Seems to me that Samsung are quietly admitting that that Exynos is an inferior product by keeping the Ultra as a Snapdragon only product

@raghavendraravi6866

5 ай бұрын

Removing BT 5.4 and WiFi 7 just to match their best processor does not look good. Plus, the ultra has 8 Gen 3 for Galaxy which is not comparable to the others on paper. What a shit show.

@ralphdsouza6775

5 ай бұрын

I had the same thought as well!

@fmmderetarzi

5 ай бұрын

yup, 100%

@RecklessTurtle

5 ай бұрын

Exactly! The fact that the OG Samsung phone only comes with Gen3 CPU, tells you how much confidence Sammy has for their in-house Exynos chipset. In fact, we know it would be garbage compared to Gen 3 because Google Tensor chips are modified versions of Exynos and are at least 2 generations behind competition regarding raw performance.

@bbbl67

5 ай бұрын

This has been the case for several generations now. Why aren't Samsung's own processors closer to the Qualcomm processors after so many years already?

Samsung didn’t send you phones to test? You are one of the few people on KZread that knows anything about how these things work.

@vedanshchn

5 ай бұрын

And that's exactly why they won't wanna lol

@Henfredemars

5 ай бұрын

Gary's top technical reviewer. Problem is, he would tell the truth.

@Danilio.

5 ай бұрын

​@@Henfredemars Bingo

@sharpasacueball

5 ай бұрын

He's got 300k subs. How many phone reviewers have 300k+ subs? Way too many samsung don't give a shit lol

we need speed test G back please..

If Samsung wants to use exynos they should use it in the fe editions of the phones

@user-hm8xh9yw5w

5 ай бұрын

Midrange*

@qt47

5 ай бұрын

Amen 🎉

@TamasKiss-yk4st

5 ай бұрын

They are selling way more mid and low range phones, they can use the crapxynos there.. the $1000 phone make enough profit for the more expensive chip (it's cheaper for them to use their own made chip, because they are not charging the same profit for themself what another company charge for them)

@casuarius6576

5 ай бұрын

They should use it for the flagship devices

@casuarius6576

5 ай бұрын

They can use shitQualcomm in their mid-range line-up then.@@TamasKiss-yk4st

Here we go again, with the inferior Exynos SoC being shoved down our throats if we don't live in the US... Samsung did a nice thing with the S23 series, but now they're almost back to the same crap... I'm surprised they didn't use the Exynos in the S24 Ultra, maybe they want people to buy that model. Anyway, let's wait for the "official" results, but I don't think those will impress anybody...

@TheSonyExperience

5 ай бұрын

It's a money thing. Samsung's chips division is hemorrhaging money. There isn't enough margin most likely on the non ultra models. They are cost-cutting. They just aren't making money They have to cut wherever they can. I also bet their ultra models are their highest-selling skus just like apples highest selling iphones are the pros

@heyitsmejm4792

5 ай бұрын

because samsung has a separate division for their CPU chip manufacturing,. and samsung mobile division is keeping them alive by buying their Exynos chips. but yeah, sacrificing your users into forcing an inferior chip just to keep its production alive is not good at all. but i do believe is that it is not the chip's designs fault but rather the manufacturing process. Samsungs chip manufacturing is really bad that when they made the snap dragon 888 and 888 gen1 they suffer from poor generational performance and a lot of heating issues. so in order for Exynos to be good. Samsung's manufacturing process has to improve first..

@POVwithRC

5 ай бұрын

"Shoved down your throat" I know, ever since the government mandated that you must buy an Exynos powered smartphone under penalty of law it's been a real drag. Oh wait. You aren't forced to buy anything. There is no throat shoving.

@TheBf666

5 ай бұрын

exynos 2400 this time is a lot better and has a better thermal management. Some of you all should not just jump to conclusions based on past experiences.

@DG-hw8it

5 ай бұрын

​@@TheSonyExperienceApple's highest selling models were the small SE models, though. 🤔

I always had a terrible battery drain on Exynos and will never buy a device with that chip again, hence I went for the Ultra.

@Greggozzo

5 ай бұрын

Exactly. I have used Samsung S line with Exynos from S2. Battery drain was horrible. Since I started using S23U with Snapdragon it"s a night and day difference. S23U is the best Samsung has ever made and mainly due to Snapdragon. I never had such stable and long battery life.

