Famous Bodybuilders Then and Now

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  • @jwhan8615
    @jwhan86152 жыл бұрын

    I met Tom Platz in the late 80's at a seminar he had at a local college. He answered all my questions about my routine and how I should change parts of it. Super nice guy.

  • @andrewwestern7622

    @andrewwestern7622

    2 жыл бұрын

    A guy who I worked alongside knew Tom Platz personally Tom in the day lived in Otley or Ilkley, wished I could have met the man.

  • @steroidsR4losers

    @steroidsR4losers

    Жыл бұрын

    We see how FAKE these STEROID users REALLY are when they finally can't take their STEROIDS because they got ARRESTED/in PRISON or the doctors tell them to come off because of health PROBLEMS...there goes those FAKE STEROID muscles they been HIDING behind! ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

  • @captainprairie5790

    @captainprairie5790

    Жыл бұрын

    I met him around the same time period at my first bodybuilding competition. He was a great guy! It would be cool to meet him again.

  • @_Only_Zuul

    @_Only_Zuul

    Жыл бұрын

    i met and have a photo with him and he signed my schiek belt that i have for sale..

  • @357SWAGNUM_MAGA_X

    @357SWAGNUM_MAGA_X

    Жыл бұрын

    It seems he loves working with people and helping them , what a good bloke !

  • @ZoomZoom-ng6sn
    @ZoomZoom-ng6sn Жыл бұрын

    Frank Zane had the healthiest look even during his prime. He looked like the type of bodybuilder who can climb, run, and hike with speed and endurance. Others looked too big and slow with a lot of limitations.

  • @straywolf77

    @straywolf77

    Жыл бұрын

    Exactly. I always admired Frank Zane the most. A truly natural physique that, as we saw, can last a lifetime.

  • @phildemetriou440

    @phildemetriou440

    Жыл бұрын

    Still the only ectomorph body type to win the Olympia title if l'm not mistaken.

  • @ilovetyraandnaomi

    @ilovetyraandnaomi

    Жыл бұрын

    @@straywolf77 natural?

  • @tslateone

    @tslateone

    Жыл бұрын

    @@joshuadoidge237 One of the few of his era that definitely did not take steroids, period. His physique, writings and stance against drugs back then is history. If he had done steroids he would have been far, far bigger. You don't know what you're talking about.

  • @glywnniswells9480

    @glywnniswells9480

    Жыл бұрын

    100%agree if a guy rocked up at the beach like that today it would still seriously turn heads

  • @curtismills303
    @curtismills303 Жыл бұрын

    Both Lou and Frank brought class to the body building field. Excellent examples, both of them.

  • @1nvisible1

    @1nvisible1

    Жыл бұрын

    *Tom Platz! Only one that looks the same plus he's still alive unlike many!*

  • @pauladautremont1728

    @pauladautremont1728

    Жыл бұрын

    Lou is one of the nicest people I have ever met.

  • @chrisphillips348

    @chrisphillips348

    Жыл бұрын

    You can always tell bodybuilders who compete virtually clean as the look the same at 50 and 70 as the did in their heyday! Like Zane, Reg Park and Surge Nubret who actually looked better at 70, than at his so called peak!!

  • @chrisphillips348

    @chrisphillips348

    Жыл бұрын

    Zane looks identical At 50 at 70, and so did Chris Dickerson. Ed Corney, and Dennis Tinnererino, Bill Grant, and recently Kevin Levrone at 55!!

  • @M0v3rsandSh00t3rs

    @M0v3rsandSh00t3rs

    Жыл бұрын

    Boxers cut weight the same to make weight but keep strength at w/e weight they’re cutting from, but rehydrate right after weigh in for the fight

  • @airsoftsniperm40a33
    @airsoftsniperm40a33 Жыл бұрын

    The Quadfather was, and still is an unstoppable force. 😎

  • @TheEcono
    @TheEcono2 жыл бұрын

    Impressive at first but so many injuries and all that pain later on when you're older ... Ouch ... yoga is cool.

  • @fn-falco4428

    @fn-falco4428

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have RFA (Ring Fit Adventure) and i always do yoga.

  • @alexandertroydearman8173

    @alexandertroydearman8173

    2 жыл бұрын

    Actually a good comment ...yoga is cool

  • @terrancekayton007

    @terrancekayton007

    2 жыл бұрын

    True. But I bet they wouldn’t take any of it back for anything the world.

  • @niasp5181

    @niasp5181

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have a most pre school sports event wins

  • @papag123

    @papag123

    2 жыл бұрын

    #mychoice buddy ✌️

  • @gregnixon1296
    @gregnixon12962 жыл бұрын

    I idolized these guys in my youth, but then slowly, I learned their gains weren’t natural, and my admiration waned. Still, they inspired me to push myself in the gym.

  • @user-zn1bm7ll1x

    @user-zn1bm7ll1x

    3 ай бұрын

    That's great but I feel like it discouraged alot of kids at the same time myself included, I feel bad for any Natural lifters that look to these Clowns for Health of Fitness advice.

  • @ct6852

    @ct6852

    2 ай бұрын

    It's a shit ton of work regardless of outside help. The hormones just accelerate the progress...or make more progress possible. But they should've been honest about the chemicals from the get.

  • @zysis
    @zysis Жыл бұрын

    As an artist I used to study these guys intensely for modeling used in my work. I always used to find myself using Arnold and Frank Zane simply because they looked very proportionate. Arnold in his early years is immaculate in that regard. I would never say perfectly proportioned but he knew what he was doing and worked damn hard to get a very balanced look. Frank has that same type where abs aren't a mess and his lats don't make his arms push out to make him look like a plush toy. Great respect for all of these people and I certainly appreciate the work they put in.

  • @slickchick5811

    @slickchick5811

    10 ай бұрын

    perfect has no meaning as it's subjective

  • @patrickkylaba-xo5gw

    @patrickkylaba-xo5gw

    5 ай бұрын

    Lol

  • @alane3983
    @alane3983 Жыл бұрын

    Frank Zane was my icon and the person I most aspired to emulate, body building wise. He looked down right regular at 81. I guess there really is no escaping time, even for super men.

