, and they brought his 2 actors back, and I wanted to see the Diggle scene, and I skipped all the scenes about the losers who replaced Cisco and Catelin... and the moment Thawne ripped his face off was one of the best parts of those last 3 episodes. His negative costume could have been good too, had they spend more efforts on the mask, and made it more comfy so it didn't look like RF was constipated every time he took a step. I so wish that this show had been somehow finished after season 3, have it end the same way with Barry deciding "screw it I'm going full flashpoint" and end it... and there so we would have fond memories of it. Same for *Arrow* , with a few minor tweaks it could have ended after season 5, which would have tied up his 5 years marooned nicely. Maybe have the secondary characters of both shows get some satisfying endings in *Legends of Tomorrow* , like it did for John Constantine after his solo show got unjustly cancelled after 1 cool season? Maybe have Diggle become a Green Lantern in Legends, Black Siren redeem herself in it too (her redemption arc was one of the things I enjoyed in later season of *Arrow* ), and... Oh well, it does not do well to dwell on paths not taken, or something. I just hope that in the future, DC fans will not be discouraged to watch the first 2 (or even 3 if they really like what they've seen so far) seasons of The Flash, just because it turned to shit right after.

@carlosleoni5321

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't mean it's good

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

@@randallflagg3700 the negative costume was like that mainly to throw shade towards Ezra Miller

@randallflagg3700

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackbirdRX - That costume looks nothing like the one Ezra Miller is wearing... and why would they "throw shade" at him after they asked Ezra to take part in *Crisis on Infinite Earths* ?

When you’ve been waiting all year for this.

watching this as someone who doesn't watch The Flash, just feels like an acid trip

@jessy1652

Жыл бұрын

I watched the entire show just about still feels like an acid trip 😎

IMO, the reason season 1 is so good, is the fact that the flash only just having powers justifies situations where he doesn’t necessarily do the smart thing, and the jokes are still pretty good to me, but after that first season I can’t justify anything else the flash does, since he should have no excuses to not instantly win against non speedsters.

This show is still on the air? I clocked out at season 4 and I was being patient. Kind of sad this show still brings in viewers. At what point do people stop? I’m gonna guess this show will end at season 10

@scourgeofyoutube9448

Жыл бұрын

It actually stops next season

@Devon.with.an.i

Жыл бұрын

@@scourgeofyoutube9448 close enough 😂😅

@lordat

Жыл бұрын

I stopped after season 5 and 6 is a dumpster fire, the cgi is bad and there’s too many characters to the point flash doesn’t feel like the main guy anymore

@thewritersquill

Жыл бұрын

Man, I’ll say you were patient! I stopped halfway through season 2 lol

@scourgeofyoutube9448

Жыл бұрын

@@Devon.with.an.i very true

9:05 I always found his plan stupid Because if he kills kid barry he never becomes the flash meaning eobard never becomes the reverse flash meaning he never travels back in time to kill barry And him deciding to kill Barry's mom so he wouldn't becomes the flash doesn't make any sense because him losing his mom doesn't mean he never gets his powers and just gives him a motivation to become a hero In the comics his motivation makes a lot more sense See he knows he can't kill barry so he fucks with his life like pushing him down some stairs erasing his friends so he's more lonely a lot of other shit and of course killing his mom

@SWTobito0702

Жыл бұрын

Not in the timeline they were in. In Reverse Flashpoint Barry never became the Flash but Thawne did, in an attempt to steal Barry's life for himself. As a cherry on top and because he didn't need Barry anymore to exist in this altered timeline, he did what he always wanted to do and killed Barry.

@user-yw1nl6sk7y

Жыл бұрын

@Tub if he is immune to timeline change's can't he , you know? Kill the flash ?

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

@@user-yw1nl6sk7y Hey uh… WHAT DO YOU THINK HES TRIED TO DO FOR THE WHOLE FKN SERIES?!

