not excusing his behaviour whatsoever but his parents being like "oh you failed one year of grade school? hope you like 10 years of rigorous chinese opera academy" is insane and kind of explains why he's so addicted to work and making money.

@obara7366

Ай бұрын

I know the term is overused now but generational trauma go brrrrr.

@original9384

Ай бұрын

nljlnn

@KryptonitePeter

Ай бұрын

Actually they were really poor. This is why they gave him to opra.

@juamu1132

Ай бұрын

oh no that's horrible.you people are unbelivable.

@ShuraIKX

Ай бұрын

to then impose that on his own kids completely invalidates any sympathy we should have for him Sympathy should only be given to whoever breaks that cycle

That's why I always say "I like that how they sing" or "I like how they acted in that movie" instead of saying "I like that actor or singer." Because you're right, at the end of the day we don't know these people.

@lkeke35

Ай бұрын

This! I always try to make the distinction between their talent (they offer me something good to cnsume) vs who they are as people. I don't know them. Its all a persona. Its all an act.

@Neku628

Ай бұрын

Yeah, it's pretty much the point behind the saying, "Never meet your heroes." I liked Jackie Chan's character in Jackie Chan Adventures.

@deep_cuts2019

Ай бұрын

If I ever have kids, I want to teach them to not make role models out of people they don’t actually know personally. I feel lucky that I was raised not to worship celebrities

@elysiabarr425

Ай бұрын

So true, I’ve also seen people say for example they hate an actor because they played ahole in a tv or movie. I can separate the actor from the role. The actor could be nice or a ahole irl, but I don’t know because I don’t know them personally. Adam Sandler comes to mind, he plays a lot of jerks, but from what I’ve heard he’s pretty nice off camera.

@j.j.q1379

Ай бұрын

or if you do fan art or something. your not doing fan art of the actor, but of the characters because you love those characters, im a firm believer in this. and i been sating this for years.

Sad to hear Jackie Chan isn’t the hero we thought he was. It’s important to remember actors are not their characters. This was a well researched video

@thisdeath

Ай бұрын

damn i really wanna know the tl:dr of this video.. she probably did a good job and she's cool but i feel like i cant watch the whole thing.. so can you explain me in a brief way :0

@f-ingstupid4408

Ай бұрын

This literally goes for anyone, people are flawed and some more than others. Never put celebrities up on a pedal stool because they will disappoint.

@markuslizzy

Ай бұрын

nah he still my hero

@vijaz5559

Ай бұрын

@@thisdeath its not really an hour or more video. its just 20 min wth just watch it or listen to it while working

@at0mickiwi

Ай бұрын

This one hurt I looked up to him so much because my pop pop loved his work and a lot of foreign movies/art (I am a blk woman btw)

Michelle Yeoh was such an integral part of Everything Everything all at Once

@marocat4749

Ай бұрын

Thank god she is the lead role, it would be such a different movie Also the actor of her husband is great

@tasonice9148

Ай бұрын

​@@marocat4749was so happy to see him in the role! The Goonies is one of my favorite movies. I always loved him in it!

@suspiciousstar7547

Ай бұрын

She was AMAZING in that movie along with her husband and daughter. Just incredible!

@poposterous236

Ай бұрын

She's an integral part of anything she's in. Crazy Rich Asians would have been a completely different movie without her.

@funkystyle7249

Ай бұрын

No matter what Jackie Chan could never take on EEAO atleast in this universe because of the gay themes and his own personal story with his gay daughter. Plus also that China would not have allowed the film to screen in china with the gay theme, and taking this role would have made him look bad with CCP

I knew about some of this stuff (mostly the stuff w his daughter) but what I feel like really cemented his human fallibility in my mind was Michelle Yeoh calling him a male chauvinist. It’s so clear in that original interview that she’s not joking, she’s being 100% honest, and she’s not even trying to be harsh; she makes her respect for him as an experienced performer and a peer in her field clear, but it’s obvious she has no intention of not calling him out just because they’ve known each other so long (something a lot more people in those industries could stand to do!). Whenever she brings it up, the interviewers are always SO clearly uncomfortable, but she’s got so much poise in those moments. She’s careful about what she says but she’s not holding back, either. The fact that someone who knows him so well and even has some amount of affection for him can be that upfront about his behavior always spoke volumes to me.

@icravedeath.1200

Ай бұрын

Having people who don't sugarcoat your worst behaviours close to you is the greatest type of people you could have as colleagues/friends. Personally I'd fucking hate to be around a bunch of meat riding ass kissers.

@SeptonFi

Ай бұрын

Lol, Yeoh. The casting couch princess is no one to judge Jackie Chan. Ask her which communist leader's bed she warmed tonight instead of passing jealous comments about her co-stars. She's lucky that Jackie Chan has a lot more class than her and hasn't really revealed her antics behind the scenes.

@maniac50ae14

19 күн бұрын

Hes chinese, how is that even surprising? Thats like being surprised that a man born in saudi arabia is misogynistic. China is the country that calls unmarried women above a certain age "leftover women". This is why im bothered when people act like the US is the worst place social politically when most of the world lags far behind us on these issues

@danteshollowedgrounds

16 күн бұрын

Yes, yes, yes the interview from Michelle was so right on point and I love her do much.

@danteshollowedgrounds

16 күн бұрын

​@@icravedeath.1200Same, especially in these blindly fandoms that love to follow into bliss just because it's an old classical thing.

the biggest moment for me was finding out he’d purposefully humiliate his girlfriend in front of her colleagues because of his ego & spending thousands a day on his bros while two women were raising his children in a completely different continent

@duckiemomo7511

Ай бұрын

Wait this is so sad 😞 is there somewhere I can read or watch what happened with that?

@youtubehatestruthtellers8065

Ай бұрын

Ok

@Isthisjoebiden

Ай бұрын

Average male

@bigbodykarate6403

Ай бұрын

so parents cant go on vacation anymore ???? why because he is famous he is held to a different degree ?? he is still a person lol fkn weirdos

@Isthisjoebiden

Ай бұрын

@@bigbodykarate6403 no, the weird part is wanting spend thousands on other random men, and none on your family. Yall mfers be gay as hell, just go be gay! You're either actually slow or pretending to miss the point

it really sucks because jackie had such a family friendly persona i loved him so much as a kid. he was always a comfort-actor for me because of his roles that emphasized his love for children and fatherly nature. finding out the way he treated his family completely broke my parasocial image of him since my early childhood.

