Brexit helps Americans because it lets us know we’re not the only ones going through an embarrassing phase of dysfunctional political idiocy

@coastsouljah

9 ай бұрын

Idiocy implies accident or unplanned. I think that's a gross underestimation.

@coastsouljah

9 ай бұрын

You got jacked. Someone made serious $$$ off your inattention.

@AmeriMutt76

9 ай бұрын

Aren't a gaggle of usefull idiots key to any plan hatched by the Oligarch class? Can't steal democracy without dummies to vote.

@ACoolKidsProduction

9 ай бұрын

Yep. And when they both happened, I thought "At least Trump is limited to 4-8 years. Brexit could go on forever."

@caydcrow5161

9 ай бұрын

Yeah cause the EU is the embodiment of political superiority🤣🤣

I thank the brave people of UK for sacrificing themselves to show the rest of Europeans how quiting the EU is a terrible idea, their example serves to discourage others

@songsmith31a

9 ай бұрын

We Brits of a more individual self-respecting kind can live with that. We achieved what made our past so noteworthy by our creative enterprising efforts across the WORLD. Europe can look to itself and hope that its incessant conflicts and diplomatic failings can be limited by the political intentions of "The Project" across the continent.

@renatolima1166

9 ай бұрын

​@@songsmith31a😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@Skarpo89

9 ай бұрын

"creative enterprising efforts", are you referring to the exploitation and killing of a big part of the rest of the world?

@AnthonyPurvis-bq5wp

9 ай бұрын

​@renatolima1166 and your intellectual response to Britain being great is a few imoticons, really ??

@danielm5535

9 ай бұрын

“Creative enterprising efforts across the world” = Murder and maiming in the colonies, feeding its wealth by stealing from impoverished countries. That era is gone, will never return.

Watching Britain realizing it’s not an empire anymore but as much dependent on others as the others, is as hilarious as it is tragic

@lookinaturmom

8 ай бұрын

lol London is THE financial hub of the world. GB is still a major player on the world stage

@davfree9732

8 ай бұрын

@@lookinaturmom Pity the London mayor is a POS. So many UK problems can be found nesting in London thanks to his inadequate leadership and focus on agendas that don't serve the people who elected him. He's the Justin Trudeau of GB.

@shapelessed

8 ай бұрын

@@lookinaturmom "THE" hub...? Is that why nobody cares about the British Pound other than... Well. Britain? Considering this title slips between their and American hands constantly, and the fact that USD is generally more cared about, I think I will disagree here.

@potatosalad9085

8 ай бұрын

@@lookinaturmom Not GB, London, the rest of the country is slowly falling apart

@GCS88

8 ай бұрын

@@lookinaturmom Thats New York kid and one of the major player (not a unique status) and falling every year, India just took Your spot didnt it? but dont let Your exceptionalism stop You for making a fool out of yourself

The "let's rejoin" sentiment, in the typical British approach to the EU, overlooks a very significant detail. While it's you and only you decides whether to leave, there are almost 30 others who have to UNANIMOUSLY agree to let you (re)join. And we have not forgotten the shenanigans when the UK was a member. Also, the Bregret will disappear as soon as the UK does a bit better, because the fundamental issue is still there: the superiority complex that a lot of British have.

@DaDARKPass

8 ай бұрын

The "We won't want you" sentiment, in the typical KZread Commenter approach to Brexit is a very significant deal. While it's you and only you decides whether to post retarded bullsh*t, there are almost 30 actual countries led by governments who will unanimously agree to let the UK rejoin. And that's because they're not retarded high schoolers who hold a grudge against others - they're countries that would be happy to have better relations with another country.

@Resurgam1985

8 ай бұрын

This.

@ChartreuseDan

8 ай бұрын

*IF* the UK does a bit better. The view from the inside is not promising. The UK could just keep declining for centuries, stranger things have happened, especially as the other member-countries of the UK jump ship. And, thanks to the UK, if the UK never manages to get it's debt to GDP ratio within acceptable parameters then outside and terminally declining it will stay

@DaDARKPass

8 ай бұрын

@@ChartreuseDan I get UK bashing is fun, but don't kid yourself. It will get better. The UK has gone through worse things and came out stronger.

@ChartreuseDan

8 ай бұрын

@@DaDARKPass The UK hasn't come out of *anything* stronger since 1858. Since then it's just been cannibalising parts of empire and the industrial revolution in order to appear as though it's not rotting into obscurity without interruption. There were things that could have been done, dividends that could have been reinvested but weren't, but now? What demand can the UK fill better than anyone else?

ngl British politics has been my favourite sitcom these years

@francoisleyrat8659

Жыл бұрын

Same for me. Brexit has been my soap opera in the last few years. I need my daily episode ...

@thecryingsoul

Жыл бұрын

We outside observers have been sorely lacking in sitcom drama with the change in the US government, I'm glad the UK volunteered to take their place

@jamiebee1231

Жыл бұрын

As a uk citizen, I’m glad you’re enjoying the show, just wait till the next season, it’s gonna get even better

@tlk889

Жыл бұрын

It literally replaced "Yes, minister" for me.

@sosukelele

Жыл бұрын

It's been this and US politics, though I might class that as more of a drama

Who would have thought believing Boris Johnson was a bad idea.

@Rosskles

Жыл бұрын

Cult of personality is the dumbest and most dangerous type of politics.

@jasc4364

Жыл бұрын

Boris Johnson knew

@classicismeroyal9044

Жыл бұрын

yeah try to blame a politician instead of blaming the stupid public

@porthmeor1

Жыл бұрын

@@classicismeroyal9044 I think you'll find he was blaming both....

@jonmould2946

Жыл бұрын

The EU UN is still imposing their stupid new policies regarding insulation and green rubbish which will put homeowners into a lot of debt.

The UK reminds me of those fish at the end of Finding Nemo, that finally manage to escape the dentist’s office, and after celebrating for a bit, they find themselves bagged in the ocean, completely fucked, and asking “now what?”

Britain: *puts up trade barriers with biggest trading partner* *economy suffers* Britain: *surprised Pikachu face*

@scottytoast5

Ай бұрын

And now Scots are wanting independence, I ain't surprised.

@Ju5tBU

Ай бұрын

Yeah I’m not surprised, common sense in this country is no longer common

Britain after the brexit referendum was a collective therapy for most people outside UK. It’s so calming to know that there is an entire country of people messed themselves up more than I do.

@uweinhamburg

Жыл бұрын

§50 of the EUropean Constitution offers the chance for any member to leave. When there is a chance, we all know that someone will make use of it at some time. The Brits did offer to be the first to take one on the chin for the rest, and now every other country can see what it means. Thank you, UK - no Schadenfreude here, but better you than us 😉😏

@jackoh991

Жыл бұрын

I'd argue an entire generation messed up their kids generation

@rossmorton7002

Жыл бұрын

I'm ashamed to admit that I didn't vote in the referendum. Mainly because I, foolishly, trusted the British public not to be bloody stupid. They definitely proved me wrong, didn't they? I learned my lesson, though, and have voted in practically everything since.

@robertspengeler6632

Жыл бұрын

The bancruptcy of an Empire. Nothing special.

@dombrandon3018

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't the entire country., it was 16.8 million who were duped and chose not to see past the lies they were fed I'm a Brit and I'm ashamed of what happened. Much of it was driven by underlying racism but much of it was well-orchestrated preying by big money-men on the section of society who are less well-off, with less to lose (or so they thought) and who, statistically, are the less educated and, as such, were the easiest to manipulate with lies. I hope that doesn't sound trite but it's the truth of what happened. Make them angry, tell them it's not their fault that they don't have everything they want in life, point them towards an 'enemy' as the reason for their failures and promise them that if the 'enemy' is defeated, everything will be better. It's a tried and tested formula throughout history. All the facts and stats and numbers and predictions were available beforehand but the 17m were convinced to call it 'project fear' or 'fake news'. They were conned. It was a horrible and shameful thing to have happened but I do hope you wonderful Europeans learn from what happened here and never make the same mistake. We're so much better off when we stick together.

"It’s no secret that Brexit isn’t going according to plan" Wait, there was a plan?!

@matthew8153

Жыл бұрын

That’s the joke. No one could agree on how to do it that the time limit passed and it forced a hard separation.

@thiloreichelt4199

Жыл бұрын

Well, since everything bad ever came from the EU, leaving the EU must magically improve the UK. Who needs a plan?

@ferencmori3114

Жыл бұрын

You're totally right. There was no plan... nobody expected Brexit back then. :)

@jasonkingshott2971

Жыл бұрын

For the UK democrats it has, out of that cesspit!

@KingBobXVI

Жыл бұрын

I feel like the plan for Brexit was "to own the libs" from people not realizing they don't live in the US. The other view is that it's a complete success for the richest power brokers in society, who now no longer have to worry about disclosing their wealth to the EU by turning the UK into their own little tax haven.

“It’s no secret that Brexit isn’t going to plan.” My dude there was no plan.

The British thinking that they are not living in the 1800s challenge: impossible

@gnrseanra9070

2 ай бұрын

You genius how many people really think that? 🤡

As an East European I think Brexit is good for us, many people who worked in the UK came back and now they work for our economy

@gnrseanra9070

9 ай бұрын

Eurozone in recession.

