I love Garys Idea on how to have 8-10 tournaments that all tours play on courses all over the world, and then have 2-3 other tours they all go back to and everyone collecting would golf points !!

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

it's a great idea for sure and would be great! thansk Shane

@dovejones5598

5 ай бұрын

Except that was Norman’s original idea that Finchem rejected - to have 8 tournaments the best played on to get Seve to the states more (4 in us , 4 global as to not impact key events) - in order to qualify for those events you had to Maintain status on your own tour - he wasn’t trying to eliminate the European tour - The new overall money in golf is global not US centric - why Nike made much more $$$ in Asia Tired of hearing players say they can’t play every week making millions - please tell that to a truck driver, surgeon, military personnel - or pretty much everyone else that works And please stop saying ‘golf’ or the ‘game’ is in chaos - the game of golf is just fine - the professional game has issues the biggest one is that people are discovering they’d rather play themselves than watch commercials with some millionaires hitting shots occasionally -

@LegolasFan69

5 ай бұрын

I’d rather see qualifying events than points… too political and not straight forward enough

@Kevin-l4

5 ай бұрын

​@kostismccord what about 4 . One a month jan-aug to compliment majors as start . If you go 8-10 your going all year round and southern hemisphere.

@shanewilliams1216

5 ай бұрын

@@Kevin-l4 I truly dont care what they do as long as they ALL get on the same page for the game of GOLF, times change and now is time to develop a true worldwide tour, not just the USA PGA monopoly !! Make major events all over the world start NEW traditions of the game ! I have not wanted the PGA in over 5 years , or the majors, have become boring and the guys play slow as hell! and ALL the great names are now on LIV and the PGA looks like a triple A ball team now , I actually turned on Wase management tournament and only knew one guys name on the leader board. Ill keep watching the LPGA they get that its ALL ENTERTAIMENT and its US that pay their bills, where the PGA have forgotten!!!!

The World Tour is the way to go. The Masters will set up how the qualifying looks. Everyone else will follow.

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

thanks George

Thank Goodness I was getting the shakes 😢waiting for a new Kostis and McCord 😊⛳️😇😉

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

LOL!! Thanks Robert

Great insight and opinions, really good. My two cents from overseas - tournaments called Waste Management - really - I thought they wanted have legacy - Colonial, Greensboro.....lastly I have watched the LIV golf (free on KZread in Scotland) on my TV and now really enjoy the 54 holes shotgun start with lots of golf shown, also the team element has started to make a difference - with all 4 players counting on last day the team result shifts all the way to the end. I like the Dp World and PGA coverage when I need a wee nap!!

@robertschissler1236

5 ай бұрын

lol I was stationed at Thurso 1969 and 70 loved the people and made lots of friends. Unfortunately I didn’t play golf yet 😢

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

thank you for sharing your thoughts!

I wish you were closer to me. Mr. Kostis makes more sense than any teacher I have had from 1984-1999. Love your opinions. They make sense so we know the Tour would never listen. I call the tour Pitch and Putt golf, errant drives don't seem to cost you much in strokes as they should.

I love you guys, you get right to the point and talk about exactly what is going down. I have always felt that if the PGA keeps refusing to work with LIV, LIV would keep taking the PGA's best players away. PGA better find a way for the tours to work together or they are SUNK. Personally, I don't watch the PGA anymore. LIV is so fun to watch, and has most of the best players, why watch anything else?

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

appreciate your comments Ray...we just want the best players playing against each other!

@raybowles8587

5 ай бұрын

@@kostismccord Me too! I think players don't want to win a major knowing they didn't beat the best players. Takes away from their achievement.

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

@@raybowles8587 totally agree Ray...hopefully we'll get it fixed soon!

While I appreciate hearing the inside scoop on combining the golf tours, I was happy to hear you getting back to anecdotes and golf tips until there’s an actual agreement on the new setup. Thanks, fellas!

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

appreciate the comment...lots of great stories coming up soon thanks

Great to hear from you guys again👍. Azlan from Malaysia 🇲🇾.

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

great to hear from you in Malaysia!! Appreciate it

@azlan226

5 ай бұрын

@@kostismccord as a self-confessed golf junkie, Ive been following Peter & Gary on the commentary for so many years. They were the best on CBS👍

Great point Peter. The pga players are criticizing the Liv players for playing for money when the pga is infusing a group to provide more money for their players. So they are also playing for more money. It’s become more of that instead of playing for the trophy or legacy, except for the majors. If the pga doesn’t do this, then their players will leave the tour for Liv and MORE MONEY. He’s right, they should have re teed and worked it out with PIF, one partner and made it work. SSG will have a new, different agenda and complicate the whole issue and open up cans of worms. Keep hitting your ball out of the woods.