You’re dead on about Jackie Chan seeming goofy and harmless to Americans, who dehumanize and infantilize him due to the cheerful persona and accent. That’s what I always did anyway. I’m trying to unlearn some biases recently

@hauntedhouse_picketfence

Ай бұрын

I think that’s really great that you can recognize things about yourself or your mindset that need work. I feel similarly and am working on unlearning bias I hold as well.

@deep_cuts2019

Ай бұрын

@@hauntedhouse_picketfence hey thanks! Same to you :)

@Tenshii_Artii

Ай бұрын

Same here. I won’t deny that is exactly how I saw him, mostly for his seemingly happy and funny persona. And of course as a kid I thought he was like a hero. Because I’m Asian, And I really was proud of fictional Asian heroes. Hope we can all work through this. Wish you best of luck truly!

@deusexmachina9776

Ай бұрын

since when is seeing someone as goofy dehumanizing and infantilizing him? ironic coming from someone with your pp

@loserinasuit7880

Ай бұрын

You clearly don't know what the term infantalize means. Just because you're taken in by someone's charisma doesn't mean you're deeming them incapable of agency.

Yeah, like I was once told by my mom. Don't meet your heroes.

@poposterous236

Ай бұрын

Screw that, always meet them. Don't have heroes.

@michaelccozens

Ай бұрын

Eh, I think that's a generalization that ends-up excusing bad actors for their choices by pretending there's something inherent to their position that forces them to be awful. In reality, and while there are lots of assholes out there, both secret and not, there are also tons of thoroughly-decent people. The difference is that you don't tend to hear about the decent ones, because it's a "man bites dog" situation; where's the news in a celebrity simply living their values and being a good person? And while bad news is inherently more sensational, the fact that it does seem to be, to a degree, the exception is proof of the rule I'm implying; lots of people are generally good. It's not that surprising, when you think about it; "treat people with respect" honestly isn't that hard, and is frequently even the most self-interested strategy, particularly in longer-term aspects.

@grapeshot

Ай бұрын

@@michaelccozens yeah because most people like to generalize things. It is said don't meet your Heroes because they're humans and they'll let you down they might not mean to let you down but they will let you down because they're humans

@kimiyounasarukun

Ай бұрын

@@poposterous236No gods. No masters.

@opaljk4835

Ай бұрын

That would’ve been tough if she was your hero

Are we surprised? Most, not all celebrities, aren't good people as they have been proven to be abusers among other things. I remember he was in a relationship with Teresa Teng, who I would love for you to cover as I don't think many people have covered her. That relationship wasn't the healthiest as they had different personalities and Jackie played mind games with her. After reading that, I can't help but feel bad for Teresa. While Teresa is no longer here to share her story with him, she deserves better. People need to stop seeing these people as moral compasses.

@sunflowerlady2057

Ай бұрын

Wow, thanks for writing about her. I has no clue who she was before, I'm inspired to research her.

@Ggggg1gggg

Ай бұрын

NO WAY??? I know Teresa bc of my parents but I never knew they dated😭

@nadaniceguy-

Ай бұрын

I cant imagine that relationship being healthy at all. Teng was a Taiwanese advocate and patriot. Chan thought the whole culture was a joke.

@michaelccozens

Ай бұрын

"Most" is doing a lot of work there with very little support, and I'm concerned that making such baseless assumptions actually gives bad actors an excuse for their choices that they do not deserve. Yes, you hear about a lot of awful people, but consider the pool from which said cases are drawn; it's absolutely massive. And of course you don't hear much about the decent people, because where's the sensation in "Keanu Reeves is a good guy again today"? You're also in danger of creating the impression that being decent and treating people with respect is somehow a high or difficult bar, and it really isn't. Yes, it takes some work. No, it's not fucking rocket science or a particularly-onerous task, but dealing with the consequences of poor behaviour sure can be both. I think you should consider why you're so eager to give abusers cover in this manner, especially as it's clearly not a fact-based position.

@futurestoryteller

19 күн бұрын

@@michaelccozens You are so unbearably self-righteous that you have to scold a person who obviously agrees with everything you said. This is why we can't have nice things. The world is full of frauds.

A year ago I did a deep dive on him when news of his paternity and the inheritance he was NOT leaving his children spread. He also flung his 2 yr old across the room in a drunken stupor I was baffled. He's no different than all the other abusive, adulterous and alcoholic men in Hollywood.

@adeleaslan8182

Ай бұрын

I had no idea about his two year old. What a piece of shit

@judithteejiaen

Ай бұрын

But i guess if your a talented guy that is funny and quirky no one really looks at your wrongdoings or takes them seriously.

@sterlingmarshel6299

Ай бұрын

And men in the all over a America and the world. Hollywood is not a place

@ryss335

Ай бұрын

​@@sterlingmarshel6299lmaoo Tru, it just most men overall

@setofreakinkaiba8553

Ай бұрын

A lot of people have similar problems, the only thing different is that because they are celebrities, their lives are shown and their mistakes are shown for public scrutiny.

The irony of him being in Ninja Turtles: Mutant Mayhem which has an anti-prejudice message.

@user-pc3we6gf6j

Ай бұрын

So was Ice Cube, who is a notorious homophobe.

@bobtheball5384

Ай бұрын

That and him being an attentive father in that film- eesh.

@user-pc3we6gf6j

Ай бұрын

So is Ice Cube.

@eamonndeane587

Ай бұрын

I'm also baffled by the fact they cast a Chinese Actor to play Splinter who is Japanese. We should have had George Takei play Master Splinter.

@Dragoncam13

Ай бұрын

@@eamonndeane587nah,Andrew Koji

Since I was little, he reminded me of my Chinese dad. His smile felt so real and genuine. He could be silly and jolly. But right around the corner was his anger and cruelty. No one was allowed to disobey him.

@KhiemNguyen-ly1wz

29 күн бұрын

I think you just describe like every Asian dad ever. My own father is kinda similar

@yourcordialvermillionchapw2398

28 күн бұрын

I'm not even Asian (funnily enough though, they did say I DID look Asian as a baby and in certain moments when I was younger XD)... I know the feeling. Hang in there lads/lasses.

The story about his daughter is heartbreaking. She truly deserves better. I hope she stays stable and has people she can rely on around her. I would feel embarrassed, if my child was homeless and it was publically known that I did nothing to support her, even though I could. It also seems like Jackie hasn’t really suffered the consequences of his own misdeeds for a very long time. Like… you don’t atone for an affair by punishing the child that was born out of that affair.

