Okay boys, time for a “Part Two”, if you will.

@georgevids2131

Ай бұрын

was looking for this comment

@JOhnDoe-pi9jj

Ай бұрын

My loin aches for this 😅

@Caanen

Ай бұрын

Any picks on who will hate it?

@blueshit199

Ай бұрын

@@Caanen me!

@JohnsRoses

Ай бұрын

I doubt they'll do anything big for part 2

Whoever edited this deserves a raise. They cropped the entire thing so that not one frame revealed Mike being passed out on the floor next to their feet.

@CraniumOnEmpty

2 жыл бұрын

Passed out? I thought they hog tied him behind the camera.

@LordSathar

2 жыл бұрын

he was mumbling something about the pug being in Star Trek

@thehand7902

2 жыл бұрын

You mean Baron Fartbag?

@howler9171

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Mike edits all their videos

@michaeloftaoism

2 жыл бұрын

@@CraniumOnEmpty 🤣🤣🤣

I love how in Dune universe, human technology has advanced so much that combat needed to regress to older ways of fighting.

@KHR0M3K0R4N

Жыл бұрын

It's very reflective of actual technological progress throughout history. Like, how armor goes in and out of "fashion" because of the advancement of weaponry that can pierce it.

@L1VE3V1L

11 ай бұрын

It was very clever.

@silverhawkroman

11 ай бұрын

​@@KHR0M3K0R4N I find it hard to believe to have a missile blocking shield that can't block a spear 😂😂

@KHR0M3K0R4N

11 ай бұрын

@@silverhawkroman Shields have to allow the transfer of air otherwise people would suffocate inside of them

@IronMan9771

11 ай бұрын

@@silverhawkroman If you're talking about the movie: did you watch it? It works by slowing things down. If someone threw a spear, it would hit the shield and stop. The spear would only go through the shield if someone was holding it and applied a slow, consistent pressure. A normal missile would probably hit the shield and just immediately explode, but we're also shown that the Harkonnens have advanced weapons that are able to apply their own consistent pressure and propel themselves through the shields, like the darts or bombs. If you're talking about real life: Flares. They work against missiles, don't work against spears

The worms "liquifying" the sand is an absolutely genius idea. Not only it is a real physical effect but it also makes sense for the worms to do it given that they have to "swim" through the sand.

@80studios16

Ай бұрын

cymatics 😎

@viscountalpha

Ай бұрын

The worms would have to expell lots of gas for it to become a fludized sand bed. Maybe the planets core is gas.

@azure8909

Ай бұрын

Frank Herbert was a geologist and I always remember opening up the book in my teens and reading the incredibly descriptive passages describing the landscape. Little touches like this are so genius

@runningsandwich

Ай бұрын

Vibrations could do it​@@viscountalpha

@adora_was_taken

20 күн бұрын

@@viscountalpha more likely it's a frequency thing

I liked Stellan Skarsdgaard as Baron Harkonnen, but I think Rich Evans would have been perfect for the role.

@alabamawyatt5490

2 жыл бұрын

he didn't do anything with it, it was so monotone, and I like the actor he was amazing in fincher's dragon tattoo

@Foamypeon

2 жыл бұрын

I really liked his quiet and sinister take on the time

@Theoppositesex

2 жыл бұрын

They'll get Rich Evans for the Disney Plus series.

@ArkhanNightman

2 жыл бұрын

I think the guy who plays Plinket would also be okay.

@PittsburghSonido

2 жыл бұрын

HE BROKE NEW GROUNDDDD!!!

Mike is being restrained because the sole presence of Patrick Stewart in the old Dune movie would''ve set off a 10 min tangent about the episodes of TNG it reminds him of, like Final Mission.

@danielmead146

2 жыл бұрын

the water must flow

@Half_Finis

2 жыл бұрын

Probably why he wasn't allowed!

@tetryst

2 жыл бұрын

"Mike you wanna talk about the new Dune movie?" "nah." "but it's just like Star Trek!" "Not really tho." "..." "..." "..." "So when are we gonna shoot that The Good, The Bad, Dune re:view?"

@G7M9W

2 жыл бұрын

Arrakis, when the spice flowed

@kalibos

2 жыл бұрын

@@G7M9W Atreides, his eyes uncovered!

My personal favorite part about Dune is the bizarre names. No other piece of media would have a character named Feyd-Rautha Harkonen and Duncan Idaho in the same story and take itself seriously

@GoodAvatar-ut5pq

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Dune was the first time I started paying attention to that kind of thing in sci-fi. "I am Blangogar, Lord of the Eight Peaks and Leader of it's peoples. This is Dave."

@charlie-obrien

Жыл бұрын

The Dune Empire has over 10,000 planets... But here on Earth we have exactly that situation. We have people named Joe Montana and also Boutros Boutros-Ghali. So, just because they don't live down the street from you.

@Superphilipp

Жыл бұрын

TV Tropes -> Aerith and Bob

@nicholascage3400

Жыл бұрын

@@charlie-obrien Over 10,000 somewhat underballs it; in the 5th book, the original imperium is referred to as The Million Worlds; itself admitted to be an underball. Granted, it was 5,000 years of time between the reign of Shaddam IV and the 5th book, but for 3,500 years of that time people were deliberately kept from colonizing new worlds. I liked the way in which old places and names were preserved in Dune, despite few people having any clue what the name used to mean. But a fair point in that a broad spread in names isn't something we should be surprised at, it's just unfortunate that many scifi and fantasy worlds either stick to culturally conventional names or fantasy names. Feyd-Rautha Harkonnen being a blend between Turkic(?) and Finnish is a fun example of scifi naming, as it and many other elements hint at the idea that human cultures have all mixed and mutated in the milennia since we left Earth.

@michaellepine7981

Жыл бұрын

Shot of Sting standing in a doorway, all greased up and wearing nothing but a sparkly purple speedo: “I WILL KILL HIM!”

That opening sketch is amazing. Dude holding his phone straight out for the other guy to watch the entire Dune 2021. That made me so happy.

