Easiest way to install cams in a 4.6 3V 2005-2009 Mustang GT
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Today I show you how I have installed many non-spring or phaser limiter required cams in every 3V I’ve done.
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I did as suggested and got my cams installed in approx 3 hours, great tip Thanks!
@Thelegendking-yj4bm
4 ай бұрын
What cams you use?
@darcymcintosh1372
4 ай бұрын
@@Thelegendking-yj4bm Detroit rockers na grind
I've listened to several videos of 3-valves with these Detroit Rocker cams and almost regret going with my Comp Cam Stage 2 XFI NSR 127200 cams that were designed for higher peak hp and forced induction. The Detroit Rockers definitely have more chop and sound better. I own a mint condition, low mileage 2006 that I've owned since brand new with Kenne Bell 2.6L blower and my Comp Cams added 34.25bhp and 29.44tq. I've added way too many mods to include here, but I've dyno'd at 500rwhp / 453.45 rwtq, (max recommended tq on a stock 3V motor) and that's plenty of power for me. I can barely keep the power to the ground as it is even with 305/40-18 NT555RII drag radials in the rear. Thanks for the video.
Awesome video! I told people about your Fusion for years haha! I wish Ford would make a cool V8 sedan but these car companies aren't what they used to be. I'm very meticulous about my car and it's good to see someone else taking their time and doing it the right way.
Just finished installing my Detroit rocker cams in! Sounds awesome, thank you very much for all the info, 100% helped me during the install
@MattSoppa
Ай бұрын
Great to hear!
I love the videos man, keep it up!
This is a lot easier job than I thought. I was honestly kind of terrified taking it on. I had never worked on any ohc cars just old pushrod motors (good old windsor) but using this same method I had it done in about 2 hours. Only thing I did different is I took off the intake manifold but that was mostly because I was putting on the ford racing intake manifold. Also do longtubes at the same time. The car was a completely different machine when I was done. Threw a 150 shot on it now 3 years later and 200lbs of nitrous she’s still kicking. I bought a 2019 10 speed pp1 gt last year. Plan on giving the 3v to my son when he turns 16. But we still got 4 years till then
I have 3 , haven’t had a mustang since 2000 .im thinking about getting this done
Great video! Would like to know the hp gains on your 3 upgrades after the tune
Thanks for the mustang content man. If you have time to answer a question I’d appreciate it. I have an 09 3 valve fuel Ltft are high. +10 to +14 no vacuum leak checked and replaced intake and hoses around the intake. Am I missing something?
Great video!
Wondering if you ever had a no start condition after installing the cams?
Great vid, im about to do the job. Was wondering if that same cam will work on my 96 gt 4.6
@mustang_headass
5 ай бұрын
2V and 3V have different cams. I would search some cam setups for it and see what's recommended
I didn’t see that you turned the crank pulley to the 1 o’clock position? Is it not necessary?
Whats the pattern to tighten the bolts?
Im looking at having to do a head gasket job on my 5.4 3v F150. Its supercharged and Id love to put the FRPP cams in it while its apart.
@EastDallasKicks
6 ай бұрын
The lightning or Harley?
@loganreviewsit
6 ай бұрын
@@EastDallasKicks neither, its an FX2 with the Edelbrock Eforce kit on it, stage 2 at 10psi.
@EastDallasKicks
6 ай бұрын
@@loganreviewsit bruh people still boost those. Would you say you got better returns then the lightning would with pulley upgrades and such?
@loganreviewsit
6 ай бұрын
@@EastDallasKicks From what I understand this kit was designed in conjunction with Ford to be as "factory like" as possible. That said its an Eaton blower which isn't known for making the most power. Its very stockish, even at 500hp its not a monster. It just feels like a much bigger V8. Personally if I were going to boost a 5.4 Id go with the largest whipple I could fit. They make their power down low, but the rods can only take about 500 before they bend. Im on the limit. A good tune is the saving grace.
Did same thing with my 08 GT, only issue Iv had is the Howard rattler cams I got are just shy of a 1/3 of a inch shorter than stock cams. Cam sits fine just the phaser is pulling timing chain close to the firewall of the engine, I have maybe 2/10s of a inch clearance compared to almost a half inch with the stock cams..
@MattSoppa
5 ай бұрын
Sounds like something I’d stay away from. That’s too much
@hines1005
5 ай бұрын
@@MattSoppa Ended up being wrong side I was trying to put in, 100% my fault nothing due to your video. Thank you for response anyways.
i had a shop tell me this was a 12 hour job i’m definitely dropping a motor and doing this myself
@MattSoppa
6 ай бұрын
Dropping the engine is pointless if you’re just doing cams. I’ve obviously did it in the car.
