Ex-Goldman Sachs Reacts to GS Working Conditions Survey

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In this video I share my thoughts and views on the leaked Goldman Sachs Working Conditions Survey conducted by 13 first year investment banking analysts. I touch on every slide (11 in total) of the survey and compare the hours and various pieces of information with that of a typical experience of working as a first year analyst in the asset management division. This video is for educational purposes and insight and so I hope you can learn something new from watching it. Were you surprised by anything you learned from this leaked deck? Has this put you off working in the world of investment banking? Let me know in the comments. Thanks for passing by and enjoy the video!
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 - Intro
00:53 - Hours worked
04:00 - Near term retention
05:41 - Effect on physical and mental health
07:21 - Analyst treatment (1/3)
09:03 - Analyst treatment (2/3)
11:38 - Analyst treatment (3/3)
13:23 - Analyst satisfaction
15:21 - Possible impact to GS
16:43 - Select analyst quotes
18:11 - Rectifying the situation
22:42 - My thoughts
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  • @AfzalHussein
    @AfzalHussein2 ай бұрын

    Get all 9 of my Career Guides (plus my Goldman Sachs CV and Cover Letter) for £29.99 here: careerguides.io/plus

  • @sandrapierce4718
    @sandrapierce47183 жыл бұрын

    For people saying £60K a year starting salary in IB is high compensation for selling your life away: £60K salary - 90hrs a week which is actually only £30K for an average 45hr working week. You are only getting paid more because you are technically working 2 jobs, it doesn't mean you earn a lot for the amount of work you do.

  • @anaestheticfilms4494

    @anaestheticfilms4494

    3 жыл бұрын

    In nyc it’s more like 120-150k

  • @ismaileyaqub6335

    @ismaileyaqub6335

    3 жыл бұрын

    lol total comp in london is 75-95k in first year...

  • @sandrapierce4718

    @sandrapierce4718

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ismaileyaqub6335 depends what firm you work for and in what area of IB

  • @joelwillis2043

    @joelwillis2043

    3 жыл бұрын

    If you think the compensation along should be the criterion to evaluate the value of the job you have no idea what you are talking about. Hint: people willing sign up to be overworked precisely because there will be fewer of them to compete against and the experience they gain puts their career on a very fast trajectory.

  • @luigardner5843

    @luigardner5843

    3 жыл бұрын

    there's also a bonus which is like 50-100% of the base starting salary in nyc BB at least.

  • @AliceOnARun
    @AliceOnARun3 жыл бұрын

    I feel bad for the guy/girl who mentioned growing up in a foster home as they’ll be so easily identified within the team (since there’s only 13 responses)

  • @arpitpatel83

    @arpitpatel83

    3 жыл бұрын

    They'll be sacked for sure.

  • @Lemzino

    @Lemzino

    3 жыл бұрын

    It may be possible they didn’t disclose that information as it is optional

  • @mo4105

    @mo4105

    3 жыл бұрын

    They'll be Goldman Sacked lol

  • @samuelclifton771

    @samuelclifton771

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@arpitpatel83 err errr

  • @JJdakilla

    @JJdakilla

    3 жыл бұрын

    How do you know they disclosed it on their CV and/or to colleagues? How do you know if there is only one person who went through foster core in the entire IBD? How do you know that the foster care thing is actually true? So many questions... I highly doubt they would have given that answer if that meant risking to get identified and/or sacked.

  • @kolaignad6495
    @kolaignad64953 жыл бұрын

    Can someone explain why Goldman, a multi-billion dollar company, can't just hire a few extra analysts to offload the current burden?

  • @jethrojacinto2798

    @jethrojacinto2798

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's the old mystique of the banking lore bullshit that all these big banks implement for whatever goddamn reason and no one can really confirm why. Can they hire extra analysts to offload the workflow? Sure. But will they? No.

  • @danish5532

    @danish5532

    3 жыл бұрын

    profit maximisation, hiring more workers leads to a loss in revenue for the firm

  • @cardsharkz485

    @cardsharkz485

    3 жыл бұрын

    Then the employees would realize that their hourly wages suck.

  • @harshadmehta12

    @harshadmehta12

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@cardsharkz485 Many employees who stay long start at these companies after college. They don't have any other benchmark. Maybe they like it really or they seem to be brainwashed. But for me leaving Goldman was one of the best decision

  • @zetch972

    @zetch972

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@harshadmehta12 what division where you in? I’m interning in a middle office role and slightly nervous at the possible prospect of 50+ hours weeks.

  • @aryanaggarwal4117
    @aryanaggarwal41173 жыл бұрын

    The comparison between IB and AM divisions was extremely helpful!