  • @TK0808

    @TK0808

    Жыл бұрын

    He probably had to give up steroid use then or he would die. I think he used low dose all the time. Smarter than the rest.

  • @marktheelf53

    @marktheelf53

    Жыл бұрын

    The perfect mix between force and agility..he could be a runner, a boxer or a model...with the same elegance! Icon of proportions!

  • @Rhaspun

    @Rhaspun

    Жыл бұрын

    @Swiss Samson Look at Hershey Walker the former football player. I saw some photos of him working out when he was in the gym trying to learn mix martial arts. He wanted to try and compete when he was in his early 50s. He was still ripped.

  • @RaniaIsAwesome

    @RaniaIsAwesome

    10 ай бұрын

    Remember that all those steroids over the years would have shut down his natural production, so he's in a substantial testosterone deficit at this point compared to what he would be if he was always natural. They also would have done a lot to his heart and organs that may be weaker now and it's hard to get an anabolic reaction. So I think that even at 80 a man can still be strong, active, mobile and even a little aesthetic and then in the next few years reach their final resting place with full dignity. Noone lives forever I'm afraid.

  • @steroidsR4losers

    @steroidsR4losers

    5 ай бұрын

    Frank Zane FAKE STEROID muscles just like the rest of them! Stay natural buddy!

  • @ryandubyah2345
    @ryandubyah23452 жыл бұрын

    HUGE respect to those on this video who bounced back after bodybuilding and are/were in great shape and health in their later years.

  • @billbaxter3800
    @billbaxter38002 жыл бұрын

    I grew up in the 80s and I remember ALL these guys! Im very happy to see most doing well! A real inspiration. I still quote ronnie Coleman all the time: "Everybody wanna be big but don't nobody wanna lift no heavy-ass weights"!

  • @roarbertbearatheon8565

    @roarbertbearatheon8565

    2 жыл бұрын

    In all my years nothing has proven to be more correct than that quote from Ronnie

  • @DiabetixDude14

    @DiabetixDude14

    2 жыл бұрын

    aint nothing to it...but to do it....lightweight... nothin' but a peanut

  • @rangerwhite5165

    @rangerwhite5165

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, was a teen just starting out in this in the 80s. Does everything ache with you now? lol.

  • @HegelsOwl

    @HegelsOwl

    Жыл бұрын

    Be sure to follow Ronnie's advice if you want to end-up with expensive injuries. The advice of doctors is far better.

  • @steroidsR4losers

    @steroidsR4losers

    Жыл бұрын

    We see how FAKE these STEROID users REALLY are when they finally can't take their STEROIDS because they got ARRESTED/in PRISON or the doctors tell them to come off because of health PROBLEMS...there goes those FAKE STEROID muscles they been HIDING behind! ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

  • @tiaturnbullchampionscoachi9587
    @tiaturnbullchampionscoachi958710 ай бұрын

    Thank you for keeping it positive. I appreciatte your classy sharing of their stories. ❤

  • @Veronika7777
    @Veronika77773 ай бұрын

    This was fascinating. Thank You, BE AMAZED Channel !!

  • @jade2708
    @jade27082 жыл бұрын

    The way they look now is unbelievable. Almost unrecognizable

  • @tishajoplin8038

    @tishajoplin8038

    2 жыл бұрын

    Bruh

  • @MarcusTraveller

    @MarcusTraveller

    2 жыл бұрын

    Haha lol

  • @LOOFAHRIGGNO

    @LOOFAHRIGGNO

    2 жыл бұрын

    Aging is definitely a bitch

  • @userxyz783

    @userxyz783

    2 ай бұрын

    Once you abuse anabolic steroids your testicles lose their natural function and cannot produce androgen anymore.

  • @random_posts8686
    @random_posts86862 жыл бұрын

    I love ur vids:D they make my day so keep it up!!!

  • @jayamansinghani3118
    @jayamansinghani3118 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing Awesome video !The Natural,Famous body builders Then n Now.Inspiring whole world .Respect ,proud,love always.power heavy workout .Power success👏👏👏

  • @WardoUSA
    @WardoUSA Жыл бұрын

    I am glad to see this video was truthful. As a longtime bodybuilding fan and a fan of this channel, thank you for providing real information.

  • @swordsmenplayz6457
    @swordsmenplayz64572 жыл бұрын

    these videos are always epic. Keep up!

  • @neutthehuman9029
    @neutthehuman90292 жыл бұрын

    Great video, especially the commentary, i was expecting the “Now” segment to be brutal, you were on a super tasteful level with your humor. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

  • @DJMTRAXXX
    @DJMTRAXXX7 ай бұрын

    Great video!! 💪

  • @glbernini0
    @glbernini0 Жыл бұрын

    Just being alive after several decades is impressive!

  • @bigdeal6852
    @bigdeal68522 жыл бұрын

    I ALWAYS admired Frank Zane the most ! I personally believe him to be one of the most....if not the most finest Specimens in the Bodybuilding world ! (It wasn't just about bulk but symmetry and he had it...along with posing) My uncle my Dad's twin brother (RIP) reminded me a lot of Frank Zane !! He even won in the Mr. L.A. tournament ! Also I grew up reading my dad's and uncles "old" bodybuilding magazines and admired guys like Bill Pearl...Steve Reeves...Gordon Scott...John Grimeck and of course Jack Lalane. Then later (my generation) Franco Columbu.... Arnold Schwarzenegger....Lou Ferrigno and of course Frank Zane my favorite. Last but NOT least Sly Stallone looks absolutely great especially for his age even though he never competed he always looked good. P.S. For bulk and muscle and just the great look of it all....Lee Haney...Dorian Yates and Jay Cutler had it ! Mr. Olympias in their own right.

  • @jimmysapien9961

    @jimmysapien9961

    2 жыл бұрын

    I Agree

  • @steroidsR4losers

    @steroidsR4losers

    2 жыл бұрын

    The ROIDER'S plan book: 1. HIDE the STEROID use. Don't ever bring up STEROIDS. LIE & DENY their use when asked. If that doesn't work, go to plan 2. 2. DOWNPLAY STEROIDS. Tell people STEROIDS doesn't do anything. If that doesn't work, go to plan 3. 3. COMPARE STEROIDS to other UNHEALTHY things ie. ALCOHOL, CIGARETTES, ETC... "Try" and JUSTIFY using them. If that doesn't work, go to plan 4. 4. Call them names & CURSE at them. Even if you admit to using STEROIDS, you still have FAKE muscles and FAKE strength! Stay natural buddy!

