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@Herfortz

3 ай бұрын

Have you seen the STAR TREK: THE VIDEO GAME -- Shatner vs. Gorn Trailer on KZread? ..... It's a must see for TOS fans ..... I know that you guys will love it and probably will want to react to it

@tombo1984

3 ай бұрын

Deforest Kelly was hit really hard after filming the scene involving the euthanizing of his dad in the movie. They wrapped filming of that segment and he went missing for the remainder of the day as it hit him so personally hard.

I'm just gonna say it: that scene of McCoy's pain is nothing short of _gold._

@JMUDoc

8 күн бұрын

It's very theatrical - would have been right at home in the middle of a play. Shatner's theatre background on display.

“What does God need with a starship?” is still my favorite quote from the TOS movies.

@chaeobods

2 ай бұрын

Absolutely. That's a great one.

@jonm3427

2 ай бұрын

Even better that Spock said it too.

@kyrridas1573

Ай бұрын

agreed, but mostly because of just how well its delivered. that could've been a throwaway line but Shatner just had to Shatner it up a notch.

The line "I will die alone", is kind of sad in a meta way, now the other two are gone.

I still think it's crazy that Kirk says he's always known he'll die alone.. And Shatner is the last of the big three left.

@maxshenkwrites

3 ай бұрын

Wow. I never really thought of that.

@coulsonintahiti

3 ай бұрын

dang, that's deep.

@ER-ec4uq

3 ай бұрын

Yep - especially given Shatner wrote and directed the film too! It was his project for better and for worse and I think he called on a lot of his own deep feelings in it (which is what I personally admire in it), including that rather strange prophecy. Hope the guys touch on this in the full reaction. They didn't mention Shatner directing in the credits unless I missed it

@andrewhafey1909

3 ай бұрын

@@ER-ec4uq His book talks about how he wanted to do a lot of things that would've made it better, but between props issues and funding issues, it changed quite a bit.

I like that Sybok isn’t a villain but an Antagonist, likeable and charismatic but more misguided than evil. And Laurence Luckinbill really gives a great performance.

@TriarchVisgroup

3 ай бұрын

He's strangely cut from the cloth of the kinds of figures you see in The Bible. Abraham, Moses. He's on a religious mission. And yes, Laurence is great. He's probably the best part of this movie, neck and neck with spending time with Kirk, Spock, and Bones.

@tperfect7241

2 ай бұрын

Agreed completely

@JMUDoc

8 күн бұрын

Luckinbill's casting and the score, are about the only two good things about this film. And the scene where McCoy and Spock confront their pain.

@kuribayashi84

8 күн бұрын

@@JMUDocYeah, that Scene is actually fantastic. For all this movies‘ problems, for once it manages to pull itself together. For about ten minutes, just about everything is on point. For my money, one of the greatest scenes of all of Trek.

The first 1/4 of this film is probably the best. I especially love the irony of the helmsman and Navigator getting lost! 🤣

The “I need my pain!” scene is really excellent: pretty profound message there

@CrankyGrandma

3 ай бұрын

I love that part! It’s very Kirk.

@rayvenkman2087

3 ай бұрын

I wonder if the writer of Persona 5 Royal’s Third Semester Arc had been inspired by V and This Side of Paradise in some way. Sybok reminds me a lot of that arc’s antagonist in being someone who isn’t actually evil in their goals but his desire to remove suffering and pain as a psychological concept is one to oppose or would that be the other way?

This film really emphasizes the warmth and more contemporary personalities the TOS crew holds

It's not the best Trek movie. But everyone remembers the bad things when there are still some genuinely good and fun moments in the movie that make it worth a rewatch every now and then.

The only film in the series that focuses on the chemistry between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. I’m my opinion, that’s the dynamic that elevates Star Trek from generic space adventure to epic franchise.

From the TOS episode Whom Gods Destroy Kirk: "They were humanitarians and statesmen, and they had a dream. A dream that became a reality and spread throughout the stars, a dream that made Mr. Spock and me brothers." Garth of Izar: "Mr. Spock, do you consider Captain Kirk and yourself brothers?" Spock: "Captain Kirk speaks somewhat figuratively and with undue emotion. However, what he says is logical and I do, in fact, agree with it."

