I’ve waited 46 years to see the end of this match!!As a group of students in London back then we (not me I wanted to stay ) decide to leave early to avoid the crowds , but missed the equaliser for Argentina , thinking England had won 2-1 . Still a great game and superb entertainment !!

@wazzock999

3 жыл бұрын

@Jericho Rogelio - no one cares, fuck off with your spam bullshit

A great match between two classic teams, cheers from Argentina.

@mnd1955

Жыл бұрын

Cheers to you too. Always loved the way Argentina played the game.

@normanjones7490

Жыл бұрын

That Chap " Brookin' gud

Kempes, Houseman, Ayala, Perfumo, grandes jugadores del fútbol argentino, kempes en el mundial del 78 la rompió, que CRACK.

Kempes' penalty was so properly struck to the corner that even if there was no net, the ball would have hit the inside support / post and come right back.

Matches against England are classics and epic !!! Both teams crave dearly for a win no-matter-how !!! Peter Shilton and Kempes are legendary!!!! So sad we had that political dispute in 1982... Wish things would've been different between both nations. You can't deny it's a match nobody wants to lose...

@cabjdavid

4 жыл бұрын

the rivalry goes back to the invasion of 1806

@vantheman1244

3 жыл бұрын

Political dispute!!! 😂 you mean you the war?

@henalihenali

3 жыл бұрын

The memorial in Buenos Aires to the Argentian soldiers who died in the Falklands is very moving. A lovely people.

@luperamos7307

Жыл бұрын

Why didn't the English ever take it over? They certainly had the intention to.

@pabloromero5385

Жыл бұрын

"Political dispute" do you call England having stolen territory from Argentina? You're wrong! And don't forget that the treasury of the profits from the port of the Río de La Plata was also stolen, in the first of the two English invasions (1806).

England vs Argentina is always a promise of good football. Both teams give their all and the spectacle is the favoured one. I am very sorry that England were knocked out of the 1974 World Cup in Germany, as they had a great team and excellent players. Greetings and respect from Argentina.

@OlizerVanAntoninus

Жыл бұрын

What was wrong with Argentine football before 78? Was it politics or the coaches as they seemed to underperform.

@stevieaotearoa

Жыл бұрын

@@OlizerVanAntoninus Lack of organisation and planning. The federation was run by corrupted muppets. Proof of that is that argentine local clubs were winning the continental and intercontinental trophies (Racing, Independiente, Estudiantes) but the national team was crap. After the awful performance in WC 1958 argentine football changed drastically to a conservative, defensive and very aggressive at times. That certainly have not helped to perform. We were out of WC1970 due to the federation and style. In 1974 we had a much better side although still chaotic and finally from 78 we had some consistency.

@OlizerVanAntoninus

Жыл бұрын

@@stevieaotearoaI'd say C L Menotti was also the right man at the right time and had a big influence.

Respect to both teams... When football was football...

@marcelogato6975

3 жыл бұрын

Ud. es hijo de Marcelo Araujo?

@simonwoods8809

3 жыл бұрын

David Coleman makes a reference at the end to the rough tactics of the Argentinians/South Americans but English/British football was hardly clean either. Referees let far too much go in those days although some players go down far too easily these days. RIP Frank Worthington as of today 23/3/21. We lost Colin Bell recently too. Emlyn Hughes and Keith Weller died some years ago. I'm getting old...

RIP Frank Elvis Worthington xx

Great to see some pre 1978 footage of the orginal 'Super Mario' Kempes. The one Argentinian who could be relied upon on to play things straight.

What a brilliant commentator David Coleman was.

@jamesgonzalez4022

6 жыл бұрын

8busby 1-0!

@virtuosowins

6 жыл бұрын

Yes the kind we want but wont get these days, pure proper delightful English commentators they were.. In cricket and football alike.

@johnmacaroni105

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I liked it when they'd say in those days, beautifully executed, well killed at 3:14 excellent shot, I was a kid back then and thought, they're ex ww2 military, it made the games like, us against them, it's f,kin war 🤣 👍

I did not know that kempes had also made 2 shilton goals. That goalkeeper was destined to be the son of the idols of Argentina.

El Loco René Houseman era un animal, todo un mounstro, un distinto, que jugador adelantado a su tiempo.

