Hi all, This is a message from the East Contra Costa Fire Protection District chief… wanted to pass it along regarding this fire. To all Commenting: I want to acknowledge that I am aware of these comments and I respect your perspective and opinions. But I also would to provide you with a little bit of background and not debate what we should’ve done when it comes to strategy and tactics on this fire. Our members take great pride in what we do regardless of the resources we have and in this instance I stand behind our members at scene. With that said, at the time of Dispatch there were three homes heavily involved and the crews took a defensive stance once they arrived at scene. At the end of the incident three homes were impacted and there were no injuries to report. The area this fire was in has many challenges from access to no hydrants. Our members are very familiar with the challenges in this areas and our objective was to ensure no other homes (outside of the three initially involved) were impacted. For some more background on our challenges, ECCFPD is a rural funded fire district that protects approximately 249 square miles and protects over 120,000 residents with three (3) Staffed Fire Stations. As identified by many studies, the District is underfunded and under resourced by at least 4-6 stations. ECCFPD currently has three (3) fire stations staffed by three (3) firefighters, for a total district staffing of nine (9) firefighters per day. The District responds to over 7,700 calls a year that depends on approximately 9,590 fire engine responses to mitigate the 7,700 calls. The district provides firefighting personnel and emergency medical services (basic life support) to the residents and businesses of the City of Brentwood, and Oakley, and to the Townships of Discovery Bay, Bethel Island, Knightsen, Byron, Marsh Creek, and Morgan Territory. The District has worked for years to increase resources in the District and all initiatives have not been supported by the community. We are truly doing the best we can with the resources that we have. Please let me know if you would like to further discuss. If you would like to have a conversation please call me the cell number below. Sincerely, Brian Helmick Fire Chief ECCFPD 925-584-8468

@ff271emt

5 жыл бұрын

It would be easier to just remove the video at this point!!

@michaeldaniels2433

5 жыл бұрын

Bold move putting a phone number on KZread comments

@EastCountyToday

5 жыл бұрын

all about transparency @@michaeldaniels2433

@sergeantseven4240

5 жыл бұрын

At that point the community can't blame anyone but themselves for not getting the funding to the correct channels to get a working hydrant system and more fire houses with staffing. This is what happens when you vote against budgets and taxes that provide essential services.

@dixiemay1996

5 жыл бұрын

Why stiffer building coded should be enforced...........agree the heat alone was enough to help ignite the green home but I'm sure some real estate between them would have made the work a lot less tedious...IMO

I spent 14 years as a firefighter and I have never saw such disorganization on scene of a house fire. This is disgusting to watch a second house go up in flames. I watched the first 4 minutes of this video and saw one charged line and they weren't even shooting it on the correct side of the house to at least save the house. Has any of these firefighters had any formal firefighting training? This looks like the dumb and dumber fire department. So sorry for the residents that lost their homes due to lack of skills from this fire department. Time for a change in command.

@cal87249

6 ай бұрын

infact in all video that im watching on you tube look like the american fire man are so lasy just waiting the fire taking everythings crazy

"HEY!! Homeowner..get the f**k outta that car!! How dare you try to save it when we're trying to let everything burn!!"

As a retired professional, in my avocation as a fairly well trained volunteer, I have fought at least a thousand fires in my life. I have watched hundreds more on You Tube and other media. Most of the time I have been positively impressed by the excellent work and execution of clear training of volunteers who make up over 80% of America's firefighters. I honestly can not remember when I have seen a worse organized and attacked fire scene in my life than this one in Contra Costa County. I saw at least two water tenders but no set up or used water holders. I witnessed no chain of filler tenders working to continually keep them filled and functioning. Literally, there were segments of five to ten minutes when no water was being applied to blazing buildings. These untended blazing buildings were igniting others in clear sight of command officers who were visibly doing nothing to work together to establish a plan of action and communication that could have been given to the firefighters. Total ineptitude and deserving of no air time on You Tube but to be used as evidence for dismissal of leadership. You Tube made this whole ordeal a sad, laughing stock and yet at the end people were seen as posing for photos as if they were proud of their of their lack of skill and training. I don't need to hear any excuses or insults by those who think they can intimidate me with foul language and poor logic. Anyone, with or without training in fire fighting will agree that this was one huge, botched job. I wonder what the Contra Cost fire insurance code number is? I would be surprised if this demonstration did not bring it down farther. The voters should keep the fire commissioners "feet to the fire" to correct this situation and set goals for higher insurance ratings.

