You want the Hot D, but you need the Bad Dragon.

@mihaelo7333

Жыл бұрын

Underrated comment

@theimperialfistsspacemarin3050

Жыл бұрын

100th like

@graveyardshoes45

Жыл бұрын

LMFAO

@riakun

9 ай бұрын

I have found the perfect comment to this video. I love it

@amellirizarry9503

6 ай бұрын

Cursed but Acurate 😭

Thank you for these tangent free, precise, uncut, purely concentrated character analyses. Loved every minute

@jordonby

Жыл бұрын

All about effective efficiency here at the podcast

Glimbus and Schwimble together again, my favourite hot Ds

@BrutalSnuggles

Жыл бұрын

I believe it's pluralized 'hots d'

@devlinarchery9798

Жыл бұрын

@@BrutalSnuggles ya cause its " house of the sexy" dicks ahhh sry dragons i mean ...

@literallyasneeze2135

Жыл бұрын

😳

@seanisnotjohn

Жыл бұрын

@@literallyasneeze2135 😩

@thaneofwhiterun3562

Жыл бұрын

My favourite funcles

I love when Glinda and Alternative Softpunk pretend they base these rankings on anything other than vibes. Vizzy T energy

@ninacaracol

Жыл бұрын

they are so Orys III coded

@diaperfang5293

Жыл бұрын

@@ninacaracol bruh yall got me dying rn

@diegoborges1348

Жыл бұрын

Vibes-based stream.

@bierwolf8360

Жыл бұрын

@@Dreamgirlinc 1. Adultery (sex before and outside of marriage). 2. Seducing a member of the Kingsguard just for fun. 3. Passing off bastards as trueborns. 4. Incest with a murderer.... You're about as bright as the night sky during a new moon.

@bza1909

Жыл бұрын

@@Dreamgirlinc maybe I'll regret commenting this, but surely it's a lot earlier than that in equivalent Earth history? This is like pre-Renaissance Europe right?

"The Gods have yet to make a Glidus that stops dropping sick content, your grace."

You should do what we’ve all been waiting for: A dragon alignment ranking

@kilgore_trout_37

Жыл бұрын

Most f*ckabke, and who’s a good boy?

@Hey_Loser

Жыл бұрын

They're all Chaotic/Evil except noodle neck who is Chaotic/Cute

@greenberry6019

Жыл бұрын

@@Hey_Loser Not true. Nana Vhagar is Chaotic/Old

@Darkstar_Dayne

Жыл бұрын

Do what you will just rank my boy Caraxes on #1

@aerrowqueing

Жыл бұрын

@@Hey_Loser alignments gotta be lawful-chaotic and badass-cute

You are just such a wonderful duet. The chemistry, the wit, the wonderfully wacky rambling insights and tangents are just amazing. I will listen to this over and over just like your previous colabs. Please make them more frequent. What you produce together is one of a kind.

@Oli-ey7rt

Жыл бұрын

2:20:00 is literally the best moment haha

@freyjan8069

Жыл бұрын

@@Oli-ey7rt There are so many wonderful moments. Glidus lovely laughter at the 9/11 comment. Schwifty believing for a split second that the Moribus meme actually is from Doctor Who. Glidus not wanting to talk about Alicent. Over three hours of joy and fun. They are so great together. ❤️

@rissjohnson3308

Жыл бұрын

I listen to these to fall asleep or while washing dishes. Maybe this is a weird parasocial relationship but it’s OUR parasocial relationship

@freyjan8069

Жыл бұрын

@@rissjohnson3308 Haha, me too. Glidus actually woke me up once with his avatarian “Secret tunnel” song in the very same stream that he joked about accomplishing that.

@rissjohnson3308

Жыл бұрын

@@freyjan8069 rip your eardrums. I always laugh when he makes that joke because I’m waiting for it to happen to me lol

The issue with the cancer Aemma analogy is that what you forgot to mention is that Glidus GAVE Swift the lung cancer

@Glidus

Жыл бұрын

haha yeah i’m cheeky like that

@mikeschwartz1764

Жыл бұрын

@@Glidus Out here giving people that Glidanoma

@SpiralSine6

Жыл бұрын

He’s got that Wayne Tech Cancer Ray from the Harley Quinn show

@731freeman

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeschwartz1764 man, I would kill to catch some Glidanoma.

@willbeard4835

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeschwartz1764 glicoma was right there for you mate. I got you tho

Swifty and Glidus my favorite lunatics

@dogman6687

Жыл бұрын

Shwifty and Glimbus *

@xrphoenix7194

Жыл бұрын

@@dogman6687 Schwifty and Glimbo**

@TrueYellowDart

Жыл бұрын

@@xrphoenix7194Shwaftee and Glawmbious

@tugraefeesen2465

Жыл бұрын

@@TrueYellowDart shafttea and Gloombious

@danielburgess7101

Жыл бұрын

*Glimbus and Shwimble

Glidus is emulating George now with releases

@HOTD108_

Жыл бұрын

Like father like son.