  • @alexochoa3634

    @alexochoa3634

    3 жыл бұрын

    AM front office here. Cannot complain one bit. Can’t imagine working 100 hours and having a 1 out of 10 on personal life scale

  • @jethrojacinto2798
    @jethrojacinto27983 жыл бұрын

    When I entered IBD a few years ago, I didn't expect a 9-5 job but whatever GS is doing is just inhumane and just not sustainable for both the short and long term. Yes you can argue that "well that's banking you know what you signed up for tough shit!" but there's a certain point where it can be not only detrimental to your work output but to your health as well in a critical manner. I've personally seen analysts develop heart and eating disorder problems and some in our pen develop explosive tantrums because you can tell it's just been building up from that 1-2 intense deals they've been working on for weeks and that affects everyone else, especially other analysts. It's just crazy to think that these young people are working for really if you think about it minimum wage with those unbelievable hours. Yes the payoff is great with the added bonus and exit opps, but do you really want to sacrifice those 2-3 precious years of the prime of your life slaving away in your desk for ~105 hours/week and risking your health both in the short and long term like that? Not trying to discourage anyone from trying to enter IBD, it's just something to think about.

  • @em8136

    @em8136

    3 жыл бұрын

    what would you say is a good alternative other than having to go through all the stress etc just for the great exit opportunities?

  • @emerikcirlig4481

    @emerikcirlig4481

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@em8136 Go straight for the Exit options

  • @keatongroom

    @keatongroom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Good point. Just depends on ones goals, but it should definitely be less intense.

  • @pallabimondal6414

    @pallabimondal6414

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was a victim. I joined IBD Syndicate. The experience was horrible and painful. It's hard to forget it.

  • @dans1454

    @dans1454

    3 жыл бұрын

    Regarding a lot of the exit opps, it’s not as if they’re a holiday either. For example PE the hours are still pretty brutal. If there’s one thing I’ve learnt about high finance is that it’s never just a few years sacrifice, there’s always something to work towards and the hours/stress never really becomes manageable until either you leave the industry or reach the very top (MD) but then there is lots of stress/pressure/travelling.

  • @amithbanakar8464
    @amithbanakar84643 жыл бұрын

    I'm currently working in asset management and find the work-life balance perfect. During my time off I focus on my personal investments and side business which would make more money than IB bonuses. I work on average 50-60 hours a week and find it easy to manage my well-being, relationships and hobbies. This report has only cemented my career choices.

  • @annajones9701

    @annajones9701

    3 жыл бұрын

    What side business are you doing

  • @MrReachashish

    @MrReachashish

    3 жыл бұрын

    50 -60 Hrs is also too long. Almost 1.5 times the usual work week of 40 hrs. plus add your commute time and you are spending easily 60- 70 hrs .

  • @JP-js8jr

    @JP-js8jr

    3 жыл бұрын

    even 60 hours have you in the office for 13 hours per day. 7 hours of sleep, 1 hour commute, 1 hour workout, 2 hours of cooking and eating already leave you at 0.. without commute to the gym, without showers and healthcare, no time for friends and family, not even for some reading or other hobbies, saturday you can spend the whole day for housework and grocery shopping, sunday you‘ll need time for yourself after such a week

  • @amithbanakar8464

    @amithbanakar8464

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@annajones9701 I run a maths tutoring class

  • @amithbanakar8464

    @amithbanakar8464

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@JP-js8jr to be clear I do not spend more than 45 hrs at the office this is including commute, lunch and gym in middle of the day. My extra "working" hrs are for my side business which I'm passionate about and don't find it stressful or draining as I am a teaching motivated students. Most evenings I meal prep and would say I have easily 6 hrs of free time and full weekends free.

  • @Guy_LastName
    @Guy_LastName3 жыл бұрын

    "why don't you leave?" when do they have time to look for another role? Unless they quit without a backup plan. If they dont piss all their money away and have a couple months expenses saved then they could.

  • @aysepersona4194
    @aysepersona41943 жыл бұрын

    I work in Germany and it's just not true that due to the nature of the work working conditions can not be effectively influenced. I work in Tech and Tech working conditions, although not even close to IBD working conditions, in the US and UK are also known to be grueling. In Germany its different because of strict regulations on overtime and strict enforcements. This is just slaving away and it is very sad that young people are choosing that lifestyle.

