The singapore grey M5 is mine, with me driving it. It is original except KW Loweringkit and new rear mufflers. On this same day, a tuned M5 F10 in blue also raced. It has BMS ECU, straight pipes and AFE Airsystem. When it raced against the Ferrari it won by A LOT! I also raced against the blue M5, so you guys who think you know about my car, this and that. Just wait until Gustav Traff release the video were the tuned M5, beats my original. Got damn how I loosed against that. For information there were several other cars with less horsepower, that won against the FF.

@emhidi

9 жыл бұрын

Dude , give time to people to accept that a ferrari lost against a bmw sport sedan . Trust me , it's a very hard concept to believe and to accept . " A Bmw sedan faster than a top end luxury high performance car ?? Naaa they cheat , something's wrong ..." Give time :) , and great M5 by the way .

@vincentas

9 жыл бұрын

***** it has a limiter, so i doubt its tuned. M5/M6 is crazy in 100-300 200-300km/h territorry and ferrari is handicaped by awd in those speeds so i wouldnt be surprised that BMW puts more power on the wheels in those speeds

@twofiftyseven5365

9 жыл бұрын

vincentas I don't care how much power it puts on the wheels, a stock M5 could never even keep up with a Ferrari FF let alone beat it. If you really think that a much heavier bmw with much less hp can beat a lighter and more powerful Ferrari FF then you need to go back to physics class. A car with better power to weight ratio always wins, so the FF should've definitely won if the M5 was really fully stock. This video is obviously a pathetic fake.

@vincentas

9 жыл бұрын

Well if you are into cars you know that thats not true (e.g. Nissan GTR), traction, gearing, engine, aerodynamics have alot to do with high speed acceleration, you should know that. This drag race is suspicious, but since you dont have any 100-300 100-200 numbers from these cars to back it up, you cant say that this is 100% fake. And how can you say that you dont care how much power it puts on the wheels and then talk about physics of power/weight ratio?

@vincentas

9 жыл бұрын

plus there maybe just something wrong with that FF

As a BMW Fan ,I must say , that M5 is incredible. Kudos for the FF for keeping up :D

The BMW M5 is not tuned. It is lowered and Schmiedemann exhaust. Top speed limiter in place. Ferrari FF was having its stability control completely disabled and sport button pressed. We also races tuned BMW M5 Monte Carlo Blue BMW M5 F10 vs this stock Singapore Gray BMW M5 F10 and also Monte Carlo Blue BMW M5 tuned vs Ferrari FF. Stay tuned.

@MrMegacurie

9 жыл бұрын

So a even more tuned M5 will race this tuned M5.

@gtboard

9 жыл бұрын

MrMegacurie Correct.

@pascalmpower7944

9 жыл бұрын

The M5 F10 is so fast! Doesn't need any tune

@pascalmpower7944

9 жыл бұрын

15hp more.

@karpov3265

9 жыл бұрын

GTBOARD.com M5 was very impressive!

Good comment from facebook.com/GTBOARD KZreadrs please study! "It's a rolling start so Ferrari's traction advantage is neglectable. Also, the torque figure of the BMW is nearly identical to the FF. In typical Italian fashion, the weight that Ferrari given is completely dry, which with fluids and driver would be more than 150kg extra. The FF also have 3 people onboard and M5 only has two, which would also affect the weight of the vehicles. Having an extra person would have a quite noticeable dent in performance, even if you're driving a 2 ton SUV. M5s are underated from the factory, so in stock form it would be pushing more than the claim horsepower figures, with an exhaust, it could easily be pushing near 600hp. The 4WD FF also suffers from more drivetrain powerloss compare to M5. And at last, the higher top speed of the FF means the car is longer geared which reduces the acceleration of the car. Acceleration is highly dependent on the chosen gearbox ratios, which is why race cars don't have Veyron beating topspeed, also explains why rally cars accelerates so fast. Figures only tell you one side of the story, not how it will actually perform"

@gtboard

9 жыл бұрын

People please read :)

@TheTreadLife_

9 жыл бұрын

I found it odd that nobody (in the comments) is even thinking about gear ratios. They're all just screaming WEIGHT/HP/TORQUE/0-60. Gear ratios is a very real thing. I could make a ford fiesta do a faster 0-60 and even a faster 0-100 than EITHER of these cars with a proper gear ratio. You can't just read a couple number and expect one car to dominate another.

@gtboard

9 жыл бұрын

Donald Walker Exactly!

@dawid3764755

9 жыл бұрын

Donald Walker Both cars reach about 100km/h at redline on second gear(BMW 7000rpm, Ferrari 8000rpm) which mean that Ferrari has shorter gear ratio so has more torque on wheels. Am i right?

@ozayozgur8666

9 жыл бұрын

R

Having owned the F10 M5 now for 2 years, I can tell you the car is sickeningly fast for a 4-door saloon. I honestly was not expecting this against an FF what seems to have been driven well... Even if the FF was going to win, it looks like it would be by very little. A simple tune on the M5 and delimited means its a serious contender. The uncut footage helps too. WOW.

