We need more videos like this, super useful and backed up by real data and examples. Keep going Harry's garage, I hope more social media producers can project the same honesty and solid advice. Maybe more people will start to wake up to the reality of this situation.

@julianevans9548

Жыл бұрын

I've no particular problem with electric cars (there are clearly pros and cons, environmentally), but I do have a problem with the way they're being introduced in the UK: less wealthy people are being shafted. Not only are they going to have to pay more for their vehicles, but those with less money are less likely to have driveways where you can charge your car. So, they pay more for charging, plus they have to spend an hour or more a week charging their car. Do you have that free time? Forcing us into electric cars is only reasonable if the government invests so that there are chargers on the street outside flats so that these people can charge their car overnight too. But hey, that's capitalism: the wealthy will be fine and that's all that matters. Regular people can just lose even more of their time - as if we don’t spend enough time working. Plus, if you buy a new car every - let's say - 50,000 miles, you're not being environmentally friendly, no matter how it is powered. The biggest problem - as with all consumption - is buying new things. I know it's an alien concept to many - because we’re incessantly told that this is not the case - but the government actually exists to serve us, not to tell us what to do.

@MrAnderson321

Жыл бұрын

@@julianevans9548 Totally agree with that.

@rayw9067

Жыл бұрын

@@julianevans9548 very well said. Why don’t the car makers work on kits to convert cars we have now before forcing us to purchase new ones, I don’t particularly like the “life span” of the battery either might be fine where I am in a stable environment but what about cold places? Extreme heat? My last car I bought new in 2007 and traded it on a family car in 2021 and it had done 220,000kms and I only had to put a radiator and front struts in it other then serving. I particularly like how they’re forcing us into it but not one of the governments is standing up and asking any questions about how are the materials being obtained. EVs are becoming as you said a wealthy persons deal.

@mikeroz6549

Жыл бұрын

No one's forcing me. If you feel pressured then I'm sorry but more fool you. A car is a big investment for anyone. I've never ever bought a "new to me" car without doing my homework and being what I would call an intelligent customer. Why anyone would not take a keen interest beforehand beats me. 🤔No car salesman sells me a car he thinks I should buy. In fact I've pulled salesmen up on factually incorrect information in the past. I couldn't agree more with Harry on this. There should be more videos like this educating the population. As for the diesel BMW 3 series; 320d all day long for me. Keep it simple, keep the weight down and resist the 4wd option, less unsprung weight on the front axle and you don't really need it anyway.

@haricsl

Жыл бұрын

@@mikeroz6549 with the ulez changes and widening of where it applies, that is forcing me to change my particularly fine (but old) diesel to avoid incurring fines, so I am being forced to change (perhaps not to electric but it doesn’t make you think if I have to make a change then shall I make the jump to electric now given the direction of travel and to avoid having to change my “new” diesel car again should the ulez requirements change )

The best summary of the challenges we all face with electrification, neatly wrapped up in 15 minutes. Thanks Harry

@rafchurchlawford4469

Жыл бұрын

When something cannot be questioned you know the masses will suffer but NOT the elites. Welcome to the 2020's

@ts6070

Жыл бұрын

In a nutshell please please Stop buying expensive electric ⚡️ car made with dirty energy instead just keep your current car 🚙 on the road with correct and reasonable maintenance in this process you are also supporting your local businesses and global environment.

@johnsmith1474

Жыл бұрын

Worthless pander.

@mattks1001

Жыл бұрын

@@ts6070 I think the problem is the current big debate is gas vs electric. The conversation should change to drive what one has. Going out and buying a brand new gas or electric car every few years isn’t good for the environment and not good for one’s wallet.

Watching a Harrys Garage video is like spending an evening with Grandad- absolute comfort. 😊 But he’s not racist, doesn’t read the Daily Mail and knows what he’s talking about.

I've had 13 years in the motor industry (94- 07) having worked for Mercedes, Fiat and Toyota (had to work on residual values for the first ever Prius...which was 'interesting'!) ; am familiar with the regulatory (and volume) pressures on manufacturers and the SMMT stats - and this video is spot on, Harry. The only thing not mentioned is synthetic fuels which we know are way too expensive at the moment, but if you have any information about further developments (as well carrying on updates about solid state batteries) that would be interesting too. After a recent tour of Gaydon, Aston Martin claim to be the most efficient auto maker on the planet - because of how long their cars have lasted since Aston Martin existed with I think only 5% having gone to the scrap yard - which backs up your point about the BMW M3 or similar. Longevity surely needs to be part of the solution. If synthetic fuels can be part of the solution - then everyone can hold on to their cars for longer - and surely - that is part of the answer? The challenge is we have psychologically got 'used' to upgrading - due partly to built in obsolescence in eg white goods and the constant marketing barrage to upgrade your phone; iPad; laptop; telly etc. Gone are our parents' days where they used to darn socks to keep them lasting longer. It has (we have) become a 'throwaway' society, and then we look behind us and wonder why we have such issues to resolve. Congrats on the measures you have taken, and are taking, regarding sustainability. The calm, balanced, mixture of sensible solutions approach seems way more sensible than the somewhat polarised; binary 'you must buy electric' approach, which encourages people to go into one of two (pro or anti EV) camps, rather than realising that a blend is most likely best. Ironic about lithium prices, but we'll leave that there. Thank you for an interesting piece based on facts. Next thing - speak to your MP, Harry, and get this information up there and out there! ;)

@peterthomas8652

Жыл бұрын

Harry had a video about synthetic fuels he uses it for his older cars

@stokedtopoke8956

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your interesting comment, I appreciate you taking the time to write it here.

@tonyadeney1245

7 ай бұрын

agree - electric owner - experience good and bad ....

Couldn’t agree more. Drive less. Buying or leasing new cars every 3 years is horrendous for the environment when you look at the CO2 output of manufacturing a new vehicle.

@richardcarter1000

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I'll keep my classics and a late diesel Range Range. EVs need to move on a generation or two. We should be allowed freedom of choice anyway. When EVs are better. People will buy them. I hate the whole big state rules, typical of the EU. Got knows why we're still following them.

@arvidjohansson3120

Жыл бұрын

Could you please provide me with some information on why this would be factually right. Depending on the source a car will generate between 10-15 percent of the life time CO2 being built. The rest will be during operation. That means only a small reduction in fuel consumption will offset the production emissions. Furthermore, any new car added to a system will end up replacing a old car in the bottom of the car hierarchy. So when someone buys a new 95 gram CO2 car a 280 gram car will most likely end up at the scrapyard.

