What do you make of the new Pinarello Dogma F? 🎉

@kanchandratip2972

22 күн бұрын

Punarello🤣

@gcn

22 күн бұрын

@@kanchandratip2972 Admin Spent too much time staring at the bike and not proof reading 😉

@littlevo9

22 күн бұрын

Je suis un fan Specialized ,j’adore mon sl7 sworks 2023 ,depuis que je l’ai plus aucun autre vélo ne me fait envie…

@Mr.NotImportant-qu5rx

22 күн бұрын

Sadly it doesn't help me enjoy cycling more. I'm at that age where a steel frame 🚲 (fat tire, road, gravel, single speed cruiser brake, etc) that works OK is good for me. This 🚲 technology is fun to look at but it doesn't help me anymore.

@BMD8

22 күн бұрын

is it compatible with mechanical groupsets?

I don’t race, care little about aero gains and prefer mostly comfort with performance. It’s not for me and would be seriously too expensive for my budget. But it’s fun to see what the pros are using.

@kovie9162

22 күн бұрын

It would be fun to ride one for a couple of minutes on a closed course at some trade event, just to see what the very high end is like. But otherwise, I have no interest in them.

@morganil93

22 күн бұрын

​@@kovie9162I'd be too scared to drop it like an idiot and owe them a new bike.

@samuel8590

22 күн бұрын

lol...Aero is SO overrated for us mortals. Great bike, but I personally like more a climbing bike with 50mm deep wheels. That set up gets it done for me.

@billskolnik4908

21 күн бұрын

@@kovie9162 It's not about the bike, It's about the engine. Lance Armstrong. You aren't missing anything that you won't rrember a few days later.

@Dimashoey

21 күн бұрын

@@samuel8590this is me. 2021 TCR with 52/63 reserve wheels

I rather like Ollies presentation of the bike. The information is on point and delivered in an enthusiastic but sober manner. He states that the content is sponsored and I respect that. Besides the bike being great, I‘m sure, I did not feel dragged by the hair to fall in love with it. I could do with less of the overly dramatic music…but hey 😅 Well done!

I almost didn't watch this video because I'm not in the market for a Pinarello bike--or any bike, for that matter. But I'm glad I did. I learned a lot about bike aerodynamics and why bike designers make the decisions they do. Revelatory for this non-techie cyclist! Thank you!

What a beautiful bike. I'd never buy one that expensive but it's nice to look at. One of my favorite bikes I've seen this year.

Sick bike, I could only dream of ever owning a Dogma F.

Well, I watched gcn Italy reviewing it and there is no comparison with yours. You are absolutely the best truly teller here!

I appreciate learning about high end bikes. I don’t need one, but innovation benefits everyone. That paint is amazing

Easily the most beautiful frame design ever. Especially the all black one.

Anyone else here Spray Painter by trade? Amazing what finishes add in value. Especially metallics, sheens, and fades of recent. Still a lot in time and mental inventory though... thats just the finish process, before the bike/product is even built! Aesthetics have such intrinsic value more than ever in my opinion! Kudos Pinarello.

Wasn't really into Pinarello until I visited their shop in Shanghai... The bikes do look very nice in person.

8:35 SHEEEEEEEP *squeals in Clarkson's voice*

@gcn

22 күн бұрын

The bike looks right at home here! 👌 🐑

Great report and thanks for the latest update on the F! Currently I ride the Plutonium Dogma F Flash with Shimano C60’s and love it,,,, A team built the bike for my whilst I was in Mestrino just a short hop from Treviso factory and shop there.

I'd buy it just for the looks - immaculate ❤️

Thanks Dr O , and crew .

Beautiful bike, well out of my price range but lovely to look at, brilliant having Ollie back 🤓

Fabulous colour built a Reynolds 531 in 76 in same colour my favourite bike ever.

@stickler6312

16 күн бұрын

Just don't get Matt paint, from experience.

Fantastic summary as always - stunning bike

I rode all Pinas since the Prince. The descending skills of the last F were outstanding. Can’t wait to test the new one up and down Stelvio, sunrise may be Ollie?😉

@oliverbridgewood3929

21 күн бұрын

100%

I'm planning to try a paint effect like that on some pine panels to cover access points at home: stop valves for showers accessed from wall behind the showers, etc. High quality oil-based clear varnishes of different lustre levels sanded at slight angles, re-finished with a bit of dye in the mixes. Just to see if it works and goes with some metallic effect tiles

And it breaks the bank! I stick to my BMC RM for now! Thank you.

