ECM Rushing in PAYDAY 3: is it still possible...?

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In PAYDAY 3, the ECM Jammers work in a completely new and different way, compared to PAYDAY 2. Within this new system, is ECM Rushing still possible?
The fastest way to rush the Dirty Ice heist: easy completions to farm infamies, and also decent for Weapon XP. Done with minimum loot for fastest times.
As for how the new ECMs work: rather than blocking pagers, cameras, and calls, they simply slow down the speed at which pagers expire, and cameras detect you. It feels very different from PAYDAY 2 ECM Rushing because it's not just about placing the ECMs and sprinting through everything, but it still has the same feeling of coordinated roles, full speed, and some ECMs at the end for the point of no return.
➽ TIME STAMPS:
0:00 → Introduction: the new ECMs.
0:40 → Dirty Ice strategy.
2:26 → 3-man variation.
4:20 → Checking the whiteboard code from outside.
4:50 → VIP code run, slowest RNG.
6:35 → End screen!
➽ DISCORD: / discord
➽ STEAM GROUP & GROUP CHAT: steamcommunity.com/groups/Mar...
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➽ MY STEALTH BUILD: • [PAYDAY 2] Best stealt...
➽ BEST PERK DECK FOR STEALTH: • [PAYDAY 2] Hacker perk...
➽ SAW STEALTH BUILD: • [PAYDAY 2] The saw exp...
➽ PLAYLISTS? Check out my PAYDAY 2 playlists here! / marcmb
➤ Ultimate Stealth Guides (all heists): • Ultimate Stealth Guides
➤ Mythbusting: • Mythbusting
➤ Advanced stealth concepts explained in detail: • More stealth guides (a...
➤ ECM rushes from start to finish (4-6 minutes): • More ECM rushes, from ...
➤ Best heists for farming (XP, money...): • Best heists for farming
➤ Counterfeit full stealth, and stealth printing: • Counterfeit full steal...
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➤ Random PAYDAY2 Facts: • Random PAYDAY2 Facts
➤ Solo Infamy Farming: • Solo Infamy Farming
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#PAYDAY3 #Marcmb #ECMrush
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Special thanks to h3ll, Dyrax, Twits, and Fun, for their help in testing these strategies, and figuring out the new ECM Rush basics!
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Recorded with: OBS
Edited with: Vegas Pro 18.0
Game version: Sept 19th, 2023 patch (Release version)

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  • @Marcmb
    @Marcmb8 ай бұрын

    Oops it seems my pinned comment vanished, so I'll type it again here! All runs are obviously done on fresh seeds, no RNG abuse to check codes ahead of time. If you would like to learn this optimized strategy, here are the PoVs from the other players! Also join our Discord, to find crews to spam this and other rushes :D ○ h3llcruizzer (alleyway QR): kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZYZ-tppvn6bYnbw.html ○ ThisIsFun (employee code + open VIP room): kzread.info/dash/bejne/gH2ItsiEp8zahNI.html ○ Twits (check whiteboard code): kzread.info/dash/bejne/haCXzaVwj5DHqbQ.html

  • @MartinSK44

    @MartinSK44

    8 ай бұрын

    Yay! The comment got into custody i guess :steamhappy:

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    @@MartinSK44 💀The old pinned comment returned so now there's two of them. Ew!

  • @CsubAzUrmedve
    @CsubAzUrmedve8 ай бұрын

    So basically unless there is this very specific situation, ECM is next to useless.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    That is correct yup! The only situation where ECMs are useful is when the entire crew agrees that the plan is to ECM Rush a heist. In regular stealth, the gadget is absolutely useless (which is nice, considering they were so OP in PAYDAY 2...).

  • @yol_n

    @yol_n

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb if they were like the hacker perk deck instead of the 30s ecm deployable I think it would be fine

  • @kelesbeta
    @kelesbeta8 ай бұрын

    Happy to see PAYDAY 3 content from you! Thank you for all of Payday 2!

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you so much Keles, and glad you've been enjoying the PAYDAY 2 content all this time! There is so much content to explore in PAYDAY 3, that I'm gonna be busy for quite a while :p I'll still continue re-visiting PAYDAY 2 though, because I'm still addicted to infamy grinding, and stealth in general!