@neilm2794

Ай бұрын

Garth was the second best TOS villain, behind Khan. Steven Ihnat did a fantastic job portraying a maniacal psychopath. Very underrated episode …. and Yvonne Craig along as well.

The actor at the start, the bald desert guy, is the same actor who played Morgan Earp (the one who killed Chekov) in the TOS ep Spectre of the Gun!

Dubbing Nichelle Nichols in the fan dance scene was just unforgivable.

@fredcasdensworld

3 ай бұрын

By all accounts Nichelle's take was horrendous

The admiral is played by Harve Bennett. Also, the yeoman that took Kirk’s coat is William Shatner’s daughter.

@silkwesir1444

3 ай бұрын

Weird how that seems somehow wrong... or maybe I'm the only one who thinks so.

I noticed this time not only did Alex well up, but Josh did too. Gentlemen it was clear you were both glassy eyed. This what this series does to us men, a time honoured testament to the love we have of these 3 characters that no other ST show was able to repeat. TOS is the best.

There's so much about this film that I genuinely love. It wears its heart on its sleeve, revels in emotion and pathos. I also love that it doesn't end with a ship battle or a fist fight. The antagonist realizes he was wrong, changes his heart, and does something about it. What could be more Trek than that? It has a lot of problems. I'm sure folks will mention that its budget was slashed & it's a shadow of what they planned to do. It's tonally awkward and some scenes really don't work. The Scotty/Uhura thing is so out of nowhere. But I actually really like the movie. I've come around to it over the years, for sure.

@greenbrown7776

3 ай бұрын

I think the biggest issue was there was no one to rein in Shatner. He's fantastic, but he needs a strong director reining him in. When he's in charge, you get the cheesy excess. But V definitely has its moments.

@oaf-77

3 ай бұрын

There were minor changes that could have elevated this film, they kind of glossed over the cult leader and a couple scenes of him and his Vulcan fanatics communing with ‘god’ would have been some important character building. Also the Romulan dignitary could have been better written as a inexperienced self important functionary who doesn’t realize this position isn’t the honor she thinks it is. Maybe a couple lines about what happened to the old ambassador, maybe he offed himself in shame and despair.

Star Trek 6 is marvelous, and a proper send-off for the original crew!

For it's fault Kirk demanding proof from God is the most Kirk thing ever.

This movie had more scenes with Kirk, Spock, and Bones together than any other. Say what you want, Bill knew to keep the three together.

Spock having a brother was introduced the same way as hi Father, Mother and fiance got introduced, when he had to tell them so in a way it's not really a retco

No matter what others say, I like this film. 😊👍

@hornorsilk2901

3 ай бұрын

So do I. It's not perfect, but really, the way its budget was affected while being filmed is what caused its worst elements

@garyambrosini1427

3 ай бұрын

It's a shame paramount haven't granted Shatners request to do a directors cut on the film, at least getting the special effects in order would massively improve the film and would go someway towards his original vision for the movie

@JsscRchlDrsy

3 ай бұрын

@@garyambrosini1427 I have been waiting for a directors cut for some time.

@GrandManor

3 ай бұрын

@@garyambrosini1427Shatner asked for money to clean things up and shoot a few additional scenes for the dvd release. They said no.

@OMaMYdG

3 ай бұрын

This movie has a charm and sense of adventure. I love it

Reposted from Patreon: 5. Ever since Final Frontier’s release in 1989, two elements of the film have received universal acclaim from critics and fans. One is the score by composer Jerry Goldsmith, returning to the Star Trek franchise ten years after scoring TMP. Ron Jones had modeled his Klingon theme for TNG after Goldsmith’s from TMP, but in this film Goldsmith was able to bring back the original theme in all its glory. The other acclaimed element of Final Frontier is Laurence Luckinbill’s performance as Sybok. Luckinbill was, in a sense, a member of the Star Trek family even before Final Frontier: he is the son-in-law of Lucille Ball, the comedy legend and Hollywood mogul without whose early support Star Trek would never have existed. He is also the maternal uncle of Lana and Lilly Wachowski, the creators of "The Matrix" franchise. Luckinbill has performed one-man shows in the roles of Theodore Roosevelt, Clarence Darrow, Ernest Hemingway, and Lyndon Baines Johnson. William Shatner happened across a TV version of the Johnson show late one night and squinted at the end credits to see who the actor was; he then offered Luckinbill the role of Sybok. Laurence Luckinbill is still living and is now 89 years old, but, oddly enough, Final Frontier was his final role in a feature film. If this was due to the film’s poor critical reputation, that is a great shame, since viewers generally agree that Luckinbill is one of the best things about it. (See especially the moment when Kirk tells Sybok he is mad, and the flicker of doubt on his face as he says, “Am I?”)