@dukeheavens9990

Ай бұрын

She doesn't deserve better her Dad told her something and she didn't adhere to it so

@saamv8139

Ай бұрын

@@dukeheavens9990 gratz on not being abused by your family I guess??

@Firguy

Ай бұрын

Why do people insist that an affair is something to atone for? When I got my affair partner pregnant, I just told my wife at the time I wanted a divorce and left her to be with my AP. My ex and I worked out a custody agreement, she got remarried, and everything turned out fine. If people gave me and my new partner a hard time for our affair, I told them to suck eggs and mind their own business.

@catus-cactus

Ай бұрын

She’s not homeless. She’s living in a condo with an older woman.

@squambob

Ай бұрын

@@Firguywow I wonder why ppl think that cheating on your spouse for a fling that will last 1 year at the most and will of course end with you also being cheated on is bad

I never thought the 'nice guy' Jackie Chan could really be so devoid of empathy, but here we are. I imagine his childhood had something to do with that.

@angelaholmes8888

Ай бұрын

You could be right but having a bad childhood doesn't excuse being a horrible father

@Xx_SuperPenis_xX

Ай бұрын

@@angelaholmes8888 once a victim later creates more victims

@Isthisjoebiden

Ай бұрын

Most males are sociopaths. HOW haven't the average woman made this connection. Human history is full of violence, conquest, genocide, etc and NOT by the hands of women 95.9 percent of the time!

@Nerissadesouza

Ай бұрын

​​Right the vast majority of abusers criminals and narcissists are the way they are due shitty childhood. We can't excuse all of them and treat their victims as collateral damage. Plus there's tons of people who had unthinkable things happen in their childhood but chose to be good and protect others instead so clearly its a choice these people are making to be vile, if it wasn't then EVERYOne who went through trauma would be evil.​@@angelaholmes8888

@kingkazuma2239

20 күн бұрын

​@angelaholmes8888 his own father was barely there for him either

As a Hong Konger, it is always bewildering to see people on the internet hold Jackie Chan in such a high regard because (for us) him being a horrible PERSON has been public knowledge for years now

@Seth9809

Ай бұрын

What about Jet Li?

@tse4730

Ай бұрын

I got a lot of friends in Hong Kong, and not everybody hates him, come on now

@ChunLo21

Ай бұрын

​@@tse4730 where did i even write the word "HATE"? Or when did I "speak on behalves of HongKongers whether HongKongers like Jackie Chan or not"? You can like/dislike a person whether they are hble or not, but holding them in such high regards? That's the frustration I was trying to express. Also aren't you so cool to know SO MANY friends in HongKong that you can get informed on the general consensus? You really grinded my gear with your dumbass illiterate take. Maybe next time try to pause and think for a moment first before you try to open your stupid mouth and yap.

@ChunLo21

Ай бұрын

@@Seth9809 I think he's good at what he does in films but I don't really have any disposition towards him 'cause I feel like we don't really hear about him much

@KnarfStein

Ай бұрын

He's a CPC lapdog. Enough said.

tbh I think what really soured me on Jackie Chan in recent memory was him filming a movie in a part of war torn Syria edit: youtube won't show my replies, but luckily someone else also explained, but just in case: Syria is in an active civil war where its regime overwhelmingly targeted civilians with extensive proof of war crimes. The place where jackie chan filmed Home Operation was on top of the rubble of destroyed civilian homes of Damascus which is currently in the control of the regime.

@garaj1

Ай бұрын

Could you elaborate? I really want to know the background behind that decision

@Thayora

Ай бұрын

@@garaj1 It was for a movie about the evacuation of Chinese citizens during the Yemen war. The problem here is that he chose to film on top of the rubble of homes that were destroyed during the ongoing Syrian civil war where citizens were overwhelmingly and brutally targeted by the regime. Damascus, where the film was shot, is controlled by the dictatorship, and there is an entire industry of unethical travel vlogs trying to whitewash their war crimes.

@KathyXie

Ай бұрын

@@garaj1 Is a Chinese patriotic action film like wolf warrior, set in Yemen, filmed in a destroyed Syrian city, the film is produced by Jackie Chan, it comes out next year, there is not even an trailer yet.

@hajarmdn4883

Ай бұрын

@@garaj1yep he filmed in a warm torn part of Damascus in war torn buildings. And the movie was about the evacuation of Chinese nationals from Yemen in 2015. Another war torn country. The movie is called Home Operation

@user-ol7bt4wp1j

Ай бұрын

What exactly is the problem with that?

As an immigrant, it's always sad to see people who share the same type of struggle as you in the US not reach the standards you impose on yourself to seem worthy of living here. But that shows that you shouldn't overvalue one person as the perfect image of what an immigrant should be. I love this video!

Jackie chan is a perfect example of not fixing with whats broken, has all this money, but doesn't have the energy to spend quality time and support with his kids. Even at his age, he aint even wise. Smh

@fatimahanwaar306

Ай бұрын

true

@darrendyson8347

Ай бұрын

I agree with you but crap family like kids and wives tend to sit back and drag husbands down happens all the time in it western society. I agree if he is not trying to spend time with them divorce her but he probably doesn't want that legal trouble. It's not a man's responsibility to always deal with shyt and stick around!!

@peekaboopeekaboo1165

28 күн бұрын

Too bad for the Chinese bashers-haters . Jackie Chan continue to have large fan base around the World .

@BulletSponge71436

27 күн бұрын

It's her daughter's fault for being so dumb. No one should support these "Alphabet people", no one. Period.

@CordeliaWagner1999

23 күн бұрын

A lot of men don't spend time with their children

If more celebrities were better at making amazing animated TV shows, I'd have so many more parasocial relationships

@piplupz1586

Ай бұрын

Thank you for informing me about all of the real things happening outside of the filtered media sphere

😮 EEAAO is my favorite movie in like… ever. I cried in the theater. I can’t imagine a male lead. Michelle was phenomenal

@haileybalmer9722

Ай бұрын

So was Ke Huy Quan! I can't imagine the movie without him, and without Michelle Yeoh in the lead. I'm glad Jackie Chan said no.

@ruminationstation4200

Ай бұрын

​@@haileybalmer9722this is it for me. Ke huy playing a soft spoken optimist just trying to keep his family together works SO much better than if that had been Michelle as Jackie's wife. She's an amazing lead don't get me wrong, but I think the gender inversion of stereotypes where it's the mother who is stern and the father who is silly and accommodating and frightened works SO much better to reinforce the themes of the movie. They really stumbled into the best possible outcome.

