ENMESHMENT: BORDERLINE AND NARCISSISTIC PARENTS

This video describes the signs and impact of ENMESHMENT, which is very common in untreated and undiagnosed Borderline and/or Narcissistic family structures/parents.
From an undeveloped sense of self to frequent anxiety and hyper vigilance, and boundary challenges, the impact of an enmeshed childhood experience tends to linger long past childhood.
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  • @tbd5082
    @tbd5082 Жыл бұрын

    Real freedom is saying “no” without having to give a reason.

  • @RS54321

    @RS54321

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes!!

  • @Lyrielonwind

    @Lyrielonwind

    Жыл бұрын

    No is a complete sentence.

  • @ashanein

    @ashanein

    9 ай бұрын

    Ugh my mother keeps asking for reasons for EVERYTHING! even after I've said no and she responds with "you have every right to choose [enter adult decision here] but I deserve reasons". It's so easy to get seduced into that. I'm really trying hard with the "no" being enough. Grateful for people like y'all 💜

  • @lovenadore1267

    @lovenadore1267

    9 ай бұрын

    Good luck. Stand strong. My mom finally gave up (mostly) trying to get me to break under guilt tripping blah blah. --You matter. How you feel about you and your business is more important than how she feels about you💜.@@ashanein

  • @percubit10

    @percubit10

    9 ай бұрын

    Being abe to say no to the things you have no control over.

  • @tiablasangoriti8347
    @tiablasangoriti83472 жыл бұрын

    I agree, never call you child your best friend. You are the Guide/Leader/Authority/Coach/Administrator/Parent. Do not parentify your children.

  • @gretaw2792
    @gretaw27922 жыл бұрын

    Your videos make me feel so validated! I took a major step back from my (very likely) borderline mother several years ago and because of the enmeshment it was the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I’m an only child so I felt very responsible for her. I remember being a kid and her telling me that if I upset her, she wouldn’t go to work and if she didn’t work then we’d be homeless. Into my adulthood I always felt like I had to make sure I was acting a certain way to fend off her rages. I couldn’t stand her but was also helping her with things multiple times a week! It’s hard to understand if you haven’t experienced it. Thank you so much for your videos and explaining it so clearly.

  • @DrKimSage

    @DrKimSage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for sharing this. Your story is exactly what I am talking about - it really does make it so complicated and at times, hard for others to understand. I am so proud of you for protecting yourself as an adult, in a way you couldn't in childhood. And, I know it is really painful and difficult at times to make changes in our lives like this. Sending you so much support and healing!!🙏🙏

  • @RS54321

    @RS54321

    Жыл бұрын

    Only child as well...I can really relate to what you've said. I remember my mom threatening to 'jump off a cliff' b/c I had forgotten my glasses while we were on the way to a sightseeing tour and we didn't have time to go back and retrieve them. I felt completely responsible for her moods and rages. It's an incredible amount of pressure to put on a kid. You're not alone and I hope you get the support and healing you need!

  • @nattie51

    @nattie51

    Жыл бұрын

  • @ChillPill365

    @ChillPill365

    2 ай бұрын

    Right here with you! Another only child checking in. I feel like we grew up in a uniquely shitty situation being caretakers of someone with severe mental health issues growing up rather than being taken care of. I hope you're doing well now! I went NC for years before being drawn back in. Terrible decision but one I'm living with now. My most recent encounter with my mom she told me she was going to shoot me and then shoot herself because I was depressed. That was when I noped out of there again. It's just total chaos trying to deal with someone like that. I really hope that I can overcome some of the negative traits I've picked up by being raised by someone like that!

  • @tbd5082
    @tbd5082 Жыл бұрын

    My mom tries to get my kids to side with her against me about real and imaginary conflicts. It is very disturbing, disgusting and frustrating.