  • @icy_spice

    @icy_spice

    8 ай бұрын

    ​​​@@MarcmbI am old player and came back to Payday 2 (I quit after Hoxton BO and minigun came out). I watched your Solo infamy farm videos already and now have a problem farming offshore money. Can you share the best one for solo-stealth player? 3 of them would be gladful. (I now run Murky Station, Diamond Store, Ukrainian Job and Shackleton Auction atm) PS. If the heist is not DLC, it would be good. I have only a bit of DLC.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    @@icy_spice Hey again IcySpice! Welcome back to PAYDAY 2, and glad to hear the XP farming videos are being helpful. As for offshore money farming, Big Oil is an amazing choice if you're playing solo: the base payout is more than 18M, which is huge for a quick solo heist (with 3 bots for the loud part; see my guide for details). Highest difficulty of course: DS is ideal if it shows up on CrimeNET, because then you avoid the offshore buyout cost of 3.5M. Bring a SAW to DAY1 because there are a lot of ATMs in the basement: there are so many, in fact, that looting the last one goes beyond the "LOOSE CASH" limit set by the game, giving you the maximum amount you can get from any heist. First World Bank is extremely easy and pays 7.5M. The following options are also great, but all DLC, so you might have only some of these: Big Bank and Scarface (both all loot) also reach the ~16M payout. Alesso pays 13M and is full stealth. The Diamond (minimum loot) is quick and pays 8M. If you have a 2-4 player team who enjoys rushing, you can also go for Shadow Raid: aim for maximum loot (rather than fastest XP), and don't forget the armor for maximum cash. Easy ~20M in a quick rush too. Finally, if you want some more variety and you have a 4-player team, you can rush Border Crossing too, for a ~40-50M cash reward (but takes much longer than Shadow Raid).

  • @icy_spice

    @icy_spice

    8 ай бұрын

    ​​@@MarcmbThank you for your reply! I think Big oil is good, too. But because last time I went loud and spent hours on it cause I dont know how to solve the riddle on the second day (and got lucky that the correct engine was the last one...). Still traumatized from that 🤣🤣🤣 I will try to master Diamond and First World Bank. My brain is not quite capable of remembering location and map 😅😅😅 Thank you again!

  • @theunofficialcollector
    @theunofficialcollector8 ай бұрын

    the only youtuber that actually do the full run without pre checking the code unlike others. thumbs up

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks Sam! Glad you liked this aspect of the runs :) I'll never understand why people like pre-checking the codes, because then the run takes much longer overall, since you have to do it twice...

  • @dooderman8361
    @dooderman83618 ай бұрын

    Let’s go I’ve been anticipating marcmb payday 3 content since the pd2 stealth guides were my favourite, really good tutorials and helped me out a ton! With how different stealth is in pd3 I imagine we won’t be getting the exact same type of videos cause stealth is so dynamic and immersive now most people are more likely to just be able to play it without needing a full in depth guide but I’d sure love to see maybe some tips/tricks for some of the heist

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    It's finally here Dooder! Glad you've been enjoying the PAYDAY 2 content, and happy to hear the guides have been helpful. As you say, stealth is now a lot more versatile and forgiving (especially in non-secure areas), but I'll definitely still make one guide for each of the heists! Focusing on the important details, at least :)

  • @cursed_light4912
    @cursed_light49128 ай бұрын

    Since i found you some months ago your stealth content has been my favorite!! So glad to see you doing it in payday 3 :3

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    That's great to hear Cursed_Light, thank you very much! Hopefully my PAYDAY 3 content will be entertaining as well :D

  • @captainmacmillan8238
    @captainmacmillan82388 ай бұрын

    Hi Marc glad you’re back with payday 3 content and absolutely love previous videos. I’d love to see stealth tutorials like your payday 2 format in the future :)

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much MacMillan! Glad you've been enjoying the content. I have plans to upload stealth guides for all heists (starting with NRFTW in ~2-3 uploads), and for now my top priority is to be able to upload more often, like I used to do a few months ago!

  • @captainmacmillan8238

    @captainmacmillan8238

    8 ай бұрын

    Thant’s great to hear! Keep up the good work and I’m looking forward to seeing the future content :)

  • @geograymon55
    @geograymon558 ай бұрын

    I find ECMs are bit useless when compared to the alternatives. Hidden cams are always a solid option to keep eyes on a specific area or a guard's route, tripwires are good for passively keeping tabs on guards, and stun mines can stall guards. Slower cam detection and pagers doesn't seem worth it by comparison.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Absolutely yup! If you're going to _stealth,_ the utility of the Spycams or the Motion Sensor is infinitely superior. ECMs are only good if the entire crew agrees that the goal of the lobby is _not to play sneaky, but to ECM rush,_ and in this situation their use is still quite limited, simply extending the final part of the heist slightly to be able to finish in stealth (for quick completion challenges). But of course, the entire strategy needs to be coordinated, and everyone must bring ECMs to stack the effect.

  • @geograymon55

    @geograymon55

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb While I do get using them to help with stealth rushes, if a team is rushing just for the sake of rushing then they seem unnecessary on any map with a decent civ pool. Just having one player with hostage perks function as a safety net can buy you around 2 extra minutes before the first assault. But then again Payday 3 is still very early in to it's lifespan, so I'm confident future updates and more time for players to experiment will allow for new rush methods.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    @@geograymon55 No no you didn't understand: when I mentioned quick completion challenges, I was referring to the fact that the game does not reward you for simply completing the heists. Instead, it gives you XP for completing heists _in a certain way:_ as you point out, loud completions are a lot easier because the margin for error is huge (negotiation time, trading civs, etc...) so the point of the ECMs is to extend the stealth phase to escape before the alarm, because with this current system you only care about the challenges.

