The absolute best RC plane channel on KZread.

Nicely done guys! Applause to HH for bringing this bird back. It has become the best civilian plane to fly in my collection.

Nice video guys.... love the flat spin.

Great job Jon. Your an amazing pilot. Just to note, Horizon is now attaching an addendum sheet for the new cg at about 53mm, and that is where is balance my battery. It flies like a dream. Thanks for sharing.

@TwoBrosRC

2 жыл бұрын

That's what mine said too - but I wanted to test out moving the CG further back to see how that helped or hindered flight performance. Thanks man!

3:37- “representation of what the real one flys like” -Proceeds to fly it inverted

Love. This plan, it is one of the best prop plane out there.

Subscribed! Thank you for the education guys - I like the idea showing the transmitter moves vs the actual plane - great idea for some of us to learn.

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

Good to have you onboard! We've largely stopped doing that lately - it's only something we'll be doing for tutorial videos going forward.

Nice Jon! Man now I can’t decide if I want this or the Turbo Timber Evo for Oshkosh lol! Thanks! Great video! You do some crazy things with that SR22!

@TwoBrosRC

2 жыл бұрын

The answer is "it depends on what you want to do" - 3D maneuvers will be more possible on the Turbo Evo. Scale with limited 3D will be possible on the Cirrus.

@KB_RC

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC Yes… mainly just want something for Oshkosh but either one would be perfect!!! Won’t be doing much 3D flying there. If I get the Evo it will be for STOL flying. Actually, yeah I’m sticking with the Evo! I want a float plane again finally! Lol.

I was in Durham and Cary yesterday! I definitely have to stop by Hangar 18 the next time I'm there. I'm currently awaiting my order from HH that includes the Cirrus SR22T; probably the reason KZread populated my feed with your vid! Gotta luv those algorithms lol. Love the channel🙏🏾

@TwoBrosRC

5 ай бұрын

Thanks man! Our format has changed significantly since this video posted. Tony doesn't really fly with us anymore (too busy with work/pilot training) so Jon's wife does the filming these days, along with a fellow named Ciarán that we met on RC Groups. We focus almost exclusively on voiceover content now, which makes it a lot easier to focus on flying and make fewer mistakes.

@suckafish2k9

5 ай бұрын

@TwoBrosRC I think I've been a subscriber for about a month or so and I've noticed that. And funny you mentioned Tony bc I literally caught myself saying, "the guy has some nice moves!" Was the first time seeing someone other than yourself fly on your channel:)). I only hope to get as good as you guys. Hopefully my Timber Evo and Cirrus will help get me there😎👌🏾

@TwoBrosRC

5 ай бұрын

We went through five Timbers before getting to this point. You'll get there. Keep at it and practice - you'll pick it up.

@suckafish2k9

5 ай бұрын

@TwoBrosRC I'm currently in the middle of repairing mine! 🤣 Just waiting for that 800kv motor to come in. B/t going thru a Habu STS and an SS, ik all about dropping aircrafts to get better! Lol. Just another learning moment!

Go up higher than normal into a hammer head. AS you start the turn, hit reverse. 3/4 to full throttle full ailerons. 2 or so spins get OUT of reverse. It feels strange, but looks really cool! Granted, its coolER on the ultimate 3d bipe! 😁

Yeah your flaps are set alittle extreme Jon if your buddy there had a little more throttle he woulda landed just fine otherwise. and Thanks So much for always showing your hands on the sticks while your making manuvers and stunts, that helps a whole bunch on helping people learn faster....its a challenging hobby and thats why i love it so much

Hi Jon, on my NX8 I can’t find the Audio event for Forward Trust & Reverse Trust. Is that because you have a Specktum IE 20? Also how do you delete a Audio event on a switch? Thank in advance Jon! 👍

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

IX radios use Android text to speech for callouts - you'd have to find a pre-made macro in the audio events section of your radio to get something similar. The manual should have the info regarding removing events.

Did you move the ESC? My plane rolls right when you balance the tail and nose cone. I had to trim it left. Thinking of moving the ESC or taping a coin on the left wing.

@TwoBrosRC

2 жыл бұрын

Nope, no movement was made.

@LoveRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC it’s bizarre that it is unbalanced.

Hi I hope you can help me the rudder rate and steering it’s to low for me I did the setup by the book it’s that normal ?. I believe you have more control as I can see any tips ? Elevator aileron are ok

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

You might have to unlock the receiver and reprogram it - that way you can get 150% travel. Our Cirrus was modified with new servos before we flew it. The info is in this vid: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lauHlaaqnZe8mrQ.html

I've found that the Cirrus actually does excellent knife edge spins if you use full left rudder instead of right rudder, as well as full forward elevator and full left aileron. I've only done this with the recommended CG, I haven't tried it with the CG further back

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

Wonder why that would be the case. We'll have to remember to try it the next time we take it up.