@wilkinlow

5 ай бұрын

My s10 exynos is shit. I’m having 3 to 4 hours SOT with a new battery. Meanwhile the idle drain is also insane. I lose 10 percent after 8 hours of sleep

@benellis7427

Ай бұрын

​@wilkinlow Thats really not bad.

Our local YT channel (Zona IT - means IT Zone in romanian) got the 3 phones for several hours to test. For S24 ultra he got 7118 in one test and 7078 points in another in Geekbench 6 CPU test multicore with 2333 and 2287 for the single core tests. The S24+, with Exynos, he got 6690 in multicore and 2107 in single core. For the smaller S24, the results are 6516 and 2134. And he said he didn't felt like either overheated in the benchmark, nor in the short gaming afterwards. And that, while weaker, this Exynos 2400 feels much improved and closer to the Snapdragon chip than in the previous generations. (Edited for better, more info)

@abdullahk0405

5 ай бұрын

Never ever Exynos again. Snapdragon all the way

@FlorinArjocu

5 ай бұрын

Actually it gets to 7118 in multicore and 2333 in single core. See 15:30 aprox. in Zona's review.

@Winnetou17

5 ай бұрын

@@FlorinArjocu Ha, you're right! I didn't remembered when he said exactly, and I took the numbers from where he said about the S24 and S24+ and there is a side by side comparison there, showing the numbers I put at 20:44 . Weird that they're different, but it's a small difference.

@frankreynolds9930

5 ай бұрын

​@Winnetou17 Well exynos are clocked lower, ofcourse its score will be lower.

@thepirateswirled

5 ай бұрын

There was never an exynos beating a snapdragon afaik, also even if they benchmark similar, it doesn't mean much, for example my S21 ultra with exynos is way worse at emulation than a snapdragon 888, even though the s21 ultra's exynos benchmarks better. There is no reason to do this in a flagship smartphone, that costs more than 1000. Snapdragons also tend to be way more energy efficient, remember the S22 disaster, do you really want this again, I don't. There must be a reason for that samsung gave the S24 ultra the snapdragon exclusively, it's as they're already admitting that the snapdragon is better and exynos not good enough for the ultra. @@frankreynolds9930

Fantastic, would love to have a detailed comparison soon.

@rickjason215

5 ай бұрын

Gary, as a reviewer, should have been sent phones to test, like other reviewers. If he or his company ordered the phones, they are supposed to come by January 30. It would probably take several days after that to complete a comparison.

@mrrohithr

5 ай бұрын

@rickjason215 True , it would be great if tech reviewers like him got the products earlier ...I would still gladly wait for his analysis even if a little delayed.

It looks like TSMC’s node process allows higher clock speeds than Samsung’s and Samsung has to offset with more cores.

@justinski9763

5 ай бұрын

I wonder if the difference is smaller than you think. The gen 3 appears to heat up faster then gen 2. The gen 3 "for galaxy" are a special overclocked (better binned)chip for Samsung.

@brunoutechkaheeros1182

5 ай бұрын

​@@justinski9763its only a bad thing if that heat up reachs above 45c and beyond when playing

@RyanUniverseZ

5 ай бұрын

​@@justinski9763only in benchmarks tho but that's because the 8Gen3 has a much higher thermal threshold almost as same as the 8+Gen1 At the same wattage as 8Gen2 it generates the same amount of heat

@vincelongman3264

5 ай бұрын

Sadly, more A520 cores won't help get more performance

@user-en4sy6cr9n

5 ай бұрын

sgen3 throttles faster because of the higher clock speeds

It’s also really interesting to see how they compare in terms of efficiency!

@MJ-uk6lu

5 ай бұрын

Exynos wins a bit.

Is this a comparison to the standard snap 8 gen 3? Or the Galaxy exlusive one? (: just want to confirm, as were comparing to samsung.

Does the Exynos 2400 still use the Exynos 5300 modem? Not the new Exynos 5400 modem?

Was waiting for this video

I really question the 1+2+3+4 setup. I feel like taking all the A720s and running them somewhere between those two clusters, perhaps 2.75ghz, would have been an easier and possibly more efficient 1+5+4 setup.

Was waiting for this really

What about the relative NPU capabilities to support on-device AI functionality (language translation on call etc)?

I wonder about the efficiency(Snapdragon is likely to be better) as that might have impact on battery life.

