Two years ago: "I hope the next seasons make it up and get better." Two years later: *LIGHTSABERS*

@BlackbirdRX

2 жыл бұрын

that's a thing in the comics so...

@wander7812

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlackbirdRX Its a adaptation remember? A D A P T A T I O N Just because something is in the comics, they don't need to make it as bad as it is in the comics. If it was not bad in the comics, they just make it NOT bad at all. Bad is bad, "It was in the comic" is the worst argument ever.

@BlackbirdRX

2 жыл бұрын

@@wander7812 Yeah, and ADAPTATION mean ADAPTING elements from the comics. Like speedforce constructs, which is not only awesome but has been a thing since season 2.

@wander7812

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlackbirdRX Yeah so you agree that this is why there is no excuse for this in the CW be so bad.

@BlackbirdRX

2 жыл бұрын

@@wander7812 you realize you're allowed to like bad things, right? everyone loves the Star Wars prequels and those are steamin piles of shit so..

Caitlyn getting powers really should have been a 'less is more' situation' They should have kept her struggle with being afraid that she will become like killer frost, had her work through it with Barry and everyone and once she comes to terms with her powers, she joins the team in the field. Killer frost somehow being a separate person was really un-necessary.

@ccelite3782

3 жыл бұрын

I think they're gonna kill both characters off. Think about it, last time we saw Caitlin "die" , Cisco took that necklace off her and Killer Frost comes back. They're gonna separate them in order to legitimately kill them both

@simplegarak

3 жыл бұрын

It's even worst for comic fans. In the source material, Killer Frost is a "heat vampire" - she freezes everything around her because she's always needing heat and can't help it. There could have been something interesting there with Caitlyn struggling as she becomes an unintentional threat to people around her.

@nikg5393

2 жыл бұрын

I agree completely

@davidaston5773

2 жыл бұрын

Hey Brad how are you? I haven't watched Flash since season 3 but like Arrow the show was great then has been ruined by poor writing? The leads and cast work damn hard so it's unfair to them.

@Coolsomeone234

2 жыл бұрын

Finally someone who agrees with me

Well now we have season 7 where Barry literally gives birth to his mother and Caitlin and Frost no longer share bodies.

@Xehanort10

3 жыл бұрын

Someone on the writing team was clearly working through their incest fantasies during the Forces storyline.

@deadpooldan9862

2 жыл бұрын

He didn’t, he brought back the Speed Force, not his mom, the SF just uses Nora as a body. Idk what happened with Cait and Frost, that was weird

@1.21jiggawatts2

2 жыл бұрын

WAIT, WHAT?!? I stopped watching I think midway through Season 6, but please tell me you are joking

@deadpooldan9862

2 жыл бұрын

@@1.21jiggawatts2 yeah, it happened

@KevinJhonson

2 жыл бұрын

@@1.21jiggawatts2 I wish we were joking...

I feel like Barry does whatever it takes to ensure him & Iris never lose anything. Yet if his actions causes anyone else on team flash to lose something he acts like it's not a big deal.

@Water-tg8pq

3 жыл бұрын

Probably because hes already been through it and doesnt want tbe same thing for his team

@zqninja3334

3 жыл бұрын

"SHE WAS WORKING WITH THE MAN WHO KILLED MY MOTHER! but your ok with this!?" like iris is the fuc*ing mother and shes ok with her working with who and what history?

@Xehanort10

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. CW Barry isn't a hero but a selfish prick creepily obsessed with Iris.

@hispanicyoutubeperson6100

Жыл бұрын

@@zqninja3334 What are you saying? I don’t understand your comment

@ItsSupercat94

Жыл бұрын

But thats one of the main points in season 3?

The things that I don’t like are: 1. Peptalks 2. Things happen just for the plot (Barry not being fast enough) 3. Long dicussions 4. Savitar’s reveal 5. Using the power of love and friendship 6. Arguments almost every 2 episodes 7. West-Allen

@yesiplayonmobile6444

3 жыл бұрын

8. Season 7

@nikg5393

2 жыл бұрын

I have never agreed with something so much

@markspott1741

2 жыл бұрын

Please expain the "west-allen" hatred. Is it because it's hyphenated, or you dislike Iris marrying Barry, or both or neither? Not on your list is: "We'll always be truthful with each other", then by episodes end, a new SECRET that isn't shared AGAIN!!! SJW can't live by their own standards!

@nikg5393

2 жыл бұрын

@@markspott1741 I personally hate it for two reasons 1. Iris is a very annoying character who doesn't serve the plot at all other than love interest for Barry 2. For whatever reason they keep trying to make Iris important to the plot even though she doesn't need to be

@IIIISai

2 жыл бұрын

mhmm

The Flash ended with Season 2. There I said it.

@Xehanort10

3 жыл бұрын

It should have ended with Barry trying to save his mother, failing and accidentally erasing himself from existence.

@xillianbro

3 жыл бұрын

@Xehanort10 well technically that wouldn’t make sense because the reason why og Barry was erased to begin with is because that version of Barry hadn’t lost his mom to begin with

@davidingo2121

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah thing is it should have ended at season 1

@youngeeneden1594

3 жыл бұрын

@@Xehanort10 that isn’t what happened

@anthonygarcia8749

3 жыл бұрын

@@davidingo2121 nah 2

7:20 In the comics Flashpoint Barry realises his mistake and helps restore time to what it was. CW Barry didn't care whose lives he ruined as long as he got his parents back, only decided to end Flashpoint after he started forgetting his obsession Iris and time was still different at the end.

@Xehanort10

3 жыл бұрын

@Chris R A doppelganger who wouldn't care whether everyone in the whole multiverse dropped dead as long as Iris didn't.

@OTDinosaurScrubs

3 жыл бұрын

He reversed Flashpoint because of what happened to Wally iirc

@SWTobito0702

3 жыл бұрын

But he doesn't? In the comics Barry trying to fix Flashpoint caused a reboot of the entire DC Universe. Like 2 or 3 seperate universes got fused into the New 52 because Barry by trying to fix everything just shattered the timeline again just like when he created Flashpoint. It'd be great if you actually knew what you were talking about when criticising something.