Funny how people still say the M5 is tuned, here are my few reasons of why the M5 could keep up. It's a rolling start so Ferrari's traction advantage is neglectable. Also, the torque figure of the BMW is nearly identical to the FF. In typical Italian fashion, the weight that Ferrari given is completely dry, which with fluids and driver would be more than 150kg extra. The FF also have 3 people onboard and M5 only has two, which would also affect the weight of the vehicles. Having an extra person would have a quite noticeable dent in performance, even if you're driving a 2 ton SUV. M5s are underated from the factory, so in stock form it would be pushing more than the claim horsepower figures, with an exhaust, it could easily be pushing near 600hp. The 4WD FF also suffers from more drivetrain powerloss compare to M5. And at last, the higher top speed of the FF means the car is longer geared which reduces the acceleration of the car. Acceleration is highly dependent on the chosen gearbox ratios, which is why race cars don't have Veyron beating topspeed, also explains why rally cars accelerates so fast. Figures only tell you one side of the story, not how it will actually perform.

@CarToneHK

9 жыл бұрын

On a side note, Ferrari always have a team to tuned their press cars for magazine published figures, they've done that for years. Chris Harris tried to tell the world about it but ended up being banned to drive press Ferrari for a few years.

@stefanvitali7616

9 жыл бұрын

k screw off mtco316, stupid youtube name but anyways, the m5 has 100hp less and its heavier then the ff, and the ff has a greater top speed with a quicker time in the 0 to 60mph, the m5 is 100% fixed up a little bit, that is all

@CarToneHK

9 жыл бұрын

Stefan Vitali LOL, great insult there, you uneducated fuck. Anyway, Torque is the pulling force of the car and horsepower is basically the number of revs x the torque. FF has a higher top speed because of higher horsepower and longer gearing. The FF also will be quicker from 0-60mph because of its 4WD advantage. Ferrari plays the number game really well, just like Nissan did with the GTR. However, the M5 torque powerband is alot wider than the FF and because of lower top speed (shorter gears), the acceleration in each gear is higher as the torque of the vehicle is multiplied by a bigger number, hence more torque going to the wheels and faster acceleration. Acceleration is always dependent on torque, not horsepower. The FF is not much lighter in this case, as Ferrari always post a dry weight in their figures and if you have driven a car before, you'd notice how the weight of the extra person affects handling. You should study before insulting a person, shows how much of an uneducated imbecile you are. Don't get me wrong though, I'd pick the FF anyday of the week because personally I prefer the smoothness of a V12. Stop looking at numbers and start experiencing the cars. Also might be good for you to start studying some basic physics.

@stefanvitali7616

9 жыл бұрын

and the m5 is all wheel drive as well

@CarToneHK

9 жыл бұрын

Stefan Vitali M5 is all wheel drive? WOW, what planet are you from? The only M models with all wheel drive are the X5 and X6M. Go and do some basic research, jeez.

One thing to solve mystery: the M5 had TWO people in the car the FF had THREE people in the car.

@gtboard

9 жыл бұрын

***** What is bullshit. Explain so anyone can understand your point.

@pascalmpower7944

9 жыл бұрын

GTBOARD.com That's an interesting comparison! Looking forward to see more M5 F10 vs others

@VirusTornado

9 жыл бұрын

GTBOARD.com What ***** meant is: Why didn't you include that information in the beginning of the video? From me: You said it in the description so it's fine lol

@gtboard

9 жыл бұрын

Oh thats great ;)

@peralozac2000

9 жыл бұрын

The real question is: What`s the weight of pasengers in M5, and in FF?

lol whats next...bmw beats koenigsegg one:1 by 2 seconds

@MrMegacurie

9 жыл бұрын

Stock BMW will do this :-)

@ToxopIasmosis

9 жыл бұрын

***** wtf i didnt even mention audi lol are you slow?

@Flyppy21

9 жыл бұрын

***** well actually did lol

I am a BMW M fan but it is hard for my to believe that the M5 is as fast as the FF. But I love it tho haha!

The M5 faster? Surely that can't be right! Was the FF driver half asleep? 😯

@twofiftyseven5365

9 жыл бұрын

***** The FF is not slow. The maker of this video is just lying about the real hp output of this bmw, which is clearly tuned.

So a few days ago i saw this FF beating 458 italia and 458 speciale and now this M5 beat him.... So your point is a BMW M5 V8 560hp faster than Ferrari FF 650hp and 458 speciale REALLY !!!!!!

You know what's strange? Either this "stock" F10 M5 is a factory freak or the FF is severely under performing. Club300plus videos show a stock FF pulling up top on a stock Ferrari 458 Italia and we know from GTBoard that a 458 Italia would pull on a stock F10 M5 all the way pretty easily and quickly. Put 2 and 2 together. I'm thinking the M5 is a factory freak with it's simply lowered with exhaust and downpipes and nicely tuned for 700 hp+.