@johnpreston230

19 күн бұрын

That movie was garbage but if you like it fine

Not taking responsibility for a child you've fathered out of wedlock is the lowest. Absolute garbage. That kid didn't ask to be born, and their life is already going to be more difficult because of the circumstance of their birth.

EXTREMELY well done video! Thoroughly researched, beautifully articulated, easy to follow. As an Asian person myself, I really wish more Asian youtubers like you would get the views and engagement you deserve. You deserve +1M subs!!!

I wonder the reason why he rejected EEAO was because of the gay themes and his own personal story with his daughter. Plus also that China would not have allowed the film to screen in china with the gay theme.

@KryptonitePeter

Ай бұрын

That shit is disgusting 🤮💩😂

@tse4730

Ай бұрын

not at all, its because Jackie was filming the movie "Ride On" at the same moment.

@funkystyle7249

Ай бұрын

@@tse4730 Ok and even if he wasn't shooting that or the directors waited for him to finish shooting, which was possible given most quick shooting in china, i still don't think he would have accepted that role because of the gay daughter theme and reality, plus we already saw the film not getting passing ccp censorship to release in china. So you think he who is a traditionalist who really likes the current government would have taken this movie? I think it was a little naive of the directors to even consider him.

@RollingCalf

Ай бұрын

That movie was so boring

@vannah3729

8 күн бұрын

@@RollingCalf that’s an opinion and a perfectly valid one to hold. Not all movies are for everyone. I personally loved it and found it very engaging and entertaining, but you are entitled to your differing opinion.

What the absolute f* was the Daniels thinking???? Making a movie about a lesbian daughter being ostracised by her family and trying to have Jackie as the lead after what he did to his lesbian daughter??? F* atrocious and unforgivable.

@shortdrink873

Ай бұрын

But they didn’t make that movie, did they. And we don’t know how much the script changed in the rewrite.

@EA-by2he

Ай бұрын

You mean daughter being disowned for being lesbian? She was already disowned before she was even born. She herself admitted that she didn't have a father and is happy with her mother but then made it seem like she had never received love from either parents since a young age and even said she grew up in abuse. Furthermore spreading the lie that she was abandoned for being lesbian, when her own mother even came out to tell her to just go to work instead of trying to have it easy using the fame of the father that she doesn't admit as her own father. I'd say she's not any better.

@lakibody

Ай бұрын

​@@EA-by2heFunny thing is the daughter still wanted money from daddy after she disowned him, i thought she wanted to be independent from his father?😅.

@nidhi2693

Ай бұрын

I don’t remember hearing her ever asking for money from Jackie. All she said was it would be nice to have a supportive dad. Obviously she’s not happy to be homeless but that doesn’t mean she’s selfish. Any homeless person would want to get out of that situation, and unfortunately, it is not easy.

@Nerissadesouza

Ай бұрын

​​@@lakibodytry being homeless for just a month. You'll see her reasoning.

I remember seeing a Conan O’Brien interview and he talked about being sent off to the opera house school ( it was promoting his book, My Life In Action) and how his parents only showed him affection after he became wealthy, not excusing anything JC has done, but no wonder he’s a bad parent.

GET HIS ASS!!!

@CheyenneLin

Ай бұрын

LOL

@Bubbles603

Ай бұрын

Lmaoooo

@treenincove1726

Ай бұрын

JACKKKKKIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!! (Ki, ki, ki) There's nothing this girl can say to make me dislike Jackie Chan. Yes, I know about some of the things people don't like him for, but honestly, NONE of those things are a big deal AT ALL. Just because someone has personal beliefs and makes mistakes in their life doesn't mean I'm going to discard them as a person. Jackie Chan is fkn awesome

@syntheticsilkwood2206

Ай бұрын

​@@treenincove1726um ok?? She was never trying to get you to dislike him Everyone decides for themselves and she is just expressing her feelings To you they might not be a big deal but for others it might be People are different yk

@zok6064

Ай бұрын

@@treenincove1726 Chill, she literally says at the end of the video that she's not trying to make anyone hate him. That said, if you think that someone who throws a 2yo child across a room out of anger is awesome, I don't ever want to meet you in person.

Nepo-Baby vs Boot-Straps. What exactly is the right thing to do when you’re a parent. Personally I feel like too many boomers want to hoard their wealth and not care about leaving things behind for their offspring. But people hate and despise nepotism and unearned money and merit.

@jamie8703

Ай бұрын

I think its a balance of pushing your kids towards independence but giving them the space to fail. I've never had a good relationship with my parents but I'm thankful that they didn't spoil me with their money and expected me to be an independent thinker and provider. That being said I want that fucking mansion and they should gimme it because I'm the special boy.

@lisahoshowsky4251

Ай бұрын

I don’t think it’s wrong to give our kids a safety net to fall back on. Yes money can lead to spoiling but so can other actions and choices. I feel like the trend of celebrities saying they’re leaving their kids nothing feels weird to me, I mean if you made an enormous fortune sure do other incredible things with it but I don’t think anyone’s going to judge you for making sure you leave enough for your kids to have a comfortable life. There’s things people can pursue only when they’re comfortable and the trend in America seems to be to no longer try to achieve security for the next generation but instead to screw them over and make them start from scratch again because they apparently had to? It’s a really weird mindset and trend that seems to becoming more common. We’re supposed to want better for the future not worse.

@jamie8703

Ай бұрын

@lisahoshowsky4251 I definitely agree. I'm planning on living with my parents so that my kids can have grandparents to rely on. Mine were pretty terrible parents, but I think they'd be fantastic grandparents. I want to give myself the space to be a whole person while also attending to their needs, and ultimately, I'm going to need a lot of help to make that happen. My parents worked constantly and didn't have anyone watching us which did make me independent but also caused a lot of other issues. I want to take the best pieces of that and do a better job.

@dollardeals01

Ай бұрын

Meh. As a parent, all you can do is give them support when they're kids and hope for the best. If they choose to waste their potential, that's on them. My money is my money. If they want a better life, they better work for it.

@millevenon5853

28 күн бұрын

​@@dollardeals01just don't have kids and save your money

Having children always makes me uncomfortable to hear, children are to be raised and parented not to be own or have.