Have to wonder if the paint on the seat post will be damaged by raising and lowering.

@storegga

22 күн бұрын

yup, very much... SET and FORGET

@theovannieuwenhuizen5756

21 күн бұрын

Or cleaning out the boltheads to adjust the height.

Man, I was watching some serious news video, then I scrolled down and saw your gorgeous figure Ollie, and I couldnt help but click the video. I dont regret it. Great vid. Keep em coming.

Glad to see them getting their frame weight down a bit.

I rode Pinarello exclusively for more than three decades. Moved over the Bianchi and I'm not changing any time soon.

@gcn

22 күн бұрын

What made you take the jump? 👀

@johnandrews3568

22 күн бұрын

@@gcn i hate black bikes and that's all they had on offer when i was ready to buy, and I always wanted a celeste Bianchi.

@gcn

22 күн бұрын

@@johnandrews3568 How about this new colour? It looks even better in person 🙌

@johnandrews3568

22 күн бұрын

@@gcn It's nice but celeste is best!

Beautiful bike, beautiful color. Looks like it is still cold over there.

Gorgeous video (and bike)!

Love this, keep it up!

Even the background music is strategically chosen (it's spend money,buy me,tv advert music)

@JordyJayHomer

19 күн бұрын

Yes, when did this channel turn into infomercials?

Hoping the Dogma F will available soon for rent out here in Tuscany! Come join in...

Awesome bike.. Great values, especially for freds

Was this filmed in the hills around Abergavenny? Looks amazing! Bikes not bad either :-)

@a1white

21 күн бұрын

Looks very Welsh doesn’t it? Stunning roads

@gingerrussell

21 күн бұрын

Might be filmed around the Bwlch? I came here to ask the same question.

@user-mr4yv4dd1r

21 күн бұрын

@@gingerrussell ARAF/Slow on the roads - certainly Wales but where ?

GO OLLIE GO !!!! - Pinarello bike looks sick - GCN hat looks shyte - next ......... AYE

AND MORE EXPENSIVE 😁

@RadioBirikinaShorts4475

22 күн бұрын

Yes I like expensive

@Tbo1235

22 күн бұрын

More expensive means more better

@Thomas-fy9yc

22 күн бұрын

If you find it expensive it’s most likely not marketed for you. My cycling friends that purchase these bikes are not very price sensitive and will buy what they want, not what they need.

@dasf89

22 күн бұрын

Well, for once it's actually the same as before.

@LCNismo

21 күн бұрын

It’s not for broke people

Looks the same as the last 3?

@Tbo1235

22 күн бұрын

Nah bro looks again

@albertosantangelo6872

21 күн бұрын

Indeed. Put it next to a Tarmac and you will barely notice the difference.

Where is Ollie all black Pinarello ?

@dylan-5287

21 күн бұрын

He doesn't talk about that bike.

Does the seat post still creak?

@billskolnik4908

21 күн бұрын

Not if you grease it, like anything else.

Did you lend it to Francis Cade after your review? He's holding the same bike under your vid on my subscribed 😅

@gcn

22 күн бұрын

It's so good everyone wants a slice 🙌

@a1white

21 күн бұрын

They did review it and called it “Phenomenal” 😮

TOP TIER INTRO BRO 🔥🔥

If anyone watching this wanted a Pinarello look for new old stock 2022 Prince, Paris, Dogma models. I think Pinarello is offering some hefty incentives for dealers to clear those out with big discounts.

Looks great.

Dream bike.

I'd take an Alpe d'Huez or Skylon over this any day of week.

@gcn

22 күн бұрын

Wales never fails 🙌

8.2 kg Canyon Ultegra DI2 with Dura-Ace SPD-R pedals and 2 bottle holders for, I recon, 1/3rd of the price of this Pinarello. Satisfied and delighted ;-)

@imranwahid11

21 күн бұрын

Like me mate, when I compare my Toyota Corolla with Ferrari. 😂

Nice roads. Where did you film this video please?

@jameslee-pevenhull5087

22 күн бұрын

Wales. ARAF = SLOW.