  • @brittdove37

    @brittdove37

    Жыл бұрын

    That's awful. I hope things are better for you and your kids now. ❤

  • @TaylorOwen
    @TaylorOwen Жыл бұрын

    I always wondered why my parents seem to not want to know me. Never ask me how I am, what I’m doing, etc etc. Now I understand, they never expected me to have my own identity. I’m only an extension of them who needs to hear about how they feel, and what appliance of theirs broke, etc, etc. They HATE my boundaries and I love living 1,000 miles away. Thank you for this content! ❤❤❤

  • @dreamiedips8624

    @dreamiedips8624

    Жыл бұрын

    Wow so true. I spend my whole college life never asked am I okay. I only came to know that parents ask this way when I saw my roommate in hostel her parents everyday used to ask her whether she is okay have had her food and water adequately. Wow 😢we need to change this so that our kids in the future know there own identity along with the unconditional endearment from their parents.

  • @KingMark33

    @KingMark33

    11 ай бұрын

    Same here! My parents basically tell me how it is and have no interest in hearing me out. Whenever I say something that goes against their believes, they say no, that’s not it…this is how it is, end of story. If I try to explain myself even further, they say I need to learn how to listen to people and stop being so stubborn. They never gave me the opportunity to be myself. I remember posting something on Facebook that they didn’t agree with. They cornered me and told me to take it down….simply because their friends might see it.

  • @SideB1984

    @SideB1984

    6 ай бұрын

    This was my experience as well, unparented, parentless. They never attended my college graduations because they didn’t graduate high school and didn’t understand the value of higher ed. They were only ever proud of me when I was destroying my body doing Ironman races. Now that I am accurately diagnosed with things I was born with, I see the neglect and lack of separate identity, failure to develop and parent their kids. Refrigerator mom fits for 2x autism diagnosis in our family.

  • @sunsetpainting9163
    @sunsetpainting91632 жыл бұрын

    'Even if we aren't with them we feel responsible for them' Yes! All of these things hit all the marks, thank you so helpful! It's stuff that is so hard to explain and flesh out.

  • @MybabyboyIra
    @MybabyboyIra Жыл бұрын

    😭😭 I'm just tired of my mother acting victim all the time. I'm just tired but she has no where to go but here with me. 😭😭💔💔

  • @realhealing7802
    @realhealing78022 жыл бұрын

    This was brilliant! You explained my relationship with my mother so well. I had to be her everything and if I didn't fulfill her needs, she punished me. It was an awful way to grow up. The guilt I felt in the relationship was unbelievable. It would keep me awake at night. Enmeshment in any relationship is unhealthy. I wish I had this information decades ago.

  • @DrKimSage

    @DrKimSage

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am so sorry you endured such a painful childhood. I so understand, and I wish I had this info too - it's really why I keep talking about it. Sending so much healing and support to you:)!!

  • @SarahNissen
    @SarahNissen Жыл бұрын

    My undiagnosed borderline mom died almost 3.5 years ago. It was just her and me when I was growing up and we were so enmeshed. It was such a relief to have her gone. I feel like I am finally able to grow up and discover who I am and what I actually like separate from her.

  • @timorthelame1

    @timorthelame1

    10 ай бұрын

    Good for YOU!!! I bet it feels like you were finally able to set down a huge weight that you had carried so very long. My only point in saying that is to let a fellow survivor know that myself and others know how that feels. You're not alone. I hope things continue to improve for you and that you reach that same level of peace that others (those who weren't abused) take for granted. You most likely deserve as much.

  • @samanthalemons9794
    @samanthalemons97942 жыл бұрын

    This is so true for my realtionship with my mom. I'm 31 now and I've been trying to keep my distance from her now and she can still make me feel guilty by texting me. Shes so mad that I'm not enmeshed with her like I was before, that she talks to me horrible now and acts like I'm against her.

  • @DrKimSage

    @DrKimSage

    2 жыл бұрын

    I am so sorry for how she responds to you and I am so proud of you for removing yourself from the enmeshment - I know it is NOT easy. No one should be allowed to talk us in hurtful ways - no matter who they are. Sending you so much support in your journey and I am sorry it took me a while to respond!

  • @BobbiGail

    @BobbiGail

    Жыл бұрын

    So similar here!