@LILLO84

9 жыл бұрын

that is exactly my thought

@Forza4776

9 жыл бұрын

Yessss, most people don't know about that channel but if they look it up, they will understand this video isn't right

C'mon Gustav. Tell us how much horsepower does this M5 have. 😃

@alexanderfrisk1892

9 жыл бұрын

Stock, only lowered. :) Bmw power youknow.

@MrX1A4

9 жыл бұрын

lololo its F-10

@Zemjang

9 жыл бұрын

Alexander Frisk I love bmw, but this one can't be stock. ;-) FF have less weight and more power and the same torque.... Impossible beat it with stock M5....

@objectdrake

9 жыл бұрын

***** hahahhahahahhahahahahahahahahaahahahahahhhhhhahahahahahahaahahahhahaahahhahahahhahahhhhhahahhaahhahaahhaahahhahahahahahahahahahahaahhahaahahahhahhhhahahahahhaahahhahahahahahaah

@objectdrake

9 жыл бұрын

***** do you understand that theres a difference between technical data and the reality? or are you one of those who speaks with U.F.O. every day at 19.00? Hmm?

Gustav i'm one big fan of yours but claiming that M5 as stock it's pretty bad man honestly people isn't stupid

BMW M5 vs tuned M5 F10 (Burger Motorsports Stage 1, AFE intake, muffler delete)

The FF traps 127 mph in the 1/4 and we're expected to believe a lardmobile that traps 118mph is faster? Yeah right, most BMW's on GTBoard are tuned. Fool someone else.

The thing is, in another one of your videos, the 458 Italia dishes an easy win over the M6 coupe which is the same engine and power as an M5. I've also seen the FF beat the little 458 from a 60-300 race, as it should. So by that, this M5 would have to be pushing considerably more power than stock for a result like this..

@Vesuvio360

9 жыл бұрын

Even the f430 scuderia beats the f10 m5 in another one of your videos. Is the FF really that much slower?!

THIS M5 IS DEFINITLY NOT STOCK!

@emhidi

9 жыл бұрын

Stock my friend

@twofiftyseven5365

9 жыл бұрын

oezdal1 Of course it's NOT STOCK! Only complete fucking morons would think that this bmw is stock lol.

@weekendcollision2839

9 жыл бұрын

Ummmm... It's stock... You guys must have never driven or ridden in one...

Could you please clarify if this particular bmw f10 M5 has been tuned? The results seems pretty mind boggling !!!

@alexanderfrisk1892

9 жыл бұрын

Lowered and Exhaust, no tuning to engine.

@TheEryk03

9 жыл бұрын

***** Fuck off troll, everyone see it tuned, even it is lowered you dambfuck.

@twofiftyseven5365

9 жыл бұрын

D0D0BiirD Of course it's heavily tuned, no question about it. Think logically. There is absolutely no way that a much heavier bmw with much less hp could beat or even keep up with a Ferrari FF. The maker of this video is obviously just lying about the real hp output of this bmw, because he's a cheating bmw fanboy himself.

@shadowgoesfps

9 жыл бұрын

***** I'm apart of the BoS (Bimmers of Sweden). What I know that has been done to the M5 so far is suspension and another exhaust kit, nothing else. ECU/any other type of tuning has yet to be done. The M5 has a better transmission & torque while the Ferrari is AWD.

@shadowgoesfps

9 жыл бұрын

POWER!! I personally know the driver, he's the owner of Bimmers of Sweden. I've been in the car myself, only the suspension and exhaust has been changed. Nothing else has been done with it. He's laughing his ass off right now at all these comments saying how his car has 700HP.

so how 458 smokes the m5 and the ff gets beat, somthings seriously wrong

@250lmjohn

9 жыл бұрын

***** Thats not even close to being being true, it may be heavier than a 458 but it has nearly 100hp more and a lot more torque.

@Forza4776

9 жыл бұрын

***** you're dumb as fuck, that's all I have to say

@Alexxro91

9 жыл бұрын

first 458 is rear wheel drive, less power loss, second 458 is lighter, thirds 458 cant fit 3 people

@xflynskywlkr27

9 жыл бұрын

Alexxro91 except an ff is faster than a 458. This is proven just search 458 vs ff. This race defies physics.

@skadoldotri97

8 жыл бұрын

458 never even beat the E60 m5

if bmw stock, than this race breaks all rules of the physics ( NO MATTER IF THERE ARE 2 OR 3 PERSONS ! )

@pliaskamvilo3195

9 жыл бұрын

which is why it isn't stock.

@omedonnie

9 жыл бұрын

Pliaskam Vilo Exactly. This M5 is putting down at least 750hp crank! But I think it's PP-Performance with about 800hp.

@emhidi

9 жыл бұрын

Nothing uncomon here , the bmw have 610/630 hp , more peak torque and more larger torque powerband than the FF thanks to twinpower turbos . F10M5 wins because it's faster ^^ .

@BoosterB96

9 жыл бұрын

emhidi yes, faster every time wins ^^ but in the introduce gustav said that bmw has 560hp and we are talking about that, how gustav lieees to us.. hahah

@emhidi

9 жыл бұрын

Read the first comment on the video i explained that .