@Tbo1235

22 күн бұрын

Yorkshire Moors

@nemeanf27

22 күн бұрын

@@Tbo1235 somewhere in Wales, the drone footage on one shot showed the bilingual road markings Araf or Slow in English

@tobyarcher7623

22 күн бұрын

​@@nemeanf27 the shape of the hills in the background looked like the Black Mountains to me.

@oliverbridgewood3929

21 күн бұрын

wales never fails!

Tan walls set it off 😍😍😍

Stunning. Out of my budget but I love seeing the details on these super bikes.

Can't find the COMPETITION link?!

Dream bike

Tom Pidcock ride 50cm frame the trail was 68mm which is too long in old Dogma so he want's to increase rake to get faster handling, but due to Pinarello use the same fork to all frames, the trail number in new Dogma will be less than 53.3 for frame size larger than 56cm which Ollie is riding. The handling should be quite twitchy for him especially he use narrow handle bar. Perheps this is why he seems avoiding give comments in 10:34.

might have to cop.

Lovely job Ollie, where was that filmed please ?

Dream Bike

Ollie, this makes me want y’all to do a video on how a non-pro (non-rich) rider can have a superbike. For those of us shopping for a new bike for say 3k to 5k budget, can you cover options for buying a used superbike in the same range. Which would be the best bargains, how to find them, maybe a contest among the presenters to see who found the best bang for buck.

I honestly feel that Carbon frames have had their time. From what I can gather, only Time build their frames consistently well, because carbon is so hard to work with. I feel - with 32mm tyres - we’re heading back to metal frames, probably aluminium alloys, because they’re cheap and easy to work with. The only downside was comfort - but that’s irrelevant with 32mm tyres at 55psi.

The dogma is strong with this one...

As an owner of an Elves frame that has the colour change effect, I'd formally like to welcome Pinarello owners of this new paint style to the party. Welcome, and kindly check-in the chip on your sholuder at the concierge counter. (Smug smirk) Jokes aside, Im not a fan of the blue but Im sure the other colour options would look beautiful.

I can't wait for all of the comments, thats why I'm here

@gcn

22 күн бұрын

We can't either! Bring on the engagement 👌

@bicikircho

22 күн бұрын

"it's too expensive" "it's a dentists bike" "I can't afford it, my mum won't let me" and more...

@kidShibuya

21 күн бұрын

People are always really mad that any new bike exists... I don't get it.

Maybe it's me but the melted Picassoesque aesthetic of Pinarellos doesn't do it for me... cool bike though. 🤷🏽‍♂

@quentendeclercq4792

22 күн бұрын

If you like straight lines. do you like the 'new' look blade 795 blade rs? It is quite the opposite from this design.

Since you’re swapping out the wheels may I please have the old ones? I would love a set of Princeton wheels!

My "old" dogma F (Pianrello size 54) with exact same spec but with wider Ultra Talon Bars 420mm and Metron 45 SL wheels and 200g Pedals weights 7270g so really minor difference...

Very creative with the naming scheme there 😂 I'm sure Dogma F is way better than Dogma F 😂

@RyonBeachner

22 күн бұрын

Like how the S-Works Tarmac is better than S-Works Tarmac or how Giant TCR SL is better than Giant TCR SL, or how the Cervelo S5 is better than the Cervelo S5, or how the Canyon Aeroad CFR is better than the Canyon Aeroad CFR… They literally just brought their naming convention in line with the rest of the industry as “Dogma” now indicates their top of the range model, and the F or X designates the geometry.

@michaelmechex

22 күн бұрын

@@RyonBeachner at least Tarmac has the 'SL8' generation designation, but the fact that others do it as well doesn't make it any less confusing. I've tried to look up info on an older Canyon before, even finding the model year was hard.

Art ❤

where was this filmed please, looks a great place for a day out

I own a Dogma F plutonium flash, I care less about the engineered side and what kind of aerodynamic as I'm not a pro nor amateur racer, just enjoy the design and the coloring. TBH, even the new Dogma F, I will just go for MyWay instead of the available color.

The seatstay looks straighter on the new model. I prefer the curvier seatstay of the F and F12

I never considered a Pinarello, however after watching the video, I'm going to buy one for myself and another for my wife. Ollie has the best reviews.

I get a few of these in a year or two. 😁😁😁

Same marketing bs every year.

@Millicente

22 күн бұрын

You clicked on this btw

@dominicbritt

22 күн бұрын

He was pretty upfront about it not being a review…

@vongdong10

22 күн бұрын

@@dominicbritt so? He would say the same thing on every new bike regardless if it's a review or showcase

@AlpenDitrix

22 күн бұрын

a man have to eat!