  • @ryanklarnet5905

    @ryanklarnet5905

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thats the nature of tech though, I'm sure Frankfurt IBD hours are on par or near to London

  • @aysepersona4194

    @aysepersona4194

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ryanklarnet5905 don't think so, Frankfurt IBD divisions are frequently made fun of by their anglo Saxon counterparts for working little. Still much more than the regular German worker for sure, but not close to US working hours. It really does come down to culture, unionization and strong regulation enforcement.

  • @Kai-gx4oc

    @Kai-gx4oc

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@aysepersona4194 Frankfurt offices are referred to as „sweat shops“. They are on par or more extreme.

  • @buak809

    @buak809

    3 жыл бұрын

    Man's gotta eat though, you can either pick that, or do nothing. Not many people actually enjoy what they are doing, some of them are pinned against the wall, don't have rich parents or other form of good support. Given that, employers cynically abuse that fact because they will drop heavy shit on you, and what can you do? Quit the job? Without any backup?

  • @joeybingel3487

    @joeybingel3487

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@aysepersona4194 Hey, falls es nicht zu privat für dich ist, wie viele Stunden arbeitest du wöchentlich im Vergleich zu amerikanischen Standorten?

  • @abdur-rahmancheema8625
    @abdur-rahmancheema86253 жыл бұрын

    As a 19 year old who goes to a target university and is (was) seriously considering investment banking, thank you for this video Afzal! I’ve realised lately this type of life isn’t what I want for my twenties. Now that I know I don’t want this type of life I’ve decided if I dont want this type of life I’ll make the most of the years I’m sacrificing by having a great time

  • @jacobk1736
    @jacobk17363 жыл бұрын

    you should do a video, ranking the top banks in order of top to bottom or tier then A*, A, B, C or F based on your opinions or from what you've heard from friends who work at other banks

  • @arhaanm23
    @arhaanm233 жыл бұрын

    The two dislikes were from GS's CFO and CEO 😂 😂😂. Great video as always tho Afzal :)

  • @AfzalHussein

    @AfzalHussein

    3 жыл бұрын

    😄👊🏽👍🏽

  • @nathanwoolley8479

    @nathanwoolley8479

    3 жыл бұрын

    DJ D-Sol would never be hating on a former employee!!

  • @arhaanm23

    @arhaanm23

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@nathanwoolley8479 Someone like you ft. Gia Koka is actually a banger 😂😂😂

  • @jacobk1736
    @jacobk17363 жыл бұрын

    I've recently discovered your page, and now I'm addicted!

  • @ghassenbenhassouna7073
    @ghassenbenhassouna70733 жыл бұрын

    23yo, starting IBD next month, god have mercy on my soul 😂

  • @Jan_Schulte

    @Jan_Schulte

    3 жыл бұрын

    where u startin at?

  • @ghassenbenhassouna7073

    @ghassenbenhassouna7073

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Jan_Schulte Capital African Partners

  • @byblispersephone2.094

    @byblispersephone2.094

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ghassenbenhassouna7073 good luck 🤞🏽

  • @satvindermudan5006

    @satvindermudan5006

    3 жыл бұрын

    Why are you whining? Don’t do it

  • @ghassenbenhassouna7073

    @ghassenbenhassouna7073

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@satvindermudan5006 im not, im actually very excited

  • @JJdakilla
    @JJdakilla3 жыл бұрын

    "They get work at... stupid o'clock" 😂

  • @Matthewhaden13
    @Matthewhaden133 жыл бұрын

    I remember reading an article on how David Solomon got annoyed when some analysts at a restaurant in the Hamptons came up to him because they weren't working... despite him also not working and being at the same restaurant

  • @MeenBack

    @MeenBack

    3 жыл бұрын

    He is the CEO. He worked long hours when he was an analyst

  • @FrenchPaperz

    @FrenchPaperz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha he is the ceo, he can do whatever he wants

  • @rahul87184

    @rahul87184

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MeenBack you think CEOs start at the analyst level? Lol

  • @MeenBack

    @MeenBack

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@rahul87184 Maybe not in Goldman Sachs, but in another bank/institution. Everyone applies for analyst roles after graduating. No one applies as Managing Director at 23.

  • @MrTopparwear

    @MrTopparwear

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@FrenchPaperz Nice leadership, good luck with that. I can see you have no management skills lol

  • @sion9453
    @sion94533 жыл бұрын

    Really great video Afzal, I like that you alwyas give unbiased insight it’s very helpful. Thank you!

  • @nezmustafa4271
    @nezmustafa42713 жыл бұрын

    Going to bed at 3am and coming to work before 9am? What quality of work are they producing with that little sleep/rest I wonder?

  • @ThisIsMTH

    @ThisIsMTH

    3 жыл бұрын

    Don't forget the coke will keep them going.