There's nothing wrong with the race. The weight of the cars is probably about the same with the extra person in the FF, plus the M5 is probably slightly underrated from the factory (I would guesstimate around 600hp at the crank), and the FF is probably overrated like most N/A cars (I would guesstimate around 600hp as well at the crank). And then AWD has about 5-10% more HP loss compared to RWD.

@twofiftyseven5365

9 жыл бұрын

Miker No naturally aspirated car is overrated, it's the other way around, turbo engined cars are overrated. Get your facts straight before posting such ignorant comments. You're clearly a bmw fanboy that's why you say such bullshit.

@Mikerlord

9 жыл бұрын

***** As I said, most new turbo engines are underrated. Take your M5 F10 to the dyno next time, and let me know the results.

@rextetron

9 жыл бұрын

Ok, a 458 italia beats an M6 in a GTBoard event: watch?v=qPW10LJIjoQ and an FF beats a 458 italia in a Race1000 event: /watch?v=4v145xcD9Tw Ppl still believe that this M5 was not tuned? :D

@Mikerlord

9 жыл бұрын

rextetron So? I beat a grey 458 speciale and got beaten by a yellow 458 speciale. Which one is tuned? Hint: neither, all cars are different

@rextetron

9 жыл бұрын

Miker The grey speciale was somehow not well, or had a wrong driving mode or something, as you can see from the videos - and the yellow was performing as it should. I assume you are talking about the ones which were included in a GTBoard event (published) a while ago? It should not be normal to have 50-100hp difference in cars that are the same model, not even with turbo Bimmers. How can you not suspect very strongly, that this guy had tuned his M5 even though he said he didn't? It just seems too obvious.

WOW, didn't expect that from the M5! Awesome.

For the people claiming the M5 isn't stock. I'm apart of the BoS (Bimmers of Sweden). What I know that has been done to the M5 so far is suspension and another exhaust kit, nothing else. ECU/any other type of tuning has yet to be done.

@shadowgoesfps

9 жыл бұрын

The M5's gearbox is unbeatable, and the M5 produces maximum torque at 1500-5500 RPM which is huge in a drag, to have a torque curve of such, compared to the NA Ferrari which gets its power somewhere in the midrange.

Guys!!! these F10 M5 are supposedly putting out 600bhp from factory and are posting great acceleration times. The GTR's are the same, similar power and weight but beat a lot of things that look better on paper. If the GTR's can do it and you love them, don't hate on the M5! With the extra transmission loss in FF 4wd the powers are similar.

@V8Supercar1

9 жыл бұрын

And don't forget the fact that BMW has a habit of underrating their HP numbers.

I'm skeptical on this one. I own a F10 M5 and it simply isn't all that fast. All of the respectable rags place the M5 about 2 seconds behind the FF at 120 and it gets worse from there. Two seconds is huge, so something is certainly amiss. Perhaps the Ferrari was running on just 9 cylinders that day...

The only reason why I think the M5 F10 was able to narrowly pass the Ferrari FF is because of its Hp and torque curve. The M5 F10 makes 500 pound feet of torque at only 1500 rpm, and holds the same amount of torque until about 5700 rpm in which all its horsepower (560 HP to be exact) begins to kick in. The M5 also has a slightly faster shifting transmission than the Ferrari FF, which could also give it a slight advantage. On the other hand, the Ferrari FF only begins making its maximum horsepower of 651 at about 8000 rpms which gives it a slight disadvantage against the M5 F10. On top of that, the FF only makes about 4 more pound feet of torque or less (depending on the year) than the M5, and it only starts making its peak torque at about 6000 RPM from which torque begins to drop almost immediately. The M5 is also running on a Twin Turbocharged 4.4L V8, whereas the FF is running on a N/A (Naturally Aspirated) 6.2 V12, which may also give the M5 a slight advantage in rolling races. Oh yeah, and did I mention that a BMW M5 F10 has a slightly more superior drag coefficient than the Ferrari FF? The M5 F10 has a Cd of .33 compared to the FFs .35 coefficient drag.

@astra9828

2 жыл бұрын

560 vs 660hp? There's videos online of an FF gapping a 458 italia which would thrash an F10 M5

@tidaltidaltidal

Жыл бұрын

@@astra9828 horsepower only doesn't determine whether you'll win or lose on a drag race. Don't forget about torque, transmission, traction, aerodynamics, driver experience, etc. 560 and 660 isn't too much difference either. And comparing with other video is useless i must say

@astra9828

Жыл бұрын

@@tidaltidaltidal 100hp difference is pretty big idk what ur smoking. The FF has a faster DCT and the M5 has a torque converter gearbox, the ferrari is more aerodynamic and driver experience is irrelevant when they're both driving automatic cars. Don't forget this channel used to be called "M5Board" so I wouldn't be surprised if this video was set up purposely to make the M5 win to please the BMW fanboys.

why is there the rear wiper on the FF? The aerodynamic design has been performed in order to keep the flow attached on the rear window, up to the spoiler; so the idea to do not put the rear wiper that would spoil the flow... can you give me info about this "version" with the wiper? Is it an optional?