@bhaalgorn

2 жыл бұрын

that dude and guy are hack and fraud, thank you very much

@itsd0nk

2 жыл бұрын

And the soundtrack chosen as the “movie’s sound” made all the more hilarious. Right as the sweeping choir chants start pumping in, the hard cut. Their comedic editing is the best.

@ivosamuelgiosadominguez6649

2 жыл бұрын

Not to mention, doing this sketch when reviewing a Lynch movie, who is infamous for his "film on phone" speech.

@Sea_Nut

2 жыл бұрын

@@ivosamuelgiosadominguez6649 it’s like poetry they rhyme

@eliastorres4461

2 жыл бұрын

Can't help but feel like it's a poke at that David Lynch interview where he talks about how you "can't truly experience the magic of cinema on your fuckin' phone." lol

This video would have been a masterpiece if it was just 50 minutes of Jay showing Dune to Colin through a phone.

@TheGoukaruma

2 жыл бұрын

David Lynch would love that.

@cameronmitchell8180

2 жыл бұрын

Lmaoooooo

@saar1707

2 жыл бұрын

Get out of my head!

@Omenshaper

2 жыл бұрын

That's 100% what I was expecting. Thought it was gonna be another Transformers 5 situation.

@TheBuilderize

2 жыл бұрын

Get real.

Mike would have loved this video. Rest in peace.

@Freddedonna

2 жыл бұрын

Can't believe his liver lasted this long RIP

@AspenBrightsoul

2 жыл бұрын

We all saw this coming, Rich had to kill him before he became too powerful.

@justincoleman3805

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody ever really dies.

@ieatsand9259

2 жыл бұрын

No one’s ever really gone

@KronnangDunn

2 жыл бұрын

Best in Pieces

The 3 hour Spicediver fan edit of the David Lynch Dune that readds a ton of cut scenes is a legitimate masterpiece. I really wish that Lynch had final cut.

@babyBELUGAr

Жыл бұрын

Is this something easily available or do I need to go to the high seas to find it?

@jimb0e186

Жыл бұрын

@@babyBELUGAr it’s on KZread in good quality. At least it was like a month ago when I last checked

@babyBELUGAr

Жыл бұрын

@@jimb0e186 thanks dogg

@MrDrProfessorPurple

10 ай бұрын

It's actually sickening how many films that flopped would have been better versions of themselves if studios didn't waste money on reshoots to CUT critical scenes, instead of spending half that money on letting the fucking directors just make a good movie.

@lc9245

9 ай бұрын

@@MrDrProfessorPurpleagree. Kingdom of Heaven was crucified by the cut. It’s more painful as apparently it was cut by Scott upon request by the studio.

Little bit of (non Star Trek) trivia: in both versions, the character of Stilgar, leader of the Fremen, is played by a James Bond villain: Everett McGill in the 1984 film (and crooked DEA agent Kilifer in 1989's License to Kill) and Javier Bardem in the 2021 one (who of course was the main villain, Raoul Silva, in 2012's Skyfall). EDIT: actually, make it THREE versions! I just found out Steven Berkoff, who was Soviet general Orlov in 1983's Octopussy opposite Roger Moore's Bond, also played Stilgar in the Children of Dune TV series!

@mrkeogh

2 жыл бұрын

I live for this sort of trivia.

@alexsilva28

2 жыл бұрын

Nice trivia. Both happen to be amongst the best Bond films

@Reticuli

2 жыл бұрын

dude

@cyrollan

2 жыл бұрын

@@Reticuli sweet!

@ggs27

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexsilva28 I have only watched the Daniel Craig ones but I ought to agree. Skyfall is a banger

I wish Rich didn’t force Susan to remove dislikes at gunpoint.

@dookie_12

2 жыл бұрын

Dislikes gave him AIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDSSSS

@cradiculous

2 жыл бұрын

@@dookie_12 OH MY GAWWWWWWWD

@Amitlu

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder what took them so long for my country

@jtom416

2 жыл бұрын

I can't get the satisfaction of looking at the dislikes on their Black Widow review now. Why Susan why?!?!

@elevationsickness8462

2 жыл бұрын

I thought Jack replaced Susan as head of KZread years ago

While we all really wanted mike to be here, let’s be honest. He’d talk for two hours about Captain Picard instead.

@nilsbossiusklintenberg3623

2 жыл бұрын

What’s happened to Mike?? :0

@cool_sword

2 жыл бұрын

@@nilsbossiusklintenberg3623 first man in the 21st century to contract and die of polio

@theheebs100

2 жыл бұрын

he ded

@cherif6648

2 жыл бұрын

Rip mike

@SomeFreakingCactus

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. Star Trek takes up too much space in his brain for this movie.

The idea of Jay just holding the phone for Colin instead of Colin holding it himself is so fucking funny

I love how Josh Brolin trained Chalamet for war. He's so aggressive, almost frustrated to see how nonchalant Chalamet was during training. The way he said about the Harkonnens: "They're not humans, they're BRUTAL!". I really felt the desperation in his voice. Perfectly cast in my opinion.

@BrandonGiordano

2 жыл бұрын

Word. The movie does such a good job of creating a sense of impending dread. From the get go you just feel this doom coming for house atreides. I felt it so strongly

@jb111082

2 жыл бұрын

You really feel it, don't you? I'm not sure if you know, but Duke Leto rescued Brolin's character Gurney from a Harkonen slave pit, so he knows first-hand what they're like.

@mallory-mae

Жыл бұрын

what being imprisoned on geidi prime does to a mf

@nicholascage3400

Жыл бұрын

Agreed that Brolin is a good cast for Gurney, but I dislike how they sap so much of Gurney's lightheartedness for the film. It makes his emotional flips far more jarring, as normally he's a very charismatic bard whose mannerisms hide his combat skills. But I feel a lot of characters in the film recieve too little characterization, really wish there was more time to develop the characters and world. Though I think a lot of modern shows and miniseries would be better off with just being cut down to movie length, Dune really needs more time to fully adapt.

@FabulousResults

Жыл бұрын

I feel like Josh Brolin is good in everything. Every time I see him it's a treat.

"It was a nightmare and.....It was a nightmare." That pause says more than a thousand words. You can see Lynch stare into the abyss in utter horror for a few seconds over what he endured.

