Thanks for taking the time to do this and sticking with your experiences. You definitely have some conditions in the PNW very unlike what we have in MN

What an outstanding video, extremely professional, to the point and what a great communicator! Sensational job... Love the IRC 33S, extremely great tire here in the Southwest, nice to see it's doing great in the PNW.

Kudos on your enduro tire breakdown, IMO one of the best I have listened to in the past 5 years. Personally I ride mostly soft and hard enduro on my Sherco 300 SE and I ride ID, CO, UT and AZ most every year so terrain wise I have some experience with a variety of tires over the years. Rarely do I agree much with any 'enduro tire' study due to bias, and the numerous variabilities that exist in the enduro world, from riders personal enduro experience in a vast variety of terrain, difference in enduro bikes, riders ability, riders technique...tire spinner, tubliss system, tubes or mousses, and one of the most important tire pressures, endless. We are blessed to live in an era where about all of the enduro bikes and enduro tires available to us today are light years better than 20 years ago, ENJOY!

For our sharp rocks and sandy stuff in New Mexico the XT 454 has been the best in terms of performance and life. The AT81 EX is a little grip piece but doesn't last as long. Definitely give the 454 a shot

Great topic! EVERYONE is always looking for the best tire to help there riding! Great vid

Love the VE33S. That’s what I keep using.

Great Review! Love hearing your thoughts. We agreed on all parts, including thoughts on the M5B... it's technically made for sand haha! Thanks for the great video

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Love your vids! 👍

Nice video. Thanks for sharing

Props for showing Bolt killing it and Walker sucking wind! Great review.

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

JW22 seems like a much nicer guy than Bolt, but Bolt’s vlogs are more entertaining.

I'm from WA and ride a lot of the same stuff you guys do. So many good tire choices out right now. I have been down in SoCal all winter chasing the sun and riding different stuff. I currently mounted up some new model Motoz (MXI) which is their MX tire but I like them for off road. Really impressed with the front and like the rear a lot too. Totally different terrain and conditions here. Will be interesting to see how they work in the PNW this summer. BTW the Shinko 525 cheater is one of my favorites ha ha ha. Like Golden Tyre too but paying the Golden price means I don't run them much. When you ride a ton you need acceptable tire prices and longevity.

Great breakdown, one of the best I’ve seen! I agree with you on all points except for the Tusk Talon. I ran it back to back with a JX8 and a VE33s in a variety of Appalachian terrain and found it significantly lacking in both overall grip and predictability. It was also pretty much shot in about 10 hours for me.

@OtisFlint

3 ай бұрын

I just put one on my KX450 and i don't think it's going to be long for this world.

@vegasrider05

3 ай бұрын

I got around 20 hours out of mine. Northeast dirt and roots. Not as rocky as other places.

I have had a couple AT81EX so far and really liked the sidewall at low air pressure. Trying a VE33s currently, so far working well on mixed PNW conditions.

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

Can’t go wrong with either of those tires.

Nice breakdown! I like the AT81EX best in Montana. I ride mostly dry rock and it just hooks up. I tried the JX8 and the stiffer carcass just seems to deflect more than the EX and I feel like the EX has a little more grip. I really like the Kenda Ibex as well and it is better in softer stuff. That might be more up your alley. It will chunk if you spin a lot though. I also like the VE33S, and as mentioned it lasts forever, but does give up a little traction. I hate the 525 Cheater as well. Carcass is too stiff and makes install a lot harder. I haven't tried the Michelin as I just don't like the FIM knob height. Wish they made Starcross 5 or 6 Soft/Int pattern with the Xtreme compound.

when i ran the michelin extreme it was amazing. holds up surprisingly well in turns and lasts forever. i got like 25 hours out of mine granted i run my tires until i absolutely feel i cant use them anymore. i agree its not great in the soft stuff but i would say thats its only downfall. high speed or slow speed it worked great for me. if it wasnt for the JX8 and the price it would be my favorite. To me the jx8 and michelin extreme are so close and jx8 is way cheaper. the at81ex is a good tire but i notice i get punctures really easily. the ibex i feel it doesnt handle well in the turns and the knobs just chunk right off. the shinko cheater is heavy and when it comes to any wet rocks or roots it just doesnt grip at all. good video.