@edwinvega5734

4 жыл бұрын

Un crack de aquellos el loco Housseman, un deleite verlo jugar, y el Matador Kempes un animal en el área.

@CarlosGarcia1971

2 жыл бұрын

Estoy leyendo la autobiografía de Mario Kempes y comenta que el loco Housemann se había quedado fumando un cigarrillo en el vestuario. Lo encontraron, entró y le dio ese pase previo al penal :)

Kempes was only 20 at the time, and not quite yet playing with Valencia. He had a lukewarm performance in WC74, but it was to be quite the springboard for his heroics at WC78.

Shilton wasn't the greatest at saving penalties. He waited until the ball was kicked before diving. He was still doing this at Italia '90.

@keithwellerlounge74

5 жыл бұрын

It was right in the bottom corner for fuck's sake. Is he supposed to jump the other way like most idiot keepers do now? Shilton had the right idea; only perfect penalties go in if you go the right way. It's not his fault twats like Pearce and Waddle couldn't hit the corners in '90.

@BobCassidy

5 жыл бұрын

He saved none against Germany! Check out his record against penos, its not pretty.

@lovejoy3347

5 жыл бұрын

Shilton always seemed to collapse more than dive

@duncanbirss4333

5 жыл бұрын

attymarco great goalie but barely saved a pen , a prick on here has to say twats , well done !

@Gerard_2024

5 жыл бұрын

@@@keithwellerlounge74 ...I agree with your point, Kempes was world class and knew what he was doing, but slightly changing the topic... if I remember correctly, poor old Chris Waddle received all the blame for England´s World Cup exit in 1990 (because he took the last penalty - which always sticks in everybody´s mind), whereas, as you correctly say, Pearce also missed his pen on that fateful night (hence the over-the top celebration as he exorcised his demons by scoring a pen against Spain in 1996 in the Euro championships).

in these times the international games were full of excitement and emotions! when there were matches on wednesday you started thinking about days before! Nowadays it's business as usual, nothing special! Sad!

@carlosaraujo9037

5 жыл бұрын

Curiously i got the same sensation...

@PrZemek44

5 жыл бұрын

Man, we started counting days to European Cups quarterfinals in early December, after the draw! ;) The year was 1970 and our (Polish) two teams were there... Ole good times...

@arqpantoff

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely true!!! The same thing happens here in Argentina. Most perople couldn´t care less except for the WC matches.

Remember Kempes from the 78 World Cup, but didn't realise about this matc. An excellent penalty.

Great to see Worthington and Weller playing, shame Mercer couldn’t keep the job, hard to think only 8 years before this we won the World Cup

@enismarch1907

3 жыл бұрын

3 Leicester players. Weller, Wortho and Shilton and nearly beat future world champions.

@staceygrove5976

3 жыл бұрын

Worthington's international career didn't survive the appointment of Don Revie. No real surprise - Revie did a superb job at Leeds, best club manager at top level in the 60s and 70s, but a bit lacking in the England job.

England would surely have had a better chance of qualifying for World Cups with Weller & Worthington in the team. Hugely underrated.

@johnmacaroni105

Жыл бұрын

Definitely.

Not sure why the crowd were booing as it seemed a stonewall penalty to me thanks to crazy horse and yet another mistimed tackle that can't really be argued with. Interesting that Mario Kempes was in the Argentinian team and only the second cap for Brooking too. Several of this England team have unfortunately passed away now and a couple of names I had no idea had played for England (Alec Lindsay & Keith Weller) . RIP Frank Worthington - a true maverick.

The last time I saw this was watching it on sports night in 1974! A few thoughts. Why didn't the FA give the job to joe mercer. Instead they brought in Revie who ballsed everything up. Also it's strange that worthington and weller didn't receive more caps, they were good players. And finally that was definitely a penalty, emlyn Hughes had form for protesting decisions even though he knew the ref was right. At the time I can remember being a bit disappointed not to win, but also thinking that it was a good performance against a very good team. Kempis would go on to be player of the tournament at World Cup 1978.

@christopherspencer5323

4 жыл бұрын

They did offer Mercer the job, but he turned it down unfortunately

@kailashpatel1706

3 жыл бұрын

Mercer's short period showed the huge potential that England outfit had..Keegan/Worthington/Channon using movement and pace with Brooking and Bell pulling strings...Todd at the back..Just maybe and yep Revie screwed everything up..