@user-yw1nl6sk7y

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackbirdRX dude, I wrote the comment 5 months ago, I don't remember what I was thinking, anyway I think I said that because if he's immune to time line changes , then why doesn't he constantly try to go back in time and kill flash as kid , of you know what I mean

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

@@user-yw1nl6sk7y he’s tried that. MULTIPLE TIMES

Their origin isn’t too far off from comics Eobard Thawne though. He’s petty, and he wants to be the Flash but he’s destined to be the opposite. That realization breaks him and he then devotes his life to ruining Barry’s life. They definitely could’ve come up with a better scenario in the show though than Barry “stealing the spotlight”. I agree that it was a pretty lame origin story but it does highlight how much of a sociopath he is at least.

@christiantrent1030

Жыл бұрын

He legit killed his own wife, eobard was an obsessive psychopathic narcissist and that whole ordeal set him off to try to kill an eleven year old Barry Allen. I actually think it’s a good origin story

The time travel logic in armageddon feels like someone in the writing team watched the mcu Used it's time travel logic but forgot that's not how time travel works on the flash

In the comics Reverse Flash is immune to time manipulation. He's a living paradox that can't be effected. Him coming back makes sense because that's how ir was in the comics until Barry changed it by erasing his memory of him. His story about being obsessed with flash is actually sad

@carlosleoni5321

Жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter if it's on the comics, they should have given a better explanation to his return on the show itself after being erased from existence (like in season 2 where he was the one before the season 1 events)

@whynot9421

Жыл бұрын

I get that, but I don’t understand why he has Wells’s face in season 5 and earth-x.

@Prime_Nexus1

Жыл бұрын

@@whynot9421 easier production. Less person to pay

@accidentalmadness1708

3 ай бұрын

@@carlosleoni5321it kind of does

@jake12466

3 ай бұрын

@Prime_Nexus1 *affected

People who literally said that this season was a return to form have no idea what they were talking about. Seasons 1-3(Yes, 3 included, despite that season’s issues)actually made you care about what was happening with the cast as well as the overall events and the stakes that were in place. Seasons afterwards with I guess the exception of season 4(and the first half of season 6 with the Bloodwork arc), I don’t give a shit anymore. I’ve watched season 7 and 8 of this series with the mindset of “I do not care anymore. This show means almost nothing to me like it used to”. And I still feel like that. Because this show’s writing, storytelling, character drama, and just overall atmosphere doesn’t feel the same anymore. I don’t get excited for this show. I just turn it on to see how this shit will eventually end. I hope season 9 is this show’s last.

@Xehanort10

Жыл бұрын

Those types of fanboys and fangirls do that every time a show that's going or has gone bad has one episode or season they like. Go OMG "insert show name here" IS BACK."

37:33 Love the Cosmonaut Reference.

@comixproviderftw_02

Жыл бұрын

Where’s that from?

@p3ngu1nknight81

Жыл бұрын

@@comixproviderftw_02 I can’t remember which video, but it’s from one of Cosmonaut Variety Hour’s Picture Show videos.

"Somehow... thawne returned"

God damnit I love these. “Trash Flash Hour” is like Christmas came early.

I always thought it was clear that the RF that went off to fight the Legends was a displaced remnant pulled from Flashpoint and not the one from the main timeline. Haven’t seen Flash s8 or Legends s7, so idk how they try to explain it, I just always thought it was obvious.

@Calme_Ja3

Жыл бұрын

when Flashpoint RF went back to kill barrys mom the RF that was aready there disapeared leaving only one reverse flash

I was actually wheezing after reading this video's title when it popped up in my recommended.

the whole "joe angry eboard dying" my guy, joe was the only one to think that barrys dad was innocent, he literally wanted thawne dead as much as barry

@Meerkitty

Жыл бұрын

Plus, in season two when he sees Harry, he instantly shoots at him

@burritoman6064

Жыл бұрын

@@Meerkitty also they already explained thawnes backstory, he wanted to be flash so he wanted flash to not exist, so

@marocat4749

Жыл бұрын

Yeah that why he shot at harry on sight.

