I just picture when the US came back 10 years later with the .223 and all the developers for them EM2 were like, "Seriously mates? WTF?"

This is a legendary crossover that not nearly enough people have seen

@latewizard301

2 жыл бұрын

The crossover i never knew happened...

You can feel the heavy musk of gun history knowledge weighing down the air in the room.

I was at the Cody Firearms Museum when I saw the card put out indicating the EM2 was temporarily not available. I cursed those responsible for this inconvenience. After seeing this video I humbly ask for Gun Jesus’ forgiveness for my profane remarks.

The EM2 was so advanced that even had deflector shields.

With all the "retro" and repro guns out there (SMGGUNS FG42, H&M/PTR/Sport-Systeme Dittrich STG-44, and hell, the Brownells clones of late) we *_REALLY_* need some one to start cranking these phenomenal puppys out!

i love the smirk of jon at start of every vid

Thank you , Ian , Thank you , Jonathan .

@NickC_222

4 жыл бұрын

As Conspiracy Catz would say... "SPAAAACE COMMA."

@jonathanferguson1211

4 жыл бұрын

You're most welcome.

Why do I feel like Jonathan has beaten his head against the wall repeatedly trying to keep the different ammunition calibers straight...

@saint-cetacean

3 жыл бұрын

You can hear the humored empathy and lingering mild trauma in his voice

E.M.2 handguard ribbed for your pleasure

@HO-bndk

3 жыл бұрын

Ribbed so the army issue knitted wool gloves of the time won't slip off it so easily.

So it turns out, all the Wildcaters lived in the UK during the '50s.

I think the only British soldier to make full use of the EM2 was Action Man.

@jonathanferguson1211

4 жыл бұрын

Except for a few chaps in Malaya...

@nigelosborne7471

4 жыл бұрын

Don't spoil it I'm waiting for the book.

@richarddixon7276

4 жыл бұрын

In America they called him GI Joe , but he had to make do with the M16 .

@johngreen-sk4yk

4 жыл бұрын

You would be wrong there, I had some britains toy British soldiers equipped with em2,s when I was a kid!lol

@nigelosborne7471

4 жыл бұрын

@@johngreen-sk4yk In that case thousands of Britains troops have been armed with EM2's, I wonder if Jonathan knows..

Back around 1983 my good friend and firearms dealer Pat Walker of Pat Walker Guns owned an EM-2 rifle serial number #2 in 7.62mm built by BSA. He obtained it (and an FG-42) from the Small Arms School Corps collection at Warminster. The then curator and keeper of the weapons collection Major Maurice Fogwell 'swapped' the EM-2 & FG42 which were duplicates in the collection for two Galil rifles (in 5.56 & 7.62mm) that Pat had (we were the then UK agent for IMI smallarms). The EM-2 was missing the UNIT optical sight so I modified an early Aimpoint scope to fit the dovetail on the carry handle. The EM-2 was in great condition and shot well but with stout recoil in 7.62mm. The rubber butt pad had gone rock hard over the years so the rifle could have been more comfortable to shoot originally. Pat sold the EM-2 to a collector in North America (not sure if it was Canada or the US). I would love to know where it is now if anyone knows? I have period photographs of Pat shooting it which I can share....

@Kav.

2 жыл бұрын

There is an EM-2 without a scope in Canada marked 7mm HV. I don't know of any other, I know there might be one in a private collection in the UK but I've not confirmed it yet so I don't know if it has scope or not.

@victuff9765

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kav. I wonder what it's serial number is?

@Kav.

2 жыл бұрын

@@victuff9765 Looking at photos I can't see one where I was expecting it to be (magazine well). As for the UK one, I'll need to see it first to say for sure, I can't find anything out about it.

@Kav.

2 жыл бұрын

@@victuff9765 If you post the photos I can compare the two to see if it's the same type of EM-2. Although iirc the 7.62 and 7mm HV ones are quite similar so it may be hard.

@victuff9765

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kav. not sure how to post a photo here? What photos I have are not close ups and pre- digital bit are scannable...

I wish someone would make a replica in a common caliber. God I love the look of this rifle.

The man is so humble. Although being propably the most knowledgeable being on planet earth considering these rifles, he just keeps himself restrained. IAN! Give him a pat on the back (as you're already doing), strengthen his claims (as you're doing), back up his findings (...). All in all - good cooperation. :D And good job, thank you, to both of you.

hey this was before the game spot series with him, pretty neat

Hello Mr. McCallum.Sorry for my bad english. I from germany. ca.25 Years ago i visit The "Wehrtechnische Sammlung in Koblenz". In this Museum i found an very Intresting Information. It was an AIR-Power Gun-"Sturmgewehr" Prototype for the Bundeswehr. I Remember it was built from the Factorie "Mannesmann". But i am not Sure for this. I mean the Factory. OK, can your find out something to this Gun. Have an Nice Time, Alles gute und bleiben Sie Gesund.

