Check out the instructional video from Little Wars TV to learn how we played the game: kzread.info/dash/bejne/dqOembefY9S3kdI.html

On the note of "minimal troops holding" I recall a game of Lord of the Rings tabletop I played where a single gondorian bowman held against 6 orcs in melee for several rounds until the orc lines broke and he was relieved. I marked that guy's base after ward and he got a special paintjob.

@Terrkas0

2 жыл бұрын

I had something similar in confrontation. My troop of orcs annihilated my opponent but the last remaining crossbower of my opponent held of the 6 remaining orcs in melee and killed 3 before he went down.

@Grubnar

2 жыл бұрын

In a game of Warhammer 40.000 a lone Space Marine sergeant, after watching his squad get butchered, fought off, and routed TWO mobs of Orkz! He was literally 1 against 20 ... and he won! I was playing as the Orkz, but after the battle I insisted that nameless Sargent be given a name and a promotion. He is now Veteran sergeant Rafael of the Blood Angels Chapter!

@Ilikefinalfantasy795

2 жыл бұрын

@@Terrkas0 The blood of Numenor flows strong!

@Terrkas0

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ilikefinalfantasy795 The setting was confrontation. And the crossbower part of the faction "alchemists of dirz". Basically some kind of mad scientist cult with battledrugs and biomutants with augmentations. I think further of from some noble men is barely possible in that setting.

@likeorasgod

2 жыл бұрын

Reminds me one of the first big battles I did in Battletech. I had a mech unit with some stingers and a few medium mecs that was suppose to be the scouts for the main small force against a much larger. Well I position my 4 stingers at the two bridges that enter the city we are defending. The other player brought his two lances to it at the same time and asked what the tonnage of the bridges where. I took note and when the assualt mechs stopped on them I asked again, "What was the tonnage of those bridge." I had both stingers at each bridge fire at the bridges and that caused it to loose support and the two assaults mechs crashed down into the revine and without jump jets they where dead. That turned the fight quickly as it equaled out the tonnage.

Chose this for one simple reason: The only strategic advantage you can't regain is men willing to fight for the cause

@thomast8539

2 жыл бұрын

It is a sad conundrum that men who went into battle and fell, never knew the outcomes of the battle, other battles, their war and the impact of their ultimate sacrifices. Only those who survived and those who came after get to marvel over the myriad of details in their efforts. Well, at least as far as Earthly observers go since none of us can speak for those now beyond.

@matthiuskoenig3378

2 жыл бұрын

It's funny I chose the other option for the same reasons. Hoping to trade space for men's lives. I thought this option would result in sullievan retreating too late and green getting caught up in it too.

31 Years old and I never seen anything like this I want to know more about this game board culture

@mrs6968

2 жыл бұрын

@TheKnowerseeker thank you yet I only want history

@mrs6968

2 жыл бұрын

@TheKnowerseeker I was thinking that might be the case yet I'm not a fan of d&d personally

@mrs6968

2 жыл бұрын

@@WargamesTonightnever thought of that online search thankyou

@jeffbrewer8810

2 жыл бұрын

Run while you can! You’ll go broke and fill your home with hordes of unpainted miniatures if you continue with this unhealthy curiosity. Run! Run I say!

@DH.2016

2 жыл бұрын

To start, I recommend you go to Little Wars TV channel on KZread, starting with their video, "A Quick History of War-games."

Despite knowing the intention was to protect the road to philly I chose this option as I determined that so long as the bulk of the army survived we could march on the british while they marched on philly. They might get there first but I’ll take a a chance city fight in a friendly city

@Chrischi3TutorialLPs

2 жыл бұрын

Funnily enough, i actually had the same thoughts choosing retreat. Keep men, lose land. You can reconquer land, but if all my units die, yeah. I guess i overestimated the risk of the entire continental army being encircled.

@matthiuskoenig3378

2 жыл бұрын

Same, I feared green would be too save sullievan to save him if sullievan was told to hold and only get encircled themselves, and I thought sullievan would be able to fall back better with Washington's support.