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

He may want Thawne dead but he still knows it’s morally in the wrong to just let a man die

@burritoman6064

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackbirdRX the same man he wanted imprisoned for life, or the same man he shot(shot Harry wells for thinking he was thawne)

The acknowledgment of that having to go at Mach 20 will destroy the whole world also ignores the Speed Force Aura that all Speed Force users have that protects them and the environment around them when they are running at high speeds.

@hollowcloplover9539

Жыл бұрын

Was that introduced in the show aswell or is it just a comic thing though? I’ve never read the comics but watched the show multiple times, and i just can’t compare these two because the show is obviously a ADAPTION of the comics which means it is not a 1 to 1 copy of everything in the comics

@khalidahmed8402

Жыл бұрын

@@hollowcloplover9539 it’s never introduced in the show but considering the fact that Barry’s speeds have never once had adverse affects towards himself and his environment it must exist when you take into account that the Speed Force exists in the show which is the source of his powers and in the comics it is said that the speed force aura is a thing so in just going to blame it on negligent writing.

@hollowcloplover9539

Жыл бұрын

@@khalidahmed8402 I totally agree with u if everything u told correct, yeah it’s just silly writing

@jaypaul15

Жыл бұрын

@@khalidahmed8402 Barry has caused windows to shatter when he ran previously in the shows, assuming the aura doesn't exist, many people muse have gotten hurt.

Savitar doesn’t even make sense because for savitar to exist they had to commit like 8 character suicides. The reason savitar exists it because apparently he was a remnant a “disposable hero” he says and team flash rejecting him because he wasn’t the ‘real Barry’ while in an earlier season in a climax of a fight a remnant sacrifice’s itself and they clearly cared about it. So the creation of savitar is bull crap

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

No, the reason savitar exists is the magic of horrible convoluted writing

@l1mel1ght69

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackbirdRX I was partly talking about the writing of the story and that’s more or less what I was saying

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

@@l1mel1ght69 i know. Same issue

This dude has really opened eyes and made me realize things that I thought about but ignored. Well it still had some good things about it. Actually what I call a great season is that it's worth re watching such as S1 S2 and and a bit of S3

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised to see the series end with Barry waking up from a 10 season nightmare coma lol

At this point The Flash TV-Show overused Eobard Thawne as a major villain as much as Lucifer from Supernatural. And that is terrible!

Can i just say that if Cecile's dialogue pattern changed from: "I'm sensing a whole lot of grief from you." to something like: *eyes narrow as she walks closer* "... you're grieving." Then I could forgive it far more

So many flashbacks! So glad someone acknowledged it, like every episode had a flashback to previous seasons or even episodes of that same season

The first video KZread recommended from you and I’m happy it was

12:52 Ooh, didn't expect Snapcube Eggman showing up. What a plot twist.

@tadpolegaming4510

Жыл бұрын

That used to be such a great channel

"The grace of a semi-truck barreling through a minefield" 🤣

The people who think that this season is somehow a comeback for the series is completely delusional and should get help.

20:20 I love how you wouldn't even need empathic powers in that scene to tell that he's sad-

It's flashing time

(Love how the writer just forgot about joe immediately pulling the trigger on Harry when he thought it was thawne, yet then in this season had that whole debacle)

The irony of the fact that literally Armageddon and the negative forces could've all be prevented if barry had caught him in season 7. But no barry let him go and said "that's future us' problem"

I'm sure someone has already mentioned it by now but the blue smoke thing is leftover from Season 6's Nash Wells, he gifted the tech to Allegra.