1:41 :50 the silence leading up to “you just hate women” killed me😂

@franksloe5087

Жыл бұрын

I came across this comment at 1:41:20 and got very excited lol

Like, glidus and shwiftomus prime bantering over the dragon show for hours feels like I'm listening to friends, it's such a vibe.

@smecclesshwifty8548

Жыл бұрын

@callmecatalyst correct

@Skiivin

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s because they’re friends

i like your analysis of otto being frustrated with daemon's recklessness and overt power vs otto's scheming, echoes alicent's frustration with rhaenyra's flaunting of customs as well

@Glidus

Жыл бұрын

hightowers: NOOOO you can't just be blatant with your power-grabs you have to be a schemey wemey for a couple of decades 😭😭 targaryens: dragon go brrr

@alanpennie8013

Жыл бұрын

@@Glidus Touch of the Doran Martells.

@kaybee4850

Жыл бұрын

I like grapes

It’s alright everyone, glidus is working on all the blisstakes at the same time so they’ll come out closer together

@rissjohnson3308

Жыл бұрын

Upon Glidus’ death all of the blisstakes will be released at once actually

On the point of the Targaryen dynasty’s death beginning with Balerion’s death, I think a lot could also be said for how Viserys chose Balerion purely because he was a *symbol* of Old Valyrian power, despite how he was old sleepy and past his prime- the fact that the Targaryen dynasty continually clings to some myth of Old Valyria instead of continually reinventing themselves is part of what spells their doom. It’s fire’s nature to destroy the old to make room for the new, and the many of the most successful Targaryens were those who forged new paths with their power instead of simply using it to cling to old ideas. This could contrast with the Watch and the North where traditionalism may be represented more positively(?) in the long term but that may just be my terminal dualism-brain.

@Glidus

Жыл бұрын

Cool point. The Watch itself starts to crumble once Jon begins re-evaluating the way they do things, so it's probably more an example of the same than of the opposite.

@shutit8949

3 ай бұрын

The targs are very Chinese in that aspect.

I would love to watch these two talk about a BadDragon show

@hecticscone

Жыл бұрын

"...and here we have Flint XL. What are your immediate thoughts on that, Glidus?"

@MaxwellAerialPhotography

Жыл бұрын

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

@Hombay17

Жыл бұрын

Check out the Alt Schwift X channel.

@4trym

Жыл бұрын

Sounds yummy!

@yesman9792

Жыл бұрын

"that's not gonna fit in there"

When your only real proof that Glimbo and Schwifty aren't the same guy in verbal cosplay is their livestreams.

@elonif4125

Жыл бұрын

I always thought both are Time Traveling Bran

@angelalovell5669

Жыл бұрын

@@elonif4125 Close. Current working theory is that Glimbubble is a time travelling Tyrion phoetus with draconic tendencies who voice acts as Preston Jacobs for additional clout and Alternative Shaft IS all three sentient jetpacks (Internet Historian is the fourth sneakrit jetpack that little Rickon uses to nip by the Skagos cannibals when they get nommy for a snack cake). I'm 96% of the way to rumbling these boys.

@rissjohnson3308

Жыл бұрын

@@elonif4125 no, only Schwifty is Time Traveling Bran. Glidus is a horse

@alejandrobernal9200

Жыл бұрын

@@rissjohnson3308 everyone is a horse.

@greenberry6019

Жыл бұрын

@@angelalovell5669 wasn't the most prevalent theory about Jacobs that he's George's son? Also, the theory about Gloobus being Preston is confirmed wrong, since they've appeared on a livestream together at the same time, and also Preston is Voldemort on Hotpie's shoulders

This summer, your extended livestreams got me through two weeks of 12-hour shifts, as I nursed my post-surgery cat back from near-death (he's since made a full recovery). Your spirits, and humor, buoyed me through my fear and exhaustion. My deepest thanks to both of you!

@RandallBalls

Жыл бұрын

As someone whose cat also just had scurgery, I know your pain

@Kingedwardiii2003

10 ай бұрын

Literally me at the restaurant I work at from 11am to 8pm xD

the maegor stans are unironically my favourite part of the fandom it is so fucking funny watching them go absolutely feral over how "maegor the cool" was based actually for doing a little bit of attempted genocide as a treat

@roronoalaw7772

Жыл бұрын

Very strange people

@GriffinNeilReese

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s weird that we didn’t see the Targaryen’s have a different view of Maegor. They have a shrine to baelareon, that seems at odds with faith of the seven worship.

@targaryen7029

Жыл бұрын

I love Targaryens but even I draw a line when it comes to Maegor lol. Fuck that guy. Maegor stans are weird.

@alanpennie8013

Жыл бұрын

@@GriffinNeilReese Probably Jaehaerys found it useful to scapegoat him.

