You're Not Loving Fantasia Hard Enough
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“This is not the cartoon medium. It should not be limited to cartoons. We have worlds to conquer here.” - Walt Disney
For Further Reading
-Allan, Robin. Walt Disney and Europe: European Influences on the Animated Films of Walt Disney. Indiana University Press. 1999.
-Culhane, John. Walt Disney’s Fantasia (1987 ed.) Abradale Press/Harry N. Abrams Inc, 1983.
-Beck, Jerry. The Animated Movie Guide. A Cappella Books, 2005.
-Holt, Nathalia. The Queens of Animation: The Untold Story of the Women Who Transformed the World of Disney and Made Cinematic History. Little, Brown and Company, 2019.
-Maltin, Leonard. Of Mice and Magic: A History of American Animated Cartoons. Plume, 1980.
-Taylor, Deems. Fantasia. Simon and Schuster, 1940.
-Thomas, Frank, & Ollie Johnston. The Illusion of Life: Disney Animation. Disney Editions, 1981.
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I have been screaming into the void that this is the best Disney movie since my childhood. This movie made me want to be an animator. Now, animation degree and design job in hand, I finally find someone screaming loud enough to be heard. Thank you for this. This is brilliant.
Walt disney + Tchaikovsky = Pure Gold
@helvete_ingres4717
7 ай бұрын
I understand they chose pieces with popular appeal, but with the obvious exception of the Beethoven symphony, none of the pieces are among the 'great' music of the classical canon.
I feel so validated by this video, because as a kid, I could TELL there were direct parallels between the Toccata and fugue in D-minor and the Nutcracker suite, but I couldn't put into words WHAT it was that meant.
The hippo and the crocodile are my favorite couple. I love how the croc doesn’t discriminate and he only wants to dance with his plus sized gf even if she crushes him. Best ship dynamic.
@erikbihari3625
Жыл бұрын
So good that Daisy and Minnie brought them back for an ice skating competition in a movie nobody talks about! Asking it's fair?
@adzukibean2190
Жыл бұрын
@@erikbihari3625 I actually saw that Christmas special. The cgi wasn’t that good though. Still love hippo and croc though!
@CarSVernon
Жыл бұрын
it's cause the music is by far among the catchiest
@user-ls2ez6hu3p
7 ай бұрын
Not only that, bigger ballerina dancers are still uncommon. It's a great animation excerize and the animators put alot of personalit into the hippos. It is great and I do love it. Also the ostriches with there tiny faces 😂 it's good.
Out of all Disney's "golden era" movies, this is without a doupt my favourite. I also love all those packege-era movies; they and the "dark age" movies are the ones that I rewatch the most...
@jordanjoestar-turniptruck
Жыл бұрын
Yes, say what you will about Disney's dark age, but I'm still in awe of those last original animation vets flexing on a shoestring.
@erikbihari3625
Жыл бұрын
@@jordanjoestar-turniptruckAnd not just tieing their stories to easily digestable characters,themes, what have you. But actually letting the abstract beauty of animation breath for a moment!
@betsykeller4898
Жыл бұрын
Same
@davidfox5383
7 күн бұрын
I especially love The Three Caballeros as sort of a Latin Fantasia!
Fantasia was the first movie I ever saw in a theater. It was 1970 and I was 5. I loved it until “Night on Bald Mountain.” It scared me to death!
I never watched Fantasia, but the last segment with dinosaurs gave me chills. It's kinda shocking how... brutal it is. I guess I will love Fantasia after the second part huh
@eggboy9126
Жыл бұрын
just watch the movie
@janedoe5229
10 ай бұрын
Just watch it. It's animated music videos to classical music. And the skill of the animators is stellar. But it's more than "watching" the animation. It's like eating a delicious meal: you only savor it while you are experiencing it. You get lost in the gorgeousness of the music, AND the gorgeousness of images before your eyes.
It's a shame that Disney chickened out of ending of Rite of Spring with the Dawn of Man, since it would have been a great paralellel to the ending of Act 2. It would have made the film more cohesive if Act 1 and 2 both ended with terror being conquered by hope, Act 1 showing the rational, scientific perspective, while Act 2 expressed the spiritual side. It might have helped more people realize your argument, that the film is not a series of shorts, but a holistic experience.