@JonathanMickelson

2 жыл бұрын

And that’s saying something… considering what might constitute a ‘nightmare’ in David Finche’s mind *shudder*.

@EggBastion

2 жыл бұрын

@@JonathanMickelson layers

@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures

2 жыл бұрын

@@JonathanMickelson Actually Lynch's nightmares mainly revolve around inferior coffee and a crippling widespread cherry pie shortage. Phew.

@Tunkkis

Жыл бұрын

​@@PeterEvansPeteTakesPictures And not being able to embalm cat carcasses in tar pits.

The personal shield is one of my favorite tech of the book. The shield was invented to protect soldiers from projectiles so tactics had to change to get past them. But shields attract worms on Dune so the Fremen never use them and have different fighting tactics. Which is one reason they are so hard for off worlders to beat.

@craigboyle9714

2 жыл бұрын

I really liked the bad boxy CGI so much that I hate when it's like a field in the new one.

@gooner9038

2 жыл бұрын

@@craigboyle9714 Absolutely! That Lynchian version is orders of magnitude more interesting. I read somewhere it took 6 months to draw those boxes on each frame. It's a brilliant piece of cinematic craftsmanship.

@Popm3lon

2 жыл бұрын

Why do the shields not just protect from all attacks. Haven't read the books since my teens. It seems like some weird neo-feudal chivalry or code of ethics that just seem to be adherred to.

@AgentPothead

2 жыл бұрын

@@Popm3lon They're the energy field equivalent of a non newtonian fluid, specifically a shear thickening fluid. The faster an object tries to move through the shield the tighter the shield pushes back against it. It's like when people run across vats of cornstarch mixed with water, called oobleck. It only works if they run across. If they walk they just sink right in.

@Popm3lon

2 жыл бұрын

@@AgentPothead Gotcha, cheers! I suppose a full permanent shield would also make simple tasks like picking up or holding objects difficult.

please come back for Dune part 2 with a video like this

"Duncan Idaho feels kinda out of place" Exactly Jay, as he is supposed to lol

@blondie8372

Ай бұрын

why is he supposed to?

@ianramsey101

Ай бұрын

If they make the sequels, you will be seeing more of Idaho in clone form....

@thundercockjackson

Ай бұрын

​@@ianramsey101ghola*

Colin and Jay's reviews are as close as this channel gets to professionalism.

@remembertotakeshowerspleas355

2 жыл бұрын

I disagree, the Shatner video makes this one look like a high school project.

@Eamonshort1

2 жыл бұрын

Jays botw editing approaches professional as well in my opinion

@BradsGonnaPlay

2 жыл бұрын

Comedy =/= unprofessional

@ZakMcDonald64

2 жыл бұрын

Jim and Josh are really good together as well.

@radhinkabagaskara5595

2 жыл бұрын

What's so unprofessional on talking about every episodes of a hit TV show Star Trek: Picard?

Colin gets all kind of credit for knowing that it's the ships that fold space, and that the Navigators use prescience to guide the ship safely through folded space, by avoiding the possible futures in which the ship is destroyed in transit.

@ShishakliAus

2 жыл бұрын

No he gets credit for knowing the guild navigators are mostly human except for some flippers

@Llanowar_Kitten

2 жыл бұрын

But he loses points for not knowing that the navigators are not actually described in the original novel. Two guild ‘navigators’ are mentioned, but they are not mutated and it’s implied that they are not the type of navigator that actually guides ships. The description of the flippers, elongated heads, and v-shaped mouths are all in the sequels. It would be more faithful to the book if the new Dune never showed any mutated navigators in the second part.

@RedHeadKevin

2 жыл бұрын

The navigators are described in the second book, Dune Messiah. Edric the Guild Navigator is a fairly major character. So they'll have to figure it out before the Messiah movie. But you're right, Navigators don't appear in the novel. There are Guildsmen, but they're not at the point of living in a spice gas tank.

@newq

2 жыл бұрын

In addition to everything else people have said, the specific language of "folding space" wasn't used in the original novel. It's something David Lynch dreamed up for his adaptation.

@letosgoldenpath1993

2 жыл бұрын

@@newq This is true. I read the novel six times and the only time this "space fold" stuff is mentioned is in the 1984 movie and the Brian/Andersen books (which are suspect as to whether they are canon...I prefer the canon of the old Dune Encyclopedia, which also does not mention space folding). It is true that the Guild navigates FTL space travel by avoiding potential dangers in the path of the vessel through heightened sensory abilities that might be perceived as seeing future dangers across time.

Lynch's Dune is definitely a guilty pleasure for me. I love the weirdness, the camp, the effects. And no matter how much Lynch hated the film, it made the world a better place by introducing him to Kyle MacLachlan.

@timtheskeptic1147

Жыл бұрын

I love the things in it that you can't unsee. Like the guy that trips and falls behind the navigator tank, the harkonnen soldiers wearing black Converses, and Patrick Stewart's obvious stunt double.

@Desttro73

11 ай бұрын

@@timtheskeptic1147 I know, kinda like how in new version all the soldiers were wearing modern day tactical military gloves.

@hannibalburgers477

Ай бұрын

Everybody overexplaining everything in inner monologue was too tiresome to me. Not only that, they would go on and inner monologue the thing just told by the narration few seconds ago. I heard show, don't tell. I heard explicit delivery. It was the first time I saw a "Explicitly tell and then Explain more"

@hannibalburgers477

Ай бұрын

I loved the Harkonnen scenes tho. Edit: Semi-ironically, as the youth would call it

@DocSmouse

Ай бұрын

​@@Desttro73 I'm glad that this stuck out to someone else who wasn't just me

The inner monologue of the Lynch version might be an homage to the fact that the book is written in such a way we’re a passage written from one character’s point of view will include the inner thoughts of others in the scene. Also adds to the “witches’” (I know they have a proper name but I’m not going to even try to spell it right) have such powerful comprehension skills that they can nearly read the minds of others.

@misanthropicservitorofmars2116

9 ай бұрын

Yep, and Dennis adapted it perfectly. In movies, clunky narration to account for inner monologue makes the movie experience worse. Sure the new harkonnen isn’t as fun as lynch version. But it makes more sense for a movie. Most of harkonnens character came from his inner monologue. He usually barely spoke in the books.