  • @geograymon55

    @geograymon55

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb Ah, wasn't aware of that. I never really looked too much at the challenge list.

  • @picklypt
    @picklypt8 ай бұрын

    Marc, your guides are always very well explained and efficient. Thanks :)

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you for the kind words Pickly! Much appreciated :)

  • @biocarde7215
    @biocarde72158 ай бұрын

    Ayyyy Marc's uploading PD3 videos! Loved your pd2 content, can't wait what mechanics you'll teach us about in pd3!

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    The PAYDAY 3 content is finally starting, yes! Glad you're looking forward to it, I appreciate that a lot :)

  • @RandomKenny
    @RandomKenny8 ай бұрын

    Finally a video about this method! Was tired of seeing all the damn 'how to do x heist quickly' but its seeded videos. Unseeded is the most important thing, because you will have to do each heist like 300 times to get all the challenges. So the less overall time the better. Good job as always!

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much Kenny! Absolutely agree on the seeded part: every time I see someone mentioning fast runs or good times, it's often for seeded runs... which is cool for the speedrun aspect, but for practical runs it's absolutely useless!

  • @momsaidletmeplay
    @momsaidletmeplay8 ай бұрын

    So glad you're making content for pd3!

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much, I appreciate it! I have plenty of plans for PAYDAY 3 content, so I'm glad you're enjoying it so far :D

  • @mediumplayer1
    @mediumplayer18 ай бұрын

    Sad to see ECMs being nerfed to the ground. Glad to see this doesn't stop you! See you in PD3 after they fix the game so that I have a reason to buy it. For now I have a will to return to PD2.

  • @mauer1

    @mauer1

    8 ай бұрын

    it makes sense considering you can do so much in casing mode now. and that there are so many new methods. having ecms be as strong as before would just mean not having to use any of those new methods.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    It is a bit sad, for sure. Although realistically, the ECMs were way too powerful in PAYDAY 2, so it's nice that their initial balance is much better this time. It should still be possible to rush quite a few heists, so stay tuned for more! As for the current state of the game, definitely don't buy yet... The gameplay is 10/10, but the systems and UI need a lot of work, and the server delay to start any solo heist is quite painful... Luckily I'm playing both 2 and 3 for now, so it's not too bad :D

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    @@mauer1 Also very good poins yup! For now their implementation is quite good: not overpowered (unlike PAYDAY 2), and they have some niche uses. If they need rebalancing in the future, the devs always have the option of making new skill lines to upgrade ECMs in some ways :D

  • @mauer1

    @mauer1

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb that's the other point ecms only really got insane because of hacker. When suddenly maps that are not rushable got rushable because you could add ticks with ecm downtime or the overall ecm time is now over the map duration.

  • @ericneuens

    @ericneuens

    8 ай бұрын

    ​@@MarcmbIt also makes sense from a time standpoint. Better tech, better security, better understanding of the heisters themselves and how they operate = reduced effectiveness.

  • @bltsevdallarfanclub641
    @bltsevdallarfanclub6418 ай бұрын

    You are one of the youtubers that I wish upload more frequently. Your content is always worth the watch.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the very kind words BLT! Much appreciated :) Hopefully as we get closer to winter break I'll be able to go back to my weekly upload schedule... that's the plan for now!

  • @blueboixo
    @blueboixo8 ай бұрын

    Return of the king. Glad to have you back Marc

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Very kind of you Blue! Thank you :)

  • @JohnDoe-et5bq
    @JohnDoe-et5bq8 ай бұрын

    new sub to the channel so excited to see the payday 3 content!

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for considering subscribing John! Welcome to the channel :D

  • @spkoftdvl
    @spkoftdvl8 ай бұрын

    This is the kind of content I want to see, nice

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much GVZ! Glad you liked this one :p

  • @Marcmb
    @Marcmb8 ай бұрын

    All runs are obviously done on fresh seeds, no RNG abuse to check codes ahead of time. If you would like to learn this optimized strategy, here are the PoVs from the other players! Also join our Discord, to find crews to spam this and other rushes :D ○ h3llcruizzer (alleyway QR): will be added soon. ○ ThisIsFun (employee code + open VIP room): will be added soon. ○ Twits (check whiteboard code): kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZGWbj8ydpLitY84.html

  • @mauricioelcaballer
    @mauricioelcaballer8 ай бұрын

    Marc, really you are THE payday stealth channel ;)

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much Mauricio! I appreciate that a lot :)

  • @firelion6919
    @firelion69198 ай бұрын

    I am glad that you have made another video on Payday 3! I would love to see in depth stealth guides for 7 heists! Btw, Will you ever consider doing loud guides for the road of rage for example?