I wonder if burden on efficiency cores are increasing with OS update that is why they are choosing these kind of configuration and increasing performance cores.. Can anyone confirm me on that ?

That was quick! I hope the Exynos doesnt nerf the S24 a lot..

Qualcomm still not on tsmc N3?

As ive stated before, the cores, the design, clock speed does play a difference but not as much as the manufacturing process does. Both the 888 and 8G1 that were fabbed by samsung had ridiculous heating and efficiency issues. And they were Snapdragon! Once qualcomm switched back over to TSMC all was good and well in the 8+G1 and above. Hopefully the 8G3FG keeps that same pattern.

Thank you for this video.

Thanks for the video. I've been wondering what differences are there. 2024 is all about the hype in AI, what are the differences with the NPU? On device AI is the talk of the day.

performance wise wont noticeable since its flagship anyway thermal and battery life, we still need prove how good this new exynos i really hope the dream team can deliver so make the competition better

Watch the numbers on the phone's Geekbench 6 in the Romanian review: 7118 in multicore and 2333 in single core for SD: kzread.info/dash/bejne/q6KK3Nmyf6_Tp9I.htmlsi=ma6Qeo2QNAQpUlZO It starts at aprox 15:30 and a bit later you also see the Exynos results on the Galaxy S24 and S24 Plus; they are about 10% or so lower. I have some screenshots if automated translations don't work.

Honestly, I'd be okay with slightly lower clock speeds if the efficiency is okay. Eeking out another 5 to 10% isn't worth it if it means turning it into a pocket hand warmer. (Hopefully samsung has learned from their mistakes in this department)

Is there anyone that makes a security hardened version of the new Galaxy models? IE the Kryptall for Samsung Galaxy 24+ or OnePlus 12?

This isn't the first time that a device sharing the same name in Samsung's lineup differed vastly by region.

The best CPU config should actually be 3+2+3+2 imo If my calculations are correct this has the best overall spacing for all wattages Dimensity 9300 is really great for mid to high performance But falters at low wattages, This should bridge the gap

Yeah, Samsung has always claimed Exynos is on par with Snapdragon even if it was noticeably slower snd hotter. Simple marketing gibberish.

@thepirateswirled

5 ай бұрын

I agree here.

So the more things change, the more they stay the same for performance it sounds like.

Please do speed test g for exynos 2400 and snapdragon. It been rumored that lpp 4+ process node is performing better than tsmc n4 node

@parshakamarsh

5 ай бұрын

Who by?

@defnotatroll

5 ай бұрын

Not a chance

You can see the power of TSMC superior energy efficiency Samsung is clocked lower across the board but looses to TSMC is efficiency still given the lower multi core result. On the assumption that both have a similar power consumption

the exynos version with tensor g4 will be the highlight of the upcoming google pixel 9 and 9pro hope they get an overclocked version of this......intrestingly Samsung is using AMD instead of Mali for its graphics lets see how that fares would like to know more on that as well nice work👍

@GaryExplains

5 ай бұрын

This isn't the first time that Samsung has used an AMD GPU, so we know some of how that will go. But lets wait until we have some real testing once the devices are out.

@rajlovinglife

5 ай бұрын

@@GaryExplains sure thing......

It always matters. Exynos is always inferior to Snapdragon.

Thank you Garry. I want to ask you something, I love small screen. Should I buy S23 or S24? Is Exynos weaker than Snapdragon? Should I buy S23 just for the processor? Or should I buy s24 for artificial intelligence? Why does Samsung use two different processors in its new phones? do you think it is s23 or s24? What is your suggestion?

@trignite

5 ай бұрын

S24+ Is 1440p up from the 23+ which was 1080p, and has a brighter screen and bigger battery. Exynos 2400 is really close to SD Gen 3. Whereas the old Exynos chip wasn't even close to the SD Gen 2. I would go with the S24+

Also interesting to see if the Exynos is more more efficient (longer battery life)? That could be a worthwhile trade-off. I will skip this one anyway, I always buy the uneven version S1-S3-s5-S7-S9-S21 and now S23 since a few months 🙂. So my earliest replacement will be S25...

@ashishpatel350

5 ай бұрын

I doubt that qcom has always been more efficient

@naumankhan422

5 ай бұрын

Battery will be significantly worse on exynos on 5g standby as the Qualcomm Modem is superior to exynos modem.

