What about Islam? Muslims affirm that Jesus is the Messiah (as stated in the Quran), but do not consider Jesus divine.

''John" Hus 💀💀💀💀💀💀

Hussitism is not a heresy. Jesus said to DRINK. So we MUST DRINK!

@TheExplainer22

Ай бұрын

Haha. It is a heresy. But then, you gotta drink 🍷

@budicaesar1213

Ай бұрын

@@TheExplainer22 It's heresy when you follow God's specific commandment, got it.

How is iconoclasm a heresy??? Veneration of icons is not accepted by any Christian, but Iconoclasm seeks to destroy icons

@TheExplainer22

Ай бұрын

It is a heresy. If you briefly read about the events about the 8th and 9th centuries, sure well you will find out about it. I think well enough that it really got on the nerves of the Eastern Church

@Conservative_East

Ай бұрын

@@TheExplainer22 Please elaborate explain this to us. Icons or images is not acceptable, it is written in the Bible. What iconoclasm did to be a heresy on their time? except the icon thing.

@TheExplainer22

Ай бұрын

@@Conservative_East they denied the essential nature (thereby) of Christ. The image of Christ.

@D4rkmatter

Ай бұрын

@@TheExplainer22 I really doubt that, because one dont want to have images of Christ (ignoring the fact that we dont know how He looked like), automatically denies His essence.

@user-mk3zm6fe4s

Ай бұрын

It is not forbidden to venerate icons ans images ,if you don't worship them as gods. So by saying that veneration and worship is the same thing ,you prove you don't know what worship is

6:43 this is a picture of Saint Augustine, not Peter Abelard

@TheExplainer22

15 күн бұрын

Thomas Aquinas rather. That was a mistake from me 🙏

@d0ga012

15 күн бұрын

@@TheExplainer22 true! I get them mixed up all the time lmao

Not pretend to offend but how Iconoclasy is heretic? Because bow down to images is clearly bad in the Bible: "You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments." Ex. 20:4-6. "Do not make any gods to be alongside me; do not make for yourselves gods of silver or gods of gold." Ex. 20: 23. "Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the Lord your God." Lev. 26:1 “You shall not make for yourself an image in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. 9 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 10 but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments. " Det. 5: 8-10 "He did what was right in the eyes of the Lord, just as his father David had done. 4 He removed the high places, smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles. He broke into pieces the bronze snake Moses had made, for up to that time the Israelites had been burning incense to it. (It was called Nehushtan.)" 2 Kings 18 : 3 - 4. "The idols of the nations are silver and gold, made by human hands. They have mouths, but cannot speak, eyes, but cannot see. They have ears, but cannot hear, nor is there breath in their mouths. Those who make them will be like them, and so will all who trust in them." Psalm 135: 15 - 18. "With whom, then, will you compare God? To what image will you liken him?" Is. 40:18. "I will destroy your idols and your sacred stones from among you; you will no longer bow down to the work of your hands." Mic. 5:13.

@CzarLazar1389

Ай бұрын

Did God contradict Himself when He commanded the construction of the Ark of the Covenant, which had on it GRAVEN IMAGES of cherubim and was bowed down to by Moses and Joshua? What about Solomon's temple, which was adorned with images and icons? What about that synagogue recently unearthed from B.C times which also has various biblical events depicted? Indeed, iconoclasm is a heresy.

@D4rkmatter

Ай бұрын

@@CzarLazar1389 I love how all that iconodules assume that those figures (which were angels, not saints nor virgins or whatever) were subjects of worshipping and not decoration lmao. The synagogue didnt have images in the principal hall, so... And btw, do you really think that in the temple of Solomon, people did bow down to those angels while being God Himself there (remember, He is jealous in that aspect)? What about Nehushtan?, God commanded it (like the Cherubim of Ark) and still was destroyed when people bowed down to it lmao. Theres literally zero support for iconoduly in the Bible, while for iconoclasm, there are the verses. Iconoduly is heresy.

@tree-meister1127

Ай бұрын

Do you think the second council of Nicea had never read those verses and that you have a deeper understanding of scripture than they did?

@D4rkmatter

Ай бұрын

​​@@tree-meister1127 Yeah, let's gonna ignore the iconoclastic theologians who were (and those we have currently) alive at that time, and forget that one can still study theology.

@user-k4d-e59mo28oc

22 күн бұрын

@@D4rkmatter At the end of the day, it was neo-Roman Pagans --- I mean the Roman Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox Church --- that called the shots.

Gnosticism got condemn in 1 John too

monophysitism is not a heresy

@TheExplainer22

Ай бұрын

It is.

@austintran8919

Ай бұрын

Miaphysitism isn't mono is

@global1007

Ай бұрын

Jesus is fully human and fully man. It is what the Scripture actually teaches.