  • @ashanein

    @ashanein

    9 ай бұрын

    Same here. 💜 It's heart breaking and maddening

  • @oliviahaun3487
    @oliviahaun3487 Жыл бұрын

    As a single parent it has been extremely difficult to deal with an enmeshed mother who also helps with child care. I have just recently taken a step back and the blow back from it has been difficult. Thanks for the reminder that I’m better off paying someone to watch my kid that will listen. She just thinks I’m selfish and crazy for taking a step back, it’s the best act of self love and protection I’ve done for myself in a long time.

  • @taraarrington2285

    @taraarrington2285

    Жыл бұрын

    Please whatever you do keep a distance from her. You give her an inch she'll take a mile. God bless

  • @Nurturing2

    @Nurturing2

    Жыл бұрын

    YES, this is what self care looks like!!! Hang in there❣️

  • @glenncowan6669
    @glenncowan6669 Жыл бұрын

    That is an "emotional Blindspot" for just about everyone regardless of thier age. Enmeshment becomes a subconscious fixation on the unstable emotions of someone else. You tend to lose all sense of your own identity.

  • @sandraritchie6512
    @sandraritchie65122 жыл бұрын

    I am the borderline mother of I think was a borderline mother and never knew I was doing this to my children. I knew there was something wrong with me and I was under what I think was a dependent/controling psychiatrist. I never wanted to hurt my children or anyone. I didnt have the skills or knowing. Thank you for the insight into how my children feel. Sandra

  • @chiaraintagliata7297

    @chiaraintagliata7297

    Жыл бұрын

    You can't do something to someone and not know you're doing it. You see that you are controlling them and manipulating them and hurting them and pushing your stuff onto them. You see them suffer and shut down and not have and express their own identity. You're supposed to protect them and alway monitor how they're feeling and if they're okay to assure everything is good and if something is wrong it's your job to fix it and provide them with whatever care they need.

  • @stingylizard

    @stingylizard

    Жыл бұрын

    Sandra,you are awesome for posting that,like one in a million. Had to be hard...and brave,too. How are things a year later? Anything learned to share?

  • @stingylizard

    @stingylizard

    Жыл бұрын

    @@chiaraintagliata7297 Not everyone has the skills for self analysis. Salute those that become aware and are trying to do better--It's a good thing to seek enlightenment and change your behaviour.

  • @joy8801

    @joy8801

    8 ай бұрын

    @@stingylizardpeople who dont have self awareness should not be parents. I salute her for trying to heal, but its not children job to help her or heal her.

  • @stingylizard

    @stingylizard

    8 ай бұрын

    @@joy8801 I agree. I just endured an NPD verbal assault from a 81 yr old parent as my reward for the privilege of being a caregiver(for someone that would never do the same back). Now that I understand NPD,all that fails to rattle my nerves. As a kid? It was brutal.

  • @storgs
    @storgs Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for calling out this “best friend” stuff some parents do. It is so icky and controlling.

  • @Chaotic313
    @Chaotic313 Жыл бұрын

    What a great explanation. I was deeply enmeshed with my narcissistic father whom I still called Daddy right up until the day he passed. I was the golden child and was reminded frequently that I was the only one "turning out right". My three siblings who struggled with addictions and mental illnesses all passed early from what I believe now to be a life of self medication to treat their inner pain. I adored and feared my father at the same time. I felt responsible for his happiness, something my mother reinforced by telling me I was his perfect companion at a very early age. I was terrified of disappointing him. He wanted me to stay with him forever, and even on my wedding day was telling me I was making a mistake and that is wasn't too late to change my mind. I felt terrible guilt for abandoning him. Thank you for these wonderful videos that are helping me to make sense of my past so that I can rescue my present and future.❤

  • @naomi6056
    @naomi6056 Жыл бұрын

    my mom has borderline and is still fundamentally a sweet person, but labile and chaotic. this video describes me and my struggles today and it's so impactful to hear my story validated. it's so difficult to think on my childhood because i don't want to criticize or hurt my mom, but my programming for relationships is so painful now :(

  • @nabilaoukhiat7247

    @nabilaoukhiat7247

    5 ай бұрын

    I have A borderline mom too As A child I was so lost waiting to see her happy she was always sad because of my covert narsist dad

  • @hollyisalive
    @hollyisalive6 ай бұрын

    I’ve come to realize in recent years that I have a highly toxic relationship with my mother, who very much models behavior of a borderline narcissist. She has a very unhealthy attachment to me and lashes out when I assert my independence. Watching this video has been pretty illuminating.