@kierenkd

5 ай бұрын

The samsung modem is 12GB to Qualcomms 10GB

@ashishpatel350

5 ай бұрын

@@kierenkd hahaha yeah in the real world qcom wins

@kierenkd

5 ай бұрын

@@ashishpatel350 wins at what exactly?

Correction: tsmc is N4P process, exynos supports wifi 6e as its confirmed by gsmarena

Snap versions usually got locked bootloader. My note 9 snapdragon still no custom rom past Android 10. Locked bootloader. Exnyos ones are wide open. Ill wait for s25 or 26 ultra or different phone with stylus

Rumor in at least one benchmark the new exynos gpu is twice as fast as the s23

I think that Exynos 2400 is around the same level as last year S23 series' Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, what is still very good. So I don't think that Exynos or Snapdragon matters as much anymore as it used to, but 8 Gen 3 is better that's why they use it on the Ultra everywhere

6:04 This page is one of the best proof about how worse is the exynoss 2400. To force the dissabling of wifi 7 because of their home made prototype. What a shame for the snapdragon S24 and S24 plus users.

Just when I wanted a video on it

Hi Bro, where have you been for a long time?

@GaryExplains

5 ай бұрын

Eh?

performance and power consumption mean everything, it is matter please, otherwise why Ultra series does not use Exynos?

@JackieFrankieful

5 ай бұрын

because Samsung wants to get rid of Exynos and nobody wants to buy them, so they jam them to popular flagship phones. EZ MONEY, thats why smart people in USA will not be getting inferior cheap chip in S24 and S24+

Please bring back the speedtestG . Exynos 2400 vs sd8gen 3

Damn, Exynos also have to drag Snapdragon down the water with WiFi 7 locked on S24/S24+ 🙄 What about the NPU differences between the two though?

How about comparing SD 8 Gen 2, with Exynos 2400

TSMC is the superior node and should also be more expensive to make. The Exynos varient should be cheaper

Best commentator I have ever seen better than formula 1 it's garys speedtest g

I love your work but what are you comparing here? Tech info? Wouldn't it be more appropriate to get the phones and test them?

@EmanuilTolev

5 ай бұрын

There are no phones to test. Shipping starts end of Jan.

@salasyee7020

5 ай бұрын

@@EmanuilTolev so maybe wait until it's out?

@EmanuilTolev

5 ай бұрын

@@salasyee7020 Hmm, there will be lots of reviews then. I'd say this is pretty helpful though, he does make it extremely clear in the video that the information is preliminary and not conclusive or even final. I personally ended up here after searching for Snapdragon vs Exynos 2400 and I'm happy he clearly delineated the limits of the info. It'll be outdated in a few weeks but it presents the state of public info very well for now.

Mediatek Helio X30 was 1st deca-core CPU on 10nm process node by TSMC.

@floppa9415

5 ай бұрын

Helio X20 also was a decacore and was fabbed on TSMC 20nm

This year in particular, exynos 2400 seems very very promising. At least on par with snap 8 gen 3. Check the link first and thank me later 😎💪 P.S. Was gutted that Samsung decided to use exynos on the s24+ outside of the US as I was planning to order it, until I saw this video and finally ordered it kzread.info/dash/bejne/mpNs09GqYcXeeLA.htmlsi=HqFetrOVwyNbyz1V

@trignite

5 ай бұрын

Is there any truth to the Exynos modem being worse than the SD though? Some people were complaining about it dropping out. Honestly I dont care too much about peak perforamnce and care more about efficiency and that the phone actually works well as a phone.

I think the exyonos chip in 2 years will be a viable option for their flagships. I do think, as we can see they need some work but i think that theyll be able to catch pace within the next 2 years. Not sahing theyre going to BEAT qualcomm, but i do think samaaung will get to par with them!

Dosent matter what do you mean? my budget is around the s24 maybe s24+ but i get a product which has 26% less CPU power, this will dramatially affect the performance throughout the 7 years updating

@GaryExplains

5 ай бұрын

Where are you getting the 26% number from?

6:55 My man, why is that 'surprising' to ya? 😂 I pretty much assumed it.

@GaryExplains

5 ай бұрын

What was the basis of your assumption? It isn't obvious to me that an 8 core CPU would beat a 10 core CPU in a multi-core test.