@asdfffffffffffffff

9 ай бұрын

As an eastern european I know lots of people working and living in the UK. I don't know of a single one that came back because of Brexit. The fun fact is that most of them support Brexit...

@pierrex3226

9 ай бұрын

​@@asdfffffffffffffffI live in Romania, and am not Romanian. "Repats" is absolutely a thing. Brexit must have played a role.

@user-fn9if9vi9w

9 ай бұрын

Now holland gets flooded with Eastern Europeans…..

@petermelang6695

9 ай бұрын

@@gnrseanra9070 So what? UK has way more room to grow since their economy crashed so hard due to covid. Doesn't mean they are better off.

The metaphor of a cat sitting in front of a door, wanting out but not leaving when you open the door, still holds. Now the cat left 30 seconds ago and wants back in.

@SkinUpMonkey

Жыл бұрын

That is so my cat. Got sick of it so got a cat flap lol.

@mabus4910

Жыл бұрын

@@SkinUpMonkey Are you suggesting the EU installs a Britflap?

@SkinUpMonkey

Жыл бұрын

@@mabus4910 lol no

@LeafHuntress

Жыл бұрын

Hey! No fair! Larry the Cat is the only sane one at number 10 or 11. 😽

@V01DIORE

Жыл бұрын

Well maybe it’s because 52% of the cat wanted to go outside in the winter and 48% of it wanted to stay in the warm in the first place.

If the UK wants to rejoin but expects to keep all the previous perks, they might face backlash from the EU. The EU could say, "If you don't want Schengen and the eurozone, rejoining is a no-go." It's a bit ironic since the UK previously enjoyed special treatment and deals, yet they still had the classic Anglo-Saxon ego for pursuing their own interests as if we were their oppressors. This kind of thinking, where the Anglo-Saxons want special deals, is frustrating for Europe and beyond.

@SeverityOne

9 ай бұрын

The conditions for joining the EU are pretty clear. Keeping your own currency isn't an option. Exceptions and exemptions generally aren't either, although some could be granted in exceptional circumstances. For example, Malta and Cyprus, as island states, have different considerations than for example Austria, so there's no "one size fits all" policy. However, getting exceptions because you think you are special are definitely off the charts.

@Incidental104

8 ай бұрын

@@SeverityOne well that has been UK’s approach all their life, and old members did get exceptions Denmark and Sweden have voted against the Euro and they will never adapt the Euro (at least without another referendum). While UK kept its own visa zone outside of the Schengen. But if they wanna rejoin as a new state… sorry not sorry

@alessioartioli3323

Ай бұрын

true that!

@Ju5tBU

Ай бұрын

Good they should rejoin the Schengen so all this criminals who are hiding in uk get to jail

@pedrorequio5515

Ай бұрын

@@Incidental104 Joining without Schengen is rather easy, given that there are 2 members that are permanently being blocked from Joining, that is not a vital issue for the EU, the reason for UK and Ireland is simple, they are Islands, the biggest benefit of Schengen is the Physical border and in the UK that only manifests itself in Northern Ireland, and no Schengen is required the border remains open.

Who would’ve thought that leaving one of the greatest international trade systems would be a bad idea

@TheHillingdon2

8 ай бұрын

Only 6% of British companies do any business at all with the rest of the EU, yet 100% of our firms must apply 100% of EU regulations.

@Name-ot3xw

8 ай бұрын

@@TheHillingdon2did you fall out of a time hole or something? You’re free! Enjoy it. Hey, let’s talk more about privatizing your national infrastructure. -signed your best buds America

@TheHillingdon2

8 ай бұрын

@@Name-ot3xw 🤔

@Name-ot3xw

8 ай бұрын

@@TheHillingdon2 we’re struggling to maintain rate of profits over here, got a bunch of billionaires with itchy checkbook signing fingers. Nothing bad can possibly happen by selling us your water and or power supply, we promise. Heard you might have a healthcare system in need of freedom too, while we’re signing things

@cervezafria4807

8 ай бұрын

​@@TheHillingdon2your information is wrong.

2016: Scotland "this is a bad idea" 2023: England "that was a bad idea"

@grahamleiper1538

Жыл бұрын

Re Tories Scotland 1950s -" these are a bunch of crooks" England 2023 - "these are a bunch of crooks".

@QuandaleDingle-ji2tj

Жыл бұрын

@@grahamleiper1538 im english and didnt like tories in the first place :p

@Eavolution_

Жыл бұрын

2016: NI "How is this going to work here" 2023: NI "How the actual hell is this going to work here"

@jamesalexander5623

Жыл бұрын

@@QuandaleDingle-ji2tj I'm an American and I despise them! .... I was stationed in England '77 to '86 .... Turbulent times! But The Greatest Music!

@mouf725

Жыл бұрын

@@Eavolution_ I mean that's the weirdest thing to me, right from day one NI was completely ignored...even in name! (Brexit rather than UKexit) I wonder if all the NI protocol nonsense might just trigger reunification at some point in the future...

Here's a thought: maybe the EU has become more dynamic *precisely* because the UK isn't there any longer to hold everything down?

@RealMash

Жыл бұрын

Lose the "maybe" and I agree ;-) Edit: I agree!

@MrMillefail

Жыл бұрын

In academia, where UK was the second most influential country besides France, it felt like UK was holding us back from cooperating with Warsaw and other eastern unis, and even Belgrade and other non-European universities (Maghreb especially). I think it was to keep some power, as Italy academics have a lot of influence over Belgrade, and Germany over eastern Europe and Turkey. And France over Maghreb. Now, we lost a lot of good research teams, I'm not gonna lie, it hurt, but we cooperate a lot more than we use to, and a lot better. Also, we all speak Globbish and understand each other better than when UK was there and we all tried to have a good accent. I left academia recently, so I don't know if the trend continues, but it seems the UK was holding us back.

@spacetime3

Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately, your assessment is pretty inaccurate, the previous UK Governments were very pro-Europe and helped it to become what is today. Brexit also had elements of what a lot of people in other countries felt but the head of the spear was the UK, with its immigration issues. A lot of changes in EU thinking came from Brexit and ofc the recent Ukraine-Russia war. Actually drove the EU to be what the UK wanted more spending on the military and less process.

@spacetime3

Жыл бұрын

@@MrMillefail I don't think this is strictly true, the UK was one the voices to let the Eastern European and Slavic countries into to the EU right..

@fatherofindia4088

Жыл бұрын

Corona virus spending borrowing, Ukraine war spending were not present when UK was part of the EU, so saying Brexit was a mistake is absolutely nonsense. Secondly, until UK can sign the trade deals with other countries of the world Brexit will look like a mistake. So Brexit haters need to think logically before opening their mouth.

Everytime i think its just the US in chaos, i see another country to stand up to the plate and realize "yeah people are weird everywhere" thats some comforting chaos.

It’s worrying that people voted for it in the first place thinking it was a good idea, but it’s genuinely baffling that any people STILL think it was a good idea after everything that has happened. What is wrong with those people.

@danhalo1

6 ай бұрын

They suffer from the mental disorder known as denialism. Which is actually the 1st stage of death. They then quickly go onto the 2nd stage of anger whenever anyone shows them the facts on why Brexit was never a good idea.

@randomcomputer7248

4 ай бұрын

The EU is going to collapse you fool, it was always inevitable

@iSRS28-ov3ps

Ай бұрын

They always thought they better than the rest…that’s it 😅let them believe that nonsense 🎉

Farage ‘applied for German passport’ on day after 2016 referendum - and did not deny having one

@davidbarrass5210

Жыл бұрын

His wife is German so why not ?

@RipMachine1

Жыл бұрын

@@davidbarrass5210 well maybe because it is hypocritical? He got a back up plan, most brits don’t have one

@cockneyse

Жыл бұрын

Along with many many others who campaigned for it or have even left... I hear even the recent Brexit Advantages Secretary along with offshoring his businesses to Ireland has now claimed an EU passport

@SaintGerbilUK

Жыл бұрын

@@RipMachine1 that's strange I remember many many remoaners saying if it didn't work out then they'd leave. Yet they are still here.

@jamesalexander5623

Жыл бұрын

Farage is a Paid Stooge of Putin! .... Anything to Disrupt the West!

Me in 2016: This is a terrible idea. Me in 2023: This was a terrible idea. Brexit was always going to be a disaster. A lot of people were just too stupid and/or misled to realise it.

@songsmith31a

10 ай бұрын

And how old are you?

@ozzie2612

10 ай бұрын

@@songsmith31a 254

@sogerc1

9 ай бұрын

People were manipulated.

@ozzie2612

9 ай бұрын

they were lied too@@sogerc1

@paksta

9 ай бұрын

@@sogerc1 it was preeeeetty obvious

Being in the process of migrating to the uk from eu it's honestly ridiculous how expensive/difficult it is compared to a few years ago. I've lost 1800 pounds because my visa got declined because I can't apply from inside the uk on a "visitor" visa (but you won't find that on any government website). Now I have to wait 14 weeks and spend an additional 2900 pounds to apply from outside the uk for something that used to be instant and free... It's an absolute joke.