Awesome vid man! AT81EX and VE33S for me but I might give the Talon a go for the price alone! Tried searching with no luck yet but: Have you done a front tire review by chance?

@WASemiHardEnduro

11 күн бұрын

Yup check my channel for a front tire review.

Tried a few different “gummy” tires; so far I’m loving the kenda ibex. Mines even seen quite a bit of black top. Mines been on since last august. I don’t spin much lol.

I see you got the MOTOZ Mountain Hybrid as an F. I use one in the summertime for the single track woods stuff in central WA and think it does very well. Low pressure, feels cushy.

I have had cheap Tusk tires and expensive tires. 12 different tires at least twice, so l could be sure of how they worked and how they lasted. I am from now on going to spend the money, and get the AT81 . It works great everywhere and actually lasts as long or longer than any other tire.

Great review. Do you plan to do the same for front? Michelin Medium, GT216AA, X31, MX34, etc? Not looking for fatty tires but a really good front for wet slick rocks and roots in PNW forest single track. I know I hate the std AT81 which comes stock on many bikes.

@WASemiHardEnduro

Ай бұрын

I already did a front tire vid, check it out on my channel.

Good video! I've ran all of those except the 525. The AT81ex is definitely the best out of all of them for performance. It doesn't last as long as the others, but the performance is great. Now....if u want one tire to rule them all, try the Mitas XT-754. It is my all time favorite and the only tire I will run from fall to spring. Then, when we hit summer months, it's the Mitas EH-07 140. Motas tires for the win. It's gonna be hard for me to want to try any other. Give them a shot!

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

Still waiting for the new ones to come stateside!

@ridgerunnersmc1414

3 ай бұрын

@WASemiHardEnduro I just got another one that Trailbound Chris found from one of his suppliers! So now I got another new one sitting on my shelf! He said the new xt should be off the container by the end of this month.

@andrewhennigar8932

3 ай бұрын

Mitas 754 is fantastic, and if you can get one the XT946 winter tire is even better for any and all conditions

Great vid and comparison. Just getting ready to mount up the Tusk Talon for the first time. Been running 220 Ride semi-gummy or IRC VE33S for a long time now. Shame you haven't tried the 220 Ride. It gives up just a little bit to the VE33S except in one area, drive in the sand. Since I ride in the Sonoran dessert sand performance is an important criteria in my tires. My standard is 500 singletrack miles without grip falling off a cliff. If it can do that it's a great tire. I don't think the Talon will last that long nor do nearly as good in the sand as the 220 Ride or VE33S but I thought I would give it a shot especially at it's price point. Noticed on your list the Goldentyre GT333. Tried that one, hated it. That thing was horrible for my terrain and the carcass failed (cracked through at the edge of a knob and couldn't be plugged) while running 8psi with Tubliss.

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

220 Ride doesn't have any rear tires right now, sounds like they're retooling them. The Talon def. won't perform as well in sand, but should hook up a little better on slick rocks/roots than the VE33S. The Talon is a good tire at a great price, but others outperform it.

IRC M5b Evo is the ultimate tire for where I ride.... Sand, Mud, Gravel and Soft Loam. That is why it is such a popular tire!!!!

I juat ordered in some artrax cheap stucky gummy tires! 140s an xc and an s3 full reviews to come! Love the tusk talon had like 500+ miles on mine before i sliced it open on a piece of metal 🤣, the jx8 is a good tire has just a little more bight everywhere over the tusk but the tisk hamdles amd holds up better at speeds. Then the jx8, also really love the kenda equalibrium, ill be doing a full review video on my tusk, and on those artrax tirez.

Really curious on the MotoZ Arenacross Gummy and the Mountian Hybrid Extreme Gummy vs these tires

@WASemiHardEnduro

Ай бұрын

IMO they're too expensive to even bother with. Plenty of good, proven tires that cost far less. The Mountain Hybrid I've tried (non-BFM) was one of the worst tires I've ever run. All the drawbacks of a trials-tread pattern, none of the benefits. I've heard the Arena Hybrid is decent, but nobody seems to really rave about it.

