Just remember, for this movie's 50th Anniversary it was re-released to theaters in 1990, and then onto VHS for the first time ever in November of 1991. That is the edition where we actually hear the voice of the Master of Ceremonies and Narrator of the film, music critic Deems Taylor.

This is the recording I remember as a kid! Corey Burton did a pretty impressive impersonation of Taylor's voice, but I much prefer hearing the actual version.

@CCRhorst

4 жыл бұрын

Me too. I thought something was different about his voice and when I realized it wasn't his real voice I was so sad. This was and still is my favorite Disney movie.

@paulspivey6799

3 жыл бұрын

In 1947 Fantasia was cut to 115 minutes which shortened Taylor's introductions to the compositions. They were able to restored the original introductions of Taylor from the debut release including the Chimes accident, but they couldn't restore all of Taylor's dialogue, they didn't just re-dub Taylor full introductions they also re-dubbed the orchestra. The original audio elements of Taylor's introductions couldn't be fixed so they hired Veteran Voice Actor Corey Burton to re-record the dialogue. I think that Disney re-recording Taylor's introductions with Corey's voice is understandable.

It's too bad Disney couldn't preserve the original version of Fantasia. Hearing and seeing the original roadshow version would've been the ultimate experience.

So here's the story as far as I understand. When Fantasia was first released in 1940, Taylor's introductions were pretty long, and as the years went by and Fantasia was re-released again in 1947 and every release since, Walt Disney's distributer R.K.O shortened down 11 minutes of Taylor's scenes to get to songs quicker. Then when it came time to release Fantasia for home video, they wanted it to be the original cut. Only after all those years of not being in use, while the footage remained in good condition, the original audio from Taylor's extended scenes either became unusable or lost. So they had 3 choices 1. Release the shortened version with the original voice, but without the complete scenes. 2. Use whatever OG audio they had and fill in the in betweens (which there was a lot of mind you) 3. Or just redub the whole thing. Now if you're wondering, "Well why didn't they just use the audio from a VHS tape or 70mm film role?" because every release of the film on those mediums would have been the shortened versions.

The "Three Kinds of Music" bit, for some reason, is deeply-embedded into my brain and has been for my whole life. When I was a kid, I used to put on our VHS copy of this movie and pretend I was conductor Leopold Stokowski during each intro, conducting the Philadelphia Philharmonic Orchestra.

@phantomstrider

Жыл бұрын

For some reason, "what you are going to see.." was the part that got embedded into my brain 😄

Deception takes over when something other than Taylor’s actual voice is offered.

I don't know why they re-dubbed his voice. This is so much better.

@superjackster0165

4 жыл бұрын

They were trying to restore Fantasia to it’s original Roadshow premiere version. In that version, Deems Taylor’s introductions were longer and more detailed. His face was also shown on camera as well. Although they found the footage, the original recordings of Deems Taylor were either lost or badly damaged to the point where they couldn’t be used. So they brought in Disney voice actor Corey Burton to just re-dub all of Deems Taylor’s lines

@Thomas_H._Smith

3 жыл бұрын

So here's the story as far as I understand. When Fantasia was first released in 1940, Taylor's introductions were pretty long, and as the years went by and Fantasia was re-released again in 1947 and every release since, Walt Disney shortened down 11 minutes of Taylor's scenes to get to songs quicker. Then when it came time to release Fantasia for home video, they wanted it to be the original cut. Only after all those years of not being in use, while the footage remained in good condition, the original audio from Taylor's extended scenes either became unusable or lost. So they had 3 choices 1. Release the shortened version with the original voice, but without the complete scenes. 2. Use whatever OG audio they had and fill in the in betweens (which there was a lot of mind you) 3. Or just redub the whole thing. Now if you're wondering, "Well why didn't they just use the audio from a VHS tape or 70mm film role?" because every release of the film on those mediums would have been the shortened versions.