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

thanks for commenting...we appreciate it!

Not sure I want to tell my buddies about Kostis lessons I might lose money. Oh ok I’ll just learn to play better 😝. If McCord ever comes thru KC and his caddy still has clubs for sale tell him to give me a shout. Really enjoyed talking to Gary when he played the senior tour

Great show!

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Robert!

Didn’t understand it, but was entertaining. You tree are the best. Regards, Richard Bullard (80 yrs very old, bad heart, bad back, bad knees…use a walker, etc.🥴). Class A golf pro (1965) Greenville SC Greenville County Club asst pro under Dutch Hood ( formerly at Winged foot NY)

@kostismccord

2 ай бұрын

all the best Richard!!

Let's discuss the $18 beers at PGA Champ.

I watched Liv today. I wanted to be there. It was great seeing all the great players.

The moment the PGA cancelled the tournament at Trump’s course was the last time I ever watched a PGA event. F the PGA!

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

appreciate your comments

@readJames48

5 ай бұрын

Agreed...same with me with AT&T-Pebble Beach when Cypress Point was forced to bring certain kinds of people on its membership...Cypress Point CC said FU to the PGA

PIF are long term investors...US PE firms are not

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

thanks for your comments

@LegolasFan69

5 ай бұрын

Exactly. SSG is just brokering the sale

Streaming is the future-Global

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

looks like it for sure thanks Paul

Peter Kostis and Gary McCord for PGA Tour Co-Commissioners!

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

haha it would be VERY entertaining AND make a lot of sense...thanks Michael

Throughout all these discussions about PIF, SSG, World Tour, PGA schedule changes, nobody has explained how a sustainable business model is being developed to support bigger prize funds, private jets etc. PGA Tour sponsors balk at the costs, others walk away, PIF have throw billions at an unsustainable model in a niche sport with low TV viewing audiences. The only way for this to work is ‘growing the game’ and I have seen precious little details on that. There is a day of reckoning coming for the men’s sport……

I love Peters comment that it used to be players of high moral standards- so where does tiger fit on that list.

The PGA tour will not survive thanks to Monahan. Great analogy by Peter about going back to the tee or shooting a 16.

How long do you guys think before the TV bosses are cornered by the shareholders because their station is not broadcasting golf tournaments with stronger fields and more influential golfers (the needle-movers on LIV) which will give more value to their Advertisers....?

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

Think it's happening already! Thanks for the thoughts!

All I can say is I dearly miss the Kostis swing analysis and the McCord humor and insights into the game -- love to hear your golf voices. You guys were the best. I don't give a damn about LIV Golf and their Mickey Mouse format -- this is and always will be an individual game of guts and will. Look at the the players that left--pretty much all d'bags and I don't miss any of them. LIV Golf has no feeder tour, no place to pull players from other than the PGA TOUR--and that's about to come to a halt. Eventually Phil and the old players will be gone and the talent will saturate--LIV will die on the vine. The PGA needs to be strong and not let those defectors back -- don't need them to succeed.

What would be the downside/negatives to a franchise system for tournaments? I'm picturing free agents who've honed their skills earning the privilege of playing in the events that they choose. If there's no market for that, then so be it. If golf-loving investors see it as a risk worth taking, then let them compete for viewership. Or, if some folks are just so crazy rich - for whatever reason (Saudi oil, for example) and choose to be patrons for golfing "artists", then, why not? Fans also get to vote with their feet and dollars. Sounds like the TV/cable/streaming bidness is getting right interesting these days. Way over my head. My sense is that the Monahan types who revel in "controlling", practically *owning*, these hard working, risk taking, talented golfers are now about to get what they deserve. Just watched a nice Rahm interview. Says he'd love to continue to enter and play in PGA Tour events. Has Monahan considered simply allowing that to happen? Does LIV control what their players can do during their off weeks? Gary and Peter will get it figured out. 🙂

Can't believe Monahan is still hanging on. He should have been long gone. Guess he's not going to fire himself. What a racket.

Tired of a liar named Jay Monahan. I haven't watched anything on the PGA tour since this started. I did watch the LIV tournament in Mexico. Excellent golf! And there was a 19 year old closing his round with 5 birdies. Another potential source for PIF recruitment. ALl players should play in ANY event. If I were PIF I'd recruit the top players in Asia, India, Europe and pick up 12 "name" PGA players each year. Then I'd tell the PGA to stick it. McCord sounds like the old old man trying to hold on to the system.

@1362pc

5 ай бұрын

LIV is a different format for younger market...both tours can succeed, but must be an elite global tour..say 10 big events plus majors

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

McCord says he's 100...lol, he acts like he's 18!! thanks for your comments Chris!

@robertschissler1236

5 ай бұрын

He means well 😊

LIV should do 4 days and cut 2 teams , wgpoints herere we come!

