Dustopper VS. Dust Deputy // Cyclone Shootout

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This week we are having a Cyclone shootout between the Dustopper and the Dust Deputy by Oneida.I already had the Dust Deputy cyclone separator hooked to my miter saw and triggered by an I-Socket switch. I would also use the Ridgid shop vac and the Dust Deputy to vacuum the shop. It works great. But, I wanted to have it on the miter Saw Station full time. So I went to Home Depot and picked up a Dustopper cyclone separator to see how it compares to the Oneida Dust Deputy.
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  • @MindDezign
    @MindDezign4 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful good enough test.Thank you for posting!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Very welcome!!

  • @danielmorgan4445
    @danielmorgan44454 жыл бұрын

    Awesome demonstration! Thank you!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Daniel Morgan Very welcome!! 👍👍👊👊

  • @gary8033
    @gary80334 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comparison. I’ve been looking at a few options, including making one. This video gives me something to think about. Thanks again 👍

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    gary8033 Very welcome!👍👍👍

  • @punxone
    @punxone3 жыл бұрын

    I just started learning how to woodwork and realized that dust collection is something that I totally overlooked. This is an awesome straight forward video and set me off in a good direction. Thanks man!!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very welcome.. Glad you enjoyed. 👍👍

  • @roBLINDhood
    @roBLINDhood5 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t even know the duststopper existed. Thank you. Great timing too. :)

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ian Enderby Glad I could help you out!! 👍👍

  • @diyenthu2844
    @diyenthu28442 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful. Thanks for taking the time!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very welcome. 👍👍

  • @snort455
    @snort4554 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for helping figure out a solution to my current cleaning problem: a rat infested crawl space! I could throw a lot of $$ at the right vacuum setup. After hours of research, I think I’m now on the right track.

  • @mikevincent2811
    @mikevincent28115 жыл бұрын

    I have the dust stopper. In addition to cleaning my shop, I use to to clean my patio. I put a brick in the bucket to keep it from tipping over.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mikr Vincent clever idea!! Pretty smart

  • @perryjurgensjurgens3416
    @perryjurgensjurgens34164 жыл бұрын

    Great work - thanks!!!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Perry Jurgens Thank you for watching, glad I could help.

  • @xeroxprinter7234
    @xeroxprinter72342 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the excellent comparison!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very welcome. 👍👍

  • @johnkristoff2341
    @johnkristoff23414 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful and informative. Many thanks.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    John Kristoff Very welcome!! 👍👍💪

  • @trisic2697
    @trisic2697 Жыл бұрын

    Great analysis! Thanks for posting!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    Жыл бұрын

    Very welcome. 👍👍

  • @scottjohnson3226
    @scottjohnson32265 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comparison! Since I have neither, it really helped me decide between the two.

  • @scottjohnson3226

    @scottjohnson3226

    5 жыл бұрын

    ~subscribed~

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Scott Johnson Thanks for watching and the sub.. I’m glad I could help and I hope you have fun watching my upcoming videos. 👍👍👊 Thanks for joining the team.

  • @edkeck3629
    @edkeck36295 жыл бұрын

    Nice no BS comparison. They both have their place. Thank you for the video.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Ed Keck Thank you for watching Ed. I’m glad you liked it!!👍👊

  • @kruseknifeworks5438
    @kruseknifeworks54382 жыл бұрын

    Really appreciate the comparison, nicely done. Bought an Oneida for my shop just yesterday, well worth the extra money in my opinion. On a side note, I've been watching your casting vids for a few months now, and have been inspired to add it to my handle offerings. Thank you.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    2 жыл бұрын

    Super cool.. I’m glad I could be helpful to you. 👍👍👊👊

  • @MrBrianDuga
    @MrBrianDuga4 жыл бұрын

    This was really good. Thanks for sharing.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    MrBrianDuga Very Welcome!! 👍👍

  • @carlycfs
    @carlycfs Жыл бұрын

    Awesome comparison and demonstration video !!!!!!!! Great video editing and narration as well !! So helpful and worth watching this VID !! Good job buddy !!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Money Man. 👍👍🦾

  • @barryulrich2170
    @barryulrich21702 жыл бұрын

    I've been using a Dust Deputy for vacuum sanding drywall for about 5 years now. I saw the Duststopper and thought it might be nice to get a lower profile for my cart so I bought one to try. My version of a comparison test was to hook them up in tandem and then reverse the order for the second test. I sanded for approximately the same amount of time each way and the pails were clean and dry for both tests. I started with VAC - DUST DEPUTY - DUSTSTOPPER - SANDER and got about the same amount in both pails. Then I switched to VAC - DUSTSTOPPER - DUST DEPUTY - SANDER. This time all the dust was in the Dust Deputy pail and there was nothing in the Duststopper pail. I ran the test 3 times with the same result each time. I did it this way because I use a bag and a filter in the shopvac so I wouldn't be able to see what was in the shopvac after a test. What I determined is the Duststopper only catches the largest heaviest particles. Its probably ok for sawdust.

