The most underutilized piece of equipment, The Deck Gun!!

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

How do you spot someone who has never been a firefighter and knows nothing about firefighting? Look for the one shouting... "The deck gun is the most underutilized piece of equipment!" 😆😅😂🤣

@minerran

Ай бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 I recognize jimkeappock's quote. Its from Mike Pertz's (an experienced FF) channel. Go argue with Pertz Virgil!

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

@@minerran 🤣 Yea you keep telling yourself that. Ive been hearing wannabe's pitch that line since started my FF career back in 1980.

@minerran

Ай бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 Did you actually search for Mike Pertz's channel to verify or do is it more interesting to play the "superior"here? If you started working in 1980 then you are retirement age now ... an angry old man with nothing better to do than troll people? You copied your handle name "virgil hilts" from the character Steve McQueen plays in "the great escape" .... and I'm the wannabe? LOL

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

@@minerran Says the one crying over a decades old assertion made by wannabe's who think using it makes them sound cool. The fact is they are very limited in their usefulness, utterly inappropriate for the vast majority of typical fires.

What's up with the water pressure ??? Come on this is a pro department in a city, WTF

@Mark-em5zm

Ай бұрын

If only the fire fighters were in charge of the water dept and had the keys to boost the pressure.

@rickc.3536

Ай бұрын

@@Mark-em5zm if only newark wasn't a rotting wasteland

@Thug-12Na

Ай бұрын

I guess a ☕️ 1st before

@martinlatal4625

Ай бұрын

Divní Hasiči jak po mrtvici😂😂😂

To this day they are still stretching LDH.

@trvman1

Ай бұрын

Looks like they drove right past the hydrant rather then stoping and laying in the line. You see this all the time on so many fire video's. Engines driving right past hydrants and hand laying the line.

@john6218att

Ай бұрын

@@trvman1 driver should know the location of the hydrants, too raved up to remember their job

@hvfd5956

Ай бұрын

Not sure why they do that. I think some efficiency expert came up with that idea. When I was riding (late 70's) our station chief would regularly drill us on streets and where the plugs were. Even though I was a volly, I had to do the same drills the paid guys had to. As such, on calls, we were expected to know where the streets and plugs were. One night we were headed to a fire in which the first in engine was already there, so we knew we had a fire. We got to the place where we were supposed to turn and the chauffeur kept going. Captain ask him if he was alright and he said yes. Captain explained he missed the turn about 3 blocks back. He turned around and went back. Hey, it was 3 in the morning, not like we had to battle rush hour traffic. We layed 2 2 1/2's and I bailed from my jump seat to help prepare the plug. Used car dealer and someone was late and tried to burn the evidence.

Water might be helpful

All I have to ask is, WHERE'S THE WATER???

@janetclark3557

Ай бұрын

You don't want to open a master stream If there were guys inside searching

@JB91710

Ай бұрын

@@janetclark3557 My GOD! You have no clue, do you? How would soaking those exterior walls and the main fire affect anyone inside the exposures other than PROTECT THEM?

@robertyoung3992

Ай бұрын

double deck guns are employed

@ffjsb

Ай бұрын

@@robertyoung3992 EVENTUALLY...

@Biggestfoot10209

Ай бұрын

First job is saving lives getting people out. Why don’t you volunteer somewhere so you can find out what real life is all about.

Never lost a foundation yet!

All the gear and no idea.

Why am I *not* surprised that this is Newark, New Jersey?? Is there ever a time when Newark, New Jersey *IS NOT* on fire??

@user-vp9ed5um2y

Ай бұрын

Agree

@redbaron474

21 күн бұрын

HEY! another Macrosser! (check the center of my 'iron cross' 😉 )

A paid department and participants in the special Olympics could have gotten water on the fire quicker

@derrickguffey4775

Ай бұрын

Wow! So just by watching a 10 minute video and not knowing all the circumstances involved before during and after you can make that statement. I claim no expertise in fire science but I do take into account that I don't know and can't see everything going on at the scene. And if it is soo easy to do this work why aren't you out there showing all of us how much better you can perform these duties. When all you can do is criticize then perhaps you should refrain from watching these particular types of videos. Snap judgements and unfair assessments are hardly warranted or necessary or even welcome for that matter. Until you can prove you are better and more knowledgeable on the subject from sources other than these videos probably best not to share any opinions lest you make yourself a fool.