@FatCatProductions

2 ай бұрын

My favorite meme about dune was a Twitter post saying: Every character in Dune: He nodded, in the secret way that his secret order trained him to do, indicating a hidden danger. "How brilliant," I thought to myself, "to the untrained observer he would appear to simply be nodding but careful observation shows his true intent."

Imagine all the TNG references Mike would have.

@jaydups999

2 жыл бұрын

We were on the verge of greatness we were this close

@kenny228s

2 жыл бұрын

Thank god he wasn’t around for this.

@Henskelion

2 жыл бұрын

Funny thing is there was a Dune game from the early 2000's that actually had Worf from TNG playing the Atreides Duke. Also not Star Trek, but one by the same studio (Westwood) in the late 90's had Gimli from LotR as its Atreides officer.

@andrewtaylor940

2 жыл бұрын

I will be so freaking pissed if Season 2 of Picard does not include him charging into battle carrying a dog.

@schigeraXD

2 жыл бұрын

@@Henskelion Yep, that was Emperor Battle for Dune. Probably one of Westwood's most underrated games. I still have a physical copy of it!

There actually was a reference to Lynch's Dune in the new film. The crew that comes to clean out the Baron's quarters after he was poisoned are dressed in the same black hazmat suits that a lot of Lynch's Harkonnens wore. Someone probably already replied with this, if not then cool.

@alanpennie8013

2 жыл бұрын

I think you're the first to mention it. Really happy that the new film is prepared to acknowledge its flawed but memorable precursor. It's gracious.

@larrylaffer3246

2 жыл бұрын

The Lynch Pin of references.

@jeremystatz8411

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like the appearance and behavior of the drone that attacks Paul in his quarters is highly influenced by the Lynch film, also.

@towersofgiza

2 жыл бұрын

Cool

@Henskelion

2 жыл бұрын

The hazmat guys in the Villeneuve one aren't wearing the same hazmat suits that the Sardaukar were, though they do look similar. It may have been an intentional reference, but might have also just been a practical decision since that scene has those guys entering a room full of toxic gas. Though, I do think there were some blatant references to Lynch's version, specifically the Baron being able to float. In the book, his antigravity device doesn't let him float, so much as simply walk around as a normal, non-obese person. Also I think the bullets that slow down before penetrating the shields in the Villeneuve version may have also been taken from the Lynch version since I don't recall that in the book, though I could be wrong about that.

I saw an interview with a lady that worked on the practical special effects for the David Lynch Dune film and I remember her saying they had to go out of their way to make extreme effort to make sure the sand worms didn't look like giant turds

@Digitaldendo

Ай бұрын

Gutted 😂

I just saw Dune 2 on an airplane where an obese lady kept adjusting and shaking the seat, and the young father next to me tried to corral his wandering toddler. I was hit in the face with a chair, and my balls were stepped on. I'd say this is the optimal way to view Dune 2, if possible.

The Airplane bit cut in after the Lynch Inner monologues absolutely killed me 😆🤣

The navigators quite literally navigate. Holtzmann Drives make folding space possible and the process itself feels near instantaneous to anyone on board. But they're still physically travelling through the space between the two folded points. In the Dune universe, thinking machines are banned, so they don't have the computational power necessary to plot the courses themselves. That's where navigators come in. Because they're prescient, they can see many possible futures and pick the safest one.

@OrgaNik_Music

2 жыл бұрын

Nerd.

@Msizyke41

2 жыл бұрын

which is also important to know because that is how paul beats the guild in the books because they focus so much on being safe that he knows they would not do anything risky in order to beat him

@erion1138

2 жыл бұрын

i liked how in villeneuve's version the heighliners act more as a gate to where ever people wanna go

@forgilageord

2 жыл бұрын

That never made sense to me, since if you're folding space rather than other forms of travelling faster than light, there wouldn't be anything between your origin and destination points, as they would be directly next to each other, and it would actually be instant.

@michaelbukowski7396

2 жыл бұрын

Since you’ve popped the seal on didactic nerd stuff, what’s with all the lasers? I thought the whole reason Dune was all knives and sh!t was because the Holtzman shield had a catastrophic interaction with lasers. And here they’re just blasting away with ultra violet lasers.

Just one note that the guild navigators are featured in the new film, though only briefly, during the ceremony with the imperial herald. They've got normally shaped bodies and can walk with their limbs but are wearing suits with helmets filled with orange spice gas.

@GeorgeEndress

2 жыл бұрын

Those aren't fully developed guild navigators, they're like stage 1 or 2 I think (from the little descriptions we get in the books) the 3rd stage navigators are the ones in the tanks

@misanthropicservitorofmars2116

9 ай бұрын

Those aren’t navigators, maybe on the path, but not actually guild navigators. Why would 3 navigators be standing around for a message delivery? That makes no sense. Navigators are incredibly important. They’d never just have 3 accompany an imperial herald on the ground. The reply commenter makes sense. They could be in training to become a navigator. But those certainly weren’t navigators. I assumed those were the guildsmen. Just regular “employees” of the guild. They’re such a powerful force that they can afford to constantly be engulfed in the spice. I actually thought it was super cool. Guildsman being able to live in a gas mask of melange. Like if rich people today wore marijuana gas masks constantly pumped with thc smoke.

@douggibson2030

Ай бұрын

@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116They're specifically called out as representatives from the guild, so quite possibly they exist specifically to fill that emissary role

@misanthropicservitorofmars2116

Ай бұрын

@@douggibson2030 that’s what I assumed, just guild representatives.

@Choom7

Ай бұрын

The travel "cost 3 navigators" there are 5 of the fish bowl helmet people.

Extremely funny that Jay doesn't even think Duncan Idaho isnt important enough to include in a Dune adaptation considering.... The deal with him in later books

@BinarySecond

2 жыл бұрын

It is a shame because in Dune he really is done dirty, Lynch Dune was worse, at least Momoa got the moment with Sardaukar in the corridor.