@vedanshchn

5 ай бұрын

@@GaryExplains Completely agreed! I still have the same doubt that it might, but historically speaking, Samsung fabricated chips throttle fairly quickly and quite badly. They heat as well and battery efficiency hasn't seen good bright days either be it an Exynos, Tensor or SD chip fabricated by them.

@bulletpunch9317

5 ай бұрын

​@@GaryExplainsa520 cores are really weak. If they both can keep those clocks at max during the benchmark run the 8g3 will be faster.

@Winnetou17

5 ай бұрын

​@@GaryExplains I was surprised too, since the clock differences aren't THAT big. Do you know if there's maybe cache size or speed differences ? And, of course, the RAM might be different too, though I'm not sure how much that matters in Geekbench.

All hate exynos but we have to admit that samsung is making a huge effort improving their own socs, with the rdna 3 in the gpu, a 10 core cpu, and their sistem, so they finally are almost on par with snapdragon (flagship socs only).

I have S10+ 1tb storage but last time i got update i don't remember it was a long time ago. It's Android 12 on my phone. Samsung not releasing new updates for a little bit older devices. So I m using 2 versions older android Samsung device but my device is more powerful and fast enough to run new versions of Android. Even there's paid updates i will do it. But i am thinking next time i will buy something else maybe try Google's devices.

@JCJW101

5 ай бұрын

The S24 has 7 years of updates. Anyway, ai have an S10 5G and I keep it on v10 of Android so I can record calls. Everything works fine.

S22 ultra with exynos was a heating garbage

There are more, targeted benchmarks now. Short story: Snapdragon is somewhat faster, but both SD and Exynos are more efficient than SD 8 gen 2 from last year. In games, Exynos seems to be better than Snapdragon this year. See here + other clips with them gaming tests: kzread.info/dash/bejne/hnV2mtltgdmehrQ.htmlsi=X_oqqrzRhj6m8H48

So I ordered the Samsung Ultra 24 and I got an email that my payment has been confirmed and it will be delivered to my house on the 31st of this month but my question is I have waited 24 hours and got no tracking number yet is this normal do people usually wait days to get a tracking number?

@jokast8861

5 ай бұрын

Bruhh. Why are you everywhere

@Dark.KnightYT

5 ай бұрын

​@@jokast8861 😂

I dont understand why we get a different product in the UK to the US??? This is the only example of something like this I can this happening.

Rather than pushing for lackluster Exynos again and again, they should try Mediatek Dimensity

Do a dimensity 9300 vs sd8gen 3

As a person from the "bane" regions, I was very happy to hear last year that Samsung were finally switching to Snapdragon globally - as a result a bough a S23, but year later they're again two steps back... I don't care about the AI crap - it's cool but how often will you really use it? I don't care about WiFi 7 - who has routers that support that anyway... All I want (and it's not just me) is a small, yet powerful phone with good battery life and in that regard I think they nailed it with the S23! I'm pretty sure that the battery life will suck on Exynos but Samsung doesn't seem to care. I'm not planning to change my phone, of course, but when I do, if Samsung is still deciding to punish me based on where I live, while paying the same amount of money and getting less, I'll simply skip their phones right away, no matter how much better their phone is... in US/Canada... Time will tell, but to me it seems that AGAIN, if you care about the long term support of your phone and you're not lucky enough to live in US/Canada, you have practically two options - a Pixel or an iPhone.

As expected Snapdragon beats in almost every cases Samsung's Exynos. Even collaboration with AMD couldn't save Exynos from Qualcomm's years of experience. AMD also realized that making low power GPU for Arm SoCs isn't the same when making their classic x86 APU. I would say Qualcomm and Mediatek r the top 2 Arm chip designs for Android for Android smartphones/tablet devices. Arm's design with Mali GPU is slightly behind them. Thx Gary for making this one!

The Exynos doesnt even have 6Hz Wifi? That's just stupid

Not sure if Samsung is going all out to show Google our soc is decent. I think Samsung knew people will always go for snapdragon so more sales and better reviews.

I wonder why Samsung do it like this. Doesn't it increase maintenance works for them? Instead of maintaining one, it becomes 2+1.

The Philippines is one of the regions getting thr Exynos for non Ultra. 😂😂😂

S24+ is priced $232 more than US price in my region -_-. I prefer to go S23+ anyway

this why i like the s23 all use snappy bois

Disabling features, what a mess...