  • @wiredforstereo

    @wiredforstereo

    2 жыл бұрын

    The orange stops very little of the fine dust, in my experience. It all ends up in the vacuum filter.

  • @CGT80

    @CGT80

    Жыл бұрын

    This is exactly what I wanted to know. I also use drywall bags in my shop vac for drywall or concrete dust. For my blast cabinet, I use a more simple version of the duststopper for my blast cabinet but it seems that my bag fills up a little and blowby gets into my vac motor since the bags don't fit great in my hang up pro vac.

  • @sam-vc5ko
    @sam-vc5ko4 жыл бұрын

    thanks for doing this test.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    sam No problem Sam!! 👍👍👊

  • @larryengstrom3892
    @larryengstrom38927 ай бұрын

    Well, I watched your new previous one and this older 1. Thank you for the information.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    7 ай бұрын

    Very Welcome 👍👍

  • @crislopes4518
    @crislopes45185 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Appreciate your time and effort for it

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Cris Lopes Very Welcome!! Thank you for your comment!! 👍👊

  • @johnlynch7638
    @johnlynch76383 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for a really reasonable and direct comparispn along with the honest price comparison vs the different strength of pull between the two. Most specifically with the fine dust particles that the Oneida blocks whole the other one let's it through. Pretty much proves what I suspected and will save me money in my 8X8 size limited shop!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very welcome.. I’m glad you enjoyed the video.. plenty more on the channel.. welcome 👍👍

  • @southwindswoodworks8260
    @southwindswoodworks82605 жыл бұрын

    Thanks again, Jake! You seem to keep popping up when I need to research something. :D Sick of shop vac bags and all the friggin dust everywhere so I decided to look at a collector... and BAM! there's your channel helping me make an informed decision. Cheers!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    SouthWindsWoodWorks I’m not sure how I missed your comment when it came in. I’m glad you enjoy the videos, plenty more to come and next time I hope to catch your comment as it comes in! 👍👍

  • @JohnHill-qo3hb
    @JohnHill-qo3hb2 жыл бұрын

    Anyone who has a TARDIS is an OK guy by me. Very helpful video, thank you very much.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you John!👍👍

  • @mikewilander3729
    @mikewilander37293 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for making this. Really helpful for us DIY folks who just want to know which is better to keep the basement or garage shop clean.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Very welcome! 👍👍

  • @jamestblanton3188
    @jamestblanton31882 жыл бұрын

    thanks...picking up the cheap one tonight:)

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome.. I’m happy with mine

  • @charliezembillas3932
    @charliezembillas39324 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the review. Just bought a dust deputy, feeling that I made a good choice.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Charlie Zembillas 👍👍👍

  • @antcali1
    @antcali14 жыл бұрын

    Great Video Man... thank you !

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Anthony Cali Very welcome Anthony!! 👍👊

  • @dlee4195
    @dlee41954 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, good info.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @BrianThorstad
    @BrianThorstad4 жыл бұрын

    Very helpful, thanks. Subscribed!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Brian Thorstad Thanks Brian!! Glad I could help you out! 👍👍👊

  • @alschulze-woodworx7258
    @alschulze-woodworx72585 жыл бұрын

    Good video !!! There are a few cool “vac stack” builds out here using the dustopper 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Al Schulze - WoodworX There might be one more soon!! 😂😂

  • @carlbbellia8673
    @carlbbellia86734 жыл бұрын

    good presentation..thanks..i usually put a old T-SHIRT around the vac filter.however it is easier to dump pail than the vac..

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    carlb bellia Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed.