@ApexCypher_

Жыл бұрын

@@arvidjohansson3120 Google the report Volvo released comparing electric and ICE cars. The electric car doesn’t become green till after 70,000 miles compared to petrol.

@mohnnadmercedes8246

Жыл бұрын

Its combined with greedy EU politicians + overlay exaggerated climate change + trying to hide EV dirty impact on environment. EV definitely has way more CO2 than hybrid. EV are like electronics you have to replace battery or buy new car every 3-5 years because lithium battery can deteriorate much quicker than combustion engines. And EV manufacturing process is way more polluting

@MrDead1975

Жыл бұрын

why, so they all get crushed after 3 years or filter through the used market removing ICE cars from the road eventually?

Just do the opposite of what the politicians & MSM say…& u won’t go far wrong 👍

@steve20664

Жыл бұрын

Get a big V8👍😎

@douglasb.5601

Жыл бұрын

Now that's a very smart comment! 👍🏻😎 Lots of Ev's will be on the SH market soon as their owners fell for the 'Safe & Effective' sales pitch! 😕

I'm an huge EV advocate (I own a TM3 P) and you're absolutely right about the efficiency. It's almost more important than range. We NEED efficient EVs with sleek aeordynamics, good power electronics (SiC based for better efficiency like Tesla) and very efficient powertrains. This SUV trend must stop with EVs. We need estates and saloons. These cars NEEDs the smallest frontal area possible. The BMW iX, Tesla X, Hummer EV or Rivian R1T, these 3 tons EVs are the exact things to avoid.

Great video. A lot of sense spoken by Harry. Our politicians are letting us down so badly by pursuing headlines, yet without putting any thought to the real impact of what they are going and the changes they are forcing on us.

Totally agree with your point regarding insulation of new build homes, much cheaper to do it at the time of build rather than retrofitted later. Same goes for solar and storage batteries.

@johnsmith1474

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that nice.

@richardbristow1500

Жыл бұрын

Suggest you read the 2022 edition of building regulations part L

@stuartbrown9439

Жыл бұрын

New build homes are well insulated - but carbon reduction is urgent, and the vast majority of the homes that will exist in 2050 already exist today, so new build is only a small part of the problem. And if you adopt Scandinavian insulation levels in the UK you end up with overheating in summer, which is counter productive because people then start buying air-conditioners...

@jerehada

Жыл бұрын

@@stuartbrown9439 why would you overheat if you keep the heat out? Insulation works both ways.

@wizardmix

Жыл бұрын

@@jerehada Took the words out of my head! Doors and windows open with air circulation in the evening, doors and windows closed during the hottest hours of the day, rinse repeat. If the night become too hot, then cool off with A/C. It's a big sadness I have that if only homes where just a bit more thought out in positioning and design perhaps we'd all get on with far less?

The voice of reason! Thank you Harry!! A question.....those December sales......are they really sales, or are they registrations? If they are sales, how are manufacturers suddenly able to get the public to buy in the last month of the year, but struggle for the other 11? It sounds like it would actually be cheaper for a manufacturer to buy their own cars to get the sales figures up, than pay the massive EU fines!!!

@tckcumming

Жыл бұрын

I was wondering the same thing. Who is buying these "December" vehicles?

@rl3898

Жыл бұрын

My guess would be a large discounted fleet sale to certain fleet customers. Look at the number of used low mileage BMW selling outlets there are on every street corner.

@TheDavidsims

Жыл бұрын

@@tckcumming An example: Tesla were offering a few grand off and 6000m of free supercharging on a Y - if you were thinking of buying a good deal

@ajayadhiya2010

Жыл бұрын

Well said..

@PorscheRacer14

Жыл бұрын

@@tckcumming Fleet sales, lease trade ups, and employee lot/test vehicles for dealerships. At least that's how it was 15 years ago at the dealership I worked at. Dealerships still had to make quotas then so they'd get the special allotment prices and just general allotment of special vehicles such as Corvette Z06, Cadillac STS, etc.

I love driving and maintaining older cars from the 80's and 90's for daily use. The trick is to buy the best example you can find, and maintain it. Once sorted - very economical to run...and you've got something a bit special that brings a smile to your and others faces.

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

Except for the occasions when you'll drive into a Clean Air Charging zone......then you may not feel like smiling.

@jemimallah2591

Жыл бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh yep. because briefly inconveniencing the very small percentage of people on the road who drive a car from before 2005 is going to make ALL the difference to pollution levels

@stokedtopoke8956

Жыл бұрын

This is true. A classic car, or a car that is a throwback still doing its thing, will always bring a smile to our faces. Keep up the good work (literally).

Thank goodness,someone with real authority has spoken up about this ridiculous situation. Long journeys=Diesel/Petrol Short journeys=Non I/C power. Respect to you Harry's Garage.

I absolutely adore your road trip videos - but this is one of the best videos you’ve done and you hit the nail on the head in so many areas. Bravo

Completely agree. It would be amazing if you got a tax write-off for keeping a car longer at the end of finance or motor plan versus buying a new one😂

@WiseGuy02

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry, you vill own nuzing and you vill be happy

@Butlins14

Жыл бұрын

@@WiseGuy02 you will own a zonda 760 and you will be happy

@MrBurni1

Жыл бұрын

Dream on 😂

Well done for speaking out Harry. Appreciate it.

People think these EV's are environmentally friendly they need to learn how they are made, especially the battery's. Nice video Harry.

Great video and I feel your rant. I've found my head in my hands on this very topic many times. That said, ANOTHER aspect of this issue is the labor force used to mine the materials for all these batteries. A very dark business that the media and our governments are not speaking of. Thanks for sharing this topic. Best -

@richhr89

Жыл бұрын

Congolese Cobalt mining is a shameful reality, but it's worth pointing out 2 points: -Not all EV batteries use Cobalt (standard range Tesla model 3 and Y have none and they are roughly 1/2 of total Tesla production). -The quantity of cobalt used in a 500kg luxury EV battery pack is less than 25 kg and it is 100% recyclable at end of life.

@otm646

Жыл бұрын

@@richhr89 your recyclability numbers are incorrect, not to mention that we are at the very front end of the EV battery lifecycle. Once these cells are no longer fit for automotive use they don't go into the junkyard. They move into applications where their power density are far less critical like grid tied storage. We shouldn't even be considering activity recycling these cells today when they've got another 10 or 15 year life ahead of them.