  • @nikicarrie4071

    @nikicarrie4071

    2 жыл бұрын

    🙏🏽❤️

  • @JESUSCHRIST-ONLYWAYTOHEAVEN

    @JESUSCHRIST-ONLYWAYTOHEAVEN

    2 жыл бұрын

    JESUS KNOCKS ON YOUR HEART AND LONGS FOR YOU TO ANSWER! HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE PERISH INTO HELL. GOD LOVES YOU SO HE GIVES YOU FREE WILL AND A CHOICE TO ACCEPT HIM OR REJECT HIM. TO LOVE HIM OR TO LOVE SIN/THIS WORLD. CALL UPON JESUS & ASK HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS! SURRENDER YOUR WILL & YOUR LIFE TO HIM AND HE WILL GIVE YOU ETERNAL LIFE IN HEAVEN! PICTURE YOUR BEST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HEAVEN! NOW PICTURE YOUR WORST DAY ON EARTH TIMES A BILLION FOR ETERNITY, THAT'S HELL! HE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT YOU WANT IF YOU REJECT HIM, TOTAL SEPARATION FROM HIM & HIS BLESSINGS (LOVE, PEACE, JOY, HOPE, REST, ETC). IN HELL YOU WILL BE ALONE, YOU WILL BE HOPELESS, YOU WILL BE IN DESPAIR & AGONY FOREVER! GOD'S STANDARD FOR HEAVEN IS PERFECTION AND ONLY JESUS (THE SON OF GOD, GOD IN THE FLESH) LIVED THAT PERFECT LIFE AND LAID DOWN HIS LIFE AS AN OFFERING FOR ALL PEOPLE'S SINS! YOU CAN CHOOSE TO REJECT JESUS' GIFT & PAY FOR YOUR OWN SIN WITH DEATH (HELL) BUT THAT SEEMS PRETTY FOOLISH! GOD SEES & HEARS EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SAID & DONE. YOU WONT WIN AN ARGUMENT ON JUDGEMENT DAY & YOU CANT DEFEND ANY OF YOUR SINS. WE'RE ALL GUILTY WITHOUT ACCEPTING JESUS' SACRIFICE FOR OUR SINS! MUHAMMAD DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, BUDDHA DIDN'T DIE FOR YOUR SINS, NO PASTOR/PRIEST/MARY OR SAINT DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO IDOLS OR FALSE GODS DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ACTOR OR CELEBRITY DIED FOR YOUR SINS, NO ATHLETE OR POLITICIAN DIED FOR YOUR SINS! JESUS CHRIST ALONE DIED FOR YOUR SINS & WAS RESURRECTED FROM THE GRAVE! HE IS ALIVE & COMING BACK SOON WITH JUDGEMENT! PREPARE YOURSELVES! IT'S NOT ABOUT RELIGION, TITHING, CHURCH... IT STARTS WITH ASKING HIM TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS & INVITING HIM INTO YOUR HEART/LIFE, SURRENDER ALL TO HIM! IT'S ABOUT A RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR CREATOR, DONT WAIT TO CRY OUT! NO ONE IS PROMISED TOMORROW! HE LONGS FOR YOU TO INVITE HIM IN, HE LOVES YOU MORE THAN ANY PERSON EVER COULD, HE CREATED YOU! Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."-John 14:6 "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."-Matthew 10:33 “For the wages of sin is death (hell), but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord”-Romans 6:23

  • @steroidsR4losers

    @steroidsR4losers

    2 жыл бұрын

    We see how FAKE these STEROID users REALLY are when they finally can't take their STEROIDS because they got ARRESTED/in PRISON or the doctors tell them to come off because of health PROBLEMS...there goes those FAKE STEROID muscles they been HIDING behind! ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

  • @mofo7689
    @mofo76892 жыл бұрын

    The smartest thing I ever heard Frank Zane say was to make a light weight as heavy as possible. That is the reason why I keep the weight low striving for form and control.

  • @kevinu6004

    @kevinu6004

    2 жыл бұрын

    Time under tension, slow & control

  • @gregnixon1296

    @gregnixon1296

    2 жыл бұрын

    This is pure gold. Young guys in the gym want to incline 300 for sets. Not the way to go for longevity.

  • @biggieyorke8415
    @biggieyorke84155 ай бұрын

    Great to see all those featured in this video.And thanks for sharing their stories.

  • @laurantsmccloskey5927
    @laurantsmccloskey59272 жыл бұрын

    Always appreciated flex wheelers physique out of all the top bodybuilders. That sucks about his leg, but he definitely has a never quit attitude & tons of drive.

  • @modlsuper
    @modlsuper2 жыл бұрын

    The one who loses his leg, and he continued exercise and doing things he loves All love and respect for him 🌟🙏

  • @jonvia
    @jonvia6 ай бұрын

    I loved Lou on King Of Queens. He was the perfect casting for a 'next door neighbor' character.

  • @effinef
    @effinef Жыл бұрын

    What dry sarcasm!! Your style rocks, Man. Thank you

  • @tomkirkemo5241
    @tomkirkemo52412 жыл бұрын

    Frank Zane was amazing!! I remember he was one of the reasons I started training at the age of 13...now I'm like 50....and the age haven't been that kind to me. :)

  • @celestesalazar5715

    @celestesalazar5715

    2 жыл бұрын

    Heheh

  • @celestesalazar5715

    @celestesalazar5715

    2 жыл бұрын

    I just hope you haven’t given up on exercise

  • @celestesalazar5715

    @celestesalazar5715

    2 жыл бұрын

    None of these men and woman did I ever even know but I just know that my inspiration to exercise was to achieve my life goals 😊

  • @frankwoods4532

    @frankwoods4532

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'm willing to bet that you still look better than most.

