I am VERY against the subscription service heated seats and parking sensors... If they are installed, they should be utilized.

@handlenameistaken

Жыл бұрын

It's a scam by these vehicle companies

@jesselferguson

Жыл бұрын

1000000%

@CosyP

Жыл бұрын

If they are going to put everything on a subscription service basic car should only cost £15000. Why should we be paying to have these things fitted if they are part of a subscription package after purchase.

@davidcolin6519

Жыл бұрын

So far, KIA have resisted the trend. I think that it is highly likely that legislation will be introduced to make it illegal, probably EU first, and then other markets.

@devonbikefilms

Жыл бұрын

Awful rip off, having to subscribe to use something fitted to your vehicle that you've already paid for. And another big inefficient SUV lump. For goodness sake.....

Features on demand - that's a big no from me. Any manufacturer who fits all the bells and whistles as standard but won't activate them until you pay extra is to be avoided. It's a shame because it looks as though they've got most things right here.

@Demobot1

Жыл бұрын

Personally I need to hear more before I say no. But to be honest I probably won't like what they have to say.

@Ubberwun

Жыл бұрын

@@Demobot1the only way it makes sense is if it noticeably reduces the cost of the car. If based on the cost of the car you expect those features and they want to charge extra, then they aren’t going to sell. Who wants to buy an $80k vehicle and then have to subscribe to heated seats. There needs to be a “killer app” feature that people are willing to pay for. The only thing i can think of is autonomous driving.

@Magnus-pm7ic

Жыл бұрын

It's the same as buying a package on regular car..

@iilostxshadowroblox4952

Жыл бұрын

@@Magnus-pm7ic Yes!! And you can add it whenever so lets say you can't afford it when you buy the car and a few months later you get a raise and can afford it. I think its a genius idea! As long as its a one time purchase then sign me up!

@RaphYkun

Жыл бұрын

@@iilostxshadowroblox4952 they're talking subscription. That means monthly probably. I can see how the costs work out. I just don't like the idea of not owning the vehicle. For things like heated seats/steering for a lot of ppl, it makes sense cause you probably aren't going to need it the whole year.

If they plan to have a subscription system for heated seats, automatic high beam change and other similar than it's a total NO on my side. If I can pay a one time fee, after purchasing a certain configuration, to have heated seats enabled for all eternity (until they break) then it's not a problem.

I was quite excited about this car until you mentioned "on-demand services " It is as inviting as ULEZ and road pricing by the mile.

@wise_human

Жыл бұрын

The same here.

@aaronkeeghan6673

Жыл бұрын

yep thats me out now, was ready to drop cash

@1963MN

Жыл бұрын

@@wise_human The idea of ''on-demand services'' in cars pure madness! I like the car but hate the on-demand idea!

@Nomanspie

8 ай бұрын

I'm out too

KIA knocking it out of the park once again. Love it

Paying a sub to something already fitted to your car is not a cool feature, it's a fucking liberty.

"Features on demand" AKA subscriptions AKA Ripping off the customer.

isofixes in third row. FINALLY!!! 4:10 I would like to meet engineer that decided that I need terrain mode on the steering wheel and steering wheel heating control in the infotainment.

If they go with subscription add on's, they don't deserve to thrive. Taking off for the new owners will devalue the car a great deal.

@HD_Kerino

Жыл бұрын

It’s the current road they are all going down, yet BMW owners don’t care lol

Finally!! An EV I lust for.

Looks really promising - love the angular design. Good job, KIA👍

@CumBrianFries

Жыл бұрын

@@HS-sr9ww Your comment is stupid, period.

@HS-sr9ww

Жыл бұрын

@@CumBrianFries Thanks Chinese.

@CumBrianFries

Жыл бұрын

@@HS-sr9ww You're welcome, mongrel.

@kfx3907

Жыл бұрын

@@HS-sr9ww 한국인이 여기서 왜 부끄러운짓을 할까?

@Thinkofwhat

Жыл бұрын

The smart #1 Is A Superbly Accomplished Compact Premium SUV kzread.info/dash/bejne/nY2JyamOnaawgco.html

I was mildly interested until the point about paying for activation of heated seats etc. I stopped watching as that's a solid "no" for me. I hate the idea of wastefully carting around hardware that isn't being used and i think it's just money grabbing. KIA is now off my list of potential purchases.

Nice car But features on demand is stupid. If you buy a car with features you want them to just work

I only want to pay for the airbags when they go off, not all the time.

@AndrewLumsden

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 And will the cost of the subscription be refunded when selling the car?