  • @reflection176

    @reflection176

    2 ай бұрын

    Mine too!

  • @RS54321
    @RS54321 Жыл бұрын

    Only child, just mom and me growing up. The enmeshment was huge-she referred to me as being such a 'good' baby b/c I was quiet and didn't need much from her...she even stopped breastfeeding me at 3 months I think for her own benefit (taking too much from her?) and also smoked all while pregnant w/ me and thereafter (which I hated but she couldn't put that aside for my health). When I hit puberty, I became a 'b$#%@' in her eyes and difficult b/c I started to pull away and find my own interests (which were different from hers). She would often say 'we like this music' or 'we like those clothes,' going so far as to say how tall we both were even though I was a few inches taller than her, as though we were one entity. When I'd say 'We aren't the same person,' or 'I don't like that music' or 'I don't like this top you bought me,' it's like she couldn't hear it OR would get angered and counter with 'well I do!!' as though she needed to override or negate me. I parented her and was forced to listen to her relate stories from her own abuse, over and over...things that no 8 year old (or whatever age I was) should have been exposed to. I had one counselling session when I was around 15, and my mom hated it b/c she knew I was going to be talking about her and she couldn't stand that, as though she had done no wrong. I never got further counselling until I was in my 20s and away from home. No other adult was around to see this sickness and stand up for me...I felt so alone and unable to really understand what was going on with my mom, so I internalized everything. I often felt like I was going crazy. What was massively prevalent in my mom was/is a victim mentality, rage issues, martyr syndrome. She even went so far as to say she wished she'd had a boy instead b/c she thought boys would've been so much easier (even though all her brothers were abusive to her). In my 40s I'm finally figuring out that my mom may have enmeshed narcissism, which has been so hard to pinpoint b/c she is not grandiose or overt. It's been a challenging journey, and I'm glad to finally be getting the help and awareness I have sorely been lacking. It's like undergoing deprogramming. Thanks for your informative and helpful video!

  • @madeleinerose4180

    @madeleinerose4180

    8 ай бұрын

    You are the only person who I’ve seen say that their parent made them listen to stories of their own abuse. That was inflicted on me, in great detail, as a child and continues to this day. I just want to say that I relate to you, thank you for sharing your story and good luck in your healing.

  • @RS54321

    @RS54321

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@madeleinerose4180 Thanks for your kind words. I'm sorry you were made to listen to things no kid should ever have to know about. I hope you've found freedom and healing in your journey as well! You're not alone.

  • @KingMark33
    @KingMark3311 ай бұрын

    The last time I tried to set boundaries with my mom, she called my siblings and told them I was being mean to her. They then called me and told me to stop messing with their mom…yet they call themselves a “support system”

  • @pjgarret7653

    @pjgarret7653

    8 ай бұрын

    Keep those boundaries and "grey rock" as much as you can. Detach as much as you need. Sending you encouragement for strength!

  • @teriwiddison1181
    @teriwiddison11812 жыл бұрын

    I was married to a covert passive aggressive narcissist for 18 years who had a meshed relationship with his daughter. He made her a golden child and used her to triangulate me the entire marriage. When I spoke up and called him out he discarded me. Didn't know what it was till I was out of the marriage and did my research. Great video describing the dynamics of this twisted behavior!

  • @protospha

    @protospha

    Жыл бұрын

    So what happened to your daughter, then? Did she develop any Cluster B personality disorders. And/or did she ever escape from the enmeshment with her father?

  • @theresavanriessen1269

    @theresavanriessen1269

    14 күн бұрын

    You just described my situation perfectly. At first I thought it was guilt over being divorced from her mom but it just never ended and continues to this day.