@tigerlau8593

Жыл бұрын

I'm sure someone did as well, but I could only find your comment after refreshing the comments twice. So in my book, you're the person to point ii out. Thanks haha

23:28 oh my god this part fucking killed me, "IT'S ME AUSTIN, IT WAS ME ALL ALONG"

Actually the “no kill rule” is something that’s a thing all the way back in season 1. I don’t remember an exact example I can give you from S1 of the Flash, but in the crossover with Arrow (Brave and the Bold), they make it evident that he has a “no kill rule”

22:26 remember in season 2 when Joe walked into star Labs and immediately tried to shoot Harry because he thought he was thawne.

i think part of the fandom reason for loving thawne so much is love for other versions of the character being able to bleed into the arrowverse version thanks to his time travel origin. how they managed to make his backstory lamer than even the comics is impressive. the comic backstory is, to summarize: thawne is from the distant future where the flash is a world famous hero in history. he worked at the flash museum and was the biggest fanboy the flash ever had. he fanboyed so hard he managed to figure out the flash's real identity through historical documents, and was as such able to figure out how he got his speed and replicate the procedure. the flash also ended up in the future at one point and gave him some hero advice, which slived in his head rent-free. he immediately made a suit resembling the kid flashes of the past and tried to be a hero, and went back in time to show off how good of a hero he's being, only to learn that not only was there already a kid flash in that era, not only did that kid flash get the same advice he once did in front of him, but the flash of that era had an arch-nemesis; himself. his mentality shattered upon this revelation, and he decided if he was destined to be the flash's worst enemy, he would do his best to live up to that title. he knew he couldn't kill the flash without erasing himself, so he set out to make barry's life as much of a hell as he could, starting with the death of barry's mother. as far as how he's immune to death, that too is tied to the comics. thanks to time travel shenanigans, he ended up as a living paradox, basically exempt from the idea of cause and effect. (he also became capable of killing barry without harming himself because of this if i recall, but nothing comes of it). he doesn't die because even if he dies, he can just keep going from a different point in his own personal timeline. if they want to keep thawne around, you'd think they would just introduce this concept into the arrowverse at some point. heck, make it a version of thawne that's sorta kinda the comics thawne, with this living paradox ability, and still a very willing antagonist just because it means he gets to continue making life hell for a barry allen.

20:00 I stopped watching after season 4 but from the 30 seconds I've seen of this chick she seems like an homage to the Team America empath girl, her observations are so obvious lmao

In the Seaosn 5 Finale, when Nora is about to get erased, Thawne says that the Negative Speed Force is immune to timeline changes, so therefore, that’s how he keeps coming back.

@SheevTalks

Жыл бұрын

Then he should have run into the negative speed force when he was being erased in season 8

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

@@SheevTalks actually thats the thing. his connection to the negative speed force has very clearly gotten a lot stronger. to the point where Eobard Thawne is a singularity point

Thank you for bringing up the point of Barry having to run at Mach 20 to time travel that was so confusing and a headache for me to process. I remember in the earlier seasons he had to go to the Mach 7 or below, hell when he time travel by accident he wasn't going as fast as Mach 20

32:05 I think that blue smoke stuff came from Nash Wells in season 6, I remember he used it once or something. I might be wrong but I think that's where it came from. So at least the writers remembered this, I guess.

You’re idea for how they should’ve done Thawne is what the comics did, and it’s VASTLY more interesting that anything this show did with Thawne after season 1

Joe says he wants to save thawne but in season 2 when he saw harry he instantly shot at him twice

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

thats the 10th time someone pulled a Hartley Sawyer. you understand this kind of stupidity is what got him fired: hypocrites using the past against him

BRO THANK U SO MUCH FOR MENTIONING THE OLDER BARRY PERSPECTIVE FROM WHEN HIS MOTHER DIED THATS ALL I EVER WANTED 😭it’s a lot more interesting than the op forces

32:10 The blue stuff is the teleporter balls Nash Wells had that he gave to allegra. (Nash used them a lot in season 6)

I just...if I could create an alternate timeline where I kinda tweak seasons 1-3 but keep the general plots the same, I'd just end the show at the end of season 3. Barry takes his place in the Speed Force, leaving everyone he loves behind and making an actually meaningful choice for once. All these seasons have issues, yk, but those first three seem to honestly be the peak of content, as it just goes downhill from there.