  • @TheGripMuse

    @TheGripMuse

    2 жыл бұрын

    Frank Zane had the help of anabolic remember that when comparing your physique to those guys .

  • @danechristmas6570
    @danechristmas65702 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for posting.. I saw some of my favorite motivators from my days at the gym..Cutler, Coleman, Zane, and Platz..But Ronnie, ( light weights baby!! lol) was definitely a beast with the weights. I absolutely love lifting, but now over 50, I've decided that just keeping fit and lean is a good enough look for me..No no more crazy diets, enhancers, and heavy arse irons for me! lol.

  • @rottweilerfun9520

    @rottweilerfun9520

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here. I used to lift super heavy , I'm paying for it now. Just being fit is good enough these days.

  • @antoineb2409

    @antoineb2409

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, hitting the 50's is an eye-opener lol High reps now and slow movements. I'm content with bench pressing 225 lbs for 15 reps

  • @yoshimiitsubdo2358
    @yoshimiitsubdo2358 Жыл бұрын

    What aamazing work You did, didnt saw single video on KZread about bodybuilding with Such a detailed stuff. Im curious what is on channel lso. Im subscribe and like. All best

  • @lucpapillon4879
    @lucpapillon4879 Жыл бұрын

    Frank Zane what a man! Healthy and probably (almost) natural that’s why he looked so good for long 👍.

  • @zadull1805
    @zadull18052 жыл бұрын

    When he said “I’m less than half that age” I remembered that he’s an actual human

  • @Eronaape

    @Eronaape

    2 жыл бұрын

    For real 🤣🤣

  • @lynnstringini6233

    @lynnstringini6233

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too, it was weird lol

  • @angryaromatisse1801

    @angryaromatisse1801

    2 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @lazarus30001
    @lazarus300012 жыл бұрын

    Lou Ferrigno was and has been my inspiration to push myself in the gym and to be the best athlete I can be.

  • @steroidsR4losers

    @steroidsR4losers

    2 жыл бұрын

    Steroid users are like little kids wearing a costume and wanting you to believe it's really them! If you don't go along with it, they throw a tantrum! Stay natural buddy!

  • @marraduse2519

    @marraduse2519

    Жыл бұрын

    Lou inspired me too. I had a near life-size Hulk poster of him on my bedroom wall as a kid. It was a shame he was at the top at the same time as Arnie because obviously that was the only reason he won so few tournaments.

  • @biggusdickus5986

    @biggusdickus5986

    Ай бұрын

    Clint Walker, looked far better than any of these without steroids

  • @genisedavis527
    @genisedavis5273 ай бұрын

    This motivated me, been working ouf 2 weeks 😊

  • @jontodd5462
    @jontodd5462 Жыл бұрын

    They put in incredibly hard work . Say what you want but I admire them immensely

  • @andrewgarcia4330
    @andrewgarcia43302 жыл бұрын

    This was great. in my opinion Bob Paris at his best, is what I would want to look like as a bodybuilder. Thanks for the post.

  • @RichardMcWolff
    @RichardMcWolff2 жыл бұрын

    Glad you gave Frank Zane and Bob Paris some love, last two on the list but glad they were there. My two favs besides Franko Columbo (which you didn't showcase but was in a few of the pose downs with Arnie)

  • @wakethebarbarian4577

    @wakethebarbarian4577

    6 ай бұрын

    RIP Franco. Incredible physique. He was the strongest man who has ever lived. Passed away at the ripe old age of 78.

  • @ericmsandoval
    @ericmsandoval8 ай бұрын

    Can’t believe Franko Columbu or Robby Robinson weren’t in there

  • @wayne6859
    @wayne6859 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent compilation

  • @LK-bz9sk
    @LK-bz9sk2 жыл бұрын

    Zane always took care of himself. Dorian. So incredibly cerebral and spiritual. Platz. So effervescent and upbeat in interviews……almost all these guys have at least one enduring attribute beyond physique that impresses me.

  • @steroidsR4losers

    @steroidsR4losers

    2 жыл бұрын

    Steroid users are like little kids wearing a costume and wanting you to believe it's really them! If you don't go along with it, they throw a tantrum! Stay natural buddy!

  • @lennyross2813
    @lennyross28132 жыл бұрын

    Frank Zane was the man! When bodybuilding was more about symmetry than bulk.

  • @cooper482011

    @cooper482011

    2 жыл бұрын

    So true

  • @dr.ohhimark174

    @dr.ohhimark174

    2 жыл бұрын

    Small.

  • @noel478

    @noel478

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dr.ohhimark174 aesthetic.

  • @dr.ohhimark174

    @dr.ohhimark174

    Жыл бұрын

    @@noel478 Small.

  • @HumanGorillaHormone

    @HumanGorillaHormone

    3 күн бұрын

    Way too small.

  • @kevinmccarthy8746
    @kevinmccarthy87467 ай бұрын

    HEY, I am glad you did a respectful take on on Arnold. Very good, very good.

  • @cindikachnic2068
    @cindikachnic2068 Жыл бұрын

    Enjoyed watching this.. 😊

  • @nooberto1398
    @nooberto13982 жыл бұрын

    Dang Arnold's physique despite his age is still incredible

  • @pica2352

    @pica2352

    2 жыл бұрын

    @nooberto13 we almost look the same

  • @nooberto1398

    @nooberto1398

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@pica2352 :0 lololol 2 yellow dudes with a non-emotion face

  • @Jesusprayerwarriorbw

    @Jesusprayerwarriorbw

    2 жыл бұрын

    They mostly are right! Dam, I have no excuses

  • @yellow3777

    @yellow3777

    2 жыл бұрын

    Mind if I join the gang ?

  • @zaqu_and_lio_gaming7272

    @zaqu_and_lio_gaming7272

    2 жыл бұрын

    wtf two nooberto or pica idk

  • @Mozes316
    @Mozes3162 жыл бұрын

    All these older dudes for the most part look f'ing amazing. Granted, I'd never want to be so huge, but in my old age I would be blessed to look like Arnold or Lou.