I just watched the Fully Charged Show’s video, they used this exact car too. It’s interesting to see different points of view from different people and how they describe things differently. I like that you are referring back to the concept. It’s a great before and after. Thank you for doing that!

wow that front grill is insane looking! well done KIA!

Another great car from Hyundai/KIA/Genesis, they are the new benchmark in EVs

@L1LM4N

Жыл бұрын

personal taste asside, in what empirical way are they(any of the models) better then the corresponding models from tesla? not fanboying here, just curious, maybe i don't know something.

@SihE-qj1mo

Жыл бұрын

​@@L1LM4N You do have a point. Tesla's self driving tech and its range efficiency is still at the top of the market. However, while its somewhat controversial, many do not prefer the design language that tesla offers and they lack at providing premium feeling interior. And I believe that tesla is classified as a rather premium brand at least in the States and its true when you look at the brand's average MSRP. Kia and Hyundai are offering appealing EVs as mass brands. Tesla focuses on high-tech FSD and range efficiency and all of their cars have some sporty kicks. Hyundai and Kia try to offer interesting designs, 800v fast charging and comfort with slightly less money. Its all down to personal preference.

@L1LM4N

Жыл бұрын

@@SihE-qj1mo in the real world i think tesla also is the fastest charging, not to mention its supercharger network, that alone is a serious bonus. No muss no fuss, just plug and charge, as oppose to all other brands. Even Nio has issues with the battery swap.(wait times for charging, sometimes you only get a 75 kw/h instead of an 100kw etc.)

Absolutely massive. Great for families. Wouldn't suit me personally but Korea is now a force to be reckoned with. Perhaps they should have christened it the Kia Kardashian EV ????.

@applerider4205

Жыл бұрын

South Korea is the world's 6th most powerful country announced by USnews and an international research institute at the University of Philadelphia.

@thenerdyarab7622

Жыл бұрын

Not massive, leaves very little room behind the 3rd row for luggage.

@cinilaknedalm

Жыл бұрын

Vans and minivans are massive, and not inefficient like SUVs. This just lugs around unnecessary weight and wastes energy. Also, SUVs are unsafe for everyone

@pnwev

Жыл бұрын

@@cinilaknedalm why are they unsafe?

@cinilaknedalm

Жыл бұрын

@@pnwev Glad you ask. Compare the survival rate of people hit by an SUV vs by car. It's incomparable.

Really like u are able to turn the back seats! The idea of a driving living room is awesome. Looking forward to see the Hyundai Ionic 7 - one of them might be my next family car 🤞

@AndrewLumsden

Жыл бұрын

Except, where's the leg room?

@matpat2636

Жыл бұрын

I’m currently driving a 2006 Nissan Elgrand, a car I only bought whilst I await delivery of the Fisker Ocean I have reserved. But I’ve fallen for the space and versatility of the interior of the Elgrand, and would really love an updated EV version. This EV9 looks like the nearest equivalent (until the LWB ID Buzz comes along), but the Elgrand has more interior space than the EV9, with a smaller exterior footprint than either of them.

@savedfaves

Жыл бұрын

With no leg room and no table it’s honestly just a useless gimmick.

@timblenner874

Жыл бұрын

I think it is also illegal to drive with the seats facing backwards in most states in the US. So yes a useless gimmick. Car still looks cool though.

@oktaviu8668

Жыл бұрын

​@@AndrewLumsden are you blind? There's tons of leg room in EV9

I think it lives up to the concept expectations. Bravo Kia. Ok, now bring on EV4!

I love the look! And the rotating middle chairs!

I think the Features on Demand part was lost in translation. The subscription service is limited to software features such as music streaming or data useage for the digital key feature etc. hardwarewise you get what you pay for.

I don't mind on-demand features IF you pay once to keep them. I don't want to have to pay year over year for heated seats or an around-view camera system. It actually makes sense in the focus of mass manufacturing to have everything installed, but only enabling what you want. This means when you purchase a car off the lot that doesn't have heated seats built into the car (what happens today), you don't have a car that is sitting on the lot because of that. Instead, ALL cars have heated seats, and when (if) you want them, pay a single price to enable them. But screw everything about yearly subscriptions. Make it a buy once and get it forever and I'm fine with it.

Thanks for the video. These car companies are getting too greedy with subscription-based features, and even considering not making those features transferable.

I will keep my EV6 which has all the size and tech I need. I am sure it will be a winner with a long waiting list. Kia needs to up its production rate, they are making some very desirable cars, but here in UK, probably 1 year waiting list for EV6, unless you hit lucky.