  • @everydayarty
    @everydayarty2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!! I so appreciate you talking about these issues. I see this in my life and I also know so many codependent people who will defend their abusers until their dying breath. That’s the hardest thing to build: a sense that it’s ok for you to belong to yourself when you’ve had no structure that says any such thing! Thanks so much for the work you do and for sharing it here! ☺️

  • @DrKimSage

    @DrKimSage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for sharing and you are so welcome! I love the wording of "ok for you to belong to yourself" - beautifully described! Sending you support and healing and strength!🙏🙏

  • @Zekrom569
    @Zekrom5693 ай бұрын

    One very frequent reason for parentification/infantilization and in general enmeshment family is because when parents have their children grow up, it is not to become their own independent beings, but instead take it for granted that their kids will become a committed caregiver for them, especially when elderly. Sometimes they would switch between reversing the parent-child roles and infantilizing their child(even if they are adults), usually the infantilization will happen when the child asks for their boundaries to be respected or when they attempt to assert age appropriate autonomy, but in general it depends on what is most convenient for them, this switching is a very good sign that the parent-child relationship is enmeshed

  • @darfish7420
    @darfish7420 Жыл бұрын

    I’m watching your videos to refresh my understanding of the Queen-mother in my life. Slowly we became enmeshed again after a couple of years no contact. Her toxicity is negatively affecting my life and right now I’m taking a break to reset boundaries. Thank you for the kind and gentle way you teach.

  • @reflection176
    @reflection1762 ай бұрын

    My mom told my toddler son that he can call her “mom”. She went into a fit of rage once and told me that she’s taking my son away from me so she could raise my son and that my son was really her son.

  • @akaHobbs
    @akaHobbs2 жыл бұрын

    When you started going down the list of things we can have a hard time doing…spot on!

  • @LisaVaughton
    @LisaVaughton9 ай бұрын

    I knew something was wrong with my boyfriends relationship with his 19 & 20 year old daughters. He was always seeking their approval, parenting out of fear, triangulating me with them by constantly making comments to both of us about each other (usually i was being devalued), , constantly repeating the same comments about what they "wear" when they go out (when on a date with me) and then one day at the dinner table, when I was ignored for the whole time - because it was all about them (touching daughter inappropriately to the point that she was pushing him away, and making comments like "why don't you come stay at mine") - I felt creeped out. That's when I walked out - at the table, then & there - poor girls. yuk. addit precursor - when the girls walked into dads house, they had completely ignored me. Getting to the point im glad I'm out of there but it has taken me a while.

  • @lisanelke9726
    @lisanelke97269 ай бұрын

    My mother and I were extremely enmeshed. She was married four times but it was not ok for me bc I had to take care of her and my siblings and every other immature idiot. I'm going to be 68 in January and all my parents and stepparents are deceased and I'm asking God for a husband. I'm single, have never married, and have a child in Heaven bc my mom told me which doctor to go to for an abortion. I have been working on these issues since 1987 and I'm ready for my own life with a man ♂️🙏🩷🫂

  • @natalienufer9262
    @natalienufer9262 Жыл бұрын

    I'm OBSESSED with your videos. Even your voice is so soothing and validating. I have been watching videos non-stop for days. I've been in therapy for years and am in therapy again for the first time in 2 years. Watching your videos along side the therapy has given me some amazing energy. Thanks so much xox

  • @kcchastiel9812
    @kcchastiel9812 Жыл бұрын

    The documentary ‘Bright Lights’ depicts the complicated enmeshment between Reynolds and Fisher.

  • @tiablasangoriti8347
    @tiablasangoriti83472 жыл бұрын

    Dr Kim you are the best!😍😍😍

  • @LindaLucia17
    @LindaLucia17 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for validating this experience.

  • @JennyJohn50
    @JennyJohn502 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for this. I find bits & pieces that fit my childhood, but parts don't seem to fit anywhere at all for identifying what I grew up with. I've cried through a lot of your videos because I identify with a Lot of the behaviors or results you talk about. CPTSD is largely Ingrained in me from experiences throughout my life & Im enjoying taking from your videos some validation, but more so an understanding of a few of the why's. Thank you.

  • @lucylee704
    @lucylee7042 жыл бұрын

    Dr Kim your videos are so valuable. There are not really any other videos out there about the complex relationship with a borderline parent. Thank you for your time and efforts!