  • @joserenteria1535
    @joserenteria15354 жыл бұрын

    Excellent information!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Jose Renteria Thank you Jose!! 👍👍

  • @ginoasci2876
    @ginoasci2876 Жыл бұрын

    thank you for doing this.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    Жыл бұрын

    Very welcome 👍

  • @mekt0r
    @mekt0r Жыл бұрын

    I bought a dust deputy used about a decade ago, and it's been a great addition to my sand blaster cabinet to help keep the vacuum filter cleaner longer. Especially when it comes to sand blasting: you definitely want the better one to handle the fine sand particles floating around or your vac filter will clog up in no time. Thanks for the great video for those of us that were curious about the performance difference!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you.. I appreciate it. 👍

  • @riverunner9978
    @riverunner99783 жыл бұрын

    Great video , I didn’t know the dustopper existed,!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    👍👍

  • @55chevy327
    @55chevy3275 жыл бұрын

    Great comparison.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    55chevy327 Whoo hoo!! Thanks John-Boy!!

  • @jakematic
    @jakematic5 жыл бұрын

    Nice comparison, thanks ! I might get a Dustopper or two for the same reason to backfill my Oneida system.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Mulligan Farms 👍👍👍 glad you enjoyed the video!!! They both have their place for sure!!

  • @stevenewsam1993
    @stevenewsam19933 жыл бұрын

    I really appreciate your video. It was concise, to the point and clear which device works the best. That being said, I’m going with the duststopper because of packaging efficiency.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome.. glad I could help

  • @fcschoenthal
    @fcschoenthal5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comparison. I've been thinking about getting a couple of these for around the shop and will probably go with he Dustopper. The DD is really twice as much with their 5 gal bucket and 4x more for the setup that you have. One of the forums had the inventor of the Dustopper chime in and said that they are working on a larger model (for bigger dust collectors). Can't wait for that to happen. My old HF system is really needing to be 2 stage.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    fcschoenthal Good stuff, I’m glad you enjoyed the video. There really are different needs for different people, I’m glad I have both setups. 👍👍

  • @vizio213
    @vizio2133 жыл бұрын

    Helpful information, Dustopper will be good enough for me.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    It’s pretty good... Thanks for watching!👍👍

  • @stevepeterson5670
    @stevepeterson56703 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!👍👊

  • @SuperBardley
    @SuperBardley5 жыл бұрын

    Jake, great comparo, thanks for taking the time to do such a good job of it! Just for the record, both of these are cyclone type pre-filters, and the Dustopper is what is known as a Thien separator. There are many DIY examples of the Thien on the interweb, so all you DIYers can go have some fun on that one. In fact, I have a Thien separator hooked up to my big Harbor Freight dust collector w/ a 4" flexi hose, and yes it works as well as shown here. Yep, another poster is right about adding a bag, which is generally a good idea because it is the superfine sub 3 micron particulates that make it through these cyclones, and most anything but a HEPA filter, and ultimately do the serious damage to our lungs.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    SuperBardley Thanks for the comment man!! I appreciate it!!

  • @Joewtny1

    @Joewtny1

    5 жыл бұрын

    SuperBardley o

  • @CCSandSonsWorkshop
    @CCSandSonsWorkshop5 жыл бұрын

    Great review! Thanks for taking the time to put it together. I need something for my shop and this helps!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    CCS and Sons Workshop Good stuff I’m glad I could help ya!!👍👊

  • @bobgordy7209
    @bobgordy72095 жыл бұрын

    Thanks. I bought one for my sm shop. Looks like for the money it will be fine!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Bob Gordy Thanks for watching.. it’s a pretty good bang for the buck!!

  • @funfreq9282
    @funfreq92824 жыл бұрын

    The $10 difference in the two units (by themselves) the cyclonic design of the Dust Deputy shows why it does a better job than the Thien separator design of the Dustopper. Great comparison vid!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Fun freq Thank you very much ! 👍👍

  • @kennethiman2691
    @kennethiman26914 жыл бұрын

    Excellent video.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Kenneth Iman Thank you very much Kenneth!!👍👍👊

  • @mikedeanda1217
    @mikedeanda12174 жыл бұрын

    Love that SF Banner, wave it high!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Mike DeAnda 👍👍👍👊

  • @duhhhh1723
    @duhhhh17234 жыл бұрын

    This demo is awesome,I subbed and liked.You helped Me get rid of a bird mite infestation in My yard. Thank You for uploading this.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Duhhhh Awesome!! I’m glad you enjoyed the video.. welcome to the channel

  • @stanmashek3085
    @stanmashek30853 жыл бұрын

    good video thank you

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you! 👍👍

  • @ericwood6521
    @ericwood65213 жыл бұрын

    Been using dust deputy for the past 3 years on my dewalt planer. No vacuum. Works great. Started of with the 5 gallon bucket, the graduated to a 55 gallon drum. That is the nice part about the DD, you can unbolt it and attach it to any container. Just remodeled my shop and bought the large one for the entire shop.