He says "this may not be your personal favorite". Yes, it IS my personal favorite.
You’ve analyzed this movie way better than anyone I’ve seen, as you analyze as a movie, not a painting. Everyone praises it for the animation and how well it pairs with the music, and while those are incredible, Fantasia is more about how it makes you feel. There’s a reason that despite Chernabog having no defined personality, he is listed with the greats like Maleficent or Ursula because he makes you feel the presence of evil anytime he is seen. There is a reason that one of Mickey’s most iconic images is him battling the water. That’s why Fantasia is seen getting into the top 10 and even 5 of many Disney rankings, while the package era films are mostly forgotten. And while I can’t say it’s my favorite, or even in my top 5, it is definitely a masterpiece like no other.
Disney’s “Golden Age” aka their first 5 films put the modern company to shame.
Trex fighting Timothee Chamelet was not something I expected to hear on this video 🤣🤣. Great job 👏🏽
Disney’s Rite of Spring absolutely paved the way for Land Before Time and Jurassic Park.
@DocKrazy
3 ай бұрын
There's a scene in jurassic world I am convinced is a nigh shot for shot recreation of the pterasaus scene in fantasia
@al4381
3 ай бұрын
Don Bluth was a huge fan of Disney's golden era and wanted it to inspire his work, which is why he borrows from it both in story, aesthetic, and technique. Secret of NIMH uses techniques and pallets from Snow White and Pinocchio, Land before time borrows from Fantasia and Bambi, Thumbelina borrows the fairies from Fantasia, etc
I don't think of the little mushroom as vain at all. I always figured he was just a little kid, maybe 2 years old, and he's having fun with the older family members. They are letting him do the parts of a "traditional" family dance that are the simplest so he's still included. Idk, I grew up as the youngest in my family by quite a large age gap, as visually implied with the mushroom family, and there were many time when we were doing something that was too hard/complicated for little me to keep up with so they always found a way for me to still feel included. And I saw myself and my family in those dancing mushrooms from the first time I watched this movie at 4 years old. All in all, I loved this movie as a kid and still do. My family was big into classical music, the toccata and fugue was my first favorite song according to my parents that noticed I was absolutely memorized by it as an infant. Everytime I went to visit my grandparents I watched this movie. It was one of the Disney movies that definitely inspired me to become an artist and draw.
In the Rites of Spring segment, the animation artists were instructed to avoid "anthropomorphic cuteness" for the dinosaurs....they have to behave like animals...they lay eggs, they hatch, they grow, they eat. And they die!
Fantasia was actually my favourite disney movie when I was growing up because it made me use my imagination. It was fun and fantastical. It felt like going on a journey as you watch it. I had all these questions that I wanted to know the answer to, like who are the characters and what happens to them outside of the movie. I kept watching it over and over again to learn more. I dreamt about and would imagine living in all of the worlds. I loved the entire experience
This movie represents so much for me. It solidified my early love for classical music back in 1990 or 1991. It made me realize how important music was in general but also in movies. This one along with Goldsmith's Alien and Williams' scores to Indy, Hook and a lot of other masterpieces made me want to become a film composer. Yet this one, Fantasia, will always have a special place in my heart and life! (I just bought a second hand collector edition from 1990 with a booklet, two video tapes and two discs which are untouched. Neven been opened. Couldn't feel closer to a 90's Christmas morning than this morning). Happy to see that other people still love this movie so much. Thanks for this video essay!
My son sat mesmerized by this movie and it gave me a new appreciation for it. He is almost 4 and randomly asks to put it on while we play (he calls it the playing movie)
Seeing this video on my feed > Christmas morning
I absolutely love Fantasia, and have since I first watched it on the old VHS player at my grandma's house, thank you for making this!