@brianjacobi

4 жыл бұрын

Well said Sir. Nice to hear comments from an ex professional, highlighting things that the rest of us watchers with our various levels of knowledge are thinking but perhaps unable to put into clear perspective. I felt quite sad really, as in my own experience the men I worked with would have been able to do most of what was required without officer direction, and to see these men floundering brought a tear to my eye. A bad day for all. Thank you for posting your informed comments. Regards. Brian. New Zealand.

мда, в России за такую работу все пожарные бы пошли под суд... дикая некомпетентность. по сути, вся работа свелась к тому - подождём когда всё догорит, а потом затушим угли. и им всё равно сколько рядом стоящих домов сгорит.

Absolutely no command and no coordination of resources. I was a firefighter for over 40 years and this is the worst I have ever seen!

Being a retired fire chief I can say had this been my department I would have been ashamed to call them my crew. This is the worst command I have seen in many years. There is NO REASON this fire could not have been contained to the first house. I could have stopped that fire with two engines and the tankers I saw in the initial start of the video. When a house is on fire inside you don't piss away your water on the non burning side of the wall... ATTACK the heart of the fire and knock it down! Please tell me these chiefs and these crews were sent back to the academy for re-training.

@EastCountyToday

5 жыл бұрын

Really? Because 3 homes were on fire at the time of dispatch. First engine arrived on scene nearly 11-minutes later.

Never in my many years as a firefighter have I seen such incompetence in a Fire Department.

I'm no firefighter, but the loss of that third house could've been prevented pretty easily.

I am truly speechless at the faffing around and total inaction of these crews to tackle the fire and prevent it from spreading! Absolutely unbelievable!

It appeared to be the homeowner (of the fully involved but still standing home) try to get his car out of the driveway...but was escorted away. The poor guy wanted to save something he owned.

I am a FF daughter. This is painful to watch. Incompetence..

Это не пожарные, это просто идиоты вышли погулять

This absolutely pitiful. That green house could have been saved but the firemen didn't put any water where it was needed. The one fireman looked drunk.

@paintballgaming1090

5 жыл бұрын

Wiletta Miller They had no hydrant

@user-vi3ur8bw8k

4 жыл бұрын

As sayin in Russia: Firefighters came drunk and with no water

I’ve recently retired after 52 years in the fire service. This is a prime example of the need for training in incident command, strategy and tactics, and Hose evolutions. Hoses that are too far from the structure or improperly aimed do nothing but waste water.

Сколько видео не смотрю, как пожарники в Америке работают, это полный писец🤦... Им бы ещё шашлычки с собой, музончик и вискаря...

I feel sorry for the property owner's.when you get your house rebuilt.invest in a garden hose it would have done a better job than that fiasco that turned up,

I've been a firefighter for 7 years in two different departments and I've never heard of any firefighter or officer tell someone they can't move their car!!! They weren't even doing anything to protect it, probably the last thing the guy had...

@EastCountyToday

5 жыл бұрын

I guess you don't care if they run over the hose line? What are they going to do, stop operations to move the hose line to get the vehicle out or save multiple homes not impacted? Also, they had multiple hose lines in the road and also multiple fire trucks on the road. No where for the vehicle to go? Plus they had to keep it open for the water tenders to get in and out.

@rebelyank6361

5 жыл бұрын

Plenty of room to move the car without running over lines and the propane tank was venting.

@Brian13549

5 жыл бұрын

Plan and simple fuck the car that guy put firefighters in danger. Plus I wouldn't waste man power on saving a car that's not even burning main priority stop the fire and that guy probably had plenty of time to that car way before all those lines were laid down. Plus how would your family feel if they were told you died trying to stop some dumbass from moving their car and if any firefighter or officer would let someone walk in to this dangerous situation then they do not belong in this field.

@lyndseymarieburke1834

5 жыл бұрын

If that tank blew up there wouldn't be any thing let there including the shitty department.@@deepposeidon289

Every firefighter academy should show this video On how not to fight a fire.

Нет,ребята,это не пожарные,а хрен знает кто.Ведь как должно быть?Приехали,развернулись,локализовали очаг.Нет,больно просто-надо,чтобы и соседний дом сгорел.Им платят за это что-ли!?Ходят,как в штаны насрали,прости Господи!Чуть ли не курят на ходу!Двигаются бестолково,на звено бойцов-командир с планшетом.Смотреть тошно!