As someone mentioned earlier the problem I see with "on demand services" is that the car has been fitted with these devices so in fact you have already paid for them so they should be turned on. I can't see KIA or any other manufacturers taking off £500+ because you do not want these features added. I do think that all cars should be fitted with all the safety tech though, blind spot, collision avoidance etc. nice car though it looks very big, think I would aim for a smaller EV when I have to change.

Really good presenter and wonderful filming! I have Sorento now and this is my new dream car! The ev6 was way to small

I look forward to jailbreaking my EV9.

2:20 - I would dispute that assertion. When we were looking for an MPV in 1997, all three of our kids - aged 11, 7 & 4 - desperately wanted the Berlingo

Interesting car, absolutely love your review however what was the price for this trim or the basic trim ?

Do you know if it will tow and if so it's capacity?

Will this exist in 5 seat configuration ?

Interesting to see how companies are beginning to innovate in this space.

Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video looking forward to seeing this ev here and looking forward to seeing it at the NY auto show April 9

I love this car and would be very interested in getting one for my next vehicle but I will not be buying (or leasing) any car with subscription based "features", so I really hope they don't go down that road.

Rotating seats had the Renault Espace back in 1987 and the second row transform in a table

@4literv6

Жыл бұрын

And conversions vans since basically forever as a kid in the 1980s we had multiple of em.

Nice video! How would you compare this with Volvo's EX90?

This appears to be the car I’ve been waiting for! I have a Sorento currently so looking for similar size and practicality, but in an EV! This has been my first Kia and I’d definitely go back for more, especially as at this price point there isn’t another comparable EV!

Big, BIG, SUV. Whoopeee. Not exactly what the planet needs.

Why the charge port flap still open side way?

Hello,If you got money for a plug in . Which you'll pick? Family budget, long range and motorway. I was thinking at the Mercedes Gle 350de (400e ?)....There's any better car then this?

Like it. Great presentation as always, Ginny,

Imagine your remote control charging you to use the volume control or your mobile phone charging you to use the touch screen. This is no different, if I'm paying that price for a kia badge, I want it all included.

@trstnhn

Жыл бұрын

Those are very poor analogies. Come on, you can do much better.

Wasn't a fan of the Kia EV design but this is one I can get behind!!

Question is will Kia also have differently equipped models or all the models the same and are you just renting some features. And is it a yearly or monthly subscription. Either way hate the idea of yearly subscriptions

I wish this prototype was the same color blue as the concept. LOVE that color blue a lot!! I think it’s cool to be able to add on features remotely, but I’m not sure I like that a new owner would have to buy them again. Kia doesn’t hold their value well here in the US. At least certain models. We had a 2015 Soul top of the line we bought at less than a year old and it started literally falling apart 2 years later at just 3 years old. We traded it for a new Jeep Compass before it really started to get bad. We loved the Soul for about the first year we had it then quickly lost that love. It was really disappointing because it was such a cute, fun little hamster wagon!!

I wonder if the safety features work as they disable at random on my Niro ev I got this year and Kia UK is not interested in fixing safety features. Only saying they licence dealers.

Subscription is a sin.

Excellent work Ginny and electrifying team. Keep it up. We'll await the new Santa Fe for comparison

This looks like an electric version of the kia Telluride. Really love how this looks man.

No way would I pay £60 - £80k and then a subscription....👎 However, I would definitely be interested in buying one as it is miles cheaper than BMW's iX series, yet more practical and spacious. A brilliant family vehicle. Let's hope it can actually tow stuff..?

so.... what size is it? bigger then a model y/ toyota highlander?

@stephenwensley9328

Жыл бұрын

Around the size of an oil tanker

did the back row have isofix points? If so. its my next car.

Is that the ivory silver color?

Subscription extras will ultimately push up the cost of producing the cars. When it comes to second, third, fourth hand, if these extras aren’t transferable, how that affect the used price? Also, as a used customer having to re-subscribe as a new customer, will these extras, as a new customer come with any warranty? Suspect manufactures will also have some substantial GDPR issues to work through too.

What is a point of rotating chairs if you do not have space for 2 pair legs between them? Only to put baby chair or to put legs on seat in front?

I love it! I've bought my Ioniq5 a year ago, and I love every single aspect of my car but when the EV9 comes out, my Hyundai will be traded for it!

Nice presentation as you always have,,but its impossible for me to hear the talking with all the music.

@AndrewLumsden

Жыл бұрын

👏👏👍👍 Whoever is responsible for the sound on this channel's videos needs to be shown the door.

Looks like a beast!

