Fisher Panda PROBLEMS? - SwT 178 - HOW TO DESTROY A GOOD BASE ENGINE

This is how I manage to keep my Fisher Panda running even in remote places. Im sharing my secret tricks, and even revealing the 7 issues responsible for the 4 most common problems with a fisher panda 8000i generator. It’s a significant difference solving problems in a remote place, than being in a marina.
Two times in the past I have been told by service tech they needed to replace expensive parts for between 1500 and 2000 US Dollars. Im showing you this is wrong, and even why not those who supposed to be experts understands whats going on. I have saved thousands of dollars understanding my Fisher Panda. The main problem is in the software!
I have lived with this machine for 6 years now, sharing valuable knowledge and experience with you for free. The software issues with a Fisher Panda 8000i are to blame for most of your problems. The random and totally false error code are not making things easier, as trouble shooting imaginary problems this machine is serving you often gives you wrong ideas.
Watching this video will save you money if you own a Fisher Panda Generator, and even understand more than every single tech person I have had onboard. Stop throwing money over board paying for service and parts you dont need.
80 percent of the Panda problems are easy to solve. As the cliche yet true, still 20 percent stands for 100 percent of the problems. This is even true with a Fisher Panda Generator. And the software problems is the real problem.
I could named this video 7 reasons for not buying a Fisher Panda. But I guess only one of the reasons I share here should be enough to stay away.
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  • @peterwall4739
    @peterwall47392 ай бұрын

    I hate expensive Junk. Don't forget the hours of your time to diagnose these problems.. good show Thomas!👍

  • @timlamarre8680
    @timlamarre86802 ай бұрын

    This was a highly detailed and professionally edited, informative video. Very well done and seriously useful for owners of this generator. Thank you for posting.

  • @andersnilsson6625
    @andersnilsson66252 ай бұрын

    Thank you Thomas for taking us on this journey with your fighting Panda in a humorous and educational way. I'm currently looking for a boat to go out with, and if there's a Panda in the boat, I don't even go and look at it. 🇸🇪😀😄💕😊

  • @EdmundRobinson
    @EdmundRobinson2 ай бұрын

    I have never seen a good review for Fisher Panda. Everyone that has used them say they are unreliable and customer service is very bad. This is a great video demonstrating the problems.

  • @eamonncoady9823
    @eamonncoady98232 ай бұрын

    Thanks Thomas that was a public service broadcast in the best sense of the word.

  • @nooneanybodyknows7912
    @nooneanybodyknows79122 ай бұрын

    I would forward a copy of this video to Fischer Panda along with an invoice for payment. Sadly, from their webpage, I see a large military section. Government contracts keep many bad businesses open for business from those contracts alone. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger. You underestimate your knowledge and skills. Thanks for sharing.

  • @christurbeville7230
    @christurbeville72302 ай бұрын

    Really awesome video! You are saving so many the heartache you have suffered.

  • @bishopkinlyside8477
    @bishopkinlyside84772 ай бұрын

    Hi Thomas, you have more patience than me I would take it out to the depths of the sea and chuck it overboard. Absolutely ridiculous piece of crap. Anyway thanks for the video up the good work cliff from Australia

  • @chrisryba6190
    @chrisryba61902 ай бұрын

    I think you did a great service to other FP owners, like me. And, I hate to ask for any more info... but it would be great if you could include part numbers for the spares you purchased/carry onboard.

  • @dutchglobetrotter4513
    @dutchglobetrotter45132 ай бұрын

    Thank you for this video. I could have used it back in 2019 when I helped a fellow cruiser to repair his misbehaving Panda. Cheers 🍻

  • @srupp9271
    @srupp9271Ай бұрын

    one of your best videos I have watched

  • @SailingwithThomas

    @SailingwithThomas

    Ай бұрын

    Thank you so much🙏🏻 I’m really glad to hear this. Videos like this takes ridiculous amount of hours to produce, and normally doesn’t get high numbers in viewers. Still it’s what I enjoy the most to do as I know it brings value to those who are interested. Thank you so much for being here 🙏🏻

  • @podocrypto6072
    @podocrypto60722 ай бұрын

    The best fix for the FP is to pull it and take it to the scrap yard.

  • @bengtriise6504
    @bengtriise65042 ай бұрын

    Someone send this to Mads @SailLife!