Several years ago, Ventura County California Fire Department earned itself as the nationwide crowning example of fire fighting incompetence over a botched residential house fire response in Simi Valley, the scene of which was widely circulated in social media and through the major press. Their example had held for YEARS and roundly panned in disgust by professional firefighters from coast to coast as the crowning example of what NOT to do. UNTIL NOW. Yes, ECCFPD ... WE GET there is a water supply problem in that area. Unfortunately, that issue was COMPOUNDED exponentially by the very very very poor use of the tanker water that was available. The third (Green) house HAD a chance in the early on IF that exposure drew ANY attention whatsoever from the first on-scene firefighters and the water supply was husbanded efficiently to protect that house. Instead, the limited water supply was directed onto second structure that was ALREADY GONE. THAT HOUSE was expended needlessly on the alter of the crappiest firefighting I have EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE. One thing is for sure, ECCFPD has now assumed the premier nationwide title of the WORST fire fighting and it may be a LONG LONG time before any other agency is inept enough to grab the title away from you. And, it helps not that the ECCFPD Fire Chief tosses out such utter plaintiff examples of justification imaginable to justify such a slovenly performance along with attempting to burnish a spoiled apple by reciting useless statistics data about his 'so-called' department which don't bear out in ACTUAL expertise. Spare us ALL Chief Helmick with all of that. You need to tear that department down to the foundation, and find someone ELSE to build it back up to a useful and effective organization. Because, if this the example of your handiwork.... You are NOT the guy to be leading it.

Houses #1 and #2 were totally gone by the time the Fire Trucks arrived. So they should have concentrated their efforts on limiting the damage to house #3. Too much talking and not enough water being placed on house #3. They just gave up on house #3. I spotted more firemen holding pens and notepads than fire hoses...!!! My dad is a retired Harrisburg PA professional City firefighter and he'd be ashamed to see this event.

Glad I'm not the only one amazed at the incompetence shown in this video. I was watching it and shaking my head in disbelief and decided to see what the comments were before I could finish the video. Retired 12 yrs Asst. Chief, TO.

@lyndseymarieburke1834

5 жыл бұрын

I was a Battalion Chief CA.

It really feels like these firefighters are quietly watering their garden.

“Turn around, stay there. Gotcha! Gotta get the alien picture”...what? This is disappointing. Wanna save this house? Oops too late how about the next one? Oops..too late...next one maybe?

Rumor has it that the fire is still progressing down the block to this day...

@billcochran6374

5 жыл бұрын

Chad Davis I’ve also heard that there is just no way to stop it.

No reason to have lost that green house. Minute after minute of firefighters wandering around without putting water on fire. Half-assed.

@infirmuxx

5 жыл бұрын

When firefighters arrived, the green house has been already doomed.

@JB91710

5 жыл бұрын

@@davidwhite2544 Now I'm not going to call you a random, meaningless name, I am going to Label you based on what you said. "Braindead, Ignorant, Idiot! The idiot label might have been a little over the top but the others caused me to add it. 1. YOU don't get to determine what is lost! Your JOB is to Stop The Threat as Fast and Safe as possible while using the Least amount of water! 2. "Don't like to Monday morning quarterback critique these 1 sided videos." Seriously? Yo0u can't see that they have no idea how to apply water to burning material? Yep, I'm leaving Idiot there for sure!

@JB91710

5 жыл бұрын

TED Another loser! Why did they even bother to show up?

@billdacitizan380

5 жыл бұрын

@@JB91710 You are right This is an example of untrained FFs with no leadership. Sad

@JB91710

5 жыл бұрын

@@maxpower8916 You knock down that outside wall with the Deck Gun and get a Booster line inside to check for extension into the attic. You do your JOB, you do NOT stand on the street and decide what is a write off!

I'll admit that I am not a firefighter, merely a firefighting enthusiast. I saw that fire and my first thought was to get the first line on the third building. It seems that the professionals agree with me. I am trying to restrain myself from saying this too loosely, but in this case, I could have done a better job.

5:19 you know the house is on fire right.