Im in aus and ride everything from hard enduro to hare scramble and even 100mph gravel roads. I love the ve33 (i run the "VE33R" as they dont bring the "VE33S" into Aus. However given that my riding isnt exclusive to hard single track i find it's probably better suited anyway. I run ultra heavy duty tubes, tube saddles and about 10psi rear and 12psi front (ive not had a great time with tubliss) havent tried mooses yet.

Like Montana_Motorized mentioned below, I highly suggest trying the Kenda Ibex K774 120/100-18. One of my best buds was telling me I needed to use it for like 3 seasons and I just kept trying everything else lol. Finally broke down and got one and I tell you what, it's shocking how well it works! So good that I haven't tried anything else since. One thing to mention though, it's no good if you're a serious tire spinner. PNW (Northern Idaho/Eastern Washington) rider for terrain reference 👍

@jonathoncatterson8901

Күн бұрын

Good tire but the knobs fall off too easy. Try an at 81ex or jx8. Same grip without the knobs ripping off

Have you ever tried the Motoz Hybrid? I had it on my 250FX back in the day and that with Tubliss just hooked up and was durable.

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

Yup and I hated it. I give it an F. All the drawbacks of a trials tire with none of the benefits.

@tassiejeeper01

3 ай бұрын

​@@WASemiHardEndurohave you tried the "extreme hybrid" I run that on my new TM Because it's registered, (I ride everything from high speed to hard enduro) and feel it's a step down from the ve33 in the snottier terrain however corners better at speed especially on gravel roads (the ve33's weakness imo. Wanting to source some motards for it in the future so I can go back to the ve33.

i never got on with the rear enduro medium (old compound). It was good it rocky/rooty but sucked so bad in mud, as you said, which in the UK for enduro (non-hard) is the predominant feature. I also found it lacking in lateral grip when at speed. The front enduro medium, however, is my go to. Zero complaints. For predominantly muddy courses, I preferred the XT 754 SL on the rear. Good in mud and the soft compound (softest of the 3) made it ok in tech. The red-stripe (hardest compound) sucks really hard in tech. Because the XT754 is hard to get in the UK (amongst other tyres in recent years), i'm trying out the Gripper enduro tyre this weekend. Shockingly easy to fit (i barely had to use tools) and very soft. If i don't get on with that, i'm going to try Plews Enduro tyre or Rebel's one. Or finally try out the Starcross 6 which gets raved about a fair bit in the UK for non-hard enduro. I'm just not keen on using MX based tyres going on prior experience.

@WASemiHardEnduro

Ай бұрын

I’m running the Plews Tough One right now. It’s very similar to the Michelin Xtrem, maybe a bit more grip is softer terrain. They’re coming out with a tall-knob version soon which will be interesting. I also want to try the latest from Mitas - XT EX, and the XT MH double green look interesting. I need a tire sponsor!

Agreed on the M5b. Thoughts on the Kenda Knarly? Tire of choice around here these days.

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

I’m kinda sour on FIM-approved tires, so the Knarly won’t be high on my list of tires to try.

@Madtigertv

3 ай бұрын

The Knarly does really well on the "hawaiian ice" red clay out here. Something not alot of tires can do well. Ive found it to last longer then IRC/81ex by a lot. Works well even wih rounded edges, 2 way tire *pref the less aggressive side. Ive had my race saved by running a JX8. I got a huge rip on my sidewall that didnt puncture. If it were a Ix09 or similiar my race would have been done on the spot. Ended up top 5. Love that tire too. rials tires been ran out here for years. Those work well out here too Dunlop 803 etc.Last you months too lol @@WASemiHardEnduro

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I've been waiting for someone to do a video on different brand tires as inclusive as yours. Most everyone just does vids on one or two tires at a time of the same brand, that they didn't necessarily pay for. I love how you compared the different brands, along with their respective handling traits. I'm over here in Idaho with a lot of desert and mountains, and riding a lot of both. I don't like the idea of spending my retirement checks on something that's not going to work out. This video definitely fills in many of those gaps. Now would you consider doing, or giving any front and rear tire recommendations for doing the BDR on a KTM 890 Adventure R? Thanks again.