@Kurio71

8 ай бұрын

Most countries are like that, outside applications

@smoothjazz2143

8 ай бұрын

​@@Kurio71yes the netherlands has the same policy

@bslangable

6 ай бұрын

You just get the treatment every other country outside the EU gets, which is totally fair. The reason Britain didn't see it coming is that they were too busy with getting on their high horses. The empire, the crown and all that other ridiculous stuff no one in the real world cares about.

@StopWhining491

5 ай бұрын

Why are you still planning to go?

@katapliktikos

5 ай бұрын

@@StopWhining491 Isn't it obvous?

The biggest problem, is people kept voting to leave over and over. After the referendum came the EU election, and the brexit party got the highest votes, then came the 2019 election and obviously borris wanted brexit. There were 3 big chances to remain and the public kept voting to leave, and I would not be surprised if there's a 4th chance in the future, and people still vote to leave. Some people just never want to change their minds, because they are stuck with their own opinions.

@Sam-vi2ho

5 ай бұрын

Racism/hate is one helluva drug.

@bunnystrasse

2 ай бұрын

@@Sam-vi2howhy should British people permit more foreigners to come in?

@jason38800

5 күн бұрын

the people of britain have spoken

"The EU ... is bureaucratic"... ALL governments are bureaucratic... As our government has proven since we left with every bit of replacement legislation and government structure being as bureaucratic and less accountable if anything... Just note the laws brought to parliament which are designed to give free rein to ministers to do a they please with deleting rules we live by without debate and causing chaos

@choobs8511

Жыл бұрын

At the end of the Day the EU is a Competent Bureaucracy, the UK has been led by a painfully incompetent Bureaucracy for the last 25 Years or so.

@zap648

Жыл бұрын

Nono, the argument was that it was excessively bureaucratic. That is a genuine argument, although a debatable one.

@Sobchak2

Жыл бұрын

@@zap648 all governments are seen as excessively bureaucratic.

@XMysticHerox

Жыл бұрын

@@zap648 It's a wrong one. The EU is actually highly efficient with no real evidence to the contrary. The only inefficient bit is the whole moving shenanigans but that is very overblown. Sure it's inefficient but it's also a tiny part of the budget.

@charliebryce3783

Жыл бұрын

Take back control really meant we want power without accountability

Brexit is like a reverse Jurassic Park: there was so much debate in the UK over whether or not it SHOULD leave the EU, they never stopped to consider whether or not it COULD.

@lucabalestra1638

Жыл бұрын

lol underrated reference! 🤣

@ulfosterberg1979

Жыл бұрын

And more crushially. Can it join?

@captainbuggernut9565

Жыл бұрын

Well it could and did.

@antdah

Жыл бұрын

You, sir, have just won the Internet this week.

@Mondfischli

Жыл бұрын

... either way it'll stay an Island 🤔

As an EU and Austrian Citizen I'm very sad that our Britsh Friends have left us. There should not be borders between friends!

@Oppenheimer.J.Robert

24 күн бұрын

Well at least got rid of those ungrateful brats, love from your italian neibourgs my friend!

@GerhardHofer-qy8sc

24 күн бұрын

@@Oppenheimer.J.Robert Yes, you are right, some of them were "raisins picking in the EU" and complaining about everything. I love Italy and I am happy, that there are no strict borders between us!

@Oppenheimer.J.Robert

24 күн бұрын

@@GerhardHofer-qy8sc Let's hope for further integration my friend

@jason38800

5 күн бұрын

your gdp is too low to be our friend. you were just leeching off our economy.

One must wonder who is to blame for the EU being so inefficient before Brexit. I would take the UK into consideration. 😮

British comedy at it's best.

@raz6630

Жыл бұрын

No one regrets Brexit. The globalist elite in charge of this nation have simply refused to follow through as they grow rich from flooding this nation with cheap labour at the expense of the people . The globalist elite running the EU are the enemy of the people and you supporting them makes you a shill. The economy is under stain for allot more than just brexit.

@shinankoku2

Жыл бұрын

Actually, it’s British comedy as it’s worst.

@shinankoku2

Жыл бұрын

@camu camu cite your source

@loveisall5520

Жыл бұрын

I assume you mean 'its' rather than "it's", which of course is a contraction of "it is"...

@garyt.8745

Жыл бұрын

@@shinankoku2 His source is the IMF - he's just being disingenuous by _only_ showing the Q1 2022 figures. Q2, Q3, Q4 and so far Q1 2023 have been a steady, pronounced, decline into recession. Worst performing advanced economy _in the world_ right now, even worse than sanction-hit Russia.

It's almost like every single problem economists predicted the UK would have by leaving the EU was correct. But hey, you got your "sovereignty" back, congrats.

@TragoudistrosMPH

Жыл бұрын

What's the British version of Murica?

@_MrMoney

Жыл бұрын

@@TragoudistrosMPH Bri'an

@gnrseanra9070

Жыл бұрын

But that's not true is it, you couldn't have said that in 2021, you sanctioned yourselves in EU!

@glennrobinson8385

Жыл бұрын

Try reading the truth and not JOB

@glennrobinson8385

Жыл бұрын

Good luck to the 27 american puppet countries borrowing 18billion euros to give it to Ukraine to buy yet more hses in the UK, US and Europe oh sorry i cannot say that😱 it is of course for yet more futile weapons for the joke Zelensky regime. Knkwing that they have already laundered billions on behalf of grandpa Biden ( FTX sound familiar). Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe so a perfect place for EU handouts 😱

I have a feeling those who think it was a bad idea explain it better than those that think leaving was the best option.

I think the problems with the EU were sitting in the UK all that time. When the Brits left, the EU flourished. Good luck convincing them to take you back

@jayc342009

5 ай бұрын

How is the EU flourishing?

When Sunak said the people of Northern Ireland are now in the enviable position of being in both the EU single market and the UK single market. He hit the nail on the head. That was the position the whole of the UK was in prior to Brexit!

@opencommentsbbcnewsnight1704

9 ай бұрын

The US and China are in a much better position because they aren't restricted to any one "single market" but can trade with the whole world.

@ralphmacchiato3761

9 ай бұрын

​@@opencommentsbbcnewsnight1704poor thing, you still don't get it.

@dominicgordon4774

9 ай бұрын

Do you understand how the US works? The US works because it’s 50 markets united in common by the federal government. The size and population of the US are actually quite similar to the EU as a whole. The US is so rich because it’s basically just the EU but even more centralized and with even less autonomy. The US was always going to be wealthier than the UK and EU as a whole for many reasons (immigration vs. Native populations, youthful population, single language), but the main reason for the size of the divide is that the US is so much wealthier because it stands united. Yeah, the US trades with the whole world, but unlike the UK it does it from a position of strength. The UK is just a tiny insignificant island that barely registers on the world stage. The US is an entire continent plus several islands. New England (a small region of the US) is the same size as old England.

@opencommentsbbcnewsnight1704

9 ай бұрын

@@dominicgordon4774 The US is superior to the EU because there is a common language and culture in the US. The US, right after the American Revolution, was much smaller than the British Empire it left behind (it only had 13 colonies aka states at first), but because of good leadership and English political institutions was able to grow into a world power. The UK is now in a similar position to the one the US faced right after the American Revolution, and it should act accordingly.

@dominicgordon4774

9 ай бұрын

@@opencommentsbbcnewsnight1704 it really isn’t a second revolution. The UK can’t just expand across a continent. Besides, the 13 colonies alone are much more massive than the UK. It’s hard to really put to scale the size of the US. The UK is weak and it’s only declining over time. That’s why people are regretting Brexit, because they can’t do shit. Besides, calling Americans a nation with a common culture or language isn’t really the case over American history. We have a common ideology (classical liberalism) but we all come from different nations. You’re odd here if you have one ethnicity. We have more Irish than Ireland and more Jews than Israel. The UK may have a recent history of immigration, but it is nothing like the US. Immigration is really what drives the US, because people growing up in a country are likely going to be a bit lazier than people that had to fight for scraps just to get a chance at a “New World”. Immigration is a selection game for risk-takers and tough people. It’s why Americans are by far the most productive people on the planet. The common language thing is even kinda recent. German was widely spoken up until the world wars. The first native born US President spoke Dutch as his first language. The US is really rich because of its diversity in both geography and culture. It’s hard not to dominate the globe when you have people from every single background imaginable. The UK has its empire, but it’s still got a English only population that dominates its culture and honestly weakens it economically. You can’t declare independence like the US. UK can declare independence like one of the developing countries that split off from it, but UK can’t be the US. Brexit cut it off from the admittedly weaker but best case scenario for the UK, joining the EU. Join the shittier US, otherwise known as the EU, UK, it’s really your only hope. Join a diverse entity with a large geographic base built around a classical liberal ideology.

People asking to rejoin continue to not understand how it works: being part of the EU doesn't depend only of their votes, the opinion of the other countries matter. It's not only in the hands of the Brits unlike the leave vote.

@hugolouessard3914

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. I really think the E.U would refuse the UK to rejoin. That would make the EU look weak. You can't come and go at will

@guerreiro943

Жыл бұрын

European citizen here. I would love for the UK to join in eventually, maybe in 20 or 30 years. But right now? Absolutely not. I want them back only once they become genuinely invested in the European projects and interested in cooperating with others.