Love that the Chief responds there were 3 houses heavily involved. No there were 2 and if the chief and his merry band of misfits started hosing down the green house it could have been saved. They keep on talking water pressure, but they miraculously find it with the 3rd house gone. A few charged hoses on the ground not being used. Okay you have 9 FF's. But if they were all working instead of walking around with blank looks, more could have been done. Hell, half of them couldn't figure out to hold the hose. The one almost fell over it. I've seen VFD's with 3-4 people do a better job with far better training. Quickly hooing up to a hydrant and stretching a hose or 2 in under 4 minutes. No walking around like confused zombies. Chief if you can condone the actions, resign and let someone with command experience take over.

There’s nothing I can say that hasn’t already been said really . Such a great loss for all residents . How good is the first firefighter watering down the wrong side of the green house . He is doing NOTHING. I’m going back to watching the Russian vids.

The 4th House could be next , Give them all a Donut and just sit and watch the City Burn down

I am speechless over this. I actually had to double check the caption because I thought it was a controlled burn. Absolute embarrassment.

Most inefficient bunch of so called firefighters I've ever saw.

I was eyeing that poor Lexus the whole time

it's just disgusting work friends, you missed the second house, which was the spread of fire, it could save blagodarya competent and quality performance of firefighters

I can't believe that they are standing around chit chatting and letting the houses burn. What a wonderful fire department. I wouldn't want them at my place to put out the fire.

My mother in law lives a few houses down from there, we were really worried because the fire was so close, the Firemen seemed like they had no clue what to do, the green house was not burning when they got there and if you watch the video, they start by hosing water on the other side of the house, the side that was not next to the burning house? I really believe if they would have concentrated the water on the other side WHERE THE FIRE WAS! they could have saved the green house from burning. They also had everything blocked off so people could not get out, my mother in is 80 and she had no power and the smoke was choking! I had to walk in from town, put her in a wheelchair and push her out of there because the fire departments needed to play with their toys, they were parked up and down Taylor road blocking everything off and trapping people in there! they were not using most of those trucks, they could have parked them in town and left an opening for people to get out. The fire department and the police department need to put peoples safety first! They did not seem to care at all, they just wondered around all dressed up in their gear talking and watching the show, it was sad and my heart goes out to the people that lost their homes.

@freddapelter8332

5 жыл бұрын

That is horrible!! Im glad your mom is ok. It definately seems like public safety is NOT a concern for them here.

Let's just wonder around mindlessly while a third home burns to the ground.

Столько понтов, столько лишних хлебоедов...... Диву доешся

Да этим пожарникам до наших очень далеко

They came, they saw, and the house burned down!👀😂🤔

I was waiting for them to take a break and pull out the hot dogs and marshmallows. but then I realized the whole firefight was a break.

No Hydrants!!! That big wet thing at the back, that's a large body of water. Those big red things at the front, they're pumps. Just sayin'

Приехали пожарные когда еще второй дом был цел, начали тушить в итоге и второй дом полностью до тла сгорел.

@vitalino1456

4 жыл бұрын

Смысл им кипятится , страховка покроет всё, ещё и сверху дадут больше... Это ж не Россия, мы что зря платим тут такую дорогую страховку...

@user-bf7yp9wo5b

4 жыл бұрын

Я ссу в два раза дальше..

@spacecatboy2962

4 жыл бұрын

i heard that the fire was started by the KGB

@user-up3ce4nz6g

4 жыл бұрын

Я тоже следил за этим домом ! Его сразу надо было заливать со стороны пожара , а они просто прыгали .

@DimaD-td1pv

4 жыл бұрын

Пиздец , бездари.

So sad and tragic for the people who lost their houses.

Normally I'm pro firefighters but man did they fuck up. I have to agree with the majority here and I don't think there's a way around it this time.

I’m glad I’m not in this video because if I was in it and my chief saw this I would be out of a job ASAP

Второй дом сгорел от плохой работы спасателей!!!

@toceone4799

3 жыл бұрын

да, надо было проливать его чтобы от температуры не загорелся

I'm so confused. How did the first house burn completely down?? Did no one notice it burning? I mean it's a cellar at the point where the video starts. How long did it take these "firefighters" to get to the location? Wow. So glad I live in a city that has a professional, well funded department.

I've seen explorers who could definitely do a better job. They let that green house burn up .The one line being used in front of the green house should have been used to save the green house . Instead they are wasting water on the house that is falling in and completely on fire .And then in back of the Green House they have 2 lines not even reaching the fire. They should save the water to protect exposes. And I haven't even watched the entire video yet . I'm at the 9 minute mark..