@Gum_Cuzzler

Жыл бұрын

His highest point in the saga is when he makes some lady orgasm just from watching him climb a wall. Frank Herbert definitely understands women.

@cathare4909

Жыл бұрын

He "lived" longer than any other character 🤣

@adamlouis3725

5 ай бұрын

what youre referring to is not cannon so it doesnt really count as spoilers. its fanfiction.

@ladnie9454

5 ай бұрын

@@adamlouis3725It was written by Frank Herbert so yes, it’s canon

The Reason Princess Irulan fades in and out at the beginning of the film is when they developed the film they found out the negative had scratches on it in several parts of the sequence, but Madsen had already flown home so rather than call her back they fade out when the scratches were about to appear and back in when they've gone !

@SuperCleary

2 жыл бұрын

That can’t be true. Amazing.

@andrewglazebrook1585

2 жыл бұрын

@@SuperCleary Oh it's true, it's either mentioned in the making of book by Ed Naha or the Cinefex !

@JonathanMickelson

2 жыл бұрын

It’s quite convenient that the scratches occurred right before the phrase “oh, I almost forgot.” Like…. REAL convenient.

@andrewglazebrook1585

2 жыл бұрын

@@JonathanMickelson That’s coincidence for ya!!

@charlesajones77

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewglazebrook1585 I have a local library that has the making of book. I'll have to go check it out and see if this is in there. I don't remember it, but I probably didn't read the whole thing.

Jay: Who even was Duncan Idaho, was he even in the books? Me: Oh, you have no idea.

@ben__6180

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully they do Dune Messiah so we get mecha-Momoa

@eh.2671

2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully they do God Emperor so we get to see women climaxing just from observing Momoa climbing a wall

@stefanfnord1757

2 жыл бұрын

@@eh.2671 Hopefully they do Chapterhouse because... porn...

@thebazhammer2610

2 жыл бұрын

It’s hilarious to me that if Denis adapted all of the Frank books, Jason Mamoa would be the only one in all but the last one. Isn’t it a younger Duncan Idaho in that one?

@DungeonGobbo

2 жыл бұрын

@@thebazhammer2610 Yeah and it's ghola clones out the wazoo throughout the series so in all seriousness they could be different castings in each movie and just be explained by the age differences of the clones Or CGI Momoa for years to come, who knows.

"the name Duncan Idaho sounds so out of place in this alien universe" the main character's name is Paul,

@RangerMcFriendly

Ай бұрын

His mom is named Jessica. Lol.

My only complaint about the new Dune is that we barely meet Yueh before he plays his big plot point and also that the mentats were left in the dust. It's really important that Paul has mentat training. So I guess a scene of Paul getting a checkup with the family physician and a lesson with Thufir would have been cool on that front. And while the 'slow blade' was talking about in that training session, it pretty much went out the window afterwards when Momoa's going ham on the sadukar. But very small nitpicks. Just like Jay was saying, I actually wouldn't have minded if it was longer. And I loved how they portrayed "THE VOICE." That was great.

@Tunkkis

Жыл бұрын

The shields were my biggest gripe after leaving the theater as well. Granted, I had not read the book before seeing the movie, but afterwards I've been listening to them in audio book format during family car rides. The further along we got, the less I liked the movie as an adaptation. The thing is, I tend to very easily fall asleep in cars, so I've slept through maybe a quarter of it, and going throught it again is probably in order.

@misanthropicservitorofmars2116

9 ай бұрын

@@TunkkisI just got to heretic of Dune a couple weeks ago. I love the new movie. I loved the new shields. Made it feel real. When watching combat. Sure some of the actors could have slowed their strikes to make it seem better, but it’s also a form of combat that almost no one alive could portray properly. No martial art on earth teaches to slowly stab. So while watching I can easily assume that whenever a red glow comes on the shield, that the person attacking went slow enough to get through.

@misanthropicservitorofmars2116

9 ай бұрын

True, boy calculators were left in the dust :’(

@SonofSethoitae

5 ай бұрын

It's weird how much of Thufir Hawat's role was left out relative to Duncan Idaho. Duncan's a pretty minor character in the first book, and Thufir is the guy masterminding the Atreides' strategy against the Harkonnens. Plus he trained Paul as a mentat (which we also don't see) which is part of the reason he ends up with prescience.

@skonenblades

5 ай бұрын

@@SonofSethoitaeyeah exactly

Okay, the pug is really pretty simple. Took me a long time too. It's just the Atreides's dog. Like the actual pet of the royal family. Gurney clings to it because it's the thing he managed to save.

@jaymorrison8419

2 жыл бұрын

i like that detail shows a sympathetic lynch

@jasonpapai73

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah we know why its in the film, but it's still a hilarious visual. Especially taken out of context.

@jamessmith7205

2 жыл бұрын

Such a great addition in showing how Gurney loves the family.

@vanyadolly

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamessmith7205 Yes, emotion. Love. Meanwhile the family seemed to be replaced with androids in the new version.

@curiositycloset2359

Ай бұрын

Just made me realise why the new haconans are pale (milky smooth) and hairless. And the fact the mentats don't get much of a part.

Jay: "Is that character (Duncan Idaho) even in the book?" *Duncan is the only character in ALL of the books. 😂

@innocentsmith6091

2 жыл бұрын

Duncans are the only characters, you mean.

@selekos

2 жыл бұрын

Because Duncans are practically clones we can say "Somehow Duncan returned".

@DIEGhostfish

2 жыл бұрын

Well, in some way at least. Although wait was he in the second? I thought they didn't start getting copies till the third and fourth?

@robertblume2951

2 жыл бұрын

@@selekos practically? You mean actually.

@nihalanand2690

2 жыл бұрын

@@DIEGhostfish the Duncan in Messiah was also a ghola, sent to kill Paul

The comment near the end that Lynch's film "felt like a nightmare" is spot-on, and my biggest takeaway from this discussion (which is excellent). For all its many faults, the Lynch film has that dark, claustrophobic, weird, terrifying quality that probably can't ever be repeated now. A "problematic" film, to say the least, but a unique one.

@13Psycho13

2 жыл бұрын

Wes Anderson would probably come closest nowadays, despite being completely different tonally.

