I'm a bio/engineer. I started as an engineer and my employer wanted someone in my department to study biology to help develop life support systems, so I volunteered to study biology. After taking basic biology and I found the field of evolutionary theory rather mixed up and full of opinions of what sounded like imaginative stories. Then I read Stephen J. Gould and Niles Eldredge and the reasons for their Punctuated Equilibria and thought what the Hell? Whales evolving in far to short a time, now down to 7-8 million years, was 10 million. Then I met Lynn Margulis and her Endosymbiosis Hypothesis she was ridiculed for by Neo-Darwinist dogmatists. She had a poor view of Neo-Darwinism. I intrigued her with my view of seeing life organisms as engineered and that no natural process that could be proven to engineer by aimless randomness. Most complex natural processes are heat exchange from cooling crystals to hurricanes and tornadoes and gravity making solar systems and galaxies. No natural process even comes close to making the simplest prokaryote life form. You can argue about Who the Engineer is, but there was an Engineer.

@DrGeorgeAntonios

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Well said.

@sparkyy0007

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Great post. I design chemical plant systems and I can tell you this with no uncertainty, nothing good happens in a chemical plant by accident, and all life forms are chemical plants.

@joelebert9767

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Very insightful. You take away engineering from biology, you take the heart of biology.

@MountainFisher

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@@joelebert9767 My feelings from the beginning. I use a house metaphor when they speak of finding the building blocks of Life in meteorites and on other planets. Not to mention the Miller-Urey experiment they have not advanced from. Just the ingredients for building bricks and the mortar that holds them together, just mud, sand and silt, but they have yet to find a brick. No enzymes, I searched and find references to enzymes on a meteorite and it always ends up being amino acids not enzymes. No proteins, no complex carbohydrates, things that appear to maybe be the base that a hydrogenase may grow from etc. etc. ad nauseum. When you strip away the rhetoric they always find mud, but no bricks.

@sparkyy0007

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@@MountainFisher They are trying to make bricks without straw again....

When they did the CGI for Lord of the rings, they didn’t design lots of different orks but one Ork model that could vary in certain traits of height, colour, facial characteristics etc. That way you got an army which looked ‘natural’. Variation was programmed in, within limits.

I'm at a weird place in my life. Because of everything I've learned, thanks in part to ministries like these, I find my self having to believe very little. To me the evidence is overwhelming. To the point that I feel silly even considering the other options. Thank you so much !

@mrshankerbillletmein491

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I believe if you ask jesus to reveal Himself to you He will, the intellect only takes you so far, You remind me of me forty years ago the evidence was enough to cry out to God if you are there please show me. Be sure you can go the distance.

@voiceofreason162

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< Weird place solver. Click the face. Goto About. Begin the unscramble. Blessings.

@jaydenwilson9522

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@@mrshankerbillletmein491 “My favourite definition of an intellectual: 'Someone who has been educated beyond his/her intelligence. ― Arthur C. Clarke, 3001: The Final Odyssey

@mrshankerbillletmein491

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@@jaydenwilson9522 I will use that, thanks

Great show...shows a side of adaptation I hadn't understood very well before. This is a show to catch regularly.

Excellent work to all involved! You know.. it's funny that critics of Intelligent Design will try to misrepresent it as unscientific. In fact, it is far more successful (by the scientific criterion of making predictions that are confirmed by empirical data), than any of the proposed mechanisms for Darwinian evolution has ever been!

@josephfenech9037

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​@@lizadowning4389 It's pretty much the topic of the whole video, especially from 6 minutes onwards, and it is even explained in those specific terms (of testable predictions) at several points.. but I can give a very brief overview. Basically, a Darwinian model (natural selection acting on random mutations) would make the prediction that because of said random mutations, the biological variation of organisms would necessarily have to be random as well, which natural selection can then act upon. Hence, you would not expect to see repeated instances of the same changes or adaptations occurring independently in different populations of the same species, or even in different species, even if they are (independently) exposed to the same conditions. On the other hand, a Design model would predict that there are specific constraints on the way in which organisms will vary in response to certain environmental challenges, such that you will see certain designs and structures emerge repeatedly and independently, not only in separate populations of the same species, but even in completely different species. This is particularly compelling when you see such variations develop at multiple points in the fossil record, in a way which seems to coincide with engineering principles which we apply when designing our own machines (note where the 4-bar linkages were being discussed towards the end). In light of the above, what we see, both in the fossil record, and in studying variation of species over a relatively short timespan (refer to the discussion about cichlids) lines up better with the predictions based on a Design hypothesis than the ones based on a random unguided mutation + natural selection (aka Darwinian) hypothesis. Hope this helps. Have a nice day.