I can't agree with the final answer that it doesn't matter. It matters when the phone are so different that one throttles in gaming much sooner than other, or when one has 60fps and other 80fps to start with. It matters also for the money we pay for top specs. It matters after a 1,2,3, 4 or more years of using so than phone has lots of data and apps to work with which can further show differences in power/battery consumption (I plan on sticking with it for longer time). And it matters when one is losing battery during the non-usage period (standby) by noticeable margin than other. Those I mentioned are based on previous Exynos vs Snapdragon findings as well as the new rumours and tests made so far with newest chipsets (fps differences mainly).

@GaryExplains

5 ай бұрын

Hmmm... I don't remember mentioning throttling or battery or what will happen after several years. Where are you getting this information from about the Exynos version of the S24?

@veljkovic92

5 ай бұрын

@@GaryExplains maybe I didn't extend my comment enough, sorry. I pretty much watched every video and looked for tweets about the situation with s24. There was a video on KZread that showed Snapdragon achieving 80fps and Exynos 60 at the same game. However, after some time, contrary to the past experiences with those two processors, Snapdragon throttled more than Exynos. In some other stress tests again, Snapdragon reached higher temps but I'm not sure if Snapdragon has higher thermal threshold overall. My other conclusions considering the performance of both CPUs were based on past experiences and my dissatisfaction with Samsung on topic of Exynos. In the end, I'll wait for your hands on testing to conclude this objectively and really hoping this time Samsung at least made Exynos on par with Snapdragon in terms of thermal regulation and standby battery management.

@veljkovic92

5 ай бұрын

@@GaryExplains kzread.info/dash/bejne/pp6l1KiNitPdhNY.html The tech chap just uploaded the video where it shows Snapdragon is still superior to exynos by very practically noticeable margin.

Please bring back SpeedTest G!

The only thing I care about processor is the battery life I can get from it. So far can’t find any reliable sources on this yet.

@GaryExplains

5 ай бұрын

It is a bit too early for battery life tests. I am sure they will be out very soon. But most reviewers are doing stuff about the cameras, the software, the AI, etc.

It's so off putting that EU is getting the Exynos, while the US, Canada and China gets 8 Gen 3 for the whole lineup

Most likely going to purchase the s24 from what I'm seeing it's not that far of the snapdragons I was one of the unfortunate owners of the note 20 with the Exynos 990 that was the worst stuttery janky horrible experience of my life , it looks like Samsung has improved to be just behind and in touch with the gen 3 chips

Vivo x 100 seems better deal , 9300 is stable and beast 9f processor , vivo only competitor to camera and gaming of samsung .

FYI: many of the things you've claimed are objectively wrong. Im saying this based on hard cold numbers.

@GaryExplains

5 ай бұрын

What did I objectively claim?

@Winnetou17

5 ай бұрын

FYI: Saying "many" then giving exactly 0 examples is objectively a waste of time for anyone involved. Stop trolling.

S20 ultra exynos takes better selfie and shadows compared to snap

Scamsung 😂 they charge you more money for Shitty Exynos S24 compared to the snapdragon what the heckkk

Y’all should want Samsung to continue to make in house processors

@a.b.8375

5 ай бұрын

Then they should lower the prices, asking the same price for 2nd tier chips is just disrespectful.

@owezzel

5 ай бұрын

@@a.b.8375 Maybe too much money in R&D for their chips. Its not like Samsung Chips are trash.

Exynos was better then the Snapdragon equivalent, expect the Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 to be Superior.

@parshakamarsh

5 ай бұрын

Which Exynos was better than the Snapdragon equivalent?

@MaxMustermann-vy7ur

5 ай бұрын

😂

Just don't get why they dont put a Snapdragon 3 in their s24 and s24 plus. Price may go up a bit, but I'll be happy paying that. Just don't want a huge phone.

I’m a simple man, I see a new CPU video from Gary Explains, I press like.

You're slightly wrong here. Samsung isn't just interested in Wi-Fi 7 in lower models just as they weren't for any of S23 models even though SD gen2 had wifi7. That's why Exynos didn't include it. WiFi 7 isn't magic that exynos can't include it.

@GaryExplains

5 ай бұрын

Where do you have this information about what Samsung wants or doesn't want?