@Xehanort10

3 жыл бұрын

@@SWTobito0702 It'd also be great if people stopped treating criticism of a 7 season show where only the first 2 were any good as some horrendous personal attack but oh well.

@doofer6863

2 жыл бұрын

That’s not true lol, I don’t like the flash but the way your looking at this is weird.

I've always found it a shame that the Rogues like Captain Cold, Heat Wave, Trickster, Grodd, Golden Glider and Pied Piper got phased out of the show. And the writers wonder why they have to overly rely on speedster villains now.

@litchtheshinigami8936

3 жыл бұрын

Though for some of them like Captain cold they do go on to another show and stop being villains

@Jajsnsjsn

3 жыл бұрын

When did grodd leave

@racool911

3 жыл бұрын

Now? Most of the speedsters were in the first few seasons

@cornydude8434

3 жыл бұрын

lets face that all those villains were really weak and berry was just retarded

@Jajsnsjsn

3 жыл бұрын

@@cornydude8434 well you spelled Barry wrong.

I never watched Legends of Tomorrow because I feel genuinely disgusted and repulsed when I realize that the show portrays Barry as an asshole for saving his mom after his dad was just brutally murdered right in front of him but Sara is just okay with altering the timeline for sex and the show acts like you're supposed to laugh.

@spacepenguins8939

3 жыл бұрын

The show really messes with the timeline a lot (like kinda letting Amaya save her entire village and alter decades of history) but as the show goes along it takes it self less and less seriously to the point you don’t really notice how much they must mess up along the way

@fiction5559

3 жыл бұрын

Oh no kidding, that show committed character assassination of Sara, and its premise itself is flawed, and it changes its rules like every 2 episodes, and all the characters mess up far worse than Barry. Honestly, the Arrowverse as a whole would suck a tiny bit less if they had never made LoT.

@racool911

3 жыл бұрын

@@fiction5559 Tbh enjoyment wise, it's the best in the arrowverse

@fiction5559

3 жыл бұрын

@@racool911 Agree to disagree. Every time I tried to watch it I cringed at the horror and got a headache. Plus, Sara's character assassination alone is enough to suck out all enjoyment.

@yukikid2195

3 жыл бұрын

@@fiction5559 truthfully I get where your coming from. I take it in view as like it was meant to happen. Like they were supposed to change history.

"The Flash--What The Heck Happened?". Iris. Iris happened.

@lelouchlamperouge3566

3 жыл бұрын

That and the writers just gave up

@kingkong9892

3 жыл бұрын

Oh please man the show had way more problems than just iris. Weak villains, barry not maturing, everyone getting superpowers are all ahead of the iris problem in my book

@ineshadixon1377

3 жыл бұрын

what does Iris has to do with the writing of the show??? She maybe the love interest but you can’t blame one character for the writing of the show. Blame the writers for the writing of the show.

@yesiplayonmobile6444

3 жыл бұрын

@@ineshadixon1377 that and she got pissed when Barry didn’t tell her he was the flash and when she found out she acted like a total ass hole but besides season 3s arc she’s pretty cool

@mr.protagonist5639

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingkong9892 nope I disagree most of the stuff you mentioned was just botched. But iris from episode 1had questionable writing. For instance why make a character known to be barry's future wife his Adoptive sister. They knew exactly where her relationship was going to go but still chose to make it weird when it was entirely avoidable. So if you ask me her character is pretty much the poster child for all the bad writing decisions the writers would make later a red flag if you want to call it that.

The CW Flash series died when Tom Cavanah (idk how to spell his last name) wasn’t a Wells anymore

@Kronosfobi

3 жыл бұрын

You realise that statement adds a very VERY *VERY* long lifespan to the show right? Considering he is a Wells for 7 seasons.

@0_u196

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kronosfobi yes

@Xehanort10

3 жыл бұрын

Every version of Wells after the Earth 2 one was basically to keep Cavanagh in the show. They had no plans for any of them. Especially HR who was just a plot device so they didn't have to follow through with Savitar killing Iris even though they really should have done.

@deadpooldan9862

2 жыл бұрын

@@Xehanort10 why should they have killed Iris?

@Xehanort10

2 жыл бұрын

@@deadpooldan9862 Because she has no personality or character other than "Barry's wife" and "damsel in distress", she's a Mary Sue who's portrayed as perfect and flawless, when most other characters in the show do wrong they're called out and their flaws are acknowledged but Iris is treated like she's always right and has no flaws. She's treated as kind and caring but is really nasty and selfish. Despite the show painting it as love Barry and Iris's relationship is just lust. If it was love they'd fancy each other for more reasons than just looks and sex.

Caitlyn's story is just Bruce banner and the hulk

@Kronosfobi

3 жыл бұрын

Except, Bruce and Hulk storyline is good.

@Xehanort10

3 жыл бұрын

The various versions of Hulk are actually explained though. The Hulk started out as a split personality Bruce developed to cope with the abuse from his dad Brian and gained physical form when he became an adult and was blasted with gamma radiation. But with Killer Frost they can't decide whether getting the powers turned Caitlin evil or whether Frost is another personality caused by her getting them.

@rebeccacummings6697

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kronosfobi until endgame lmao

@AnimeKat8849

Жыл бұрын

The worst part is, that it was actually stated in the show (I'm currently rewatching it, no idk why I'm subjecting myself to that, maybe because the recent seasons traumatised me so much I actually think season 3 is good and 4 is mediocre.. Yes its that bad) during the episode with the bachelorette party (girls night out) Felicity (another demon of the same breed as Iris) says that Kaitline and Frost and like the Hulk... Bruh

"Maybe if he killed your mother in front of you, you'd feel different" The smartest thing Barry says in the whole series Lmao Also your point about Caitlyn's dad should've been the main villain makes a lot of sense considering ice/cold is one of the flashes biggest weaknesses

@cw9468

6 ай бұрын

Cold isn't a flash weakness they for some reason make it a flash weakness I don't know why

@mattnar3865

5 ай бұрын

@@cw9468 Because super speed is so absurdly overpowered they need to create weaknesses to have a story.