@qty1315

2 жыл бұрын

The production was a mess. Lynch is at his best when he's allowed to do his thing, and he wasn't allowed to be David Lynch on Dune. Unfortunately, he isn't good at not being David Lynch and he knew that. He pretty much disowned the movie.

@Reticuli

2 жыл бұрын

@@13Psycho13 Hahahahahahahah

@steviegbcool

2 жыл бұрын

yes it kinda makes this film seem dull in comparison.

@TheSuperMegaPlus

2 жыл бұрын

@@13Psycho13 That's actually so accurate. huh...

Just for context, the first Dune novel is from 1965. Star Wars (1977). A Song of Ice and Fire (Game of Thrones books) from 1996. P.S. Jodorowsky's DUNE ended up becoming The Incal which is ,arguably, one of the best comicbooks ever created.

“It’s such a tragedy that you think you’ve seen a film on your FUCKING phone! GET REAL!” -David Lynch

"I don't know if David Lynch has ever read a book, period... Or seen a movie.... Or seen sculptures or paintings..." Obviously tongue in cheek to a certain extent, but it also makes a lot of sense considering how incredibly unique his style is. Everything Lynch does is so unapologetically Lynch, and I love it.

@jeffpalaganas7404

2 жыл бұрын

Its funny to note that lynches original painting and short films prior to Eraserhead are noted for being Francis Bacon imitations.

@_Uptilt

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffpalaganas7404 Oh, that IS funny! But out of all the famous artists I guess that would probably have to be the one to have inspired Lynch.

@jetaimemina

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffpalaganas7404 to be honest, Bacon's Pope Innocent paintings are bangin'

@paylmoffat3409

2 жыл бұрын

Lost Highway was Lynch’s best movie and he should have used Bill Pullman a lot more.

@paylmoffat3409

2 жыл бұрын

Everett McGill had a role of all off a couple minutes in Straigh Storey where he farewelled Richard Farnsworth on his epic lawn mower journey. In that short time he displayed emotion and genuine concern rarely seen in actors. Goes back to akin to Tony Quinn’s Oscar for about the same amount of time on screen. Same could be said for Harry Dean Stanton’s couple minutes at the end of the same movie. Tears welled up in my eyes about 3 seconds after he opened his mouth. Amazing short scenes that were those actors only scenes so they put everything into that scene.

If you were angry about Duncan Idaho dying, don't worry Noones ever really gone

@emorigio

2 жыл бұрын

Just like Rich Evans diabetes

@jacobjarzabek8208

Жыл бұрын

isnt he cloned like 50 times? ends up being a superbeing?

Glad to say that I like both versions. The Lynch version, despite the HUGE liberties it took with the source material had an amazing visual style and frankly I'm a sucker for pretty much anything Lynch does anyway. But, the style of it, the soundtrack, the visuals, the eccentric acting - it really felt like another time and place. I don't care it's niche, or a cult film, or that it bombed. I love it. But, I really, really liked Denis's film too. Very different, closer in some ways to the book than Lynch, further away in other places. A very different animal, but pretty damn good all the same.

@chiyo-chanholocaust8143

Жыл бұрын

I have never seen the David Lynch version, but from the few random clips they show here it doesn't even seem that both are supposed be based on same story, it's some WEIRD shit haha

Duncan Idaho's name works because for them, Earth is sort of a mythical land from pre-history. It'd be like one of our modern surnames like Beaumont that refers to a place that doesn't mean anything in particular to us anymore.

@Corbomite_Meatballs

2 жыл бұрын

Great, so in their time there's people running about with last names like "Carlsbad", "Tampa", "Mud Butte", and "Tightwad"

@Pyrotechnics45

2 жыл бұрын

@@Corbomite_Meatballs That's Duke Tightwad to you, sir!

@joshuatxuk

2 жыл бұрын

My father in law's lukewarm review of the 1984 rests entirely on the fact that a guy 10,000 years into the future, a future of multiple varied human societies on various planets with deeply shifted social and religious cultures, is named Duncan Idaho.

@tyrgoossens

2 жыл бұрын

Piter de Vries is basically a modern dutch name as well, though it would be spelled "Pieter". I always thought it was neat because you see historic words and phrases come back as well (eg. Landsraad, another dutch one) so why not names.

@trickster721

2 жыл бұрын

I thought Jay saying that didn't fit was strange, when the movie has a scene where a guy plays bagpipes in front of a spaceship.

My biggest complaint is that Josh Brolin didn’t charge into battle with a pug under one arm

@BullCityCocktails

2 жыл бұрын

thats in part 2

@reallylionbastard

2 жыл бұрын

Long live duke letooooo!

@coprographia

2 жыл бұрын

There’s still time.

@muhammadrifqi7308

Ай бұрын

​@@BullCityCocktails welp....

I got the vinyl soundtrack for David Lynch's Dune from a friend who found it in their shed, and I love how it's arranged. It's just all the things I love about the movie condensed into audio format.

@tamiwatchesstuff

Ай бұрын

I kinda wanted the Denis version to put in Toto's prophecy theme song as a big homage to the 1984 version.

I would pay so much goddamn money to see the Lynch directed Return of the Jedi. I can't even fathom what that would be like.

@joshuarose2039

Ай бұрын

Same

@Emapten

Ай бұрын

just like the one you we have today. George is the owner, His hired 'director' would just be a puppet. I enjoy Return the Jedi, but I know a creator doesn't hand over creative control that early in his career. He owns the spice/copyrights pulls the strings. @@joshuarose2039

But wait. What the Bene Gesserit do is much worse than what Colin says. They didn't plant prophecies on planets so they would believe in the Kwisatz Haderach when he came. They planted prophecies so should a Bene Gesserit become stranded on a planet somewhere, she can use the locals' religion (that the Bene Gesserit seeded) to help herself find safety and get back home. Which is exactly what Jessica is planning to do because she has heard keywords from the Fremen since they landed on Dune that these religious escape routes were instilled. It's so cynical and blew my 16 year old mind when I first read it. As I say, Dune is about (in part) the politics of religion and the religion of politics.

@Wobbothe3rd

2 жыл бұрын

Importamt comment. Great point.