This answers the elephant in the room. Chaos is not convenient. Random is not convenient. But looking at reality, nature conveniently provides what creatures need consistently. Isn't that convenient?? Yet evolutionists will stand on their heads that it is a matter of luck.

Very interesting episode.

You have all heard the question; which came first the chicken or the egg ? The truth reveals that the chicken came first not the egg ! So "life" was broth into being fully formed as fully functional organisms with on top of this the incredible means to reproduce ! And when reproducing and only then does a process begin from the cellular level ! You need first the fully functional organism with the body plan (DNA). My point is People and scientists have misused this model of reproduction from cellular levels (small to big) and forced it on their imaginations of how life "began" ! And they have misused the fact that small unicellular life exist, and used this as their starting point ! These unicellular "cells" don't have body plans (DNA) other then their own ! And can only reproduce the exact same plan ! There is NO mechanism that creates new DNA information, period, nothing ! And there cannot even be such a mechanism, because mechanized means without intelligence ! And creating a new body with new body parts from a unicellular "cell" cannot be mechanized, it takes intelligence, will, intent, desire, plan, creativity, etc.. And it never happened cause this is not how "life" began or appeared ! There was never any need to go from small to big or from less complex to more complex, or from a species to a different species ! The only place this is intentionally used is in reproduction period ! And adaptation was never a means, adaptation is limited and already inside individual species, it is in the genes already but never transforms into another species. And new DNA is never created, genes that are already there get activated, it is already part of the plan ! And it as it's predetermined limits ! All adaptation does is it stimulates or activates "useful" variety inside a species, like thicker fur when needed etc. All part of the plan, the body plan, as written by the planner !

@bobdalton2062

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Nice intelligent summary

I think it is helpful to categorise Variation- design taken from a DNA pool which is twice the size of the inherited DNA Adaptation - the inbuilt mechanism to change to fit an situation, tanning to protect from sun, skin thickening to protect bare feet, muscle building to cope with muscle usage. This would include epigenetic inheritance. Mutations- the variation given by DNA copy errors, mostly harmful.

Would appreciate literature citations for the articles he alluded to pass along to others. That always strengthens an argument for my friends.

Is there a way to watch the conference?

youtube is a VIDEO platform. Why no wideo?

ID is the concept thats is going to be taught in Universities in the world.. Sure. As BigBang was not accepted in the begining so is about ID.

@frogmanant

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Big Bang is now being questioned😇

@alanmcbride6658

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All 'settled' science is being questioned. All mainstream scientific ideas need to be scrutinized. Of course the mainstream take umbrage at the audacity of such skepticism Such is life.. That's how science\knowledge advances, by asking questions. Of course insecure Materialists fight tooth and nail against such scrutiny. Truth rocks. Truth will prevail. The light of knowledge will banish the darkness of ignorance.

Thanks. I enjoyed the discussion.

*_Intention_* seems to be the basis of all *_evolution._* Of course, there was an intelligence behind the design, but the system itself (life) is not built on random, hit-or-miss accidents. Life *_senses_* a path toward survival and intends to go there, modifying its own programming code to achieve that intent. A vine can sense, at a distance, that a pole exists and that it has been moved, so changes its direction of growth to meet the new target (The Secret Life of Plants). Mice on one side of the planet learn a maze at one slow pace, but members of the same species, on the other side of the planet, learn the same maze in a far faster rate. This suggests that the entire species learns as one, on some fundamental level, sensing the "design" of survival and broadcasting that intelligence to all similar forms so they can all utilize that new intelligence. Thus, *_evolution_* seems to have a built-in intelligence. But *_Origin of Life_* required a far greater level of intelligence to get started -- almost like a Maxwell's Demon to keep the "accidental" ingredients pure and non-decaying while other "accidental" ingredients are formed and moved into position long enough to achieve the first level of *_pre-Life._* After six or seven such levels, this demanding assembly project required *_intelligent_* code (DNA) to make this engineering marvel start on its own, to allow it to self-replicate, and to give it the tools to manage its own self-programming in order to achieve *_Intended Evolution (I.E.)._* 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯 *_Could it be that each species occupies its own fractal space (fractional dimension)? And through this uniquely coded, physical interface, can contact all members of the same species in order to Solve an impending threat?_* This could explain why dozens of different plant species evolved, in parallel, to create a *_New Structure_* for CO2 acquisition some 40M years ago (C4).