@satchelraidincoming636

2 жыл бұрын

@@Chrischi3TutorialLPs I had the same thought, but a different conclusion. Throwing away Sullivan's forces, I feared, would leave to few men to defend Philly.

It is possible to read about it until your eyes water, but seeing it before you, and experiencing how the passage of time, and individual leadership and the courage of the men can play a huge part in the battle, gives a much better understanding of how things did, and could have unfolded. After watching this, I must agree with the historian, the Americans fought well, and although it was a defeat, it was no humiliation! Greetings from Iceland.

If the indigenous force doesn't lose, it wins. Never risk the army, Gen. Garry! Let the French do it!

I love how you did this 3 part war game video with being able to choose orders. It was a lot of fun to watch you roll the dice and see the possible alternative outcomes. Please do more like this!

As a direct descendant of Gen. Wayne, I'm saddened to hear the fate of my Grandpa happened here on the battlefield of Brandywine Creek in the early part of his illustrious career as a military officer and commander. Fortunately, this happened on a table top map and could be reset for another round of battle and Grandpa could live again.

@nicolasknape4289

2 жыл бұрын

cap

@gabrieldeoliveira8304

2 жыл бұрын

Grandpa? How old are you, if you don’t mind me asking?

@dauntless0711

2 жыл бұрын

He did die a hero though, besting British Grenadiers with Colonial Militia.

@generalbooger9146

Жыл бұрын

Alexander the Great is my dad.

This is actually very engaging. I used to play Warhammer, and I've played some other table top war games (and Microprose FOG!) and this looks awesome. I know it was fun to make, but thanks for making it!

I picked this option, not because I liked it but because you can't not reinforce an army when they are getting hammered like that. I watched the other video after this and the outcome was pretty much what I expected.

Absolutely great game. I've never seen historical wargaming. Gentleman's game. I greet you from the Czech Republic

The sound pulled from The Patriot really adds a nice touch to this.

I've played Civil War , WW 2 naval and sailing ships using wooden ships and Iron men miniatures, and WW 2 ground minitures for years

ground can be retaken but men cannot...

I was entertained. This is the last thing I thought I can say about relation from the wargame. I see that players not only love history but also loves their country.

Both did and didn't play out as I'd hoped. Didn't quite save the more solid troops I'd been hoping for, and lost Wayne, but still did manage to get a decent number of Sullivan's out of there.

My Grandad Pyle always insisted we were related to General Wayne . As a miniature gamer of over forty years I applaud this series! Way to go! This should increase interest in our hobby AND history! ( member of H.M.G.S.Great Lakes )

@jamesrichardvankliff9262

2 жыл бұрын

2nd commentator claiming to be a relative of Wayne, wtf?

@wargame2play

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesrichardvankliff9262 haven’t done any deep genealogy yet, but it IS a family ledge legend.

I picked this one because I thought only greene falling back would of been a horrible maneuver, I will watch the other part to see what happens, I was curious as to a possible 3rd option of a full fall back to regroup

I'd be the guy there hammering beers and falling into the war tables.

1:38 The fact that he had his cap on his chest. Pure gold.

Fantastic. Do it again!

This was so amazing!!!!!!!!!! Bravo all of you

What a great vid, story and the choice at the end was brilliant. Subscribed!

This series is awesome.

After choosing this option and out of curiosity looking at option two I'm glad I chose to reinforce and save majority of the army as a result instead of loosing almost half of it. Yes it cost a general and some of the best troops we had but we live to fight another day and kept the fight alive as a result.

@Wilsontripplets

2 жыл бұрын

This is the best outcome you could hope for when being out matched. Losing 1 general and 1 division while the rest remain almost perfectly intact means those inexpirenced troops got forged in fire and became steel.

Awesome guys! I chose wisely!

This was amazing

Can I just say: I chose this option because as overcommitted as they were with the flank in the makings, its was rendezvous or die, but I was so proud to see the Penn Irregulars crush it going up that hill in heavy tree cover. I feel like the dice reflected what the statistics did not. These were irregulars, FROM THIS PLACE, and in heavy cover against the bright red garments of the grenadier corps we picked off a commander and spooked the brits into allowing our brothers to save the army. Because you do not F with a hillbilly in his hills lest you want an F in chat.