Thank You So Much For Your GREAT Information about Kia Ev9 Details 🎉🎉🎉❤ Exllent 🎉🎉🎉

Subscription model makes sense only if its MUCH cheaper than options themselves. A single game costs 50usd, but a subscription that offers ALL of the games is around 10usd. They even sell their consoles below their realistic price just so that they could sell games and subscriptions. Offer us a cheap base model price + reasonable subscription and I'm in! ...we all know though thats not how they are gonna start though, not until they learn their lesson.

Kia have been doing some great things these last few years. Whilst I really like the interior, sadly I’m not a fan of the exterior look (I wish I was, as I could really use a 7-seater EV!). Still, with such a people carrier shortage on the market, this is bound to be a success so long as it’s not priced out of contention.

Terrific I missed how long it will be , please

A remarkable looking car.

I mean it’s cool and everything… but can’t wait to see people trying to drive this on UK roads 😂

@blessonwilson4224

Жыл бұрын

But people can drive the land rover and land cruiser or g wagon

@mikadavies660

Жыл бұрын

People in the UK drive Transit vans easily...men or women. This will be easier. Before you say it... Transit vans can and do cost over £60k....

@itechtalk03

Жыл бұрын

@@mikadavies660 thank you for letting me know prices for vans…

I’m not even a Kia fan but I like this one. I may end up getting one next month

Nice first look. Any towing capacity?

@JohnLee-db9zt

Жыл бұрын

5000 lbs

@fastfreddy19641

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnLee-db9zt 2267kg not bad

Very Nice. I'm employed@Kia. I must say that I'm really impressed how good the EV9 looks.

Features on demand - another nope from me. Manufacturers need to understand that things as a service (Spotify, netflix etc) exist because those things get updated regularly and frequently, which makes a subscription competitive with continuously buying new. Cost of ownership for some people is leasing or PCR from new, so subscription might work for them if the cost is equal, but it'll tank in the used market. This in turn drives down residual value, which drives up leasing cost, which affects new sales....

KIA design are just knocking it out the park, never thought I would looking at KIAs over other brands

Price in USD or CAD?

That price tag for an over sized bonneted MPV, you then have to rent some of the features… but you don’t get a rear screen wiper. I’m surprised they’re not charging extra for using the wheels.

Also sliding rear doors may be more practical and be cool on an SUV, especially in car parks and families getting in and out.

@anydaynow01

Жыл бұрын

When I saw the size of the suicide doors on the concept I really thought the production version would have the convenient auto sliding rear doors like a minivan.

@DHKo-mk7up

Жыл бұрын

Would be cool if it was gull wing door + swivel chair

@FFVoyager

Жыл бұрын

@@DHKo-mk7up nobody ever looked good getting out of a car with gull-wing doors.

If it stops people buying diesel SUVs, that's a moderate win. Looks significantly less practical than an iD Buzz though.

What an excellent and thorough review on a new car! As far as paid subscription, I think we should revolt and protest. Many people have cut off their cable just so their money can be shifted towards Netflix, Amazon, Prime, Hulu, and other subscriptions. Paying for subscriptions on a car is offensive and ridiculous and I will bet you a fountain soda that it will end in about three years-I hope. Thanks!

It’s nice, but what’s the point of conference seats if there’s no leg room? I’d still prefer an ID Buzz.

If this size of car is the future, how soon will we see all the current car park spaces throughout the UK repainted to make sure that each vehicle has sufficient space to avoid damaging the adjacent vehicle when doors are flung open? Once subscription services are put in place, it will be so easy for manufacturers have total control over price rises on those subscriptions. Do some research on Adobe's Photoshop if you want to see how it's done!

Look so nice, waiting for the us version release

i love the exterior design and the interior overall EXCEPT for the rotating seats. In the video you can see how little room there is when the seats are facing each other. You and your friends will be interlocking your knees if the seats are in that configuration. A wasted bit of engineering which i would rather have something like removable 2nd row seats for the option of more cargo space. But overall, I'm excited to purchase one. I've had a deposit with my local dealer for the EV9 for months!

Just one small point for you. Tesla doesn’t offer level 3 driving. They offer level 2. In Europe I think I’m right in saying that only Mercedes currently offer level 3 driving, and only in Germany, and only on divided highways in traffic at less than 40mph. Level 3 just isn’t out there yet so if Kia have cracked and received regulatory approval in Europe then that’s a big deal. And subscriptions are awful. It’s fair enough to be charged extra for the features you want to enable. It goes against the way it’s been done for decades but I can see reasons why (although I’m some cases it will add weight for something you can’t use). But once bought, they should be part of the vehicle and passed on. This “next owner pays again” idea is just a rip off, and also will destroy second hand value (not the manufacturers care about that, but owners should). Great video. Love the car. Looks absolutely huge though for British roads, garages and car park spaces! Those nice wide back doors could cause some damage to cars in adjacent spaces!