@tavshedfjols

Жыл бұрын

Every part of capitalism is a dark business

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

Edward, if you do a bit of research, you'd quickly discover that the largest users of mined minerals on the planet are the oil industry......

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

@@otm646 Of which good examples might be the huge sports stadium in Utrecht in Holland, powered by 200 old Nissan Leaf batteries, charged via solar. Or the wind farm in Wales, which uses a considerable number of older BMW i3 batteries for energy storage..... As you rightly state, not all older EV batteries will need to be recycled. They may no longer be capable of use in a vehicle, but are more than adequate for energy storage.....

Cobalt and lithium costs are rising for sure. I've got a 10 year old DS3 and don't do much mileage currently. It's still fine, no rust and the THP155 still has a nice buzz. Am I being more environmentally friendly by keeping my old car for longer? I can't consider an EV, because I don't want to spend £25K+ for a crap EV, let alone £40k+ for a semi-decent one.

@julianevans9548

Жыл бұрын

By far the most EF thing to do is not to buy a new car.

@giuistefanjr72

Жыл бұрын

No but you can buy a top hybrid which will still be on the streets for a long time.

@robertbalu8001

Жыл бұрын

@@giuistefanjr72 doesn't have to be even new ~2-3year and if it's a taxi/uber/lyft (battery continuosly "regened") even 5+

@Vanilla.coke1234

Жыл бұрын

The most environmentally friendly thing, after not driving at all, is to stick it out with the car you have (as long as it has reasonable fuel economy) or buy a used hybrid if your existing car doesn't do what you need it to.

@freddiejones4598

Жыл бұрын

Volvo calculated that full electric is only better for the environment after the vehicle has 150k miles

How refreshing to watch a comprehensive straight forward video about EV cars. Thank you 🙂

Well done for your theses. From an owner of a 17 year old X5 (best car I've ever had) Peter J.

Harry, you got that spot on!👏 This is probably the most honest review of the situation we’re in with EVs at this moment in time in the UK. We’re being ‘persuaded’ to buy EVs when the infrastructure just isn’t there to cope with it in the UK. (Ill be sticking with hybrid and diesels for the time being.)

@Matty_D

Жыл бұрын

'Forced'?? You could buy a diesel tomorrow and run it for years to come you drama queen

@mbal4052

Жыл бұрын

@@Matty_D my mate went to the dealer to buy a diesel, they held a gun to his head and forced him to buy an EV

@Fireballsocal

Жыл бұрын

@@mbal4052 My brothers cousin tried buying a 4 cylinder gas saver and was locked in a room with Miley Cyrus turned up to 11. Forced him to sign for the EV and the extended warranty.

@foxxster3565

Жыл бұрын

@@Matty_D and how much would it cost to drive into londons ulez … and do you really think there will not be more punitive measures against ice vehicles around the world.

@deanchur

Жыл бұрын

@@Fireballsocal My uncle's friend's cousin's wife went to buy a 1L 3cyl, she was forced to watch TikTok videos until she signed for an EV. Poor lady didn't even last a minute.

If everyone moves to EV, the good news for us petrol heads is that there won’t be many cars on the road, and especially motorways - the infrastructure isn’t in place to charge them all, nobody will do long journeys!!!

@marvintpandroid2213

Жыл бұрын

Why do long journeys in a car?

@BigBadLoneWolf

Жыл бұрын

Wont be much traffic on the twisty country roads for us Bikers as well. The electric cars will stay in the towns, where the rapid chargers are

@silentracer911

Жыл бұрын

There will always be vehicles on the road, it’s just which vehicles people use are the problem… Harry, do you use a fuel stabilizer in your hybrids fuel? I don’t know how often you gas it up, but I heard of people in the US having problems with gas going bad

@jctothel

Жыл бұрын

Wrong.

@oneeleven9832

Жыл бұрын

@@marvintpandroid2213 do you live in Oxford 😂…sorry couldn’t resist that.

Thank you SO MUCH! My only problem was that I could not put a “double thumbs up”!Politicians need to wake up. I noticed that in the last 2-3 weeks a lot of car manufacturers have come out of the woodwork to say that 100% EV won’t work (it only took Toyota to say it first).

Substantially valid points raised Harry. I have a 7yr old 1.6L turbo diesel with a 60L tank that delivers 1300kms at an average speed of 100kmph country driving and it takes mere minutes to refuel. I've travelled 72k since new and it's greatest expense was 4 new tyres. An electric powered equivalent sized vehicle delivers [allegedly] 400-430kms distance and takes a month of Sundays to recharge x 3 times over the equivalent distance of my diesel car. I have no inclination to buy an electric car at today's inflated vehicle prices with sub-standard distance between recharging, on the basis of saving incomprehensible fleet penalties imposed by governments on car manufacturers. Please continue these consumer informative videos Harry. It's a 👍 from me😎👍🇦🇺

Really enjoyed this style of video Harry, I think it compliments your regular content very well, keep them coming

Agree, bought a used Skoda Superb Diesel 7 years ago with then 30k miles. It's now covered close to 170k miles, is dead cheap in maintenance and running costs, it drives perfectly fine and does all I need from my daily workhorse at an average of 55mpg. I do have solar panels on the roof, so i could easily provide the electricity for an EV, I just don't see any reason to get rid of a perfectly fine car.

@markwilliams5654

Жыл бұрын

And will stink and pollute everyone but why would you care if you get 55mog what a joke

@johnsmith1474

Жыл бұрын

Solar panels on a roof don't "easily provide the electricity for an EV." Where do you get that idea?

@MOSSFEEN

Жыл бұрын

WELL SAID

@eiwiss

Жыл бұрын

​@@johnsmith1474 might be a misunderstanding, but I meant that I have solar panels on the roof of my house. I monitor how much they produce each day and how much I'm actually using. Right now, I'm selling the excess, but it would be easily sufficient to charge and run an EV for my daily use.

@Limpi43

Жыл бұрын

@@eiwiss "I do have solar panels on the roof, so i could easily provide the electricity for an EV" How? Do you have solar batteries? Or work on night shifts?

Can’t argue with any of that Harry. Very well put. I don’t quite understand the huge push to EVs either, particularly when the U.K. charging network was and remains absolute landfill.