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! I haven't done any adventure riding, so unfortunately I don't have any recommendations for you, but check out @dorkintheroad 's youtube channel - he does a ton of DBR riding.

I’m experimenting this spring with the “Euro” tire setup of a 140/80-18 with FIM knobs. I’ve chatted with a few guys over there and they say they like the FIM knobs because it doesn’t squirm on rocks or over roots. I dunno. Usually I run JX8 here in PA, but I’m giving the Kenda Knarly 140/80-18 a shot. It’s a “true” 140 and uses the bigger size Nitromousse 325 over the JX8 / VE33S 305 size mousse. The Euro bros told me they run the 140s with one size down 120 mousse. I’m going to try it with the “correct” size mousse first and see what it feels like.

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

Lmk your thoughts once you run it!

@richardhague3455

3 ай бұрын

Defo try the 120 mousse. I use 140 Michelin medium with 120 mousse and love it.

@lostinpa-dadenduro7555

3 ай бұрын

@@richardhague3455 Ok. I’ll try it all. 😀👍 Just snowed here though. 😢 I thought we were set for an early start this year. I’ve been using the 90/100 Michelin enduro medium front the last two years and love it. This spring I’m trying the X-Grip 90/100-18 Hulky Boy standard compound. It measures the same rubber hardness as the Michelin Enduro Medium front. Not too soft, not too hard. It has just a bit taller profile. I got an X-Grip standard mousse to go with it. Feels pretty much like the standard Nitromousse.

@stevenllewellyn8906

2 ай бұрын

@@lostinpa-dadenduro7555you racing TLR or Sugarloaf this year?

@lostinpa-dadenduro7555

2 ай бұрын

@@stevenllewellyn8906 I’m thinking about the scramble at Sugarloaf. I’m sure I won’t get far if it’s really hot out, 😂 but it would be fun to see the place and ride as far as I can.

Have you reviewed the Dunlop MX34 Geomax? I live in Central Oregon and high desert. Volcanic silt, glacier rock and hard pack desert. Since you are in the PNW thought Id throw that one out there. Thinking about getting some

@WASemiHardEnduro

2 ай бұрын

Sounds like that or the new AT82 would work well for you. It's too wet/slick/slimy here for me to try a non-gummy tire.

@jonathoncatterson8901

Күн бұрын

​@WASemiHardEnduro a lot of the ameeicanhard enduro guys are running the dunlop mx34 front. Hopefully you do a review on it

Does anyone know where to find an updated list of tires by tire weight? I'm working off a decent list but it seems a bit old. I'm trying to source the lightest tires I can find in both 18/21 and 16/19 for my Surron Light Bee.

@jonathoncatterson8901

Күн бұрын

Dont know weights but i do know the jx8 is super light out of a few gummy tires ive tried

I have 60 hours on my AT81, and it's shot, but its been great.

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

On the EX? 60 is unheard of. On a regular AT81? Then I’m sorry you suffered for so long.

The problem with the 140’s is the knob height sucks. Maxis are the same. My favourite long lasting and best traction rear tire is the Kenda Trackmaster 2. Dot road rated also! Favourite front tire Shinko fatty. Lots of rocky terrain up here in north eastern Ontario. I run heavy duty tubes and 12 psi front and 8 psi rear. No pinch flats in over 4000 rocky gnarly kms!

Give x-grip a try, my fav tires so far for pnw

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

X-Grip is interesting for sure - I like that it has taller knobs than a typical 140 FIM tire.

Curious where you'd slot the Tusk Recon. I think it competes with the 525 but lighter.

@WASemiHardEnduro

2 ай бұрын

Recon isn’t really a gummy is my understanding. Not sure it can compete with these kinds of tires.