Brilliant , thanks

I want more of these.

I chose the other option save Philly and the Army.Great game

How ironic the general Wayne Inn is just down a ways from there.

Lov3d this. I chose the other option first and lost. Had to watch this video outcome. This looks like lots of fun and it’s a great way to showcase table top strategy games and gain insight into a major historical event.

Bravo!

I may need to get into wargames now this looks amazing

@coffinskoffin4942

2 жыл бұрын

Do it!

enjoyed this.

Excellent cooperation. I would love to have something like the American Battlefield Trust in Germany.

My first exposure to this style of gaming was at a model/hobby fair at the fairgrounds in Oklahoma City. I watched the grognards slug it out with French and British troops for four hours while my parents wandered the rest of the fair, checking up on me periodically. I was mesmerized. How did it ultimately affect me? I now run a game shop and I still love every minute of it.

Picked the other ending following Green's advice of "fight get beat, rise and fight again." A bit of a bait and switch in the choice phrasing. This choice was listed as "support Sullivan" implying a Camden style all out fight to the end, risking the whole army, as opposed to the Dilworth option of a retreat. Turns out this ending was about a retreat too.

Picked this choice to avoid a defeat in detail scenario. Pretty interesting how it turned out.

I chose this option because this is exactly how I would of done it myself. Mainly I'm the type of person that would hold the line at all cost. Even if my efforts are pointless. I'd definitely make my opponent suffer, lose, and grinding fight for every inch of the battlefield. Even if my opponent wins it will be at a severe cost and loss of their army. That's my tactics I use when I play any table top miniature war game. It's like one time when I was playing Warhammer 40k years ago. At the end of the game I lost but my opponent's dead pile was nearly as big as mine. I looked at my opponent and said something like *"looking at the size of your dead pile I still count that as a win for me".*

@JoeXTheXJuggalo1

2 жыл бұрын

@@williambodin5359 Ah yes Pyrrhus of Epirus. I wasn't just meaning it like that. I'm also meaning I'm determined and stubborn. Even when the battle is lost and i know it and my opponent can clearly see his victory in sight. I still fight on and never give up. I've won that way too because my opponent got tired of still playing the game against me even though we both know who the outcome of the battle. I remember when my cousin got me into 40k he kick my butt literally 20+ times in a row. Than when I got enough money to get extra models and got to know my army better I took out his HQ in round 2 he automatically gave up event though he still had a majority of his army and he started to complain my army is OP (after he done beat me 20+ times in a row). I even technically won by a friend's sheer stupidity. He had fist turn, we played a few turns, than when we got to round 3 or 4 he did his turn than said "I got to go,l be somewhere. good game". He thinks that he won due to game points and all that but what he doesn't know is that he technically surrendered and he also cheated by him going first and also doing 1 more turn before quitting. That's how he had more points than me.

@JoeXTheXJuggalo1

2 жыл бұрын

@@williambodin5359 I know right. I started playing roughly 12-13 years ago in 5th edition. My cousin was into them since the 90s with his cousin around the entire Squats era. I still think it's was complete bull they completely wiped and entire army out like that. It's like saying "hey I know you spent all that money on this product of ours but you can no longer use it". I haven't played since late 7th because of life but also the virus popped about when I was getting ready to get back because I was playing the wait game on my army codex. When it finally came a couple few months after that the virus got blown up by social media and the news and a few months after that 9th edition cane out during the whole virus time.

Good play, I enjoyed watching. The thought i can't seem to shake though is why fight like that. When going up against a superior force, hit and run tactics combined with light troops to demoralize them while refusing to meet them in an open field until they are beaten and you are just delivering the coup de grace. Although I can sympathize that Philadelphia was only 30 miles away. It got me thinking of other tactics, though I rarely like the idea of spreading my initial forces so thin especially without any reserves. Considering the americans were mostly militia they really need to make the most out of their natural defenses and force multipliers that they can.