  • @Poor_Mans_DIY
    @Poor_Mans_DIY5 жыл бұрын

    Having a very small corner of a garage for a workshop, I wasn't too keen on getting the Dust Deputy even though it appears to be a great product. You have given a secondary option which may not be as good but is a whole lot better than allowing my wife in I to inhale harmful dust if we use nothing at all. Thank you so much for the video.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Poor Man's DIY Very Welcome.. Thanks for watching, glad I could help!

  • @martinbreece620Crafters
    @martinbreece620Crafters5 жыл бұрын

    That dust deputy is really good. Definitely worth the money. Thanks for the video Jake.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    martin Breece Thanks Martin!! It sure is Brother!! 👍👍

  • @OllieNorth509
    @OllieNorth5094 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for video Jake. I've had the DD for a couple years and love it. Was thinking about picking up one of the home depot collectors to add a second and save vertical space. After watching, I'll find room for a second DD

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Scott North 👍👍👍👍👍

  • @Name-js5uq
    @Name-js5uq4 жыл бұрын

    Great video 👍

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Steve Kay Thank you Steve. 👍👍

  • @arronaf
    @arronaf5 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for doing this review. I have always been curious how these two went head to head. Good job showing the advantages of both. I have a garage shop on a budget and have the duststopper. But appreciate seeing how it compares. Thank you!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Arron Stanley Thanks for the comment Arron! I was curious myself and am happy I compared them.. thanks for stopping by!

  • @gregcalvert9208
    @gregcalvert92082 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    2 жыл бұрын

    👍👍👊

  • @rustysawyers5109
    @rustysawyers51094 жыл бұрын

    Good video and keep up the good work....

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rusty Sawyers Thank you Rusty!! 👍👍👊

  • @chucksmith3441
    @chucksmith34412 жыл бұрын

    Nice job Jake! I'm the guy that always feels better using more high end equiptment but buy showing this video, you definitely ha shown that this budget and time saving tool can do an extremely good job, with little to no setup time, and takes up less floor space with the vacuum working space...thanks for the education and keep up the great test comparisons!👍

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Chuck! 👍👍

  • @MikeC19100
    @MikeC19100 Жыл бұрын

    Good video detailing the two dust collection systems. The shop vac you use is the model I wish I had in my shop. I have the DustStopper and the DustRight (blue barrel). I noticed that the Dust Stopper was quite a bit louder, or at least the pitch was higher, and I had to put some foam tape on the lid to quiet it down. Jay Bates created a nice dust collection stand that was on wheels with the sweeper on the bottom and the dust collector sat on a shelf over the sweeper. I made a similar one for my DustStopper with an older Craftsman sweeper and it works just fine in that configuration.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you Mike .. Jay Bates does awesome stuff.. glad you enjoyed the video

  • @keithjohnson6888
    @keithjohnson68885 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Keith Johnson Thank you Keith!! 👍👍

  • @waynebooker498
    @waynebooker4983 жыл бұрын

    I have this on my shopvac and I like it pretty well.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    wayne booker Awesome.. Thank you for watching. 👍👍

  • @photonashville
    @photonashville5 жыл бұрын

    Different products hitting diffrent pricepoints. Both do well for what they are. I have several Dustoppers now for 5 months or so since they are small and cheap and do fine. Good video, useful comparison.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    photonashville Thank you!! Glad you enjoyed!! 👍👍👊👊

  • @benjamindebellis6664
    @benjamindebellis66645 жыл бұрын

    I actually have both also. Both are on rollers and available . But, as you saw in your video the Dustopper lets the fine sawdust go on through to the vacuum. So, I still have a filter getting clogged with fine dust. As a result, only use the Dustopper around the lathe. Bigger chips, less fine dust. Very good video proving my results are similar to yours.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Benjamin DeBellis Thank you for watching. I’m glad you enjoyed it and confirmed my results. 👍👍

  • @johnfithian-franks8276
    @johnfithian-franks82765 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jake, I bought a Dust Deputy (Top part only) about 6 months ago but have not been able to fit it yet due to ill health and weather (my shop is unheated) here in the UK we have B&Q and they sell the Dustopper but not the buckets (another reason I haven't installed it yet). After seeing your test I am glad I went with the Dust Deputy and I will find a bucket somewhere soon. Thanks for the video and I hope you have a good new year

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    John Fithian-Franks You have a good new year as well! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!!👍👍

  • @JakeThompson
    @JakeThompson5 жыл бұрын

    Hello Everyone, Here is a link to the NEW Dust Deputy 2.5 kzread.info/dash/bejne/maSBo5RvcpzfZLQ.html

  • @23fields

    @23fields

    5 жыл бұрын

    i use the bucket head from home depot on the mitersaw ill pair them see how it works lol

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Frankie's CNC & Woodworking channel niiiice!!!