Schwifty and Gilgamesh ... together at last. A pair of Quirky aussies talkin HoT D and BadDragons. Stay classy lads, should consider making this a regular podcast

@TheBoytitsExperience

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like the intro to an 80’s animated series

@Hombay17

Жыл бұрын

They have done several collaborations before, check out the Alt Schwift X channel

@dnacat5062

Жыл бұрын

How have I somehow never noticed that Schwift is Australian

I can't believe you made Daemon less chaotic than Rhaenyra, I feel like he is one of the most chaotic characters I've ever seen in this universe. Also, I hope you'll do the rest of the characters! Loved this 👌🏻

@zehsackett6132

Жыл бұрын

Daemon is all over the place. He lays down the law on peasants even though he's a lawbreaker. And he consistently supports his family when it really matters. Rhaenyra mostly just does what she feels like doing at the time.

@QualityPen

Ай бұрын

They should both be way more chaotic. Daemon is, well, I don’t even have to explain. Rhaenyra rejects any inconvenient traditions and gaslights everyone for years until it results in a war. I still can’t fathom how we’re expected to think that Viserys believed her.

viserys also totally neglected his children and seemed to leave all the raising to his wife. even rhaenyra before aemma died, it seems like he only started paying attention to her out of guilt and still did little to prepare her politically. and the way he handled the situation with luke and aemond further alienated and disenfranchised his sons.

@targaryen7029

Жыл бұрын

This is a change in the show I disliked. In the book, it is said Rhaenyra was very close to Viserys since she was a child and often seen around him. I think the change in Rhaenyra and Alicent's age and making Aemma die only when Rhaenyra was a teenager changed their relationship and made Viserys appear negletful even with Rhaenyra. But yes, he was horrible and absent father to Aegon, Helaena and Aemond.

@arutlit62

Жыл бұрын

@@targaryen7029 in the books from what we know he seemed to be closer with Halaena than he is in the show, she did bring her kids to him before he died and shit, and he’s the one to send Rhaenyra away to Dragonstone

@targaryen7029

Жыл бұрын

@@arutlit62 Oh yes, forgot about Helaena being closer to him in the books also. I really missed Helaena bringing her little children to hear histories from him.

i also think an interesting part about the "did viserys kill aemma" question is that the maester tells viserys that they gave aemma all the milk of the poppy possible "without harming the baby." so it's kind of like, well, is there a way to save amma and potentially lose the baby? that was never a question asked or considered by anyone because aemma's purpose was as a royal baby factory, so the thought of losing the baby to save her never would have crossed anyone's minds, especially after aemma made it clear that she could not withstand another pregnancy, so it would mean to lose baelon and the prospect of any future heir

@jensen8216

Жыл бұрын

I think it’s a worthwhile point to make that no one even considered prioritizing Aemma over Baelon (except Rhaenyra), but milk of the poppy is purely a painkiller. I’m pretty sure that line just meant they’d given her as much for the pain as they could, not that there was some treatment that might have saved her.

@MeekMedian

Жыл бұрын

@@jensen8216 haha yeah no lol i get that and i didnt say that milk of the poppy was the saving drug/treatment, it was just to point out that it also raises the question of- is there anything that could actually save her that no one is bringing up because no one cares enough about her?

@HB-ey2dk

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I think it's not as downright evil that people make it, as if he had the option to save her. But what I think he could've done is talked to her first instead of sneakily deciding and holding her down and slicing her open.

@greenberry6019

Жыл бұрын

@@HB-ey2dk and also not forcing her to give birth from a young age until it kills her

@flursanderdander8484

Жыл бұрын

Well to be fair the grand maester is regarded as the top doctor around so if he says this is the case then Viserys kinda has to belive him. You can argue weather the maester kept his mouth shut because he wanted to save the baby and not Aemma but i wouldnt really blame Viserys for basically trusting the best doctor around

Watched this 20 times, haven’t made it through once without falling asleep. Thanks guys:)

@Glidus

Жыл бұрын

glad we could help :)

@Bubreherro

Жыл бұрын

Watched this maybe 20 times (at the very least 10), still discovering precious bits

And when the world needed him most, he returned, with a 3 hour video and his nemesis/lover

I have to say, one thing that really didn't sit well with me was how they framed Alicent's turn to making her son king as "She misunderstood what Viserys said on his deathbed". It's such a copout, and really robs her of a defining decision. Instead of her choosing her son - her children - over Rhaenyra, a definitive choice as a culmination of her character arc in S1, now its just "well she still wants to be Rhaenyra's friend, BUT she's just being true to Viserys' last words". She thinks it's Viserys' decision, which is insane because not only are there at least 3 Aegons he could have been talking about, she knew he was regularly confused and she knew that Rhaenyra as his heir is the one thing he never budged about. Like Aegon II said: "He had twenty years to make me heir". just such a disappointing moment.

@jordonby

Жыл бұрын

Yee

@TemariNaraannaschatz

Жыл бұрын

I'd say Alicents moment is an accumulation of Otto consistently telling her that Aegon should be king more than anything. Episode 1-4, maybe even 5 Alicent wouln't have believed that Viserys would have ment Aegon her son to be crowned, but Alicent who had Otto around her for the past decade or so certainly got pushed by him in a certain direction. It's not a contious decision she makes, it's a subcontious one based on years of being told what should be.