@Sherbert1118

5 ай бұрын

Well, what happened was that Deems Taylor’s voice had been deemed virtually unachievable because of how badly his voice clips had deteriorated, some of his extended voice audio had been completely lost, so they had to bring in another person to voice over all of his lines.

@SamsonSilvo

Ай бұрын

@@Thomas_H._Smith For the film's final theatrical re-release in 1990, which is the same edit used for the 1991 VHS and Laserdisc release, they went with Option 1. For the 2000 DVD release onward, they went with Option 3.

I knew I wasn't crazy. Whoever did the narration for what I watched was not the same guy!!

@williammorris89

6 жыл бұрын

I'd have to agree with you. Could somebody upload all the original narrations they can find?

@sheupe

4 жыл бұрын

It was redubbed by Corey Burton

@marinerman

4 жыл бұрын

Same. Kinda a Mandela effect type of moment, huh?

rw:the 1990s VHS version for Deems Taylor's introduction was what i like the most.

I definitely remember Taylor's voice in the original version. On the DVD I initially thought his voice had been pitched or something, til I read later that it was not the case. So yeah, I much prefer the 90's version any day.

@spectreagent

4 ай бұрын

I remember seeing Fantasia back in 1975 when I was 13 and remember hearing Dean's Taylor's voice. And I believe that version was 2 hours.

I knew something was off about the voice in the version I grew up watching (2010 DVD release) when I watched an episode of Justice League Unlimited and heard Braniac’s voice, which sounded like “Deems Taylor’s” voice, but couldn’t have been, cause he died long before the show aired. Turned out, it was Corey Burton overdubbing Deems Taylor. For what it’s worth, Burton’s voice does a good job of keeping us excited about what we’re going to see, but I wish that Taylor’s original voice tracks hadn’t deteriorated, so we could fully see Fantasia as it was meant to be shown.

@ProjectDreamCatcher

2 ай бұрын

In listening to Corey Burton, I kept thinking it might be Kelsey Grammer, who would have been great also, except one small fact ..... he wasn't born yet 😅.

I agree i prefer the original Deems Taylor

Wow, that Cory Burton dub has terrible lip-sync issues...that, and he makes Deems Taylor sound like Space Ghost.

The newer version shown in the clip is from 2000, not 2004. My bad. @ChernabogNosgoth, the 1990 version in my clip is from VHS, and we do see Deems Taylor in it, with his real voice.

Some people have said that that's not actually Deems Taylor's voice in the first clip bur rather Hugh Douglas'. He was the narrator for the 1982 re-release. That version was released again in 1985, this time with Tim Matheson doing the narration.

In 2000 on DVD, voice-over work was re-recorded by veteran voice artist Corey Burton for late Deems Taylor.

I'm not gonna lie, I feel mixed about which voice over I prefer. On one hand, Corey Burton's voice does do a good job portraying the professionalism and sincerity of Deems Taylor's voice, but on the other hand as most have already said in the comments the original is Deems Taylor's ACTUAL speaking voice and I understand wanting to hear the actual person speaking and not just the dubbed voice.

I don't know exactly what happened, but I have no idea why they couldn't use the audio track from the 70mm prints they put out for the 1990 re-release. There is no way Disney didn't keep at least one working print.

@superjackster0165

3 жыл бұрын

They were trying to restore Fantasia to it’s original Roadshow premiere version. In that version, Deems Taylor’s introductions were longer and more detailed. His face was also shown on camera as well. Although they found the footage, the original recordings of Deems Taylor were either lost or badly damaged to the point where they couldn’t be used. So they brought in Disney voice actor Corey Burton to just re-dub all of Deems Taylor’s lines

@Thomas_H._Smith

3 жыл бұрын

So here's the story as far as I understand. When Fantasia was first released in 1940, Taylor's introductions were pretty long, and as the years went by and Fantasia was re-released again in 1947 and every release since, they shortened down his scenes a bit to get to songs quicker. Then when it came time to release Fantasia for home video, they wanted it to be the original cut. Only after all those years of not being in use, while the footage remained in good condition, the original audio from Taylor's extended scenes became unusable. So they had 3 choices 1. Release the shortened version with the original voice, but without the complete scenes. 2. Use whatever OG audio they had and fill in the in betweens (which there was a lot of mind you) 3. Or just redub the whole thing. So even if they did have a 70mm copy of the film, it would have most likely been the shortened version without everything they needed as the original hadn't been used in at least 50 years.