@mei-tb6og

2 ай бұрын

Oh? I assumed they were since it was in rmatv hybrid buyers guide. They had it lined up with the ve33s and the cheater 525.

What are your favorite DOT tires? I’m about to plate my bike in Colorado.

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

Hard to beat the GT216/GT333 for dot-legal pure dirt performance.

@RichPlakas

3 ай бұрын

​@@WASemiHardEndurojust installed this setup for a dual sport trip

How many hours do you put on each tire? I live in the desert and only get 10-15 hours max out of my rear tires.

@WASemiHardEnduro

15 күн бұрын

I usually pull them at 15hrs. Some still have plenty of life left, some don’t. I just like having fresh tires.

honestly i ride desert and that michelin has been my favorite rear for desert woods sand anything it just hooks up despite the little knobs, not to mention it lasts me around 500 hard miles of trail and desert hill climbs, also comparing the m5b evo to the other gummies is comparing apples to oranges

@WASemiHardEnduro

Ай бұрын

You get 500mi out of the Xtrem? That’s impressive. And yeah I know the M5B isn’t even in the same category, but people still seem to run it in conditions it’s not made for. 🤷‍♂️

Try Goldentyre 333 gummy. I have compared to most the tires you have tested. My favorite and performs well in soft terrain for gummy

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

It’s on my list at the end. Gave it a C 😂. It’s too expensive and too hard to find.

@travdirtbikejunkie

3 ай бұрын

@@WASemiHardEnduro I can't disagree it is expensive and hard to find. However I can run one 2x long as JX8 so cost is not as big of a factor. I just buy 3 at a time when they are available to always have one around

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

Correction, I gave it a "B" 😉. I DO like it, but I didn't think it was any better than the AT81EX or JX8. It's also strangely tall for a 110, which isn't always a bad thing (more sidewall is good), but being not super tall myself, I noticed the impact the 333NX had on height of the bike and handling.

The M5B only really shines in the desert sand/ muddy conditions

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

Agreed. It’s an amazing hillclimb and soft terrain tire that is pretty ok everywhere else. But watch out on slimy rocks and roots!

Utah riding... Tusk Talon falls off from the honeymoon stage in less than 10 hours but stays solid from 10-30 hours. Then it's worn down and out. The VE33S is easily a 40 hour tire. haven't experienced a dramatic fall off on performance. The lugs look like they are gonna rip off but haven't. Shinko 505 was a 40 hour tire. Maybe a little fall off in performance but held up well. Probably going to run the ve33s again.

@WASemiHardEnduro

Ай бұрын

That's been my experience. The VE33S maybe loses a little "bite" once those sharp edges get rounded, but 40hrs no problem. The Talon drops off for sure at 10. Decent dry grip though, but the Talon can't match the JX8 in the wet.

If you ride slow and allways looking for full traction the shinko 525 is great in all terrain.our whole riding group is allmost exclusively on 525s weve tried a lot of others .get around 60hours on a 120

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

If only it was 20% lighter, and still $60 like it used to be 😂

Its very simmilar to jx8 or acrually vice versa because irc took a tally of alllllll the tires being used at each hard enduro over the last 3 to 5 years. At least all the ones that i was at anyways. Im sure they were seeing what people were using most and who was usuing what where. At that time, the tire of choice was the at81 ex as the Michelin enduro extreme was not a thing yet. The ve33s is also very similar in performance characteristics and looks to the extreme as well. Difference being, in my opinion, is the Michelin rubber compound

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

I think Michelin has one of, if not the best compounds, held back by a shitty tread pattern. Their use of silica in the compound goes back decades, and it works wonders on their street bike tires in cold, wet weather (exactly where we dirtbikes need traction the most).

@tjpighin

3 ай бұрын

@WASemiHardEnduro totally agree. Pretty wild the bench test, I would never think it's as special as it is till ya take it into the wild. Haha, it's crazy good when it's crazy good

Why no Mitas Terra Force single or double greens in your comparison ?

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

Expensive and FIM. Mitas is a mid tire in the EU, but for some reason they are crazy expensive in the US. The XT754 looks interesting, but it’s discontinued and I’m waiting for its replacement to come to the states so I can try it.