@jkepub

5 жыл бұрын

I only managed to get to the 6 min mark before I couldn't watch any more. Seemed like complete ineptitude from the FFs! What a waste 😕

I'm wondering what was going on. I cant see the whole picture, but I see.alot of men running around an nobody fighting fire in the beginning. That one structure could have been saved possibly. Unless I'm missing something. Jus seemed like nobody was hurting themselves to get this under control.

WTF???? They just keep watching doing *almost* nothing?!

I was a professional firefighter for 8 years and I am beside myself right now.

@HAWKSTA24

5 жыл бұрын

Wow, eight years? You're so experienced!!!

No dump tanks in use... they're nursing off the two tankers, emptying them, then sending them out for more. Dump tank would allow the tanker to dump its load and then immediately return for more while they work off the dumped water. If its really "just" a quarter mile to water supply..... set up a relay pump and use your engines to boost the water to the fire and have an unlimited supply. It may very well be impossible to reach the river due to access, but use what you have access to!

Я сам пожарный и у нас много недостатков, оснащение хуже но работаем в десятки раз лучше., по крайней мере соседний дом спасли бы и машины. У них боевки как новые у всех.

6:05 What is that uncooled white cylinder thing that I can clearly see? Fire Chief states that there is no access to any hydrants in that area. Can someone tell him that at 23:39 I can see a boat floating upon something that he may be unfamiliar with.

They do understand the concept of the water going ON the fire right?

@lukasahs6064

5 жыл бұрын

Of course. If you read what they said they didn't have access to a secure water source.

@darkwaters1010

5 жыл бұрын

Apparently they do not.

"It's burned down before we can put it out", well these firefighters should try harder then, not much happening trough the video and lack of water can be no excuse at all with that many water tankers and a lake on the rear of those houses.

Позорная работа спасателей. За что им платят деньги???

You do not have to be firefighter to see how bad they preformance are here. RIP green house.

As a recently retired professional California firefighter, I am absolutely appalled watching this video. There are some Captains and a B/C that need to be addressed at the Post Incident Debriefing ... No I.C. , Structure protection on the #2 side was an after-thought... Shame on Contra Costa County Fire.

I've seen sedated terrapins move quicker than these so-called firefighters This was NOT a fire fight ...this was a fire monitor.....they may as well have shown up with a sack of marshmallows

@johnbee3416

5 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

Oh WOW! I used to live on Taylor Rd. about a half mile from these houses. I totally remember that green house with the sea horse on it. So sad. Really sorry for the home owners. Just glad no one was hurt.

This was the most pitiful, disorganised fire-department I have ever seen! Y'all need to go back to school and start your training all over again. That Greenhouse should have never burned down! Y'all were just standing around with your thumbs up your asses not even trying to put that fire out on that Greenhouse! Terrible, horrible job!

Ummmm are we gonna put some water on this fire at some point?? Amatures

@brandonlarsen4813

5 жыл бұрын

there aren't any fire hydrants on bethel island they have to get the water from the bay so it takes time with the water tankers to reload

@hossinator04

5 жыл бұрын

Umm I counted 3 tanker trucks so no need for the green house to have burned NONE!!! This looked like a bunch of probies and for the white hat to pose for a picture is unreal!!!

@brandonlarsen4813

5 жыл бұрын

The green house was on fire before they got there.bethel island doesnt have their own department so they came from 10 to 15 miles away

@speculizer1971

5 жыл бұрын

Brandon Larsen sir, with all due respect, I’m not one to armchair critique brothers this was absolutely pathetic!! They absolutely allowed the green house and its contents to be lost. This was the biggest waste in a couple million in FFing equip and manpower I’ve ever seen hands down! They had ALL the water they needed behind the home in the river orlake or whatever the one in back was drafting from and until they initiated that water supply there were at least 3 tankers to ACTUALLY FIGHT FIRE AND SAVE PROPERTY.

Could have saved the third house but fuck too much standing around doing nothing.

вам клоунам только в цирке выступать

Suspend all those involved in fighting the fire...useless staff

What a poor fire dept

@4133EWvianen

5 жыл бұрын

Start a collection to help them out!!!!

@raventhelabrador2665

5 жыл бұрын

What department is this anyone know ? It's pretty pathetic regardless of who they are.

@lukasahs6064

5 жыл бұрын

Matthew King thank the city budget.

The worst job I ever see....thumbs down for this fire fighters! Thanks for posting!