@LosBerkos

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like a lot of effort for the event that you'd become stranded on some planet.

@Oreosforlunch

2 жыл бұрын

The second book is also about no matter how much you use religion to control society, you will lose control of that religion and it will eventually control you too.

@axonassault

2 жыл бұрын

@@Oreosforlunch Yes. Frank Herbert is none too kind toward religion in this series.

@Oreosforlunch

2 жыл бұрын

@@axonassault Which is ironic, because he has a better understanding of it compared to most sci-fi authors. Heinlain and Assimov were very anti-religious too but they didn't really know what they were talking about when they brought it up.

It's worth mentioning that space travel IS possible without Spice (It would have to be for them to have found Arrakis in the first place). It's just prohibitively dangerous. Something like 1 in 10 attempts result in the destruction of the ship.

@chainedlupine

2 жыл бұрын

Not only that, but the navigation computers had to be very smart machines -- Something which was disallowed after the Butlerian Jihad, where the new Space Pope said AIs were bad after a long war with the machines. Hence Mentats and analog controls in the ornithopers.

@talon12020

2 жыл бұрын

"Never tell me the odds!"

@eric.ko.

2 жыл бұрын

Dune lore is so good

@kuribayashi84

2 жыл бұрын

Before the properties of Spice was discovered, Humanity has spread among the stars using "conventional" methods of travel, meaning some sort of FTL-drive, which was a lot slower. Traveling between stars usually took weeks or even months, making Human-colonized space very hard, if not impossible, to govern.

@PIRAKAS666

2 жыл бұрын

@@chainedlupine Hmm sounds something like 40k

I literally come back to this video just to hear Colin say “ I’m gonna milk a cat” in a kid voice

Colin is the funniest guest, I wish he were on more often. Mike would have been great too but there's a danger he'd have hijacked the discussion to peddle his Star Trek religion again.

@moddler

2 жыл бұрын

Nice try, Colin.

@N.J237

2 жыл бұрын

blame canada

@MovieMagic515

2 жыл бұрын

I love Star Trek!

@Anenome5

2 жыл бұрын

Can't believe Mike wasn't in this, what a shame, biggest movie in years and Mike boycotts, sad.

@NathanDav42

2 жыл бұрын

I’d not say he’s the funniest, but his description of the David Carradine garden hose infomercial years before they watched it for BotW still kills me. He said Carradine’s dog was so embarrassed about the whole thing he just got up and walked away.

I genuinely thought that they would just never cover dune. But I’m so glad they did!!!!!

@WickedChild95

2 жыл бұрын

I kinda wanted them to just troll this in their videos for awhile lol

@Jaaaaaffff

2 жыл бұрын

I thought Mike had a LOT to say about Dune?

@MadMaxBible

2 жыл бұрын

I seriously thought they'd just have the two watch the whole film on a phone and never say a word about it.

@smallhatshatethetruth7933

2 жыл бұрын

@@WickedChild95 yeah was hoping for more trolling

@bearzerger

2 жыл бұрын

I thought they would keep it as a running joke.

As a kid I saw Lynch Dune before knowing anything about Lynch or Dune and loved it. Watching it later after becoming a fan of Lynch gave me a new appreciation for its weirdness.

The shields and sword fighting are one of the coolest concepts in Dune. The shields are highly effective against projectile weapons, discourage the use of laser weapons (as they cause a nuclear style explosion when they interact) and result in the need for highly skilled close-quarter hand-to-hand combat.

@Schwiegermutter

Жыл бұрын

The problem with that explosions is that nobody can tell the difference between them and real nukes. Who ever uses the banned nukes will be wiped out by the landsrat and all the other houses. Using nukes means total annihilation and the end of your liniage.

@misanthropicservitorofmars2116

9 ай бұрын

Makes laser weapons basically illegal since thermo-nuclear weaponry is outright banned by the laandsradt

@misanthropicservitorofmars2116

9 ай бұрын

So sending suicide squads of laser pistol equipped soldiers to intentionally blast Holtzmann shields is a war crime by every house and the imperial crown.

@misanthropicservitorofmars2116

9 ай бұрын

Like how the emperor couldn’t reveal he took part in the betrayal of house Atreides. It would mean every other house in the empire would turn against him. In the books, all the Sardukar are dressed as Harkonnen troops.

I don’t know why, but the idea of David Lynch as a man who has never read a book or seen a movie, sculpture, or painting had me laughing for over a solid minute. If I told someone watching Eraserhead or Mullholland Drive that as if it were an established fact, I wonder if they’d question it.

@cortarmstrong8768

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely not. Mullholland Drive was the first Lynch movie I had seen and I guarantee this thought came up in my then 14 year old mind

@Kikefriki

2 жыл бұрын

It is worth mentioning that Lynch loved Dune (the book) and that's why he took the job.

@kasperdjerns2865

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kikefriki That's a misunderstanding. David Lynch loves dune (the pile of sand). Which is why all his movies are as interesting as watching rocks move, and twice as slow

@somniansvulpes

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, I saw him say in an interview that he loves Kafka

@earlpipe9713

2 жыл бұрын

He just watches Rammstein videos and vintage snuff films, in fact of course

Not only are we getting both Dune movies in one Re:View, but ALSO getting Colin back in the hot seat!? You’re too kind to us RLM.

@mossbogger8366

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I was hoping for the other guy, you know the main one with the hair

@luiginastro8831

2 жыл бұрын

@@mossbogger8366 Rich Evans?

@bulbouspeach6270

2 жыл бұрын

Ruth Bader Ginsberg?

@RabbitShirak

2 жыл бұрын

The reviews must flow.

I think the most impressive part of Denis' Dune is that the book which seems to require a LOT of lore to understand, you get the general ideas with very little exposition.

I was a young kid when I first saw Dune and despite all it's flaws, I considered it a great movie. It's all so weird yet still feels realistic in some way.

I really respect that debatably obscure David Lynch reference to watching movies on a cell phone at the beginning

@vodkaboy

2 жыл бұрын

Haha

@roundabout468

2 жыл бұрын

GET REAL

I really wanted him to be holding the phone up to watch for the entire video

@darkpatches

2 жыл бұрын

Screen's too big. Much better to have viewed it on an Apple watch. Plus, they could have cuddled.