@sunflowerlady2057

Ай бұрын

That's an interesting perspective. I agree that children aren't to be “owned” But that's interesting how you feel the phrase “having children” or have children means “ownership.”

@Moszan

Ай бұрын

​@@sunflowerlady2057 You'd be surprised how plenty of people, parent or not, think children aren't human beings worthy of decency.

@MaxIronsThird

11 күн бұрын

idk how this video showed to you that jackie wants to own his kids, he clearly wants them to do well on their own

I really loved Jackie Chan when I was a kid, he was basically my first action movie star who was approved by my mom. His movies were action packed and "kid friendly violent". Doesn't change the fact there was still violence in his movies, but at least it wasn't mindless bloodshed. To most point I wanted to say "Yes, but..." but it was internally followed up with an "Oh I see". He really is not a good person :/

@M_M_ODonnell

Ай бұрын

He's very good at the action-comedy approach, which is a tough combination for people to get right because you have to be both an action star and a physical comedian. Unfortunately, talent and skill aren't enough to make people good in their personal lives.

@shroobify

Ай бұрын

Jackie chan Burrows alot of inspiration from Buster Keaton. It's that perfect blend between Martial arts and slapstick comedy that makes it work.

@sptony2718

Ай бұрын

@@shroobify He really knew how to sell impact. Accented Cinema has a great retrospective on the cinematic Jackie Chan.

@migspeculates

Ай бұрын

evaluating someone as "good" or "bad" is too black-and-white. there are nuances, even people with well recorded moments of cruelty

@nadaniceguy-

Ай бұрын

@@shroobify Buster Keaton is probably one of the most inspirational cinema figures to influence Hollywood martial arts films besides martial arts itself.

20:08 Yes! This needs to be talked about more. We need to stop excusing and infantilizing adults from other countries when they are acting problematic. I feel that people ether assume they must be dumb or that being a jerk is "normal" in their home country. All this, "Aw, they don't know any better." or, "It's normal where they're from! Their culture is different!" or, "Well, it's okay. That's just how people from their country acts! It's their culture!" is so awful, and arguably xenophobic too. My dad is an Asian immigrant (not Chinese though). He is just as rational, caring, intelligent, and capable of reason as any of his western peers. He and other non-western adults know better, and if he acts like an asshole, I'd be pissed if someone told me, "Haha well he's Pakistani. What do you expect?" or, "Aw, how can some little goofy Pakistani guy with a goofy accent be a bad guy?" Having an accent or being non-white doesn't make you less intelligent.

@samuelfraley8737

Ай бұрын

It’s interesting and maybe worth discussing that different countries have different reactions like what you were talking about. Like some random dude from Russia speaking in broken English has a different vibe than a dude from Kenya or France or China or Pakistan in America. I feel as though Americans might infantilize some countries’ people more than others. They may have baseline positive or negative vibes from them based on those countries and the political leaning of the American doing the perceiving. What do you think about this?

@dollardeals01

Ай бұрын

Googoo gaga.

@katgreer6113

28 күн бұрын

@@samuelfraley8737 this is true.

@bluerosemaiden5945

24 күн бұрын

You make a good point about calling out bad behavior regardless of culture. The problem is depending on the person. Let's say if a white person called out a person for problematic they would be called racist or "forcing their Western ideals on a person of color". Even if they make a good point about why what that is doing is bad. Sadly there are people online who will defend assholes and attack the rational person. In short call outs aren't easy.

i loved the jackie chan adventures as a kid, watched so much of it great video!

@eamonndeane587

Ай бұрын

I can take comfort in the fact that the Extremely talented VA James Sie voices the title character instead in that Show. Sie is really underrated.

@rafaela00002

Ай бұрын

@@eamonndeane587 That's really cool! I didn't know that. I live in Brazil, so I've only watched it with the brazilian dub

Jackie Chan holds a complicated grip upon me because I love his body of work outside of the U.S. I vividly remember having Hong Kong friends back in college in the early 2000s sharing how much Jackie was reviled over there because he's uber known to be a sex fiend. I was in denial of course, but the older I got, the more news I heard and then whammo, the heel turn was complete. Or maybe it wasn't a heel turn, it was just the truth. Thanks for sharing your thoughts about him here.

@Neku628

Ай бұрын

So, Jackie Chan was like Bill Cosby?

@wayfaringspacepoet

Ай бұрын

​​@@Neku628dunno if that's comparable, Bill Cosby was a serial rapist while with Jackie Chan we don't have any indicators of whether any of his encounters weren't consensual

@TititoDeBologay

Ай бұрын

​@@Neku628 Nah, Chan prefers consent.

@dollardeals01

Ай бұрын

Yes, except for the drugging part, those women willingly went with him.

@brumtownmiller6130

21 күн бұрын

Or he’s just human who did good and bad things! He also was put in a situation we could never imagine from 6 years old but still managed to do mo the good than bad in his position.

great video. I think you’re so right that people infantilize him and just see “funny asian guy” with nothing below the surface - it’s super racist - this was very illuminating

Ni Hao Kai Lan was my ish growing up, then it just disappeared one day.

The fact my own shitty Dad is a big fan of Chan to this day, seems fitting. There's a disturbing normalisation for a lot of men in that generation for their public persona to be this squeaky clean, wholesome amd friendly facade while their behaviour in their peivate and intimate lives is disturbing, abusive and/or downright cruel. Or, at least, thats been something I've noticed.

@jessewayne4979

Ай бұрын

Right women have never done anything or are capable of evil lol female thinking is funny

@Isthisjoebiden

Ай бұрын

Yup. Women are shamed for EVERYTHING, but men are barely held accountable

I'll definitely still be able to watch/enjoy his movies, but this video will help separate who he is on screen and who he is in private. Ultimately, this story seems to me to be a great example of how having a great publicist and some natural charisma can make people think whatever you like

I remember seeing a short video of him complaining that his son doesn’t respect him as much as he likes when he’s at home. It set off warning bells in my head and I was wondering if he was an absent father. Pretty sad to see that it’s true

"I don’t know if freedom is a good thing" "We Chinese need to be controlled" what the fuck?

@user-pc3we6gf6j

Ай бұрын

English is not his first language and also, like all socialist states, the People's Republic of China has developed some sort of siege mentality that is all too warranted when you remember what "freedom" - such as economic laissez-faire - did to the Soviet Union.

@user-pc3we6gf6j

Ай бұрын

Such siege mentality is to be expected in light of the ongoing Cold War with the US.