They should have just dubbed the unearthed footage that didn't have audio and left the previous material intact, or at least hired an actor who could imitate Deems Taylor. I'm thinking of how they restored Spartacus where Anthony Hopkins imitated Laurence Olivier's voice for the deleted scene only.

@vipersquad

3 жыл бұрын

@AlezanderNX Yes, but Corey Burton sounded nothing like Deems Taylor.

I watched the dvd version a lot growing up, I bought the vhs version since it was 4 bucks and I wanted to relive the memories Then I found this video and realized I was watching a different version 😭

Let's hope that the Diamond edition won't be dubbed

Deems Taylor's voice was great and the 1990 version kept it that way. But in the1990 version, many of DeemsTaylor's

I have the final VHS release with Taylor’s real voice. The redub took place in 2000, around the time of Fantasia 2000.

I’m used to the Corey Burton dub and I was convinced said voice actor was immortal or something.

This is what I remember!

The 1990 version was the one that I saw when I was very young, probably around 3. I've seen the re-released Blue-Ray version, but I still find myself preferring the old version, mainly due to that one having the real voice of Deems Taylor.

I remember the origainal 1990 / 1991 version video of Fantasia When It first came out And got saw it loved it i still have it now plus I loved Mickey Mouse

@vnisanianisback, my clip is from the 1990 VHS, which was based on the 1990 full restoration with Deems Taylor's real voice, not from the '82 nor '85 version.

Actually the original VHS came out in 1991 The DVD came out in 2000 and went out of print in 2004

i don't see anybody on youtube who has the 1990 version of fantasia on youtube i hope they upload the full version of the 1990 version of fantasia on youtube soon

(continued) - Me too i like the original deems taylor's voice better but the corey burton's voice is a huge disapointment for me i am a fan of the original deem's taylor's voice i am pretty sure they will upload the 1990 version of fantasia with the original deems taylor's voice on youtube with the end credits i hope.

@classicvideogoodies Okay, just making sure. Plus you can even tell it's the original because it doesn't sound like it was recorded in 1982 or 1985. It sounds much older than that.

I wish that there was an option on modern releases to watch the shortened intros, because it's not necessary to explain the entire segment from beginning to end before you see it. Also it would spoil things for first time watchers.

I knew something was off. I was watching on Disney plus and I knew it wasn’t the voice in my old vhs

@justaperson7938

4 жыл бұрын

If you'll look closely the lip synch/lip flap doesn't match at some points too or looks slightly out of place.

Corey Burton’s a great voice actor, but he sounds absolutely nothing like Deems Taylor

that is 2 ways for the 1940 film 1 is the original and the other was re-recorded

To this day I cannot understand why Disney didn't just use Taylor's original tracks where they existed.

@classicvideogoodies

6 жыл бұрын

The restored version is longer, with more footage of Taylor, but Taylor's voice only exists in the shorter version. If they had used Taylor's voice in the longer version, you would've heard parts with his real voice and parts not. That was the reason they decided to just re-dub it entirely. We can hope they may uncover the missing Taylor voice recordings in the future and re-restore them.