I gave up on the Arrowverse. I just couldn’t watch anymore.

@leeleeman4678

3 жыл бұрын

Same bro I stop watching arrow season 8 bcuz none of it makes sense like wtf?????

@jaypaul15

3 жыл бұрын

I still watch The Flash only because I wanna know how much worse the show can get

@Cutepup4youplayz

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@darthbullymaguire2072

3 жыл бұрын

I get it 😔

@omnipotentlightbulb6266

3 жыл бұрын

This could be because I have a pretty high tolerance to shit content. But I really like all the seasons of the flash.

The Flash show can be used as an example of creating something somewhat serious and definitely dark, to turning it into practically a comedy, and then making it a tragedy over the course of about 3 seasons out of 9 (when it finally ended, never should've continued past season 6).

@killman369547

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. It went from gritty action hero show to a comedy to a tragedy and finally a train wreck.

I actually liked "evil Barry" as Savitar.

@speeddemon5339

3 жыл бұрын

Me too, but that “the one thing black flash can’t fight.. cold!” Really got me laughing

@chaserred4155

3 жыл бұрын

@@speeddemon5339 Yeah that was kinda bad. My guy legit got folded by ice of all things

@Lone_Cyberman_Productions

3 жыл бұрын

@@speeddemon5339 i was both cringing and disappointed by that bit

@Biggordon200

3 жыл бұрын

I mean its a good story line but they just butchered it horribly

@youngeeneden1594

3 жыл бұрын

@@chaserred4155 didn’t they say cold and ice was Barry’s weakness since the first season, like the cold gun

I, for one, enjoyed season 3 well enough. It’s obviously far weaker than the first two and flashpoint being one episode was really lame (should have been the first half of the season, thus drastically improving the pacing of the season as a whole and fully exploring the flashpoint timeline) but I still liked it quite a bit. The seasons following only got worse and worse.

@anthonygarcia8749

3 жыл бұрын

That one episode of flashtime was good in season 4 tho. Also agreed about season 3 I've been saying that flashpoint should've been like half if not the whole season and Barry wearing the heavy crown so to speak and being the villain but as a metaphor not actually fighting himself as Savitar which was dumb af. But I do enjoy the first kinda half of season 3 with Barry teaming up with Jay and Jesse Quick and teaching Jesse and Wally and the episode where he has to go into the speedforce to get Wally out. They should've just ended the season there and Barry going into the speedforce as punishment and stuff

@darthbullymaguire2072

3 жыл бұрын

I actually agree!

@quake3607

3 жыл бұрын

I actually kinda prefer season 4 over 3

@racool911

3 жыл бұрын

Eh I would put Season 3 on par with Season 6

@MarneyMooseYT

2 жыл бұрын

Finally! Someone who gets me

Barry has decent onscreen chemistry with everyone EXCEPT iris. Its painful watching them interact as a couple. Season 1 was by far the best, the rest are bad and getting worse with every new season.

@rayyanshaikh5591

3 жыл бұрын

Barry and Felicity Barry and Kara (supergirl) Barry and Caitlin Barry and Patty He has better chemistry with ANY other woman on the show compared to Iris.

@Xehanort10

2 жыл бұрын

@@rayyanshaikh5591 But when you point that out to Iris fans all you get back is "You're just racists who want Barry with a white woman." Even though if there was a black woman with a great personality, chemistry with Barry, actual development of their relationship and things in common people would like them together.

@josiecooper895

Жыл бұрын

@@Xehanort10 well I read some article with Iris’s actress saying she doesn’t like being on the show too much and she doesn’t even watch it because the superiors on the show don’t give her a lot of support (or any other of the black characters for that matter) and that makes a lot of sense, unfortunately the black characters aren’t written very well which is probably what Candice patton(iris) means and why she doesn’t watch the show and thus probably means chemistry will be off, and it’s so sad bc the own showrunner is black too I think or the show creator

@Xehanort10

Жыл бұрын

@@josiecooper895 I've seen those interviews and she comes off as playing the victim to me. Not completely revolving a show called The Flash around Iris West isn't racism yet Candice Patton thinks it is. Iris is criticised and hated because she's a boring character who just exists to give Barry sappy speeches about how she loves and believes in him, get kidnapped and nearly killed. She's a Mary Sue who almost every man loves and every woman wants to befriend for no reason. Her wrongdoings are never acknowledged and she's treated like she has no flaws. Her and Barry are a lustful couple who think they're a loving one. If they loved each other there'd be more to their relationship than looks and sex, they'd make decisions together and agree on things instead of Iris deciding for both of them and threatening divorce if Barry doesn't agree. Unless they're having sex they don't seem to like being around and spending time with each other. Some couples have arguments but almost every conversation Barry and Iris have is one. Those are some reasons people hate her not because she's black.

@josiecooper895

Жыл бұрын

@@Xehanort10 well I wasn’t saying the fans were racist or the fandom I was just saying maybe there’s more to why iris is not cool. What you’re saying is absolutely right. But I’m not sure what Candice is saying is absolutely wrong either I mean we’re not on the show right? Who knows maybe I’m the dummy here and she’s playing victim. But yes her character is totally boring and she is a Mary Sue as well

“the one thing Black Flash can’t beat… COLD.”