Wish i could have done this when i did my timing rebuild. Cams cost too damn much tho
Hey man. Good vid. Do you need a tune to daily them? Not looking for too much power. Just want the choppy sound
@MattSoppa
4 ай бұрын
Yes you should
@Daniel_5.4
4 ай бұрын
@@MattSoppa will it start and have a check engine if not tuned? I’m not too good at tuning and there’s not any good tuners around me 😔
@MattSoppa
4 ай бұрын
@@Daniel_5.4 get a remote tune from Lito.
Holy crap, there some mean spirited, obviously abused children out there... Whatever happened to just moving on, rather than talking smack.. Dude, I enjoy the content, and no, I don't own any of these cars or motors, except for my 2003 F150 4.6. Though I'd be proud to own either of the 3v mod stangs. So it's not a Coyote or a Windsor built to within an cubic inch of it's life... Still good looking, and decent performing rides.. Thanks 🙏 for sharing.. ☺️
@sk8n854
4 ай бұрын
They're driving around in their cars that mommy and daddy bought them. What do you expect? Just wait and laugh when they drive it into a crowd on the side of the road.
Just wondering about this method ! Did you put the motor in time ! TDC. ? I have a set of hot rod cams to install in my 3v !
@MattSoppa
2 ай бұрын
It never went out of time
I have a preloaded remote tune from sctflash was thinking about getting my 08 gt some ford hot rod cams, would u recommend the Detroit rocker cams with this tune or should I go somewhere and get it professionally tuned after changing the cams myself?
@MattSoppa
Ай бұрын
Get a good non canned tuned
Ty for the video With a motor that has 130k, wouldn't you recommend replacing the roller rockers while you were there ?
@MattSoppa
7 ай бұрын
If the rollers still roll and there’s nothing obviously wrong with them, send it
@robertswift6101
5 ай бұрын
if i`m there i might as well do as much as possible for preventive measure,yes you could save more money that way,but i wouldnt take the chance of having to back in there myself when i was in there the first time.
What lift are you using in your garage? Looks like it would work in mine.
@MattSoppa
6 ай бұрын
MaxxJaxx
So it needed a tune? I was wondering what the power results if stock + cam swap
@MattSoppa
9 ай бұрын
Absolutely
Might have to get one of those harnesses and put him a coyote in it 😉
Are the ford racing cams able to be used with a roush m90 supercharger
@MattSoppa
4 ай бұрын
Yes I’m sure many have
If you were to do a 1st gen 5.0 swap to a s197 mustang. How much would you charge?
@MattSoppa
10 ай бұрын
Labor would be in the 3-4000 range
Do you need a tune with the cams ? And how much does it cost to get it done at a shop ?
@MattSoppa
4 ай бұрын
I highly recommend a tune. Require in fact. If you’re in the phoenix area I can give you a quote. Matt.makeitmodular@gmail.com
Which cam would you recommend on my 2008 4.6 I’m looking for old hot rod sound and something that might help in the bottom end
@MattSoppa
4 күн бұрын
Hot rods for sound
@Ed_3v
2 күн бұрын
@@MattSoppaso hot rods sound better the Detroit rockers?
@MattSoppa
2 күн бұрын
@@Ed_3v same same
great video, i’m about to install ford performance hot rod cams in my 3v and was wondering if i can use your method to install them?
@MattSoppa
10 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@user-cf1us3ds2o
10 ай бұрын
Did you do your cams WITHOUT putting engine on TDC? Or just replaced cams without TDC? Thanks for your help.
@MattSoppa
10 ай бұрын
@@user-cf1us3ds2o I just try and get the engine in position where there’s the least amount of valves trying to be opened
@ryesagainstthemachine2995
8 ай бұрын
I did mine similar to his and have a video as well. Good luck with your install
What tuning software are you using? I would like to start learning how to tune
@MattSoppa
10 ай бұрын
I don’t tune them directly, with 3V cars I use an SCT device and use a man named Lito to tune the car
@brandonyass9631
8 ай бұрын
i want to order these for my mustang, can i just install them and start driving without a tune?@@MattSoppa
@MattSoppa
8 ай бұрын
@@brandonyass9631 short answer. No
@brandonyass9631
8 ай бұрын
lol thanks for the fast reply! whats the long answer before i order these right now ha@@MattSoppa
@R3DD3DPvP
7 ай бұрын
@@brandonyass9631get the cams and a tuner, if you run no tune you run the potential of running really rough or destroying the engine when you change something like cams.
would love to get this done on my 08 gt. how much would you charge?