@stonksfromcs1224

3 жыл бұрын

SGT-44 maybe?

@vanconojl

2 жыл бұрын

:O

@hibbelaender9581

2 жыл бұрын

@@stonksfromcs1224 No, not the STG 44. I mean a Air-power Prototype from the Year 1970-1980??

@hibbelaender9581

2 жыл бұрын

@@vanconojl ???

@stonksfromcs1224

2 жыл бұрын

@@hibbelaender9581 ohhh okay i see, sorry bout that

Just yesterday KZread showed me a video of the weapons of Waterloo with Saun Bean. And who do I see buy our Mr.Ferguson. :)

@moosemaimer

4 жыл бұрын

I saw that too

@WozWozEre

4 жыл бұрын

Saun Bean? Brother of Shawn Bean and cousin of Sharpe Star Sean Bean?

@high-velocitymammal5030

4 жыл бұрын

@@WozWozEre Don't forget his dear old uncle, Shon.

@SlavicCelery

4 жыл бұрын

Everytime I see the name Shaun Bean (or any variation of the name), I always think - *Damnit, you're either Shawn Bawn or Seen Been...You can't be both!*

@high-velocitymammal5030

4 жыл бұрын

@@SlavicCelery "Sean Bean" wasn't in there once for that joke to work tho

I Can hardly wait till the books out and I get My copy , hours of joy !

I was trained On the Styer Aug and I Always amazed at how forward thinking it was in the 1970s they made a bull pup rifle with 1.5 scope, forward pistol grip, light weight and an ergonomic magazine which you see how many rounds they had. Only to find out they have had it in the 1950's. I have to wonder was the Styer AUG inspired by the EM 2 or even shared designers on some level. A lot of the designs and controls were the same.

@thekaxmax

4 жыл бұрын

the EM-2 inspired everyone. Shame it didn't get anywhere. The experimental bullpup L1A1 is very similar to it, and the story is cool [www.nvtech.com.au/ProjPast/GP_Inf_Rifle/GPIR.html].

The optical sight (U.O.S.) was trialled with the FAL too. It was intended to aid aiming (no need to align a backsight and foresight) and it incorporated hold over marks too (with an inverted pointer like the later S.U.I.T.). Remember this was all years ahead of its time in the 1950s.

What a gorgeous looking design

@adamjones3818

2 жыл бұрын

It really is a beautiful rifle

I loved this. Great work, fellas.

I would have assumed "Unit" sight would be short for "Unity" sight, as in Single power.

@someguy2741

4 жыл бұрын

@CatchThisFade White Boy The term "Unity Sight" has been used in the past (at the same time period) for tanks.

@jonathanferguson1211

4 жыл бұрын

You're absolutely right in fact. As is now made clear in the book :) It does cause confusion because of the later SUIT and SUSAT, which include the word 'unit' in its other sense.

@someguy2741

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanferguson1211 I am not certain but I seem to recall that the "Unity sight" also included several sighting systems or multiple optics into one visual representation to the shooter. An attempt at Stereo visual using multiple lenses? That would have been cutting edge at the same time period. In the old collections of drawings at work I used to run across 3D stereo imagery of cartography where they would take two images at the same time, then you would use stereo glasses to see the image in 3D by viewing one image with 1 eye and one with the other. It is surprising how good it is. I would be surprised if 3D monocular and binocular sights weren't also being kicked around at the same time as the EM rifles since it was so high tech for its time.

@AttiliusRex

3 жыл бұрын

@CTF WB you realize mr fergusson responded to someguy and said he was correct 😂

@thealandude9146

2 жыл бұрын

@@AttiliusRex LMAO

Just have to say, Johnatan has one of the coolest jobtitles ever.

Jan-usz-ew-ski Yan-ush-ev-ski (Pronounciation approximation with English phonetics) a being pronounced ah instead of eh Januszewski - Means Son of (ski) Janusz. Janusz = Jonathan Jan (the more common usage) = John Hence: Januszewski means son of John Janson would thereby being an anglocized version of it in Swedish tradition. As the Son/sson suffix of a Swedish thing. Compared to the sen suffixed used more in Norwegian/Danish. Johnson would be a complete anglocized version.

Thumb Smashing Flange was the name of my band in high school.

@Glove513

3 жыл бұрын

The Obligatory Trunnion was mine. Just got the book today and it’s a beauty.