BMW is ECU tuned for sure. That mean about 700 HP!

Tuned BMW M5 vs stock M5 F10 (Burger Motorsports Stage 1, AFE intake, muffler delete)

The M5 is not stock. I am sure I saw another video of this M5 where they stated it was tuned. Otherwise there is no way a stock M5 with 560PS will beat a FF with 660PS especially when the FF weighs 155kg less than the M5 !

If the M5 was tuned, would it have a 250 km/h limiter then??

Nice race, very clean and smooth

What tune does the m5 have ??

BMW is such a beast. And as well as beautiful.

@emhidi

9 жыл бұрын

The beast , The monster , The refined

gustav is the m5 tuned?

There is something wrong with the FF or how it's being driven. In a Auto Express video, the FF runs 1350 meters in ~25secs @175mph. The FF does 1000m in 20,5secs @260km/h from a standing start. The first rolling start in this video lasts about 25secs, when the M5 hits the limiter at 155mph / 250km/h.. So, either the Ferrari is broken or something like a snow-setting is used. Simply no way a stock M5 is faster than a Ferrari FF.

@mmmakeee

9 жыл бұрын

And the M5 hits its limiter in around 20-25secs, so it's probably not tuned.

alright! WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE??? at first i was like yeah Ferrari 660HP,less weight and i was ready to see the BMW lose cause i really love the FF shooting brake! but HOLY SHIT!! what's going on Gustav please?? if the M5 was tuned it must go above 250Km/h but it doesn't! or is it cold out side there? hoho but i love that!

@davidmitchell5638

9 жыл бұрын

errr i thinks i didn't say it was tuned??? i'm just surprised!

@ThePieman911

9 жыл бұрын

***** It is slightly tuned, I know for a fact it has exhaust and lowered springs from a video the other day

@weekendcollision2839

9 жыл бұрын

Not tuned nor is it dropped and it's the stock exhaust... Sorry fellas...

@ThePieman911

9 жыл бұрын

It is dropped, You can clearly see, I'm not saying that increased its chances of winning, but it is. And on another video it said that it's a custom exhaust.

This BMW is Tuned!!! Ferrari 100 hp more 155kg less!!! This BMW driver is an Epic troll

Gustav you should get a set of car scales! Good to show some true weights of road cars with fluids and fuels? That FF looks so good even if it loses

That is impressive to pull an FF. Did not expect that result at all even though M5 is a monster.

I'm going to unsubscribe because they are promoting Bmws too much by lying...

@TheEryk03

9 жыл бұрын

True.

I've seen on the drug strip how ff smoked E63, M5, F-types, gt-r....I have no idea of what's wrong here.

I know Ferrari has been know to send rear cars to magazines that are a little “tuned up”. If the FF really traps 127, which is a LOT by the way, there is no way a stock M5 is keeping up. So it would be Interesting to see if customer FF cars are really trapping that high.

BMW M5 vs tuned M5 F10 (Burger Motorsports Stage 1, AFE intake, muffler delete)

OMG!!! this is amazing!!! the FF has almost twice the power. and weight less!! still the M5 takes on!!! man that car came from heaven. Long Live The King! ///M5.

@theylive2749

3 жыл бұрын

The Ferrari FF doesn’t have 1,000 horsepower?lol

@quentinsimms3750

3 жыл бұрын

@@theylive2749 Its a mere exaggeration, chill out.

Stock M5 my ass.

This M5 can´t be stock, there are races between FF and 458 Speciale and the Speciale gets beat by the FF. Last time you raced a stock M5 F10 against a 458, the M5 lost and that was vs a regular 458.

@Legotechs

9 жыл бұрын

***** No, it´s not slower. the FF beats the 458 Speciale, it sure as hell is gone beat a regular 458 too.

Impressive results!

LOL! a "stock M5 f10 faster than a FF". Wtf is going on here Gustav?

@emhidi

9 жыл бұрын

Stock M5 , 610/630HP at the crank not to mention the torque , RWD ,and better tranny . The 4wd of the ferrari wad an handicap on the rolling start . F10M5 is fasteryou have no choice but to Accept it ^^.

@ballsbane

9 жыл бұрын

emhidi Also the torque curve of the m5 is pretty much unmatchable, maximum torque is produced from 1500-5500 rpm, while the FF, being NA produces it's torque in the midrange in a much small area. That and the M5's perfect fucking gearbox.

@TizianM7

9 жыл бұрын

Yolo Kongen the gearboxes are produced by the same Company

@ballsbane

9 жыл бұрын

TizianM7 Yeah, but Getrag or w/e also produces 700 other gearboxes, they are not the same.

@TizianM7

9 жыл бұрын

they are surely not the same but they are produced in the same location and from the same people. there is no big difference. if there is, ferrari has the advantage.

I love how people talk about underrated figures from BMW, torque and shit. Last thing i know from acceleration and speed trap testing is BMW M5 F10: 1/4 mile 118.9 mph FF: 127.4 1 mph, so an extra person will not make you lose 9 mph. 80kg will make an FF lose only 2.87 mph in 1/4 mile by my calculations.