  • @brucewayne4360

    @brucewayne4360

    8 ай бұрын

    A guide for Road Rage ? ........i See only Bots Here

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks Firelion, glad you liked this one too! My original plan was to make about one PAYDAY 3 video per week, but it's tricky with my IRL schedule. I have plans for stealth guides, starting with NRFTW in about ~2-3 uploads. I'll cover the 7 stealth heists first, and then perhaps Road Rage, we'll see!

  • @icy_spice
    @icy_spice8 ай бұрын

    I wish you could continue your solo infamy farming for Payday 2 without DLC heist (Like Murky Station) because your vidoes are so goooood that make me finish lots of stealth heist solo that I never thought I could finish them. Just wanna say thank you for your great work! Help me tons and I wish to continue to support you some how in Payday 3 when I have a chance to buy them (aka discount time!)

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey IcySpice! I do have plans to continue the PAYDAY 2 content (especially the Solo Infamy Farming series), so hopefully I can do that in a reasonable timeframe! It'll include both free heists, and DLC heists, because the good ones are a mix of everything :D Glad you're enjoying the content, and regarding PAYDAY 3, definitely wait for a discount, because the devs still have a lot of work to do...

  • @TheNobody1324
    @TheNobody13248 ай бұрын

    This is probably the best way to get the Smash and Grab achievement

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    I think so too yup! As long as your team knows what to do, you get it for free every single run, even without previous RNG knowledge about the codes.

  • @zairuswane
    @zairuswane8 ай бұрын

    That 5:43 TxCM strat was fun to watch hahaha, good thing payday 3 seems nice stealthwise

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Hahaha glad you liked that! He tried to trap me inside the room during the stun duration, but thankfully doors are very handy :p

  • @warmonger-zc2sf
    @warmonger-zc2sf8 ай бұрын

    Is there going to be any more Payday 2 content anymore, or just pd3?

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Excellent question Warmonger! I plan to continue playing both, so the content will most likely be a 50:50 mix of both. Unless a majority wants me to focus on one of the two, in which case I could probably go for that :p

  • @edfranger5206
    @edfranger52068 ай бұрын

    Love the hitman like stealth, or at least thats how i see it.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    In some aspects it feels more like Hitman than PAYDAY 2, yeah! The sound lures, the emphasis on casing mode... it's certainly very different from the prequel, which is quite nice :)

  • @timemage88x13
    @timemage88x138 ай бұрын

    I can see them adding a skill tree to make this gadget better.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Perhaps in the future yeah! That will be nice to see, but hopefully not too soon since they're good enough for now...

  • @ArmaRGool
    @ArmaRGool8 ай бұрын

    Marc is back lets goo !!!

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    It took me a while! My upload schedule lately has been very slow, but hopefully I'll be able to get back to it soon :D

  • @normalclown
    @normalclown8 ай бұрын

    I'm waiting to see how PD3 gets improved over the next year before buying, but I'm glad to see you're still able to speedrun these heists. Have you got plans to do the same for other heists? I'd be interested in Nightclub No VIP pass myself, having seen McBadass run it.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Good choice! The gameplay is very good, but the systems need a lot of work still, so the game will be a lot better next year. I have plans to upload more ECM rushes, guides for solo stealth completions, and some guides for efficient farming! A little bit of everything :D

  • @AdmiralCaner
    @AdmiralCaner8 ай бұрын

    Nice Showcase. Do you need to chain the ecm or can everyone spam it now?

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks Admiral! As for your question: everyone uses it at the same time (stacking, rather than chaining) for the best effect :)

  • @Damian125id
    @Damian125id8 ай бұрын

    This new casing mode stealth is fun tbh

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    It is very very fun yup! Extremely unique :D Shame that the game systems still need a bit of work... because other than that, the gameplay is amazing.

  • @hackersource4634
    @hackersource46348 ай бұрын

    I was very disappointed when I found out how bad the ECM's are now, especially as a solo player. When I need weapon XP or money I just do Rock the Cradle, I can do it in about a minute and a half but with a full team you could probably do it in a minute, maybe less.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    In some ways it is disappointing yup, considering they were by far the best deployable in PAYDAY 2, but now they are quite weak. It's nice though, since they are good enough for some niche rushes, without being way too overpowered... We'll see how many more we can rush in the near future! As for Rock the Cradle, it's one of my favorite solo heists! I think my best so far is a 2:15 on a fresh run (no previous RNG knowledge), but with a full team it can indeed be much faster :D

  • @toast-cj
    @toast-cj8 ай бұрын

    Seeing you play stealth is so satisfying. I cant wait for your guides on Payday 3 maps :)

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the kind words Toast! Heist guides in the upcoming weeks, for sure :D I want to cover all 7 before they start releasing new ones, ideally!