@arthas640

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but the EU does stand to gain by the UK rejoining, especially in light of the Ukraine War. The UK has sent more aid to Ukraine then any EU member, their defense industry is the largest in Europe (with the Russian corruption and embezzlement the UK's defense spending may actually eclipse even Russia's real military funding), they have a pretty strong diplomatic network both inside and outside of the EU, they have more bases around the world than any EU member, they have a strong financial sector and the largest stock market in Europe, and one of the more important things is they have tons of desperately needed gas and oil (they've got more gas reserves than any EU member and have one of the worlds largest oil companies). The UK is also arguably the 2nd most important country to NATO and as we've seen time and time again the EU is useless as a peacekeeping organization and the UN is largely incapable of protecting people but NATO isnt. The fact that some EU members like Hungary and Germany are unwilling to take a strong stance against Russia only makes NATO even more important. Those are just the new things that have come up to incentivize the UK to be approved to rejoin if they applied. There's also the old reasons pre Ukraine War like a united Europe, a larger market, more varied goods and services, free trade between the UK and mainland Europe, and better access to jobs and schools in the UK (the UK still has some of the worlds best universities). That all benefits the EU, especially in the face of Russian aggression, Chinese imperialism, and manipulation by both of those countries. Brexit definitely hurt both the UK and EU, and pissed off the EU members a ton but things have changed massively around the world since the 2016 Brexit vote. I'm not saying that the EU members would all forgive and forget Brexit at the drop of a hat, but they have many reasons to allow the UK to rejoin. Realpolitik is usually more important than opinions when it comes to things like this so I'd wager most would be willing to bury the hatchet provided the UK gives some assurance they arent going to change their minds and leave again or cause another headache like the constant changes to Brexit

@adam7802

Жыл бұрын

And why would the EU not want the UKs money? Not that its going to happen, rejoining after a couple of years would be like getting back with your ex after 6 months thinking everything can just return to how it was. Its naive thinking.

@rgrrigel9332

Жыл бұрын

@@guerreiro943 and with a more humble attitude, not such arrogance. And they need to learn the lesson that they aren't superior.

If only someone had told them that this would end badly.

@user-hu3ze4yw4q

6 ай бұрын

@msmissy6888 You haven’t been paying attention. Ha!

@shzarmai

5 ай бұрын

If only indeed/s....

@Stamatis_Misirlis

5 ай бұрын

I had a conversation in Facebook with some Brits, and I told them before Brexit "This is a big mistake" and "You are victims of populism". They respond: "Ribbish!" "You don't know what you say!" One respond: "We gonna pay less without euro-parliamentarians". They didn't realize they have national parliamentarians multi times more than any European country.

I'm getting a feeling that what made EU bureaucratic before Brexit, was the Britons toxic participation in the EU. If Britain was to apply, would be very interesting to see if we Europeans still considered British version of democracy and the rule of law would fulfil the Copenhagen Criteria of qualifying to join.

As a European it’s also interesting to observe the increase of efficiency of the EU since Brexit. From this point of view, à come back of the UK may not be a good idea 😉

@Lostouille

Жыл бұрын

Agree 💀 as a french i'd still welcome back Scotland tho

@davidlewis4399

Жыл бұрын

Good we dont want to come back just look at the latest EU corruption scandals and how Germany is acting EU get stuffed.

@Lostouille

Жыл бұрын

@@davidlewis4399 the lastest corruption as you said is a good thing that it comes out , and is PUNISHED :) . Corruption is everywhere , what's matter is that consequences are put behind that behavior.

@computasaysnoo1

Жыл бұрын

Agreed - the EU will not want them back. They have figured out an algorithm that works without the UK, so why shake the boat? Britain made its bed and now we can all watch it fluff the pillows and lay down in it.

@boitmecklyn4995

Жыл бұрын

EU: "You wanna leave? Fine, your problem"

One of the hardest things in life is to admit you were wrong about a thing you were passionate about.

@bigduphusaj162

Жыл бұрын

Ehh? This is nothing but left wing tripe🤣 nobody cares about brexit now and these polls are washed out with wokist leftist and DO NOT reflect the public vote. The EU is dead it's morphing into the WEF as we speak😂

@martthesling

Жыл бұрын

I agree. people who are against brexit should admit they are wrong.

@kwlkid85

Жыл бұрын

​@@martthesling😂

@Espiritu_de_Obiwon

Жыл бұрын

Especially when you're a stubborn old hag......word to majority brexiteers.

@purplecrowbar1332

Жыл бұрын

@@marttheslingNPC

UK leaves the EU. The EU transforms from a slow unresponsive overly bureaucratic mess to a dynamic organization capable of making important decisions. While correlation is not always causation, you do have to wonder…

@pedrorequio5515

Ай бұрын

Given that 97% of EU law was approved by the UK when it was a member, you have to Wonder why other policy wasn't.

I moved from an eu country to the UK in 2017. It was very difficult with all their special rules. Moved out right before brexit took effect and it was easy. If they join again (one day I hope) they won't be allowed to have all the annoying rules and the UK might finally be freed from its own rules in many ways

UK as a member of the EU: "the EU is a bureaucratic nightmare, unable to sort anything out in a timely manner. EU after UK left: EU is more agile and able to respond to various crisis in a somewhat timely manner. UK outside of EU: is a bureaucratic nightmare unable to sort anything out in a timely manner. I think we found why the EU always felt impotent, and the infection voluntarily extracted itself to make the body healthy again.

@RealMash

Жыл бұрын

"Self imposed Morgenthau plan?"

@choobs8511

Жыл бұрын

Im glad they cut us off, now if the UK can wake up and stop putting power in the hands of fraudsters maybe we can fix the nation(s) after the huge mess the tories have been cooking for the last 13 Years or so.

@glynnwright1699

Жыл бұрын

You are having a laugh, right? If it wasn't for the UK's intervention with NLAWs, while the EU sat on their hands, Putin would have been in Kyiv within a week. And that is not my opinion, it is that of the US military.

@vishrutbansal2535

Жыл бұрын

As an Indian, a country that inherited most of its current bureaucratic structure from our former colonists, the state of things does not surprise me at all. There is a case to be made for similar inefficiencies within the Indian administration as well. Even in 2016, it was obvious to me that the UK's misgivings with the EU are a matter of their own actions, perspective and preferences and not the EU member states. Rejoining the EU, even if they did welcome the UK with open arms, will do nothing to solve their political woes and their self proclaimed frustrations with government, administration and politics.

@not_even_known_yet3167

Жыл бұрын

@@vishrutbansal2535 Didn't know that India inherited much of the Bureaucracy from Britain. But it does make sense that the British would leave one last "reminder" of themselves whit you. To me it seems that Britain needs to abolish the Monarchy (to leave all the mess in the past), reform into an Republic, write a new Constitution and introduce proportional Elections.

Most Conservative Brexiteers never really believed in Brexit, but UKIP had to be stopped from splitting the vote and letting Labour in. Amber Rudd is right, after a few drinks, Tory Brexiteers will admit it has been a disaster, and after a few more they will admit they knew it would be from the start. However, it has kept Labour out of office and served it's purpose, to the great detriment to the economy.

@thetruth4116

Жыл бұрын

Hold up: So a nation and its economy was put at risk just to keep another political party out of power? That's nuts!

@indogoUI

Жыл бұрын

@@thetruth4116 Not only this but to stop new legislation around transparency in the financial sector.

@j377yb33n

Жыл бұрын

@@indogoUI and possibly to stop tribunals over British troops actions in Northern Ireland going to the EU courts.

@grantmcinnes1176

Жыл бұрын

Not just Brexit splitting the vote, but stopping the ERG and sympathizers schism-ing the Tory party even further. Which amounts to the same thing, really. The Worst Prime Minister In History rolled the dice on a referendum he thought was an easy win to solve some annoying short term political issues. Despite HAVING ALMOST LOST ANOTHER ONE IN SCOTLAND TWO YEARS EARLIER!!

@4200Felix

Жыл бұрын

@@thetruth4116 It's a weird way of looking at it. It was put at risk by the Conservatives to keep the Conservatives in power. UK politics is largely a 2 party system, with Labour and Conservatives being the two major parties, if Conservatives had lost power, Labour would have gained it.

The delicious irony of Brexiteers annoyed about Brexit not working out the way they were told is, that they were lied to, they knew it and they liked it. 😊😊😊

It feels like the politicians in Britain are a little disconnected from the people. This, of course, will sort itself out in due time of course and is nothing to worry about. The democracy will see to that

I watch Dutch news channels and although the Dutch MEPs do miss the UK representatives in some cases (like financial regulation where we think similarly) there’s a degree of relief that the UK had gone. Time isn’t being wasted on petty arguments, and appeasing the UK, and the EU parliament and committees function better now. There was a worry at the start that once the UK left things would be harder but counties are working together better without the divisions either caused or exacerbated by the UK delegation. We can’t assume that the EU would welcome us back even if we wanted to rejoin, and if we did I don’t believe we would have as much power nor our rebates. Rejoining isn’t a current option so we should be dealing with the fall out of brexit first before wasting energy on that campaign

@francoisleyrat8659

Жыл бұрын

All the more surprising as the Dutch are probably the continentals closest culturally to the British. The Netherlands benefited a lot from Brexit, with British businesses relocating there so as to gain a foothold in the SM.