  • @amp12345amp

    @amp12345amp

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@23fields Did you do this pairing yet? I am curious to know if the Home Depot Buckethead vacuum is powerful enough to work with the Home Depot Dustopper to provide adequate dust collection. Please let everyone know what you find out.

  • @23fields

    @23fields

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@amp12345amp As of now I havent yet the dustopper is still in the box. im sure the pair will work but not sure how efficient it will be.

  • @amp12345amp

    @amp12345amp

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@23fields ok thanks. I think I had even asked the engineer who created the Dustopper if those items would work well together but off the top of my head I can't remember if or how he replied. Unfortunately, I can't even find the Dustopper in any of my local Home Depots. I go to the stores and it says it is in stock but no one in the store can ever find one. Go figure. Guess I will have to eventually order it online.

  • @bond00745
    @bond007455 жыл бұрын

    Just FYI, it’s not really about keeping the walls of your shop vac clean, it is in the importance of a clean filter. A dirty filter reduces efficiency and causes the motor to work harder. The dust deputy is worth the investment considering initial cost of your shop vac and replacement filters! Dust deputy is superior in not only how well it works but in money saved in the long run, cleaning the inside of your shop vac should be less frustrating than spending money repeatedly on filters and replacing vacs due to burnt up motors. Thanks for listening and happy woodworking. Great video!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    bond00745 Thank you... Thanks for watching and the feedback! 👍👍

  • @7MileDesigns
    @7MileDesigns5 жыл бұрын

    I like it! I'm glad to know the dust stopper is at least in the fight. One of these days I'll put on my big girl pants and get a real dust collection system and upgrade from the dust stopper.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    7 Mile Designs lol The Dustopper is definitely in the fight just in price and convenience!! I guess I had my big girl pants on for a while!.😂😂

  • @baconsledge
    @baconsledge4 жыл бұрын

    I have two DustDeputies from Menards (Wisconsin) and have used them with my cnc router for 10 years...rarely have to do anything with the shop vac except blow off the filter every other year.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bob Stout This is my experience too!!

  • @timberbucketsphil6818
    @timberbucketsphil68185 жыл бұрын

    Hey man great job I am 67 retired an i am a cooper I make wood buckets wash tubs of all sizes an wood beer stines . I have a dust deputy works really good . I went to the grocery store a found a old grocery cart that they were going to dispose of an put the dust system on it .now I can roll it any place in the shop .rockler sells nice wheels an has a super lot of dust fittings, good job man

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Philip Selman Niiice!! I’m going to go look for a shopping cart.. 😄😄👍👍👊👊

  • @billnu
    @billnu4 жыл бұрын

    Just bought that vac switch. Genius item.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    billnu I love it!! It’s super convenient!!

  • @larrygillespie1857
    @larrygillespie18574 жыл бұрын

    I used to have a cyclone type and i changed bags on my fein all the time. Then i got a deputy and in for years ive changed one bag saving me quite a few bucks. Luv luv the deputy.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Larry Gillespie Me too.. The other one is ok, but there really is a clear winner.

  • @dougprentice1363
    @dougprentice13635 жыл бұрын

    Nice job.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Doug Prentice Thank you for watching!! Glad you enjoyed!👍👊

  • @moosternp
    @moosternp4 жыл бұрын

    This is a really clear comparison. I would like the see the filter before and after the test just to compare the amount of fine dust that gets through the cyclone. Secondly after seeing the comparison I am wondering why the vac can’t be modified to eliminate the cyclone separator. Again nice job your comparison answered many of my question and it was well presented..

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nelson V. Pavao After the dust deputy the filter was still clean.. and after the Dustopper it has a light coat of dust on it..

  • @user-ty2uz4gb7v

    @user-ty2uz4gb7v

    2 жыл бұрын

    Good point, a cyclone should really be integrated in to shop vacs.