  • @O6edist
    @O6edist8 ай бұрын

    Great guide Wish they would bring back old ecm rush

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you O6! I'm currently playing old PAYDAY 2 whenever I want the old ECM rush mechanics, so I don't mind it being different for PAYDAY 3 :D

  • @O6edist

    @O6edist

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb makes sence

  • @elijahmcdowell9690
    @elijahmcdowell96902 күн бұрын

    A lot has been said about the stealth in Payday 3, and outside of the boring circle junk, I feel like it has some good bones. I really like the new hacking stuff, feels in line with the higher tech everything in this game.

  • @elijahmcdowell9690

    @elijahmcdowell9690

    2 күн бұрын

    And yeah it's simpler than PD2, but I feel like with time they will get comfortable with this new engine to do some wild stuff with it.

  • @youreprettygood1414
    @youreprettygood14148 ай бұрын

    The legend.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Haha that's very kind of you :) Thank you!

  • @Hibbou.
    @Hibbou.7 ай бұрын

    it's a shame, I would have loved to re-discover the real "hold up" in for example no rest for the wicked, I feel like there is only 2 playsyles in this PD long and risky stealth or loud, which is also long, there is no quick mission like in PD2 the jewlery heist, I learned how to play out of this heist

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    7 ай бұрын

    That's true that it can't be applied to all the heists, currently there's only 3 or 4 that can be rushed in a similar way to this. However there's always the possibility that devs will change things up in the future, so we'll see! :D

  • @bill_bardi
    @bill_bardi8 ай бұрын

    I already miss the payday 2 videos

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Aww sorry about that bill, but no worries! I will continue uploading a mix of both, because I still had so many unfinished projects in PAYDAY 2! :D

  • @bill_bardi

    @bill_bardi

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb ♥️

  • @thespacenoob4760
    @thespacenoob47608 ай бұрын

    very nice

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much, TheSpaceNoob :)

  • @welkingunther4298
    @welkingunther42988 ай бұрын

    I felt like the ECM wasn't even necessary for this. But unsure.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey Welkin! You can absolutely do the exact same thing without ECMs, since this heist is quite short. However, the ECMs are often necessary to ensure you escape in stealth (you have a long time window to escape even after the alarm goes off, but you want actual _stealth completions_ for the challenge XP, so that's the main reason to bring ECMs).

  • @IAmUnderscore
    @IAmUnderscore8 ай бұрын

    Curious how you knew to enter 0 first in the last run example? Is there some guaranteed digit, or was it just a lucky guess?

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Excellent question Underscore! Just a lucky guess: in order to save some time I enter one digit immediately, then keep my cursor close to the reset button, so that I can clear the code quickly if my guess was wrong :)

  • @Raykon333

    @Raykon333

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb is it optimal tho? If I understand correctly this results in 25% chance for a key press saved and 75% for an extra key press needed.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Raykon333 Very good question! The most optimal is probably to have your mouse equidistant to all 4 possible digits, but I'm bad at quick precise mouse movements, so that's not ideal for me. Furthermore, in the 75% of scenarios where your guess is wrong, the main time loss doesn't come from the extra input, but from having your camera starting from a corner rather than the center (since you just press F before moving your mouse, doesn't really add any time).

  • @BigCateSports
    @BigCateSports8 ай бұрын

    Thought you have a gtx970? Judging from the footage and fps from this video you upload, you run the game pretty smoothly.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Until recently yes! After playing the PAYDAY 3 Beta, it became clear that I needed to upgrade (my PC was nearly 8 years old at this point...) so I bought a new one! Much much better setup now :D

  • @BigCateSports

    @BigCateSports

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb Makes sense, cant wait for you to upload more pd3 videos, cheers!

  • @SBZ_MayNeveCRT
    @SBZ_MayNeveCRT8 ай бұрын

    Am I the only one who feel like killing them selves from my only joy was playing payday2 and the lovely community and with my extreme anxiety and major depression, looking forward to payday 3 was helping me get out of the deep whole I had myself found in from 2017-2022 and I woke on mental health improving it and I had aligned my progress with the launch of payday 3. So now its out and its awful not being able to have a social aspect and to have that same fun I got from playing payday 2 is so had I too find and it feels like I might as well go play mw2 with the menu layout and design missing all soul and personality that payday 2 was overflowing with I miss my payday ;-; - sincerely May (ZD36)

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey MayNeve! Sorry to hear that... it is indeed a bit disappointing that the game has flopped like this, because the devs should've started with a alpha + beta testing before releasing the full game like this. If you're into speedrunning, grinding in general, or ECM rushing, I would recommend joining our Discord server! We have ECM rushers playing daily, and several different infamy farming rotations, with a rank system that gives you a new role as your Personal Best improves - so it's a great place to socialize, have fun, and overall have something to do while we wait for PAYDAY 3 to be better! :D

  • @SBZ_MayNeveCRT

    @SBZ_MayNeveCRT

    7 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb thanks mark ive been around since i was 7 playing the Heist running counterfit and the first world bank payday was my first ever video game and id love too join :>

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    7 ай бұрын

    @@SBZ_MayNeveCRT Ooh nice! I personally never played PD:TH before PAYDAY 2, because I only discovered the game when the sequel came out. However, those 2 heists are certified classics, so it's definitely understandable that you stuck around after experiencing those heists :D

  • @BladeCross
    @BladeCross8 ай бұрын

    compare on pd2 and pd3, which one you liked the most Marcmb?