@naturesguard8745

Жыл бұрын

personally i think that even if the reapplied EU wouldn't want them because unlike before Brexit the UK was adding a good amount of both political and financial power now both of those have fallen plus i think the EU would want to make an example of the UK if they reapplied by most likely saying that any laws that the UK was exempt from now apply.

@Robert-hz9bj

Жыл бұрын

The EU would be insane to accept Britain back. If a nation could just leave the EU and return to it without issue, then what is to stop literally any EU country from using the threat of leaving as leverage to force the EU parliament to give them concessions during legislative negotiation?

@BeBe-vh4ry

Жыл бұрын

@@francoisleyrat8659 What? We are by far closest to Germany. English people originate from modern northern Germany/Denmark 🤡

@peterjones8335

Жыл бұрын

Instead, Poland and the Baltics are arguing with Germany over sending tanks to Ukraine and arguing with France about boycotting the Olympics. Meanwhile, UK sends tanks to Ukraine and takes a stance on the Olympics. No dithering, the UK just gets on and does things. That’s why we left

About the UK re-joining the EU: The UK was not a loyal partner and it will be difficult for the EU to trust them again. I wouldn't have any reservations about Scotland though, since they were forced out against their will. The Scots will be more than welcome to join the EU.

@har3036

Жыл бұрын

Rejoining sounds like showing up in Brussels, expecting everybody to let bygones be bygones. A reformed UK might try to join, but pigs will take to the air before the English will be welcome on the Continent.

@zenoblues7787

Жыл бұрын

The problem with that is that Scotland is part of the U.K. so they can't make a separate deal.

@c.w.8200

Жыл бұрын

Yes, Scotland and Northern Ireland need to leave this mess behind asap, imagine the nightmare of a hard international border between Ireland and Northern Ireland, nobody wanted that. Britain did nothing but drag the union down with their arrogance and superiority complex against the mainland, they shouldn't be allowed to rejoin, I'm sure most of us on the mainland are glad to be rid of them.

@svetoslavstanchev9977

Жыл бұрын

I think everyone learns from their mistakes, that's why we should be together like before BREXIT.

@dombrandon3018

Жыл бұрын

@@c.w.8200 What an arrogant comment, You're a hypocrite.

Im looking to work in the UK for a while after my First Law degree in Germany (already arranged most things with the second biggest german lawfirm). But getting a work Visa for the UK is the worst 🤦🏽‍♂️

Thousands of EU-trading UK companies have moved most of their business to a new Irish Dutch or Spanish subsidiary. Others didn't and lost their EU customers, who are now served by other suppliers from EU or even China. These things happened on a dime. I used to buy from British companies all the time, but now it's more difficult. How long till this sort of damage is undone if you were to rejoin? Maybe 20 years, maybe what's lost isn't ever coming back. Even if exit was a mistake, rejoin may no longer make sense, since you're rejoining under unfavourable conditions.

Bregret?!? Are we now going to have Bregretiteers? This is confusing.

@dahjeekwenglee5909

Жыл бұрын

Bregretibrexiteers

@dahjeekwenglee5909

Жыл бұрын

Personally im a Bre-entryneer

@andrewfrancis3591

Жыл бұрын

Brexmoaners more like. They won but it's still somebody else's problem.

@rhysholdaway

Жыл бұрын

... y'all confusing me even more! Now I am completely brexfuddled!!!!

@Jermbot15

Жыл бұрын

To be fair, based on the opinion polls only about 6% of the country are true Bregreteers with another 18% probably being the people who either pretended they didn't vote at all, or lie about voting stay.

To go to plan they would have needed a plan in the first place.

@emilymcplugger

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. Like that Pratt on newsnight saying it will improve after a generation. How? By magic? If there’s no plan for success then failure is the most likely option.

@choobs8511

Жыл бұрын

@@emilymcplugger Also, the fact that the plan needed a whole generation before things are as good as or better than living in the EU (HIGHLY DOUBTFUL) it wasn't a very good plan. (Indeed, there wasn't one)

@juice6521

Жыл бұрын

How do you plan for shooting yourself in the foot?

@zanizone3617

Жыл бұрын

Round and round, we all go back on that day, after the referendum, when a flabbergasted journalist relayed the answer he got from a prominent Brexiteer to the obvious "you won, what now?" question: "I don't know, the government should have a plan. It's their job, not mine. Ask them!"

@killgriffinnow

Жыл бұрын

“If people had just had some GODDAMN FAITH, we would have been harvesting Mangoes in Tahiti by now!”

It's all about perspective. The party ruling should have the banks to see it through and make it an opportunity to incentives the current population to make in Britain and it's interests that yield to indigenous manufacturing

England and eastern wales regrets it. No one else wanted it 💀

If we did ask to join EU, there will be a higher bar to enter now. The EU were frustrated by UK being that awkward exception all the time. Now they would certainly expect us to fully integrate (e.g. adopt the Euro, fewer exceptions on freedom of movement etc...).

@RealMash

Жыл бұрын

No, we expect you to stay out, Mr. Bond.

@computerfan1079

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely

@BewareOfTheKraut

Жыл бұрын

If you ask the EU to join, there will be laughter.

@jjbarajas5341

Жыл бұрын

@@BewareOfTheKraut As an American I would definitely be laughing at such an event.

@Chichichua

Жыл бұрын

@@BewareOfTheKraut I know and I’m so sad 😢…

UK sowing: fuck yeah!!! UK reaping: nooo noooo shut up!!! nooo

@Rihardololz

Жыл бұрын

EU sowing: Nothing EU reaping: Nothing

@kanedNunable

Жыл бұрын

@@Rihardololz all EU countries doing better than us. wonder why?

@V01DIORE

Жыл бұрын

52% to 48%… “we” really sowed that did we?

@Rihardololz

Жыл бұрын

@@kanedNunable Greece better? you smoking spice again?

@Rihardololz

Жыл бұрын

@@kanedNunable must be booster shot.

007 is now 07 due to budget cuts and the inability to move around Europe as before.

Wow what a coincidence exactly what everyone external to GB thought at the time. It was stupid and rushed decision that the public would come to regret. Surprise(!)

I loved the videos immediately after Brexit showing businesses who voted for Brexit suddenly realised they completely pwned themselves cause they didn't realise how their entire business model depended on what being in the EU provided

@gnrseanra9070

9 ай бұрын

How much business did we do with the EU last year?

@gnrseanra9070

9 ай бұрын

@@-Duo What a nice person you are! How is Joe and Hunter? Inflation is still higher under Biden (Bidenomics) great eh, world is laughing at America at the moment, those red hat voters have been fully vindicated. I think it's hilarious you blaming Trump still when Biden has been in nearly three years, just like you keep blaming the Russians for your own corrupt politicians.

@SeverityOne

9 ай бұрын

@@-Duo The thing with Trump's tariffs was that they were based on the assumption that it would increase domestic demand, without bothering to check this with people who actually understand economy, such as economists. However, the assumption was also that Biden would do away with the tariffs, and he didn't - at least, not the Chinese ones. If anything, he increased them. And that is not for economic, but for geopolitical reasons. The thing is that Europe and North America largely operate on the same principles, and our economies are intertwined enough that hurting each other's economies is just a bad idea. Plus, Europe is unlikely to threaten North America, and vice verse. (When I say "Europe", this obviously does not include Moscow.)

@gnrseanra9070

8 ай бұрын

@@SeverityOne You mean like blowing an 'allies' critical infrastructure and then selling them LNG at a higher price?

@Glasstable2011

8 ай бұрын

@@gnrseanra9070I would imagine less, but I don’t actually know the answer. What is it?

Maybe the question isn’t if Britain wants to rejoin the EU, but if the EU wants Britain back

@jameshayes2022

9 ай бұрын

I fucking hope we don't come back. Our independence has always brought us success, the issue isn't brexit, its that our leaders didn't believe in it, and instead preferred the German super state.

@ralphmacchiato3761

9 ай бұрын

​@@jameshayes2022hope the Kool-Aid is your flavour.

@jameshayes2022

9 ай бұрын

@ralphmacchiato3761 no you're right, Jeremy hunt and rishi Sunak love brexit.

@goncalobalanca4299

9 ай бұрын

@@jameshayes2022 I quite like the EU! A school in my town waas 85% financed by it, as was every other project in my town.

@gdmoore

9 ай бұрын

@@jameshayes2022this is why we don't want you......

Thank you so much for your video and also thank you for the really usefull sponsor, it seems really interesting!!!! (first time I heard about a solution against filter bubbles)

When an article say everyone, you know you can’t trust it.

@Yawnyaman

8 ай бұрын

Indeed. I was only a marginal Brexiteer at best, but in retrospect, it was certainly the right and necessary thing to do.

@group555_

6 ай бұрын

*I don't like the article so I'm gonna say it's bad based on weird pedantics with correct language use*

Brexit is a wonderful soothing tonic! It raises my morale, bolsters my confidence in my own grasp of current affairs, not to mention my understanding of economics, and it confirms my sanity - simply because it is going exactly as predicted.

@jasonkingshott2971

Жыл бұрын

You forgot to mention, sovereignty, independence from a corrupt, anti democratic, unaccountable, protectionist, mafioso organisation run by a bunch of childish, vindictive, self serving, gravy train riding, free loading parasites. Leaving was about self governance, empowering the UK to make its own decisions. It does not set in stone what those decisions must be, it's back in the hands of the UK public and not in the hands of or shackled to Brussels.