@superjackster0165

4 жыл бұрын

They were trying to restore Fantasia to it’s original Roadshow premiere version. In that version, Deems Taylor’s introductions were longer and more detailed. Although they found the footage, the original recordings of Deems Taylor were either lost or badly damaged to the point where they couldn’t be used. So they brought in Disney voice actor Corey Burton to just re-dub all of Deems Taylor’s lines

@Thomas_H._Smith

3 жыл бұрын

So here's the story as far as I understand. When Fantasia was first released in 1940, Taylor's introductions were pretty long, and as the years went by and Fantasia was re-released again in 1947 and every release since, Walt Disney shortened down 11 minutes of Taylor's scenes to get to songs quicker. Then when it came time to release Fantasia for home video, they wanted it to be the original cut. Only after all those years of not being in use, while the footage remained in good condition, the original audio from Taylor's extended scenes either became unusable or lost. So they had 3 choices 1. Release the shortened version with the original voice, but without the complete scenes. 2. Use whatever OG audio they had and fill in the in betweens (which there was a lot of mind you) 3. Or just redub the whole thing. Now if you're wondering, "Well why didn't they just use the audio from a VHS tape or 70mm film role?" because every release of the film on those mediums would have been the shortened versions.

scenes were cut out, so much of the introduction to each piece is missing.

@Thomas_H._Smith

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah about 11 minutes worth of it.

I found one of the original film reel copies of this film on eBay! Anyone who's rich as fuck reading this comment right now, you better go buy it. Hopefully some of Taylor's monologues excised from the 50th anniversary cut are still in there!

Ok Cool i can buy the Fantasia 1990 vhs on amazon for one cent i like the 1990 version i grew up watching the 1990 version alot

I prefer Deems Taylor's original voice better. The overdub ruins the movie.

@musiciangal02453

6 жыл бұрын

Me too! It's not the same with the updated overdub they put in for the DVD version.

@obnoxiousoboe

6 жыл бұрын

While yes, I do agree that it would've been better hearing Deems' voice, I still give credit to Disney for trying to go back to the original roadshow version. And at least Corey Burton tried to make an effort of replicating his narration from the 1940 version. It's a shame Deems' audio tracks for the original are right now missing.

@tristanpetty7173

6 жыл бұрын

obnoxiousoboe This. Even though Taylor's real voice is much preferable, I really appreciate that they went back to make the film more complete.

@RoseTheRoyal

3 жыл бұрын

obnoxiousoboe The tracks aren’t missing, just really badly deteriorated to the point of being unusable

Was the original version EVER released on DVD anywhere?

Jeff Bennett redid all of Mr. Taylor's missing lines on future dvd releases.

@gamestation2690

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, it's Corey Burton.

They should've used a Laserdisc copy, and duplicate it for later versions.

@TooCooFoYou

8 жыл бұрын

+Luis Morales I think the reason why they didn't do it was that it wouldn't look good on DVD or Blu-Ray. Just look at the Star Wars unaltered DVD releases, it wasn't good picture quality-wise.

@LuigiTheMetal64

8 жыл бұрын

+cesarmanuel51 I always thought once they've copied from old formats, they can digitally clean up the rots that is taken from the original.

@TooCooFoYou

8 жыл бұрын

Luis Morales Keep in mind that many restorations of old movies are done with the original master prints. Something like VHS or Laserdisc format wouldn't work for a Blu-Ray release as those releases weren't ever meant to a newer format.

@LuigiTheMetal64

8 жыл бұрын

+cesarmanuel51 Well, maybe they could've copied the audio from the laserdisc version since the master video is still usable. Although, I haven't compared audio quality with the laserdisc and DVD/Blu-Ray.

@HerpdeDerpDaMan

7 жыл бұрын

The reason that they did not use the same audio master for the DVD/Blu-Ray releases as the one they used on the Laserdisc is that the LD master was the shortened version of the film. When Disney seeked to restore the length of the film to the original roadshow length, they found that the Deems Taylor audio from the missing segments had degraded significantly enough to the point where they felt an entire redubbing of him was nescessary.

The second version is from 2000 not 2004

@RurouniK95 Or just buy the Fantasia 1990 VHS for one cent on Amazon.