@silkwesir1444

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, in TNG it's not really a theme for the Klingons, but you can hear Goldsmith's Klingon theme kinda being "quoted" or alluded to at times.

The unfortunate thing about the scene with Bones is you can’t truly appreciate it until you’ve reached an age where life begins taking from you more than it gives.

@markwood6056

3 ай бұрын

It's one of the few scenes that actually worked for me. Both on a production and emotional side.

@daikosart

3 ай бұрын

That whole scene is some of the best of Star Trek to me.

@markwood6056

3 ай бұрын

And "age" isn't really a requirement. Nor is it even experiencing those events personally. Seeing others go through it should be enough for anyone who has real empathy. And the age thing of course can hit people at any age be it a child of 6 or a person of 90, as the life struggles each person goes through are different for each.

I'm convinced Kirk's pain would be having to let Edith Keeler die.

@tombo1984

3 ай бұрын

Or maybe losing his son David? What he could have done differently to prevent it from happening.

@escapetheratracenow9883

3 ай бұрын

Kirk had years to mourn over what might have been with Edith. He barely got to know his son. In either case we need our pain. Overcoming it reminds us of the progress we have made and the lessons learned on the journey.

@ER-ec4uq

3 ай бұрын

Not seeing Kirk's pain is the right choice... but if they did choose to reveal it then a circling back to TOS' best and most famous episode would have been the best thing ever. The movie tries really hard to link back to the show, it's literally the "final frontier" - it would have been so great.

@caseyanne967

3 ай бұрын

Or Kirk remembering Rayna and the pain of her loss.

@pigs18

3 ай бұрын

I think you're all forgetting Kirk's only real love, the original Enterprise.

The actor who played the officer on the view screen telling Kirk about the situation is actually real life producer Harve Bennett who produced "The Wrath of Khan" and other Star Trek movies.

Fun fact about this film, Kelley was getting rather fragile at this point and both Nimoy and Shatner were extremely cautious when getting him to run down the mountain during the climax - despite all there worries Deforest Kelley was the fasted one out of all of them.

That opening theme by Jerry Goldsmith is beautiful. One of my favorite tracks from my favorite composer.

I figured you guys would enjoy this one. It's nowhere near as bad as some fans make out.

Star trek V is the most TOS episode feel to the movies, it really feels like just another day aboard the Enterprise. It doesn't have a strong villain and I'd say the last act is where it all falls down. A stronger finish would have saved this film. I don't think it's as bad as many do but it is lacking in a few areas.

@fredcasdensworld

3 ай бұрын

This is why I say tracking down the comic adaption that was based on the shooting script is key, because what was intended and what we got are two totally different things

26:00 yes. Deck 64…. As a 14 yr old geek watching this in the cinema in 1989 and knowing the Enterprise had about 20 decks, this killed me. And the deck numbers increased as they went up. I’ve since lost my virginity. YOU LOVED IT!!!!! Yes trek v needs more love and I love you guys for loving it

@OzBaxter

3 ай бұрын

"I've since lost my virginity." LMFAO!! Underrated comment.

I like the six TOS movies as a fun little miniseries of feature-length episodes. Number 5 is that fun episode that's kind of nuts.

The bar from Star Wars, a random desert prophet from Dune and carrier operations from Top Gun walk into the center of the galaxy.

I'm right there with you on this movie. We get to spend time with these characters, this is a gift. That said, it was a disappointment when it was released in 1989. I read the novelization of the movie a week before and it had lots of little details that filled in the story in a satisfying way. I recommend reading it to anyone who wants a better version of this story. Your reaction to Kirk calling Spock his brother was priceless. You two are brothers too.

During the turboshaft scene, look behind Spock as he's flying down. You will see the shadow of the arm holding him up from behind, traveling along the thick black groove in the wall. Once you see it, you cannot unsee it :P

@jamesedgar4099

3 ай бұрын

When I was young I used to watch practical effects scenes to try to figure out how they were done. This one was very easy on my eight year old brain!