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Interesting question BladeCross! On release, I probably liked PAYDAY 2 more because it was my first time playing a stealth heisting simulator. For the base mechanics, I think PAYDAY 3 might be a bit better (or perhaps just because it's new and fresh), but considering that PAYDAY 3 still needs a lot of development to improve reward balance, server stability, lobby creation speed, levelling systems, basic functionality for co-op communication, and more... I have to say that I like PAYDAY 2 more.

  • @javgarag
    @javgarag8 ай бұрын

    New marcMB video just dropped 🎉🎉

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thanks Jav! A few weeks late, but it's finally here :D Hopefully my upload schedule will go back to the usual soon...

  • @spanssanfr516
    @spanssanfr5168 ай бұрын

    This could be great ... If you could gain exp from heist

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey Spans! That is a very good point, and the devs completely dropped the ball on this one. However, you do get a whole bunch of Infamy Points when you reach certain "Completion Milestones" (e.g., 10 / 15 / 20 / ... completions on Overkill, auto-completed for lower difficulties) so in this sense you do get XP for every completion, although the devs implemented it in the worst way possible.

  • @djolegameplay1089
    @djolegameplay10898 ай бұрын

    Can't belive Marcmb didn't post ultimate stealth guides...

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    I have one of those guides being worked on right now, which should be ready in a couple of weeks! I'll start with the beginner heist (No Rest For The Wicked), and then move on to the more interesting ones like Rock the Cradle, Touch the Sky, Surphaze...

  • @investgator-be8rj
    @investgator-be8rj8 ай бұрын

    can i ask for night club stealth guide? (in PD2) and i cant believe ecm rushing is alive at PD3..

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey investgator! Everything got delayed quite a bit with the release of PAYDAY 3, but I definitely plan to continue making guides for PAYDAY 2! First of all, I will continue my solo XP farming series, because that was my main project before PAYDAY 3...

  • @investgator-be8rj

    @investgator-be8rj

    8 ай бұрын

    ok! thanks for answer

  • @hamed2011
    @hamed20118 ай бұрын

    Now ECM jammer converted to ECM Slower in 2023 😐

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Yup it's not too bad though, because they were by far the most overpowered deployable in PAYDAY 2, so at least now they are more balanced!

  • @kotletschabowy4169
    @kotletschabowy41698 ай бұрын

    I'm glad PD3 has more stealth modifiers than just titancams and more guards, should make stealth more interesting

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    It's certainly a very interesting system! For now we've only seen three (Titan Cams, Lead Guard, Camera Loop Duration lowered to 5s), but the devs mentioned during the Dev Diaries that they have plans to add more, and have some kind of rotating system, which should keep things interesting :D

  • @irisprojects

    @irisprojects

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb To note, Cerberus Core is ALL runtimes, of course you kind of only run camera loops but route ping is considered a runtime and gets cut down to 5

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    @@irisprojects Ah, very interesting! I've tried using the Routed Pings on Surphaze and they never mark anyone for me, so I'm not sure if the skill is working properly anyway... Apparently it has an unintended effect where marking guards through the Camera Operator computer will keep those guards marked forever (up to 3 marks as usual), if you have the Routed Ping skill.

  • @chees1990
    @chees19908 ай бұрын

    Everyones moving onto the new game while im still starting from scratch

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Very interesting choice chees! Related to this, at some point during the next 2 weeks, I'll upload a very short video about my progression in PAYDAY 2 after reaching Infamy 500...

  • @tarihimanyak9787
    @tarihimanyak97878 ай бұрын

    good thing ecms didn't get removed in pd3 just nerfed :D

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    I think this is the best case scenario, yup! They were way too powerful in PAYDAY 2, but I'm very thankful that they weren't fully removed :D

  • @Snappier
    @Snappier8 ай бұрын

    NICE

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    THanks Snappier!

  • @Gdla12
    @Gdla128 ай бұрын

    oh my god

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Haha hope you liked it Gdla!

  • @--Defur--
    @--Defur--8 ай бұрын

    More pro video if Tomato Dyrax was playing with you, 🍅🍅

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Always! Sadly no tomato this time, even though he did join for quite a few runs :(

  • @KyryloMudrokha
    @KyryloMudrokha8 ай бұрын

    "Doesn't delay pagers, calls and cams" Then what it's purpouse then?