@idonteatspiders2986

Ай бұрын

That's a surprisingly common thing that a lot of asian parents believe, the freedom thing i mean

@KryptonitePeter

Ай бұрын

Freedom is not a good thing. Look at bloody western countries 😂🤮🤢

@dollardeals01

Ай бұрын

He hasn't been screwed by the commies yet. Wait til he says something derogatory about the ccp. Jackie who? Never heard of him.

As a Jackie Fan that watched both his Honk Kong and US films and even that abomination with Pierce Brosnan (The Foreigner?), it was sooo disappointing to find all this out. I understand his workaholism since it's how I grew up, but like the serial cheating being an awful dad was just deflating. If it's any consolation, a lot of people grew up to model themselves on his facade and not his real self.

There’s a reason why we say “never meet your idols”

I appreciate Lin for making this vid and the info she presents but to be fair Jackie Chan DESERVES CREDIT for being very honest about his faults and vices in his own memoir. Most celeb memoirs are not as honest as that.

@moon_orbit

28 күн бұрын

Agree and this video is kind of meh tbh. He is a star but not a good family man, so what? He at least is honest and doesn't try to deceive people with a false perfect image, sometimes that is enough.

@prixe12

26 күн бұрын

​​​@@moon_orbit Being self aware that you're a bad person while actively continuing to be a horrible human being is just as bad if not worse than trying to hide the it. Knowing that what you're doing is wrong and putting in no effort to make amends isn't somehow better

@MauZangetsu

18 күн бұрын

My brother in Christ, saying "I'm a piece of shit but I'm honest about it" still makes you a piece of shit. I loved Jackie Chan for 20 years but just because I didn't know he's such a turd.

I follow some other channels that have suggested that Jackie Chan is actually a terrible person, and this video just rounds out that conclusion. I'm sad to say it, he's always played such likeable characters and I heard he was cool to his fans, but fuck right off with the abandoning of your children.

@kingkazuma2239

20 күн бұрын

His parents pretty much abandoned him too you know

I remember as a kid, I had this weird constant fear of Jackie Chan turning old. I think it was because he was my favorite actor and I never wanted him to stop making movies. Little did I know that that fear would be rationalized for an entirely different reason.

Great video, and thank goodness Michelle Yeoh got the Everything, Everywhere role. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to watch Yes, Madam and Police Story 3 again.

@eamonndeane587

Ай бұрын

Don't forget to include 'Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon' in your Michelle Yeoh marathon!

I appreciate this video a lot! My mom had the biggest celebrity crush on Jackie Chan but she started realizing how much she dislikes him as a person.

Wonderful analysis! Despite his kids' questionable personal lives, I feel like they deserve to have at least something (especially his daughter who was in poverty). Although I'm glad that he shows regret and concern for his past actions, he still doesn't seem like wonderful guy they represented on the screen. He seems greedy, over-ambitious, and putting his work WAY before his own family. That's quite the polar opposite of his TV persona (with the exception of the violent part).

12:10 no, he said he made a mistake that EVERY man would make, it angered the public when he came out with that non apology Also, hong kongers born as late as the 80s do believe they are Chinese but mostly with ethnicity connotation instead of the political affinity we know today.

Jackie Chan was the only celebrity that I wanted to meet for over a decade. I admired him so much. Once I learned he cut his gay daughter off for being gay, I was so heavily disappointed. I’m back to not wanting to meet a single celebrity.

@dollardeals01

Ай бұрын

I think he cut her off before she was even born

@tarag7292

Ай бұрын

​@@dollardeals01Yes, he did. He never supported her, and felt no care or responsibility.

@brumtownmiller6130

21 күн бұрын

It was not for being gay it was because she was a bastard child of an affair (not saying it’s right). You would be surprised but more cultures around the world don’t accept the gay community

@kingkazuma2239

20 күн бұрын

Nobody's perfect bro

@vannah3729

8 күн бұрын

@@kingkazuma2239 plenty of imperfect people don’t abandon their children. 🤷

In regards to his kids I think in Jackie’s mind that if he’s able to be as successful as he is from working hard enough with little to no help then his kids can too or maybe the parenting style he grew up with that made him adopt such a mentality and work ethic helped him so he wishes to show that to his kids to learn from it the way he did either way he has to help his kids out with the bare minimum at least.

aligning actors with their roles is so weird, like yeah he plays a nice goofy guy but that is exactly that *a play* if he is a good actor then who he is while playing doesn't mean shit. actors aren't themselves but creations and I think people forget that a lot

Man, I have known about Jackie Chan’s shitty views and behavior for a while, but I’ve always had difficulty confronting it due to the fact that I idolized him as a kid. Thanks for condensing all this into a single video because this would have been so painful to research. This video makes a genuinely great point about famous artists. I know it’s irresponsible to put any person on a pedestal, but that’s hard to understand when you’re six years old and said person is a martial arts movie star. And like don’t get me wrong as an old Hollywood nerd I’m used to my faves being shitty people, but I wasn’t obsessed with Carry Grant in second grade lmao. EDIT: Holy shit Everything Everywhere all at Once would not have been nearly as good with Jackie in the lead.

Well that's upsetting. I haven't really followed martial arts movies since I had to retire due to disability, but it was Jackie who got me into filmmaking and choreography. Initially Jet Li and Van Damme got me into martial arts but Jackie got me into the craft. Super disappointing to know this stuff. Super glad he passed on Everything Everywhere, what we got with Michelle Yeoha nd Ke Huy Quan was sublime and Jackie could only have made it different and less good. I'd rather see more of Ke Guy Quan ^_^

It's too bad he really isnt the nurturing father figure we've seen in countless films, the most recent one of which was Teenage Mutant Turtles: Mutant Mayhem. I really enjoyed that movie and I'll continue to love it, but not because of him.

@eamonndeane587

Ай бұрын

It does confuse me why they cast a Chinese actor to voice Master Splinter, a Japanese Character. Personally I would have cast George Takei instead.

@leoSaunders

Ай бұрын

are you really surprised that the guy who created amazing cinema with countless broken bones, isn't the best father figure? put it into perspective. he's at the top of his game. (Un)fortunately off-spring isn't entitled to the parent's fortune while they're still alive (if not generational, which is so rare anyway).

@PeruvianPotato

24 күн бұрын

​@@eamonndeane587 I mean does it really matter? I doubt many people are genuinely going to care and go on intensive research on the cast and even more so on their ethnic background

great dissection really, your essays are immersive and crafted so well, thought provoking too 💕

LOVED this video!