@deadpooldan9862

2 жыл бұрын

That makes sense in the context of the show. Cisco made a cold Gun to stop Barry, because speed can be beat by cold

@khrinalekill-thebloodspira2531

2 жыл бұрын

@@deadpooldan9862 black flash is thousands of time faster than a ice beam let alone killer frost reaction time is not nearly enough to tag black flash

@deadpooldan9862

2 жыл бұрын

@@khrinalekill-thebloodspira2531 who cares? Just watch and enjoy the show, don’t overthink it

@khrinalekill-thebloodspira2531

2 жыл бұрын

@@deadpooldan9862 “who cares?” Are you trying to imply that people who like logic and consistency don’t matter? the show is bad and if you enjoy the show that’s fine but what i said is a fact and things like inconsistencies and brain dead logic is what effects the show in a negative way things happening for no reason and annoying characters only to drive a plot is a real thing that effects the quality for a piece of media not everyone wants to settle in for bad shows most people’s enjoyment come from making sense

@russellmurray866

2 жыл бұрын

@@khrinalekill-thebloodspira2531 i agree, sure cold can beat a speedster but only if it touches them, they should be able to dodge it like barry should have been able to dodge ice blasts in season 1, i mean ice blasts are slower than bullets and barry easily dodges those

“He’s just railing on this kid” 🥴

@ShepherdWilliamson

3 жыл бұрын

"breaks his spine"

@namecannotbeblank6858

3 жыл бұрын

He really blew Barry's back out.

Hold on... Savitar loosing his memory when Barry does doesn't really make sense to me? Because if savitar is from the future, and Barry's memory loss is only temporary, that would mean that as a future version of Barry, savitar would already be in a state of having regained his memory since loosing it would have been a distant event for him.

@AnimeKat8849

Жыл бұрын

That is like.... The smallest plot hole dude 😅I mean yeah it is the size of the void that is in Barry's head instead of a brain but still...

@ragelord720

5 ай бұрын

Depends how long the memory loss lasts for I'd imagine. Savitar isnt future Barry, he's a clone of future Barry, therefore Savitar should only have Barry's memories up until the moment he's created. So if Barry's memory loss isnt resolved until after when Savitar is supposed to be made, then that memory loss would stick

Barry and iris deadass should've separated and iris should've had to get barry back because her being cool with nora and thane was not cool.just dismissing his feelings so easily and acting like eobard wasn't someone barry should be mad at was stupid

Should've pulled a "Charmed" and have Wally replace Barry in season 4. I respect that choice more

@harrambou9468

2 жыл бұрын

Keiynan Lonsdale is a tree now

@thesplintersofficialchanne6378

2 жыл бұрын

@@harrambou9468 wym?

@606danco

2 жыл бұрын

The Splinters Official Channel he identify him self as a tree he took that attack helicopter alittle to serieus

@thesplintersofficialchanne6378

2 жыл бұрын

@@606danco ohhhh

Litreally Barry can't last one second without lris it's annoying man

@live_feedv2

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. And the "we are the flash" crap was so cringe

@imred8264

2 жыл бұрын

@@live_feedv2 like guys errrrr it gets old fast like they make Barry feel like a idiot

@live_feedv2

2 жыл бұрын

@@imred8264 I also find it funny that Barry apparently being the best of the best people, he's always pissing off the team with irrational and one-minded decisions only for iris to "be his lightning rod" and screw his head on right

@imred8264

2 жыл бұрын

@@live_feedv2 he too much of a simp

@live_feedv2

2 жыл бұрын

@@imred8264 the writing reaallllyy forced Barry and iris together after season 2. By then it's like they had no idea what the hell they should do with her besides make her basically the whole damn focus for season 3 and make her the hero when Barry is throwing a hissy fit

I like to pretend The Flash was cancelled after season 02

@BlackbirdRX

2 жыл бұрын

then explain why s8 is great

@zenkaiforms

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlackbirdRX *cough* doesn’t mean it changes in between is crap *cough*

@whynot9421

Жыл бұрын

3 and 4 were also pretty good.

When I hear people complain about season three, I understand. However, I still believe it had enough elements of what made flash great and focusing on the mistake that is flashpoint (however long it may have lasted) grounded the story with season two consequences. The reason I think it should have ended there instead of season 2 is that to me, Barry walking into the speedforce wasn't a cliff-hanger. I saw it as the end. Everyone's character arc had been completed (mostly). Season one started and ended with Thawn trying to return home. By splitting open space and time, Thawn opens the way for Zoom and season 2. Season 3 starts in Flashpoint, a timeline Barry made to stop the pain of his fathers death, one of the last consequences from season 2. Season 3 ends with Barry finally at peace, something he thought he found with beating Thawn. He lost what peace he had with Zoom, and created Savitar in an attempt to finally put the death of his parents behind him. While the wedding was in season 4, Barry and Iris were engaged by the time Barry sacrificed his life for the world, so the love story was basically over. Wally got to be the hero he wanted. Cisco had finally filled season 1 well's shoes. (deceptions aside, Thawn/Wells was a great mentor for him.) Harry finished his main arcs in season two, and HR was dead. The only arc that could benefit from continuing was Catlin. There's nothing wrong with starting new story's after finishing old ones, it's just that CW didn't start stories that people wanted to see (other than earth x, that was cool) and thus, the show suffered. leaving the villain-of-the-week format in later seasons didn't help.

@lexark

3 жыл бұрын

i will always love the "savitar is barry" reveal in s3. it took way too long to happen, but the actual scene itself was handled amazingly imo.

This video was GENIUS. Better content than channels with hundreds of thousands of subscribers. Fantastic job dude, I was hooked the whole time.

@SheevTalks

5 жыл бұрын

Yo man thanks! Love your memes

reverse flash was fucking awesome in season 1 jeez I cried at the end when Barry told Barry not to save his mom

In season 4 Barry should have stayed in the speed force for the next 2 seasons at least. That would have given Wally time to shine as a speedster and made Barry's return actually mean something

18:12 Devoe should have been a guy willing to do anything to cure his crippling who became more evil over the course of the season because of how far he was willing to go. Instead he became overpowered through constant body switching and a plan to make everyone dumb so he could reteach them and be hailed a genius. And Marlize should have done what she did out of misguided love for her husband not been abused by him and brainwashed into helping with his plans.

The CW flashes version of Zoom is my favorite villain in any movie or show ever. But recent seasons do suck.

Iris was getting really annoying before her daughter showed up. The producers treating her like God ruined her character. Her being able to use Barry's powers better in a day than he did in years was the most egregious example I could think of off the top of my head.