@JB91710

Ай бұрын

Maybe the Special Olympics but being paid doesn't instantly make a person competent. You either have a strong and responsible work ethic or you don't. It doesn't come with the uniform.

@JB91710

Ай бұрын

@@derrickguffey4775 Not ONE word of your gibberish taught how to fight fires or explain where this department OBVIOUSLY under performed. People who don't have the ability to THINK and can only follow what they are told, always leave childish comments for people who do.

@SG-hh9lu

Ай бұрын

Quotas and affirmative action ruined the Newark Fire Department, when officer's are promoted by skin color instead of knowledge that's what happens. Newark Fire Department used to be great, I know first hand what happened because I did 32 years there, and it was great back then 😯

@JB91710

Ай бұрын

@SG-hh9lu Bad firefighting has nothing to do with a lack of manpower, equipment, or money. It has everything to do with bad leadership and pour work ethics.

I may be wrong in judging the reply to this fire but it seems like it’s taking an awful long time to get any water on this fire.

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

There was water on the fire before the video even started

@mrknotthall

Ай бұрын

⁠@@virgilhilts3924tell me where. I see no evidence whatsoever.

Where is the water?

why does it take how many minutes to lay out a line and spray water. the firemen are not rushing. seems like they want it to burn more

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

There was water being put on the fire before the video even started. But feel free to keep making yourself look foolish

Hi Jeff, I've watched quite a few American fire videos, im from the UK, and one thing stands out to me is how slow they all seem in getting water flowing. There are firemen dragging hoses all over the place but it takes so long to get everything set up.

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

a) There was water flowing before the video even started b) There was water flowing out of view by the crews working inside (something UK firefighters are afraid to do) c) The main priority was making multiple rescues in the rear as well as search and evac of the exposure structures d) Clearly you have no idea what you are talking about

@TheModelShipwrightPaulLester

Ай бұрын

​@virgilhilts3924 many thanks for politely clearing that up. However still very slow at getting any water on the front or into the building, lots of nice equipment under utilised.

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

@@TheModelShipwrightPaulLester "very slow at getting any water on the front or into the building" -Exactly how long did it take? -I mean to make such an assertion have even a remote chance of being credible you have to be able to specify and prove a time... "lots of nice equipment under utilised" -Specifically how so?

Prayer up to everyone who lost thier business and homes

@basantapoudel1564

Ай бұрын

Butwal

Why are so many civilians so close to / in the fireground? You'd think a few could put down the cell phones and help pull supply hose at least🙄

@Blitz350

Ай бұрын

Or.... OR... the fire department could learn how to LAY HOSE!

@joemazza2583

Ай бұрын

It’s Newark .. it’s a jungle there

All I can think about is all the hose that's gonna need to be picked up 😅

Pro Tip: the fire is INSIDE the 3-story structure on the corner holy Helen Keller

Again other units on scene. Obviously a working fire but dont stop and ring hydrant. Instead waste time hand stretching what i estimate 600+ ft of LDH. The time they spent draggingvit back to hydrant they could have it hooked up and water flowing if they just stopped for 10 seconds and one guy hook hydtant

@ffjsb

Ай бұрын

Absolutely correct...

@justindecker9282

Ай бұрын

There’s a a hydrant right in front of the building

So gotta ask.. no deck gun? to knock it down while you set up for ladder ops?.. Ok i just needed to wait a little longer in the video! Got it

@9caplad

Ай бұрын

rescues were being made

They all seem to be lost on scene

Was going to ask if they ever managed to get any water on it. Good job they got the truckies up onto the roof to stand around watching it burn though. All that manpower and equipment and it still took them almost 4 minutes to get water on the fire?