@theshadowling1

2 жыл бұрын

Trying to co-ordinate those sort of movements, especially with militia is a nightmare. Trying to do hit and run when you aren't in 100% friendly territory means your roving bands run the risk of getting massacred by overwhealming numbers. Guerilla warfare only worked in the Peninsular war when the French were under threat by the British Army, allowing the Spanish irregulars to roam without being hunted down by larger groups of troops, rather than cavalry patrols

@finaladvance5085

2 жыл бұрын

Plus you have to remember rifles at that time were incredibly unreliable. In perfect weather 4/5 of your rifles would missfire. Less than perfect weather made the numbers worst And rifling wasn’t widely used (not sure if even invented yet) so bullets pretty much never went straight. It’s actually why they lined up. Not to make an easier target but to make a literal wall of bullets flung to your enemy. Also with smoke from the rifles any hiding place was immediately revealed

@Darklight689

2 жыл бұрын

@@finaladvance5085 That number seems awfully high, to the point where I dont think muskets would have replaced the bow and crossbow if only 20% of your weapons would actually fire. Did you mean 20% would misfire because thats quite the misfire chance already.

@Darklight689

2 жыл бұрын

@@theshadowling1 The militia at the time did have homefield advantage during the american revolution. Which is a big advantage, couple that with hiding among the population or whatnot, it seems like you have a solid shot. It's more the whole style of warfare at the time. I cannot fathom why you would fight like you still were using spears and shields. Speaking of, how did the british have a better lay of the land than the locals?

@theshadowling1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Darklight689 Because the british had far better relations with appalachian tribes. The treaties the British had honoured with the tribes were a source of discontent with the colonists. Add to this that the revolutionaries were not 100% of the colonists, there was a large minority of loyalists in the 13 colonies, fighting a hit-and-run war becomes nearly impossible to pull off. Remember, the British were not an "invading army", a good number of the troops at the start of the war were the standing garrison of the frontier of the 13 colonies.

Our Wetpowder Club did Brandywine battle a while back and the Americans deployed at two crossings to prevent the Brits from crossing easily - the Brit acted like they were attacking at those two crossings and we shot those Brits we could ? The Americans had formed a "reserve" of a couple regiments and would not commit them early ( because we knew the history ) - when the Brits showed up on our right flank we had the "reserve" to commit over there to slow them down ! The Brits still across the creek NOW renewed the attacks more heavily and our defenders both started falling back down the road to Philly - we lost more overall than the Brits did but we were able to save our army because we knew the "history" of the battle !

Whenever I hear brandywine I think of The Lord Of The Rings because in the first movie/book the hobbits cross the brandywine creek or something

No man left behind!

No Waynesboro Virginia Sad. Good game Guys.

interesting how this is the better outcome, though this one gave a lot of turns that wasn't obvious to me at least, luck always being a fickle thing

I took that option and i'm glad I did. Never leave your troops behind.

Looks to me like reinforcing was the right call to make. we did lose the best of the troops but the army was still intact for the most part and could be saved with nightfall. neither result was necessarily good. but it seems reinforcing was the better of the two at least.

I wonder, I initially choose to defend the road to Phily as that seemed to have the highest chances of fixing at least one good outcome. In this scenario I'm guessing the death of the British commander in the south lead to the British not being able to secure Dilworth which would have meant the entire Continental army present at Brandywine would be surrounded (or at least forced to retreat cross-country rather than along solid roads). Kinda feels to me that the southern's secondary objective (primary being locking southern continentals in their position) would be the capture of Dilworth which would have gone ahead under less competent command if the commander died. Loved these videos!

@michaelsmart1577

2 жыл бұрын

that's what i thought would have happened as well if Greene supported Sullivan was that the British would simply march to Dilworth first and cut of the line of retreat. I think if Grey didn't die that would have been the outcome but as luck had it the opposite happened.

I chose to support Sullivan bit did have the thought couldn't both have retreated? In the real battle why didn't the armies use the town's as cover to fire from?

Picked this one yes you risk total defeat but otherwise you lose close to half your army anyway. Now I have to go see how the other choice turned out.

The redcoats general wears a red shirt ;-)

HIGH GROUND

I have that exact set of green dice with copper pips.