@charlesmiv3842

22 күн бұрын

@@AlpenDitrix nah

Aerodynamics more important than weight on a climb? That could indeed be dogma.

@gcn

22 күн бұрын

Will it give Ineos some wins at the TDF? 🇫🇷

@kovie9162

22 күн бұрын

Not wearing aero gloves negates both. 😅

@jdancouga

22 күн бұрын

Can someone tell me which other brand copied the head tube design?

@troycollett8540

22 күн бұрын

The pro riders are usually riding in a break or peloton so drafting plays a big part

@SaltyChris-u6p

21 күн бұрын

@@jdancougaSpecialized on the SL8

Absolutely beautiful but horrifically expensive, one for the elite level riders.

Ill stick to my 2014 tcr

its basically the same as the old one with different paint jobs.

3:30 If only Martinez was riding the new pinarello this Grio, lol.

Have you checked their website it looks like you can get a rim break version,!!!!! as well. You said there is only disc brake version. Can you please clarify.

Muscle 💪looks turned into more smooth shape in details 🥹🙃❤🎉 New super light Carbon fiber material make it more light as feather 🪶 😎🚴

What are your thoughts on the new dogma vs the sl8?

Do they make a rim brake version as two years ago?

@gcn

22 күн бұрын

Not this time! This is a disc brake only bike 🙌

@cuebj

22 күн бұрын

He said it's discs only

This is so much an advert of a sponsor!

@gcn

22 күн бұрын

Bingo 🙌 We love showing off the best new tech. We understand this is a top of the line bike but it's great to nerd out over 🤓

@muratmustafa4532

22 күн бұрын

@@gcn fair play. Expect the same enthusiasm for non-sponsoring brands as well 😉

@dominicbritt

22 күн бұрын

The statement “This is not a review” was a clue for you… 🤡

@petersouthernboy6327

22 күн бұрын

TBH, having Pinnarello as a Sponsor is a boss move

@muratmustafa4532

22 күн бұрын

@@dominicbritt yeah but the video was exactly a review 😂

Night and day, eh? Bet it doesn't compare badly to my 2009 Scott CR1 Team. Shimano 105 10-spd, stock Mavic Aksium wheels and all 😂

£12,600 for a bike. I can buy a car for that. It’s a nice bike no doubt but there aren’t too many ppl paying that price, no matter how nice it is.

The color is amazing, shame its so damn expensive

It's a stunning bike but even more the beautiful landscape. Where is it?

@gcn

21 күн бұрын

It is Wales!

Princeton wheels are fire

@troycollett8540

22 күн бұрын

And add to the price

"Today don't sell that type of fibers to any brand" -> marketing bollocks

She's a Beaute Clark!

@gcn

22 күн бұрын

Should we do GCN rides to Wally World 🤣

@rickcski8082

22 күн бұрын

@@gcn Did you get a Jelly of the Month subscription with your new Pinarello?😁

Suprised to see Ollie in what look like Specialized Torch shoes?

It’s a great ride if you want people to know you live near Richmond Park.

Is there really any difference between the different 5um "top end" UHM carbon fibres Toray sells to different bike manufacturers. At 5um they are all basically the same as T1000. IMHO they each get a "special" version of 5um so they can advertise having something more exclusive than "mainstream" 5um T1000...

More weight savings, more stiffness, more aero, more money, less people cares…

4:35 I ask myself the same thing 😭

Lighter, stiffer, more aero - until it gets stolen like mine. 😂. Now need to store these in the Bank Vaults with the gold.

They have the X series. What one frame does it all?????

THE INDUSTRYS WORST KEPT SECRET INCREDIBLY STIFF 5 WATTS FASTER AT 40KPH INCREDIBLY COMPLIANT

Does it have an E version?

Pinarello - "No one needs this bike, but you all want it".

Nowadays we have to ask: is it compatible with cable operated derailleurs?

prototype in Italy Pinarello factory mass production Still made in China and Taiwan there is no such thing as an "authentic" frame anymore some would rather pay for an OEM frame then buy from a distributor that you are paying 3x or even 4x times higher and still produces from the same factory

That'll be $7,250 for the frame set alone.

I think Pinarello are taking the piss. They're not alone either.