@BikeLifeLRS

Ай бұрын

Truck guys were on the exposure and were waiting to get orders to cut. Stick to your department with 40 calls a year bud.

@stevenpivornik9982

Ай бұрын

@@BikeLifeLRS That fire had a way head start. That looked like arson right off the bat. Starting off in the middle like that and crawling up the walls. Scary stuff.

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

Thanks for proving that you nothing about firefighting

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

@@BikeLifeLRS He's never even spent one day on the job

OH!! I stand corrected. They have two deck guns, just slow to deploy.

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

How were they "slow"? Exactly how long did it take?

It’s 2024. Why does the hose not eject itself. The labor involved is ridiculous

@sturmovik1274

Ай бұрын

It would have to attach itself to the hydrant as well, otherwise they're just dragging it down the street.

3:11 The store is still open, amazing! Any spacial sales going on!

@JimDog794

21 күн бұрын

Fire sale 75% off!

Beautiful old firetrucks at 3:20! Could be 1980s vintage. That's the way: don't throw away what is still in working condition!

@Signal11

Күн бұрын

Main truck shown at that timestamp is a 2014

@jurgenkuhlmann9194

Күн бұрын

@@Signal11...but the design still is a bit retro, isn't it?

@Signal11

Күн бұрын

@@jurgenkuhlmann9194 True

I thought the object was to spray water ASP.

@sturmovik1274

Ай бұрын

Not a firefighter, but nobody else has answered this, so I'll contribute what I do know. Early in the video, you can hear them say that they're rescuing people out the back, meaning that there are still FFs and civilians inside. One common rule of firefighting is not to spray from the outside while there are FFs working inside. The water stream can knock down and disorient FFs inside, it can bring debris down on them and it can create clouds of superhot steam. Also, the FFs inside presumably have a number of hoselines with them, so it's not like there's no water being used. They use interior OR exterior water, not both together. Again, not a firefighter, but that's my two cents.

@beammachine4525

Ай бұрын

@@sturmovik1274 ah that explains it, thx

I truly have watched 2 departments fight fire so poorly and both are Newark and New York .

There's no point telling us what we can already see & hear from radio traffic. Rest your voice.

The narrator needs to gargle with some warm salty water.

@mrknotthall

Ай бұрын

LOL

Waaaaayyyyyy to long to put water on that fire....... waaaayyyy to long. The truck and ladder were on the hydrant.

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

Exactly how long did it take...? Provide the proof of each time frame...

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

@SuperMarketSimGuy64 You clearly aren't a firefighter

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

@SuperMarketSimGuy64 Your own words prove you've never worked a fire in your life

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

@SuperMarketSimGuy64 The more you type... the more you prove you have never been a firefighter... no matter how many times you 👍 your own comments 🤣

@Mtom0789

Ай бұрын

Before they put water on the fire dont the firefighters have to go in and see if there anyone in the building beore they put water on the fire ​@SuperMarketSimGuy64

Why do they refuse to lay in is beyond me. The time and manpower it takes to go backwards is staggering.

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

So what you are saying is that you have no clue what you are talking about or any idea what is going on here Thanks for confirming that 👍

@redbaron474

21 күн бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 STILL acting like you know what your talking about, huh poser?

Looking at various videos of fires all over the world since a few years now: Every nation has its own pros and cons - just the US firefighters have a speciality - whenever they have to set up against a fire incident, they do it like they have every time they need and like that fire is way bigger than it looks. And so they come with various trucks, lay out those hoses, do some adjustments here and there, try if there is water, put it out again and try another hose and half a hour later or so they have everything ready to put out that big fire it has become finally. Just kidding. Cheers to all firemen all over the world: everyone is glad you do your job! Thanks for your service!

Why doesn't Newark key the hydrant with supply line and then drive up to the fire?? How come your Engines do not use their deck guns sooner to knockdown a lot of fire and slow the extension. (3:25 your tape time) Though they could have been shut down after a few minutes. Once you turned the corner, Don't see the access to the apartments over the Market. Don't see any lines there either. That is the most severe exposure and the most severely exposed due to wind. OK at 8 :30 they are going into the exposure. Looked like a tough job. Once again the reduction in manpower is all too clear.