Watching all of Star Trek in release order is a huge plus for us ST reaction fans.

@Swiftbow

Ай бұрын

Yes, I think I've only now realized that Khitomer was first named in TNG as part of Worf's backstory. But I won't say more than that here.

Reposted from Patreon: 8. The Earth space probe which Captain Klaa destroys is not a Voyager, but Pioneer 10, one of the predecessors of the Voyagers, which NASA launched in 1972 to visit Jupiter. The scene in which Kirk returns to the bridge of the Enterprise after leaving Earth features two notable cameos. Shatner’s daughter, Melanie Shatner, plays the yeoman who takes Kirk’s jacket from him; in a joke too subtle for most viewers to catch, she spends the rest of the scene wandering around the bridge with it, since there is nowhere on the bridge to hang it up. “Bob,” the admiral who informs Kirk of the Enterprise’s assignment, is Harve Bennett making a cameo in what would prove to be the last Star Trek film he produced. As one would expect, Nichelle Nichols originally did her own singing in the fan dance scene; she was outraged when another performer redubbed her vocals. Loughery originally proposed this scene as a joke; it went on to become the scene out of all thirteen Star Trek films which fans hate the most. Because Final Frontier was filming simultaneously with TNG Season 2, there was a shortage of Klingon boots for the holographic Klingons at Worf’s Rite of Ascension ceremony in “The Icarus Factor,” forcing some of the actors to wear "Planet of the Apes" boots. (This was the anecdote to which I alluded by including the phrase “[SPOILER REDACTED]” in my comment on that episode; I did not want to give away that Final Frontier features Klingons.) Wil Wheaton snuck onto the movie set from the TNG stages; Shatner was rude to him but later apologized. The problem with the deck numbering in the turboshaft sequence is one of the most widely ridiculed continuity errors in all of Star Trek. Unlike most such errors, it is immediately, glaringly apparent even to a casual viewer, giving an unpleasant impression of sloppiness. The “joke” of Scotty banging his head into the bulkhead is reprehensible.

@pigs18

3 ай бұрын

I can think of scenes I dislike far more than anything in this film.

@silkwesir1444

3 ай бұрын

I have heard the theory that this scene with the Pioneer probe was a mockery of The Motion Picture - notice the screams?

I 100% stand by the assertion that Star Trek V is NOT the worst of the TOS films. That title goes to The Motion Picture. I can at least watch FF and have fun laughing with/at it. It’s at least enjoyable in some of the choices. MP? I fall asleep and when I wake up, nothing happened. Is FF as good as II - IV? No, but I do enjoy watching it. However, I am STOKED to see your reaction to Undiscovered Country. THAT is an under-appreciated gem of a film!

@silkwesir1444

3 ай бұрын

Well, but can't you tell that TMP is just not to your taste, but nevertheless the superior movie?

This movie has a lot of heart warming scenes with the big three and Scotty in particular. That's why I like it quite a lot. On the downside several scenes feel like trying to turn the movie into Star Wars, whereas I like my Star Trek to stay true to itself. There is no need for Star Trek to try and become a Star Wars imitation.

@monkeyzorr3090

3 ай бұрын

Then stay away from Kurtzman Trek and JJ Trek, they're subpar Star Wars rip-offs

@paulpolpiboon9535

2 ай бұрын

@@monkeyzorr3090 : Indeed. It's actually Star Wars fanatics that are trying to annex Star Trek with their beloved Wars. Star Wars is like a religion for them and Kurtsman, Jar Jar Abrams, etc have always hated how Trek always gets more respect than Star Wars, so they see Trek as threat to their ideology, so they've been sabotaging Trek to convert it into Star Wars.

As far as I remember, originally the "pain" scene would have ended with Spock and McCoy genuinely joining up with Sybok. It would've resulted in Kirk standing all alone, betrayed by everybody. Leonard Nimoy and DeForest Kelley strongly protested, resulting in the change to the scene and, presumably, the finale on Sha Ka Ree.

Nimoy: When I directed ‘Star Trek IV’, I got a magnificent performance out of Bill, because I respected him so much. Shatner: And when I directed ‘Star Trek V’, I got a magnificent performance out of me, because I respected me so much.