@morselrafez3722

5 ай бұрын

@@GaryExplains I wouldn't claim it as information. It's same as your assumption that Samsung altogether cut the WiFi 7 from S24 vanilla and plus models because Exynos 2400 doesn't offer it. Man, many flagships in 2023 had WiFi 7. But Samsung didn't offer it even in their greatest S23 ultra even though SD2 had WiFi 7 and there was no Exynos. No offence but your assumption is totally opposite, Samsung probably just did not feel the need of it for the lower models. That's why Exynos probably did not include it, not vice versa. Again, I could be wrong but to me this sounds more logical given the history with S23 series.

@GaryExplains

5 ай бұрын

So you are making assumptions as well but you feel confident enough to call my assumptions wrong, but your assumptions right. Interesting.

@morselrafez3722

5 ай бұрын

@@GaryExplains On my plea, I did say the word 'slightly' before 'wrong'. BTW early tests show, Exynos 2400 is doing much better than expected. Hope to see a detailed review from you. Also, could you please include further details about the SoC and it's design, the wattage draw, do each cluster have separate voltage supply or not, the peak power(only CPU usage and another only GPU usage) etc results which are difficult to find on internet. Also, please bring back the speed test.

Man they could at least sell the ultra with snap

@GaryExplains

5 ай бұрын

Eh? They do.

@Antal46

5 ай бұрын

Thank god!

Real answer is that, as previously, Samsung puts only the Snapdragon into the entire range they sell in South Korea. If you feel the Exynos processor you make is not good enough for your home country consumers, then why foist it off on other markets? The other thing to watch for is that when they do split the product range (as when they had the S22 Ultra with Snapdragon everywhere for the first time but mixed markets with rest of S22) they tend to do funny things with their software to hamper the performance of the Snapdragon in order to make any differential in benchmarks as artificially small as possible. They stopped doing that in the S23 when they went Snapdragon everywhere for the whole S23 range and, voila, much better performance reported for S23U as it did have a later gen chip but also had not been dumbed down by Samsung. They have turned off wifi 7 for S24 and 24+ so Exynos won't look the dog, so what else have they dumbed down again in the software versions they push to the mixed markets??? If it isn't good enough for South Korea, the home of Samsung, then I'm not buying an Exynos version.

@qPaul

5 ай бұрын

South korea gets an exynos as i know !

Exynos is a mess starting with the naming scheme. I really don't understand why Samsung doesn't make a decision and stick to it. Either the use exynos in everything and make it better or use snapdragon all the way. By puting exynos in the "lower end" s24's they are making a statement that exynos is worse.

As a long time samsung mobile user i can say that the exynos versions are just not up to the mark, historically the snapdragon has hands down been the better chip

I don't get why they have 3 A720 at one speed and other 2 at a different speed, just make them equal lol. Of course AMD gpu is worse than adreno, it's from samsung so it makes sense

Time to put sammy on the blacklist again

China US Canada Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 s24 s24+ s24 U

SD has better single core performance But SD has better multi core performance But in terms of GPU, SD is better than exynos.

There is always a difference. And we will see it with the on-device AI processing. It uses Google Ai, however the processor is crucial in delivering on the feature. Samsung is releasing the S24/S24+ with Exynos, because it is cheaper, as they want to go below Apple. However this stunt is one of the cause of their downfall. Not everybody can afford a S24U and more and more people are being aware that the Exynos is slower and is prone to overheating. Regular customers doesn't care or know which processor they have, but once the complaining starts, the difference comes to light. I have nothing against having their own chipset. Google has it, Apple has it, but you can't put the TOP one available in the Ultra flagman and yours in the other lineup outside of USA and expect to not be blasted. Samsung is going to loose more and more share with these stunts.

Samsung should have rather called the S24 Exynos, something like “S24 FE” with a cheaper price tag than the flagship “S24” (Snapdragon) Samsung shortchanged the majority of the world with their inferior model, incorrectly labelled as “S24”.

Missing battery life

The Exynos 2400 seems very promising and close to the Snap Gen 3. Maybe a 5-15% difference in the 2. Generalizing. Makes sense since the Snapdragon is clocked higher across the board. It may also have faster LPDDR5X memory. 4800MHz vs the Exynos 2400 at 4200MHz.

@FlorinArjocu

5 ай бұрын

About 10%.

@thepirateswirled

5 ай бұрын

At emulation it's probably gonna be 50 % difference, if you look it up how it's been with the past gens, you will know what I mean. Benchmarks doesn't mean much if emulations runs at halfspeed. @@FlorinArjocu

Samsung 2500 needs WiFi 7