  • @andersnilsson6625

    @andersnilsson6625

    2 ай бұрын

    He already follows this channel ❤

  • @johnnlausten8841
    @johnnlausten88412 ай бұрын

    Hello Thomas I understand your frustration with Panda, personally I would be furious with such a poor product, (if you can call panda a product) because the price does not reflect the quality they deliver. In Denmark, a Fischer Panda Generator 8000i PMS Variable speed costs DK 147,800.00. I find that price on par with robbery in broad daylight.

  • @JC-21470
    @JC-214702 ай бұрын

    Thomas, considering all the time, effort and money you have put into keep that panda running you should probably consider just replacing it with something completely different.

  • @zanebrimson7777
    @zanebrimson77772 ай бұрын

    Thomas, hold on for one more year with that animal. A little birdie told me that Yanmar is coming out with a small DC generator! It’ll charge your lithium batteries beautifully!

  • @danknox9986
    @danknox99862 ай бұрын

    Excellent video.

  • @geniexmay562
    @geniexmay5622 ай бұрын

    Very valuable vid. Thank You. Are there any more reliable generators out there??

  • @mememe5231
    @mememe52312 ай бұрын

    Great explanation! Thank you

  • @sveinroarlie9225
    @sveinroarlie92252 ай бұрын

    Gleder meg til å se denne episoden til kvelden 👍🏼🐼

  • @wlyanderson
    @wlyanderson18 күн бұрын

    Thanks for this informative video. I purchased a used 8K, got it delivered and no compression. Seller refunded all my money, but it cost me $700 to find out the problem. Found a vendor that remanufacures the Kubota z482 engine, sent it in for rebuild. No joy, the crank was disintegrated and blocked cracked from prior owner overheat. Vendor ordered a new engine from Kubota for less than the rebuild price. I’ll keep you apprised as we head to Mexico with it. I ordered 2 spare pumps, 4 impellers. Have you found a replacement fuel pump other than Panda? BTW, if i could fit another make of generator on the boat i would, but the space was designed specifically for the Panda😢

  • @Andre-yu3qs
    @Andre-yu3qs2 ай бұрын

    Fantastique ! Merci pour ce partage.

  • @evanjones1393
    @evanjones13932 ай бұрын

    Hey mate love your work 😊

  • @ThatSandersboy
    @ThatSandersboy2 ай бұрын

    Hi Thomas, I always watch/sub, your channel. I have to jump in here and tell you what I think about a couple things I just saw, 1st thing is that POS glass filter, you need to float check that (throw it over the side and see if it floats). Those are garbage and always leak, sometimes they come apart and make a mess. 2nd is how you mounted the electric pump, it's too high above the engine, try to find a spot lower than the fuel intake on the Kubota. Your electrical issues I won't speak to as they're all different. Good luck, keep the faith 🍀

  • @collinl.179
    @collinl.1792 ай бұрын

    Thomas Thanks!

  • @svthorasailing4868
    @svthorasailing48682 ай бұрын

    And now Thomas you have become a Panda mechanic come distributor with upgrades correct?Super video Sir.

  • @svthorasailing4868
    @svthorasailing48682 ай бұрын

    Fischer Panda tricks,don’t have one yeah?Thanks video Herr Thomas.

  • @steveward287
    @steveward2872 ай бұрын

    the simple trick is dont use a Fisher Panda

  • @svthorasailing4868

    @svthorasailing4868

    2 ай бұрын

    Is a reliable kobota engine,unfortunately components are shit.

  • @nickgoodall578

    @nickgoodall578

    2 ай бұрын

    Maybe Tomas should rename the channel: Panda Fighting with Tomas?😂

  • @svthorasailing4868

    @svthorasailing4868

    2 ай бұрын

    @@nickgoodall578 Kung fu Panda fighting.?

  • @c.a.mcneil7599

    @c.a.mcneil7599

    2 ай бұрын

    @@svthorasailing4868yes slap a variable voltage alternator get rid of all panda stuff. But any air will kill pickup pump.

  • @EngineerK

    @EngineerK

    13 күн бұрын

    FP is an excercise in how to make a genset way more complicated than what it needs to be. We threw ours overboard and never looked back. At least with genset and lithium you can setup a high current / low run time charging scenario... 😊

  • @waltervanderboor
    @waltervanderboor2 ай бұрын

    Sounds like they could hire a real mechanic like you to make a real genset, unless they are actually in the business of producing anchors 😅.