@promodelred

7 жыл бұрын

It's a roll race...

stock specs card helps the popularity of this video, because people think that they are both stock.- Of course M5 is tuned. And something more : if M5 was 4wd would be heavier, slower, more expensive but better car, if you think i m wrong, then go buy a civic for 1k make it turbo, beat them both and be the coolest ricer in your high school.

I find it pretty hard to believe that the BMW won and it was stock.

Sorry guys... That's a stock M5 F10 and yes, it beat the FF... No surprise here... Half of you crazy people are basing your beliefs on the cost of the FF vs performance anyway... If you knew anything about cars and how they work, the first thing you'd stop saying is, it's a v8 vs a v12... That makes no difference... sorry fellas, bigger isn't always better in regards to engines... Full stop start vs rolling also makes no difference. The Bimmer M5 is lowered for drag it's not tuned or anything else... Changing the muffler isn't tuning it, It's all stock... It also doesn't break the rules of physics... BMW Slays and it's been proven over and over again... Test drive both and you'll see... The max torque difference is 3, which explains such a close race...

The M5 can't be stock...the weight is higher , less hp , same amonut of torque . You are ignorant if you say that is a stock M5 :) ... or the FF driver is not doing his best

Made me feel like I was watching (playing) a racing game with fantastic graphics.

its bmw baby, kicks ass

@euqueroxixi

8 жыл бұрын

The most peoples prefer ferrari sorry

@wqbb287

8 жыл бұрын

+Erza scarlet stfu

@euqueroxixi

8 жыл бұрын

EliteKing hehe

@exynos4670

4 жыл бұрын

Oscar Radikoro try koenigsegg one and your bmw

The M5 definently has something done to it...because they definentely dont come that low when stock.

Two evenly matched cars but the reason for m5 top end is because ferrari remains awd all the time while m5 turns to rwd at higher speeds

It's like the E60 M5 vs Gallardo all over again :)

@gtboard

9 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY! You must be an old M5BOARD.com Member :)

I own an F10 M5, it's stock and it already pushes 600BHP ad 740Nm of torque.

Remember that Ferrari FF and all other Ferrari's N/A engines in modern times got Direct Fuel Injection, it means You have to clean your intake valves because you can have power loss up to 30%, for more details google about Audi FSI engines, but it's common problem for DirectFuelInjection N/A Engines. Just remember to clean intake valves every time you change the engine oil in the car, it will help you to keep up your performance. Gustav, what is the 100-200km/h time for this M5? I have measured three, on was 8.0, second 8.1 but third (also stock) was 7.6 wheel size and equipment was almost the same, wheater conditions also....

Rims size???

M5 is such a beast!

Here is the BMW M5, in the video, my guess would be around 600RWHP the M5 F10 has 560 HP told from bmw, but in reality they make 600 - 605 HP stock form. Modifications : KW Sleeve kit Schmiedmann exhaust Black grill, gills and emblem from IND-distribution Tinted windows by Stockholms Solfilmcenter Link to car here. Only one thing to say.Mpower! onroaders.com/blog/1591/featured-arne-skaales-m5-f10

I don't care if the M5 is stock or not. I love how that M5 beat that Ferrari.

The M5 keeps on surprising me all the time.

why do you exist speed limiter?

F10 rims size?

The m5 is tuned obviously but it would be nice to have it put in the info

The M5 enigma: A 4-door monster faster in the top end than a Ferrari FF with 100 more hp.

Kan du filma en Mazda Furai? :D

I understand why it`s war in the world and violence in the citys when people arguing if a car is tuned or not

still dont understand... how can a Ferrari loose?!? so all the performance is better on Ferrari, its even slightly lighter then BMW. I know BMW has a RWD that is better in drag races, tho i'm not sure about 4WD on drag races but still... in the start how Ferrari should explode with 660 HP when he pushes the gas pedal on like 5-7k RPM its just weird. Either there's something wrong with the driver or just there's something hidden in the performance being shown at the begining of this vid. That's my conclude about Ferrari loosing...

I'm not believing the M5 is stock, but then again, a stock M6 can pull a 458. However the M5 is clearly lowered, and assuming one mod has been done, what's to say others haven't.

if it was stock or not compare the prices

Great pull, I honestly thought that the Ferrari would win at 1 or 2(max) car lengths, apparently not.

@ChromeWrapz The owner has lowering kit and other mufflers. That is all

Not a stock m5 still insanely impressive

Its incredible how people who've never driven the F10 underestimate it, One drive and most slating it here will keep quiet. In one word, Beast is what can truly describe the //M5, problem most owners will have is learning not to get carried away while driving and chatting away as has happened to me loads, one look at the speedo and one will panic. Its an insanely almost unnecessarily too fast.

@FanOfAttitudeEra

8 жыл бұрын

Last thing i know from acceleration and speed trap testing is BMW M5 F10: 1/4 mile at 118.9 mph FF: at 127.4 1 mph. adding 80 kg will make the FF lose 2.87 mph in a 1/4 mile. Case closed

Damn, that outcome surprised me....