  • @hfjeff2736
    @hfjeff27364 жыл бұрын

    Nice comparison of these 2 dust separators. Exactly what I was looking for. I was looking at the DD prior to knowing HD carried the Dustopper. Well done and to the point. Thanks. Glad to see you are a football fan. Go Packers.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Go Pack Go!!! 👍👍

  • @grapedog1
    @grapedog15 жыл бұрын

    Well done video

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Craig Moore Thank you for watching!! Glad you enjoyed!!

  • @gauloisrefractaire3492
    @gauloisrefractaire34922 жыл бұрын

    Comparatif très utile merci 🍻

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    2 жыл бұрын

    👍👍

  • @kencorsell8087
    @kencorsell80874 жыл бұрын

    That was an impressive comparison! It would have been interesting to take the same vacuum air flow reading on your Oneida cyclone that’s been in use for two years to see how difference there was with the new Oneida. The real benefit a cyclone brings is keeping your filter as clean as possible so it’s continually running at peak efficiency. Yes it does save money and time not having to replace filters all the time, but keeping that dust off the filter completely lets the vacuum run at max power indefinitely. Most professional commercial dust collection systems have a filter shake down period after the unit is turned off to rid the filter of any collected dust continually.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ken Corsell 👍👍👍

  • @tonylawrence9157

    @tonylawrence9157

    Жыл бұрын

    Filter shake down is indispensable, speaking from experience.

  • @dennisburden9384
    @dennisburden93842 жыл бұрын

    I think you did a great job,I got what I wanted to know out of tape thanks.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    2 жыл бұрын

    Very welcome Dennis! 😀😀

  • @donalddobbs6962
    @donalddobbs69624 жыл бұрын

    Good job just purchased the dust stopper and wondered how well it worked compared to the other ones

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Donald Dobbs Thank you!! 👍👍👊

  • @stopdrinkingleftskoolaid6510
    @stopdrinkingleftskoolaid65105 жыл бұрын

    Jake, thanks for the great video. I didn’t know Home Depot had this. I need this to suck the ashes out of my wood burning stove insert because just using the wet dry vac spews fine dust into the air. Looking forward to trying it out. Thanks and thanks for keeping it simple without the usual personality quirks some people feel the need to include.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Evan Sarris Sometimes I do silly stuff, but on things like this I’m just showing what I find.. now my project videos can get a little funny, I’m glad you enjoyed it and thanks for stopping by!!👍👍👍

  • @PARIS8500

    @PARIS8500

    5 жыл бұрын

    Evan, let us know how the Dustopper or Cyclone worked out for you. I need to contain Thinset mortar, drywall dust, sander shavings, etc.

  • @24revealer

    @24revealer

    4 жыл бұрын

    i made a small cyclone from sheet metal that works as good as the Dust Deputy. The ashes in my pellet stove are so light that some still makes it into my vacuum. I don't think the home depot model would work very well for ashes at all.

  • @jkg6211

    @jkg6211

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@24revealer The Duststopper DOES work well with ashes, sheetrock dust, etc... even gelcoat dust. But stopping 100% of something as fine as ashes from reaching the vac filter? Nope... NOTHING will. That's what the dust bags that go inside the vac are for - it acts as a "prefilter" for your vac's main filter. These cyclone filters are only designed to capture the majority of the crap before it makes it's way to your vac. If you want to vacuum wood or coal ashes from your fireplace, use a cyclone, dustbag, AND filter on your system. But be aware - it's still not going to capture 100% of everything. Nothing can, when it comes to something as super fine as ashes.

  • @bigscreenbird8198
    @bigscreenbird81985 жыл бұрын

    Yep I really like that dust stopper. I don’t have a full dust collection system and this would be great until I got the system I want!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    bigscreen bird Heck yeah Bird-Man!! It’s pretty cool!!

  • @frankyvee1
    @frankyvee13 жыл бұрын

    The vertical length of the entire system is a huge factor in filtering out the fine dust. The taller the overall system the less dust will get sucked in by the intake. I built a similar system to the dust stopper using one bucket with PVC couplers and elbows. I was getting a lot of dust sucked back into the intake. I modified the design and added a second bucket to the top of the first bucket doubling the vertical height. Just that one modification made a huge difference. I was getting no dust coming back to my vacuum.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    👍👍👍

  • @viperboi4149
    @viperboi41493 жыл бұрын

    I did not know the dustopper is avaliable at home depot this fits under the counter miter saw station, and it looks to work good, thanks for the video...