I chose the other one thinking it would result in this. I thought ensuring there was a solid base for the troops to fall back to would ensure most troops would survive. I guess I misheard and didn't know that sullivan couldn't get out. The graphic made me think sullivan could retreat and that what they really needed was cover to fall back to.

Just give it a year-Von Steuben will arrive and put the Continentals through a distilled Prussian manual of arms tailored just for them. Very likely many of the sergeants he picked for his model company were battle tested here.

This is great. I love the minis. What was game called again? And do they have their own miniature line?

I choose this option because you should never divide your army.

Yes! This is the one I picked!

War is for the brave....and you don't abandon men that's what lead me to make this choice.

how to buy?

I love Garry

Is the cotton for a game related purpose or just aesthetic?

@KrisWustrow

2 жыл бұрын

it shows the smoke from musket or cannon fire

@themanwithallthewrongopini3551

2 жыл бұрын

I think it’s to signify that the troops are actively engaged in combat

@lancepickett5653

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not familiar with this set of rules, but at a minimum in large scale battles it helps keep track of which units have fired. I have seen rules that as smoke builds the effectiveness of fire can be affected, and others that give advantage to the ability to disengage as well. When developing rules one gives bias to what they feel important in the recreation / reenactment.

This was my first choice.

Day 2 battle should be a sequel since the day 1 battle was not complete victory.

The only casulties in this outcome was 1 general and 1 division granted the best one but almost no major casulties.

Uh, this video is no longer unlisted... Is there a problem?

Good to see that there are still some loyal Americans ;-)

Going forward, it would be beneficial to your audience to draw them in with a few items. I think it would help to spur their interest in the real history, plus draw them into your games instead of leaving us as simply observers. Perhaps you could include a short blurb on a couple of the leaders in these battles and the units that fought and how they really fared. You could edit these in near the beginning of the video. And, at the conclusion, give us your statistics on the outcome of the game. Let us know how the leaders performed and which units held, broke and casualties. BTW, it is nice that you already take opinions from your viewers, just adding in some observations.

3:39 looks to be a little bit of bud, left side, in the dice tray lol

I voted for this

I hope this works

Fak retreat. get em bois

did I make the right choice?

ok now do the Horus Heresy.

Durka durka gatand

I was watching this video with my wife, and it made me laugh when she turned to me and said "That music is from 'The Patriot'." She's right but still... Proved I married the right woman. 🤣😂🤣

Is it bad i chose this option becuse I hoped the British would win

"Division of Grenadiers" ????????

I chose wrong

this way this finish is more a result from luck than anything else. also there isn't a half option. This could have ended easily with the fallback hill taken by brits and no retreat option

Now, people might think that THIS was the "right" decision compared to the other ending, but what if Howe hadn't died? What if his grenadiers had pinned Sullivan, giving the british time to encircle Washington's army and wiping the rebels off the face of the earth? Think of the history documentaries made in our time, calling Washington a "bumbling fool" who "should have retreated when he had the chance".

Retreat is dumb, were here to battle, Im glad these modern patriots slapped up those limeys even better than Washingtons first attempt. Great hat General!

Honestly... after the death of british general, it is a bit stupid.. they have junior officers whou could take command... imo it would be best then to split forces in half.... take one half to pursue americans that went to help and the other to go around and attack from the road to phily

@michaelsmart1577

2 жыл бұрын

that i do agree with, the British would have had another officer who should have been able to continue the fight after grey died. Yes a morale hit would have been taken by the force due to his death but the objective to get to Dilworth would have been quite easy for them to do even on low-medium morale and put the Americans on the back foot again after winning through to Sullivan.

@EliteJax4180

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelsmart1577 The only issue is that while that certain officer could take command, there are several officers who have the capability to command, and others that do not. And with the politics of the British at the time, that new officer would most likely, instead, head straight to Philadelphia in order to gain honor and fame for himself. Also, you have to consider the exhaustion, organization, and safety of couriers. The Grenadiers, after already suffering a major loss and having low morale are, in terms of organization, scattered and broken. They have little support, have lost their commanding officer, and are still under assault by the American militia. There are many more issues to deal with other than just combat readiness.

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