@kailashpatel1706

3 жыл бұрын

and a young dave watson

Piece of trivia - Argentina used to play in grey socks. Official colours. Mario Kempes was a class act.

I wonder why Emlyn Hughes DIDN'T think a scissors tackle on Kempes in the box should result in a pen.

@addigi5598

6 жыл бұрын

Richard Taylor ..because he used get away it with playing that way in England

@pedrolistacarey4880

6 жыл бұрын

Taylor - You Brits made such a fuzz over that game in '74 (forgetting it was just a friendly match) because you couldn't believe that after being 2-0 up, and with only 2 minutes to go, the game would end with an incredible 2-2...You guys didn't know who Mario Kempes was until then ! A tremendous striker, four years later in Argentina '78 he would end up winning the Cup and becoming the top scorer among all participants...

@vastariner

6 жыл бұрын

Because it wasn't when he played for Liverpool.

@timrobinson100

5 жыл бұрын

are u mad he dived

@pedrolistacarey4880

4 жыл бұрын

@@kingkane1051 - You're full of shit, man..you're sick with hatred.

Penalty decision was fair. Hughes did wrong.

@anocsalepo

4 жыл бұрын

%200 penalty.england cries.

That England team of 1974 plays better than the team of today.

It was a pitty that England did not play the 74 Germany World Cup because that team had very good players. Argentina had excellent players too, but not a solid team. Thanks for this video! Nice!

que reliqui este video.que maravilla.como guarda el tiempo

I went to this match on a school trip. It was a great adventure for a teenager. I saw Geoff Hurst outside Wembley too.

"The attendance looks to be around 50-60,000" Uh? Looks more like a conservative estimate of around 100,000 to me!

Kempes...Matador!!! Slayer!!!

@timrobinson100

5 жыл бұрын

diving cheat in this game

Excellent game! Technically, England were much better then than now. Two superbly taken goals. Not sure why Hughes was complaining about the penalty. England v Argentina is always a game worth watching!

@pedroguilayn

8 жыл бұрын

+Philip Raiswell Very true. In those days England pressed its pace and rythm over everyone. I remember clearly another England-Argentina match in 1980 when Maradona performed incredibly great, but even so England scored 3-1. I remember also an England Brazil in 81 when Brazil won 1-0, but suffered a tremendous pressure till the very end and was lucky to survive. The only match I recall the english were really outpaced and outplayed in Wembley was a 0-2 to Holland in 1977. That day Johan Cruyff comanded the play like I've never seen before and never saw again. Nowadays the english team seems to me to lack personality and class. Also, Wembley Stadium was an awesome temple of football and today is only another hypermodern boring and ordinary stadium.

@philipraiswell3570

8 жыл бұрын

I think the 'hatred' between England and Argentina is actually fuelled by a mutual respect for each other. Two hotbed football nations, yes with historical moments that have added to the flames, but with also both countries having a rich history of great players and clubs.

@diptastik5651

8 жыл бұрын

+Philip Raiswell Can't agree with you more . We played far better football then , technically way better than today's standards . More passion , more confidence plus we had more strength in depth with good players who could come into the side .

@johnp515

8 жыл бұрын

I agree with most of that but sadly, the history books will tell you that it was also the "wilderness" years for the English national team. England didn't qualify for the finals of the WC in either '74 or 78 even though, ironically at the same time, English club sides were having the most successful period they've ever had in Europe.

@philipraiswell3570

8 жыл бұрын

True, but in those days only 16 teams qualified (one from each group) and England were drawn with two excellent sides in Poland (1974) and Italy (1978). Both those sides reached the last four and England were a match for both of them in the groups.

6:04...and yet they call the Argentines animals? Alec Lindsay's behavior was disgraceful. It was almost as if he was just feeding into the hype that the Argentines were dirty and so he came in th game already demonising them. If it was the other way around, it would have fed into the propaganda and we would never have heard the end of it.

@sallysmith1484

10 жыл бұрын

Regardless there's no smoke without fire and the Argentinians had a well-deserved reputation for dirty, violent play.

@AlexzandrSpringvale

10 жыл бұрын

Says who Sally Smith? That was a propaganda perpetrated by Sir Alf Ramsay leading up to the 1966 World Cup. England committed 33 fouls against 19 for Argentina in the Quarterfinals of the 1966 World Cup. Numbers don't lie but propaganda certainly do.