The Golden age of animation! ❤👏🏻 Fantasia is a real masterpiece. 🖼️🎵
You didn't need to make this masterpiece, but you did! I agree that Fantasia was already a masterpiece before people even realized it was a masterpiece. Same with Fantasia 2000 for me; both have always been my favorite movie combined! I especially agree about Toccata and Fugue; it was all abstract images sure, but I was able to detect a story from those abstract images as a child! I envisioned an enchanted musical community of magical instruments and shapes where everyone is happy. Children play volleyball and tag, the teens study in school or take their grandparents out to lunch, and the adults are boasting with parties, dances, and small get togethers, all thanks to a bumbling patrol of popsicle sticks. (And yes, I still do think they were popsicle sticks today.) All is well, until it becomes clear that there is a threat in the distance in the form of red lines. At first, the red lines manage to overthrow the popsicle stick patrol and plan a good day to destroy the town with their radioactive lasers. One problem: rockets! So the patrol hurries on a journey to find the rockets and, just before the red lines are about to commit their evil-doing, the rockets are released into space and spray a special gas that melts the red lines like ice cream cones. The enchanted boulder that controlled the red lines into their evil-doing is arrested and the town is happy again.
The process they did for the snowflake sequence is so interesting! Thank you for the great video, I'm on to part two!
@SEELE-ONE
Жыл бұрын
I always wondered how such an effect was achieved! It looks spectacular!
Fantasia is a fine wine that only gets better with age, regardless if you're considering the age of the viewer or the age of the film. Every time I watch Fantasia, I enjoy it more than the last time. In the last two years alone, I've probably watched it 4 times. Whereas in the previous 10 years I had probably only watched it twice.
this is one of my favourite movies of all time. it deserves another animated feature in modern time to introduce more classical music to a modern child audience.
I love your videos so much. It's so great to bask in Walt Disney's genius during his life compared to the sterilized (in comparison), prepackaged animations we get today. This is the foundation and backbone of his industry. I love Fantasia with all my heart as it was one of my gateways to become an artist today.
@gingerjak7928
Жыл бұрын
❤️ What an inspirational comment.
As a chlid I watched Fantasia more than any other disney film.
@erikbihari3625
Жыл бұрын
Then Disney done he's job!☺️👏
I just was rehearsing a play TODAY about Walt Disney and his relationship to the new design of Mickey Mouse for Fantasia and how it fed into his sort of identity crisis when facing the animator's strike and Art Babbitt. Of course we mention the dancing mushrooms, which Babbitt animated. There's a part where Babbitt complains "It's not about dinosaurs, it's about women!" and I sent this to the actors so they can see this point clearly, because how you actually put the footage there. This is like the best timing for a video drop ever. Thank you for making this!!!
@therewillbefudd
Жыл бұрын
That play sounds fascinating! What's the name of it? I don't know if that's an actual Art Babbitt quote, but it suits him perfectly either way. Thanks for watching and sharing, and I hope it goes well when performance time comes!
@ThirdwingLTD
Жыл бұрын
@@therewillbefudd I''m so glad you say that about Art's line cause I did have to make it up, haha. It's called "A Venomous Color: Burbank." The first part, "The Fairest," is about the women who painted Snow White losing their minds cause of no air conditioning and mandatory overtime. Again, thank you for this inspiring resource
@therewillbefudd
Жыл бұрын
@@ThirdwingLTD Oh wow! Checking out your theater's page and your shows look really cool! So you can stream them? I may have to check them out!
@ThirdwingLTD
Жыл бұрын
@@therewillbefudd thank you, thank you!!! The Fairest is gonna be available in a couple weeks, in episodes (it's sort of like Golden Girls meets Black Swan). Burbank will be streaming again after the live show closes in NYC
@therewillbefudd
Жыл бұрын
@@ThirdwingLTD Wonderful! I'm way into Disney history and I'm hoping to start working more stories about specific artists into my videos, so this is definitely my kinda thing. I'll keep an eye out for em!
Fantasia really is the definition of a film ahead of its time. Not just because it took multiple decades before it truly got the recognition it deserved but because even now, few films have had the balls to tell a subtle overarching story in the very unique way that it does. Hell, it can be argued that there truly is no other film like it, not even its own sequel (as much as I love that film as well on its own merits)!
"Fantasia is a work of art that demands to be examined closely". That pretty much sums up why I love it. I love most art where the creator put in enough effort to leave something for you to find when you dig deeply. That art where a high school or college English essay isnt wasted trying to find stuff that isnt there to find. There were a few bits of your video essay that were not my interpretation or maybe felt like a bit of a stretch, but overall, you nailed it. Disney clearly cares about this, so much more than any of the other similar music and animation works.