  • @steveharris7189
    @steveharris7189 Жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @Corbots80
    @Corbots804 ай бұрын

    Great video. Really enjoyed it. It seem like the body builders that actually cared about their health, are doing ok after their careers. Their careers being very bad on their health. With the drugs that they take and extremes that they go to.

  • @grammybear4226
    @grammybear42262 жыл бұрын

    🐼 Big Bear Hugs from a 68 yr old grandma in Kirby, Texas, USA 🐼 ❤️ 🎀 ❤️ 🎀 ❤️ 🎀

  • @R.DeMora
    @R.DeMora2 жыл бұрын

    "He admitted to using steroids..." They ALL use steroids.

  • @TheBenjaman

    @TheBenjaman

    2 жыл бұрын

    And pretty much all bodybuilders still do to this day. This video makes it sound like bodybuilders are all natural like?? No

  • @laurapalmerTDGE

    @laurapalmerTDGE

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@TheBenjaman - As natty as a Kardashian.

  • @D1LF-L0V3R
    @D1LF-L0V3R6 ай бұрын

    I am just shocked to see how all these bodybuilders still look amazing till today! It’s so cool!

  • @Jesusprayerwarriorbw
    @Jesusprayerwarriorbw2 жыл бұрын

    Love Lou. Such a nice guy!

  • @rapunzeliligan7399
    @rapunzeliligan73992 жыл бұрын

    Arnold at 74 still looks good.

  • @jimmysapien9961

    @jimmysapien9961

    2 жыл бұрын

    You do Too ❤️❤️❤️

  • @cooper482011

    @cooper482011

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jimmysapien9961 Somebody’s thirsty😛

  • @SelzYT

    @SelzYT

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cooper482011 🤣🤣

  • @darrylaustin9048
    @darrylaustin904810 ай бұрын

    Sergio Oliva and Bertil Fox were the epitome of bodybuilding

  • @mr.logicpants2835
    @mr.logicpants2835 Жыл бұрын

    I live in Las Vegas and I often see Jay Cutler at my local grocery store. He is still HUGE.

  • @KK-wt1te
    @KK-wt1te2 жыл бұрын

    Dorian Yates is a very interesting guy. Pretty inspirational too. There are some good documentaries on him.

  • @donall5302

    @donall5302

    2 жыл бұрын

    Based Dorian ⚡⚡

  • @barryjackson1401

    @barryjackson1401

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hes got the old school stoicness thats been lost.

  • @steroidsR4losers

    @steroidsR4losers

    2 жыл бұрын

    We are RUINING the ROIDER'S & STEROID DEFENDER'S FANTASY! Let's continue to EXPOSE them! They want to walk around with their FAKE STEROID muscles acting like they "worked harder" than everyone else! I don't get all excited over these STEROID FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

  • @lootom2673

    @lootom2673

    2 жыл бұрын

    Big time Holocaust denier tho.

  • @steroidsR4losers

    @steroidsR4losers

    2 жыл бұрын

    Take away the STEROIDS and watch as the FAKE STEROID muscles WITHER away! ROIDERS are FAKES! Stay natural buddy!

  • @Riogi
    @Riogi2 жыл бұрын

    Frank Zane is incredible! He is pushing 80 and still looks great!

  • @charlesvella9597

    @charlesvella9597

    2 жыл бұрын

    Arnold was always listed at 6 ft 2... He is NOT... Arnold is just under 6 ft tall.

  • @ToolNin49ersGuy

    @ToolNin49ersGuy

    Жыл бұрын

    @@charlesvella9597 Now he is...but we shrink in height as we age and get older. Back in his competition days, he was 6'2

  • @glen7137

    @glen7137

    9 ай бұрын

    @@ToolNin49ersGuy Young Arnold was 6 foot 2 he's around 6'0 to 6'1 now

  • @nancyrea3863
    @nancyrea3863 Жыл бұрын

    Never thought these bodies looked good, but the discipline it takes to do this is amazing

  • @jonathanfunnell4167
    @jonathanfunnell4167 Жыл бұрын

    LOVE BODYBUILDING WITH ALL MY HEART

  • @gwillis9797
    @gwillis97972 жыл бұрын

    Time is a humbler. We have so little of it but waste so much of it.

  • @ThatMSMKid
    @ThatMSMKid2 жыл бұрын

    These 3 people who have done all these things to improve this channel is amazing. They had to find all these cool facts and stories.

  • @user-cp2yl2vt5h
    @user-cp2yl2vt5h2 ай бұрын

    Good Stuff !!!

  • @nocillis
    @nocillis Жыл бұрын

    22:28 Like Tom, I too had FSGS (Focal Segmental GlomeruloSclerosis) and my first and only transplanted kidney is doing very well for 8 years now, and it good to see Tom is doing very well too. Sometimes it feels like im living with a grenade inside me, but then i remember the family and the person that made their choice to donate their organs, and so i am greatful of another chance...plus its great to be able to drink lots of water, and to relieve my full bladder :D

  • @marxmaxmuscle1
    @marxmaxmuscle12 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite channels, one of my favorite subjects! Thanx for the content!

  • @ajaysuresh1240

    @ajaysuresh1240

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Marx

  • @marxmaxmuscle1

    @marxmaxmuscle1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ajaysuresh1240 hey Ajay, how are you

  • @ajaysuresh1240

    @ajaysuresh1240

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marxmaxmuscle1 love your content man. Any new comparison video coming? moreover love that funny commentary and impression 😂

  • @ajaysuresh1240

    @ajaysuresh1240

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@marxmaxmuscle1 I'm good 😊

  • @marxmaxmuscle1

    @marxmaxmuscle1

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@ajaysuresh1240 I am woring on a masters olympia video at the moment

  • @earlcheatham9152
    @earlcheatham91522 жыл бұрын

    I love all of them..other than using gear to inhance my body for training and competing, their lifestyle and eating habits shaped me as I grew up from my 20s to present..God bless all the warriors and worrioretts.

  • @LoyalToEden

    @LoyalToEden

    2 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree !!