@Hermetis

3 ай бұрын

/r/unexpectedfuturama

@Vulcanerd

3 ай бұрын

@@Hermetisdamn it, hit the reply button to say exactly this!

You guys are going to love Star Trek 6, Also the greatest line ever "What Does god need with a Starship?" The bigest compliant people have with this movie is the Special effects.

@maxshenkwrites

3 ай бұрын

I think that there's so much more they could have done with the metaphysical-mystical stuff in this one. When I think about it, it's amazing and daring that they went as far as they did. Hollywood doesn't like to question religion or God. I would imagine that one of the biggest frustrations for Shatner and others was that they could not take this theme as deep as they wanted to.

@herbyragan8686

3 ай бұрын

My biggest complaint is the horrible direction and writing.

@alucard624

3 ай бұрын

VFX and the half baked story didnt help. Shatner tried but he was stuck between a rock and hard place in many ways. Directing he did ok in my book. It just sucks ILM wasnt available to handle the VFX and he was forced to use a group that had no business doing a film like this.

@tinkinc85

3 ай бұрын

"Damn you, sir. You will try!" Is actually my favorite Spock line of the films.

@CavemanSynthesizer

3 ай бұрын

I have never cared about special effects that much. The writing is what's terrible. They're trying too hard to give the cast more character development and some of it is okay, but quite a lot of it is corny and bad.

The scene where Uhura contacts Sulu and Chekov down on the surface of Earth had a very strange effect on me when I first saw it. Cell phones were just starting to be more common place and watching her literally reach out and contact Sulu and Chekov no matter where there were on the planet, just blew my mind now that such technology was literally right around the corner. It never occurred to me in all the years of watching Star Trek just how much the communicator was going to change our world once it finally became a reality. For the first time I was able envision just how that little device was going to alter our world.

@silkwesir1444

3 ай бұрын

Interesting. I never had this effect, because to me they were just basically walkie-talkies, only lots more powerful. That was already a common concept. In fact, as a kid, when I first saw examples of mobile phones, at first I thought them as something like a walkie-talkie, and less like a phone.

I've been waiting for this one, and you guys did NOT disappoint! Seeing you guys enjoy the character moments was so fun, this is the one Tos film that feels the closest to the original show. And that scene with Bones's pain was one of the best scenes in all the films! 😊

Another great drop by TA. Thanks. By the way, since 1980, Lawrence Luckinbill is married to Lucie Arnaz, Lucille & Desi's daughter.

I call this movie “Are you there, God? It’s Me, Sybok.”

I don't get the hate towards this one. It's just fun. It's our TOS crew with a fun story. Good fun, good jokes, good action, good acting, good script. Maybe it's not amazing, it doesn't give us something new or outside-the-envelope, but hey, it's fun! :) The campfire scenes are my favourite :)

Always maintained this is the best “Star Trek” film, as it perfectly captures the magic of TOS. Sure the others stand out for different reasons, perhaps are ‘better films’ , but they’re directed and budgeted for a mass audience, so tended towards conflict with evil villains etc..

In addition to just being enjoyable, this one really fits into its place in canon well, as a connector between IV and VI. The characters seem like they are in a planned piece of episodic storytelling leading to VI.

One of shatner's daughters makes a cameo appearance during the bridge scene where they are ordered to go to Nimbus III. She's the yomen who hands Kirk his jacket. Despite this movie's flaws, I do appreciate and like how they tackle the subject of life and death and faith and pain and how they are all connected. They help shape us as individuals and our identity. As Kirk says "the things we carry with us makes us who we are. I don't want my pain taken away! I need my pain!"

This one has a lot of interaction scenes with the 7 characters we all grown to love. In the 1980s there was a growth of tv evangelists and they were under pressure to pay the tv bills and all the fallout back then. This gave Shatner the.ideas for the movie.🎉

Before she was an actress, she was a professional singer and dancer.

It's nice to see you guys appreciate Star Trek V, it's my favorite.

I once walked up (not climbed ) a Mountain while listening to the Jerry Goldsmith score of the Yosemite and Shakare parts of the score. Whatever you think about the movie, this is one of Goldsmiths best scores.

@WEB_78O

3 ай бұрын

Sounds like an amazing experience

@silkwesir1444

3 ай бұрын

Too bad they apparently lost the recordings or something. The official soundtrack of ST5 has some remnants of sound effects and dialog. They did their best of editing them out, but were not entirely succesful. This is very unusual.