Seasons ranked: 2 1 3 4 (Flash used to be my favorite TV show but it fell off so I haven't watched anything after it 😕)

@darthbullymaguire2072

3 жыл бұрын

I’m sorry bruh season 7 makes season 4 look like a masterpiece lol 😂

Yeah I started to lose interest in the flash when the devoe season came out it just became repetitive and there weren't enough other speedsters, because im into that speedster life

@CN35157

5 жыл бұрын

@Ryder Barrios my favorite Villan was probably zoom honestly

@National7575

3 жыл бұрын

While I like the speedster villains and think a villain should parallel the hero it was a nice change

@National7575

3 жыл бұрын

@@CN35157 true I prefer reverse flash but he’s been overdone

@Kali-bs7oj

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, you can’t call it repetitive and ask for speedsters. Off the top of my head there was Black Flash, Rival, Reverse Flash, Zoom, Savitar, Trajectory. Those are just the villains. I mean you can be into the speedster life but one of the largest repetitively complaints was every villain is just another speedster

For me there are three things I hate the most about season 5 ( there are a lot more things I hate about the season but these were the ones I hate the most) 1: cicada 2: Nora 3: flashes new suit ( uggghh I hate that suit🤮)

@RenRavage

3 жыл бұрын

Suit from which season?? I hate the one where it showed his whole jawline cuz it made his face look fat 😂

@quake3607

3 жыл бұрын

@@RenRavage the season 5 suit was definitely the worst

@BlackbirdRX

2 жыл бұрын

2/3 i can agree with. Nora isnt one of them

@oneandonlysound3453

11 ай бұрын

Somehow many things wrong with latter seasons especially S7-9 just endlessly remind me they made Season 5. After the criticisms that were quite different between Season 3 and 4. They chose to ignore all of them, and make all entirely new ones. At least S6's first half is actually interesting and builds up to something, and even after there are obvious situations, it just drags on too long with too short of actual confrontation. The show should've ended after that, the suits got cheaper ane cheaper looking as if the awful S5 suit wasn't bad enough.

captan cold should have been caught in his first apearance. JUST TAKE THE GUN BARRY. and for those who say he was slowed. he literaly leaned back into the blast. if he can take crooks guns who not cap cold. look up flash insufferably inconsistent. he literally explains it so well

@cabeebeethememe

3 жыл бұрын

ill link it kzread.info/dash/bejne/lW2MypmYiNnUdqw.html

@Latentheatfussion

3 жыл бұрын

The flash comic that was an inspiration for this show is from the 90s I've de read it awesome but it also has these inconsistencies like weather wizard's first appearance racing mr element across the sea Heck even the animated flashpoint is inconsistent like literally boomerangs caught up with him

Season 3 wasn’t even that bad to be honest. It still felt like the flash and actually after rewatching it two more times is very enjoyable. Some people didn’t like how dark it got but I liked the change in tone, and Savitar (to me anyway) was an incredible and very powerful villain. I think what makes it bad is just the underwhelming finale (like the fact that the god of speed was killed by a bullet by some chick in a leather jacket) but so many moments in the season are just great to watch.

I think what would have been interesting if it wasn't Ronnie but if it was Eddie that was Savitar.

I always felt like Thrawn knew he was in a story, so he knew who had the plot armor and when. When Thrawn had plot armor, he used it. When the heroes had plot armor, Thrawn either avoided a confrontation or he let things play out. When the big final confrontation happened, he gambled and managed a draw in the face of massive ex machina. If you look at Thrawn more like Rick from Rick and Morty, everything makes sense. Although Thrawn never directly broke the fourth wall, I always had the unsettling feeling that he knows I’m watching him.

@fireyrival2830

2 жыл бұрын

That’s actually even more menacing. I will never look at Thawne the same way again.

I liked season 3, and that it toyed with much darker themes and tones than the previous seasons.

Honestly, I lost interest in the show after seasons 5 or 6. I'm just ready for it to end at this point.

I personally liked season 3 and 4. They were both pretty alright. 5 is when it started falling off the rails for me.

I really liked season 3, I loved how dark it was and I loved the caitlin/killer frost storyline. Season 3 was my favorite season. I also really liked how they trolled us with Iris's death.

Dude you deserve way more subs, great editing and pacing. Nice job 👍

First 2 seasons of Arrow were fire, they were actually realllyy well made

@vv1034

3 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@Kali-bs7oj

3 жыл бұрын

well depends. Looking back, they are for sure ok, but not reallly well made

@rjm_17

3 жыл бұрын

Season 5 was great too.

@aravshah208

3 жыл бұрын

@@rjm_17 yeah, much needed after the shitty fourth season

@darthbullymaguire2072

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kali-bs7oj oh oh if you say that again bruh I won’t threaten you but go to the fcking doctor and check you’re brain!

I still believe that Wally West should have been Savitar because when you think about it,it makes sense.

@rayyanshaikh5591

3 жыл бұрын

BRO YES. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY GENIUS.

@featherguardian6023

3 жыл бұрын

@@rayyanshaikh5591 Thanks.

@SymbiSpidey

2 жыл бұрын

Now THAT would have been a great twist

@featherguardian6023

2 жыл бұрын

@@SymbiSpidey Indeed it could have been.

The flash aged like milk

Savitar like five times throughout the season: "I am the future flash" Team flash: "Who could Savitar be?"

@user-yw1nl6sk7y

Жыл бұрын

Tbh they could have thought that it is the hero-vilain situation zoom had(he gave hope as a hero and he took it after he played the villain) also Jay said something like" savitar feels you are a worthy opponent and he challenge's you" or something like that, also normally a future person Wouldn't want his past self to suffer.