  • @kickbonzo1765
    @kickbonzo1765Ай бұрын

    I spent many a years with most of those guys and ladies back then. Not only was I a bodybuilder too and continue still am at 70 years, but also a trainer/nutritionist to many and owner of Matrix Nutrition Supplements co. then. I used to sponsor many shows, and athletes too. Although I have always been and stayed a natural bodybuilder; 218 LB off season and 190 LB contest day, yet I can still admire the commitment and extremely hard work, especially come time for contest prep of those real-professional athletes using anabolic and/or others. Their dedication is above and beyond to what someone outside of that world could ever conceive and/or endure! I miss those times and many of those hard working athletes. When your in that zone of body transformation, its a high only those doing it can only grin and cant wait for tomorrow and do it again! R.I.P. to some of those brothers and sisters. 😢

  • @paulsupronojr.4976
    @paulsupronojr.4976 Жыл бұрын

    My Heath Class instructor competed against Arnold when I was in 8th grade. His name . . . was Mike Katz. 🇺🇲

  • @quantumpotential7639

    @quantumpotential7639

    2 ай бұрын

    Did you ever hang off of his biceps like a swing? If so did he say "daddy got a big muscle?"

  • @HumanGorillaHormone

    @HumanGorillaHormone

    3 күн бұрын

    Cool story except Mike Katz never competed versus Arnold

  • @Stephen_a.p
    @Stephen_a.p2 жыл бұрын

    As an ardent fan of bodybuilding, I was only impressed by Bob Paris and Dr. Frank Zane, symmetrical body and artistic posing ability

  • @spec24

    @spec24

    2 жыл бұрын

    "Doctor" Frank Zane? What planet do you live on? Zane's no doctor, not even in the academic sense. A master's degree does no bestow the title of Doctor on anyone.

  • @roarbertbearatheon8565

    @roarbertbearatheon8565

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@spec24 Strictly speaking you don't need a degree to be considered a doctor. I figure in terms of body building, Dr Zane qualifies

  • @kat3871

    @kat3871

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@roarbertbearatheon8565 Strictly speaking, you do need a Ph.D in order to be legally called a doctor. Are you just joking around?

  • @roarbertbearatheon8565

    @roarbertbearatheon8565

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kat3871 This is a matter of English not law. You are mistaken

  • @jacal420

    @jacal420

    Жыл бұрын

    Those two plus Lee Labrada were the best aesthetically Imo

  • @user-ts3tl8dp5s
    @user-ts3tl8dp5s2 жыл бұрын

    I always am fascinated by the creativity of the jokes and puns

  • @Anonymous_-20043
    @Anonymous_-20043 Жыл бұрын

    They are legend 💪🏻

  • @jonathanray4598
    @jonathanray45989 ай бұрын

    "THE CANDLE THAT IS LITE AT BOTH ENDS SHINES TWICE AS BRIGHT, BUT LAST HALF AS LONG".

  • @dennisny6439
    @dennisny64392 жыл бұрын

    We can both agree that body building was fascinating from the 70s to 90s. It lost it's publicity in 2000s

  • @clearfamily7488
    @clearfamily74882 жыл бұрын

    I'm proud of all those people,it let me know it's never to late to take care of myself

  • @sonnyshoup1929
    @sonnyshoup1929 Жыл бұрын

    In the early 70’s I worked at Weider Barbell Co. in Santa Monica, Ca. I met several of these guys when the came into the store. Dave Draper lived just down the street from my father’s house where I lived after my Navy enlistment.

  • @thesoldier5218
    @thesoldier5218 Жыл бұрын

    I missed Lee Haney here but this video is great!

  • @rpphoenix8253
    @rpphoenix82532 жыл бұрын

    Frank Zane was the epitome of the perfect muscular physic for a man. Arnie might be the best BB of all time but Zane was like the perfect symphony of symmetry. Close second I'll say Francis Benfatto.

  • @kiplindsay1250

    @kiplindsay1250

    2 жыл бұрын

    Zane was the ideal of what the Olympia was created for. Absolute perfect symmetry. And lord, he could pull the most insane vacuum ever.

  • @steroidsR4losers

    @steroidsR4losers

    2 жыл бұрын

    The ROIDER'S plan book: 1. HIDE the STEROID use. Don't ever bring up STEROIDS. LIE & DENY their use when asked. If that doesn't work, go to plan 2. 2. DOWNPLAY STEROIDS. Tell people STEROIDS doesn't do anything. If that doesn't work, go to plan 3. 3. COMPARE STEROIDS to other UNHEALTHY things ie. ALCOHOL, CIGARETTES, ETC... "Try" and JUSTIFY using them. If that doesn't work, go to plan 4. 4. Call them names & CURSE at them. Even if you admit to using STEROIDS, you still have FAKE muscles and FAKE strength! Stay natural buddy!

  • @richardlawson6787

    @richardlawson6787

    2 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget Steve Davis...and Steve reeves...and Vince gironda

  • @Laurikiwi

    @Laurikiwi

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good call on Benfatto, his name doesn't come up often anymore but he's up there with the best along with Paris and Darrem Charles

  • @cameronhamilton7439

    @cameronhamilton7439

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kiplindsay1250..you are right on..like the famous statute of Michelangelos David!

  • @jerexfa
    @jerexfa2 жыл бұрын

    This is so amazing I love your videos ❤️ you're literally the best channel I've come across on KZread, Keep them coming..

  • @BeAmazed

    @BeAmazed

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much 😀

  • @justawanderingtrader5074
    @justawanderingtrader5074 Жыл бұрын

    Moral of the story: Never use steroids

  • @Forsaken37
    @Forsaken37 Жыл бұрын

    After cancelling 5 ads on a raw i am automatically enable to watch this video

  • @sumitr2409
    @sumitr24092 жыл бұрын

    One thing's that common in all of them is Dedication

  • @McRemmyBaby

    @McRemmyBaby

    2 жыл бұрын

    To roids

  • @BoobarellaNippleton

    @BoobarellaNippleton

    2 ай бұрын

    Or steroids

  • @catjudo1
    @catjudo12 жыл бұрын

    I was hoping Franco Columbu would be on here. He and reruns of Conan the Barbarian were the reason I got into weight lifting.