@flyingfools47

Жыл бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC My rudder throws aren't nearly as high as yours, so if it doesn't work with your throws I would experiment with using smaller left rudder inputs. I also use full power during the KE spin forgot to mention that

Just got mine all set up and bound to my NX6. Everyrhing works perfect on it except the rudder/front wheel only gives very minimal throw. The plane won't even turn on the ground with full rudder. The nose gear is connected properly and turns the servo and the rudder all the way in both directions but will not turn with full rudder applied on TX. Anyone have any ideas?

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

Check your rates and make sure the servo is moving fully. If it isn't, replace the servo.

Hi did you upgrade the servos on this? Do you a recommend metal servo for this

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

tinyurl.com/B11DLS servos are what we used. The maiden vid covered the setup info.

Would you recommend this as an option for a first low wing? I started flying 6 months ago with a Maule and i`m now looking at my next plane as im starting to do basic Aero moves. I like the looks of this one.

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

It's definitely docile enough to be a great low wing experience for your first foray into it. Definitely comes highly recommended! Just be careful to make sure the wings are level when you bring it in to land so you don't scrape up the wingtips. If you do, you can patch over any scrapes using white electrical tape - which itself works as fantastic foam armor. You can pick one up via bit.ly/3AouT9Z if you'd like to support us.

@MrDOZA28

Жыл бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC Excellent. 👍 Thanks for the tip on the landings 👌

Excellent camera job! What model of camcorder do you use? I think your channel is undervalued, you have high quality content!

@TwoBrosRC

2 жыл бұрын

This was shot using an iPhone 13 Pro. Thanks!

@ 14:00 time he mentioned turbo timber evo elevator came loose and crashed just same thing happen to me.

Mine just shipped on Thursday

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

📦

Man im torn between the eflite rv7 and cirrus. Both your reviews of them made them look like alot of fun to fly. After flying them both, which would you have when it comes to fun factor?

@TwoBrosRC

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, I wouldn't mind having another RV-7 just to make it reverse hover again. That trick was friggin' congress, man. Loved it. The Cirrus is more graceful and honestly more enjoyable to fly and land, and the KE spins it does are way more interesting. It really just comes down to personal preference. I'd stick with the Cirrus if I had to choose.

Inverted flat spins are cool to do with this plane...just be aware that sometimes it doesn't come out of it...unless you chop the throttle.

Enjoyed the honest review and will consider purchasing it if it goes on sell. The question I have is would this be in the top 10 planes you would want to fly? ( Be Honest )👍👍

@TwoBrosRC

2 жыл бұрын

Top 10 of every airplane out there? Definitely not - there's a lot of things I want to fly and this one doesn't top the list of the top 10 I'd like to fly most. That isn't to say that I don't enjoy it - I rather do, actually.

@tughillrc6327

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC Thanks, I own 60 planes already not sure I want to add this to my hanger

Awsum

Good flight demo. I dunno, $300 seems steep for an efficient cross country cruiser. I guess 1.5m is a little bigger than some, which adds some value. Usually XC cruisers have some wing reflex to reduce the negative lift requirement from the elevator, that way they can make the elevator a little smaller. I’m guessing horizon missed that subtle airfoil detail, so the elevator would become too small for the wing area. You might be able to put some reflex back into the airfoil if the flaps and ailerons will all deflect up a degree or two. Basically, adding a smidge of reflex is going to make the plane a little more “flying wing” and a little less tail config. It’ll probable help your knife edge instability since the wing itself, rather than the tail, will help control the lift pitch moment.

@TwoBrosRC

2 жыл бұрын

I have it set up for crow so I can adjust how much the ailerons pitch up at any point. That's an interesting idea.

@FFE-js2zp

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC You could make it adjustable, or I was thinking you could hardwire it. It would be less risky to make it switchable/adjustable. It looks like the flaps are hinged like fowlers on a single channel, but can you deflect them up at all with negative subtrim or by adjusting pushrod length or clevis/ball joint position? It wouldn’t take much. Maybe 2 degrees.