I use to think season 1 and 2 was good too but after watching madvocates videos he proofs that barry could take out most of the villains in the blink without them being able to react if he didn't stop to talk so much also people claim there tired of speedsters but those should be the only people who could compete with him

@RenRavage

3 жыл бұрын

I hope Madvocate makes more videos, I just now got into his channel

@player_moves

3 жыл бұрын

@@RenRavage same he's hilarious but super accurate

@nabil5323

3 жыл бұрын

don't stop to talk don't stop to talk don't stop to talk 😂

@player_moves

3 жыл бұрын

@@nabil5323 lol

@Xehanort10

3 жыл бұрын

They should have had non powered villains use devices to shut off his speed if only for a bit to give themselves time to escape or something like that. Instead they use pep talks and motivational speeches to justify villains getting away during Barry's naive rambling or have him be somehow unable to catch people walking away normally who can only have gotten a few steps up the street and should still be clearly visible by the time he goes after them.

honestly season 3 ending, would be a great ending to the show. barry goes into the speedforce and you can pretend he didn’t return

I personally loved season 1 cause it was fun watching Thawne slowly build his plan. Also, Devo would've been better as Brainiac, change my mind

2 Years ago: What happened to the Flash? 2 Years later: Still happening!

The explanation for why time never returns to normal when Barry time travels is because when he runs through time he’s actually breaking the time barrier like how jets break the sound barrier. The problem is that when Barry breaks the time barrier a time boom happens causing changes in the timeline. The changes can be big or little. I’m pretty sure this never gets explained in the show but the animated movie explains it and the entire dc universe was affected by flashpoint.

Also I would take a speedster villain every season over what we got season 4 onwards! Future berry beings savatar was interesting to me and Idk it was just good to me 🤷🏼 and I would take a savatar season again 100 times over before I take a Godspeed season omg 😆

I clicked on this because I am interested in the Flash but also because we have the same name Chancellor.

The first 9 episodes of Season 3 should have been Flashpoint. During this timeline the Rival would be the main enemy. Then the mid-season finale should have ending with Barry fixing the timeline, after that the second half of the season would start, and then we cut out all the filler and do the Savitar Story.

I also used to think season 1 and 2 were good, until I realized that CW nerfs the flash everytime there's a villain, for plot convenience. There are just so many scenes where Barry is just standing there and doing nothing while the villain slow walks away, where barry could just run after him and tie him up in like 1 second. And there's times where Barry can sometimes seize common robbers within seconds and have them tied up before they know what's happening. Then there's that time barry takes a person from a car and relocated them to the cop car while it's going. And then we have barry not doing anything every time a villain is escaping, when barry can literally perceive things happening slower faster than everyone else. Which should mean 90% of the Flash villains should be caught in the very episode they appear in, but it never happens. So in the end, Barry's powers change to fit the plot and that is not Ok.

so, fun thing, in the comics grodd was the founder of black hole because he was dying and needed the speed force to stay alive, that would have been a great season if they did this.

Yeah, except Thrawn letting rebels get away got him the location of the rebel base and he managed to obliterate rebellion and delay it for 4 more years. The fear you see in them in Rogue One, that's all Thrawn's doing, because rebels were ready to fight the Empire full on and got their asses handed to them.

@brennanwiler8500

3 жыл бұрын

My man, did you reply to the wrong video? This is a flash video, not a star wars one??? EDIT: Oh i didn't realize you were relating that to later in the video, I'm an idiot lol

@ascendedapollo5386

2 жыл бұрын

you were talking about thrawn and rebels and i thought about crisis on earth x with thawne and rebels, and i think that was a decharacterization they didnt need to include eobard thawne was always an asshole, a terrible person, but a nazi? idk maybe i just love his character but it felt super out of place to see him working to oppress an entire planet when his ENTIRE MOTIVIATION is his hatred for BARRY. for BARRY, not for some random fucking rebels on earth x, people he doesn't care about

Btw it’s the powers of killer frost that make her cold because I guess her heart freezes it’s just a side effect of her power I’m sorry why do we need a big explanation but I still agree tho. (mostly)

For me The Flash ended with Barry sacrificing himself going to the Speed Force in order to repair his mistakes by creating Flashpoint and Savitar as a consequence. That season 3 ending feels like a definitive finale to the whole show. I'm gonna stuck with the first 3 seasons and pretend the other never happened, so the "WE ARE THE FLASH" and Speed Force Lightsabers bullshit never came across.

Man this last episode has me hanging on by a thread barely watching whole episodes now. CW has to many shows going on and quality is lacking.

@blossomfirefan123

3 жыл бұрын

This show problem began with repetitive speedster villains. Damn it’s a lot of speedsters loll

@Cutepup4youplayz

3 жыл бұрын

True I hadn't watch season 7

Not to mention with the timeline and Thawne… shouldn’t Barry stopping Thawne from killing his mom (Flashpoint) reset the timeline back to what it originally was? Since Barry’s mom dying was a result of Thawne’s time travel??

I see how much you struggle with views and your videos are to well made to get less than 100 views. I understand how you put so much time into a video and it doesn't get that many views.

@SheevTalks

5 жыл бұрын

The struggle 😳

@National7575

3 жыл бұрын

@Top Dog Anime his mic is fine

@lukastace3154

2 жыл бұрын

@@SheevTalks At least it's paying off now... right?

Just because you gave Iris speedster powers, doesn't mean shes going to be liked

@Xehanort10

2 жыл бұрын

The CW seems to believe giving a boring character powers will make them interesting. It won't.

One of the biggest problems with the show is that they fail to limit themselves for example we see flash catch small time villains off guard and easily beat them. Heck sometimes we even see the flash use the power dampening cuffs in super speed. Yet he fails to do so, SO MANY TIMES. Sometimes villains just teleport whenever they catch the flash off guard so they can be used in a different scene. one of the biggest problems with the writing is the flash is given so many over powered abilities and barely uses any of them he could easily use flash time and hand cuff most of the non speedster characters. Though most of the time when flash fights a meta he stops to talk to them and waits for them to use their power it’s like the anime rule where you never attack someone during their transformation. Maybe doing it the first time with a new meta isn’t bad but he does it REPEATEDLY.

What is really sad is that you do an amazing job condensing the story and it still bores the crap out of me. Someone else made the comment that their are more meta humans now on the flash then humans. I honestly watch it once in a while to see the actor who plays Joe from the old law and order show

You are completely reading my mind with this video.