@Inkspeckle

Жыл бұрын

@@TemariNaraannaschatz would be cool if they could have communicated that to the audience. I get that subtext and implication is a big thing in GRRM stuff, but sometimes its better to be less vague about key plot points

@TemariNaraannaschatz

Жыл бұрын

@@Inkspeckle I haven't watched the inside of the episode, but maybe they said somethig there. On the other hand I think it makes sense to not ecplain everything. People who hate Alicent will interpret it as malicious, people who love Alicent will say it's an honest mistake and tge reality is most likely something in the middle.

@CharlieQuartz

Жыл бұрын

It is still Alicent’s decision to grasp frantically in that moment to the most absurdly constructed of reasons. She wants to put her son on the throne and assure power is vested in her family and finally has the excuse to make it happen. She doesn’t want to kill Rhaenyra, but she *does* choose her children and damns the consequences of the coming conflict by hiding behind the words of her dying husband, just as she hides in her religion and ideals of justice when she recruits the wicked and deceitful. Throughout the second half of the season she falters on her voiced principles to gain power and persuasion in the court in alliances with powerful men. All of her actions in episode 9 are directed by her own desires for the power to protect her children and banish (or even destroy) her opponents in the guise of justice.

On re-watch, I've realized Viserys was far crueler to Alicent than she to ever was to him, despite what Twitter says. I love him and he was the best part of the show for me, but He took advantage of Alicent, destroyed her relationship with Rhaenrya, isolated her in her misery, and then showed zero gratitude for the faithfulness she showed him. The only recognition Alicent received was from Rhaenrya's grudging toast, which she returned in earnest. And yet she still mourned Viserys.

@TemariNaraannaschatz

Жыл бұрын

There's a lot of right things you say, but the guy has dementia, same as his grandfather. You don't choose to forget people, your brain just starts with the oldest memories and then goes back, it's not linear, you can snap back (until you can't anymore) and it's pretty horrible for all family members that get forgotten (source: I'm a family member).

@BillEcoff

Жыл бұрын

@@TemariNaraannaschatz eh I was hammered

@TemariNaraannaschatz

Жыл бұрын

@@BillEcoff Fair enough. While writing or watching? ;)

@justinehelene4831

Жыл бұрын

And he gave her children no real love or care. Which would be so depressing if you were a teenage bride mostly unwillingly. Even though viserys was a great character

@knightr0685

Жыл бұрын

@@TemariNaraannaschatz prolly both the dude dumb

My head canon is that Orys III was a pre-conquest king of one of the many kingdoms

@gathenhielm9977

Жыл бұрын

That's actually not a bad take. Tommen is (legally) a Baratheon so Tywin could have referred to one of the Storm Kings.

@HOTD108_

Жыл бұрын

Orys for prez.

@HOTD108_

Жыл бұрын

Wait, isn't it Orys the First, not Orys the Third?

@greenberry6019

Жыл бұрын

Orys is a Baratheon name, so it would make all the sense in the world for Tywin to be educating the future Baratheon King with the history of his pre-Conquest royal ancestors. The massive problem being that the Baratheons didn't even exist before the Conquest, as they were a part of the Dragonstone household. The Stormlands were ruled by the Durrandons, which presumably had a different naming scheme.

@Brams2777

Жыл бұрын

@@HOTD108_ Yes. They're merging Orys I and Maegor III.

I'm 1/3 of the way through this vod and they haven't even categorised two characters yet. Still talking about rhaenyra, love those tangents

Gotta love that you both think of "if I had a time machine I'd go back in time with the current books to give George a head start" instead of "if I had a time machine I'd jump forward to when the Winds of Winter is done" lol

Something no one's talked about is that Lyman Beesbury was killed by having his head smashed on his small council ball, which itself represents the duty of the councilors, their role in serving the crown. It was his sense of duty that got Lyman killed, its fitting that the manifestation of duty was the object that killed him

@franksloe5087

Жыл бұрын

underrated comment

@evannesbitt7852

Жыл бұрын

@@franksloe5087 ay thank you. It's something only the wormiest of brains like mine appreciate

@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120

5 ай бұрын

Best ?

Schwift & Glidus wondering why people like to hear them talk. It's like that one direction song : "You don't know you're beautiful, that what makes you beautiful."

@angelalovell5669

Жыл бұрын

Oof, is THAT one of their lyrics? Jesus, talk about some old dude feeding toxic shit to semi-children to spout in the general direction of teen girls and adult women. Sorry, not meaning to completely tank your lovely compliment, but that is some garbage songwriting. Your implications, boys, are super gross. (look at me assuming some 50-something year old Swedish dude writes all of OneD's songs... I am such a 90s kid)

@ruigerd

Жыл бұрын

@@angelalovell5669 I get your apprehension lol, didn't give a thought to the songwriters. Gotta say, they know their audience well apparently. Although I feel quite strongly that you are more likeable (and in some instances attractive) if you're humble. There is a fine line between arrogance, confidence, humility and discarding your own value in respect to others in my honest opinion

@ruigerd

Жыл бұрын

@@angelalovell5669 oh and I don't like their songs, I just devote myself to them cause they're hot dudes

You two constantly giggling is 1000% my sense of humor; I love how you can make a good point while being light about it. My people!