  • @nezmustafa4271

    @nezmustafa4271

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ThisIsMTH heart attack.

  • @mickeybubzx33

    @mickeybubzx33

    3 жыл бұрын

    And not even 9. They have to wake up before 9 so they can shower, brush their teeth, eat, etc. that’s way too much

  • @DP-cd5wr

    @DP-cd5wr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not good quality. Have worked with GS on a couple of projects. They are all clearly very intelligent, but they make ridiculous decisions and I'm convinced it's completely down to them operating on fumes. No human can sustain that and function at the higher end of performance.

  • @Lemzino
    @Lemzino3 жыл бұрын

    Possibly the best thumbnail you’ve made haha!

  • @Lemzino
    @Lemzino3 жыл бұрын

    100% right about people still applying, sadly just how it’ll stay, pay is very attractive which people look way beyond

  • @emmamackt
    @emmamackt3 жыл бұрын

    great that you did a video on the report - very valuable for people to realise how inhumane this working environment is.

  • @arrrhaitch4563
    @arrrhaitch45633 жыл бұрын

    Another very insightful video. We need to get this bro to 100k subscribers!!

  • @ImproperPT
    @ImproperPT3 жыл бұрын

    Love the videos! You should make one on how to make a good first impression when starting to work at a new firm, just an idea!

  • @maxwulz9283
    @maxwulz92833 жыл бұрын

    I waited for that Video!

  • @AfzalHussein

    @AfzalHussein

    3 жыл бұрын

    Enjoy!

  • @element9677
    @element96773 жыл бұрын

    I remember starting college with a goal to become a financial analyst/IB. I had to write a paper about the work life and I disliked it so much I switch my major to electrical engineering. Best choice I ever made and now I’m planning to earn my masters

  • @peanutbutterchocolatecake6182

    @peanutbutterchocolatecake6182

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same, but keep in mind there are other options outside of IB. There are so many jobs in the finance sector with decent pay and good WLB.

  • @ayesha1910
    @ayesha19103 жыл бұрын

    Afzal coming in F A S T !! He does not sleep on these reactions!! Love the work ethic!!

  • @Balotelliitubbies
    @Balotelliitubbies3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for this video ! Please, do a video about private banking, opportunities, things to consider etc. Thank you !

  • @alhyene4212
    @alhyene42123 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video bro, much appreciated.

  • @user-bm6ce7hw5x
    @user-bm6ce7hw5x3 жыл бұрын

    trim coming patterned my guyyy👌🏾

  • @vedantjain2196
    @vedantjain21963 жыл бұрын

    Thanks a lot for this video

  • @shahbajsaiyed9853
    @shahbajsaiyed98533 жыл бұрын

    Indeed a productive and informative video... It shows what is the difference between imagination and reality.

  • @rupertbear8512
    @rupertbear85123 жыл бұрын

    In regard to the 80 hour week cap, I think it should be expected that during big deals there should be extra work put in, but surely they could set a finite yearly number of weeks for those occasions with a sort of "clock-in" system the firm signs off on before entering those periods. Maybe turn over rates isn't a big deal in IB but practically every piece of organisational psychology literature states otherwise. I'm looking at the big-4 for a little more balance, and don't mind a 60-70 hour week, but we both know every 5 hours you stick onto the end of that limit really just has diminishing returns - especially over the long term.

  • @RollsReus-tm6hu

    @RollsReus-tm6hu

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yah this is an industry where its expected to be a revolving door for the majority of juniors. The typical IB to PE life cycle is, you do your two years in investment banking, then get recruited to a private equity firm. In all honesty, a lot of the analysts already have their exit planned out midway through the second year. Meaning an offer on the table they've accepted and are keeping quiet until a few weeks before their 2 year anniversary. There are of course the associates and up who are doing this longer term but yah, i'd say thats gotta be less than half of the people who get into this business to begin with.

  • @dimitrimoisa5792
    @dimitrimoisa57923 жыл бұрын

    Afzal keeping it real as always

  • @em8136
    @em81363 жыл бұрын

    idk why but your voicing is so soothing 😂

  • @nikolasspranger6670
    @nikolasspranger66703 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Greets from Brazil

  • @cipoable
    @cipoable3 жыл бұрын

    I really liked the video, very well done! What I didn't appreciate much, is the fact that it seems like you justified the bank. Even if the reasoning sounds logical, it musnt be that way. The thing is simple: working more than X hours is illegal, for a series of reasons. When something is illegal, it must be punished and changed. This is slavery and it is not much distant from serfdom

  • @MrMcfire2
    @MrMcfire210 ай бұрын

    Really appeciate your balanced approach when it comes to your videos - helps makes your videos higly valuable

  • @AfzalHussein

    @AfzalHussein

    10 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @netayconnection6236
    @netayconnection62363 жыл бұрын

    Same here I was waiting for these videos

  • @tellercruz9706
    @tellercruz97063 жыл бұрын

    Quality over quantity. Work smart, not long. The mind and body are your vehicles to your happiness and wealth, do not destroy them to put money in someone else's bank account.