@recoil53

Жыл бұрын

The sales pitch was so laughably wrong and 52% voted for it. Why would the EU want that headache back?

@liofalba

Жыл бұрын

Tbh, blaming Brexit for the current situation does seem to be a bit of magical thinking. I lived in London 2012-2016, situation clearly was not optimal. UK decided to turn itself into a purely financial services economy, build 0 houses, gut public services and seemed chronically incapable of any infrastructure. Brexit shaved of at most 0.5% of GDP/year, the UK could has a young growing population and a strong skills base, it could be doing much better, but it decided to just keep on the same shitty things.

@deanfromhungary

Жыл бұрын

@@liofalba The UK fucked up as it is. Housing is way to expensive throughout the whole country, non existing social care system, non existing health care and non existing workers right. I've moved to Germany 4 years ago and its about 1000x better here. Sick pay is mandatory (your full wage, not 50 pounds a week), 0 hour contracts are illegal, health care is in a whole another league and if you lose your job, you'll get 60-80% of your wage and get access to the free education system. This means that you can become a certified electrician, machine builder or something useful, not like in the UK where they provide dental assistant, secretary and other nonsense courses. I personally never had to use any of these options, but it's there if anything bad happens.

@liofalba

Жыл бұрын

@@deanfromhungary for sure, the problem with Brexit/EU obsessives is that the UK’s problems are of it’s own making and unlikely to be fixed by either major party which are filled to be brim with idiots and even worse, mediocrities.

Brexit to me is the “This is fine” meme. The UK economy seems to be worse off post brexit yet many in government are still nose diving into that dumpster fire for some reason.

@stevejacques9359

Жыл бұрын

With the FTSE at it's highest ever I'm sure you're right. Not.

@tamaliaalisjahbana6849

Жыл бұрын

@@stevejacques9359 That does not prove Brexit is fine. The IMF and Bank of England do not agree with you - but go ahead ignore the experts again.

@stigkrakpants3052

Жыл бұрын

@@tamaliaalisjahbana6849 oh the experts such as Norman Lamont or Paxman, Tamalia where are YOU from, where are you REALLY from...? Go live in Germany

@inquiringminds6633

Жыл бұрын

And that nothing to do with 2 years of lockdown. What a Moronic comment ffs

@kevinconrad6156

Жыл бұрын

IMHO if Labor had opposed Brexit from the start they would be in power now and not trashing now is just digging a hole for themselves.

Just gonna say i did not know of any of these polls but i think if more others were aware of those polls the % would be what i expect it more to be.

I also find it really interesting how the question is do you regret Brexit not the way Brexit is handled which would be a far more intellectually honest question considering the average citizen wanted Brexit to happen because the UK hasn't left the EU yet they're still in it it's been almost 10 years and they're still in this weird limbo because the political class benefit a huge amount by being a part of the EU so for their own self interest they really really don't want to leave it at the cost of everyone else there's just so much wrong with this poll between the fact it didn't even pull 1% of the population it only pulled 20 people per constituency and it asked the question as if it were all or nothing and not like it's a complex issue where people have nuanced opinions this just seems like propaganda at best

Brexxit really was a reality check for nationalists who didn't realize how much other countries were co operating with them to help them flourish

@83craigshag

9 ай бұрын

Then why is the EU struggling

@rezarfar

9 ай бұрын

​@@83craigshagWe are struggling more, EU and the rest of the world are still recovering from the Pandemic and the war in Russia isn't helping. We are struggling more than the EU, before we were one of the strongest economies in the EU in terms of recovering. Now we are one of the weakest. Brexit was a big mistake. We're poorer because of it.

@MikoDnst

9 ай бұрын

​@@rezarfaryou are struggling because of corrupt liars in the power, who are interested in making themselves rich and not in fulfilling promises they gave to the people who elected them. UK's leadership for years wasn't conservatives, but liars and thieves larping as conservatives

@csocseszrocsesz

9 ай бұрын

@@83craigshag And the brits are not struggling or what? :D

@mrosskne

8 ай бұрын

brexit is good

This is what happens when ordinary people are made to think they're better than the experts. 80 percent economists predicted brexit would be a disaster. What I would also say is, being informed is also very important and making informed decisions are important, don't make any decisions based on half truths

@dombrandon3018

Жыл бұрын

I think it was higher than that but your point is spot on

@bobbysox897

Жыл бұрын

But it hasn't been, though much money is being spent trying to convince everyone that it is so

@dombrandon3018

Жыл бұрын

@@bobbysox897 Ever consider you’re exactly who he’s talking about: one of those who are convinced they know better than the stats, reports, realities and long-term forecasts?

@RobertHosein

Жыл бұрын

If Britain doesn't change its trajectory, it is at risk of becoming a third world country. There are absolutely no benefits to Brexit.

@wenterinfaer1656

Жыл бұрын

Brexit proves that democracy is not for plebs and the like.

This is funny, because now this begs the question: what is to be done democratically when the demos realizes that their decision was a mistake? And politically, is it reasonable to let decisions that might sway in time be decided by the people of the demos (i.e. potentially irrational vis a vis rational decisions)

Nothing is easier than fooling someone. Nothing is harder than convincing someone they were fooled.

I think Europe also became way more united and responsive because the UK as a anti-eu obstacle went away. If the UK wants to rejoin, we must make sure they don't end up blocking again. Them having to join the Euro to show they are serious about the EU is a must.

@fabvz5436

9 ай бұрын

Cared to explain how the UK would be helping the EU by adapting to the euro? (Genuine question, just want to learn)

@janeisklar3923

9 ай бұрын

@fabvz5436 For me, that's a Purley symbolic act of saying, "This time, we really mean it with the EU and want to give up a chunk of our sovereignty and be a progressive and leading force within the EU" Don't forget to join the euro a country needs to fulfill certain criteria, the UK would obviously fulfill all criterias, the only reason they didn't join the euro bsck then was a special deal because the UK wanted to keep more sovereignty. Either commit or stay out.

@gnrseanra9070

9 ай бұрын

Daft, who would want to rejoin?

@LargeSauce

9 ай бұрын

The uk would never join the Euro

@TheSteve_1992

9 ай бұрын

Why even re-open this can of worms. Just tell the Brits to eff off if they come crawling back

Whilst I am a remainer. I cant help but admit that Brexit has been a golden goose for me. Working in financial crisis management has been rather lucrative

@karanaima

5 ай бұрын

There's always winners. Some people made hundreds of millions in 2008

@christchurchcoventrytechie4413

5 ай бұрын

You and Lord Snooty, then.

@zhi2h626

5 ай бұрын

Can't blame you

@ashm4938

5 ай бұрын

Make the most of something, even if it is an utter cavalcade of cock ups@@karanaima

@ashm4938

5 ай бұрын

Lord Archibald Snooty the 3rd to you.@@christchurchcoventrytechie4413

As a long term Lib Dem, I see Starmer as a disappointment who does not seem to understand how Brexit has hurt the Brit public. But redoing, The UK may find it difficult.

So..... When the birthplace of obstructive bureaucracy left the E.U the level of obstructive bureaucracy dropped and it started to work more efficiently ..... Amazing.

"We told you so!" - Entirety of EU and most of the world. We warned Brits for years that Brexit is a terrible, dumb idea. Loudly. And repeatedly. We were ignored or accused of fearmongering. Well, at least it should be a good lesson for others.

@orangeedo

Жыл бұрын

You legitimately think a good brexit attempt has been made, by a party of remainers and globalists? Pull the other one lol

@alanwrobel8455

Жыл бұрын

Indeed - remember a little noise about 'Frexit' (France) and 'Dexit' (Denmark) and others.

@XSilver_WaterX

11 ай бұрын

Nationalism and Old!Money is so ingrained in the British consciousness that the ONLY thing to help end it is to turn the entire Island into chemical-ash or let France finally conquer their old enemy who was delving into some serious forbidden taboos!

@pjs232

11 ай бұрын

To be fair the vote to leave was pretty close, like 52%/48% so at least 48% of the UK are also saying "we told you so" and a hell of a lot of people who did vote for brexit now regret it. I think the majority of the UK now knows it was a bad idea.

@yorkiegilly4355

11 ай бұрын

@@pjs232 10 or 20 was pretty close ,but it was a lot more than that and do we Brexiteers get "Brownie" points for getting our idle asses out of bed that day in 2016 and actually voting unlike some that didn"t vote and have moaned ,cried , and whinged about it since ?. Have a nice Brexit .

EU: "You couldnt live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me".

@RealMash

Жыл бұрын

But I won't take you back.

@SaintGerbilUK

Жыл бұрын

We'll never live under your boot again.

@putra4101

Жыл бұрын

@@SaintGerbilUK Good riddance.

@AWMJoeyjoejoe

Жыл бұрын

@@SaintGerbilUK We never were under a boot you complete tool.

@decipheritalian

Жыл бұрын

You forgot Muhahahahahaha

What plan?

Farmers are complaining they can't sell their products in EU where They can get better prices. They are also complaining the EU undercuts them by exporting Goods to UK. Are farmers thick.😅

If only someone would've warned them...