That is a very attractive looking weapon.

@sawyere2496

4 жыл бұрын

It looks like it belongs in Fallout or something

@JohnCenaRektU

4 жыл бұрын

@@sawyere2496 hehe www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/43474

@garethfairclough8715

4 жыл бұрын

That's not even the first version of it either. It was done a few years ago.

@john-paulsilke893

4 жыл бұрын

JosephKano you call that pretty? Don’t get me wrong, I’d absolutely love to have it and it would be the prize of my collection, but not the most pleasant looking gun I’ve ever seen.

@Kav.

2 жыл бұрын

@@john-paulsilke893 personal preference. I think it's a very nice looking gun.

You're my favorite channel on youtube and I understand you're trying to sell books but I'm looking forward to this deep dive hitting bottom

This is like the gun equivalent of the Corvette being made mid engine.

This is one of the greatest crossovers in history

One here in Australia at the Lithgow Small Arms factory museum..

There is also a nice write up with detailed photos and drawings of the Initial IPW program rifles and ammo in the 1972 Guns and Ammo Annual written by Major F.W.A. Hobart. Looking forward to the book.....

Beautiful gun

THE GREATEST CROSSOVER THERE HAS EVER BEEN

Another interview at the morgue...

I just love the fact that these two know each other ^^

RIP CANADIAN GUN OWNERS.

@coopthecanadian

4 жыл бұрын

I'm Canadian

@highthereguys

4 жыл бұрын

@@coopthecanadian As am I :P

@stefanmolnapor910

4 жыл бұрын

Hope you band togeather and don't comply! We are rooting for you all!

The crossover I never knew I wanted.

Amazing that an engineer, refugee from German occupied Poland, led the EM2 development team. Hope you got it, Mr Farage?

My 2 favourite gun people's!

Such pristine condition.

So much simpler to have gone with the SLEM straight away and settled Europe on 7.92mm Mauser.

@ScottKenny1978

4 жыл бұрын

Would have been a bit of a sale for the Americans, who were equal in economic power to at least the entirety of Europe after Europe was rebuilt. Had studet not been an (expletives deleted), though, this is a very interesting case of what might have been.

thanks

Someone should reissue the EM2 in 6.5 Creedmoor.

@collinis1

4 жыл бұрын

Wild Bill I agree it’s not worth making, but that is no excuse to buy an mdr.

@zepetv589

4 жыл бұрын

@@bmstylee In what world does this have even the slightest resemblance to the Zip 22?

@axelpatrickb.pingol3228

4 жыл бұрын

@@zepetv589 I believe the point he's making is the absurdity of trying to justify wasting money and effort in a product that is too niche of a market to profit from. Like the HMG StG44...

@hailexiao2770

4 жыл бұрын

Why not just have IWI develop a Tavor 7 in 6.5 Creedmoor?

@wesleygay8918

4 жыл бұрын

@@hailexiao2770 why do that when someone could build a Famas in 6.5? Just as viable I'd say.

Love ur channel and dedication. I think it’s time get an audio pro to set something mobile up for you. Audio quality is your maybe only weak point. No hate, I love what u do for us.

That's a meaty forgrip!

It's a shame this series of videos has such terrible audio (this video is the best audio wise so far tho). There are ways to fix this in editing. You could noise-filter out the background noise, with a free software like "audacity". Then you can normalize the filtered audio, can be done on most editing software or above mentioned software. So just take all recordings, x-amount of hours, and render them as an audio file instead of video. Treat the file as mentioned. Import it back into the editing software with the original raw footage, mute the raw footage and use the new audio instead. Render that out and then you have a fixed new "raw" footage to use when editing vids. This method is also nice for correcting white balance/colours, since you fix all the footage at once and then just use it to edit like normal.

@kez0o9

4 жыл бұрын

Subtitles for now

The Mega Powers of Firearms!

and the insiedes :O ... how does it look through the sight ?

I like to know your thought's of the EM2 vs newer bullpups

@jonathanferguson1211

4 жыл бұрын

Can't speak for Ian but frankly even the L86A2 is streets ahead of E.M. 2, just thanks to a 4x optic, modularity, accuracy, parts life, ease of stripping and cleaning and (believe it or not) reliability. Any modern service bullpup is going to beat E.M. 2; it's an unproven 1940s design. But by god is it stylish and so very British.

Were the hand guards grown in that shape ?

My favourite gun historians together S2

Disassembly video?

I can't help but think, given the shift away from bull pup rifles, that these rifles, although a good design, would not have been as perfect as people imagine them to have been. I think once they were out in the field in large numbers they would have been criticized like every other rifle out there.