Blisstake episode 6 is Glidus’ Winds Of Winter

Harwyn could have been strong enough to break the door, but who was Holding the Door? Hodor is the ghost of Harrenhall confirm?

I will say as someone who walks with a cane, I genuinely find it so fucking funny that Larys has a foot fetish. I get why someone might dislike it, but it does not at all bother me. Go off girlboss and all that. Also, I genuinely really love this framework for analysis because while it does not at all work for such complex characters, it does lead to very interesting discussions about morality and the rule of law. I really love listening to you guys discuss what it means to be lawful because despite having played DnD for ages, I'd never really thought about it that way.

Idk, I think Alicent's care for Viserys is the best thing she's done, at least, I can't think of any other action of any other character that was as selfless (although motives can be considered doubtful, her reactions to Viserys' pain in the throne room scene and her scene with his corpse show a clear affection).

@Wolf6119

Жыл бұрын

She vouched for Rhaenyra when she first claimed not to have slept with Daemon, costing her own dad his position at court to try and help her friend, and she did also stop Criston from committing suicide. I guess you could question how selfless that was since she did ultimately benefit from it in the long run, but I do think on at least some level she recognized they were kindred spirits and wanted to help him regardless of the outcome.

@roronoalaw7772

Жыл бұрын

Rhaenyra has done objectively worse things so putting her in good and Alicent in evil makes no fucking sense

@HOTD108_

Жыл бұрын

@@roronoalaw7772 Citation?

@sedmikrasky.

Жыл бұрын

@@HOTD108_ Most of the bad deeds she does are not born out of cruelty but recklessness and selfishness, there are fewer instances of her directly scheming some political trap precisely because she refuses to engage in politics unless absolutely necessary, she wants the crown but refuses to carry the weight. She caused general unrest and unnecessary tension with other houses with the tour fiasco, swore a lie on her dead mother to Alicent which made her vouch for Rhaenyra to Viserys and then negotiated with her father to have the one who told him about the Daemon thing removed on the grounds that it was a foul lie despite both of them knowing it was true, she was also Viserys' only child at the time and was being indiscreet enough as to be seen casually in a brothel with her uncle which could have launched a sucession crisis right there. Most of this things can be argued are also Visery's fault because he went along and allowed them to happen. She then went on to put all her children's lifes at risk by having them with Harwin Strong (who was also at risk but he was not coerced into it and is a grown adult) AND trying to pass them off as Velaryons (THIS is the core problem, the much higher stigma around highborn women having bastards vs highborn men is a thing but it was making them heirs under a false paternity which is a crime) without neither her or Viserys doing anything to hide the fact that they are bastards except intimidating people by torturing or killing them if mentioned, this is taking the succession crisis and entailing war as a granted because in this scenario it would have happened regardless of the children's true parentage but if she was still Viserys' sole child and named heir the fact that her heirs are bastards would have been much more disastrous. After her arrangement with Laenor was no longer working for her she and Daemon faked his death very soon after Corlys and Rhaenys had lost their other child (and were already bitter towards the Targaryens.) And then went on to make arguably her biggest fuck up by marrying Daemon, a man she knows is violent, cruel and borderline (if not one) sociopathic who she HAS to know at this point killed his first wife or at least how he ran the city guard as a glorified fight club for his entertaintment, and who was the sole reason why she was made heir *in the first place*. I don't remember if the show directly points this out but a good chunk of why people don't want her as queen is because they dont want Daemon as her consort, she was made heir because nobody wants Daemon as king and she had to know, by marrying him whilist keeping her claim as heir she made war almost innevitable. The more direct act that comes to mind for most people I would think, was calling for Viserys to torture Aemond, who is a child, her brother, and freshly mutilated, to be tortured ("questioned sharply" is used as an euphemism for ""interrogation"" under heavy torture several times in the books) when she heard he called her sons bastards. This is not me ranting about how she is such an evil morally bankrupt witch, I do not think Rhaenyra is inheritly malevolent or this one dimensional block of pure evil, same way I don't feel she is a beacon of good and freedom, nor Alicent for that matter and I quite like their characters because of it. I think she is a flawed individual like everyone else in the series but with the amount of chaos and grief her refusal to see the bigger picture for her own 100% selfserving interests have caused and her very clear case of Targaryen excepcionalism mindset (Even if these are things Viserys enabled or encouraged, she is still an adult with her own agency) up I would not believe her to be a very morally good person. Very few people do evil while revelling in how evil their actions are and this show and the way the conflicts snowballed are a very clear demonstration of what a few mistakes and missed oportunities can do overtime.