@FFE-js2zp

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC Missing airfoil reflex also explains why Tony ran out of elevator authority in the flare endgame. Basically, both the horizontal stab and elevator are close to scale, which becomes too small for a less aerodynamically sophisticated model’s wing, so it relies a little too much on airspeed to counter the natural pitch-down moment of a cambered wing. You can see the airplane pivots around the lateral axis too easily, basically all the time. That also squares with it wanting to pitch forward in a slow knife edge and backward in a fast knife edge. It’s just a minor design flaw with Horizon not understanding that these high speed civil XC cruisers are set up like a hybrid Flying Wing/Tail Config airplane to reduce tail size, tail weight, tail negative lift, and elevator induced drag, too squeeze out knots.

@TwoBrosRC

2 жыл бұрын

@@FFE-js2zp That's absolutely fascinating. I'll have to remember that for the next flight. Thanks man!

I have the version that has blue cabin color. Is it the same aircraft?

@TwoBrosRC

10 ай бұрын

It's basically the same.

Hello brothers. Did you try to fly with New Kavan Bristell B23 ? Similar plane and size. Honestly, what are the low points of this Cirrus ? And the higher ones ? JPh. France

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

We've never flown that model - but the low point of this model is that it can be tricky to land well, but is otherwise well built and looks fantastic and flies the part too.

@JPh35

Жыл бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC hello brothers. >> Tricky to Land? Usually, with good rate of flaps it is easy and help to Land, no? Flaps are on inter 3 positions or knub button ? Knub is top cause you can choice your own level of activation, appropriate with conditions of wind and speed plane. For taking off and landing phases. What about the assembly of wings on the field? Screw is necessary, correct? That could be a Bad point. Thks for your reading. JPh (France)

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

@@JPh35 We said "tricky to land well", not "tricky to land" - the difference being that gentle landings can be tricky. Wing assembly is not difficult at all.

Sir. I very much enjoyed your video on this SR22. Mine just arrived, and I am wanting to emulate your servo swap; however, I cannot find a metal gear servo anywhere that will work for the rudder/nose gear. No one has a sub micro with a dual control horn. I did update and reset the AR637TA to open stock, so I should be able to use any suitable metal sub micro, preferably in 13 gram. Thanks for any help you can offer! Dale

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

We use tinyurl.com/B11DLS servos. Check our maiden review for the info on installing them.

@dalezesiger9873

Жыл бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC Thank you for the reply. I have been trying to find the maiden review...guess I'm too dumb to find it!

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

@@dalezesiger9873 kzread.info/dash/bejne/lauHlaaqnZe8mrQ.html

@dalezesiger9873

Жыл бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC Yeah, I have that video. It is the one I have been watching. Guess I got the impression there was another one that shows what servos you installed (and how)... I checked the link you sent me, and I am a little confused because those servos are micro, not sub micro. I made that mistake before and could not get them to fit. So sorry for the trouble, but I was really impressed with your setup. Thanks!

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

@@dalezesiger9873 the servos we linked will fit after sanding them down slightly to fit into the pockets they're meant for. It takes a few moments.

I have 0 complaints with mine.

@TwoBrosRC

2 жыл бұрын

Not many here either.

@mattcook5302

2 жыл бұрын

Other than the servos, even that didn't really bother me.

What transmitter are you using?

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

IX20SE

Hi, I'm Angelo.. Can you show me how calculate the center of gravity, And how to mark the exact points on the wings?

@TwoBrosRC

11 ай бұрын

Google "RC plane center of gravity" and you'll have the info you need.

If you had to pick one plane. Sr22t , Commander or Turbo timber evo?

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

We fortunately don't have to pick, but it would be the Timber because there's more aero and 3D possibilities with it.

@anthonypkaiser

Жыл бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC thank you and I enjoy your reviews.

Is it faster than the evo timber

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely.

A wing will drop in a stall, if the stall is not coordinated(correct rudder input) that’s how it’s taught and performed in full scale. If you apply the correct rudder(coordinated) the wing will not drop in a stall. It will stall straight ahead.

@TwoBrosRC

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not 100% sold on that given the tendency of foam aircraft to fly similar but distinct from their full scale counterparts.

@memcrew1

2 жыл бұрын

@@TwoBrosRC that would be a good experiment, besides the physics of aerodynamics wouldn’t change.

By the way you use your radio, I guess you change gimbals a lot¡¡¡ LOL

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

Uhh, nope. We're still on the same set after nearly two years of constant use.

Why the gloves? Just curious..

@TwoBrosRC

Жыл бұрын

Keeps my sweaty hands from slipping off the transmitter in the summer heat.

I'm sorry my friend, but I can't find anything satisfying

@TwoBrosRC

11 ай бұрын

Sorry to hear that.