WHY is SSG investing billions in a watered down PGA tour , unless they know all the best players on LIV will play on signature events.

it’s a ploy. PGA basically sells to SSG for 1.5 billion. They give that money to the players that remained LOYAL. Then they sell to the PIF for 3 billion and SSG just doubled their money.

@robertschissler1236

5 ай бұрын

I don’t think they are that smart

Golfers have been playing for money for a very long time...otherwise they all would have remained amateurs playing for the love of the game!

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

totally agree thanks

I dont get it. SSG gives PGA $1.5B, then PGA turns around and gives the players $1.5B. So what is SSG getting for their $1.5B???? How are they going to get a return on their money when the PGA tour loses money each year?

If either side was smart, they'd hire these guys for their telecasts. Both PGAT and LIV are not good products anymore. Peter and Gary would make one of them worth watching.

@robertschissler1236

5 ай бұрын

LIV guys and gals are great already

The whole grow the game is bs. If you want growth, offer free beginner lessons and trial rounds. Most courses I play it's already hard to get out and lay. Just throwing more money at the top pros is not a real solution. My opinion it's just a way to increase the purses.

10 global events plus 4 majors....thats just for starters

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

would be fantastic to watch! thanks Paul

Let’s be real, Jay Monahan’s leave of absence was 1000% fake. He’s a coward that can’t be allowed to run the tour

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

appreciate all the comments!! thank you!

SSG buys PGAT for 1 billion, hamstrings moneyhan and then sells to PIF for 2 billion, easy peazy lemon squeezy

@robertschissler1236

5 ай бұрын

English dishwashing liquid from many years ago

Is it just me or does Kostis come across as being bitter about the PGA tour?

@robertschissler1236

5 ай бұрын

He just wants them to work with LIV not keep trying to damage it

I hope someone can come up with a format for television that would decrease the amount of commercials. It’s becoming unwatchable, unless you record it and fast forward. Formula One and World Cup football have somehow managed to do that successfully. The “playing through” thing is a joke.

@robertschissler1236

5 ай бұрын

It’s LIV plus app

N2v2r Scottie Schefler. Never,

Cannot have the players making business strategy..they are golfers

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

appreciate your thoughts

Its a tiger take over...

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

thanks for the comment Paul...we'll see

Take this for what it's worth, which is not much. Every acronym is an abbreviation, not every abbreviation is an acronym. An acronym is a pronouncable word, such as, PIF. PGA in not pronouncable. SCUBA is another example of an acronym. Who cares is a legitimate question.

PGAT is crooked

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

not sure of that but thanks for sharing your thoughts!

The money SSG gave to the Tour players is nothing more than a tax write off . Top it off the Top 36 players end up with about 70% of the money doled out by SSG. The rest of the players get the scraps. The folks in the Senate who don’t like the Saudis for some reason Love the Ukraine.

Golf should’ve skipped the Netflix thing. Only further revealed what privileged, thin-skinned babies these players really are.

John Rahm didn’t make the PGA the PGA MAde John Rahm

@adrianbelcourt9640

5 ай бұрын

And that Ladies and Gentlemen is exactly why the PGA is toxic and has lost their way!! I watch RAHM NOT THE PGA..

I don’t want Saudi’s running USA golf!

@1362pc

5 ай бұрын

They don't want to....global tour is the future.....I don't want the PGAT to have a monopoly over all the best players..events only played in US...boooo

@1362pc

5 ай бұрын

They don't want to....global tour is the future.....I don't want the PGAT to have a monopoly over all the best players..events only played in US...boooo

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

we just want the best players going up against each other! thanks Jim

@robertschissler1236

5 ай бұрын

Is it ok if they keep letting our military jets use their bases as a veteran I appreciate all of our allies

We want to watch golf is correct. Leave Saudi alone, govt will shut them down if we just ask. I don’t miss guys that went to LIV

@LegolasFan69

5 ай бұрын

Half of the best players left bc they were strong armed by pga tour corporate thugs

@industrialpalletworx3548

5 ай бұрын

​@LegolasFan69 that's factually inaccurate. They left for money and tried to dance around it. Plain and simple.

@1362pc

5 ай бұрын

Thats the US way...be crooked and shut down any foreign competition

@industrialpalletworx3548

5 ай бұрын

@pauljcross2289 no. Did the PGA Tour do that with the old European Tour? I remember the animosity towards each other back in the day. The best European players primarily played the European Tour. Look at Colin Montgomery winning the order of Merit like 9 years in a row. Sam Torrance was another. Seve Ballesteros. This is nothing new, same song different musicians.

@kostismccord

5 ай бұрын

thanks for everyone's comments...keep em coming! we appreciate it!