I actually enjoyed season 3 savitar looked cool and the fact he was invisible to the eye was pretty epic, I also enjoyed his arm blades.

The thing about time travel in terms of the Flash is that if you change the past, it’s gonna have effects on the timeline. They might not be big changes like Flashpoint, it could just be small thing that happen, like Cisco’s brother dying or John and Lyla’s son instead of daughter. You can’t make time the same as before, because no matter what you do, you can’t play God and put everything as it was before. It’ll be like it was but with small, unimportant changes overall

I think the thing with Legends of Tomorrow is...all of those wacky changes to the timeline were actually not changes and were always how it happened, so that's why it doesn't mess things up as often.

I say it often, I'll say it again. WALLY should have been Savitar. They built up the frustration of being a new speedster along Barry, failing to prevent his new sister's death, AND his future self was disabled primarily due to SHOCK at who Savitar was.......Oh, and not to mention, Savitar's whamy trick was something something philosopher's stone in the speed force and Wally, emotionally hurt, recklessly throws it in there, causing him to disintigrate shouting, "Help me Barry!!" As the Speed God crawls out of the hole....URGGH. I felt so disappointed.

The Time Travel thing sounds confusing but I heard a great explanation for it. Can't remember if it was in the show or some Flashpoint media. Essentially this is how it goes: When you run faster than the speed of sound, you create a Sonic Boom. A Speedster altering the timeline, Creates a Time Boom. This effect ripples through time, forward and backwards from the point you changed. This ripple effect will cause changes to events near randomly. This is how Superman landed in Metropolis instead of Kansas, even tho he should have landed before Nora died etc

All I remember is fast moving and “you can do it Barry run” and I loved that

I for my part liked every main villain up to season 5, at least the potential I saw when they came up. Season 6&7 I couldn't get myself to watch them because of how I disliked the previous seasons at the end. Reverse-Flash : Well he ist the by far best villain in my oppinion. Not only did his story gets so close connected with the story of the hero, he also comes back from time to time and is at that moment by far the biggest threat. Even the current main villain needs to be but aside for him, so big is he. And the last good point is how his power at the start was set up to be impacted by how powerfull our hero is. Essentialy he is always on a similar powerlevel as the Flash, our hero, and only expirience or help from someone else is the major factor when they clash. Zoom : He is a really good villain to the very end. And what I liked the most at him was how the speedforce gets more into the spotlight, as well how Speedster generaly work. Its great. Combined with the very dark theme he had, it was great. But the by far best point for me was how he became black flash, now working as one of those time wraiths he tryed to escape from the whole season. Savitar : I personaly didn't really mind having a third speedster. Mainly because of the difference between the three. Savitar was set up to be a speedster or force of natur like thing that is so powerfull, it comes only if you are powerfull enough for him to be able to notice you. And every time he shows up he just destroyes every other Speedster, showing us even at the first battle with the flash how he is in super speed, while the flash is in super speed. So while our hero has reached a speed so far above every other speedster we had encountered so far, this god is so fast that he appears in super speed while our hero is in his own super speed. Thats just so good that I still go back to that point from time to time, just to re-live that moment again. But here comes the bad thing that put me down at the end. Him beeing a future version of our hero, while also beeing this legendary thing and god like speedster, just doesn't work. They should had let him be a god of speed, some ancient or something else that had no connection with our hero except that he got strong enough to get the attention of the mentioned god. And instead of him becoming the only real villain for so long, more focus on the cult around his most loyal sevant, Alchemist, and how they wanted to completely summon Savitar. And so every time they prepared a way to permamently summon him to our world, Team Flash stopped it and he only comes for a limited time. And after every encounter, they try something out to speed up Barry. Even if it is a temporary boost. But he never gets a chance to even see the victory, but the enemys get it. They summon him and so the Flash must survive until the rest of the team has set up a reverse ritual and banishes him. At the End Savitar is still somewhere out there but he is stopped for now because Alchemist was taken out. But that doesn't mean thats the last time we saw him, effectively giving him the same Status as the others two Speedster before. Thinker : And here comes a really great enemy. And the reveal so early on but with our hero so powerless to stop him immediately, just because the villain uses the justice system the hero wants to protect against the hero is so great. And because of the great scene with him going throught the base with all the powers he had, I can't really say something agains the idea of him wanting additional powers for his plan. Coming to that point, the plan isn't really a good one. Instead of making everyone stupid to teach them the right way, simply control over everyone to stop all the evil all the people cause would be a much better thing. He believes he does something good, just with evil actions. And because of the justice system the hero supports they are forced into the talking parts. While the Thinker uses different ways to get other villains to fight against Flash so he can collect the powers he wants without him knowing. And only very late they discover that, but he is already so powerfull that he can't simply defeat him immediately anymore. Elastic Man was good in my eyes so we can let him stay. And his power is in fact a good counter to have against the Flash so that is still good. But what I wouldn't let happen is the whole actor switching with that machine/ chair/ whatever. The actor is really great as the Thinker and has the right look for it. Don't take it away from him to give it to other actors who didn't look like the Thinker. And for the finish goal, have all work together to make a plan to disrupt him very slightly in a way he couldn't notice it. Oh and don't say even once his original power is knowledge. Intelligence is a good choice but not knowledge. Because the Thing with the intelligence is, if he didn't has all the informations he can make misstakes. And there the team shots at him. But if he gets knowlegde he can't be defeated. Because he knows already what the heroes are doing and just does the actions he needs to do for his win at the end. It also would fit better with his Name. Thinker as his evil name is just way more thinking and not remembering. Not to mention how similar the words Thinker and thinking are, or not? The last one I saw, Zikader? Really I have no Idea how to write his name and I have no interest in learning it. He was interesting at first because we knew from the very beginning when he would vanish forever. And now we get clearly told that this villain was the last one to encounter our hero before he vanishes. So all in all I was in it. But his power wasn't realy that interesting for me. But I guess it makes sense he would be able to kill our Flash with his counter ability to everyone around him. But sadly I don't see much more bejond what we had. If it is possible to make it better, I don't know how. As a final word I would like to point out I am not a pro writer or anything like that. And I am not native english speaking so its very possible for me to have some errors in all that text above. But I hope I at least got everything clear enough so all the ones who read this comment know what I intent to tell.