@roronoalaw7772

Жыл бұрын

@@HOTD108_ Killing an innocent dude to help fake Laenor’s death.

Hearing Glidus and Schwift mention Hbomberguy is like seeing your uncle on your dad’s side meeting your uncle on your mom’s side (I’m not explaining that)

@Rougarou99

Жыл бұрын

Apart from funeral visitations, I am not sure if I have ever seen any of my uncles/aunts have actually meet, but I completely understand what you mean.

Viserys also was a really bad dad to his four youngest. Calling Rhaenyra his only child was really hardbreaking for me.

@TemariNaraannaschatz

Жыл бұрын

As someone with family members with Alzheimers, Viserys mental state late really hits home. People with dementia forget your existence, but it makes it really painful for family members. And looking back at 2 year old Aegon, it clearly wasn't always like that and he does have love for his children with Alicent. He was by no means a great father to his children by Alicent, but some of it was surely due to the dementia he inherited from his father setting in. People can seem extremly fine and not remember things to the point you barely notice and it's hard to tell with Viserys when we know his memory loss has set in, if it's bad parenting or the illness.

@targaryen7029

Жыл бұрын

Viserys was horrible towards his children with Alicent, but I don't blame him in that scene when he called Rhaenyra his only child, he was clearly drugged and out of his mind. It's the same when he called Alicent Aemma by mistake. I think he didn't even realize what he was saying.

@Peppered_Spores

Жыл бұрын

Well, she basically was. She was the only child created out of love instead of lust, the others aren't Alicent's children either really, they were forced into and out of her, she understandably probably doesn't love them either. 🤷‍♂ They're items to be used politically, not humans, that's the sad reality.

@thalmoragent9344

5 ай бұрын

​@Peppered_Spores Lmao what? They're definitely Alicent's kids, and she definitely loves them. She's hard on Aegon but given the circumstance, what parent wouldn't? And didn't Viserys tell Rhaenyra that he married for love, and not advantage? So... where is your argument coming from?

I wanted to use this stream to fall asleep to, but I kept laughing too much so here I am back and more awake 😂

I love the relationship between young Allicent and Rheanyra. To me it's very ambiguous as to weather or not they're in love with each other in a sexual sense and I honestly love that about it. Personally I totally relate to it, close female friendships really can be simultaneously platonic and kind of romantic at the same time. There's an emotional intimacy and love there that the loss of is just as tragic weather or not they're in love in a conventional romantic or sexual sense.

@lostalone9320

5 ай бұрын

So women can be friends in a way that is both sexual and non-sexual at the same time?

@ColeBresnehen

3 ай бұрын

@@lostalone9320anyone can, quite frankly

The chemistry between you two is immaculate. Like I really hope you are good friends even outside youtube. Such an amazing stream.

This friendship is so wholesome and lovely to listen to. Made my day!

You two exude so much "bro" energy with each other. The chemistry is as deep and natural as it can be platonically, its great. I would give Larys a flashdrive full of feet pics for a show where Glizzy and Alternate Shwik Xtreme comment over the show like Football announcers

It taking them over half an hour to get one person on to the chart is so on brand with these two

Was so close to falling asleep when he shouted "secret tunnels"

I love categorizing complex characters into black and white good and evil categories too!

@maggiecramer8154

Жыл бұрын

There is very clearly another axis for chaotic and lawful

@bellabell6659

Жыл бұрын

@@maggiecramer8154 this is very clearly a joke

This is exactly what I needed today. Fucking love to see you two back again ❤

I think the Maegor apologists just hate the Faith of the Seven, which if you A) like Targaryens and B) believe in the Hightower-Maester-Faith of the Seven conspiracy, is an understandable position

@irondragonmaiden

8 ай бұрын

I like the Ironborn and the Northerners better and I despise the Faith of the Seven BECAUSE it behaves exactly like how institutionalized religions act as a political faction.I despise religious institutions because it wants to brainwash people into doing toxic shit so they can remain in power, and that's what the Faith does. (And at least the narrative is a lot more upfront about the issues with Drowned Men and the Old Gods religion doesn't play around with people's lives Vatican style)

The comedic timing at 1:41 :47 made me laugh so hard I teared up, that was fantastic. Glad to see the boyz talkin' dragon show!!

2:00 :20 Is quite possibly the single funniest thing I’ve ever heard Schwift say

Glidus truly is the George R. R. Martin of George R. R. Martin youtube content.

“ FEWER! Got em! “ Mannis would be proud

We were robbed of secret daddy Harwin Strong, and I'm still pissed about it. We needed more time with him in general, him with Rhaenyra and the kids, and him with his father and brother. But Glindus and Schwiftus had such a fun stream once again!

@avabeth2535

Жыл бұрын

I felt like if they did too much, it would take away his mystique and the curse of Harrenhal

@HB-ey2dk

5 ай бұрын

Fyi, there's a really good fan fic of daddy Harwin that helps a little bit 🙃 though I agree, they completely screwed us by cutting that relationship short.