@kevinashurst634

Жыл бұрын

You clearly havent used it recently have you? Its actually pretty good.

I really hope this series gets a high number of views as it’s super important we get unbiased information on the “push” to electric cars and as someone who currently considering changing my perfectly fine diesel (due to the ulez expansion) this video was extremely informative, thank you. I look forward to watching the next one in this series.

@USUG0

Жыл бұрын

it is a sign of demand for EVs, that gets revealed the moment prices become more affordable. People are not buying EVs just because there is nothing else in the showroom

@davidm5842

Жыл бұрын

I'm in the fortunate position of being able to avoid going into any ULEZ zones, and thus not spending within them. One can only hope that enough people in my position do so, and the businesses that lose out campaign for the removal of the ULEZ zones.

@kevinburke6743

Жыл бұрын

ULEZ is one thing but the main benefit of electric cars do not take up any space on road! That is why you don't have to pay the congestion charge! What when we are nearly all electric? Will there be a No Emission Zone? Will the congestion zone be abolished?

@vipul_singh

Жыл бұрын

@@USUG0 People are buying EVs because they are cheaper to run than paying for fuel and 'I smoked that Lambo, bro!' factor with some EV.

I live outside Charlotte North Carolina. A few weeks back we had a run of very very cold weather (at or below 0 degrees F). The grid required rolling blackouts to keep from losing electricity to a wider extent. How on earth does the government think the grid could handle a significant percentage of the population having electric vehicles. The infrastructure is nowhere near ready to handle even 5% of the population having electric vehicles.

That was brilliant, Harry! The passion, the info and the felling it was all true is exactly what we need. Well done!

Great video as always. I really enjoy your articulate, intelligent and thoughtful videos. Almost as much as the mad road tests and trips!

I just love it when someone actually talks a bit of good old fashioned common sense, thanks Harry.

Very insightful, Harry, thank you. My daily driver is 30 years old this year and still going very strong with over 280,000 miles on the clock and I will be keeping it for a few more years.

@MrMayabeach

Жыл бұрын

Fuel cars are not profiting for companies now anymore as they would last longer. Buying expensive electric and replacing them every few years is more profitable. It's not all about CC.

@ln5747

Жыл бұрын

Honda or Toyota?

@ufx808

Жыл бұрын

@@ln5747 Toyota. 🚙

@richhr89

Жыл бұрын

@@MrMayabeach false, I'm afraid. Most manufacturers struggle to build EVs profitably. Only Tesla make good profit margins on them. Also, longevity is looking to be better on modern EVs than modern ICE vehicles.

@foxxster3565

Жыл бұрын

@@richhr89 really, please tell us how long those batteries last. The range of evs is laughable with new batteries, uselessly pathetic after 10, 20% degradation

1. The amount of horrific cobalt mines with children hand mining is sickening to support this new electric craze. 2. The earth warms up and cools down it’s normal and has seen fluctuations over the last 100,000 years. We are but a spec in history. 3. There infrastructure is no where near and a much greater monopoly can be used in electric grid facilities. Thanks for reading

@SDK2006b

Жыл бұрын

1: This is a myth. Lithium is used in many things, not just EV's. e.g. the phone, laptop, and any other battery powered device you've been using since 30+ years. Also the EV sector is actively moving away from using cobalt in batteries.e.g. The Tesla SR+ now using LFP batteries which are Cobalt free. 2: Yep we get it. What about removing tail pipe pollution away from the streets ! 3: Yes again correct. The EV charging infrastructure is probably similar to what re-fueling stations looked like in the early 1900's - few and far between. Change takes time !

All valid points and I totally agree that buying used is the best way to protect the environment. Just want to add: the dirtiness of EV depends on the power mix of that area, but also heavily, heavily depends on when do you charge the car. In the VW ID. series there is a mode called "charge to departure time". I set it to 6am. So the car usually starts charging after 2am which is when wind energy is contributing heavily into the grid and no enough people are using them. UK has an abundance of off-shore wind farms and a lot more planned. Charge you car after midnight and you can dramatically reduce the dirtiness.

You've just spoken more sense than any politician can understand.

Very informative, Harry. Thank you. This kind of proper look behind what really drives the sales numbers just doesn't get reported in the mainstream media!

People with common sense will always struggle to understand government decisions.

@MattyEngland

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Unfortunately for us, the vast majority of the population have an IQ under 80, and subcontract their critical thinking to the WEF and the BBC.

@drleftie

Жыл бұрын

Politicians make poor decisions because they know nothing about their brief. For example the current Health Secretary trained as a solicitor. The Shadow Health Secretary has a degree in History.

@15bit62

Жыл бұрын

Common sense isn't always as sensible as it seems though. If we followed "common sense" we'd have made no scientific progress throughout history and we'd still be living in mud huts. But government decisions do certainly often lack any form of sense at all.

A very clear and well-told story. Also with a factual backing. Completely agree. I will also never forget that you told us , I believe three years ago, that the power plants used to generate electricity to charge EVs also emit a lot of CO2 into the air.

Excellent video Harry - thank you for sharing your carefully considered experiences with EVs and your forecast for what might transpire between now and 2030. The whole issue of EV sales, EV infrastructure, etc. is confusing and those of us who buy our own vehicles lack the confidence to make a huge investment into what could end up as the automotive industry's version of Betamax. You have left me in a lot more confident mood to continue to drive my fully paid for, reliable and very comfortable eight year old diesel Mercedes rather than re-enter the car buying market unnecessarily over the next few years.

@zakelwe

Жыл бұрын

Harry nailed it As well as " the system" trying to get us to buy a new electric car every 3 years we have phone manufacturers trying to get us to buy a new phone every year. Which a bit more lithium. I'd like to see Harry on Hydrogen. Even the name sounds funky !

@ccaz1001

Жыл бұрын

I too drive a diesel Mercedes. I’ll be keeping it for a while yet!

@stokedtopoke8956

Жыл бұрын

This video has helped me too, to decide to continue with the economical mercedes. We have to swap our 2020 model in for a SUV as mobility for one of us prevents getting into a low estate vehicle, but this video, and indeed your comment, assures us we should just get a used Mercedes that is higher off the ground, and carry on as happily as ever. We were very tempted by the electric SUVs at Brooklands, but maybe we will wait for solid state batteries or whatever emerges. We are getting a big betamax vibe from the industry as a whole. We are excited to see what Mercedes will be able to deliver in the coming years, they are launching hybrid, wall chargeable, petrol cars at the moment. Or perhaps they are launching plans, as you can't get one, you can only order it.