  • @bindybooyona1
    @bindybooyona13 жыл бұрын

    Hey Afzal, could you comment on why printing pitch books and material in general is still such a big deal in 2021 when we have all the tech we need to make presentations entirely digital? Great video as always ✌️

  • 3 жыл бұрын

    Great video. On the point of being shouted at, there's no need for that. Thick skin not required. Managers need to treat people with respect, be fair, but firm. Clear instructions, strict discipline without raising the voice. Hire talent, not time wasters.

  • @cate1512
    @cate15123 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, Afzal. Do you reckon your insights apply to MBA associates too? Also, according to your experience, do you think there are some differences in IBD culture between banks i.e. GS vs CS?

  • @eeekkk34235
    @eeekkk342353 жыл бұрын

    Never been this early in my life ha. Would you say the type of work junior analysts do in asset management is similar to work done in the IB division? Putting together pitch decks allbeit for a different purpose etc...

  • @samuelskillern7365
    @samuelskillern73653 жыл бұрын

    Very good insight. I may be past my chance to enter high finance right after I earn my bachelor's, but after I earn my JD and hopefully MBA, this video will help remind me of what I will get into. Hoping to get into M&A or PE.

  • @solomonogunbodede5689

    @solomonogunbodede5689

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same here. I have completed my LLB and I’m about completing my LLM too. Hoping to have a switch to M & A or Private Equity.

  • @Kazakhwoman
    @Kazakhwoman Жыл бұрын

    Thank you a lot❤❤❤❤

  • @RubanPillaiClips
    @RubanPillaiClips3 жыл бұрын

    Great video breakdown thank you - i thought CS stood for Corporate Sustainability / another acronym for CSR etc

  • @AfzalHussein
    @AfzalHussein3 жыл бұрын

    Were you surprised by anything you learned from this leaked deck? Has this put you off working in the world of investment banking?

  • @keatongroom

    @keatongroom

    3 жыл бұрын

    Definitely want working hours to improve

  • @benjaminwilliams2404

    @benjaminwilliams2404

    3 жыл бұрын

    Great video thank you 😉

  • @raysshine3504

    @raysshine3504

    3 жыл бұрын

    Afzal is the big bonuses and salaries only in the cities like London or New York or is it the same as those cities .

  • @Sai-tek

    @Sai-tek

    3 жыл бұрын

    No but for someone who is a nerd it's awesome.

  • @raysshine3504

    @raysshine3504

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@Sai-tek Are you talking to me or afzal

  • @hamzahzahid6753
    @hamzahzahid67533 жыл бұрын

    Epic vid !👍 Could you please do a video on Entrepreneurship & what was your thought process going into it. Thanks a bunch!!

  • @vincentnnyc
    @vincentnnyc3 жыл бұрын

    It’s been well known IB for the first 2 years average between 80 - 100 hours/week. That’s why you see it is a revolving door and you see most quit IB and left for something else. Am I correct?

  • @Yeah17709
    @Yeah177093 жыл бұрын

    Such an insightful watch - thank you. Question: in your experience, as most go to large IBs for experience and later move to Hedge Funds etc. is there not a more reasonable way to get the same level of experience without the unhealthy lifestyle?

  • @louisgrocott1543
    @louisgrocott15433 жыл бұрын

    Nice video, do one on corporate banking, much better hours and better bonuses than AM at the right bank. Also corporate rather than commercial, I see the distinction as Commerical being for SME's and corporate for blue chips - much different game.

  • @tube.brasil

    @tube.brasil

    11 ай бұрын

    You mean Citi, JPM and BoA.

  • @CrowPlaysHD
    @CrowPlaysHD3 жыл бұрын

    Guess I'll stay with Big Four and continue doing my 8 hours/day and fill the rest with side hustles.

  • @nikhilpadhiar2273

    @nikhilpadhiar2273

    3 жыл бұрын

    Big Four, 8 hrs/day? REALLY? - not the case for me haha

  • @cheezeboyyen

    @cheezeboyyen

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nani?!?