@JohannsAli

9 жыл бұрын

***** well said Dude

@theboss4840

9 жыл бұрын

***** Did you watch the game in 66? Sure number lie - they do not show how dirty the Argentinians played that day. And continue to do so ...

@TheCosmicFunker

8 жыл бұрын

+The Boss Can you find any footage of this alleged dirty play in 66 by the Argentina players? Anytime I've seen film of the game, there has been the same foul shown over and over again , and while it was a foul, it wasn't a particularly bad one. The entire game was shown live, yet I haven't seen even one really bad tackle from the game. Doesn't that strike you as odd? If someone shows me film of dirty play by the Argentina players I'll admit I was wrong. You do realise Rattin was sent off for having the temerity to ask for an interpreter? I don't know why he did this, maybe the fact that the England players committed more fouls but weren't getting punished for them could, have been the reason.

Thank you! real football !!

Kempes idol!

Gran partido de Kempes!!!!!

Jajajaja que patada le tira el 3 al loco Houseman a los 6.05 y ni así lo agarra y de la bronca le tira un pelotazo jajajaja

@AbelTaboada

5 жыл бұрын

nunca habia visto este partido. Grande el Loco Houseman. Mencho Balbuena, No teníamos equipo. Así nos fue despues.

@hectorjuandisanto4298

5 жыл бұрын

Argentina lo empató cuando quiso.

@cabjdavid

4 жыл бұрын

estaba que reventaba el estadio.

Franky wortho, franky wortho, hello, hello...RIP leicester legend

Very good video quality.

Eu amo Argentina 💙

what's funny about that penalty is there were two "fouls" - Hughes got tripped by his own teammate, which then led him to fall and scissor down Kempes. I think Hughes was frustrated by the fact he wasn't fully at fault. Right back is not where I'd have ever played him, btw.

@steveblack610

3 жыл бұрын

Teammate sticks a leg out but nowhere near touching Hughes.

nice footage !!!!

Kempes and Keegan were world class players; Kempes and Argentina would win the World Cup in 1978, Keegan wouldn’t get his chance to play in a World Cup until 1982. RIP Frank Worthington, this being one of only two games for England (out of 8 caps) where he scored. His passing was announced today, Mar 23, 2021. Another piece of British football history passes to the big green field in the sky (after losing Peter Lorimer earlier this week too.)

Mario Kempes - El Matador

England had excellent players in the mid-70's but 16 teams only qualified for the WC so '74 &' 78 resulted in DNQ. Really tough.

@nolan8336

4 жыл бұрын

@@kingkane1051unfairly eliminated???. How so??..Absolute Total Horseshit...They couldn't even qualify for both tournaments !!!.

@kennethhills6906

3 жыл бұрын

@@nolan8336 Moron

Kempes and ten more...

@lautarotripa2820

4 жыл бұрын

houseman, no lo podian parar los ingleses.,

I am surprised that England didn't qualify to '74 & '78 WCups. I was too young to remember this one but I remember the game in 1979 when they beat us 3-1. Great team. Maradona played incredibly that game also. It is a pleasure to watch those games now. And it was certainly more difficult to qualify to the World cup those days with only 16 teams.

When Wembley had atmosphere come to think of it when does any ground have atmosphere anymore? Old Trafford now is dreadful.

@jamesmcgrath578

3 жыл бұрын

Not much atmosphere at any grounds atm !

@staceygrove5976

3 жыл бұрын

All seaters: garbage!

Qué placer! Los inventores del fútbol (los piratas) versus nosotros los argentos. Qué maravilla el fútbol. Qué locura las guerras.

MARIO KEMPES , gran goleador , HOUSEMAN , GLARIA , el cordero TELCH , el mariscal PERFUMO , glorias del fútbol argentino.

Época en que la selección Argentina venía de fracasos tras fracasos (desorganización total) , hasta que agarró el timón el flaco Menotti, en éste partido hay que destacar al loco housemann y el matador Kempes.

Bit of a tragedy for England, this one. Judging by these highlights, they seem to have dominated the match.