@CheyenneLin

Ай бұрын

Thank you!!!

Is it just me who thinks that giving your fortune away to charity instead of leaving it to your kids is actually a commendable thing? I feel like generational wealth only drives disparity, so redistribution is always preferable.

@Vaith

21 күн бұрын

theres a difference between giving it all away to charity and none for your kids and supporting your family and charity.

@brumtownmiller6130

21 күн бұрын

@@Vaitheven if you don’t think your kids deserve it! If your kids a druggy and you think if you give them your fortune, they’re just gonna blow it on drugs and parties then why not give it to people that actually need it

@Vaith

12 күн бұрын

@@brumtownmiller6130 again theres a difference between giving away your fortune and supporting your family. i would have thought it was common sense but apparently it's not. you should always try to support people not just drop them at the first sign of trouble. only if the relationship becomes toxic do you drop them. also chances are giving away to charity is just a tax write off... so yeh...

@brumtownmiller6130

12 күн бұрын

@@Vaith bro he gave his kid(son) the best education, best access to resources and the best start to life. He saw his son throw it away and be a proper drug addict. Why would he support that? He gave his son the ability to live his best life and set up himself for the future and his son way squandered it for a party and drug life. Jackie didn’t want to support that. If his son lived a good and productive life, sure Jackie would of spurted him more

@Vaith

12 күн бұрын

@@brumtownmiller6130 not your bro, and my point still stands im not specifically talking just about jackie but about people as a whole.

I love your videos and Kayla! I’m so happy you also watch her, you both have such great takes. Thank you for the video!

I really like Jackie Chan - The Martial Artist and The Entertainer *But I really don't like Jackie Chan the Person* 🥋🧧👲🇨🇳🇭🇰🥊

Bai Ling is also a great actress I think. She gets a bad rap because she embraces her sexuality.

You make very good videos. This is one of your best.

I really like when the KZread algorithm comes through and recommends a video that I would've probably not watched due to the length, but found myself really engaged the whole time I watched it. Good job!

loved this video!

I never assumed Jackie is a good or nice person just because he's an amazing stunt performer and martial artist. We don't know these people.

Thank you Chayenne for binging up this issue that many of us with Chinese heritage have struggled with. Jackie Chan has been a controversial figure for us, especially in Taiwan for his involvement with the CCP, we loved him for his iconic roles in Hollywood films but in the more recent years his more personal and political viewscame to light. The majority of the Western audience have yet to caught on to his views and I thank you for bringing this to the attention to some of them.

I don’t care that he’s not leaving anything for his children. While it’s not ideal or normal, it’s still his choice to make. On the other hand, he never contributed financially towards his daughter’s upbringing. Hence, a deadbeat dad. As a parent, whether the child is wanted or not, you should try to play an active role in their lives. I get that as a celeb, he did not want to give her attention, then he should have at least contributed financially since the world essentially knew about her.

Very informative and well put together, there was a lot I did not know.

I actually knew the stuff about his daughter. I read about it somewhere and that was def when the bloom was off the rose for me. But a good amount of this stuff I never knew, (I knew about the misogyny too) although i did know about his support of China's authoritarian regime and the crackdowns on the protestors there.

@user-pc3we6gf6j

Ай бұрын

"Authoritarian regime"... come on, now. -_-

@dollardeals01

Ай бұрын

I regret learning about his daughter. It's a shame she didn't take after her mom more. Looks like a female jackie.

I am not ready to watch this yet, Jackie Chen's films are what made my childhood bearable

@ndu-sx3ns

27 күн бұрын

Its hard for me to accept as well

@propogandalf

22 күн бұрын

You can just not watch it. It's ok.

@brumtownmiller6130

21 күн бұрын

He’s not that bad, he’s just not perfect! People act like celebrities are perfect god like beings and when they make human mistakes like the rest of us, it’s gets blown out of proportion. People act like he’s bull Cosby or something

I love your videos! I know you do not really take video ideas from your audience, but one thing I have noticed you discuss in your essays is self-Orientalism, like Jackie Chan benefitting from the exotic funny foreigner stereotype in Hollywood. It would be awesome if you ever did a whole video on this topic! I'm sure it would be huge though.

Yeah, that was a huge disappointment.

I do agree with most of the points you brought up. However, I think his views on politics is taken with little context. He grew up in HK during the imperial rule of the British. He along with his family and friends were treated like second class citizens. Why wouldn't he push for better relationships with the mainland after unification? It was obvious that most of the turmoil and riots were pushed by the CIA and other western countries. Was this for freedom? Of course not. They didn't push for it prior to 1997 so why would they care now? Why would Jackie Chan work with them to destabilize HK? That doesn't make any sense.

@PeruvianPotato

24 күн бұрын

Ah yes because it's not like there is literal stigma against mainlanders in Hong Kong right now

Bit of a detour, but I still come back from time to time watching 'Jackie Chan - How to Do Action Comedy' by Every Frame a Painting (9 years ago already, time flies).

I wasnt ready for this Cheyenne..but thank you lol

i think this video is well researched and well put together, great job! *thumbs up

Thanks for making this honest video about Jackie. I grew up on Jackie too since the late 90's, though as boy, (and a non-asian) I wasn't forced and I thoroughly enjoyed them. Honestly for years I didn't even know he was married AND had kids, that were born, and raised here in the U.S. since he never really mentioned them. So when his autobiography came out, it made sense. Though I did know about his parents forcing him to live with strangers. I'm not sure if he's actually pro-china, since a lot of Hong Kong actors have said similar things (to keep their jobs and not get censored I think). Donnie Yen's a good example of an actor who bends over backwards with pro-china and anti-western films, even today. Anyways, we can still enjoy Jackie's films, even if our perceptions of the man may have changed. Again thanks for the video!👍

Interesting video. I honestly didn't know much of anything about Jackie Chan's private life, thank you for the peek behind the curtain.👍

Great video, I knew about some of the controversy surrounding Jackie Chan beforehand but you opened my eyes to a fair bit more here. I loved his movies and tv show as a kid, and growing up to see behind the curtain is jarring for sure. I think with such talented actors who are cast in parental/mentorship roles and play them so excellently it is difficult to separate the character we see on screen from the individual playing them, you only need to look as far as his Shanghai Knights co-star Owen Wilson to see this is not an uncommon issue. I think it's important to bring these issues to light, and let people decide whether this is someone who's career they wish to support going forward, so thank you.