Might as well had robots driving the cars. Damn double clutch..

@peruggo

9 жыл бұрын

While we're at it, let's get rid of ABS, TC and whatnot, we don't need any of these... These are road cars, both of them. Get off your high horse.

@Smite0wpi

9 жыл бұрын

Petar Nikolov So you're saying there is no reason for a person to buy a fast Ferrari or M series over a Sonata or Camry because they all have ABS TC and double clutch systems? Obviously the people bought these cars to go fast and get good 1/4 or track times. These cars are made for racing, hence why they advertise fast speeds and horsepower. Get off your high horse.

@Smite0wpi

9 жыл бұрын

While we're at it, let's make all cars have the same amount of horsepower, same type of brakes, suspension, transmission, we don't need any of these. Every car is a road car so why the fuck should it matter?

@peruggo

9 жыл бұрын

Satisfying You're not making any sense...how did you come to that conclusion based on what I said?! Read my comment again. I imply it's normal for most road cars to have double clutch, ABS, TC systems nowadays, not that you should buy a Camry over a Ferrari. And what you initially said implies what most "purists" tend to think - we should leave all cars as they were 20 years ago so we get to "feel" them better. I agree, but only if you're after the sensation of challenging yourself on the track and having some fun, but don't want grandma reluctantly drifting in the parking lot cos she borrowed the bimmer to buy some milk :P

@peruggo

9 жыл бұрын

Satisfying That's probably what you tell your mum after a long day trolling around KZread. Grow up, you fucking moron

M5 has the same torque figure at a lower rpm, hence it can creep forward even with less HP. Remove the limiter from the M5, it'd still be slower than the FF at the top-end though (if the runway was long enough of course)...

Something is just not right , I'm a big BMW fan but I dont know you gotta be realistic

According to fastestlaps, BMW M5 F10 100-200 = 11,7-3.9 seconds = 7,8 seconds. Ferrari FF 100 - 200 = 10,9 - 3,5 = 7,4. One person more in the FF and this is supposed to be pretty close. Theyre both pretty packed with people and the M5 weights more from the start, so the relative addition of weight is less in the M5. Adding weight in the m5 should affect acceleration less (1870/1785= ~5 % more relative acceleration benefit for the m5 per added kg), and the 4wd system in the ff probably steals more effect, which is noticable the faster you go. Lots of small benefits for the M5. If there is only 1 person in each car and they start from 0 kmh the FF should win quite clearly I think.

The Ferrari FF is naturally aspirated, M5 is turbo charged. If this was done high above sea level the outcome is absolutely plausible.

It's that maths don't add Gustav. Please take that BMW to a dynamo and show us the real power. ;-)

Car is clearly stock, you can compare the gear changes to this video: New BMW M5 (F10) 0-315 km/h (Motorsport). The gearbox shifts almost identically if you run the videos side by side using the uncut footage. Sync on 2nd to 3rd shift.

Puts 100kg of bricks and lard to the ferrari, makes gas sponsor very happy, gets companys gas card with credits. Biases the point of these matches altogether and makes me a very sad panda.

What a peasant revolt going on here. I bet some folks almost had a heart attack while proving that the bimmer is tuned. LOL

Mercedes E63 V8 BiTurbo Performance Package vs BMW M5 F10 (Schmiedmann exhaust)

can't we all just close our eyes and enjoy the sound?

Wow, the FF is no slouch! That BMW must be heavier, yet it stayed there while still accelerating at wait. Then down track when weight plays less, and HP is everything is started to walk on the FF. That BMW must have more hp, and or trq than the FF to do that. Very close race though! I don't know enough of a F10 M but it's fast.

Just to say, this channel was called M5BOARD.COM, funny that......

Hi I own the blue tuned M5, I was there driving to, Gustav have choose to wait with my films. The problem is not with the M5, the problem is with the FF, of course all of us driving was the same surprised as you are, but we donet questioned the m5 since we know it is stock, The only thing I saw which was surprised whith FF, was that they often drove with three people in it, but we all did not believe what we saw..., and it weights 1940kg and not as the heading says... I wanted ask the FF owner if I could drive it for him and give the car justice, but how could I do that...? But something was not right here, I had bad feeling since I know how the viewers would react seeing this humiliation for Ferrari, But you dont really know how fast the new M5f10 is... IF you drive it right it's incredible fast..., Some refer to the race between m5 vs Scuderia,..., but you can't start in 50km/h on the first gear..., I have had some fast Audis, and like Audi, but à MTM tuned Rs6 c6 is not fast, Gustav have à film with my stock GT-r blue 2011, vs tuned Rs6 blue sedan c6, and the Rs6 stand still..., it's not fast at all compered to new generation supercars..., The competition in these races are hard, so small bad decitions make big differences, no time for misses... But love Ferrari and still dont really understundom the results..., But no one is lieing about stock or tuned...