I think it was real Spock in Wrath of Khan The Federation and the Klingons had a treaty at Organia (TOS) - but it sort created a cold war.

I heard the negative reactions to this film and skipped seeing it in a theater. Months later, a coworker and I were on a business trip and caught it on our hotel room's cable. We both had the same reaction: "That wasn't bad. It wasn't as good as the other Star Trek movies, but it was far from bad." Our low expectations and seeing it for free probably helped.

@maxshenkwrites

3 ай бұрын

>> I heard the negative reactions to this film and skipped seeing it in a theater. I heard the negative reactions from "real Trek fans" to ENTERPRISE, the JJ films, and DISCOVERY, and avoided watching all of those, and then when I finally watched them, I found myself thinking "What is all the complaining about?" Especially re DISCOVERY, which has just been KILLED by so-called "knowledgable fans." Lesson learned.

A nice and kind reaction guys. Shatner wrote the script and he based it on televangelists. It was the favored nation clause in Shatner and Nimoy's contracts that had been put in place early in the series. Shatner exercised it and this is the result. According to reports neither Kelley nor Nimoy was willing to play having totally fallen under Sybock's control.They werequite happy with the horses though because both of them had been in many westerns before StarTrek.

For 6 degrees of separation (or a lot less), Sybok is played by Laurence Luckinbill, son-in-law of Lucille Ball, who is the reason TOS was given a second chance after the failed pilot. She is credited as the one (among her own talents as actress/comedienne/producer), but for her, the phenom Star Trek became wouldn't exist. She was the "Lu" of Desilu Productions. I always wished Martin Landau could have played Sybok (not that it was ever considered, just my own preference). I would have loved to see him and Nimoy on screen together and he wouldn't have had to play emotionless (his reason for turning down the Spock role).

I love seeing these guys react to old star trek.

OMG, Nimoy and Deforest Kelly are gone, that makes Kirk saying "I'll die alone" hit hard.

Great reaction guys!

@13:50 Bit of cool trivia for you, the yeoman handing Captain Kirk his jacket is actually Shatner's real life daughter in uniform!

The reason Kirk yells "SHOOT HIM!" is because the homemade weapon has no stun setting. Your only options are "shoot" or "don't shoot." Unfortunately, the dialog doesn't really make that clear.

If you dig around, you'll find an excellent fan edit of this thing called "In Thy Image". They pared away all the dross and silliness, and ended with a really good 60-minute episode of the original show. I highly recommend it. :)

@clasicradiolover

3 ай бұрын

On the contrary (or maybe I just am contrary) I'd like to see an edit that gets rid of the part where they go looking for "God" leave the silly things in and Sybok lives.

@Serai3

3 ай бұрын

@@busimagen YT's not the only place to look for things. :)

That was Harve Bennett playing the Admiral that orders Kirk to Nimbus 3

Well, it sure beats Space Irish v Clones.

@evenmoor

3 ай бұрын

That is one of the very few episodes of TNG I actively dislike. Most of the bad ones I mostly feel apathy towards. That one, though... yeah...

"I've always known, I will die alone" Hits different now indeed 🎥 🖖🏻 💓

The campfire scene is one of the best scenes with the Big Three.

Spock has 3 ears. The right, the left and the final front ear.

@WEB_78O

3 ай бұрын

😑

I would have loved an entire movie of just the original series crew camping. Cut back and forth between their comedic adventures. Just an entire two hours of character and world building between people we've seen at that point for 20 years. Will Sulu and Chekhov find their way out of the forest? Will Uhura and Scotty find romance at Yellowstone? Can Kirk find something taller to climb? Will Bones get more drunk or more angry? Will Spock learn how to sing? There's your movie!!

@andreayeatman4671

3 ай бұрын

I would watch that movie!

@VonPatzy

3 ай бұрын

Who do you think was in charge of the fire? Who remembered to pack napkins? Who likes their marshmallow evenly browned and who chars that sh*t? So many hours of quality content could have been had.

@WEB_78O

3 ай бұрын

I want to go on this camping trip

The only thing I ever remember from this movie is the marshmallow dispenser available from Kraft. It didn’t work that well, but it was exciting to get something like that in the mail at the time.