Seriously? I wrote a 500 page unpublished book 25 years ago debunking evolution. I updated it in early 2000s adding internet citations. Never finished because I just figured preaching to the choir. I talked about what he talks about with humans. What he calls "natural phynomigical changes," I had to make up a word for and called morphilogical changes with humans. We all know this to be true. You feed kids proper nutrients, they grow taller for instance. I even cited examples from Darwin's descent of man, such as wisdom teeth, which even at the time they knew were based on diet, not anything based along by inherentence. You eat a refined, processed diet, your jaw will not grow to be robust and you don't have enough space to fit wisdom teeth and crowds other teeth. In other words, in his day, it was a first world problem. Darwin changed it to where we adapted to our current diet, rather than eating unhealthy. We actually had to start adding nutrients to bread and foods that we stripped away. Look up the "disease" known as pellagra. Also no one got an inflamed appendix before this diet was invented, because we all got enough fiber. I posited that high altitude societies changes in humans may be similar morphilogical changes rather than genetic, such as larger lung capacity and more capillaries to distribute oxygen.

Casey: is your voice too loud compared to Brian's? Also it seems you aren't participating in the conversation but reading from a script. The topics sounds v interesting; should be expanded to a pamphlet/book.

Hi Guys, I think what Charles Darwin was actually seeing on the Galapagos islands was actually adaptation of species rather than biological EVOLUTION as such or at least what is theorised as an evolutionary change from one species to another - given the exceptionally long timeframes evolutionists assign [rather arbitrarily] to be needed to evolve one form of life into another. I really don't think that fairy tale of simple life forms evolving from the oceans by moving onto dry land and then becoming apes which then come out of the trees or wherever and begin to stand erect and form the animal basis from what humans were eventually become in the modern age, i.e. homo Sapiens - is even logical - let alone credible - given the latest discoveries in DNA structures and modern genetics. I think the whole evolutionary tale needs to be either revised or recognized for being the scam for ORIGINS of life on Earth - that it seems to be. IF anyone cannot see the intricate designs prevalent throughout the natural world and that Life on Earth seems to have been engineered to a very great and totally awesome degree - then that individual or group of individuals - are indeed looking at the world and all life on Earth through dark Glasses* and cannot see the forest for the trees - as the old anecdote goes. Everywhere I look in nature I can't help but see an awesome design by an awesome biological engineer - not evolutionary fantasies. * 'When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.' [I Corinthians 13:11-12 KJV]

@jameswbuchananjr

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Amen. The Bible wins again.

@jameswbuchananjr

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@@lizadowning4389 so why, since 1859, have we been unable to find even one of those simple basic designs (missing links) Even if there were only 10 gradual changes between each evolved kind, and there are one million kinds, that would be 10 million right there. After well over 100 years, where ate they?