@naranjacrunch

4 жыл бұрын

I'm from Argentina but i agree. We only had Kempes, a legend. He saved us

@pedrolistacarey4880

4 жыл бұрын

They were playing at home, so they had the obligation of winning....What hurt them most that Arg reached the final draw when the match was almost over, and through a silly penalty. That hurt like a defeat.

Exiting game for a friendly 👍I wonder if people still saw Argentina as the pantomime villains in 1974, years after the Ratin incident; in the same way that they were perceived after 1986.

@johnp515

Жыл бұрын

No not as much, this was before the Falklands war which added a lot of needle and before Argentina had won the WC so they were just another”dirty” South American team then

I noted someone wrote ‘criminal that Weller and Worthington weren’t awarded more caps.’ The answer was they played for an ‘unfashionable’ club at the time. Leicester had a good side then, Whitworth got a look in only, Shilton was just about established with England. The same followed years later; Lineker was only good enough on leaving City, as was Alan Smith, and latterly Chilwell and now Maddison. Heaven knows, if Vardy had left Leicester years ago, perhaps he would have challenged Kane’s England crown? It’s the establishment’s perception of ‘preferred’ players from ‘preferred’ clubs. Sadly this idea still exists.

Frankly doesn't realise how much he is LOVED, by so many, from Huddersfield to the end of the world he brought such happiness to a lot of people, oh, and really WELL DONE LECIESTER, BRILLIANT

The year after looked like another era with the new Admiral kit. I had one.

two players from Las Palmas back then, Brindisi and Carnevalli, then wolf and Morete would follow..that was the 70's, Las Palmas was a prominent team in Spain's La Liga now they're back to the top flight with homegrown talent like Roque Mesa, Johnatan Viera, Vicente, Jese..and Boateng and Lemos..Siempre UD Las Palmas!!!!

Keegan and Brooking in the pre-Admiral Kit

Peter Shilton's non penalty saving technique of the 1990 World Cup clearly in evidence here. Only diving to his left once Kempes' shot is virtually in the net. Did he ever save a penalty?

Wow, the skills, athleticism and tactics of that time are almost embarrassing compared to today. Also, isn't this the announcer who did the famous Germany-Greece philosopher's game seen elsewhere on YT? ;-)

pensar que 17 años después iba a volver a repetirse este resultado en el mismo escenario el mitico wembley

@adrianmussi5534

5 жыл бұрын

y paso lo mismo ganaba Inglaterra 2 a 0 ...

I realized in argentinian uniform i can t see AFA insignia. Was that normal in that time ? Donde esta la insignia de AFA en el uniforme de Argentina ?

@OlizerVanAntoninus

5 жыл бұрын

They didn't have AFA badge until Adidas kit in '77 for world cup the following year.

Channon k jugador Dios mío!!

No sabía que Kempes, jugaba el 74,con Argentina, cuántos años tenía?

@pedrolistacarey4880

5 жыл бұрын

19, creo, porque en el '75 hizo la colimba mientras jugaba en Rosario Central.

@ninoticias1791

4 жыл бұрын

Si tenía 19 años en un partido que jugó contra Holanda un amistoso perdimos 4 a uno ,y el gol lo hizo él en ese partido en vez de botines usaba unos botines que se asemejaban a sandalias tipo romanas, nunca más volviera con eso ya ningún otro jugador me quedó grabado Y eso quevhoy tengo casi 60, increíble....

England 1Peter Shilton 2Emlyn Hughes c) 3Alec Lindsay 4Colin Todd 5Dave Watson 6Colin Bell 7Kevin Keegan 8Micky Channon 9Frank Worthington 10Keith Weller 11Trevor Brooking Argentina 1Daniel Carnevali 2Rubén Glaria HT 3Roberto Perfumo (c) 4Ángel Bargas 5Francisco Sá 6Roberto Telch 7Agustín Balbuena 8Miguel Ángel Brindisi 67 ' 9Mario Kempes 10Carlos Squeo 11Rubén Ayala 12Enrique Wolff HT 13René Houseman

Eight years later England and Argentina went to war. Argentina was truly demoralized for World Cup 1982. Greetings from Germany...🍺

@andrematos3937

4 жыл бұрын

A Inglaterra fez um boa copa em 1982

je trouve que la façon de jouer des argentins n'a pas beaucoup changée malgré les années. Ce qui est surprenant, c'est la non titularisation de Kempes pendant la coupe du monde 74

Nothing controversial about that penalty - Hughes clearly took him down. Frankly with that, plus Shilton's shockingly poor goalkeeping that resulted in Kempes's goal, England gifted Argentina the draw. Performances of this quality are the reason why we failed to qualify for the World Cup that year. This period was roughly the beginning of our long, idiotic belief that the glory of 1966 meant we deserved to beat other teams. Thankfully, with our performance at the 2018 World Cup - with a young team clearly not bogged down with the ghosts of the past - we might just be starting to dig ourselves out of that hole. Here's hoping...