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey Kyrylo! Watch out for the wording because that's where your misunderstanding comes from. In PAYDAY 2, ECMs **BLOCK** pagers, calls, and cams. In PAYDAY 3, neither of these is **BLOCKED,** but pagers and cams are **DELAYED.**

  • @heyimmuted
    @heyimmuted8 ай бұрын

    I can't believe you had the mental capacity to complete this heist 65 times

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Haha yup! 65 with the "loud" escape (so after alarm), and another ~80 in stealth, just on this heist! I easily reached Infamy 100 without grinding a single Combat challenge :p

  • @ArthurSuen91
    @ArthurSuen918 ай бұрын

    strap in bois here comes the first PD3 stealth guide

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    And many more to come! :D

  • @gunnerdown
    @gunnerdown8 ай бұрын

    Isn’t the basement door being open rng?

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey Gunner! The code door is always locked, and then the door to the lever room is indeed RNG. In the first showcased run it was open (very simple), and then in the 2nd showcased run it was closed: you can see I sprint as usual to lure the guard staring at the door, then use the Infiltrator ACE skill to get Rush reliably, and open it very quickly

  • @gunnerdown

    @gunnerdown

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb ok, yea I meant the power room, I’ve just never had it open and I’ve only seen a single other person with it so I was making sure

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    @@gunnerdown The power / lever room yup! Small chance for it to spawn already open, although I'm not sure what the exact percentage is :)

  • @lusien3309
    @lusien33098 ай бұрын

    Is this game still on Gtx 970?

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey lusien! Not anymore, my old setup only worked on lowest settings so I upgraded for PAYDAY3. I'm now on a much much better setup!

  • @lusien3309

    @lusien3309

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb Hey. Congratulations on the upgrade!

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Thank you! :)@@lusien3309

  • @hshshshhddnhssu1350
    @hshshshhddnhssu13508 ай бұрын

    step 1: find friends

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Join our Discord if you need players to rush these things! :D

  • @WoahItsKris
    @WoahItsKris8 ай бұрын

    gonna be honest here: i tried playing payday 3, it is really just so much less fun than payday 2. payday 2 was very easy to grasp and anyone could have fun in it, whether with friends or without. payday 3 on the otherhand feels wayyyy too serious, and it feels a lot less multiplayer than payday 2.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    I personally like the new mechanics (all the things you can now do in casing mode, new gadgets, new heists...), although I haven't played a single public heist yet (always playing in friends-only lobbies) so I can't comment on that... However, when you're playing with either friends, or good heisters who know what they are doing, there's a lot of multiplayer / co-op aspects, such as being able to lure guards away for your team, hacking into the cameras to face away from your teammates, staying unmasked to move lootbags easily through guarded areas, etc...

  • @MassivePonyFan
    @MassivePonyFan8 ай бұрын

    So this is how you get the achievement for beating it in under 2 mins.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    That's one of the ways to do it yup! Very easy with this strategy, definitely :D

  • @MassivePonyFan

    @MassivePonyFan

    8 ай бұрын

    I actually did it last night with my friend. Not exactly this method but it was fun trying to speedrun it. I was on normal tho cuz I'm a scrub.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Awesome, GJ! And nws, normal is good as a starting point :D @@MassivePonyFan

  • @LunarWrens145
    @LunarWrens1458 ай бұрын

    I can't bring myself to play this game

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    No worries bedbot! Most of us are still playing PAYDAY 2 because that's the superior one :D Drop by the Discord and come ECM rush with us!!

  • @random.person.9995
    @random.person.99958 ай бұрын

    Ecms are now dog poop 😂 just another unfortunate change to PD3 😫

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    They are 100% a lot weaker yup! It's not too bad though, considering they were absolutely OP in PAYDAY 2. For now they only have a few uses, but they might get some changes in the future, we'll see :D

  • @GG_1318
    @GG_13188 ай бұрын

    why even use ecm at this point?

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Excellent question GG! The same strategy can be done effortlessly without ECMs, especially if you avoid masking up for as long as possible. However, for efficient Infamy Farming, you want to prioritize stealth completions first, over the loud ones -- the extra delay at the end helps a lot to ensure you will be able to get the stealth escape, to optimize the farming as much as possible.

  • @cubeaiden2632
    @cubeaiden26328 ай бұрын

    Hey pls make payday3 steslth guide

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey Cube! I'll be making stealth guides, stealth builds, and ECM rushes in the near future! I'm struggling a bit with the upload schedule lately, but hopefully soon!