  • @tiablasangoriti8347
    @tiablasangoriti83472 жыл бұрын

    Your work is remarkably healing.

  • @kerryfaden94
    @kerryfaden943 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much! This is everything!

  • @priest9325
    @priest93258 ай бұрын

    Well spoken. Thank you.

  • @gojiberry7201
    @gojiberry72012 жыл бұрын

    Thank you kindly for these videos :)

  • @TheColourAwesomer
    @TheColourAwesomer10 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much for your videos. I really relate to this. Your way of speaking is really compassionate, and helps me to not feel so alone.

  • @gabbydasliva
    @gabbydasliva2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Kim

  • @DrKimSage

    @DrKimSage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! I am so happy that you find it helpful!🙏🙏

  • @lizzystubbs1672
    @lizzystubbs1672 Жыл бұрын

    I love you soooooo much. You have no idea how much you have helped me. ❤

  • @teznejensel9099
    @teznejensel90998 ай бұрын

    This is the best by far video I have listened to regarding enmeshement

  • @wubree29
    @wubree292 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for another wonderful video Dr Sage!

  • @DrKimSage

    @DrKimSage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much! So glad you liked it!!🙏😀

  • @user-ex6mh2qe8o
    @user-ex6mh2qe8o3 ай бұрын

    Thank you Dr. Sage, you have hepled me to identify why I never feel at peace. Feeling responsible for averting disaster all the time, because I expect it!

  • @tiablasangoriti8347
    @tiablasangoriti83472 жыл бұрын

    Hood Gawd, I can identify with so much of what you shared Dr Kim. Thank You for being so well informed and sharing this valuable information with us. I got all your references. We are of the same generation. ☺

  • @DrKimSage

    @DrKimSage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Gen X!:).

  • @delia5158
    @delia51582 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful! Thank You so Much!

  • @DrKimSage

    @DrKimSage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much for watching and sharing!😀🙏

  • @story7088
    @story70882 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for giving this validation. It does become very complicated once your own kids enter the mix.. It is assuring to hear you state so clearly that not relying on them is generally for the best.

  • @throttle4593
    @throttle45932 жыл бұрын

    You have the nicest videos, always kind and gently urging us in the right direction. Thank you.

  • @DrKimSage

    @DrKimSage

    2 жыл бұрын

    So kind! Thank you so much!!🙏🙏

  • @choi3310
    @choi33102 жыл бұрын

    thanks . very nice advice.

  • @lightbluedev
    @lightbluedev7 ай бұрын

    Great video. Nicely detailed and spelled out.

  • @kittygrowl839
    @kittygrowl8392 жыл бұрын

    Great video, thanks so much.

  • @DrKimSage

    @DrKimSage

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much!:). Thank you for sharing and watching.💗

  • @mcm9619
    @mcm961911 ай бұрын

    Very well explained thank you .

  • @kennethjmurphy3364
    @kennethjmurphy3364 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much.

  • @afal381
    @afal38111 ай бұрын

    Good stuff, all true. Hard to grow up an enmeshed son of a narc mother. Going no contact was the only way free, but it's so, so, so hard to do (the guilt is insane).

  • @mattng4707
    @mattng470711 ай бұрын

    So true so true thank you for explaining this enmeshment

  • @BookWorm2369
    @BookWorm2369 Жыл бұрын

    Great video. I'm at the point where I'm trying to break patterns of enmeshment with my own children. I am pretty sure my mother has an undiagnosed personality disorder. I broke away from the enmeshment with her, but now I'm seeing that I do not have any knowledge on how to relate to my children in a way that isn't reminiscent of enmeshment. I thought that I was helping them to regulate their emotions, but really I was still trying to "fix" or change their feelings. I think this is common since it is really the adults inability to manage their own emotions, so they attempt to control others emotions to feel better. I am learning how to create more affect tolerance in myself through therapy, medication, and my ongoing psychological work. Any tips or advice on how to break these residual patterns, even when you don't have a PD (you just don't know anything else because you've only known enmeshment as a way of relating to others)?