I think it's extremely important to note that Killer Frost and Captain Cold are the worst character names ever crafted in the vast annals of fiction

Season 1, 2, 3, 5 Nora and reverseflash storyline and 6a were really good and some episodes of season 7 are good even though the seasons not over yet.

Let’s just agree, season 5 was so dumb. A man who can fly, has strength and can take meta powers away. Shoot him, stun him, tase him, do anything that brings down a normal human besides punching

You: "This is why I hated The Flash seasons 3, 4, and 5." Season 7: "Hold my speedster cocktail."

How do you only have 4.46k? who at youtube did you piss off!?

Yeah I couldn't get past thinking that the flash was an idiot because everytime he would run up to a bad guy and stop to talk to them then sometimes fist fight them at normal speed. Wtf

I can agree I was on the edge of my seat while watching seasons 1and 2 I really didn’t feel the same afterwards

It's funny because now compared to the new seasons, a lot of people actually think season 3 was good (I thought it was always good tho, and I'm not ashamed to say it lmao)

Ok, so I have a theory about the whole Flash timetravel vs Legends timetravel. So, in Legends two things are established, that changes to the timeline take time to cement, and that time "wants to happen" or as I understand it, the timeline gravitates towards certain events, which are much harder to change. My theory is that Flash took too long to correct his actions, thus allowing this new timeline to cement, and as a result, when he went back and changed things back, the timeline that formed wasnt the original, but rather a look-alike of it. Meanwhile, with the legends, I think that as long as a change is small enough, the timeline will course correct so long as no major change has been made, thus negating any sort of butterfly effect. Barry's Flashpoint was far too big of a change to course correct, and rippled out throughout every life that Barry has influenced, meanwhile the Legend's changes are small enough to be course corrected or their changes dont have any major worldshaking impacts on the past, for instance saving that tribe is more or less a footnote in history, sure, some people's lives were impacted, but in the grand scheme of things, its a drop in the bucket

I really thought you have more subs but seeing 195 on original savitar video made me check

I don’t even know how you guys got to season 5 I left at season 3 too much bs

@lelouchlamperouge3566

3 жыл бұрын

I stopped at 5

Speedsters in dc always had the ability to time travel and dimension hop through the speed force if they run fast enough or use the cosmic treadmill this is not a new thing

it wasnt their speed that gave them the ability to time travel, its the connection to the speedforce a place where you can go in and plop out at any time and place because it was supposed to have every waking moment of the universe in there

Remember when we all thought that Seasons 3 & 4 were the worst thing happen to The Flash? Ah, good times.

The time machine in Legends of Tomorrow is a delicate piece of machinery Barry time travels by running so fast he punches through a fictional "time barrier" and runs into the time stream, the damage is like a shockwave as a result. Though this is inconsistent in DC media because DC is really old and has had many writers with many ideas

Who has seen maevocate's the flash videos before this and can't help but keep thinking about his points while the writing is being praised, especially Snart.

Savitar was just trying to save us from having to deal with Iris in season 4 and let us keep HR. He was doing is a favor 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Not gonna lie, for the entirety of my viewing of season 5, I genuinely thought Nora was 16

Yes, I believe that how the timeline couldn’t be the same after flashpoint is dumb but they did the same thing in the comics with Barry fixing the timeline at the end of the flashpoint creating the New 52 continuity. Even the animated movie set up the New 52 inspired DCAMU (DC Animated Movie Universe). So actually Flashpoint changed much less in the Arrowverse. But I can agree that with Legends of Tomorrow this doesn’t make sence, but things like that happen all the time and that excuse also works with the Comics. But overall this comic may sound nit picky but this was a great video and I really enjoyed it.

You had really good points. But to me I like the show I rewatched Season 3,4, and 5 and I still feel the same way about them which was that they were actually entertaining. Sure 1 and 2 were significantly better I just still like the show. Season 3 I agree they took way too long to address the villain and it made irritated when they didn’t show him but I was still like very curious to know who it was and when I did find out I was actually somehow kind of shocked because I thought it would be some new character or something. But overall this season was entertaining even though they were a lot of cringe moments from especially Iris I still didn’t care. Season 4 to me was underrated it wasn’t really executed well but it was still a solid season. I liked how they changed the villain which was unique. The villain Devoe’s plan didn’t really make sense and that there was a very lackluster ending which kind of ruined the season for it reaching the best potential and that part where Barry goes into Flashtime when the real Devoe was dead in his loft to me I wasn’t really mad because if he hid the body that would mean Devoe was missing which would still be bad because Marlyse obviously was the one who filed the police report and then if the police didn’t find the body in Barry’s loft then they would know he hid it and then try to find the body and then Barry would still be going to prison. I know the sequence is confusing but I don’t know how else to word it. Season 5 for what they had to work with it was actually better than I thought it would be because Nora had shown up but overall it was average at best. That’s what I have to say about these 3 seasons you made really good points but this is just my opinion.

I have come from 2049 to tell you guys that The Flash Season 35 is shway af

I don’t even think that Savitar was that evil. He only wanted to kill iris so he could not die. He’s a good guy, trying to save Barry from iris.

I wish we got a full rogues team up

I still think that for a few episodes of Season 4, they could have Wally be The Flash and then with the help of DeVoe mamaged to find a way to get Barry out, not knowing that Devoe has plans. It will help side characters develop. Instead, they did the side character take over in Season 7.

S1-S-3 Amazing fighting scene,Good story, Good villain. S4-7- I BELIEVE IN YOU BARRY, YOU CAN DO IT!!!!!!

@backtrackmad8806

2 жыл бұрын

Literally every season they give Barry pep talks

@BlackbirdRX

2 жыл бұрын

Savitar is the worst villain of the show

@Xehanort10

Жыл бұрын

Worse than that. They've turned friendship, family and love into literal superpowers the heroes can beat villains with.