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Icey Viper Absolutely!! Thank you for watching!! 👍👍

  • @dannyscobee6530
    @dannyscobee65305 жыл бұрын

    I recently got the duststopper. I knew going in it wasn’t as efficient as the dust deputy. I do run a dust bag in my shop vac & as long as I dump the dust bucket regularly, everything stays pretty clean & works well enough.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Danny Scobee I’m not sure how your comment got past me, but it did. The bag is a good idea, I’ve ran mine on the miter saw this entire time.. the shop vac is pretty clean. 👍👍

  • @joedance14
    @joedance144 жыл бұрын

    Nice presentation. Suggestion: put a bag in the shop vac. With a dust separator and bag, almost no dust will get to the filter.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Joe Dance 👍👍👍

  • @komitadjie
    @komitadjie5 жыл бұрын

    Couple other things that might end up influencing the testing as well - the dust deputy sits higher on the bucket, with a considerably greater distance between the intake to the vacuum and the top level of the bucket. You can fill it a lot fuller between dumpings without having any get sucked over. Also, I've found that my shop vac works best with a filter bag, in place of the can when I'm using my dust deputy. The dust that DOES come over tends to be extremely fine, and the far greater surface area of the bag really helps keep the vacuum flowing freely over a longer time. :)

  • @bobcatt2294

    @bobcatt2294

    4 жыл бұрын

    Dan - I think the major difference is the narrow tapered tunnel (throat) of the Dust Deputy allows greater vortexing and air speed thus moving the particles in the Dust Deputy chamber at a faster rate. The result is that the outlet, while using the Dust Deputy are less likely to sent these particles to the vac. The overall CFM (cubic feet per minute) is much greater in the Dust Deputy whereas the Dustopper chamber is too large to create a fast directed turbulent vortex. To remedy the less efficient Dustopper, you would need to built a partition within the bucket with a configuration to move the air in a vortex.

  • @wb_finewoodworking
    @wb_finewoodworking5 жыл бұрын

    Hi Jake. I viewed this again after you mentioned it in your Shop Update. As an Oneida DD owner I agree that it does a great job separating out dust and wood chips and keeping it all out of the vacuum. What was interesting is that the Home Depot separator lets the really fine dust through. That’s the dust that will quickly clog up the vacuum’s filter. That’s one of the things I’m trying to avoid. In my opinion the savings is bags and filters over the years have more than paid for the Dust Deputies that I have in my shop. When it comes to my Festool vac that’s saying a lot.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    WB Fine Woodworking 👍👍👍😄

  • @michaelpatria2111

    @michaelpatria2111

    5 жыл бұрын

    Yes WB, This is where we need to really test these things. No offence Jake, but the dust in the bottom of the bin isn't the real issue; The real issue is the clogging of the filter by small particles. Maybe weighing the filter before and after or weighing the dust before vacuuming and comparing the differences is the better demonstrator of efficiency.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Michael Patria No offense taken. Weighing the filters would probably be a great way to compare the two.

  • @billofalltrades1468
    @billofalltrades14683 жыл бұрын

    I like my home depot dust stopper. I have a 1.5 car garage, really helps saving space. I do metal work, weld and wood work plus a riding lawn mower and such.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome. I like mine too.

  • @sumosprojects
    @sumosprojects5 жыл бұрын

    Cool comparison mate, I’d probably opt the Oneida as it’s been more so tested & targeted at Woodshops but either way they both do the same job, hey your channel is booming so keep up the Grouse work 👍👍👍

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    Sumo's Projects Thank you Brother!! The Oneida is hands down the best performing. But to each their own on what they need in their shops!! You keep it up too buddy!!

  • @adalos1953
    @adalos19533 жыл бұрын

    The dustopper is essentially plug and play, which makes it much more consumer friendly at the cost of slightly lower performance. I ended up opting for the dustopper for its ease of use, speed of implementation, and lower profile enabling it to fit into spaces the dust deputy can't. If I had unlimited space and time, I'd go with the DD, but since I have 100 other things going on I opted for the DS so I didn't have to spend half a day setting up my dust collection.

  • @shawnp6653
    @shawnp66534 жыл бұрын

    Nice video Jake - thanks for the time & effort you put into it. I'm hoping to get into a bit of DIY/home repair/woodworking very soon - this helped me sort out what I needed to do for dust collection when I can't roll out into the driveway to work. I do have a question slightly related to the topic - can you recommend a source for reducers/adapters for the hose to tool dust port connection point? It seems there is no standard :) PS: Thanks for the link somewhere below on the Ridgid vac, looks like a really good one!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Shawn P Thank you for watching, I’m happy to help.. dust right small hose adapter set works pretty well to connect tools. Good luck and thanks for watching!!