We need to face the reality that taxpayers, including low income earners, have effectively been forced to subsidise luxury EVs. All under the guise of ideological fanaticism. It's actually quite insidious and disgusting when you stop to think about it.

Interested in your rant about all new industrial buildings having solar panels, as a planning requirement. I live next door to one of the largest distribution parks in Europe, not one building has a single solar panel on the roof. Ironically, 100’s of acres of good agricultural land, next door, has been taken out of production to build a solar farm to power the distribution park - MADNESS!

@edc1569

Жыл бұрын

it is madness, and its insane government policy thats causing it

@roberthiggins6401

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely bonkers! Isn't it?

@DarkLordButterfly

Жыл бұрын

I think there's two common reasons: 1. Land based solar is super cheap to install. You don't need as much equipment, can mount it easily and more importantly, remove it quickly too if you need to 2. Warehouses are built cheaply. Warehouses are large tin cans without much structural strength on the roof. Therefore, adding panels to them would mean a lot of reinforcement and extra cost that you just don't need to do with a field. It's one of those problems that will only really change with legislation because no landlord is going to voluntarily spend more cash to build an over-engineered warehouse. I think the best middle ground are solar car ports, which can be easily constructed above car parks so a bit of a happy medium. Protects the cars during summer, easy to install free standing but also still reduces the energy bills of the site owner. Bentley is a great example of just how much power these can produce.

Absolutely brilliant Harry (as always!). Your videos are always an enjoyable and informative watch - honest opinions that everyone can understand and appreciate. Keep up the great work - we could do with you running the country at the moment!

Good honest, well thought out and well researched content; it's why I love Harry's videos.

Excellent rant Harry- 100% with what you are saying….It must be better for the planet to keep hold of cars longer rather than ‘churning’ them…..excellent content as ever, please keep it coming!

Nailed it again Harry, we could all see the flaws in rushing EV's to market with the charging network still lagging way behind. We are sticking with our petrol 1.4 Audi A1 bopping about returning 48 mpg! Very interesting video again 👍

@richhr89

Жыл бұрын

I always loved the A2, personally🙂 Just worth considering, if you feel like using this: 48mpg of petrol means using 56.44kwh of fossil energy to drive 100km. My 492bhp Tesla model 3 has averaged 18.2 kWh per 100km of grid electricity (I am not a particularly economical driver🙄) Your A1 uses over 3 times the energy of my 1.8 tonne, sub 4s to 60mph saloon. Both figures are at the car so there is the petrol extraction, refinement and transport to add (equivalent to around 20% more on top) and small charging and distribution losses for the battery car. All calculable and even with the huge production footprint of any car (40% more again for the EV) there is really no comparison, even in the UK. Carbon emissions per kWh and per litre of fuel are easily available - that of car production more difficult to find, but also available if you want to make the calculation for yourself. Sadly Harry hasn't done his sums on lifetime carbon emissions (I have, and got rid of my 270,000 mile Volvo as soon as I could afterwards). He does make great points about on street charging and rapid charger infrastructure for travelling in the UK, though.

@richhr89

Жыл бұрын

@@abcxyz2927 all true, but 90% + of miles driven in EVs is slow charged over night on off peak electricity....

@richhr89

Жыл бұрын

@@abcxyz2927 I agree that home or on street charging availability is critical. Annoyingly, this doesn't require upgrading the grid, but it does need plug availability. Around town? Even just charging slowly at home I have a real 300 mile range. We've covered 65,000 miles with our 2 EVs over less than 3 years mostly charging from a single 32Amp plug. Around 5,000 miles of that from rapid chargers on holiday road trips. We're not a low mileage family...

@richhr89

Жыл бұрын

@@abcxyz2927 there's something strange about KZread comments

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

@@abcxyz2927 You do realise that the cost of public charging can be reduced by subscribing to the charge network you anticipate using. Depending on the network, Subscribing can bring discounts of up to 50%. Not many people - journalists in particular - seem to know that........ Of course non-subscribers will pay full price.....

We desperately need someone like Harry who is passionate and has a firm understanding these matters to direct the government to ensure tax payer's money is well spent whilst ensuring we are looking after the environment. It's incredibly frustrating to see the general public being poorly directed. Keep up the good fight Harry.

Well said and understood. Did not stop me from selling my 395 hp truck and buying my Mini EV.

There's also the problem of the electricity prices going up

@Malthus

Жыл бұрын

The elephant in the room here being why those prices are going up so fast here in the EU. If you can believe it, the price for energy in the EU market is indexed on German Gas (which is most expensive and particularly now with the Nordstream pipeline sabotage). Italy and Spain got out of this stupid EU system earlier but not us here in France...and our businesses are now paying the price for this madness.

@Berry-fr5wj

Жыл бұрын

The plebs will not be able to own a private car in the future once the ice is no more

@itechtalk03

Жыл бұрын

@@Berry-fr5wjlook no further than hydrogen. The next big thing in around 5-10 years time. See you then!!

@Berry-fr5wj

Жыл бұрын

@@itechtalk03 Hydrogen it is then

@johnodonoghue651

Жыл бұрын

@@itechtalk03 where do you get the hydrogen from?

During a recent cold snap in the US, the charging Network did not work, leaving people stranded in their cars to die in the freezing cold. The Chargers simply would not charge in the cold.

@edc1569

Жыл бұрын

Surprised by this as stuck petrol vehicles are a real hazard in snow fall, people die all the time from carbon monoxide poisoning. A stuck EV can run the cabin heater for hours, but if you just go yolo it to a charger with 0% battery left and then get stuck there well you’re not making very sensible life choices.

@stevemawer848

Жыл бұрын

@@edc1569 I'd like to see the number of people who "die all the time from carbon monoxide poisoning".

Excellent video, Harry. Well researched - more of these please. It also asked tough questions, such as the crazy tax benefits of these vehicles.

The government need Harry as a consultant; he talks a lot of sense.

I’m eight years and 80,000 miles into my BMW 320d, and plan to at least double those numbers before I consider a replacement. It’s also finance-free, and I have little desire to be burdened with another monthly PCP anytime soon. So - a vote for sunk build costs and emissions from me; we really need to extend our national fleet life first and foremost, as you suggest.