  • @script_tester152
    @script_tester152 Жыл бұрын

    wow genial video felicitaciones a ti hermano

  • @michelvandriessche231
    @michelvandriessche23110 ай бұрын

    Frank, thanks for the holistic aproch of building a body. Freandly regards. Michel Van Driessche 1978

  • @murof0078
    @murof00782 жыл бұрын

    Gotta give theses guys the credit for the extreme dedication. I've worked out a few times in my live after January 1 for a month or two. Lol.

  • @i.6606

    @i.6606

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah for real working out is genuinely unpleasant to me I can't believe the extent to which they train. With that being said they look gross because of the steroid use.

  • @SomeoneCommenting
    @SomeoneCommenting2 жыл бұрын

    For me Frank Zane looks the best because he kept his body in a very nice natural proportion all the time. Those heavyweights look impressive in size, but they really look deformed rather than fit. Zane on the other hand looks like the guy that everybody wants to be. Even at an older age he looked awesome, something that none of the heavyweights could maintain because all that exaggerated bulk is very unnatural and difficult to keep.

  • @richardklausoj3561

    @richardklausoj3561

    Жыл бұрын

    Zane also used a lot of steroids. There are many videos of him talking about PEDs

  • @SomeoneCommenting

    @SomeoneCommenting

    Жыл бұрын

    @@richardklausoj3561 At least he was more careful with his body, maintaining nice proportions. The others just want to look like swollen toads, all deformed and unnatural, like if the sheer bulk was the goal, no matter how disproportionately unpleasant they look.

  • @memaimu
    @memaimu Жыл бұрын

    Your bendy photos are a thing of nightmares.

  • @williamfeilhauer
    @williamfeilhauer Жыл бұрын

    John Smith, you are so right, frank Zane looks like he's athletic and handsome and the nicest person you will ever know

  • @ididyermom3273
    @ididyermom32732 жыл бұрын

    My favorite was Cory Everson!! What a total knockout!! and she always will be. 💘

  • @cameronhamilton7439

    @cameronhamilton7439

    Жыл бұрын

    You know it! MY favorite Mrs olympia of all time! WOULD have been neat had she retired with Haney and 8 Mrs olympia!

  • @bluev3nom
    @bluev3nom2 жыл бұрын

    Dorian Yates was absolutely one of the best. I always admired him- abside from Arnold(Because I am 6'2 like Arnold and BB is a bit different for longer insertions points like myself). But Dorian Yates is incredible. I remember the first time I saw him and his symmetry/size I thought that was the gold standard to look like. Incredible fella. On a side note.. Zane in that last picture and 71 to 79 surprised me. Boy has his happiness changed from him till now. I never use to worry about aging or looking old, or even giving it a second thought. But boy when you reach your mid 30's you give everything second thought that you normally wouldn't. Life goes by so damn fast. Yet slow enough to make something interesting of yourself.

  • @barryjackson1401

    @barryjackson1401

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah, I know what you mean.

  • @spec24

    @spec24

    2 жыл бұрын

    One of the most poorly built bodybuilders in history and the father of the current "mass-monster" generation that has destroyed bodybuilding.

  • @bluev3nom

    @bluev3nom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@spec24 Arnold? It would of happened with or without him man. Everything is bigger faster stronger. Can't blame human desire for supremacy on one person. How we are coded. Best car. Fastest car. Nicest car. Biggest wheels. Biggest boobs. Greenest yard. Tightest pussy. Biggest dick. Biggest boat. Smoothest skin. Best job. Smartest kids. Newest phone. Biggest wedding rock. Loudest music.. the human species are silly little monkeys. One person didn't change that, that is how we are built. We are in the holy water phase in testing our limits as the human specie race evolves and experiences nuances that can category be described as exciting but pointless for evolution or necessity purposes. We are curious cats. We like to push the limits on everything. I personally like to be humbled and sit back and watch the shit show. It's fun!

  • @jking0.o121

    @jking0.o121

    2 жыл бұрын

    I feel you. I'm 34 about to be 35 this year. Used to work out hard in my teens and 20s. Let myself go for the last 7 years now I'm finally getting back into shape.

  • @bluev3nom

    @bluev3nom

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@jking0.o121 I could of wrote this myself lol. Same.

  • @MohsinExperiments
    @MohsinExperiments10 ай бұрын

    Your use of channel icon inspired me the most😅

  • @raymondlin8728
    @raymondlin8728 Жыл бұрын

    As a runner in my early 20s, I still have a runners body at my age , with gardening, hiking, walking the dog 3x a day, watching what I eat, keep myself moving all day

  • @Minibertis

    @Minibertis

    Жыл бұрын

    Que

  • @MtnBadger
    @MtnBadger2 жыл бұрын

    We liked and rooted for Arnold in my house in the 70s. I remember him giving an interview later on where they asked him if he used steroids and he said... "Of course, we all did." They also asked him about diet and if he drank milk and he responded "milk is for babies... I drink beer!" Of course, he meant "good beer" with some caloric value and "not that piss water." lol

  • @drhkleinert8241

    @drhkleinert8241

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, he allways says that he and all others uses steroids, but that 60/early 70s stuff was like vitaminpills to that chemistry the stupid Hulks use today...

  • @MtnBadger

    @MtnBadger

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@drhkleinert8241 Oh, I understand that. The synthetic hormones they use today create inhumane creatures, not "body builders." It affects their mental faculties, they become viciously addicted and lose a lot of their judgement. I see pictures some of these guys and it's repulsive and scary what they do to themselves and think it's in anyway positive. They become so inflated, they can't hardly move around and can't reach to wipe themselves, they're so distorted. You couldn't pay me enough to do that to myself. Sad. The stuff in the 70s (I new a guy who used to play for the Jets, he was strangely muscled and lost his hair early, wore a bad toupé, behavior so erratic and self-centered they tossed him off the team) was bad enough, if you didn't take regular breaks from it. Did strange stuff to you.

  • @esmee6308

    @esmee6308

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MtnBadger The sport itself has a lot of issues with it, the 'freaks' win, you want to compete, you basically have to do dangerous shit and it's getting more and more out of hand.