@MrMegacurie

9 жыл бұрын

If the M5 is not tuned - there is definetly a problem with the FF thats a typical FF Result: /watch?v=4v145xcD9Tw&list=PLiH3oqkwuzIGyZJ8gXJ-SKGV8SJnCHu-4 In every german car review there was nothing special with the M5 Its a 13sec 0-200kph car - not more - not less And believe me - BMW`s in german car magazines are always well prepared

@GTRuppsala

9 жыл бұрын

MrMegacurie I see your point, but 458 2010-11, is not so fast, 458 2012- and newer is much faster, I lost every time against my friend with red 458 with black roof 2012 against my stock GT-R blue 2011, but I think M5f10 is a little bit faster than GT-R..., So if this is the first 458, it's not a surprise..., This m5 has KW coilovers, and just Schmiedmanns end-muffler, it's almost the same sound as the stock mufflers, so I don't think that gives any extra power... But if the FF had the right setup: no AC (aircondition) on, racemode, just 2 people in the car, and perfect start end gearchange..., maybe he had won, Arne the owner of M5, he can drive...

Ok now I'm not a fan boy of either car, but can someone please tell me how a car with less power/torque and more weight + a smaller engine wins? Gearing maybe? Perhaps forced induction is giving an upper hand in acceleration(turbos, ect.)? It just seems really weird if both of these are "stock" and the one that's theoretically much much slower actually wins...

@SGFourFiftyR

8 жыл бұрын

In fact, I think I can somewhat answer my own question. Forced induction (twin turbo) vehicles accelerate exponentially. So basically they accelerate at an increasing rate. On the other hand, naturally aspirated vehicles accelerate in a linear way. So they accelerate at a constant rate. It seems that regardless of the specifications/performance figures - twin turbo cars will always accelerate better than naturally aspirated generally speaking. That's exactly what we are seeing here. However, it should mean that after a certain point, the turbo'd car obviously can't really accelerate at an increasing rate any more so the other car (naturally aspirated) would eventually catch up due to sheer horsepower and top speed capabilities. Anyone agree? Any different explanations; please share!

The M5 tuned for sure Because it was beaten by the 458 and the FF is faster than 458 so the result showing that this car tuned it is not just exhust

@ron999

9 жыл бұрын

***** Ferrari 458 italia vs. Ferrari FF (60-300kmh) - ROLL RACE type that in search youtube, and say it again

This M5 cant be stock... M5 must have around 700 hp to do that... On paper Ferrari is faster, lighter. And this M5 wins every race ? You love M cars on this channel, but this is parody. Engine from Ferrari Enzo, hey... FF needs 10.9 seconds to 200 kmh, M5 F10 needs 11.7 seconds. 1000 m FF is almost 1 sec faster. Data by Fastestlap com COPY THIS TO SEARCH: F10 BMW M5 vs Ferrrari 458 Italia with Sophie. If 458 (not speciale) beat hard F10 M5, M5 cant beat FF thats simple !!!! THEN COPY THIS: Ferrari 458 italia vs. Ferrari FF (60-300kmh) - ROLL RACE Ferrari FF destroyed 458 italia. SO conclusion is that BMW in this video is tuned hard. At least 680-700 hp For grand finale TYPE this in yt search: Ferrari 458 Italia vs Manhart Racing BMW M6 Coupe F12 V8 Stage 4 x 2 races So 700 hp M6 wins by little margin on 1km runway, 1 car lenght. But Ferrari FF from, ferrari 458 italia vs ferrari ff 60-300 kmh VIDEO DESTROY 458 italia, so conclusion is that BMW in this video have approx. 710 to 730 hp, some stage 3 shit. High tunned. F10 BMW M5 vs Ferrari 430 Scuderia F430 scuderia wins against F10 M5 easily with 510 hp. ===================================================================================== 458 italia wins vs F10 M5 - F10 BMW M5 vs Ferrrari 458 Italia with Sophie (type in search) FF wins vs 458 italia - Ferrari 458 italia vs. Ferrari FF (60-300kmh) - ROLL RACE (type in search) Gustav turbo pdk loses vs 458 speciale - 4k Ferrari 458 Speciale vs Porsche 911 Turbo PDK Sport Chrono (997) in 4k Ultra HD (type in search) 997 turbo pdk wins vs F10 M5 - F10 BMW M5 vs Porsche 911 Turbo PDK (double-clutch Mk II 997 generation) (type in search) 458 italia wins vw 997 turbo pdk - Ferrari 458 Italia vs Porsche 911 Turbo PDK (both stock) So if FF wins vs 458 italia, 458 wins vs 997 turbo pdk which wins vs M5 F10 hard. What you expect ???? End of story...

@9999cristos

9 жыл бұрын

von 0- ist es was anderes der ferrari hat awd,...

@batman291

9 жыл бұрын

I think the M5 has a modded exhaust.

@9999cristos

9 жыл бұрын

yes akrapovic Evolution System..?

@davidmitchell5638

9 жыл бұрын

Ron Ferka but if the M5 is tuned,then why it doesn't go above 250km/h??

@shadowgoesfps

9 жыл бұрын

David MuscleGuy It's not tuned, just another exhaust.

Good race

How ?