@tonyedgecombe6631

Жыл бұрын

The reality is even if you part exchanged your car for a new EV the old one wouldn't end up on the scrap heap. Someone else will take it on and that will continue until it is no longer financially viable. Whether a car has one owner or two over its lifetime makes little difference to its environmental impact. It's still better for you financially though as the depreciation on an eight year old car is much smaller than a new one.

@christianpratt

Жыл бұрын

@@tonyedgecombe6631 Yes indeed. Agree with all of those points. Not sure my car with count for much on a trade-in, mind. Another reason to keep it.

Electricity is not the future for the car industry.

@SDK2006b

Жыл бұрын

What type of 'fuel' are you thinking?

What you say about keeping what you have in the way of a car and driving less is the most common sense I’ve heard for a long long time.

Excellent Harry. Completely agree with your points and logic

If it were not for government mandates , subsidies and threats of massive fines , EV's and renewables would be economically unviable.

I'd love to hear your take on Toyota's hydrogen engine.

@markbadhamthornhill8152

Жыл бұрын

97% of hydrogen in this country is from fossil fuel, and hydrogen is as inefficient as petrol.

@lptomtom

Жыл бұрын

AKA the reason why Toyota's CEO is very critical of EVs

@JohnFromAccounting

Жыл бұрын

I'll believe it when it's in a production car, but I hope it succeeds.

@mikafiltenborg7572

Жыл бұрын

Toyota =Kodak Toyota bankrupt before 2030

I think you pretty much nailed it. The greenest solution would be to reduce overall passenger vehicle miles and simultaneously incentivise prolonged car ownership and most of all lighter new vehicles.

Love the pun Harry! ‘Insulation on buildings is LAGGING behind” 😂

Absolutely hit the nail on the head on finance agreements with balloon’s forcing the churn and a new habbit of buying cars more often than is actually needed.

I think some of the "pressure" to replace your car has to do with when the warranty runs out...especially as cars become more and more complex and expensive......nobody wants to be stuck with the repairs

@officialchill1706

Жыл бұрын

SavageGeese' S class and EQS videos really drive this point. You'd have to be bonkers to buy one of those after warranty expires due to the insane amount of electronics. They're practically disposable

@johnsmith1474

Жыл бұрын

@@officialchill1706 - Like the lower middle class worker.

@johnwallace520

Жыл бұрын

Much cheaper to extend the warranty with the manufacturer than go and buy a new car. It cost me about £850 for the M5 for a year which is way less than the depreciation on a new one.

@the1beard

Жыл бұрын

Modern Money Pits yep

@dutoitm1

Жыл бұрын

@@officialchill1706 That has always been the case though with S classes. It's nothing new. Do you think running costs of the fabled W140 S class are cheap?

My Saab 9-5 Aero has now been with me over a decade. On 170k miles. Everyone wants to try and keep up with the Joneses but it is me who has the unique rare car on the road! That is more green than any new EV can even dream of.

I think it is a huge issue that none of the Governments, policy groups or companies are engaging in a conversation with the public on these topics. It is more like a 'fait accompli'. Ideally, the answers (and data) to all these questions should already be in the public domain.

I really appreciate these type of videos as much as the road trips, restorations and tests. More please Harry. Thanks.

Love these more industry news related videos. So interesting to get info from someone who really understands the industry and has well thought out and researched information to share. Absolutely fantastic

Well said Harry. Consumers are being 'guilted" into purchasing EV's before they're ready to live with one and before the infrastructure is in place to support them.

Great video Harry. I owned an EV for five months in Canada. I can tell you the tech is not ready for our cold winter weather.

A real eye opener for me, as someone who knows little about EV'S and was considering purchasing one in the next year. Think I'll hang on to my 5 yr old CX5 Diesel for at least another 3 years after watching this.

@stu4181

Жыл бұрын

I’m a little bit of a car nerd waste a few hours each day on KZread and autotrader watching reviews and keeping an eye on pricing I’m embarrassed to admit 😂 Unless you are getting the tax break on an EV I really don’t think they are worth their current cost, for LTD companies they reduce the cost of the thing by 40-50% due to the tax write off, prices are high to reflect this in my opinion. if you are buying as a private customer you have to pay the ridiculous high price without getting the tax saving. I think car prices are currently ridiculous generally, I earn fairly well compared to average and could easily afford a new car but instead I have a 11 year old cayman in the garage for fun and bowl about in a 10 year old 114d with 122k miles on the clock as I refuse to spend the sums of money being asked for new and used cars at the moment. I’ve gotten older and realised the money spent on cars comes from hours of my life spent at work stressed so I’m much more careful now😂 If your current car is ticking over I would keep it serviced every 12 months and just sit back a little bit and watch what happens with EV prices I think they will drop significantly over the next couple of years as tax breaks are wound back and new technology comes out, an EV with a range of 200 miles is going to become nearly worthless in 3 years if they improve ranges to 400-500 or if synthetic fuels become more available. It’s us consumers that take that personal financial hit. Sorry if that was a bit much information just my 5 cents and I have no crystal ball 🙏

@Scotty70

Жыл бұрын

@@stu4181 Nice to have a Cayman in the garage! I'm in Thailand where imported and even locally made cars are taxed heavily. My CX5 cost me the equivalent of 48k Sterling and is still tight as a drum zero faults during ownership and only travelled 76ks. I kept a UK spec 81, 928s with low miles in my garage in Australia for over 10 years with a view to importing it here as the perfect GT for my retirement, but they completely banned any importation of used cars just before I retired. Tesla just launched here last month with base model Y at 50k US plus $1500 extra for any colour other than white, which I think is a bit cheeky. I'll be taking your advice at sitting back for a while and watch how it all unfolds with EV'S here..🙏

@stu4181

Жыл бұрын

@@Scotty70 Very jealous of the warmth you have; it’s currently 9 degrees here and windy and rainy as I walk into the gym 😂 Yes it’s hard for us enthusiasts to not buy cars but certainly I feel at this current point there Is a risk of a sting if we do, especially with global recession looming prices will drop as a result of that in the very least! Great to hear from you ☺️

@Scotty70

Жыл бұрын

@@stu4181 Don't be too jealous of the warmth here, right now it's cool season in the North and gets below zero at altitude for a couple of months. Come March it's nothing but oppressive heat and humidity for the next 6 months! 😂

So happy to hear you say this Harry, I feel like I’ve been screaming at the wind all this time about how we can just keep churning out brand new electric cars (of the wrong type) and keep buying and selling them in the same way. We’re going to replace one climate catastrophe with another one. I’ll keep driving my 25 year old 996 until bio fuels come along. Great video!