  • @LucasLima-sz4kg

    @LucasLima-sz4kg

    3 жыл бұрын

    Nice joke, fresher

  • @NamaDoodoo

    @NamaDoodoo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Depends where and what you’re doing at big 4. Some work much longer hours

  • @mattheww4019

    @mattheww4019

    3 жыл бұрын

    cap

  • @luccarallo6580
    @luccarallo65802 жыл бұрын

    great video👍

  • @neils9420
    @neils94203 жыл бұрын

    This is golden Afzal

  • @deekay9855
    @deekay98553 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a video on how to change from Investmentbanking (M&A) to Asset Management. What do you have to take in account? Would be very interesting!

  • @almas6001
    @almas60013 жыл бұрын

    How did you find the culture at Goldman’s overall? Is it one of the reasons why you did leave? Maybe you could do a video about it?

  • @EM-yj2fr

    @EM-yj2fr

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very good question. Definitely want to know that as well. Afzal just stayed there for 3 years I think...

  • @GMoretti-ux1pe

    @GMoretti-ux1pe

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@EM-yj2fr I think he answered this pretty in-depth last year, can't remember the video name though

  • @EM-yj2fr

    @EM-yj2fr

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dsatish1997 It is relevant since the survey is about the culture at Goldman Sachs as a whole.

  • @SamJones-jg4lf
    @SamJones-jg4lf3 жыл бұрын

    Got accepted into my MSc Investment Management which grad schemes would you recommend following this or would you suggest looking straight at hedge fund/ P Equity? Class vid as per!

  • @isaacvanvoorhis7108
    @isaacvanvoorhis71083 жыл бұрын

    Wow... it amazes me that humans are able to do that

  • @jethrojacinto2798

    @jethrojacinto2798

    3 жыл бұрын

    Not without sacrificing something in return.

  • @decus9544

    @decus9544

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jethrojacinto2798 Even so, it's remarkable. If my life literally depended upon it, I can tell you that I wouldn't be able to work such hours, or even close to it, for more than a couple of weeks.

  • @hungrylion7742

    @hungrylion7742

    Жыл бұрын

    @@decus9544 same here man.

  • @Unbiased-mp6sg
    @Unbiased-mp6sg3 жыл бұрын

    If we focus on sample size of survey its pretty small, it can be seen on one of the slides "13 first year analyst".

  • @karansharma2738

    @karansharma2738

    2 жыл бұрын

    nd i think its new york one cause every IB in new york is shit hole for you well being

  • @JP-js8jr
    @JP-js8jr3 жыл бұрын

    these hours are just possible as the analysts themselves are competitive. they could say no to tasks and cap their work at the hours mentioned in their contract, but there will be some other guy doing the work and they can be replaced. as long as there are people willing to do the work, why should the bank change its structures and conditions?

  • @zSkandal
    @zSkandal3 жыл бұрын

    Can you do a comparison between prop. desk on IB and HF?

  • @danygebran2091
    @danygebran20913 жыл бұрын

    Hey Afzal. Great video as always. I just have a small question concerning your courses. It seems they aren't free, as I need to buy premium.

  • @johnbailey3351
    @johnbailey33513 жыл бұрын

    How much would one's mental abilities decline with only 5 hours sleep over say several months? When I was a company commander in the Army I slept 4-5 hours Monday thru Thursday night and probably 5-7 hours typically on Friday thru Sunday night. When I left command my PT scores went up 20-30 points although I was working out only 2/3rd's as hard. I am pretty sure there was also some mental decline, as well as the physical decline, from only getting 30 hours sleep most weeks for over two years.

  • @taresy6789pp
    @taresy6789pp3 жыл бұрын

    for what you put in, is what you get out determination perseverance and resilience allow you reach your goal and objectives in life

  • @alexlitten7337
    @alexlitten73373 жыл бұрын

    Great video! How are the hours for analysts in wealth management? I've heard they are much better?

  • @AfzalHussein

    @AfzalHussein

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! Similarly to AM.

  • @chrishaseli8053
    @chrishaseli80533 жыл бұрын

    just a question sir, are invesment bankers and CFA's the same thing? And if not, please could you explain the differences. Thank you sir.

  • @Sandy83
    @Sandy833 жыл бұрын

    I have been watching your videos all day, you cover such interesting topics. I work in big tech and the culture it's very similar as in the investment industry, the good and the bad. Have you ever seen the documentary The Men Who Stole The World about the traders, bankers and investment execs during the 2008 crisis? Think it would make a great 'Ex-Goldman Sachs REACTS' video.

  • @keatongroom
    @keatongroom3 жыл бұрын

    Where does wealth management division fit into the front office, back office, buy side, sell side matrix?