@thomaswilliamson5951

Ай бұрын

Why did it take so long for them to put water on the fire ?,

@luicalibre6665

Ай бұрын

1. The first engine has to make room for the other apparatus approaching and an LDH supply line blocks there entry. 2. Usually the next engine hits the hydrants then stretches to the first engine or the first due ladder. 3. Using a deck gun from a truck that usually has @ 500 gals of water would drain the tank in 1-1.5 minutes. Yes, the deck gun is under-utilized but a water source must be secured first to feed that thirsty beast.

@BikeLifeLRS

Ай бұрын

@@luicalibre6665finally someone with common sense.

@richardmeo2503

Ай бұрын

@@thomaswilliamson5951 I'm not sure. I know their manpower has been cut, but it was way too long

@richardmeo2503

Ай бұрын

@@luicalibre6665 I don't agree with #3. With that much fire you have to hit it quick to stop or slow the extension. Look what happened by waiting. (We don't know how long units were there before Jeff started filming.) As to #1 Why not key hydrant with supply line, 1FF stays there to hookup to hydrant, and rig drives on to fire?? Then you have good position and water. Meanwhile the other FF can start to stretch a line or operate Deck gun.

you should look up the definition of fully involved

@ffjsb

Ай бұрын

Just what I was thinking. A lot of fire for sure, but definitely NOT fully involved.

Hey E15, way to drive right by the hydrant as the 2nd due without dropping the line.

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

Oh gee look yet another armchair quarterback blowing his hole 🤣

Let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right my thoughts are with the people who lost their business let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and police who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual great team efforts are deeply appreciated thanks wonder what the couse was stay safe and warm out there much love and respect and appreciation job well done you should be amazed and proud its a service we can't live without right god bless you guys thanks !!! Joe

Today, Boston fire department responded to a fire where two 3 decker occupied buildings were fully involved in the rear or the C side of the buildings. Within one minute, the battalion chief ordered a third alarm. Trapped residents were successfully evacuated in just over three minutes. The fire was reported to be knocked down in just about 25 minutes where overhauling operations commenced. The all out was sounded in a little over an hour while companies were making up. This is Boston fire department and why it has such a great reputation. I know the way it fights fires with over 30 years in observing them personally. From what I observed in this video, Newark FD needs to be restaffed with qualified chiefs and undergo retraining of its officers and members. This was a very poor performance of leadership and so-called professional firefighting.

2:21 thanks for reminding me that I'm impotent; and have an enlarged prostate....

Glad to see a fre company utilize their deck guns that's why u buy them

Hope all got out safely. Got out of control quickly.

Where be the tower ladders??

Liked, subscribed and shared your video and your channel

Not a SINGLE deck gun in operation!! Terrible decision making!!

@bobvidoni5898

Ай бұрын

Two were eventually deployed.

@ffjsb

Ай бұрын

Well when nobody bothers to lay a supply line...

@dennispatrick7158

Ай бұрын

@@ffjsb A supply line was laid but not charged for about 10 minutes. Why, who knows.

@rexmayn3171

Ай бұрын

They had to wait for Tony Soprano and Snooki to give the ‘ok’.

@dennispatrick7158

Ай бұрын

@@rexmayn3171 Ahhh, I knew something was afoot!! Thanks for sharing that!!

You fire fighters do fantastic job keeping us all safe be safe all fantastic videos as always 👍🇬🇧👏

@JB91710

Ай бұрын

Do you actually believe that after watching these guys doing the exact opposite?

@RetLtFF43

Ай бұрын

@@JB91710Hey look who came out of mommy’s basement! It’s the KZread Trained Fire Chief

@BikeLifeLRS

Ай бұрын

@@JB91710this is the guy that “can’t” get his mask on outside of the building

@JB91710

Ай бұрын

@@RetLtFF43 I've probably already asked you this but, how old are you, 6? Is talking firefighting tactics beyond your skill level?