@ETibbs11

5 ай бұрын

@@HB-ey2dk I'd love to read it! Where can I find it? :)

@HB-ey2dk

5 ай бұрын

@@ETibbs11 it's called Breakbones and the Dragon Rider I think if you Google that it'll take you to the website (archive of our own).

Damn, too many comments on video (but engagement good yes please algyrhythm?) but I also have to point out to Glimbot that I think the Dragon Keepers are our biggest clue into the functioning of Valyrian society and the dragonlord elite so far. I was SO excited when they showed up on screen. Of COURSE they had dragon grooms, they're largely not training and maintaining their dragons themselves, just like kings and lords often have little to do with their horses apart from riding them. But who were they? How many of them speak Valyrian, how many the common tongue? Are they supposed to know/use both or preferably not? Is it a familial order, or is it fed from orphanages and/or the poor, or maybe do smaller houses send third or fourth sons to please the royal family? Do they have any fire resistance or sterility or any other magical influence from constant proximity to dragons? Has a dragon keeper ever rode a dragon? We know it's not ONLY a Targ trait, but also there are a multitude of dragonseed out in the world, especially as time goes on. What do they know/think about Old Valyria? Surely the original dragon keepers were slaves of some sort... or maybe not, maybe it was a mark of honour to send children to work for... the dragon guild or something? Or did they used to have some dragon genes mixed in to help them do their work, just not enough to be dragon riders? How much does any of this carry over to Westeros? How many things have they learned about dragons that maesters or even Targs don't know? What ends up happening to them? Dragon keepers. They're intriguing as shit.

we need a ranking of which characters are most likely to be horses in disguise

@jessjess23brooks89

6 ай бұрын

It's at least half. And the other half are secret Targs, naturally.

@ghirahimlefabuleux8984

4 ай бұрын

​@@jessjess23brooks89 The third Targ/Horse axis

These two streaming together is an absolute treat. Wish they'd do a live-stream following every episode next season of HOTD. No format. Just shooting the shit in no particular order like they pretty much are here. Pure gold.

Stannis is the rightful king

Two of my fav Dragon Show Lore Masters! Lovely video ty!

3 hours just to talk about 8 characters is TIGHT !

@Tripleat117

Жыл бұрын

Personally I felt this stream was really rushed. Not enough time was taken to talk about these characters

@corbans5796

Жыл бұрын

​@Tripleat Really, we needed 8 hours at least. They probably rushed it so they could go off and do a podcast about star wars 🙄

“Why do I swear in the first 15 seconds… we’re coming to you live from the Universe” - Glimbus you magnificent [redacted]. Didn’t discover your content until after the bad dragon show, but glad to have you during the good dragon show. My fav vibes-based kings

this is so relaxing to listen to

So Harwin is chaotic evil for making babies w/ Rhaenyra but she’s chaotic good?

@nouhorni3229

4 ай бұрын

Why would her alignment determine his? That stuff is not in the story, it's 9 broad classes we apply from the outside, in retrospect.

These lads are my *very favorite* dragon show talk-abouters on the interwebs.

I looked forward to you and Nerdrotic’s after-show streams almost more than the show itself every week. Thank you for extending my enjoyment of this great show to the maximum.

This was such a good stream

@HOTD108_

Жыл бұрын

That's what she said.

@smecclesshwifty8548

Жыл бұрын

No

im currently listening to all your livestreams fot the like fourth time and i absolutely love your voice and how much you know about asoif. its great to multitask to! thanks for doing them (also for the collaborations with schwift)!

Great video overall but uhhhh, in line with the vast majority of other fans and the apparent mass fangirling for the likes of Deamon, Alicent is getting done absolutely dirty here. Surely the best thing she does is the major plot point of episode 9 when she has to race Otto to find a missing Aegon so that she can influence him to prevent the order to have Rhaenyra and her family killed from being carried out - something which she succeeds in as she finally starts to meaningfully stand up to him. Is she flawed? Yes of course, but I'd say most of her worst flaws are derived from the way she was used as a political pawn from a young age by her scheming father, in contrast to Rhaenyra whom the vast majority of the time received nothing but love and affection from hers. As queen, Alicent of course has a lot of power, but she has also been emotionally trapped by it (again from a young age) by her marriage to a dying old incompetent king and by her 3 ghastly children that she was effectively forced to have with him, rather than chose to have as in Rhaenyra's case.

schwifty saying my name twice is a strong contender for moment of the year for me ngl

@bfarewell296

Жыл бұрын

Hi Orys III

I just wanted to say thank you both for staying on point, never wavering off topic, always being succinct, and forever keeping it PG, boys!!! 🎶 SECRET TUNNEL 🕳️ 🎵 THROUGH THE MOUNTAIN 🏔️

You two are so wonderfully witty. Thank you for your spicy banter.

Bart started tripping balls off an all-syrup squishy in Boy Scoutz n the Hood

i love these because schwift gets goofy on glidus's level

“Welcome to the Milly Alcock’s Nose podcast “ lmao

I have such a blast every time you guys make a podcast together. Thank you for this content!