  • @tiablasangoriti8347
    @tiablasangoriti83472 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful Beautiful Beautiful!😍

  • @bouchrakartobi180
    @bouchrakartobi180 Жыл бұрын

    You said it all

  • @nathaliachristensen
    @nathaliachristensen8 ай бұрын

    You are amazing ❤

  • @briellabella101
    @briellabella1012 жыл бұрын

    This is incredible. I am just now coming to understand all of this at 28 years old. Do you have any information or being raised by a couple who is a borderline and their partner is a narcissist? I can't find much on the subject and I would love to hear more on the subject from professionals or others who have suffered from this.

  • @bridgetpalmer8097
    @bridgetpalmer8097 Жыл бұрын

    This video 👏🏼👏🏼 I feel I'm in the middle of feeling like I'm responsible for both sides, parent(s) and children. I am in therapy

  • @Suelynngrr
    @Suelynngrr Жыл бұрын

    Yes, yes, YES!

  • @rasto007
    @rasto0072 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for great insights. You mentioned that you wish you did some of the inside work 20/30 years ago yourself. That is an admirable admission. I have a friend that studied psychology and she a great insight into others. But the lack of her self-insight is surprising, almost perpexing. She is quite sensitive to feedback. What are some tips to help her along?

  • @vickieheather9682
    @vickieheather9682 Жыл бұрын

    Right. Divorced, needed help watching my kids...she started pitting them against me. I tried to cut her off so many times. Honestly hated her.

  • @bombshelterfoxes
    @bombshelterfoxes2 жыл бұрын

    Is this the same as emotional/covert incest?

  • @indigoechos6796

    @indigoechos6796

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes

  • @Nurturing2
    @Nurturing2 Жыл бұрын

    I felt the same way about characterizing your children as best friends. However, as they become adults and we have mutual respect for one another I have a different opinion. My daughters are brilliant women whom I genuinely respect. We respect each other and feel safe because of our healthy dynamic. I trust their insight more than anyone I know. I think we genuinely consider ourselves best friends. My daughters are each other’s best friend. They have referred to me as their best friend and mom. We have done our inner work and continue to do so. I am grateful to say I don’t know of another family who is more healthy than ours. Would love to hear your thoughts on my perspective. I shared your perspective until my relationship shifted with my daughters as adult women.

  • @protospha

    @protospha

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes! Dr. Kim Sage - Could you please respond to '@Nurturing2', above, who said in her last 2 lines "Would love to hear your thoughts on my perspective. I shared your perspective until my relationship shifted with my daughters as adult women". My own similar question would be: Is there always a line that should be drawn between a mother and her daughters, no matter what age these daughters are?

  • @cherylmockotr

    @cherylmockotr

    Жыл бұрын

    Are you good friends with any other young women your daughters' ages, but your daughters are the best friends out of the group? If you reread your specific wording of this post you may be able to see how perfect and grandiose it sounds. It comes across as being a pretty unhealthy enmeshment... I don't think you beat the system here. This would be a great comment to bring to a therapist to get his/her take on it and why you worded it the way you did.

  • @rajitakaura7233
    @rajitakaura72332 жыл бұрын

    How to fill voids so that pattern doesnot repeat ?

  • @nancybartley4610
    @nancybartley4610 Жыл бұрын

    Is rage always obvious? Can it be sleeping excessively/silent treatment? My mom was not vocal, but slept inordinate amounts of time and was cross and removed.

  • @amandaj8028
    @amandaj802819 күн бұрын

    I was sure that my mother had BPD. But now I'm not so sure because while there is definite enmeshment , I almost feel like it's more on my part. My mother wasn't a helicopter parent, she was actually more neglectful and seemed a little dethatched dealing with her own mental issues I suppose. I felt very lonely and unheard as a child. But when we did have communication she was usually angry or seemed kind of inconvenienced when I wanted to connect emotionally or express my own depression. As an adult I have deff struggled with having that separation of self from her. I take care of her and feel very guilty when I don't give her whatever she asks me for. But is it bpd? I don't know. Am I the one with bpd? Whenever she uses drugs or alcohol or makes stupid reckless decisions, I get so angry and upset that she keeps doing these things that she knows hurts me very deeply, I get very verbally angry and abusive towards her. I can't control it. She just wants me to leave her alone and let her do what she wants, but then when she comes down and is depressed and feels like life isn't worth living I have to be there to pick up the pieces emotionally, financially. I just want to know what's wrong with her, us. etc. I need answers so I can make sense of why my childhood, and my adult hood is plagued with feelings of emptiness, and inadequacy, self loathing, depression. etc. I feel like a child and like I've never seen myself as an adult even though Im 35 years old. I've always felt like I had to walk on eggshells with her and everyone else. I feel like a child with every adult. it's bizarre . I feel like How can I be a mother when I am still a child? It sounds embarrassing and pathetic but it's how I feel . Anybody else?