Rex Holman was the first guy that Sybok encountered in the beginning on Nimbus III he also played Morgan Earp in "Spectre of the Gun".

All I can say about this movie is that our heroes willingly participate in a mutiny. It's not mind control, they make that clear in the movie. There are plenty of bad ST movies, but this is the only one that I genuinely find to be offensive. And if that sounds overly dramatic, I'm not alone. Both Kelley and Nimoy originally refused to be in the movie because their characters were supposed to be mutineers as well, and only signed on after Shatner agreed to change that part of script. The other regulars, unfortunately, were not so lucky.

@zqxzqxzqx1

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. It pissed me off. There's no way they would've turned on Kirk like that.

'What does God need with a Starship?' is such a great line from Kirk. I love Star Trek V. For me it's up there with 2 and 3 if I'm going for a TOS movie rewatch.

If no one has already said it, there are 2 interesting cameos when Kirk, McCoy and Spock first go onto the bridge. First, the yeoman who meets Kirk is played by one of Shatner's daughters, Melanie. Also, the Admiral on the views screen is none other than producer Harve Bennett.

Not going to lie, unironically, this is my favorite of the Star Trek films, knowing all the B.S. that happened between the writers strikes that derailed pre-production and the teamsters strike that happened during filming, along with Paramount slicing the budget during production because they crapped the bed with a bunch of films in 1987 and 1988 helps gives this film its charm. I also highly encourage that you seek out the comic book adaption which was based on the shooting script

@Blazingstoke

3 ай бұрын

The novelization is really good too

@fredcasdensworld

3 ай бұрын

@@Blazingstoke I never could track down the novelization of Star Trek V, so I'll take your word for it ^_^

@38:20 "Overall I enjoyed it" -Alex. Ok, THAT made me decide to join your patreon. You didn't get influenced by the peer trend of fools, so that sold me. This film was incredible fun, it was solid Trek; philosophical question of a higher being, philosophical understanding of human pain or regret, a Sci Fi alien entity of great power, political tribulations with Kling Ons, a lot of action, and most of all friendship and ADVENTURE. All the loud elements of Star Trek. Thanks for watching one of the best Trek movies ever. (This film was released 4-6 months after William Shatner went on SNL and did the skit "Trek nerds, get a life!" and the sensitive babies lashed out at him for a harmless joke by trying to hate on this film since it was directed by Shatner. Ever since people have been influenced by that FALSE trend, it's genuinely a fine film). Look forward to seeing you on the Patreon.

I have always loved this one. It’s fun, it’s got pretty much everything we want from Trek and the TOS crew, plus horses. Everyone gets to have their moments and do things they probably enjoyed filming. The scenes with the Big Three are all deep, moving, fun and very memorable. Sybok’s character is complex and Lawrence Luckinbill is an excellent actor. The search for God stuff is almost unimportant in the face of everything else that is good about this film. The pacing, lighting, acting, the setups for many of the shots, it’s all great and Shatner did a good job directing despite huge budget cuts and writers’ strike. As I’ve said before, there is no bad Star Trek.

@fredcasdensworld

3 ай бұрын

So you're saying you liked Star Trek Insurrection?

@jaygould2816

3 ай бұрын

Yes I did. Now, have I watched it again since it came out? No. I consider it the weakest of TNG movies, but like all of them it has its moments.

Shatner wanted to do a story about televangelists, which makes it a fairly heavy theme. The studio was nervous and insisted humor be added (a la Voyage Home) which is why the film has a weird schizo nature. Positives: * Sybok was so charismatic and convincing, I started to believe him when Kirk did. * Sybok is played very well * I even bought Sybok being Spock's brother * Bones' heart breaking memory * A few other scenes and some gags worked. Kirk's "i need my pain" was good * The reveal the Klingon ship was coming was played perfectly. Negatives: * Sybok, a very good character, promptly unalived * The story set up stakes that couldn't be met * Many gags were terrible. Scotty whacking his head wasn't funny because the actor is obviously getting older here * Minor, but almost everybody misses the "marshmallow"/"marshmallow mellon" gag * The Enterprise A being flakey. "Hahaha". That was done in TMP already and the "humor" here is lousy * The three hostages had a lot of character development in the first act then were all but forgotten There's a lot of cringe and disappointment here, but there's more good than bad. And in my head canon, Sybok somehow survived. Of the five Trek movies at this point, I think it's certainly weakest. Of all Trek movies, this isn't even close to the worst.