Gladius and Shins discuss the warm lizard show. Wonderful!

These streams are gold! I love the banter, i could easily listen to this all day

I never really saw Rhaenyra’s attempts at “reconciliation” were all that selfless or heroic. They seemed to me to be a lot more like her covering her own ass and trying to shirk the consequences of her actions.

re Rhaenyra giving laenor and qarl the escape criston offered. it was ALSO her giving them the escape SHE wanted with alicent, the one she mentioned in episode 1.

After a long quiet period (with some COVID in between) it's good to hear you're back on form Gildus, looking forward to the next Blisstake videos :)

When Sam was dealing with Mormonts greyscale he was reading from a book by one of the maesters,he said himself,he just followed the instructions!

I think Rhaenyra should be slightly below or at least in the good/evil line because she wanted to have young Aemond tortured.

@fox2569

Жыл бұрын

Also ya know, being fine with murdering an innocent guy?? Lol baffling to put her in good, also they put Harwin in evil for fathering bastards but Rhaenyra gets a pass on that because...reasons? 🤣

@roronoalaw7772

Жыл бұрын

Also for being part of murdering a random guy.

@xrphoenix7194

Жыл бұрын

There are various levels of "sharp" questioning. Spanking someone until they give up information is not the same as bamboo splints under the finger nails

@roronoalaw7772

Жыл бұрын

@@xrphoenix7194 ‘Sharply questioned’ is shorthand for torture in the books so it’s safe to say Aemond wouldn’t have gotten spanked.

@notyetawomen5257

Жыл бұрын

Yeah poor dude he just lost an eye as well.

200 minutes of bantery nonsense from my two favourite Westerosi nerds? I'm saving this for my first day back at work tomorrow.

“Truth is a myth” - Altshift X / Altswift X / Internet Historian

I think that Mysaria snitching on Daemon "celebrating" Baelon being dead serves to get Viserys to banish Daemon to the Vale and sacked as commander of the gold cloaks, the latter of which may have been her objective after the night of terror he had them carry out at the beginning of the episode and his lack of concern for the lowborn, since just pointing at someone and yelling "murderer" means that the guy gets executed, besides all the mutilation

Love falling asleep to Glimbus and Schwifty doing ASOIAF Character Alignment and waking up to this. Had to rub my eyes!

Keep doing stuff together!!

@HOTD108_

Жыл бұрын

Keep doing each other together!

So glad you’re starting to feel better Glidus, FANTASTIC video as always :-)

This is fucking amazing!! I love listening to you dissecting all of this and just chit chat (or whatever you call it)! Love you guys and love HotD!!

I would LOVE to hear you guys talk about Bojack Horseman, or whatever else you’d want to talk about, hearing the two of you banter is genuinely some of the most entertaining stuff on KZread. Plus it’s your channel, do whatever you bloody please with it

Hahahahaha half an hour in, rants later,"should we... Move someone around on the alignment chart?" 🤣 Magnificent

I remember seeing this one tweet that went like « Cersei is the patriarchy’s biggest enabler, fan and victim » and that’s also quite like alicent in a way

I think what makes Rhaenyra ultimately more sympathetic as a character is that we are shown how caring and warm she is with her immediate family. Especially when directly contrasted with Allicent. Rhaenyra is very loving with her children, embraces her step-daughters, clearly cares about Leanor, has what seems to be a loving relationship with Harwin, and clearly is shown to love her father. Rhaenyra just seems to have grown up, has become more responsible, and a more well-rounded person compared to her teenage years. I was quite impressed that they gave her the lines about actually being servant and protector to the realm, in ep 10 when she talks to her kids before sending them off. Shows how much the prophecy has driven that change. Alicent, on the other hand, was actually the more sympathetic of the two in the first half of the season. However, she isn't a very dynamic person and has just grown more bitter over the years. We don't see Allicent being loving with any of her children (except Heleana a few times), most of the time she is actually shown to be either verbally, physically, or emotionally abusive to them. That is not to say that she doesn't care. She obviously cares deeply about her family, including Viserys. But she is not a loving mother, wife, friend, or queen to them. Just as Daemond, she has difficulty expressing her emotions in a healthy manner.

@irondragonmaiden

8 ай бұрын

I think the other issue with Alicent is that the show so desperately wants to portray her as a victim when she does screwed up things like forcing Rhaenyra to do the red walk, all but implying Laenor is a predator with that squires crack (see how squires are usually very young), or just protecting axe crazy people like Larys and Cole.

Gotta love the efficiency on nailing all of the moral compasses of these characters in under an hour, great work Glesus!

That 9/11 joke got me

You say that the family mourns that one guard Daemon killed... but that guard's body is currently thought to be Laenors. If anything their family might be suspected of the murder, since you know, the father disappeared.

you two have such great chemistry i was in stitches multiple times

glimboid my beloved!

Hell yeah been looking forward to these streams/videos

Potentially the best collab I’ve ever seen on any topic