  • @nancybartley4610
    @nancybartley4610 Жыл бұрын

    Between enmeshment and trauma bonding (are they actually the same thing?) and being in a powerless position for approximately 18 years, do we even have a chance to be ourselves?

  • @Noemie291

    @Noemie291

    11 ай бұрын

    While our self might die or be dead, essence never will. Edit: also your first sentence is interesting. Triggered some thoughts. And yeah I think you are correct

  • @angelaatwood46
    @angelaatwood46 Жыл бұрын

    Oh my god. I don't know what to do. I have an upstairs neighbor who is malevolent. She and I had a falling out and instead of going on with her life and me going on with mine, she began to throw extremely heavy objects on her floor/my ceiling. I think she has weights and was smashing one on the floor. It happened 3/4 of the summer. I would be sitting in my living room, paralyzed from the sound. She and her husband are divorced and she told me he was the narcissist. Well, it turns out maybe that's true, but she is as well, or borderline as you put it. Like a furious child in an adult body. Her husband has custody but she visits her mom. I finally had enough and started using my broom on the ceiling and yelling for her to stop. It never worked. One night, a mysterious boom came from somewhere. I thought it was her acting up again. She thought it was me. Or so she says. I was furious, this wasn't going to happen at night. I grabbed my broom and yes, started screaming at the ceiling. Her 15 or 16 year old child was there. She texted me that she and her child "knew the truth." After watching your videos and all she can say about her child is how much he is achieving, and so admired by her, and involving her child in the statement that he knows the truth as well, whatever that means, it sounds like this video! I had had it and called a manager to deliver to the owner all the times she abused me and was starting again. Then a meeting was held for me to voice my complaints and then hers. A letter was then sent out, finally (I hope) blocking her from doing these things. But she seems enmeshed with her son. The comments and the fact that I have seen no friends ever come over because she may be incapable of friendship except with her child says a lot. Her child really is exceptional. My eyes filled with tears at not being able to tell him his mother had been abusing me and doesn't know the real story. I want to say something to her but I know his mother, if she knew, would not be able to handle it. Maybe someday I can just say, "you don't know the whole story." I grew up in a dysfunctional family and this sweet child I want to protect so much. What can you do in a situation like this? It breaks my heart 😟Btw, I have been using the term he, because it's actually a girl who is trans. I hope you can accept that.💗

  • @Noemie291

    @Noemie291

    11 ай бұрын

    So a woman? Not surprised narcs create trans. You hope we can accept what? Not saying you* do but tolerating excessively or encouraging trans people, actually support their false selves. So it enables dysfunction and narcissism.

  • @womangoodies2199
    @womangoodies2199 Жыл бұрын

    Welcome to my mom!

  • @sterlgirlceline
    @sterlgirlceline Жыл бұрын

    ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @billweiss9514
    @billweiss951410 ай бұрын

    debbie reynolds chose my father from hundreds of soldiers in n.korea and he went up on stage and met her.i have pictures.

  • @EricDean-sq8io
    @EricDean-sq8io3 ай бұрын

    👋😋

  • @richard-en2dx
    @richard-en2dx Жыл бұрын

    💋🌹🍵

  • @nickback275
    @nickback275 Жыл бұрын

    do u even have kids?

  • @gab1203

    @gab1203

    Жыл бұрын

    She has three or four

  • @amandadavis8855
    @amandadavis8855 Жыл бұрын

    You have such a clear and concise way of delivering this information, thank you for helping me understand these patterns of behavior more so that I can make new choices ❤

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