@BrandyL_R

4 жыл бұрын

Vhs is not compatible with most modern tv hookups, which can be enough to discourage most people. I'm just surprised they dubbed Taylor at all. Cutting the dialog should've sufficed, I'd think.

OMFG COULD THEY NOT JUST SEPARATE THE AUDIO FROM A LASERDISC?

What if the source of the 1990 edition ? In the VHS, we don't see Deems Taylor in screen !

@deanaviram5009

7 жыл бұрын

That's only in foreign dubs!

What I dont understand is in the 60th anniversary edition they managed to include some of the orchestra members struggling with an instrument. Was that part of the old footage as well?

@superjackster0165

Жыл бұрын

Yes. The version on the DVD and Blu-Ray was the original Roadshow version. In that version, there were more scenes with the orchestra

@wiisalute

Жыл бұрын

@@superjackster0165 what about footage of Deems Taylor? I had the laserdisc version and all you hear is his voice. I know Corey Burton dubbed it on the DVD/Blu Ray version

@superjackster0165

Жыл бұрын

@@wiisalute That’s still Deems Taylor. In the original Roadshow version of the film, his introductions were much longer and more detailed. In those longer introductions, the camera focused on him the entire time. For later releases, the intro’s were heavily shortened. As a result of this, I’m guessing to avoid noticeable jump cuts, they changed it to have his voice only be heard and instead showing (what looks to be) b-roll footage of the orchestra

@wiisalute

Жыл бұрын

@@superjackster0165 its amazing how you can take lost footage and restore it

@superjackster0165

Жыл бұрын

@@wiisalute The footage wasn’t lost. It was just hadn’t been used for 60 years. But the audio was lost. As you probably know, the original recordings of Deems Taylor’s long introductions were either lost or damaged to the point where they couldn’t be used. So they then brought in Disney voice actor Corey Burton to basically redub all of Taylor’s lines. So while that is the real Deems Taylor that you see on screen, that’s not his voice that you hear

If Deems Taylor's voice was re-recorded, why wasn't the 1982 re-recordings there to go with it? This sucks! EDIT (2021) - I was around 14 or 15 when I said that.

@classicvideogoodies

7 жыл бұрын

The 1982 recordings were not complete. This new version of Fantasia actually contains additional scenes of Deems Taylor, for which there was no original voice recording. That was the main reason they decided to re-dub all of his scenes.

@Thomas_H._Smith

3 жыл бұрын

So here's the story as far as I understand. When Fantasia was first released in 1940, Taylor's introductions were pretty long, and as the years went by and Fantasia was re-released again in 1947 and every release since, Walt Disney shortened down 11 minutes of Taylor's scenes to get to songs quicker. Then when it came time to release Fantasia for home video, they wanted it to be the original cut. Only after all those years of not being in use, while the footage remained in good condition, the original audio from Taylor's extended scenes either became unusable or lost. So they had 3 choices 1. Release the shortened version with the original voice, but without the complete scenes. 2. Use whatever OG audio they had and fill in the in betweens (which there was a lot of mind you) 3. Or just redub the whole thing. Now if you're wondering, "Well why didn't they just use the audio from a VHS tape or 70mm film role?" because every release of the film on those mediums would have been the shortened versions.

@jaythebillz9543

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, never mind what I said before. What I said before was at a time where I watched the original Fantasia for the first time ever. And shortly after, I discovered the Irwin Kostal soundtrack and I liked it better than the Leopoldo Stokowski recordings. It wouldn't be until years later that I got over my childish ways and appreciated Fantasia for what it is; An animated masterpiece that should be loved for a lifetime.

New voice is too high.

Why did they replace his voice anyway?

@MitchellHang

2 жыл бұрын

Because the original audio tracks for Deems's scenes have long since deteriorated.

Deems Taylor stop spoiling the entire plot of every scene

No significant difference between the voices.

@PopCultureKick

7 жыл бұрын

Did you not watch the clip?