  • @casmms8362
    @casmms83622 ай бұрын

    Thomas the fuel pump for your Panda looks like an oversized fuel pump for what we say in Norway for a Chinese Diesel heater, and should have the fuel numbers on the pump, how many milliliters per stroke. Anyway, Happy sailing from Stavanger

  • @c.a.mcneil7599

    @c.a.mcneil7599

    2 ай бұрын

    Your wrong this is a small engine. But we know you have zero ideas on small engines

  • @johnanthony2871
    @johnanthony28712 ай бұрын

    As mooring weights go, this at the more expensive end of the scale.

  • @casmms8362
    @casmms83622 ай бұрын

    Sorry for adding, the display is the same as a Chinese diesel heater

  • @samuaarnivuo4113
    @samuaarnivuo41132 ай бұрын

    Bernard Moitessier needed to save his soul and sail to Tahiti. You need to save your soul and get rid of that Panda.

  • @clintonstewart4786
    @clintonstewart47862 ай бұрын

    Electric diesel pumps need to be at the fuel source and preferably at same level they do not pull fuel they push it

  • @c.a.mcneil7599

    @c.a.mcneil7599

    2 ай бұрын

    I agree but a minor leak in fuel lines will knock them out with air. No fuel leak but air kills pumps. Has problems and had to replace my fuel lines then no problems.

  • @Damcpaddy
    @Damcpaddy2 ай бұрын

    I don't think I'll be buying one of these, ever. The 7 minutes I watched was good info. I hope it helps those in need but I don't think this cideo will be going viral :p

  • @pontoonrob7948
    @pontoonrob79482 ай бұрын

    Onan, simple solution

  • @tomhermens7698
    @tomhermens76982 ай бұрын

    I wonder what F Panda had to say about this. This video does not give me much confidence and I need one. German make? Seems money not well spent. OMG what a bundle of junk. So sorry for you. Thank you Thomas. Well done. (Ask F Panda to become a Patron 😅)

  • @svsalserenity4375
    @svsalserenity43752 ай бұрын

    I hear the the Pandas are better anchors then generators.

  • @shabbydoris
    @shabbydoris2 ай бұрын

    Thomas, just throw that piece of junk in the scrap-heap where it belongs. As for after-sales service and customer care, it is fairly obvious the manufacturer cannot even spell 'service' much less provide any. A simple 5.5hp Honda site-generator will provide all your generator requirements. . . . thanks for exposing the charlatans who knowingly supply inferior components to customers.

  • @Scalihoo
    @Scalihoo2 ай бұрын

    WD40. if you must use the capsule

  • @bjrnlvjomas8083
    @bjrnlvjomas80832 ай бұрын

    Regner med du kan selge denne videoen til produsent av disse generatorene.😅 Du har jo løst alle problemer. Måtte vært fristende å laget håndgass, så du slapp hele servoen som styrer fuelmengde. 🤔

  • @therealrobbycrash
    @therealrobbycrash2 ай бұрын

    So..... it is fixable? 😂 omg...moral of the story, stay away of panda's 😉🤟🏼

  • @onsdag2k
    @onsdag2k2 ай бұрын

    I will run away screaming if I find a fisher panda on a boat I am looking to buy or work on, what a overcomplicated pice of crap 😮

  • @svthorasailing4868
    @svthorasailing48682 ай бұрын

    Trick two don’t use Panda mechanics yeah?

  • @svthorasailing4868
    @svthorasailing48682 ай бұрын

    Trick three cut out all electric sensors.Yeah?

  • @dutchglobetrotter4513

    @dutchglobetrotter4513

    2 ай бұрын

    Nope that will get you the error code "sensor X not found or defective" I tried that.

  • @dutchangle229
    @dutchangle2292 ай бұрын

    That is atrocious. I won't be getting a Panda diesel generator. I have a 20 year old Generac Wheelhouse 5500 gasoline (air cooled) generator that never gives me trouble. Just give it oil and gas and it returns lots of electrical power, noise, and fumes.

  • @BorisPat0067
    @BorisPat00672 ай бұрын

    Never...never buy a Fisher Panda, this problematic genset in marine market.

  • @johngrant7696
    @johngrant76962 ай бұрын

    The simple trick is do maintenance and the Panda will take care of you.

  • @billjeffery2419
    @billjeffery24192 ай бұрын

    expensive JUNK

  • @MARIOSAILOR1
    @MARIOSAILOR12 ай бұрын

    Total crap😮 Honda 4ever👍💪

  • @Marcel-J
    @Marcel-J2 ай бұрын

    Dump that Panda 🐼 Shit machine, Mads of KZread Sail Life also has a lot of problems. I will never buy one.

  • @bjaf
    @bjaf2 ай бұрын

    All time high - tks