Let's take a look at the new Minardi 😅

@PiPi-rx1qg

2 ай бұрын

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I'm glad and appreciate that you're using one of their old team names, instead of the corporate word salad being forced on everyone

@PiPi-rx1qg

2 ай бұрын

honda made older is nissan/infiniti made

@chrisbackhouse5730

2 ай бұрын

@@PiPi-rx1qg correct - the point is that all the previous team names are better than the bullshit being forced on everyone, and it seems that the team has understood this, as all media personnel are simply calling the team RB

Two owners of the same team within a sporting competition are just not acceptable. RB brought up Salzburg and Leipzig playing each other in the CL, but that was a huge fuss and came with special regulations separating the two entities as much as possible and is still hardly uncontroversial. But we all know by now that F1 is about oligarchic power grabs so what can you do; of course RB is going to use this to their advantage.

@TassieLorenzo

2 ай бұрын

"Two owners of the same team within a sporting competition are just not acceptable" Yawn. Having two teams was the cornerstone of both Red Bull (Red Bull and Toro Rosso) and Honda's (Honda and Super Aguri) participation. The same commitment to F1 that shows both of these entities hosting Grands Prix (Austrian Grand Prix and Japanese Grand Prix), where the likes of the German Grand Prix - neither hosted or sponsored by Mercedes-Benz - is conspicuously absent. There has been nothing stopping anyone else from acquiring a second team over the past 20 years. Numerous teams have been up for sale (most notably the 2010 entrants -- Manor, Hispania and Caterham), yet the likes of Renault, Mercedes and McLaren have not bothered to purchase them. A Dacia team would be perfect to assist Renault to collect more power unit data for instance.

Budget cap was put exactly to balance the economic efforts between all teams. I don't find it fair for red bull to basically run two teams, as they would get a huge advantage in terms of research and tech development. That being said, it's not Red Bull's fault: they just exploited the existing rules, as every team should. This kind of team alliances have already happened in the past. We just need FIA to make better regulations about people and information transfer between teams.

@98MTBiker

2 ай бұрын

There's quite strict rules in place about what information, parts and facilities can be shared. Still, I agree in the sense that I think they can never police it completely.

@literallyhuman5990

2 ай бұрын

Meanwhile KTM, Gasgas, and Husq basically one giant team:

@eden5260

2 ай бұрын

imagine Ferrari using some of the huge aero tunnel allocation Haas has Or Mercedes with Williams Then just handing out the junior team their former design in return

@herressen1271

2 ай бұрын

I think you´d find limits quite soon which you can actually regulate. It do have to be like everyone needs an fia private detective monitoring them. At some point i ask myself if it espionage in regards to that sport should just be legal. Like fuck it want to have a winning car, gotta be secret about as best as you can manage. but bribes would be kept within the costcap xD

@literallyhuman5990

2 ай бұрын

@@eden5260 or just be KTM and gave two different factory team your own bike for motocross, another one for MotoGP, and gave them your well proven Moto3 engine to other two brand that you own. While still acting like three factory team doesn't share a single roof Btw, can we call this off? I just accidentally drink octane again

The sidepods look minimal, and the car looks sleeker than last year. I hope they jump further ahead this year

@PiPi-rx1qg

2 ай бұрын

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I had no idea AlphaTauri is a clothes brand

@PiPi-rx1qg

2 ай бұрын

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@Beni_Hana

Ай бұрын

The usual, nice but expensive (overpriced).

when you dont even bother saying the full name sums it all haha

i think we should remember redbull joined f1 in a time when it wasn't convenient and nobody wanted to, making two teams greatly recover, saving them from failure. I'm no redbull fan at all but I try to be objective, not allowing them to have 2 teams anymore would be harsh and ungrateful for what they did for the sport. that being said, I do agree the two entities must be as separate and controlled as possible.

My crazy prediction is that Checo will get demoted to cash cow mid season, then win a race in it !

@The_ZeroLine

2 ай бұрын

Cash Cow App RB. lol I think he’ll get demoted too. He already looks terrible in the RBR. He’s good at getting the most from compromised chassis, but not from a car like the RBR.

I really like STR exploiting their connections with RBR, it’s something they should’ve took advantage of a long time ago. To their detractors, why didn’t they save Caterham & Manor if they think this is so unfair to them? It’s not like the FIA said they couldn’t save ailing teams. Red Bull Energy & Dietrich Mateschitz took a chance on Minardi and their investment paid off in brand recognition and now a proxy wind tunnel guinea pig.

Just another storyline. To counter, other teams are going to have to set up cooperative exchanges. Sounds fun to track.

@TassieLorenzo

2 ай бұрын

Ferrari and HAAS design staff already have a cooperative exchange! The HAAS design office is where Ferrari puts all surplus Scuderia Ferrari design staff like Simone Resta and others. It would be valuable for Renault to have purchased a second team, say Caterham, and now have a second team like Dacia-Renault to collect more power unit data -- one wonders why they did not do so.

I like this car and think it will do well. I don't care about the intrigue I just like good engineering and good racing.