  • @exiled_seeker6692
    @exiled_seeker66928 ай бұрын

    So you are saying pd2's ecms were useful but on pd3, its a waste

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    In PAYDAY 2 they were by far the best deployable, with nothing else coming even close for the main deployable in co-op stealth (many choices for secondary deployable though). In PAYDAY 3 they can only extend the stealth phase by a few seconds, so they only shine in some niche rushes that can be done either very quickly, or mostly unmasked!

  • @penguinonpd2
    @penguinonpd28 ай бұрын

    penguins???? 🐧

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Supah penguins! 🐧🐧🐧

  • @penguinonpd2

    @penguinonpd2

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb guuut

  • @BadBoy-cl7sp
    @BadBoy-cl7sp8 ай бұрын

    Why did they ruin ecms :(

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    I wouldn't say they are ruined! They were extremely extremely powerful back in PAYDAY 2 (always the best choice, if you knew how to use them), so the fact that they are more balanced now is quite nice :D

  • @selphieb1549
    @selphieb15498 ай бұрын

    Cant run payday 3 ;/

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Hey Selphie! That is a shame, because many people are in your same situation where their PC can run PAYDAY 2, but not 3... in any case, many of us went back to PAYDAY 2 because it still has so much fun content, so hopefully you can enjoy that still! :D

  • @Keter05
    @Keter058 ай бұрын

    Penguin 🐧

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Hiiiii Keter thanks for dropping by! :D

  • @Keter05

    @Keter05

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb Good to see Payday 3 content from you

  • @dangdudedan8756
    @dangdudedan87568 ай бұрын

    2:08 everyone places deployables because if they didnt they wouldnt get xp.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Half true, but half incorrect! We do indeed drop the deployables to complete more challenges, but simply completing the heist would eventually give heist challenges by itself, so the deployables are just a bonus :)

  • @KataraATLA
    @KataraATLA8 ай бұрын

    How are people already level 100 😂

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Mostly heist completions! About 10 OVK completions on each heist (mostly stealth, but you can fully stealth and then trigger the alarm before escaping for an easy 10 loud completions), and then a bunch of solo Cradle, and Dirty Ice ECM rushing :D

  • @KuroNeKitsu
    @KuroNeKitsu8 ай бұрын

    Men, after watching some payday 3 vidoes, it just feels so inferior to pd2. Maybe after 10 years of pd3 my opinion will be different, but for now pd2 is simply better game.

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    PAYDAY 2 is absolutely superior currently yup! The mechanics in PAYDAY 3 are very good, and it's new and fresh which makes it fun, but they need to work a lot on reward balance, server stability, lobby creation speed, levelling systems, basic functionality for co-op communication, and more...

  • @iscrollinthecomments9642
    @iscrollinthecomments96428 ай бұрын

    great to see that these take more skill compared to the complete braindead rushing of pd2

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Certainly Pho! The old rushes are still quite fun (especially when optimized to the maximum), but this new gameplay is a lot less forgiving, which is very nice :)

  • @ghjkhb
    @ghjkhb8 ай бұрын

    Payday 3 is a shit version of payday 2

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    It certainly has a lot of things to fix before it can catch up in terms of quality yup!

  • @ghjkhb

    @ghjkhb

    8 ай бұрын

    Quality and design choices are different I would argue. Having a boring skill system is a crime. How could they fuck this up?@@Marcmb

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Personally I enjoyed the researching skills during my first few days, and the skill system isn't too bad although more choices would be nice. Regardless, every few years the devs rework either the skill system or the individual skills, so I'm expecting they'll do the same with PAYDAY 3 whenever they get solid feedback on it!@@ghjkhb

  • @MartinSK44
    @MartinSK448 ай бұрын

    POV: You're looking for the pinned comment

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Oops thanks for letting me know Martin, I've re-posted the pinned comment (with links to the other PoVs) to fix this!

  • @payday2speedrun
    @payday2speedrun8 ай бұрын

    woot! 1:25! is this the easiest heist of payday 3?

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    Possibly the easiest one yup! Rock the Cradle is also quite easy, and most of the time the heists have no reward for bonus loot, so everything is quite quick in PAYDAY 3 :D Also by the way, I still remember that I have some unread DMs from you Oliver (so many DMs from different people, because I've been extremely busy with IRL and content planning ever since PAYDAY 3 released), so hopefully I can go through my DMs in the very near future! Sorry about the delay...

  • @ireallydontknow278
    @ireallydontknow2788 ай бұрын

    Damn might yave to try this since doety ice is so easy and fast to complete but sadly since i ahev no crew it might take a while but hey whatever

  • @Marcmb

    @Marcmb

    8 ай бұрын

    It's really fun to play! It's not very necessary because the heist is very easy in solo, but it's certainly even faster, if you can find 3 competent players :D

  • @ireallydontknow278

    @ireallydontknow278

    8 ай бұрын

    @@Marcmb yeah which sadly most are not hell if I go into an overkill game there's People who still don't know about the multi tag scanner in the workshop

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