@SaintGerbilUK

Жыл бұрын

If only the remoaners would leave since its gone so badly like they promised.

@julianshepherd2038

Жыл бұрын

@@SaintGerbilUK yes, purge the 48%. Deport them to Rwanda, abolish the courts, lock up the lawyers, ban protest, ban strikes and gerrymander the vote. Only then will democracy be respected and not questioned by reality

@rogermartin8435

Жыл бұрын

If only the remoaners had allowed brexit to be fully implemented. Rather than fight every inch of the way so that the EUSSR keeps us in thrall 6 years after the democratic process mandated for th UK to leave the EU

@sammij134

Жыл бұрын

@@SaintGerbilUK 😂😂😂😂 "we fucked up the country I get it stop telling us we told you so after you told us so"

@orcho141

Жыл бұрын

@@SaintGerbilUK we'd love to, but you took away our freedom of movement, so you chained us to the boat you've sunk. Selfish, dumb c*nts

The UK had so many good webshops an they are all more annoying to buy from these days... I can't be the only one looking for alternatives in other parts of europe when buying stuff.

@NATIK001

Жыл бұрын

A lot of specialty goods were sold through the UK making them the best place for EU citizens to get them. Some of them have migrated to Dutch and German sites, but especially German sites can be an issue since they are almost always in German and not everyone in the EU know German.

@robertmifkovic6325

Жыл бұрын

now you have to pay import tax which makes UK products more expensive

@aliancemd

Жыл бұрын

We watch and read mostly English content, so that’s why we think that UK has good webshops but usually you can find a German alternative that is just as good or better but lacking the good marketing

@californiadreamin8423

Жыл бұрын

@DoubtingThomas I do. Frictionless trade was win win for ordinary people , and business , on both sides of the channel, before the drawbridge was raised. Everyone is worse of because we have lost choice.

@Azer398

Жыл бұрын

I recently wanted a pair of boots from an American brand that doesn’t ship from Europe, and so I had to find a European retailer. The cheapest and best option I could find was a Scottish website with a great range. Shipping costs to Ireland, just next door, were over 50 euros. I found a German shop and sent my 200 euro to them. How many times over is that being repeated for others? The British economy is surely suffering greatly because of this alone. Small business have had their potential customer base absolutely decimated.

0:57 that map looks a lot like that in the Asterix comics, one village of brave...

Expectations and illusive correlations are at play in what requires Britain, the British to manage and adjust economic thoughts and opportunities. I trust there is good fortune to come.

Interesting to be told that the EU ,after UK left it , has become more dynamic. Now, I wonder why that is?

@tenton459

Жыл бұрын

"Dynamic" all right. Flailing about.

@ikjjoli607

Жыл бұрын

@@tenton459 take the L British people

@xavmanisdabestest

Жыл бұрын

@@ikjjoli607 Most of us have Tenton just a lil slow

@crazydinosaur8945

Жыл бұрын

after Britain left, the amount of wrenches thrown in the machinery got smaller, wonder why

@OneBiteoftheCherry

Жыл бұрын

​@CrazyDinosaur I'm English and I'm starting to wonder if it was ever something we should've been in in the first place. I can imagine it works better now.

Britan in 2019: 🎶 We are never, ever, ever getting back together 🎶 Britain in 2023: 🎶 It's me. Hi. I'm the problem it's me. 🎶

@stevebull4578

Жыл бұрын

Trust me, we’re never getting back together again with the EU, you can dream on though.

@ahmedmahmoud542

Жыл бұрын

@@stevebull4578 who said we want you back lol

@stephenhowe4107

Жыл бұрын

It is not a problem. The logic is sound.

@bruhbruh2290

Жыл бұрын

no one regrets it. you are admired in europe, France wants to leave, Italy wants to leave, Greece wants to leave, corruption has been massive and you all still follow like sheep?

@andrewdeans3686

Жыл бұрын

@@ahmedmahmoud542 It's Europe that is being discussed here.

I don't want to beat a dead horse but one of the reason EU is moving so fast at the moment is the lack of pushback from UK thanks to brexit. The brits have had a long habit of making everything about themselves and slowing down everything.

"we asked people who voted remain if they regretted Brexit and they all said yes"

There is one major thing that went right with Brexit. Movements to leave the EU that existed in Italy, the Netherlands, Denmark, and other EU countries all fizzled after observing the British experience. The EU is now much stronger.

@vignotum132

5 ай бұрын

Even here in Sweden no one wants to leave nowadays

@karanaima

5 ай бұрын

It used to be a thing in France too and I think you're right it died

@magnetiktrax

5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately we can't say that about The Netherlands as the party that got the most votes in the last election is a party that wants to leave the EU.

@user-mp8rq9in7l

4 ай бұрын

As a Dutch person, the people that are anti-EU are still anti and I don't think the amount has decreased or increased

@vignotum132

4 ай бұрын

@@user-mp8rq9in7l it decreased in Sweden at least

3.10 Love the stock-film actor who was so out of it he answered the question 'Who was Winston Churchill?' with 'The Japanese Prime Minister.'

They did the exact same thing with the shutting of Grangemouth in Scotland.

A friend of a friend who voted for, and who was very pro-Brexit is now back in Australia with his wife, their son, and his Polish fiance, with no plans to return. Ha ha. I knew little about the details, but my cousin who was a tax inspector foresaw the problems so I trusted her view and now watch the inevitable disaster unfold.

@fbafoundationalbuck-broken6011

Жыл бұрын

SOUNDS LIKE THE WHITE VERSION OF NAKMEEZY.

@JoshSweetvale

Жыл бұрын

This isn't a disaster. A disaster is one failure point causing great chaos. This is a _clusterfuck._ Many small interconnected problems all cooking off at once. Northern Ireland. The Tory cult. Britain's half-commital to the EU. The hubris of English nationalism. Each not quite a disaster, but all together?

@terryhoath1983

Жыл бұрын

SO ! ....... He has a wife and child in Australia. Whilst they were tucked up in Australia, 10,000 miles away, the tom cat picked up a nice piece of Polish squeeze and has taken it back to Australia with him ? What did the wife say about that ? Does he have them in the same bed, or have them on different nights ..... or .... has the wife started divorce proceedings ? It is hardly surprising that your cousin foresaw the inevitable disaster ...... CHRIST !!!!

@tomasrocha6139

Жыл бұрын

@@terryhoath1983 Maybe it's his son's Polish fiancee?

@terryhoath1983

Жыл бұрын

@@tomasrocha6139 I was being mischievious ...... but maybe .......... just maybe ......... it is as I say. There is no accounting for remoaners or even the turncoats who only voted for Brexit thinking that they would get something financial out of it. It is in truth not for glory, nor riches, nor honours that we are fighting, but for freedom - for that alone, which no honest man gives up but with life itself. I know that, in the face of Russian aggression, most Poles feel the same. I know that many Poles hate the Brussels Mafia but tolerate it for the German, French, Dutch and Luxembourg money that comes Poland's way. Having given up on trying to dominate Europe by military means, the Germans have nearly succeeded by economic means. BEWARE !!! Britain has had 12 Challenger II tanks (the best tanks in the World) manned by British soldiers in the Baltic States for several years now, and now they are on their way to Ukraine with more to follow. Poland has now released 4 of their Leopards with more to follow. Where are the German Leopards ? If Britain was still in the German dominated EU, the Germans would have tried to stop us sending our Challenger II tanks. The Germans don't approve of much of the other stuff that we have sent. I note that Christina's friend did NOT leave Britain to go to France, or Spain, or Italy, or Germany, or any other EU country but to AUSTRALIA. Even with its' links to Britain, the Australians have NEVER tolerated any diktats from the EU.

Who could have predicted a terrible idea would be a terrible idea?

@peterclarke7240

Жыл бұрын

Remainers?