  • @senanuahiable1701
    @senanuahiable17013 жыл бұрын

    Okay with the fresh cut

  • @triple965
    @triple9653 жыл бұрын

    It is still puzzling to me why the investment banking divisions of old school banks have not embraced technology to the same extend as e.g. trading desks? The real question remain, will the "investment banker" position still exist during the next decade? What happens when corporates get full access to same amount of tools and data as investment bankers? Is corporate access and not power points really the true value add for this industry?

  • @tiberiodigiorgio2032
    @tiberiodigiorgio20323 жыл бұрын

    Jusus Crist! I'm a Insurance Agent in Italy , and I work 75-80 Hours a week , because this Is my First Years in the Business , and I think that i doing the impossible but when i look this numers i was impress. 😳😶😶☹️😳

  • @jacobk1736
    @jacobk17363 жыл бұрын

    would you recommend working in assets management or investment banking, also what are the main differences in the jobs, like what do they do?

  • @jaydenko7312
    @jaydenko73123 жыл бұрын

    Interesting that it says "13 respondents". I wonder if the numbers would remain the same if they had more respondents?

  • @roejrnj2858
    @roejrnj28583 жыл бұрын

    I generally agree with your thoughts. On a broader note, how do you think this will affect IB recruiting vis-a-vis competing with other industries to attract graduates? Banks have been increasingly struggling with tech firms to attract high-calibre graduates. After all, why put yourself through this when you could work better hours, do more interesting work (although I appreciate that this is arguable), be at the centre of innovation, with just as good a brand name on your CV?

  • @tube.brasil

    @tube.brasil

    11 ай бұрын

    A lot of kids now would rather go to fintechs or startups.

  • @decus9544
    @decus95443 жыл бұрын

    I'm genuinely unsure how anyone even could work those hours, I think I'd be physically unable to do so, personally.

  • @djStens

    @djStens

    3 жыл бұрын

    Big Salary, caffeine and cocaine

  • @hungrylion7742

    @hungrylion7742

    Жыл бұрын

    @@djStens 😂😂

  • @taabishkhanself-improvemen7331
    @taabishkhanself-improvemen73313 жыл бұрын

    24:11 - I agree. I was a bit shocked when I saw this news story being circulated and gaining attention. Investment banking has been like this for years, the 95-hours a week thing is not a new concept. People who apply to IB know what they're signing up for.

  • @Sahota2002

    @Sahota2002

    3 жыл бұрын

    It was more people who know nothing about the industry that were shocked by it and then it gained traction

  • @gmtwows6090
    @gmtwows60902 жыл бұрын

    Is it possible and/or common for asset management workers to switch to PE or Hedge Funds?

  • @kingsuch995
    @kingsuch9953 жыл бұрын

    As soon as I saw the article I started waiting for your video 😂😂

  • @mohima8247
    @mohima82473 жыл бұрын

    fresh trim!

  • @AfzalHussein

    @AfzalHussein

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shout-out to the wifey 💪🏽💪🏽

  • @Quickb3n
    @Quickb3n2 жыл бұрын

    A good software engineer can achieve the same compensation and work a flexible 8 hour day. I can't imagine putting up with working conditions like these.

  • @PlatinumBuckGorilla
    @PlatinumBuckGorilla3 жыл бұрын

    Even if it is 100K a year. I’d rather pass and enjoy my life. “Goldman Slaves” more like Mordern day slavery. I wonder how much the business itself rakes in as a result of these workers hard work. Absolute bollox.

  • @jaideepchahal491

    @jaideepchahal491

    3 жыл бұрын

    People go into it knowingly though. They go, do it for a few years, and then leave with a shining CV and savings account.

  • @PlatinumBuckGorilla

    @PlatinumBuckGorilla

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jaideepchahal491 not disputing your response whatsoever. I’d rather pass and enjoy my life.

  • @TommyBergstrom
    @TommyBergstrom3 жыл бұрын

    I don't have time to spend so much at work, i have a lot of other things to take care of like work out, play csgo and play golf and hang out with friends. But you that work so many hours at a bank is doing good, it is an important work you do and you are important!

  • @svlagonda7417
    @svlagonda74172 жыл бұрын

    These places are horrific on terms of work demands.

  • @raysshine3504
    @raysshine35043 жыл бұрын

    Hello I have a question Where in IB do you make the most cash (forget the work life balance) S&T or IBD ???

  • @lukyluukehfk5247
    @lukyluukehfk52473 жыл бұрын

    How many hours in am at gs on average? You just said its hugely diffrent but you said no number per week

  • @awellis4405
    @awellis44053 жыл бұрын

    Sees Afzal Hussein video Instant click

  • @AfzalHussein

    @AfzalHussein

    3 жыл бұрын

    Haha! Thanks!