@chevman383

3 ай бұрын

@@WASemiHardEnduroI don’t rate the Xt754, the upright knobs lack off camber grip. I really hope you get to try a Mitas TF double green 👍

I feel you'll do more environmental damage with short knobbs since you cant hook up. Then you'll end up spinning, throwing dirt.

@WASemiHardEnduro

11 күн бұрын

Exactly. It's a stupid rule.

Are you running Tusk Talon Hybrid or Conventional Tusk Talon?

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

I believe there’s only 1: a hybrid, that comes in a 110 or 120. At least that’s what RMATV’s website shows. There’s a Recon, which isn’t a hybrid, and I’m not interested in trying that one.

@stoplogicmotorsports

3 ай бұрын

​@@WASemiHardEndurothe recon is nowhere near as good. I'm waiting to Roach mine out

I dont understand why the 525 was popular. Really one of the worst ive used. 505 is much better even in soft conditions. Snow is the only place the 525 was better.

@pnwoodzz

2 ай бұрын

Think about what competitors existed when the 525 came out, it hung out in a league of its own for a bit during covid, rmatv could have it at your door in 2 days for -100, they also really gave guys the confidence to change tires at home because of its soft nature, and quite frankly, it JFW'd. But competition has caught up and Tusk is doing what Tusk does best, rip off the very products they use to draw people to their website lol

Try the michelin starcross 5. I know it's not as grippy as the gummy tires, but it is lighter and better performing than the ve33 imo.

@seamarsh3756

3 ай бұрын

med or soft?

@EricKammerzelt

3 ай бұрын

@@seamarsh3756 soft

Metzeler extra soft simply the best!

Kenda Ibex is my favorite here on Vancouver Island

@jonathoncatterson8901

Күн бұрын

Try the at81ex or jx8. Similar grip and the knobs wont break off. Im just on the other side of the water from you

@husaislander4838

Күн бұрын

@@jonathoncatterson8901 i have tried both my second fav is the JX8. Summer i like the Ve33s

Any idea about EN91 EX?

@WASemiHardEnduro

Ай бұрын

I'm hearing that it's very similar to the Michelin Xtrem - meaning it's great for roots, slick rocks, riverbeds, but not so great in anything loose or soft.

@rehepeks

Ай бұрын

@@WASemiHardEnduro Ok. Im on a Kenda Ibex at the moment. Would have bought another one but the 120 size has pretty limited availability and its around 145eur in a couple shops where its in stock so decided to try something cheaper. Have an EX91 EX on the way. I guess I should have gone with 81. Usually doing some slow riding on logs, roots etc but occasionally end up in loose sand aswell.

Kenda knarly?

@WASemiHardEnduro

11 күн бұрын

Not a huge fan of FIM tires.

Where I live and ride in the high Sierra mountains of California the kenda equilibrium at about 4psi is amazing.

Bridgestone EX50 is by far the best hard enduro tyre

AT 81 all the way, and all the models of it ! Ride every week , and go through tires, so l was using cheap tires, but was only getting 10 hours or less out of them. The AT 81 works better everywhere and lasts me about 15 hours . You get what you pay for l guess.

Hated the ve33s!! Best tires ive run are the Bridgestone e50 extreme and the Kenda Knarly 140.

@lostinpa-dadenduro7555

3 ай бұрын

I’m trying the Knarly 140 for this spring. Got it installed. It’s pretty much as soft as the JX8 I usually use.

@middleageddirtscooter7883

3 ай бұрын

@@lostinpa-dadenduro7555 if its muddy run the tire backwards. Itll act more like a scoop tire. Works pretty well.

@liamjenkins6848

3 ай бұрын

Agreed, E50X is the best tyre by far. It’s legit cheating

I'm sorry but you are very wrong with short knobs being crap! once you start running super low pressures long knobs simply fold over and do not grip. run the medium compound in softer conditions. I also reccomend cutting a tire in half to see the internal casing structure too. As the Higher grade tires have a different structure.