We had great players back then but AFA and clubs didn't care about the national team. Only organizing WC in 78 put pressure on AFA to avoid ridicule at home. Just in 74 alone the national team had 3 managers! An absolute mess!

Mr David Coleman!! 🙏⚽🙏⚽

Just imagine an international fixture at Wembley with an actual atmosphere and people cared .

Emlyn Hughes being his usual agreeable self, I notice.

@timrobinson100

5 жыл бұрын

your disrespectul he was like me a great patriot [ its not a crime

So weird to see Brooking with just his second cap not even over the ball for the free kick. Later on no one else would have been considered.

A far more talented England side than we have now - that team would have walked to the final.

@kailashpatel1706

6 жыл бұрын

Bravo!, England's failure to qualify for the 1974 and 1978 World Cup clouds the fact the teams of the 1970s (and the 1980s) were superior as teams and players...(it was much harder to qualify in the 1970s...

@brianoreilly239

4 жыл бұрын

You've got to be joking, look at the England play in that game against Argentina, it was workmanlke and pretty predictable. They wouldn't have lived with Holland nor 74 WC winners West Germany in the finals.

4 жыл бұрын

All long balls. 1950's football.

Fantastic Match !

What was Hughes doing?

Shilton was not great at saving penalties. Great commentary from David Coleman (RIP) he was and still the best British TV football commentator.

RIP Frank Worthington and Colin Bell

@OlizerVanAntoninus

Жыл бұрын

Emlyn Hughes also long dead. Seemed a decent bloke.

RIP Franky.

This is going to be a semi if not the final of this coming 2018 WC

I didn't know about that match. Great quality of image. Good players and horrible fans (exactly the same if it was played in Argentina)

My first visit to Wembley , with the school , as a starry eyed 16 year old . Pity they didn't show the half time fight between Emlyn Huges and a couple of Argentine players

@pedrolistacarey4880

4 жыл бұрын

Because it never existed...!

Kempes beutefuĺ football.....matador

RIP Frank Worthington..

Joyita de video

Kempes Houseman great side

We'd not long had the Poland WC 1-1 draw and the fervour that engulfed that game, this was just the same. I don't know if it's just Dave's commentary 'lilt' here, but we seemed to fall into a black hole from 73' until we qualified for the '82 World cup. I often wonder if the sardonic splendour of England's footy squad wallowing in defeats contributed to everyone buggering off on strike in the mid-1970's.

y cuál fué la controversia?

3:14 Worthington, well killed not well controlled..... Probably also said well executed instead of excellent goal.... Commentator was probably in the military ww2.

Is Shelton..the goalkeper...the same Shelton of Maradona's Mexico 86??

@modernmonstersrock2040

Жыл бұрын

Shilton ....sorry...

@johnp515

Жыл бұрын

Yes it is the same Shilton

La diferencia de estatura es descomunal Pareciera que los ingleses están jugando con niños de jardín de infante..

@fxx1

4 жыл бұрын

cierto.

Good pen.

Argentina es el futbol

6:26 I didn’t know England didn’t make it to 1974 WC

Perfumo, Telch, Houseman, Chazarreta, Balbuena, todos fallecidos .

Muchos petisos chiquitos en la defensa, todo lo contrario a lo que hay que hacer; los ingleses pasaban como querían. Pocos meses después Menotti tomaba el cargo e iniciaba la entrada de la Argentina en el fútbol moderno, organizándolo y dándole una idea de juego.

Shilton.... ya jugaba?????

Los arbitros eran mas mayores que ahora

Stone wall pen, nothing controversial about it.

Blatant penalty. Why are the English going mad about the decision? Penalty all day long, even in '74.

Amunt València cf i Amunt KEMPES !

Esse goleiro da Inglaterra mesmo da Inglaterra da copa de 1990?