He's back!
Fantasia was always my favourite Disney movie, even as a kid. I decorated the VHS case with all my favourite stickers. There is alot in this movie that was frightening enough to hide behind the couch - but the one scene I couldn't handle due to how terrifying it was the earthquake and disaster scene after the dinosaurs died out. Horrifying.
Return of the King (seriously tho, ur videos are amazing and worth the wait)
This movie started my love for classical music. I loved it the first time I, at an early age , saw it!
Your analyses are so deep and so thought out. It's hard to find a KZreadr with this level of dedication to history and craft. I've enjoyed all of your videos and I look forward to the rest of them! Thank you.
Again EXTRAORDINARY. You could be giving University-level talks with your incomparable insights.
@erikbihari3625
Жыл бұрын
You're quite right my impressively inquisitive sire!
Wow, I love the connection between the apprentice and Walt himself!
Wow. Impressed by your context, explanations and analysis, and haven’t seen videos like yours before, on to part 2.
As a Disney connoisseur; your videos are fascinating! You have such a unique and interesting perspective on Walt and his work!
YES!! My fav (especially the rite of spring)!! The Schulheist notebook is a treasure of animation and SFX history. The way you describe the fusion of music and animation in The Sorcerer's Apprentice is reminiscent of YMS's analysis of the stampede scene in his Lion King review, and reinforces how powerful music is in film when applied correctly.
This came out at the perfect time, I'd just finished rewatching Fantasia a few hours ago! Thanks for giving my all time favorite movie the thoughtful analysis it deserves, despite having watched it dozens of times since I was 3 you managed to draw out parallels I had not noticed before. Now to watch part 2 🙌
@paulw6057
11 ай бұрын
It's also my favorite movie of all time but I've only watched it no more than twice, at least all the way through. I tend to wait for the perfect moment to rewatch my favorite movies/TV lest I spoil the memory. That's unless someone else wishes to watch it with me. I must have watched it as a toddler as that's the only thing that explains certain memories and impressions I have.
amazing video!! i personally have a special place in my heart for fantasia, but it was interesting to listen and kinda "fell in love with it again" thanks to you!
Fantasia was my favorite movie as an angsty teenager. I’d watch it after bad days, good days, even during studying. It’s my greatest comfort. My favorite part of the film is the trumpet solo of the white flower, it’s so beautiful and makes me hold my breath
This is my favorite Disney movie and might be my favorite movie of all time. It was my favorite since I was about five.
This has for more than a half-century and probably will remain my favorite Disney animation. I never understood the haters of this film or its initial commercial failure except that perhaps the 1960s when I saw it was a potently creative time not encumbered by the morass of conservatism across the American culture that existed before and after. Let's hope for a renaissance.
Fantasia is one of my favourite Disney movies! The music and animation go together so well. I have heard many stories about how the special effects were created, but never the one about the snow flakes. Walt really put quality over efficiency, and it shows in every movie he has supervised, especially in Snow White and Fantasia. Thanks for your analysis and interpretation of the movie! It's interesting how others percieve the segments of the movie without an obvious story.
3:57 Megamind: PRESENTATION!!!
The one thing I hate about Disney’s remastered versions of their old films is that they changed the colors of everything, which is especially prevalent in the Toccata and Fugue sequence. That’s why I still have a copy of the early 90s VHS release of Fantasia
You were preaching to the choir talking to me. "Fantasia" became my #1 animated film of all time the day I first saw it in the theater during a re-release in the 1980's. It hasn't been replaced, either. For my money, hand drawn painted cell animation has never been done better and the sheer imagination behind the individual sequences and the way they were executed were mind blowing to me. "Fantasia 2000" was a welcome continuation of the masterpiece that earned it's place in the series(I keep hoping they'll eventually do a third one(impossible since they scrapped their hand drawn animation department..I suppose they could do it CGI, but I think something would be missing if they did), and include a segment for Goofy, since Mickey and Donald got theirs. I can re-watch Fantasia at any time and immediately get enraptured with the experience. The violin bows that turn into swaying flying creatures...the elemental fairies creating dew and frost...the marching brooms...that terrifying T-Rex...the ballet with elephants, hippos, crocodiles and ostriches...the love story of two forlorn centaurs...the sheer evil of the Devil of Bald Mountain and the serenity of the pilgrimage through the woods....all immersed me in pure emotional...well...emotion! It was, is and will always be a masterpiece of the highest order.