@soloman9151

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@@lizadowning4389 Hi Liza, I take it that you believe the evolutionary tale to at least some degree. Well, quite a few churches in the modern age have attempted to do so as well by compromising what is actually written and thus recorded for humanity's future posterity in the Hebrew/English bible and have attempted to fit millions of years into the book of Genesis' opening chapters in Genesis 1 between verses 1 and 2 because apparently they also can't credit that the biblical times lines and genealogies presented there are actually as short as they indeed appear to be. The reasons they attempt to meld the modern scientific [basically, evolutionary] worldview model into the biblical worldview - which argues for a much - younger Earth, of only several thousand years existence instead are not exactly clear. IF there really were any 'intermediate steps' then your reasoning would indeed be sound. The assumption being - by most - is that those intermediate steps do or at one point did exist over millions of years - but there's no actual empirical evidence that is indeed the case. Assumption, is not scientific reasoning however - because it's one thing to devise an alternate worldview to the biblical worldview [ which unfortunately is the case with evolutionary thought being so popularly accepted in today's world/age] but it's quite another to prove that assumption - beyond a reasonable doubt. It all depends on one's perception of the world and how it got to be this way with evolution so widely and popularly accepted as being true - which includes the whole box and dice so to speak - of the Big Bang theory [Not the TV series 😉] as being true also - for the otherwise unexplained and indeed unfathomable existence of the universe without a creator/designer. And, further, it depends on how open minded you might really be regarding other's viewpoints that aren't yours. For example, I could never quite equate the biblical accounts with the scientific evolutionary worldview and did indeed think that others in the religious world were not quite right in their thinking on origins of humanity on this Earth or even the Earth itself as many perceive it to have started off in antiquity. More recently, however, although I'm not a member of this particular religious group that I'm going to give you a reference to check out [ although I hold some different views to theirs ] by giving you a link to one of my favourite presentations of theirs - regarding the origin of Dinosaurs and their belief - which is also now mine - that Dinosaurs did indeed exist after Noah's flood [ reportedly no more than 5000 years ago according to biblical geneology] and that Dinosaurs were indeed coexistent with modern homosapiens. There does indeed seem to be quite a lot of actual Empirical evidence to Support the 'Answers in Genesis' group's overall beliefs that the Bible is the infallible record of God's word[s] to humanity about both origins and continued future existence of humanity- on this current Earth - for at least another 1000 years. I could quote biblical prophetic references to show humanity's continued existence on Earth - despite all the fears of an ELE catastrophe or Extinction Level Event predicted by some in scientific circles and indeed - some in religious circles as well - but that would be tedious for you I should think. So here are a couple of links to YT videos I've viewed from my KZread viewing history featuring the scientific views of an ELE - that I'll end with the Answers in Genesis group's presentation for comparison because if one part of the bible can be proven to be true - then most likely All of it is - as unacceptable to some that might conclusion might be: A totally negative view by a serious scientist of humanity's continued existence on Earth: "Humans will be extinct by 2026" - 'doom and gloom prophet' Prof McPherson on abrupt climate change 95,948 views Jan 20, 2023 After the BizNews interviews with Dr Judith Curry, Professor William Happer and Dr John Christy, all of whom share the conviction that the Earth is, in fact, not in the throes of a climate crisis, BizNews sought out a voice on the opposing side of the climate change debate. Professor Guy McPherson, a leading global voice on abrupt climate change leading to near-term human extinction, believes that humans will be extinct by 2026. In this interview, he explains the basis of this damning prediction. Climate science is anything but settled. kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZHV_j7FumKypqKg.html&ab_channel=BizNewsTv ---- An interesting past world view and warning of a disastrous/cataclysmic future by a Geologist/scientist of Earth's relatively recent past history [since he and others continue to assume but is also still hooked on the millions of years of the evolutionary tale/worldview to quite a degree] that has studied astrophysics as well: Robert Schoch: Our Civilization is a Restart || 5 October 2022 366,180 views Oct 5, 2022 #göbeklitepe #sphinx #cappadocia Robert Schoch: Our Civilization is a Restart || 5 October 2022 ------------------------------------------ In the early 1990s, Dr Robert Schoch was able to confirm John Anthony West’s theory that the Great Sphinx must be much older than the fourth Egyptian dynasty, judging from the visible water weathering (there was more, but this was the crucial ”smoking gun”). The huge sculpture must have been there during the wet African period, which ended long before the dynastic Egyptians. kzread.info/dash/bejne/p5WquKmrpaa7qcY.html&ab_channel=MindtheShift ----- IF this last presentation can be proven to be true - then humanity's continued existence on Earth for at least the next 1000 years is assured BY biblical prophecy. [Revelation 20:1-8] Does the Bible Talk about Dinosaurs? 1,642,894 views Streamed live on Jul 12, 2018 Dragons and Dinosaurs! Few things ignite our imagination the way these mysterious creatures do! But what is the truth behind the legends? Were dragons real? When did dinosaurs actually roam the earth? Are they mentioned in the Bible? Second Corinthians 10:5 tells us to, “demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ”. Come and see how when we build our thinking on the foundation of God’s Word we have answers to these questions and more! kzread.info/dash/bejne/i2xk2ap_n7zYorQ.html&ab_channel=AnswersinGenesis Needless to say, I tend to agree with the last worldview. 😉🤔🤨🙃