I think the correct name of the team is Cash Cows, but otherwise good video

Haha and i know its only first training session and means nothing...but Ricardo was on first place..And Brown will beeee crryyiing😅 And i dont mind it if they work together...look at Haas its basicly Ferrari copy....so if its in the rules...theres nothing to cry about !!!!!

@vercingetorige400

2 ай бұрын

haas is still a crap car copying but aston, and before racing point, made millions by copying the top crop

@eden5260

2 ай бұрын

It ain't about copying or sharing components It is about sharing designs And possibly going around the wind tunnel regulations. Just test certain things under the allocation of the junior team

@zelcpavle5494

2 ай бұрын

@@eden5260 all is controled by FIA

Exploiting these rules is good gain for the teams short term. But in the long term, this forces FIA to react and introduce more regulations. This cycle continues and leads to a highly restrictive Motorsport. I would prefer that teams settle this in the background and prevent introducing new regulations that is often not easy to govern.

@Maruman_man

2 ай бұрын

they didn't do much about the rb19...they certainly did a lot to stall mercedes in 2021.

@Alex-vq8fu

2 ай бұрын

​@@Maruman_manafter how many years of dominance?

@eden5260

2 ай бұрын

​@@Alex-vq8fuwhat a poor point

@herressen1271

2 ай бұрын

@@Maruman_manwhat exactly should they have done? I mean that they got away with the costcap shit i get that. But newey for some reason just knew how to develop the new regulations car with focusing on the suspension first. And there was a point to the regulation changes outlawing intrecit frontwing designs and rearwings with complex aero design, that is pulling the field together. The problem after the new aero regulations was (and to some point might still be) to get reliable downforce from the floor. As this is a function of ridehight ( or more accurate the distence from the floor to the track) and how level the floor is, redbull just figured that out better. Like i dont know when but at some point even newey pointed out that their fokus was mainly on the suspension setup to get the main source of downforce to work predictable and reliable. Like from the regulation begin you could say that the general development strats of the teams were kinda off (no one to be blamed here).

@Hamisxa

2 ай бұрын

@@Maruman_man still crying about 21 lmfao. Bro Merc had insider information lately and got private tests just before Hybrid era.

All the teams agreed that they wanted the field closer together, and to protect the smaller teams from disappearing, hence the cost cap and development time regulations. If VCARB was as slow as last year, they wouldn't say a thing. Zak Brown would be doing a lot less whining if McLaren had been winning races last year.

@vandalsgarage

2 ай бұрын

Zak Brown is hanging on by a thread at McLaren. He probably saved his job by barely edging out Aston Martin last year. If McLaren slips.back.to P5 or lower.this season, I expect he'll be fired. That's one reason he's worried about STR. Alpine won't be a factor, but they'll be fighting STR and AM for P4.

I think Red Bull shouldn't be allowed to have 2 teams...

That ownership setup is a slap to the face of legitimate competition. RedBull basically runs each season fielding 2 teams, while everyone else has only 1

@TassieLorenzo

2 ай бұрын

*And why didn't Mercedes, Renault, Ferrari, McLaren etc buy a second team when they had the chance!?!* That is 100% their own fault. *Numerous* insolvent teams like Manor, Hispania and Caterham were available for purchase. To not buy them, and THEN complain of nowhere to put your junior drivers (Piastri), nowhere to run your engines (Renault no customers) is just inexplicable and infuriating! To complain about Honda and Red Bull having two teams each (Honda & Super Aguri, Red Bull & Toro Rosso), instead of *just getting a second team of your own* makes no sense at all.

I think it’s ridiculous in modern f1 to have team who are in the sport who’s goal is to not win the championship. When teams like haas and vcarb exist, it makes a mockery of

Just more F1 BS 🤡🤡🤡

Lmao, RB doesn't get KTM treatment. What a double standard, when 2 teams are wrong but 3 teams under one roof is completely allowed in 2 wheel world.

@eden5260

2 ай бұрын

Dude what?

@literallyhuman5990

2 ай бұрын

@@eden5260 yes, KTM that owns Gasgas and Husqvarna actually raced the same bike on a three different factory team for Motocross program, two different factory team for MotoGP, shared the same engine and frame on three different Moto3 teams. And it's completely fine, nobody gave a shit about it. But when Redbull does it it's bad? People are blind or something?

@eden5260

2 ай бұрын

@@literallyhuman5990 comparing apples to oranges doesn't even describe a half of what you're trying to do here. Sorry but you just sound crazy

@literallyhuman5990

2 ай бұрын

@@eden5260 it's not crazy when it's the reality

They are not close enough.. hope VCARB will come second in the WCC

Red Bull should be forced to sell the RB to Andretti.

@literallyhuman5990

2 ай бұрын

There's Porsche that want RB, we don't need another US team

@Ruylopez778

2 ай бұрын

More like Haas should sell to Andretti

@Hamisxa

2 ай бұрын

Mercedes should be forced to sell to Porsche

@ATR-Bigoz

2 ай бұрын

@@Hamisxa Must have missed Mercedes' second team xddd Porsche not coming mate, u didn't get the memo?

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