@BikeLifeLRS

Ай бұрын

@@JB91710the way that the video is edited, it shows the same scene from different angles multiple times. The deck gun was used a lot sooner than the video shows, the driver that used it had to hop over and use another company’s gun due to low manpower. You’d also know that you probably shouldn’t blast a building when you have guys working inside, something that we can all tell that you are unfamiliar with. Find a different line of work champ.

Awesome catch man!! Thanks for putting it up and with the comms!!

#1 request PD for crowd control ,establish a Collapse zone ,move autos blocking additional resources.Never pass a serviceable ( Working) Hydrant .Hook up and let the heavy hose deploy .Caution a Deck gun is great,but limited to number of gallons of water in the tank .Occupied building with Lots of windows ,but no portable ladders .If the members on the roof used the interior stairs to get to the roof.A ladder is needed for emergency from the roof for quick exit.Conditions change quickly Do NOT use such a heavy volume stream ,so close to members operating on the flat roof .They may be blown off from high pressure .Where was the command post ? Safe Tours Always 🙏🇺🇸

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

And there's the couch commander right on cue 🤣

@charlesdalton6262

Ай бұрын

@@virgilhilts3924 Looks like there were more commanders than my self ,in the comments section .Any way Safe Tours 🇺🇸

They deserve alot of credit tons of it let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going great team efforts are deeply appreciated thanks let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right stay safe and warm out there love you guys thanks !! Joe 😅😅😊

Look at all the idiots double parked.

Jesus christ people.... Get out your Essentials book and look up "forward lay".🙄🙄🙄

In other news to review.. the Hot Toddy had a hint of smoky flavor today.

Look at how old these buildings are.

Any time you get a Fire in a Liquor Store you have More Fuel for the Fire to burn.

@ffjsb

Ай бұрын

No. Just NO. VERY few liquors will actually burn well until you get up to 150 proof. And there aren't that many liquors of that proof.

🧐 jetzt gibts kein Liquor mehr zum trinken 😳

It took 3:30 minutes to get the first deck gun fired up from the beginning of this video. That doesn’t actually tell us how long from when the engine first arrived on scene which not shown in this video. On the other hand, in a similar fire in Boston it took 1.15 minutes from when Engine 56 first arrived on scene for the pump operator to get water onto the fire with his deck gun. Excellent teamwork. He uses tank water first while other members set up hydrant and keeps the water flowing without interruption. Record timing. Kudos BFD. This is common with Boston Fire. I’ve witnessed it dozens of times. 👎Newark Fire Department needs a replacement of this battalion chief or deputy chief and retraining of its firefighters. Absolutely no excuse for such a delay in getting water onto the fire. This is not a volunteer department located in the boonies that rely on tank water supplied by trucks. I’ve even seen such departments get water faster on a fire utilizing the engine’s tank water.

Modern wirkende Feuerwehr! Aber kein Tanklöschfahrzeug, das verzögert die Löscharbeiten massiv!

Fire seems to have started in Latinos BBQ Restaurant (574 Broadway)

Two firefighters committed on adjacent roof and water hits the building (well i say hit) at 3.30 minutes!!!

I know east coast radio communication is different than the Midwest, why does dispatch talk so much. Why doesn't command talk to everyone on scene, then if he needs something, he talks to dispatch.

@douglasstocks9698

Ай бұрын

Here in the UK all the emergency services radios operate on secure channels that ca t be listened into.

Great video Jeff stay safe brother...😮

It sure took long enough for them to start spraying water...

Great video. Fire ground challenges are easier to critique than they are address first hand.

@ffjsb

Ай бұрын

Well EVENTUALLY they got water on the fire I guess...

Dumping the deck gun??

saw it all the way from branch brook park

Awesome footage! May God bless all the emergency personnel who put their lives at risk to save ours. I hope everyone got out ok and that they may be able to recover from this.

Good camera angle at the first half minute: we see the effect of flammable material on the outside of the house to the right (exposure 4, I guess), probably some sort of plastic used as waterproof cover. What does this remind us of? Yes, the Grenfell Tower disaster in London some 4 years ago: styrofoam on the outside of the highrise had caught fire, causing the whole structure to burn like a torch. Fire seems to have started in that barbecue restaurant in the middle. Forgotten to turn off that deep fryer, probably!