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

I'm just relaying my experience. No gummy tire is ideal in mud or sand because the knobs squirm and fold, but taller-knob gummies in MY experience work better in softer conditions without giving up any hard-terrain performance. FIM knob height is an arbitrary restriction - case in point: if a tire isn't FIM-approved, it has taller knobs - clearly the manufacturers realize that taller knobs are better (at least taller than 13mm). The Xtrem is still a great tire and it works really well. I think it would work even better across a wider variety of conditions if it had 15-16mm knobs. Oh and it needs to be 33% less expensive.

Thanks for not voting the ve33s and m5b in the S tier . Got to keep those prices low . I agree with your assessment of the ve33s but I ride the same trails you do in the PNW and the M5B with 2 lbs of pressure is hard to beat . One tire you didn’t mention is the shinko 520DC the inner is gummy and the sides are hard and firm sidewall . Hence the dual compound. The cheater is trash the 520 dc is right with the ve33s .

@mack73

3 ай бұрын

Agree on this. Friend grabbed the 520 DC and he loves it, might have a slight advantage over the VE33S that I run if you are a spinner

I won't bother with an fim spec tire. I don't plan on entering races where I'd need it. I don't think spinning with short knobs is better than digging and moving with regular knobs.

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

That was my first and last FIM tire.

Dude, wrt the first tire, a michenin - first you say nothing performed better on wet rocks or roots. Then you say you can get tires that performs twice as good. You might consider taking blanket statements OUT, and replace with : this michelin is untouchable in wet, slippery rocks or roots, sucks in loose stuff, and....sand- Never mentioned. Also SIDE BITE. NO ONE COMMENTS ON SIDE BITE!!! SO, I GIVE THE REVIEW A "2" OVERALL.

Hey buddy, just so ya know, that’s the Michelin medium, not the extreme… the gummy version is the ‘extreme’.

@WASemiHardEnduro

Ай бұрын

Wrong. I definitely have the Xtrem.

@jamesleath9482

Ай бұрын

@@WASemiHardEnduro 10-4. The tread pattern is the exact same as their medium (which is a great all around tire), hence the confusion on my end. Give the Bridgestone battlecross E50 extreme a try sometime, you may like it.

M5B evoooooooo

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

If it's warm and dry, then sure!

The tire the hard enduro pros run may have the same name but they are not the same compound. They are made for extreme performance and only used one time. Those ones are not sold to the public.

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

Do you have proof of this claim, cuz I don’t buy it. There are plenty of “insiders” who say that the Xtrem is the exact tire they use. It’s expensive because it’s hand made, and they sell out frequently from the race teams buying them in huge lots.

@PNWEnduro

3 ай бұрын

@@WASemiHardEnduro No proof, just what I've been told.

@nseric1233

3 ай бұрын

I think they run the same tire that's sold to the public but they have special mousses. I'd like to see them, billy bolt has to run 3 rim locks to keep his rear tire on the rim because it's so soft.

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

Plenty of vlogs from the pros talks about their mousse setup - JW likes to drill his then runs it in practice to get to the feel he likes for a race. Lot of the guys do the same (drill or shave them, then run it a bit to break them down before a race).

@steves5632

3 ай бұрын

They get paid to run them and yes they are different from what we get.

Ive tried the ve33s,ve33,jx8,talon,recon,m5b, xt454,at81,at81EX, trak master II, tech 2 pro, 525 cheater,x30, desert IT. My favorite for utah terrain were grip is my only concern the at81EX wins. For good grip and long life the mitas xt454, last almost 2x as the at81EX. The talon is very close to the traction of the jx8 but 60% of the ability to stop. Recon was similar, good drive but bad braking.

3:04 that's FIM 13mm knob for you. It's not the rubber or the design. FIM tires suck. They're an equalizer, an arbitrary limitation to keep things interesting. I cringe when guys drop $160 on a tire that "Jarvis runs." They ignore common sense and basic physics for a marketing pitch.

FIM is so stupid !

@WASemiHardEnduro

3 ай бұрын

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