I’m so glad you found the parallels between all the scenes! So beautiful! Thank you for shedding a new light on an old favorite!
I already love this movie pretty hard, but I'm totally here for the dissection. Something about these early Disney features stirs my soul. It isn't just that they're gorgeous to look at, although they are. The excitement of discovery, of innovation, comes through in the finished product. More recent Disney/Pixar films might have sharper screenplays, more complex themes, and more layered characters -- and I love them for that -- but the excitement, the energy of the early films isn't there. Plus, I miss the darkness. Fantasia and the other four Golden Age films weren't afraid to be terrifying at times, and I'm saying that like it's a good thing.
As a 7 year old, this was hands down my favourite movie. I watched it on a weekly basis and I couldn't understand why my friends didn’t enjoy it as much as I did.
@aiyuk.szn.2295
23 күн бұрын
bcuz its so boring i despised this as a kid
"And boy, oh boy, does [Walt deliver]." Nice.
This movie is 100% my favorite Disney. Since I was a child I always went back to see it on every release in the theater and I've owned every home theater copy of it.
Dont stop making your videos, they're amazing. Hope we really do go through all of the animated films.
@erikbihari3625
Жыл бұрын
Or at the very least, walt's original six outlined in the pinocchio video. For that, is when Disney was Disney's!
Haven’t watched yet, but man oh man am I on board with the title of this video. Ha. Fantasia is one of my top five Disney movies.
@agentcallisto
Жыл бұрын
Okay, I watched and loved it! I don’t know if the conclusions you draw about the plot of Fantasia were on purpose, but even if it was a coincidence it was an interesting premise. Thank you for showing love to some of the less current Disney movies (which happen to be most of my favorites)!
WELCOME BACK!!! I absolutely adored the fantasia movies as a kid. This marked Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy as my favorite classical piece ever, which holds through today, and I'd rewatch the Greek section over and over.
Always so excited to see an upload from you! Sad to say I skipped Fantasia when I was little cause I thought it was boring but I am definitely going to check it out now. The process of these old animations is incredible I love hearing about it.
The "walking piece of fudge" in the Bach piece is, to my eyes, clearly a coffin
This movie deserves all of the love of this world and I will defend it until the end times.
When I was little I enjoyed Fantasia the animation inlightend me and as I got older I appreciated the music the more I watched it
You literally have the best video essays! Keep up the amazing work
I am very pleasantly surprised to discover how some of the scenes were created. I always naïvely thought that the snowflakes and 'Ave Maria' scenes were just drawn frame by frame. I had no idea how much work and layering, "multi-planed" techniques were required to make them SEEM like they were effortless drawings. [Also, I never knew that Walt Disney himself was the voice of Mickey Mouse.] ...................... As you point out in "Fantasia" II, 'The Dance of the Hours' DOES act like a palate-cleanser, one i enjoyed immensely. It made me laugh out loud, especially when the hippo diva reclines on her couch and primly pulls her completely inadequate tutu over her zaftig haunches, to no avail. Sparkling visual gags throughout this segmant.
In the Little Mermaid, the villainess Ursula transforms into a giant, it was greatly influenced by Night on Bald Mountain's demon Tchabernabog!
Sometimes I want to start a KZread channel discussing Disney films and some other things. But how good you are at educating and giving your interpretations makes me feel somewhat like the Sorcerer’s apprentice getting swept away.
@therewillbefudd
Жыл бұрын
No you should! That's the opposite of what I want to achieve. I want to see your videos!
I absolutely love your videos, and they've honestly inspired me to rewatch all the old Disney movies! As a kid I never noticed little things in the animation, but now that I'm older it's incredible to see the tricks these animators had to pull in order to achieve certain effects
Quite a piece of work to be tackled and done quite well. All the work to weave the video sequences with the discussion. Quite amazing Mr. Amazing.
Great in depth analysis just as before! You deliver, man. That part about Mickey being Walt was something I never thought of before. Lovin your takes.