Why didn't Newark utilize the other 2 Ladder trucks during this fire ? It went from bad to worse because they tried fighting it from the ground.

Jeff, Great job on the narration!! Do also do "TheMajestirium1" platform in NYC??

Great Job Jeff AND Fantastic Coverage Stay Safe Bro

I expect nothing less from drivers in New Jersey.

either civilians could help pull hose or get the hell out of the way !!!!

Is this the same narrator from the Magestirium KZread channel?

@FDNY8231

Ай бұрын

Noooooo

I don't know if it is just me, or whether there is an underlying reason not known to me, but in the United Kingdom, Belgium, Germany etc water is pumped a lot sooner on to the fire than in the US. In the UK a small line or two are put into action immediately on arrival whilst the main lines are setup. There also doesn't seem to be the urgency to fight the fire. If you YT several fire fighting videos from Netherlands, you will see what I mean. Does anyone have any insight into this?

They were rescuing people. Cant spray until they are out of the way. Other side was already spraying

Holzhäuser?

master stream engaged at the 4min mark. Earlier would have been better - so says common sense and also some experienced firefighters with youtube channels!

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

Oh gee look yet another armchair commando who hasn't a clue what he's babbling about

Some are helping, some are filming …

Was this a 5th alarm fire?

Once they had those 2 deck monitors going, they took care of business!

Respect aux pompiers pour leurs dévouement sauver les gens et les biens les héros

Great Job by the PD, the battalion and the civilian autos blocking out the scene so additional resources could not be brought into the front of the fire building, ex. a tower ladder or additional ladder truck

Okay fire service leaders..... in this day and age, when FF cancer is still a devastating problem, why do FF's walk into a wall of smoke with no air?

most fire departments let the structure burn down before taking any action. usually they take 2-1/2 hours to set up for a 15 minute operation.

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

I see you are quite bitter over the fact that you couldn't get a single FD to hire you 🤣

Awesome coverage and awesome job by all responders. Hope everyone is ok...🤗🤗

This more than a 3 alarm it's definitely 4 that terrible 😢🙏🙏

Is there a drought in Newark?

Looks as though the fire team spent. A few minuets in Tony’s.

Hand dragging a bed of LDH and 5 mins to get master streams going. I don’t want to ever hear about volly departments again.

Why did it take so long put water on?????

Did they ever find out what caused the fire?

New Jersey does not know how to fight fires, because they are scare to put water on the fire

❤😂😂❤❤😂😂😅😅😊😊😊😊its a service we can't live without right they deserve alot of credit tons of it let's honor and appreciate the paramedics and firemen and police who proudly serve us your service and time and efforts are deeply appreciated thanks great job great team work and great and sweet catches as usual still going strong great team efforts are deeply appreciated thanks let's stop and hope everyone is doing ok right stay safe and warm out there !! Joe

Turn the fucking water on.

Was machen die Komiker, auf dem linken Dach?

Charge the Line!

@virgilhilts3924

Ай бұрын

There are charged lines everywhere and in use.

I guess the fire crews forgot to grab a hand line and hook it up and start spraying water on the fire on the roof. That could have slowed down at least the exterior fire while the hydrants were being hooked up. The deck guns are great but you can start putting water on the Fire with a hand line with one person while other crews are doing other tasks.

4:30 - 2 Deck Guns ! ! ! 😍😍

Quá chuyen nghiệp cho đội chưa lửa 👍

Сколько зарплата у пожарных в Америке?

3 minutes to get water, from the start of the video. Big red hoses, a lot of water from the city, and then you see the deck gun with the same pressure of your house hose. It's pretty embarrassing having those big trucks, big V8 engine, a lot of lights and then nothing. Probably a lot of the power is needed for the alternators to keep all those lights on. In Europe, we have truck half the size of those US, and not only they are smaller, but they have internal tank for water and foam!

All those bodega Coors Light going to waste. Shame.