В момент подготовки к огнетушению спасатель не успел проснуться. Его подняли с постели, но разбудить забыли...!!!

As a officer for a Wyoming city volunteer department that got National #1 4 years running in 1980-84...I can say with the equipment we had then, could have knocked this fire down in 1/4 of the hem haws here...think on that!

Love how there is no rush to put the f#####g thing out. Wish someone had told the fire fighters spraying water on the left side of the green house that the fire was on the right side. 5 mins in and still no water from the trucks that pulled up. Why is everyone just walking about. Has no one seen the big arse flames ripping through someone's life.

@jimmontgomery6523

5 жыл бұрын

BOBBA Can't the fire men save anything. Firemen lost the houses and most everything in the driveway. No houses left. Maybe even a vehicle. This fire has burned like no firemen showed up. How terrible did anyone know how to fight this fire? The homeowners are devastated and the firemen can't seem to figure out what to do and how to keep the fire from spreading. With all those fire trucks and firemen, what did they accomplish?

@PLANETARYBABE

5 жыл бұрын

We had 3 burn similar to this..only the homes were 3 story....6 master bedrooms ( HUGE oceanfront rentals). By the time we arrived on scene..nothing was left of the first house but what looked like giant burning toothpicks (the house pilings). The second was fully involved..and because we were in a Nor'easter storm..the flames were being directly blown onto the 3rd house....like a blow torch. Even using the wind to aide in the carrying of water..mother nature proved to be more than any of us could handle. IMHO, it's us firefighters who have to try to change the building codes and zoning laws..no one else will do it for us. We might also be able to sharing ideas with up and coming new home builders..on what NOT to do or use in construction..and how to better prepare our homes in the event fire exposure.

So many firemen and so many just standing or walking around watching.

@airfona

5 жыл бұрын

I know and that ff that hid behind the truck because he was concerned about the propane tanks exploding. OMG! It was almost comical.

@montanaminck8423

5 жыл бұрын

But got to raise taxes

Это больше было не тушение пожара а коллективное созерцание загорания пол района😅😅

this "fire protection" is a shame

Sadly Bethel Island does not have a fire department. They have to come from Oakley or Brentwood, 8-10 miles away. Then they have to fill their water tanks a quarter mile away from these fires. Obviously two homes were totally lost before they even arrived. There's a Slough running right behind these homes and all the water needed and more but I understand that only one fire boat arrived at some point to help. Bethel Island needs a Fire Dept.desperately because every fire is a total loss. There is no way to save a single structure on the island if it catches on fire! And sadly it's an island surrounded by water! WTH?

@suesmith5746

5 жыл бұрын

They need special pumps with filters to use lake or river water and if it is salt water even more specialized equipment. Water from a hydrant is not full of garbage and is under pressure. This department needs to invest in some of that equipment.

@jaysmith1408

5 жыл бұрын

It’s in central California, that’s fresh water. You could draft as much water as that pump could push. That’s a shitload more water than you’d get out of the average hydrant, with added perk about not bursting mains or over usage. The Volunteer Bethel Island Fire Department was disbanded when the ECCFPD took over, shut down the station in 2012.

@deaconcolt

5 жыл бұрын

@@suesmith5746 All trucks carry that equipment. All it is is a filter and piece of hard suction hose. Its the same thing they use to draft out of the tanker's dump tanks.

Hey that was a great idea turning the hose on 👍

Странные пожарные! Очень странные!!(( Наверное все страховка покроет, вот они и не торопиться...

All that apparatus and only one engine pumping water from the canal?

These are surround and drown departments!!! Their motto should be "have not lost a foundation yet and gotta keep our gear clean for the cameras"!!! Someone needs to look into this. Putting water on a structure that is clearly lost. Sure the green house is going to have damage but might have saved some stuff. Smfh. *27 year firefighter

@roadscholar9323

5 жыл бұрын

I noticed how CLEAN the turnouts were! Good catch! We used to have to turn ours in about every year or so they'd be so beat up.

10 seconds into this video and i was saying to myself, I see this hose line going to the wrong side of the house where there isn't any fire. Dummies, the fire is on the other side.

Так пожары не тушат. Очень плохо !!!

For those of you wondering this is suburb of Oakland CA, it has a wonderful tax base and access to some of California’s best fire fighting training. So......

@454firemanblaze

5 жыл бұрын

Obviously this Department and the Chief were NOT invited!!