I remember that comment about Scotty and the pipe-and literally laughed out loud-but it was killing me because I couldn’t say anything!

This might not have been the Best Star Trek movie,in terms of production or story,but personally liked it cause i liked the characters and their interactions with all the original cast all the outdoors scenes and and it kinda felt like a Big Classic Episode in the atmosphere of the Originals.

ok the concert analogy was pretty damn good i love that well done guys!

This is not the first time in the films that we see normal Spock.

No matter what you think of this movie, you gotta admit the Bones and Spock visions when Sybok tries to turn them is a GREAT scene.

When other people watch through Trek, they usually see them all in a row, and ST5 suffers by comparison. I think they way you are doing it allows you to miss the characters a bit and then enjoy being reunited with them (which is closer to what we experienced, watching them as they came out) thereby appreciating the movie more.

What does God need with a starship?

@fredcasdensworld

3 ай бұрын

God needs to go to Taco Bell... and a star ship is the only way to go!

Rex Holman who played J'onn was in the TOS episode Spectre of the Gun playing Morgan Earp.

I enjoyed it in the theaters but as a hardcore Trekker from the beginning all those decades ago, I also thought they were a bit too fast & loose with it. Now, watching it with the fresh eyes of Alex & Josh, this movie moves up few notches in my appreciation.

Here is another Star Trek to Lucille Ball connection: Lawrence Luckinbill, aka Sybok, is married to Lucy and Desi's daughter, Lucie Arnez. Excerpt from his Wikipedia page: He portrayed Spock's half-brother Sybok in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier (1989).[5] Sean Connery was originally contacted to star in the role but was busy with Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.[9] William Shatner discovered Luckinbill by chance by channel-surfing late one night and seeing him perform as Johnson.[10] When Shatner called to offer him the role, Luckinbill accepted immediately.[11]

Ah, Star Trek V, in which Captain Kirk fights God... AND WINS!...😜 Some time after the release of this film, Walter Koenig was at a convention where an audience member made the statement "Shatner should never be allowed to direct again!", to which Walter replied "No...He was a good director...He should never be allowed to WRITE again!" much to the audience's delight...😄

Btw...the admiral that addresses Kirk right after he returns from shore leave in the begining is played by Harve Bennett

It's funny watching in retrospect how much TNG bled over into this film. They reused a lot of the TNG sets as cost saving measures (they didn't even bother to redress the corridor scene, and in the sickbay scene you can see a TNG era LCARS computer display on the wall) and you can definitely see the change in style in the movie compared to ST4 and earlier.

@filthycasual8187

3 ай бұрын

In fairness, the TNG sets are primarily re-dresses of the TOS movie sets anyway.

@wink1eafc774

3 ай бұрын

@@filthycasual8187 Yep, TNG sickbay was built for The motion picture and many scenes in TNG it very clear.

@silkwesir1444

3 ай бұрын

@@filthycasual8187 Yes, but that corridor scene is just jarring. It's kinda like for a few seconds they are on TNG.

BTW the admiral is Harve Bennett

Wow, these videos are becoming increasingly amazing. You guys offer the unique perspective of promising to watch all of Star Trek completely fresh for the first time; you're the only people that make me see it with fresh eyes and capture the excitement I felt. The fact that you're watching it all in production order is also unique. I can't wait for you to have to switch series for each video when the next Star Trek spin-off hits you. There's various changes in galactic politics that I never saw concurrently and which I look forward to you experiencing in order.

I saw this in the theater, ONCE, and I haven't watched it again because I was so disappointed. But this was WAY better than I remember. Thanks for sharing!

ST5 is incredibly flawed, but it also has the best moments for the Kirk Spock McCoy trio I think. The script was weak but Shatner just had everything against him when making this movie too.

it’s like they’re the only ones on the ship Scotty is everywhere

5:42 You got me?! Who's got you?

@oaf-77

3 ай бұрын

Can you read my mind?

3:37 "Harve Bennett, Haven't Seen That Name In A While" Interesting Fact for you, Josh, and Alex: Harve Bennett has a cameo appearance in this movie

More Fun Facts about this Movie. The Yowman who took Kirk's jacket is Bill's real life daughter.