  • @super-z8943
    @super-z89432 жыл бұрын

    Duststopper inlet allows connection of 2.5 inch hose, so the inlet dia should be almost that. I don't know exact because it isn't mentioned anywhere. Dust deputy mentions the inner dia of the taper input as 1.75 inch. Which leads to a big problem! One has an area almost double of another. Dust deputy needs anemometer reading double that of duststoppor to have same CFM. You could have leveled the parameters by connecting same hose with required couplers. Great review, technical blunder which should've been a easy fix. Physics says, a lower radius cyclone ( dust deputy) will work better than a higher radius cyclone ( dust stopper) for separating out finer particles which compromising pressure drop and CFM. Most reviews agree to this.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    2 жыл бұрын

    👍👍

  • @GSimon850
    @GSimon8505 жыл бұрын

    For someone who is a into hobby wood work in a small man cave and wants to keep a second hand home upright vacuum clean also has limited space I think this is ideal, thanks for the comparison between an profession setup to a cheap hobbyist setup. Cheers buddy

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    GSimon850 Glad you enjoyed and happy I could help. 👍👍

  • @lry76
    @lry763 жыл бұрын

    Great video. I could've co-hosted this video with you. I bought the DD, and while it worked great, I did have space constraints. I sold it, and bought the DS. If the DD picked up 99% of dust, I would say the DS picks up 97% of dust. So having the DS at hand the cost is worth it for me.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome.. 👍👍👍

  • @bobcade1002
    @bobcade10024 жыл бұрын

    Well ............. that sucked! But in a good way. Thanks for taking the time to show us the difference. I was particularly impressed by the Dust Deputy!

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Bob Cade The dust Deputy is definitely a step up..👍👍

  • @patcht2523
    @patcht25234 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done Jake! Great Objective review and comparison between these two great Ideas that been around since my days in Trade School In the Late 70s. Dusty Deputy and HD DustTopper both bring us better health and easier removal of dust waste. Affordable Dust separation filtration is a Great leap forward to our health as full or part time woodworkers. I have watch, read many comparison. It is my Hope that these items become available on every shelf in the world to help make our air Healthier for all shops... Dust Separation should be a standard concept and no shop Vac System should be sold without these product being right next to them on the shelf. At least not in my Lowes / Home Depots in Harrisburg Area. Thank you Jake. So Who will be the inventor that makes a Shop VAC with this CYCLONE Dust Separator BUILT INTO THE UNIT?????

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    4 жыл бұрын

    Patch T Thank you Patch!! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!

  • @stephenlubin3342
    @stephenlubin33423 жыл бұрын

    I was going to make a dust stopper but decided to just go with the one from Home Depot for $50. One of the best things I did. I have used this with my planer, jointer, and router table. I have a dual hose system on the router table. With my 6 hp Baur shop vac and this dust collector, every bit of dust and wood shavings were picked up. There was just about nothing in the shop vac bucket. Highly recommend.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Awesome!👍👍

  • @therealsparkman
    @therealsparkman5 жыл бұрын

    With the minuscule amount of residue from the Dustopper, I don't think that one has to spend a whole lot of money on buying an expensive unit for the sake of what? Cleaning a little bit of sawdust out of the canister. If one was so inclined, they could buy a bag to put in the vacuum as an added alternative to pick up that little bit of dust, and it will take forever to fill it up. This was a good comparison video, though. Thanks for doing this.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    5 жыл бұрын

    therealsparkman Thanks for watching.. I’m glad you got something out of it!! 👍👊

  • @drstampfli

    @drstampfli

    5 жыл бұрын

    The dust deputy saves you from cleaning the vacuum filter every few weeks and replacing it a couple times a year. The other one won’t.

  • @therealsparkman

    @therealsparkman

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@drstampfli Well, compared to what I am normally accustomed to, replacing bags and cleaning a filter, it is still a lot better. I can live with cleaning my filter every couple of weeks.

  • @karlriley1314
    @karlriley13143 жыл бұрын

    I have 2 of the Medal DD and one is on top of a 55 gal drum since 1990 way b4 ONEIDA had the idea and it works great and I don't have to empty it as often the other one is on there 5 gal bucket and I empty it often. They are in 2 different locations, garage and work shop.

  • @JakeThompson

    @JakeThompson

    3 жыл бұрын

    Karl Riley Super cool!!

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