Good unbiased review Ginny - only omission was not mentioning the #Mercedes #MQV when it comes to 7 seat EVs and the new one has a 100kwh battery too . Have to say the #EV9 is a bit of a let down versus it’s fantastic concept they should’ve kept the doors and dash for the wow factor . This new idea of charging monthly for features is concerning and it’ll affect the used market if they’re going to try and recharge people for them it’s a concern it’s a big concern to the purchase market but it might work if lease companies move into the used market I think cat ownership will be rare in the future particularly with expensive EVs - what we need is more cheaper chinese cars to shake up the market - the BYD Atto 3 is overpriced to make market share can’t see people choosing it over say a Cupra Born ( my comment ended up on the byd atto ! Doh ! )

@speksih

Жыл бұрын

It´s much closer to the concept than 99% of production vehicles shown versus their Concept, so I´m at least quite pleased with the design. The concepts door design might be not optimal for cost optimization, so I rather have normal doors and ~2-3k$ lower price tag.

@timgurr1876

Жыл бұрын

We don’t need Chinese cars anywhere except in China. Their gov’t is dictatorial and their actions on locking people in their homes to and beyond the point of starvation is horrible. China only cares about world dominance economically and politically. They don’t care about their people. What makes you think they will care about you when they are in the position the USA is right now as world leader? Something to really think about. China will not be coming to the aid of those who suffer natural catastrophes. Time to wake up.

Divide opinion is an optimistic way of looking at it. Will it be cheaper than a range rover?

Features On Demand give owners the option to buy or lease at a lower initial price and then add features later as your purse permits. Also, they help ensure that the option is available on all cars.

It looks great. Not keen on paying for extra components to be switched on.

Does it come in a gas model?

Looks way better than Tesla but for sure not something i'm in the market for.

I really wish that this was made by a US company so I could pay twice as much and watch it fall apart as I drive it out the showroom.

Basically an electric version of Telluride

The best im ready to order spoke to my dealer yesterday although i seem to know more about ev9 than the dealer

I look forward to seeing these things packing out the Waitrose supermarket car park. :)

Hyundai and Kia are on a roll at the moment. I wish they would buy JLR and bring back Rover while they're at it using their platforms. That group could challenge Stelantis and VAG.

My estimate is 337 mile range lends closer to a 135kWh battery pack. The brick of a vehicle can't be more efficient than 2.5mi/kWh. The faster charging speed probably can be explained by having more battery cells in series.

@FFVoyager

Жыл бұрын

Will be impressive if they can sell a vehicle with a 135kWh pack for the mid-£60k's.

@lenuvian

Жыл бұрын

@@FFVoyager If you have to pay monthly for every feature, they could probably give them away and make a profit.

@therookienomore88

Жыл бұрын

@@lenuvian Is that their plan to monthly fee everything? I know their current plan is about $150 USD per year that gives you preheating, locking, and location functions from the app. I can’t bring myself to pay them a fee to have functionality that the car came with. Just my opinion.

Ok ok, i am big fan of the Ev6 gt, loving this big boy here also🙂👊🏽

Love this video. Love this car. Hate the idea of features on demand!!

@brettphilip3636

Жыл бұрын

If they are fitted, surely they can be hacked and turned on... 😏

I understand that heated seats are standard equipment including steering wheel and exterior mirrors I'm Canadian that is why im asking

I own a tesla, I am glad they kept the ease of access buttons. I would love to order this for my wife as the family hauler.

They should have called this the 'range' rover. Very nice, high five - Borat.

I haven’t been keen on ice Kias but I must say I would deeply consider an ev6 or ev9 I like Kias electric cars a lot

I would prefer all safety extras such as blind spot, rear cross traffic, collision avoidance and lane keeping to be as standard, but would be willing to pay for heated seats and heated steering wheel automatic headlights Sat nav because I don’t use them every journey especially if they brought the overall costs down

@Reebok4523

Жыл бұрын

Yeah really? On a 60k + electric suv Kia really needs the extra 20 dollars a month for heated seats? It’s a ridiculous concept and people need to resist so they knock this crap out

@trstnhn

Жыл бұрын

@@Reebok4523 You talk like 60k EV is supposed to be considered expensive or something lol. 60k EV is like a 40k ICE.

Looking at the width of that behemoth and the size of those back doors, getting in and out in a normal parking bay is going to be ‘interesting’.