If you were in to the mains hit it with the deck gun could've saved the green structure ..firefighter 30 years

@ffjsb

5 жыл бұрын

I don't know that you would've "saved" it, but some of the contents possibly would've been saved. But deck guns DEFINITELY should've been used.

@rebelyank6361

5 жыл бұрын

3rd house is already down, 1st tanker unload through a deck gun between the first 2 houses, stretch handline to 2nd floor of 1st house to keep fire out of interior, they had at least 7500 gallons in those 3 tankers, next due engine start sucking out of the bay. Fireboat coming, drown the middle house.

@ffjsb

5 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a halfway decent plan to me.

@donbrinkman3874

5 жыл бұрын

I hope this Dept reads these comments and maybe, just maybe, can learn something.

Absolutely pathetic and embarrassing. Basically no command structure and no real attempt being made to hustle and protect the easily salvageable exposure. A defensive fire doesn’t translate to “no effort needed.” Drills and regular training are obviously nonexistent at your department. These are people’s homes full of things they care about. Remember that the next time you want to throw a pack and play fireman.

Excellent. Job well done. Left nothing to burn anymore. This can only be possible with such a coordinated, planned "team work". My congratulations to the seniors with writing pads.

да наши пожарники супер герои по сравнению с этими тюленями

hopefully this video can be used on what not to do at the next fire. lessons learned i hope!!

Wow, this is crazy. They need to train these men and figure out a water solution to help this community. The language the firefighters wouldn’t be tolerated either. Prayers to all the families involved.

This group of individuals makes the Chicago Fire Department look like The Avengers

Со стороны выглядет что приехали на пикник. Спокойно ходят любуются. Видно что работу эту любят, но горит не свое.

my thoughts exactly exposure protection was not a priority and if they had concentrated on the exsposure it could have and should have been stopped everything else was gone

In another article, they blame the loss on response times and a lack of a fire station in the area...While response time may have played a roll in the loss of 3 structures, knowing your district and pre planning plays a bigger part. I see in the comments that they have a fire boat but the boat was not used in this fire, at least not shown.….There is plenty of water surrounding the entire area... put it to use and know how to get it out of the lake, pond, river, etc.... where ever it may be. Know how to do tanker shuttles, if that's what it takes. I don't like to play armchair quarterback here but this fire should be reviewed and learn from it....don't blame the entire loss on budget cuts. There was a lack of knowledge on how to use the water they had and prevent further loss. And for gods sake... get some dam water on the propane tanks !

@rebelyank6361

5 жыл бұрын

As I see it they had reports of multiple structures and heavy black smoke visible, jump to a 2nd or 3rd alarm then, don't wait to actually see the ohhhh shit moment upon arrival. Srcond firefighters should be suited and packed before thentruck stops so they can grab a line and go, first water flowing within a minute of the wheels stopping. Set up a feck gun or Blitzfire between 1st & 2nd structures to save 1st. Hand line to the 2nd floor of 1st structure to keep the fire out of the interior. Fireboat opens up on 2nd house from several hundred feet away if necessary and drown it.

@joediffy

5 жыл бұрын

The first 2 houses were already burning when they got there but they let the green house burn! They started hosing water on the side of the house that was not on fire? they were going in circles like they had no clue what to do!

At least one house could have been saved if the fire department had done their job properly. This fire department is absolutely incompetent !

Wow!!! I guess by reading through the comments that everything I wanted to say has already been said in spades. "That green house if pretty." "Yeah it is, bet it burns really pretty, too." Keystone cops meet burning buildings. Film at 11.

I’m no where near a firefighter but that was just sad and pathetic! What were they waiting for? Rain?! My garden house would’ve worked better! If I owned that green house, I would’ve sued them! No reason it should’ve burned other surface damage on the right side from the heat!

Man I've never seen such lazy firefighters in my life, that dude on the 21/2 , where that nozzle laid on the ground, he acted like he couldn't move it to a better location to hit the fire better, and the thing is he had 20' of hose behind him just sitting there. Lazy man

I know it's a little late, but... At the beginning of the video, the first house is already on the ground. The second one is around 85 percent involved. The third one looks like it's barely touched, but that's because of the camera angle. The second house started burning from the rear. Therefore, the 3rd house is probably well involved on the right rear where we can't see. I seriously doubt that it could have been saved, but it's always worth a try.