@MattSoppa
2 ай бұрын
Email of you’d like a formal quote. Matt.makeitmodular@gmail.com
What is the part number on those cams? I really like the sound
@MattSoppa
3 сағат бұрын
Just ford performance hot rods
You dont have to lock the cam or the fly wheel?
@MattSoppa
27 күн бұрын
The wedge tool prevents the chain from falling off
Why does the timing gear say" L" on it when it's on the Right side of the motor??? Mine has an " R " on the right side of the motor ( passenger side ) and " L " on the left..
@MattSoppa
Ай бұрын
It’s the same part number for both side. I’m sure R is hiding
@jamesstevens2865
Ай бұрын
I noticed that on my 05 just after asking, thanks for the response.
If i install myself. Your saying i can't drive to the place to get it tuned after im done installing. Would like to do it myself and take to get tuned.
@MattSoppa
6 ай бұрын
Get a good remote tune from Lito
@user-pp9yc2ut5v
5 ай бұрын
I don't have a laptop computer or planning on getting one. Wouldn't I need that also besides a remote tuner to do data logs to send him. But thanks for the reply.
How come you didn't show what position to put the crankshaft
@MattSoppa
8 ай бұрын
Since it ended up in a position where only a few valves were starting to open (luck) didn’t think of it. That’s all that matters
How much would you charge for my 3V?
@MattSoppa
4 ай бұрын
To do NSR cams in a 3V is $500 in labor
Can I just get the cans or will I need anything else?
@MattSoppa
6 күн бұрын
Phaser bolts
@sunutooo1543
6 күн бұрын
@@MattSoppais that all? Thanks.
@sunutooo1543
6 күн бұрын
@@MattSoppaI saw something that said A high-lift cam is going to put a lot more stress on valvetrain components like springs, rocker arms, pushrods, lifters, and even camshaft lobes. If not kept in check, monitored, and maintained regularly, this stress can cause catastrophic engine failures.
@MattSoppa
6 күн бұрын
@@sunutooo1543 well there’s no pushrods so sounds like that’s bad Info. If they’re NSR cams there’s not too much wear and tear if at all.
@Blamboseemore
6 күн бұрын
@@MattSoppawhat’s nsr mean
I'd imagine there should be a "neutral rest position" for the cams to where they aren't pushing down the valve springs. But who am I kidding? I'm not camming my 3V... I'm coyote swapping it...
@MattSoppa
2 ай бұрын
My dude. Let me know if you need help
boat anchor
@rickitysplitz7035
3 ай бұрын
They aren't that heavy.
i still can't understand why you or anybody else would put up with that bullshit just for the noise. at least be smart enough to figure out on how to lower the damn idle might sound better if that is all you really want. to let you all know that's why EFI sucks ass.
@MattSoppa
5 ай бұрын
Yes we’ve been using EFI for almost 40 years now, it definitely sucks.
This is exactly why I steer totally away from Ford products 🤷🏻♂️
@MattSoppa
2 ай бұрын
Because you can change cams without draining oil or coolant? Got it.
@hbanyea
2 ай бұрын
@@MattSoppa Actually it’s because the modular Ford V8 is trash, in comparison to a LS or Hemi..
@MattSoppa
2 ай бұрын
@@hbanyea ok hip hop
@hbanyea
2 ай бұрын
@@MattSoppa I gap these 4.6 3v with a 6000 lb truck so jokes on you 🤷🏻♂️
@MattSoppa
2 ай бұрын
@@hbanyea I don’t mind em but I do Coyotes.
Put cams in it, be dissapointed, sell the car
@EastDallasKicks
6 ай бұрын
Disappointed because mfs thought it was gonna boost performance more than 10HP or because the noise?
@casinc.2138
5 ай бұрын
@@EastDallasKicks personally I would do this for the noise and that's it I know the 3v isn't the fastest
@StayHydrated-wd5ic
4 ай бұрын
Gtfoh 🤣 I put a cam in this 3v I’m keeping it. You can keep your Ghost cam coyotes 😂
@hithereperson8137
4 ай бұрын
@@StayHydrated-wd5ic I deadass cnc ported the heads, did some massive cams (for a 3v), and did long tubes, and the fucker make 347 rwhp, so I took that out and am now godzilla swapping that same car
@mustangaddict589
3 ай бұрын
@@hithereperson8137tuner could be reason you didn’t make more power. With ported heads you should’ve been in 360-380 range with mods you did.
Ill stick to my 351w base engines. F these POS mod motors