@English_Dawn

Жыл бұрын

Being an unwritten constitution the biggest constitutional change since 1660 has occurred. Power rests with the people NOT the Government nor Parliament. Politicians were forced to enact legislation the majority of whom would rather avoid. This has NEVER occurred before in British history.. There will be many benefits of Brexit, which may not be obvious immediately, no realistic person ever thought they would be but the constitutional change alone was worth Brexit. 👉 The MSM have tried to portray things not going well, many things un-related to Brexit. They are aggrieved their kids can't go on "Erasmus Plus" courses or roaming-charges, passport queues. What a shame! 👉Areas of this country outside the M25 have suffered economic decline and low GDP, not for 3 years but for over a century, as far back as 1870. So does a gain or loss of 5% of GDP matter to them? Not really because they are innured to low or no growth of GDP. Life exists outside the M25. Levelling-up. To whom? Any benefits will take probably over a century and cost billions, probably trillions, not millions. They know that. The UK is the most economically unequal country in Europe. 👉 The EU was set up by Jean Monnet as an elite instutuon. Run by elites for elites. 👉The EU Council and EU Commission are the only two bodies with legislative initiative. Neither of which are directly publically elected. 👉 Only the EU Parliament is subject to a public vote and publically accountable, and that only weakly with one M.E.P. to approximately 770, 000 voters. It has NO power of legislative initiative. 👉How many members of the public actually votes for the EU President? None. 👉It is fundamentally undemocratic and was planned to be, keeping the public at arms-length. 👉British voters do not accept that un-elected judges have more power than elected politicians. Not many voters do. 👉The EU was a post-war institution, of It's time. 👉The bigger it gets the more remote the voter and more diluted the power of each individual national state. 👉The Eurozone is a "basket-case". It is effectively the "Deutschemarkzone". Italy only got in by claiming it's debt position was better than it actually was. The then Greek government seeing that, did likewise. Hence trying to run before they can walk means high youth unemployment. 👉Britian's peak was 1870 for output. 👉Britain's peak financially, inflation-adjusted, was around 1912. 👉Cotton, upon which a lot of the North depended, last peaked in 1922. 👉Coal mining last peaked in 1910. Many British regions are not self-financing. Only London and the South East excluding London, are. Successive British governments have not been able to stem the decline. Nor Membership of the EU. It is arguable membership of the EU exacerbated the decline. How many times had Jean-Claude Juncker visited The Rhondda, Hull or Redcar? 👉Expansion eastwards of the EU would have meant less money available for poor Regions of Britain. 👉The Blob and MSM, to excuse their own ignorance, say Brexit was caused by "uneducated Northerners". 👉In 1980 1 in 10 people went to university not 5 out of 10 as it stands. Many have life experience. Do some studying for media studies etc come close? 👉If you draw a line from The Wash to the River Severn the area below that, the South, was 60% of the "Leave" vote. Only London, Oxford and Cheltenham really voted "Remain". Basically the rest of the South voted "Leave". 👉The biggest social group voting to "Leave", 59%, were the A's,B's & C1's. The working-class vote was 27%. 👉That "Scotland was dragged out of the EU against It's own will". In the 2014 Scottish Referendum independance for Scotland meant leaving the EU, without blinking an eye. Scotland, Northern Ireland and London were 3 out of 4 sectors with lowest turnout in the EU Referendum. Conclusion. Brexit will have many benefits, most of them constitutionally and be rather hidden. There will be other benefits including financially. For only around a third of "Leave" voters was finance the key driver. For most countries Sovereignty out-weighs financial matters. 👉The ability to vote for your own legislature to make your own laws is paramount to at least 2/3rds of the people. Hence a main reason for Brexit.

@greyghost2492

Жыл бұрын

Who could've predicted that a terribly infectious coronavirus would cause a global pandemic and a year long lockdown that would have major lasting economic consequences?

@Peter-uy3ti

Жыл бұрын

It wasn't an Idea. It was a democratic vote. It's called democracy.

@glennrobinson8385

Жыл бұрын

Depends on ur prospective 17.5million chose what they though would be better in the longer term but Boris the clown never did what he promised in the manifesto. With that in mind we need legislation to hold future governments elected on a certain platcorm to be held accountable or they have to concede to another national vote

All those bad decisions, for what? So they can be like “Me too!, we finally escaped the treachery and won our freedom from other countries! WOOHOO”. It’s weird how they felt left out so they decided to LEAVE, so they can be like everyone else, only for them to realize they actually just foreal left themselves out.

Got to admit it's going not as badly as I thought it would. But there is still time.

Easier to blame other people for problems than to actually work on fixing the problems at home. Beware politicians that spend their effort blaming others rather than working with others.

@patlynch6517

9 ай бұрын

You mean there are actually politicians who don’t blame everyone else? (I’m in the USA)

@SeverityOne

9 ай бұрын

@@patlynch6517 Well... Anti-Americanism has been a large part of French politics for a long time. Mind, it was useful for internal French politics. It had little to do with foreign policy or the USA itself. While getting convicted in court was not exactly Nicolas Sarkozy's shining moment, getting France back into the NATO fold has to be applauded. Harping against the EU, heavily supported by Rupert Murdoch's media empire, similarly has been an integral part of British internal politics for decades. It's funny to see that, now that the British can run their own affairs, they're making an absolute mess of things. The rest of the EU was better prepared for Brexit than Britain ever was. This whole pro/contra EU business has the strong possibility of tearing the UK apart. I do think that, in due time, a majority of the Northern Irish will vote to rejoin the Republic. I'm not entirely sure what will happen in Scotland, but they too stand a good chance of seeking independence.

@davidjames4057

8 ай бұрын

As a first step Brexit is vital. At least we have a chance now. Next we need to find and elect a decent Govt.

I find the fact that rejoining is becoming more popular quite funny. As if the rest of us would just let you back in and not put you in the back of the queue together with Turkey for reentry...

@welshgit

3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately for you, that is not the opinion of those in the EU that matter.

@mrsentencename7334

2 ай бұрын

Sorry to ruin your hard hard on but we don’t want back in

How can you regret it if you never actually did it?

"EU doesn't look quite as bureaucratic as it did in 2016" Well, Brexit served as a wake-up call for EU too.

@col.hertford9855

Жыл бұрын

And many of the delays were caused by the posturing of the UK government.

@jasonkingshott2971

Жыл бұрын

Probably because Merkel the unelected leader of the EU has gone.

as a EU citizen who looked at brexit with dismay and bitter taste, even if UK wanted back I don't think we should allow it. there are some deep seeded attitude problems in the UK. people should come to terms with that and fix it, before you even get the opportunity to re-join. I'd be extremely dissapointed if my country wouldn't veto against UK rejoining

@Holly23121997

Жыл бұрын

You have to remember that 48% of us wanted to remain. Half of the country. That is millions of people so please don't tar us all with the same brush. Most people I know who voted leave only did it cause they were lied to anyway!

@Voroniel

Жыл бұрын

@@Holly23121997 i appreciate what you're saying, hence why i said fix the attitude issues. Mind you its not like the EU is THE best thing since sliced bread... looking at you Germany... As for the 48%... that percentage will diminish if scotland breaks away... more drama there. Bottom line, wish you all the best Holly, but i don't think I'm alone in my line of thinking

@Holly23121997

Жыл бұрын

@Voroniel tbf the population of Scotland is under 6 million, England alone is around 56 million, so even if they did leave, I doubt the overall percentage would go down by a huge amount really. The breakdown vote for England was 53.4% leave 46.6% remain so not hugely different

@stephenprocter9424

Жыл бұрын

Brilliant. Yes, please. Keep that attitude & do not falter. God Bless you Sir.

@Voroniel

Жыл бұрын

@@stephenprocter9424 i can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. If you are, I'm curious as to why? If you're not, I'm going to say I'm not happy that it's come to this

Skegness is full of potatoes. I went there for a weeks holiday and left after two days. To say shithole would be an understatement.

@peternagy-im4be

4 ай бұрын

You should see Clacton....

still in the middle of trying find a job outside of the uk for the lifestyle and and freedom to move across boarders without feeling like I am being controlled. there were so many under hand methods used that stopped many uni students to chance to vote due to some bs about not having the right address to vote

Still puzzled by all the business owners who didn’t understand basic concepts like the common market and customs union and how leaving would gut their businesses. They should have known they were threatening their own livelihoods. But they didn’t. I mean htf did they build up a business in the first place. That eel farmer on the BBC a year or two ago. Miserably wondering how he was going to survive after losing his customer base in France and Italy. It’s so bizarre.

@RealMash

Жыл бұрын

No, it isn't. Because a class of degenerated toffs are the upper echelons. Not because of merit, but because of inheritances and knowing the right people. So...maybe Brexit will be a good thing for the UK weeding out the incompetent, so new people can take the place. It will make a third country a third world country (check for the original meaning being unaffiliated to either west or eastern block). But hey, they got exactly what they voted for.

@nicemandan

Жыл бұрын

An indirect consequence of leaving the EU is more expensive exports to non EU markets, making UK goods less competitive. For example, the English cheese monger I go to here in Canada gets a selection of cheeses from an EU wholesaler, and within a shipment he would chose a variety of UK cheeses. Since Brexit, there are fewer UK cheeses available from the EU exporter and they're more expensive. It's cost prohibitive to order directly from the UK and therefore UK businesses lose international customers.

@d4v1do

Жыл бұрын

This is why democracy is inherently flawed! The general population are not political technocrats

@DRKrust492

Жыл бұрын

Businesses understood. PEOPLE didn't. People vote, not businesses.

@Arltratlo

Жыл бұрын

the ones who got a grip on reality are paying now taxes in the EU....and have EU workers, with EU workers rights...! must be terrifying fore them to not hire and fire anymore, they got used to it since 2021!

Well, maybe the EU is working more efficient now BECAUSE the UK is out? Let's be honest: The UK never was fully committed the the ideas and principles of the EU , especially free movement (not a Schengen member) or the Euro as a single currency. As one of the former "big 4" (GER, FRA, ITA, UK), the UK was often the most conservative player, slowing down the integrations process. I think the EU should use the "spanner not in the works" situation to reform itself.

@louis-philippearnhem6959

Жыл бұрын

I completely agree

@himoffthequakeroatbox4320

Жыл бұрын

Secretly the huns liked having us in, since we tended to agree with them on a lot of things but they didn't like to be so overt about it.

@JoshSweetvale

Жыл бұрын

I wonder who did more to sabotage the EU: England (nothing 'united' about its Isles) or Greece and its economic lunacy?

@spaghettiisyummy.3623

Жыл бұрын

May Hungary leave next, then!

@charis6311

Жыл бұрын

@@himoffthequakeroatbox4320 Oh sweety, try and keep up with the right millenium.