This is probably my favorite Disney film, its up there with Hunchback and Beauty and the Beast. I've watched it hundreds of times since I was a kid.
I already loved Fantasia, as deeply as I love any of the early Disney films. For me, it's right up there with Snow White, Bambi, Pinocchio, etc. I never needed any convincing of what a masterpiece it truly is, but I still come back to watch these essays from time to time, because they are just that good.
YES! YOU'RE BACK!!
i honestly would have never even known about the major classical music pieces if it werent for fantasia
The Nutcracker Suite was always one of my favorites 💖
Sorcerer's Apprentice and Night On Bald Mountain are MASTERFUL. These are an important landmark not only for animation but how film can surpass dialogue in place of music and image. I know that both Federico Fellini and Stanley Kubrick loved Fantasia and were influenced by it; films such as '2001 A Space Odyssey' and '8 1/2' and of course every music video ever made.
God I love your videos! I love your writing! It's beautiful and especially when you tie everything back together in an ornate pretty looking bow (that looks like it was hard to make, but it's so beautiful looking, it's worth it). I never knew about the process for animating the snowflakes. It's wild how far they went to do it. I appreciate that scene so much more now (even though I hated it since I was a kid because I thought the music was boring and not exciting enough). Also I now picture you as that cat, even if you do a face reveal, I'm going to assume you just made your human do it lol
And yet another great videoessay. You are my favourite
@erikbihari3625
Жыл бұрын
I hope if there's a chane he'll make nothing else, at least finish the six starters.
Your intro was EVERYTHING.
I LOVE this movie! Put it on in the background sometimes, but soon find myself stopping what I'm doing at a given segment and watching the whole thing as I become invested in the beauty of these two amazing art forms combined.
Oh, there he is again! 🤗 I am so excited for this one. I love Fantasia! This will a great evening...🤩
I never thought much of Fantasia, maybe because I had seen Opéra Imaginaire first and it became my all-time favorite, but now I definitely appreciate Fantasia much more, thank you!
This has always been my favorite Disney film even as a very young child (2-5). I would watch it every day at the babysitter and she even gifted me the film when I went and changed daycare because she said no other kid likes it. So, might as well go with the one that always appreciated it
Gonna watch this now... Been a long time. Great job Kevin! Uh... I mean Bill... Can't wait for part deux!
@therewillbefudd
Жыл бұрын
Thanks stranger!
My favorite Disney film, hands down.
Absolutely fantastic analysis- I’ve never seen the connection between all the pieces until now! They all mirror each other beautifully and the connecting elements between the pieces are much stronger than some of the collection films made later on in Disneys filmography (i.e. make mine music & melody time) - which I feel lots of people unfairly compare Fantasia to. Happily on my way to part two!
honestly i have never held a very distinct opinion about fantasia. but i agree that it is a theatrical masterpiece
I learned some things!
I'll be heading over to part two now, but first I would like to say this helped open my eyes to ideas regarding the film I didn't know were there before. I have always enjoyed the film, but your explanation gave me new appreciation for it.
Yees! I'm so happy to finally have gotten this video! I find Fantasia to be a work of Art and I can't wait to see what you have to say about it!
KZread didn't notify me! I'm gonna watch these videos now!
Fecking aye my favourite Disney movie that made me the most cultured-up binch on the block
@erikbihari3625
Жыл бұрын
Is culture not, about how someone cunducts themselves in society? Bragging isn't exactly an inherently appealing trait to have.
21:32 I love your modesty and self-awareness xD
Title: you are not loving fantasia hard enough Me: I have a tattoo of it, isnt that enough??
I swear this is becoming my favourite youtube channel
So worth the wait - I loved this!!!
Fantasia is one of my childhood films by Disney
your videos are so good!! already can't wait for the next one
We would watch this at my grandmother house on tape all the time because she didn’t have and other kids movies. I’m glad someone has the same viewpoint about fantasia as I do.
I already love Fantasia, it is a unique work of art by Walt Disney and his animators...just sublime
Glad to see you again, I am in the right mood for this, wich Is always if we are talking about Fantasia
I can't say I love Fantasia (I respect it even though I find it boring) but I do love your videos! I wish you could cover all the Classics in a reasonable time 😂