@jonathanferguson1211

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. It's easy to lionise weapons that never had to prove themselves. Even the FAL had a lot of early problems, but these were thankfully identified and eliminated in the prototype stage.

@ScottKenny1978

4 жыл бұрын

Having handled an airsoft FAMAS, it's amazingly handy. Assuming that the real thing has similar balance, at least. Some other bullpups, though, are ... Hideously unbalanced. Like the SA 80.

@thekaxmax

4 жыл бұрын

The ones that have been fielded do well and are liked.

@paulbantick8266

Жыл бұрын

@@ScottKenny1978 Hideously? I used the L85 for 13 years. There was nothing noticeable where balance was concerned. In my hands at least, It functioned well, and in those thirteen years, I had just one stoppage. A case got jammed between the ejection port and bolt carrier. the case sticking out at right-angles. All I did was pull it away, forward assisted and carried on firing.

@paulbantick8266

Жыл бұрын

Development from 1951 would have ironed things out. By today, it would surely be seen as one of the best military weapons ever made.

Nice.

Britain's Toys - produced some soldier figures with the EM2 in plastic and metal!

An assault rifle is defined as a selective fire rifle that uses an intermediate cartridge and a detachable magazine. Assault rifles are the standard infantry weapons in most modern armies. the 7.62 x 51 is an intermediate round of the 30.06 so that makes the M14 & FN-FAL an assault rifle.

@fromthebackseat4865

2 жыл бұрын

7.62x51 is not an intermediate, it’s full power. Those are battle rifles, not assault rifles.

Is this approved for use and ownership in Canada ? What...too soon ??

@lib556

4 жыл бұрын

Definitely NOT too soon. The hypocrisy of our scumbag govt needs to be exposed quickly and often. The rules seem to change daily.

@lhmmhl1

4 жыл бұрын

@@lib556 you are letting it happen.

I am wondering why a open bolt gun would not have a fixed firing pin? Is it a safety issue to stop slamfire's?

@ScottKenny1978

4 жыл бұрын

Not slamfires, out of battery firing.

Ian: so 2+2=4? EM2: No

12:40 In other words, they ripped off the ripoffs.

What decently available round these days would be similar to .280 British? Decently available being something like 6.5mm Creedmoor or up.

@mrb692

4 жыл бұрын

TeddyAurum .280 British has about the same energy as 7.62x39. You lose the ballistic advantages of the 7mm bullet, but otherwise they’re surprisingly similar.

@ScottKenny1978

4 жыл бұрын

6.5 Grendel is probably the closest. 7mm HV is effectively 7mm-08.

Would have been nice to combine the .280 bullet with the .308 case.

At about the 5:00 mark, you get the British gun equivalent of an Abbot & Costello routine.

General Sam called you out! (Valorant video) go and demand a duel and tell him he can't run ads on the video you guys film😂

9:30 Smoke Detector?

Brother after so many years of watching you and your KZread channel,today I just want to ask' When you are getting your Hair cut'?. Best of Luck👍

@thekaxmax

4 жыл бұрын

'c u t' [looks it up]

I may have missed it in the flurry of videos on this, uh, series of rifles, but what is the deal with that bayonet (4:00)? That lump on the pommel looks like something a Klingon would design- either that or it's for ending one's foes rightly.

@HO-bndk

3 жыл бұрын

The "lump" swivels out and locks open like you see there so it can fit the Sten MkV and the No. 4 rifle (and the E.M. 2/No. 9/L1A1 rifle) as a bayonet, or it can be swiveled and locked back into the grip to turn it into a fighting/utility knife.

@markfergerson2145

3 жыл бұрын

@@HO-bndk Ah, thank you.

I love this gun so much. Its so interesting. I´d love to have a repro or even an original, but I think that that day never will com. Btw Awesome video and awesome Book

what about TKB-408-2 by German A. Korobov The bullpup assault rifle that lost AK in the trials

@UXB1000

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe Maxim Popenker will cover that in his book, assuming there will be a video between Ian and Maxim.

if you are gonna have a bullpup, in my eyes, you might as well have a battle rifle with a 20+ inch barrel or a lmg/dmr with a long barrel

@ScottKenny1978

4 жыл бұрын

Well, the .280 British is about on par with the 6.5 carcano or Arisaka in terms of power level. So it's really a light battle rifle, not so much an intermediate cartridge.

Can you advise which regiment used the weapon on trials in Malaya during the Communist insurgency?

"Avengers is the most ambitious crossover in history!" Me, an intellectual:

Find someone, who looks at you like Jonathan Ferguson looks at Gun Jesus.

Still waiting for a AO63 review.