@ChelsBurgett

Жыл бұрын

i hope you meant fuels 😂

@FlatCapDriver

Жыл бұрын

@@ChelsBurgett 😂 bloody autoincorrect!! 😂😂 (edited now)

@Brian-om2hh

Жыл бұрын

Forget bio fuels. There will never be enough to go on general sale. Porsche will keep most of it for themselves, to keep their Motorsport activities viable.

This video alone is THE BEST UK automotive content produced in a year to date

Thanks Harry, very good analysis well articulated......looking forward to your next video.

Thank you Harry for, yet again, providing an educated voice of reason into this, it is balanced and informative.

Well said Harry. It would be interesting to see how long people kept their cars in the 80’s or 90’s compared to now.

@Xenon0000000000001

Жыл бұрын

In the 80s, any old car in the UK was full of rust. It got better throughout the 90s, so you now still see lots of cars from the early 2000s on the road.

Excellent video. I write this as an embarrassed Taycan owner who has just taken delivery of an i4 M50. My decent weather commuter is a CE 04. I like the simplicity and performance of electric and am able to charge at home. I accept your logic re environment and value.

Well said. The other issue which no one is talking about is battery life. The battery packs last a finite period - about 5 years - but what about the lack of recycling of the precious minerals in them?

I bought a 'December car'! and got a great deal. But that was 10 years ago. Diesel, now with 180K+ miles on it, well maintained and much more environmentally sound than a new car every few years. Great video, lots of good info here.

@stevemawer848

Жыл бұрын

Of course, your 10 year old diesel is a bit of a pollutor, isn't it?

@FenderUsa

Жыл бұрын

@@stevemawer848 as is the production of the new car he'd have to buy without it

@williamoakes664

Жыл бұрын

@@stevemawer848 mines a 10yr diesel and it’s still euro 5 has a dpf and doesn’t stink or smoke….it also flys and uses very little fuel, I’ll be keeping it for a long time yet (repair and maintain is the winner for the wallet and the environment imo)

@ln5747

Жыл бұрын

@@stevemawer848 all 10 year old diesels have a DPF which reduces pollution to virtual nothing, similar to coal fired power stations. So how is it a polluter exactly? Because someone told you so?

Hi Harry. A very good video - bravely going against the trend. I’ve long felt that buying a nice car and running it for 150 / 200k miles was by far not only the most economical way to enjoy motoring but also the most environmentally friendly because it limited the number of new cars that needed to be built for me. I still feel it is the way to go - I’m in a BMW 340i which I average 43mpg easily only the motorway and I’ll run to at least 200k miles. I might look at an electric car when I replace this one - but I’d really like to know what the “all in” environmental cost of manufacturing, running and disposing of cars with different fuel sources is before I lazily follow the trend towards electric cars. As I said, a good video discussing an important topic - look forward to more - suitably interspersed with road tests and restoration projects. Take care.

@DarkLordButterfly

Жыл бұрын

It's a great question and in the past 6 months or so, we've started to have a bit more data to work it out. Polestar have been especially good at producing transparent reports into the CO2e emissions related to battery development. Very roughly (figures rounded for ease) and obviously will vary on the car, but using the Volvo / Polestar report (which tracks with other similar studies) A new ICE car XC40 is 16 tonnes of CO2e to produce A new BEV will take about 20 tonnes of CO2e to produce, with the majority of that 4 tonnes being the battery. Taking the 2022 UK Greenhouse gas conversion figures, their Well to Tank emissions factors are as follows per mile for a medium car (e.g. BMW 3 series) Diesel - 0.26kg per mile Petrol - 0.32kg per mile BEV - 0.08kg per mile Worth pointing out that well to tank is a useful metric because it takes into account emissions from the extraction of oil through to filling up your car, in the same way the EV figure takes into account emissions from gas usage in production. Therefore, over 100,000 miles: Diesel - 26 tonnes Petrol - 32 tonnes BEV - 7 tonnes (Battery Electric has the potential to be lower if charged from domestic solar, figures are for grid charging) Therefore over 100,000 miles, a new BEV vehicle will have a footprint of 7 + 20 = 27 tonnes, which puts it on equal or better footing than an *existing* petrol or diesel car. A new petrol car will have a footprint over 100,000 miles of 32+16 = 48 tonnes, so nearly double that of a new EV. My figures here are a bit back of the envelope and simplified a bit, but the lifecycle assessment polestar did is goes into far better detail comparing their own manufacturing costs, and they do model out different scenarios based on electrical grid mix too: www.polestar.com/dato-assets/11286/1600176185-20200915polestarlcafinala.pdf Data for conversion factors of vehicle emissions are here: www.gov.uk/government/collections/government-conversion-factors-for-company-reporting Also worth noting that once a battery is finished in a vehicle, it'll have a second life in a battery storage system, and then a third life potentially before it's even recycled, so they tend to last for decades. Lots of interesting shortages in the second hand battery market because the ~2015 onwards batteries are lasting longer than expected.

@northernjimbo

Жыл бұрын

@@DarkLordButterfly great post mr butterfly (interesting name) can you post a link for where the batteries will get used a second and third time? Isn’t that all conjecture really 🤷‍♂️ and what percentage of old car batteries actually get repurposed? In a ideal world 100% obviously, I’m just wondering what reality will be?

@DarkLordButterfly

Жыл бұрын

We're seeing mostly big grid level modules atm because the batteries coming through are still the older and lower quality ones from pre 2013. The 2015 onwards ones where cooling became more commonplace are lasting longer than expected, and they're the ones more suited for home storage due to higher density packs I believe

Great vid Harry and really interesting points. I especially like the industry and legislation information used to back up your thoughts and arguments.

Excellent and fully agree with you. Hopefully you can get the video played in Parliament to make them take notice.

Harry, please keep doing videos on this subject. Very interesting to hear information on this part of the industry.

Another aspect of increasing the average weight of vehicles that I haven’t heard discussed much here in the states (perhaps likewise elsewhere) is the additional damage to roads this will cause.