  • @azw2236
    @azw22363 жыл бұрын

    the biggest thing on this survey which isn't being covered (as it's not the headline) is the percentage of analysts who say they have experienced abuse. i'd be surprised if no one internally reaches out to them on this...

  • @Gustavo-vi7dd
    @Gustavo-vi7dd3 жыл бұрын

    Talk about Equity Research too. I feel left out 😥

  • @peytonstaniorski6979
    @peytonstaniorski69792 жыл бұрын

    Hey, can anyone recommend a video that explains the exact differences between asset management and investment banking?

  • @azarael77
    @azarael773 жыл бұрын

    I'm just laughing at the people who still decide to work in investment banking, strategic consulting etc. In my eyes, these people totally lost track of their lives and yet believe that they are the winners. The greatest achievement of modern society is the existence of free time and the freedom to do with it, what you want. And still there are people who throw all this away, who spent their best years in life working like slaves just to earn money they cannot spend due to lack of free time. And those are people who are clever enough to do jobs with way better conditions that are also payed well. But still they decide that money is more important than freedom, than a basic health level, than social contacts, than spending time with the people they love. It's ridiculous.

  • @lennynsiala-mandard3300

    @lennynsiala-mandard3300

    3 жыл бұрын

    I'm sorry to tell you but........If you think it's just about money, you're a fool.

  • @lennynsiala-mandard3300

    @lennynsiala-mandard3300

    3 жыл бұрын

    The greatest achievement of modern society is free-time ? Clearly not. The greatest achievement of the modern society is that, if you're willing to work hard enough, you can reach the very top of society. The meritocracy of work condition and social status is their reality. And they'll benefit from another standard of life than middle-class worker. It isnt just about the money. It is about being on top of most of the society. It is about becoming the people who implement global-change in the society. It is about being the subject of jealousy, yet admired through modern eyes. It is about status.

  • @LeviDocs

    @LeviDocs

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean the way I look at it is slave away from 22-26 and with raises and bonuses you can save approx 1 million dollars (Toronto). Money gives you the flexibility to choose what you want later on and IB gives good exit opportunities for less stressful jobs with that nest egg IB built for you in your back pocket.

  • @spxfabien
    @spxfabien3 жыл бұрын

    what do you think of the recent forced liquidation of Archegos

  • @1AWUK
    @1AWUK3 жыл бұрын

    Referencing this video for my business university essay on toxic leadership lol

  • @user-zm6cc6bu3s
    @user-zm6cc6bu3s3 жыл бұрын

    I am working in investment banking in Canada. ~70 hours a week average (some weeks as bad as GS) but pay is ~C$170k / year. Also NO ONE can yell or swear at you, just generally frowned upon (even most senior people are courteous / polite / professional).

  • @luigardner5843

    @luigardner5843

    3 жыл бұрын

    are you at BB or boutique?

  • @karag4487

    @karag4487

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is it because Canadians are nicer people in general?

  • @user-zm6cc6bu3s

    @user-zm6cc6bu3s

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@luigardner5843 Big 5 canadian bank

  • @subliminalchamp2082
    @subliminalchamp20823 жыл бұрын

    Well, the average employee make 350k a year though. Supply and demand people, as long as workers want the job they can do what they want

  • @persononinternet7868
    @persononinternet7868 Жыл бұрын

    Would I be right in saying that a GS Analyst works at the back?

  • @JackSmith-rs7fn
    @JackSmith-rs7fn3 жыл бұрын

    I really like this guys voice

  • @deepinspace9336
    @deepinspace93363 жыл бұрын

    That’s what makes us stand out because we are used to being shouted at 😂

  • @jondash2939
    @jondash29393 жыл бұрын

    Would you say the workload in nyc is more or equal to london

  • @zhuzhiboo2771
    @zhuzhiboo277117 күн бұрын

    As per the regulations, all banks will be closed on Sundays, second and fourth Saturdays. Thus, they are not always working 7 days a week.

  • @rohanbansal5243
    @rohanbansal52433 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it's just me, but I don't have any sympathy for anyone in the investment banking industry. The compensation for the long hours is the high pay , simple. I chose not to apply for investment banking as I value work life balance. You can't have your cake and eat it

  • @brandondsouza6133

    @brandondsouza6133

    3 жыл бұрын

    Well when you break that high pay into $/hr. You would rather prefer working 2 different jobs. One where you gotta go make the cheddar. 2nd, where you can do something you love