  • @MtnBadger

    @MtnBadger

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@esmee6308 Oh, I agree. When I was in my day, years gone by, I stood 6' 4.5"/240lbs and was in top shape. Today, I'd look like a toothpick next to those idiots... And that's a problem. There are no more "heros" for which young men to aspire, just mutated bullies. The cover of muscle magazine used to show what you could do with dedication and training, now it's an homage to modern "chemistry" (to use the word loosely) and mad scientists. If I saw my kid getting interested in that, I'd rip it out of his hands and take him to the first rugby test (match) I could find. They're the "real athletes" with heart and determination and the best overall athletes you can find (think football, soccer and wrestling, all in the same game). I played national league for 5 years and they're the best, well centered bunch of loonatics your ever gonna meet and they don't all die of rot by the time they're 55. Anyway ,I guess they're going to have to take a stand in the sport and ban chemical use in pro and armature levels with strict penalties, like baseball and other sports and have a full reset. There'll be a lot of pissed off people and the sport will suffer for a bit but, that's better than the slow, painful death it's enduring right now. It used to be about getting fit and being the best you could be, once upon a time. *R.I.P.* ..." MR. America."

  • @esmee6308

    @esmee6308

    2 жыл бұрын

    ​@@MtnBadger It seeps through in any media, recently a friend sent me a picture of the instagram dreambod (lean, very muscular, perfect lighting) and went on with how a bit of work (30-1h playing with a dumbbell at home, few times week) he could get that physique and should just stop being lazy. I'm not one the shatter dreams since he might fall in love with the positives of bodybuilding but, had I bet my life the guy wasn't natural, if he was, excellent genetics and worth-ethic for many years. But how do I convince someone when the average holywood transformation and Olympia stage look like it's possible and 'not that impressive'. For me weightlifting is about all my disabled body can handle in terms of sports and it has positive effects on me (I'm out, active, around people, eat well, sleep well, avoid bad habits.) But if my body wasn't already a wreck, who knows how enticing something would be, it's hard to think consequences if you never had to deal with them and if you're just that few % away from being the best in your region... Again a thing I'd never have to worry about, I'm lucky I can walk. :'')

  • @RichardsWorld
    @RichardsWorld2 жыл бұрын

    I highly admire and respect Dorian for his willingly do downsize after retirement. Many guys just want to keep huge until their old age and have serious health issues.

  • @steroidsR4losers

    @steroidsR4losers

    2 жыл бұрын

    Steroid users are like little kids wearing a costume and wanting you to believe it's really them! If you don't go along with it, they throw a tantrum! Stay natural buddy!

  • @charlottestreet3301

    @charlottestreet3301

    Жыл бұрын

    He probably won't be on this list but what about the wcw wrestler Scott steiner

  • @AmazingStoryDewd

    @AmazingStoryDewd

    8 ай бұрын

    Those few I know who still lift in their old age don't have health issues because of it.

  • @Red23165
    @Red231656 ай бұрын

    Hello great video those were the good old days. I’m 65 years old I realize I’m not young anymore. I back off lifting heavy like in my younger days. Took me awhile to accept things I use to do I have to use common sense. Now my goal I do cross training every day is to maintain the best I can till I leave this earth . Hats off to theses guys ❤

  • @s.k.6616
    @s.k.6616 Жыл бұрын

    The golden age is over. Frank Zane was the human statue. Perfection before the mass monsters.

  • @davidjohnson36st
    @davidjohnson36st2 жыл бұрын

    That beginning of the end montage for Pierre 😂🏋️🦵🦴👀😂

  • @bluev3nom

    @bluev3nom

    2 жыл бұрын

    I know :(

  • @ranman4481
    @ranman44812 жыл бұрын

    I met Bob Paris on the San Juan Islands back in '95-'96 or so, when he sold his personal gym equipment to a fitness club I worked for. He helped us move it in and set up. Was all custom made pieces. Interestingly, no flat bench press, and he told me he won many Championships using that equipment. Nice guy. That may have been the period in life that he officially quit bodybuilding altogether? Good to see him move on so nicely compared to some of the others here.

  • @cameronhamilton7439

    @cameronhamilton7439

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, many people may have forgotten about Bob Paris--like frank Zane had a classic physique...

  • @craigross341

    @craigross341

    Жыл бұрын

    Paris looked fantastic - probably the most aesthetic physique - but there was a *lot* of prejudice against gay folk.

  • @thinkforyourself2109

    @thinkforyourself2109

    Жыл бұрын

    I was a fan of Bob Paris back in the 80s and loved his physique. It seemed to me the best combination of size and symmetry. Rory Leidelmeyer was also impressive (and still is in his 60s).

  • @tannhauser5399

    @tannhauser5399

    Жыл бұрын

    @Ran Man - he didn't just quit like that. It was more of the issue with the Weider bros/corporation. There was plenty of info back then about him. At that time I did like him too, a good bodybuilder with a very good physique (great in fact). But I also remember articles from back then (1990s+) - that were talking about Weider(s) not liking him - just because he was a gay. Hence after tha time, he sort of disapeared after that. But personally I don't think that was just his decission. More of like was was being silently "forced" out: not being able to signing some new contracts with Weider(s), less appearance in various magazines (mareketing), less opportunities...

  • @grantbradley7881

    @grantbradley7881

    Жыл бұрын

    Hi Tomm looking at young er mags still with you ,inspirataitaion deadlift 80 kg simple ex love it guy dude

  • @rohitkadam2809
    @rohitkadam28099 ай бұрын

    Arnold, Ronnie will be remembered.even though they took anabolics...coz they were the first bodybuilder of this golden era.who took it so far..... they are simply legends of their era and will even after the die....

  • @felixdogan6776
    @felixdogan677611 ай бұрын

    Would like to see Steve Reeves too but still a beautiful vid

  • @Forgottenlostyoutuber
    @Forgottenlostyoutuber2 жыл бұрын

    Ok this guy probably spended weeks getting this information👀 let’s give him full credit!👍🏻🙏

  • @jemal.dilbirin
    @jemal.dilbirin2 жыл бұрын

    Be a great man 💪 so that he can fulfill every desire of his parents ✌😊🥰❤

  • @RE-zl7sy

    @RE-zl7sy

    2 жыл бұрын

    ???????