@bearclaw5115

Жыл бұрын

Damage to roadways from weight increases to the sixth power. That means that most vehicles do essentially no damage. It's extremely heavy trucks that do nearly all of the damage. A 4,500lb EV6 in not going to have a significantly greater impact on road wear compared to a 3,500lb ICE vehicle.

@stevemawer848

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, and in the UK "road tax" is supposed to pay for the upkeep of the roads, so how is an overweight EV going to do zero damage to the roads?

@SteveWille

Жыл бұрын

@@bearclaw5115A 6th power function has a very severe “knee”. If the relationship between vehicle weight and road damage is truly a 6th power function, the position of that “knee” as determined by other factors (road construction, for instance) would have to be considered before declaring this a non-issue.

@michaelschubert6891

Жыл бұрын

This shouldn't be much of an issue, since roads are designed for trucks - which are more or less a order of magnitude heavier. Even a heavy SUV will be well below the design load.

@ln5747

Жыл бұрын

@@stevemawer848 fake news. Local councils pay for repair of roads, and no it's not from road tax monies.

Firstly thanks for a very well put together video Harry. Also rant alert (-; Yes, it is clear that the current switch to electric vehicles is not going to run to the current timetables. The numbers do not add up as regards generating capacity feeding the grid etc. Even rudimentary load calculations indicate that if all UK private motor vehicles were to go electric that the generating capacity would need to increase to at least 170% of existing levels. That’s before the impact on the power distribution network is considered. Upgrades of this magnitude will take decades, probably in the 30 to 50 year timescale depending on investment levels. Recall that it’s not just new capacity that’s required, the existing generating fleet will also need to be replaced at the same time! Reading the comments below, I think there is an assumption that electric vehicle = BEV !! Electric motors / machines are actually excellent at converting stored energy into kinetic energy and back into electrical energy (regen breaking). The primary issue with electric vehicles is and always has been the batteries (going back to the late 1890’s). Batteries are absolutely terrible at storing electrical energy from an energy density perspective. I think there is a little too much effort going into battery development which is now subject to diminishing returns. I also don't have great confidence that solid state batteries will ever come to much (I will however admit I was wrong if the technology is ever mastered!). More likely, If the technology were feasible, first production generation versions would already be on the road. I suggest that there is not enough going into alternatives (synthetic fuels and yes hydrogen). The above being said, there is certainly a market for the 100 mile range Nissan Leaf type BEV, however that is not a large percentage of the market. For family vehicles, BEV tech is more or less heading for a dead end. Harry mentions Mr. Toyoda in the video, I suspect Toyota will be one of the car companies that will do well over the next two decades. They are taking the long term view and are working to the reality rather than the politics in their vehicle development. In short change is coming, but it will not run as currently envisaged, it almost certainly can’t. A few notes: I am a Chartered Electrical Engineer. I was working on motor drive tech 17 years ago (nowadays I do emergency power supplies and DC systems). A former colleague of mine worked on BEVs back in the 1980’s with GM. He has always dispelled the myth that it was the “big bad oil and auto-companies” that killed off the electric vehicle back then, it wasn’t, it was the batteries. Not much has changed.

Thanks Harry, brilliant, more of this please.

Thanks Harry, fascinating video. It makes me realise just how shambolic and rushed the whole switch to electric has been so far. It really frustrates me. Short sighted governments too afraid to make real changes for the fear of losing votes 🥺

There’s no such zero emissions vehicle I’ll stick with my V8 👍🇦🇺 I’ve just had solar panels installed on my house can’t wait to see the results

Quite right Harry, we need more sensible discussion on this subject. It seems to me that the battery electric car has been made to sort of work and now everybody thinks it is sorted. It's not. We need as much development as ever. In the mean time I will keep my diesel Kuga.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. The EV hype is totally off the charts. The Germans are using huge amounts of lignite to fire electricity generation and the greens are NOT about reducing the use of carbon.....they are simply anti-car. You are a genius and I love that you can make plausible videos about it.

Great summary as always from Harry - spot on. I’m lucky enough to have an electric Mini. I rarely do more than 30miles in any day, I can charge at home with solar panels. It’s one of the smallest EVs with the smallest batteries - so smallest environmental impact. It’s got as much torque as it can handle (a characterful front-wheel torque steer/squiggling to be had with a heavy right foot if desired) it has actual buttons for controls, and doesn’t have lane departure warning. I’ve averaged 4.3miles/kWh this winter - even with cabin pre-heating - and I reckon I’ve done over 1,000 miles on pure Cumbrian sunshine… If EV works for you it works great.

(1) The surge or spike in December could likely relate to registrations i.e. pre-registrations just to manipulate data, those cars will then need to be sold to customers as demo or nearly new. Dealers are often doing pre-reg when they need to massage data to hit targets.

Thank you Harry. I learned a lot in this video. Im in America, have an EV, sold my 3 series BMW wagon as I go less than 200 miles per week. My wife still has her petrol civic si in a manual. Appreciate your openness and candor on a difficult subject. We will all have to work together and not vilify each other.

Thanks Harry.Very informative and helpful on many fronts.Keep up the good work...

Informative video Harry, thank you. I am moving to this way of thinking as I didn't change my three year old M4 at the end of last year which is the first time I haven't updated in nearly 20 years. As you say the best thing for the environment is to use the cars we have, rather than swapping regularly. On the tax advantages they are huge, but the revenue they will lose out on (fuel, RFL, VAT on servicing etc) will surely mean parity will return sooner than forecast.

EV’s are shiny new toys that currently have no mass practical application.

Absolutely spot on. I drive a 12 year old petrol Honda Civic which I've had since new and have no intention of replacing. Although I earn a good salary there is no way I can afford a new EV and being in a area full of terrace houses no way I can charge at home.

Agree completely. The 2-3 year lease deals have a negative impact not just on green credentials but they allow consumers to drive cars that they can’t really afford, which in the current climate might put a strain on them. I hope these vids are beemed into the House of Commons.

Thank you Harry. Very informative. The price of electric cars is completely prohibitive for me at the moment. I have a C class which is £20 to tax, surely that has to be the better option.

I appreciate something different this time even though i always love your traditional car reviews. Keep em coming Harry!

Thoughtful analysis and commentary. Thank you Harry.

Thanks Harry, you’re right, and that’s why I drive Volvo S70 1997 2.5 20V. Only around 239k on the clock 13.1.2023, basicly tre owners car. Working as an electrical supervisor…and criticizing EV hype.