You have great and eye opening videos ❤

I have been avoiding this conversation about Jackie for years but I'm 29 going on 30 in October time for me to face the truth

with Jackie there's seems to be some implicit "I'm old and bitter inside and you all have to be too and I will only support those who are old, bitter and miserable inside as I chase an adrenaline high"

During the height of attention on Hong Kong, Jackie Chan was called out for supporting China and it was ridiculous how many people tried to infantilize him. Like “oh he probably doesn’t know as a Chinese citizen, the censorship there is so strict after all!” Like no one wanted to believe he is maliciously for the colonization of other countries. I think anybody who isn’t indoctrinated to imperialist values or prioritizes their own self interests wouldn’t have done what he did.

@Nikita-ze8ii

21 күн бұрын

Hong Kong is a part of China though? Cant colonize yourself

I had read Chan's biography, and while I have no concrete evidence, he always struck me as a very angry dude. Just lots of stuff boiling under the surface.

Yeah i liked him very much as a kid

My ick will always be fathers abandoning their children either financially or emotionally

@matttheamerican3766

Ай бұрын

But not mothers???

@tarag7292

Ай бұрын

​@@matttheamerican3766 Please stop with this false equivalency bull crap. Women don't abandon their children at the rate that men do, and that is a fact. Men love to tote on about how men and women are different, but when it's something that may make the male sex look bad, it's the "well, women do it too" justification."

@chimpwimp9407

26 күн бұрын

@@matttheamerican3766 This whataboutism.

@matttheamerican3766

25 күн бұрын

@@chimpwimp9407 dude could have said parents that abandon their children but chose to slight only scummy men and not scummy women as if its a some one sided issue. Comments like that skew the issue and muddy the waters of progress. You clearly dont know what whataboutism even means. I guess your name is correct

@chimpwimp9407

25 күн бұрын

@@matttheamerican3766 This is clearly supposed to be about Jackie Chan and not scummy celebrities in general. If that were the case then you would be right.

I never idolized Jackie Chan, but I have to admit that he’s in some of my favorite movies. Rush-hour, rumble in the Bronx supercop. I struggled with watching this movie because there’s a part of me that would like to remain naïve to an actors personal life so that I can continue to enjoy their movies. I think the stuff you outlined is upsetting to say the least. I am with you, wishing that he was a better person, and maybe it’s not too late for him to turn that around, but it doesn’t excuse or erase his past

It is pretty wild to learn this about the guy because someone mistook an actress in that clip as his real-life daughter. Having someone chime in and go, "Actually, that man's a menace."

I’m not Asian, but the moment I found out he was anti Hong Kong and Taiwan and didn’t respect their sovereignty, I lost any respect I had. Then I found out about his family relationship, and that pushed me further in my dislike of him. I still like the Shanghai Noon/Knight films but I’m really not a fan of him.

@ravenm6443

Ай бұрын

Also Jackie Chan Adventures was amazing!!! He’s clearly so talented and does work very hard. And of course no one deserves to experience racism. But I don’t think disappointing quite covers how I feel about his views. He’s free to have those views, but there’s no debating how harmful they are, especially considering his influence. I agree on his family relationships being a result of his own experiences growing up. I think I read somewhere that Shanghai Knights was kind of like a rekindling of his and his father’s relationship. If I remember correctly, the photo Jackie shows of what is suppose to be him and his father, is a real photo. It’s sad what he must have experienced and how that affected him moving forward but still… and by far, it’s definitely not an excuse for how he treated a toddler.

💔💔💔💔💔 I have been completely out of the loop about all of this, and your video is the first I'm learning about any of this. He has always seemed to be so humble, and honestly I never realized that he had a family. I don't think that Jackie Chan is wrong for not leaving his wealth to his son, though; his son is an adult who already has the capacity and connections necessary to be more successful than the majority of people in this world, and he doesn't need anything more. I don't believe that it should be legal for people to inherit so much money that they will never need to work. For his daughter, it's hard to know what her mother has or hasn't done just from social media posts, but I understand why a parent would feel back-footed by being called out online, justified or not, and I am not going to judge someone who is clearly unprepared for public scrutiny for what they say without more information. Jackie Chan's politics is super problematic, though I also understand that as a Chinese national, his ability to challenge them is severely limited. It sounds to me like he has drunk too deeply from the well of CCCP-think, and he likely doesn't know where the line between what he actually believes and what he has to claim to believe to thrive actually lies. Maybe I am too soft on him, but I don't see why his time in the U.S. should have made him change his mind, when despite his success, he was never fully embraced and remained an outsider. It's challenging to accept influence from people we see as our neighbors, much less from those who keep us always at a distance.

Wonderful essay on the divide between movies and life

Good video, you nailed it!

Very good video

He is not a caring person. Perhaps because he was not cared about by loving parents. So he learned to use the world and everyone in it. But I'm more impressed by the last statements of this episode. It is not easy to let go of the learned perceptions that we are all taught about people from countries not your own. Entire cultures are wrongly demonized, because of skin color or religion. And who benefits from the separation that comes from taught racism, colorism, and sexism? Nothing will change until talk becomes action. I don’t have the answers but letting go of some fear has to be part of understanding.

A Jackie led EVERYTHING everywhere would have been really interesting. I finally watched it for the first time this past weekend and loved it but would definitely have liked to see THIS alternate universe version

About doing his own stunts, i saw some videos before claiming that it is not always the case. Jackie tends to over exaggerate his stories

Yeah, this is why I prefer not to know much about living famous people's personal lives. I mean, it's cool when you hear them talking publicly about important issues, but often, they happen to be very flawed humans (or simply the worst). Recently I innocently googled MIA, thinking "I wonder if she have released a new album" and the first search result was her being antivaxx and tweeting about she believing there are nanobots in the vaccines.

@tarag7292

Ай бұрын

😬

Michelle Yeoh calling him a "chauvinist" is hypocritical considering that she herself is married to a businessman who is twice her age

Im in the same boat. My biological father and I would watch Jackie Chan movies so much, that he became my idol. But over time it's just not the case anymore which is so sad.

It's possible to like his work and not like him as a person. All these people defending his behaviour need to grow up.

@Lara-vo6rp

23 күн бұрын

THIS

I think he also admitted to beating his wife and apologized for it. Also there's a lot of these types of people in the world who want to have kids, but don't want to take care of them, it's sickening.