@UXB1000

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps Maxim Popenker will cover that in his upcoming book, assuming that there will be an interview between him and Ian.

that bayonet is neato

@louisbeerreviews8964

4 жыл бұрын

shermonruler it’s NATO not neato bayonet it’s not NATO

@Kav.

2 жыл бұрын

You can get very similar No7 bayonets relatively easily. This bayonet is No11 iirc.

Even if forced to use 7.62 NATO, it would have been great if UK had adopted the design. Then, after USA threw every one under the bus by adopting 5.56 (after bullying all of NATO to go 7.62), UK would be justified in modifying the design for that cartridge.

@thekaxmax

4 жыл бұрын

they tried. Was too heavy. So they ended up with the SA-80a1....

@Kav.

2 жыл бұрын

@@thekaxmax they never tried an EM-2 in 5.56 to my knowledge

Da Morgue. With rubber gloves. And NO DEAD BODIES.

Everybody that says this looks like the morgue doesnt know what a morgue looks like

@deadflowers7017

4 жыл бұрын

Depends on the morgue.

Screw that. If it is out of alignment it better have a way for me to adjust it, quickly, or you can keep it. Wait on an armorer to fix it my arse.

@D0NtPh34rTh3R34p3R

4 жыл бұрын

You could always smack it with a rock

...drools

Come on, Polish is easy. The designer name was Kazimierz Januszewski. What's difficult in it?

@jonathanferguson1211

4 жыл бұрын

I can do that too; "Kazimierz Janusewski". How was that?

@jaroslawwalczak2855

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanferguson1211 Just perfect.

Girls: Avengers Endgame is the most ambitious crossover Boys:

Hey Ian, you're in General Sam's video about Valorant lol.

65th

Very pretty. Wish people made 1:2 or 1:10 scale models of this gun. Improved focus on JF's presentation. Easier to follow him.

@jonathanferguson1211

4 жыл бұрын

Me too! The only replicas are the ones they made for toy soldiers :) I'd settle for a 1:6 scale to go with my L85A3 and L129A1...

@somecoder3054

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanferguson1211 I know of Green Wolf that does mini replicas, but right now only their mp5s are available seperately. They have models with miniatures handling equipments with some moving parts. They have an L85A2. Comes with full OTW shirt and velcro patches. If you know of anyone else, why not do a video?

@jonathanferguson1211

4 жыл бұрын

@@somecoder3054 Both my L85A3 (I haven't seen an A2?) and my L129A1 are GWG. The L129A1 was bought from them direct - perhaps they have run out? I don't know much about 1:6 replicas to be honest, I just liked their L129A1 and then went hunting for a decent L85 miniature.

@somecoder3054

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonathanferguson1211 they've run out of the L129s. You can still get the A3 from the miniatures. Planning on getting it for in-law since he's a Grenadier Guard.

filmed prior to his kidnapping by gamespot

You guys can go out?

@ForgottenWeapons

4 жыл бұрын

This was filmed before the pandemic.

All this cartridge talk got me spinnin in circles

@D0NtPh34rTh3R34p3R

4 жыл бұрын

Same lol, I think Ian was a bit confused there too

@jonathanferguson1211

4 жыл бұрын

@@D0NtPh34rTh3R34p3R It's pretty confusing to be honest. I was still getting to grips with it myself when we filmed this (a long time ago).

Annnnd..back in the morgue.

Turns out General Sam watches Gun Jesus aswell.

@neo187420

4 жыл бұрын

Just watched that video a few minutes ago. Had a good chuckle.

Hi

Is anyone here after General Sam

@mcnuttington7122

4 жыл бұрын

Pissboy

One step forward...two steps back...too many, really small factoids...This video is like the appendix to the book...

that is confusing

So modern manual of arms you're supposed to charge a rifle with a right mounted handle - with your left hand? Why? That sounds just unnecessarily awkward.

@thekaxmax

4 жыл бұрын

easy enough to change that to top. Manufacturing changes. It need a few others anyway, so add that to the list.

If the variations confuse gun jesus, none of us stands a chance! ^-^ I actually own what was "claimed" to be an L1A1, but it was a century arms franken FAL. Not a bad gun, but probably not a real L1A1.

@ScottKenny1978

4 жыл бұрын

Well, there were very few actual FAL imported, maybe 1700? Almost everything else is a parts kit build because a different receiver was required to comply with US laws (if you can just drop in a select fire trigger group, it's a machine gun and not importable).

Viable 3D printing needs to hurry up so I can has a replica.

@thekaxmax

4 жыл бұрын

it exists; there's 3d printers capable of making working jet engines out of steel and titanium. Still need to heat-treat the metal, though.