@jordanpatton3622

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I always thought the end of season 3 where Barry goes in to the speed force would be a neat way to wrap up the show because of how emotional it would be, but that’s just me though. 😅

@manhattan2003

Жыл бұрын

@@jordanpatton3622 Agreed. They could've just had a short epilogue where it showed life continuing for the cast without Barry, then shown Barry finally accepting his new place in the Speed Force with the distant hope that he could one day see his loved ones again. That would've allowed future showrunners for the Arrowverse to potentially bring Barry or Team Flash back in small doses, showing that life is different now that Barry is basically babysitting the Speed Force for all time.

The title 🤌

Time surprised you gave such a such detailed summary of the seasons story with barely mention the deathstorm arc

The way I understood Thawne when I was reading the comics for the first time is that he is a paradox. He is everywhere but also nowhere. There is no guarantee that the Thawne you fight today is the Thawne you fought yesterday or will fight tomorrow. He is unaffected by every change. He is not only from the future but also from a different possible timeline of events so any change in the current time in this timeline is not important to him. That’s how he can come back to even tho he’s been killed off, gotten a happy ending or whatever. This is also how he can look like Wells one day and have his actual face the other. I mean this does create another problem for the show tho. Why does he want to go back to his own time if it doesn’t exist anymore? It’s not like his timeline exists as like a different earth or anything. He erased his own timeline. But season 9 fucked this up as well. In season 9 we get this full circle moment of Barry telling young Barry to stay away and not to save his mother even tho we established that the person who did that was the original timeline Barry from the timeline Thawne was from. So now it’s a loop and that timeline never existed? But that can’t be. Why would Thawne know Nora as dawn instead of Nora in season 5? Why did Eobard say that Barry got his powers in the 2020‘s instead of 2014 if it’s all a loop? Like everytime they establish something that makes sense they just fuck it all up the next season creating 10 more paradoxes. This writing is so frustrating

@ThisDude234

5 ай бұрын

In defense (not very strong defense because the writers frustrate me as well) of the time loop thing, it might not actually be a time loop because halfway through season 6, Crisis happens. And in Crisis the timelines change as Kara's Earth, Black Lightning's Earth, Jay's Earth, and the Main Earth all get merged into Earth Prime. So technically Barry could just be the new "Original timeline Barry" in this new world. Even then, it still feels a bit confusing but yeah lol

this mans ending for thawne is perfect

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

i mean this with complete respect and in the nicest way possible but... are you really that naive to think Thawne is gone for good?

Seeing how terribly the writers have failed this show it makes me wanna redo the whole thing with the same actors, but instead of writing 1 season at a time, I wanna write all 10 season so there will be no plot holes. Its my biggest pet pieve about this show.

the storyline you proposed at 25:42 is literally perfect rlly sad thats now it happened.

Villain of the week: "I am going to blow up central city" Cecile: **Empath sense** "This guy does not have good intentions"

Your idea of the series finale is everything I ever wanted but it looks like they’re going to miss that opportunity majorly.

Watching Sheev's seasonal Flash videos is more entertaining than watching the actual show. Takes a shorter time to watch too!

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

yet you dont have your own opinion on the show

@Rocksteady72a

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackbirdRX My opinion on it was that it turned bad, so I simply stopped watching it. Not sure how my original comment led you to that conclusion though; bigger jump than the writers make in the show lol.

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

@@Rocksteady72a many people have this problem where they choose to watch a negative review and treat that as their own opinion

@Rocksteady72a

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackbirdRX So you chose to project other's opinions on someone else. Nice.

@jaypaul15

Жыл бұрын

@@BlackbirdRX average The Flash defendee

Cecile literally going "as an empath... "

I truly think they miswrote how they’re gonna end the show. I agree when you said the finally episode should be when Barry saves himse;f creating the timeline that our Barry is from. Than should’ve been the last villain of the series. I believe they kept trying to build the relationship between him and Barry in ways that could’ve worked, but with terrible explanations for how he still exists. Don’t mind him being there, but when you kill him off so many times…it lessens the impact of the protagonistic triumph.

@BlackbirdRX

Жыл бұрын

Thawne is coming back so this argument falls apart. also the show DID explain how he always comes back. Short version: being connected to the negative speed force makes you what is known as a Singularity Point. someone who literally is immune to changes within the timeline