@zubrhero5270

2 жыл бұрын

I moved the mouse cursor over the screen to check to see how long the video was because I legitimately thought for a moment they might.

@EXMachina.

2 жыл бұрын

I hope for a Director's Cut version for this Dune review.

@WienerBrigadier

2 жыл бұрын

hahaha Like Andy Kaufman reading The Great Gatspy for 3 hours

@anthonydavis5679

2 жыл бұрын

I still haven't recovered from their Transformer reviews where they basically did just that for 25+ minutes, just went "nah" and then black screen.

First time viewing of your channel-- I appreciate your approach and style. Your humor is fresh AND refreshing. The interplay between you both is quite genuine. And your background knowledge is quite extensive. I enjoyed your review and have subscribed. Thank you!

@Heliosphan15

7 ай бұрын

Welcome! I hope you enjoy their other videos.

@stepheneaton4978

4 ай бұрын

Don't complement these hacks. They already have overinflated egos as it is. Unless you're talking about Rich Evans. The man is a treasure that must be protected at all costs.

The problem with adapting Dune is that one of the big themes in the book is "Plans within plans within plans" You'll often see an exchange between characters where they're saying one thing, thinking another and their body language is saying a third thing. All in a constant game of brain-chess to achieve something. As such the book often has pretty mundane conversations that carry an assload more meaning due to what's going on inside the participants heads. Lynch had the right idea having the inner monologue going, he just didn't...Do anything worthwhile with it. I think the biggest problem the new movie has is that it removed a lot of context, the best example of this is the scene where Jessica is picking out housekeepers. There's so much going on and at stake in that conversation but you only get it at a surface level because you're not hearing Jessica's thought process. If she had given the wrong name for the knife she'd have blown a massive change at some future turdery. And in the end she lucks into guessing the name the Fremen woman wanted to hear by misunderstanding the question and giving another answer, which happened to be correct. As is the scene makes very little sense and I have no idea why it wasn't cut.

@phschuble470

2 жыл бұрын

Bingo.

@DarkAngelEU

2 жыл бұрын

The question is, does it matter in the long run? I never read the books and I can tell from this one movie there is alot of masks going around, even within the family. No one's being truly honest, so why would I need to have all this interior monologue distracting me from what is a visual interpretation, not a literal adaption to the screen?

@Rufert

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkAngelEU It matters if the movie includes scenes where a seemingly ordinary exchange means something completely different that you need the underlying plot dump to understand.

@vanyadolly

2 жыл бұрын

I'm pro-monologue all the way. It's jarring to the viewer to an extent, but I do think it conveys important information about the world and the characters that we'd otherwise miss out on. My biggest issue with the remake was that it lacked so much in terms of character depth and motivation. After two hours I still had no idea who the characters were or why I should care about them.

@Yvellkan

2 жыл бұрын

@@DarkAngelEU yes it means a lot, the villeneuve movie basically missed out 90% of every characters motivations and the politics and just made a whole bunch of desert shots with some action in between

Lynch’s Garfield is something I never knew I wanted till now.

@Teknikfrik

2 жыл бұрын

More cat milking 😅

@larrylaffer3246

2 жыл бұрын

He'd probably make Gorefield a reality.

@ItDoesntMatterReally

2 жыл бұрын

Lynch needs to do the voice of Garfield, but they should never let him know that they're recording him. Just bug him and let him ramble for a few months about how much he hates cell phones and loves Laura Dern.

@skystarless

2 жыл бұрын

Don't look in Jon's basement......

@uknownada

2 жыл бұрын

Just watch Lasagna Cat

Uncensored quote: “When two people love each other, he puts his Chalamet in her Zendaya.” -Colin

Dune really needs to be a 7-10 season show to fully grasp the entire world and what's going on.

@vincehenriquez680

2 жыл бұрын

Probably why many book fans say the SyFy miniseries from the early 00's is the best adaptation.

@christophmahler

2 жыл бұрын

"Dune really needs to be a 7-10 season show (...)" It's interesting that this isn't adressed, despite comparing it to 'Game of Thrones' - which of course did fall apart like the Finch movie after the inexperienced directors lost the actual literary foundation... I agree with others that the SYFY mini-series is most faithful, but also encouraging to aproach the world in contrast to a BBC stage play.

@arek314

2 жыл бұрын

@@vincehenriquez680 yes! Also nas stellar soundtrack!

@RideAcrossTheRiver

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, give it to some modern writers who will "put their own spin on it" as in "based on characters and concepts by Frank Herbert"

@bajscast

15 күн бұрын

@@RideAcrossTheRiver I mean considering the first attempt at a Dune adaptation was Jodorowsky's Dune where he wanted to base most of it on a dream he had instead of basing it off the book, it's not a modern writer problem

The Lynch movie got me into reading the books. Which I am very thankful for. Love both films. Great to see you talk about them!

In response to Jay's shield comments: I think the idea behind the slow-blade shield ""weakness"" is that it's a compromise between allowing the shield user to pick up stuff and interact with the environment without the shield constantly pushing everything away and causing you to slip and slide along the ground cause your shield is repulsing it, etc etc. I always thought it was a brilliant idea

@nemo-zl1vm

2 жыл бұрын

That and you'll probably suffocate without at least a little air movement.

@DIEGhostfish

2 жыл бұрын

@@nemo-zl1vm Technically air moves really, REALLY fast. So there's something other than just speed involved in keeping air out (And you CAN dial it up to keep air out/in. Leto does it once.)

@uphilliceskater

2 жыл бұрын

The idea was an excuse for why bladed weapons are used in order to have the Italian city-states ambience.

@bigbakaboon

2 жыл бұрын

@@nemo-zl1vm in the book you can suffocate because air is moving to fast to get in. So you can't leave your shield on indefinitely

@charlesajones77

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigbakaboon Really? I don't remember that. The shields would have to let in air, or the user would suffocate almost immediately.

That scene of Paul riding the worm in the David Lynch version, with that soundtrack feels more like Flash Gordon. And I think I love it!

I can't believe they predicted that Chris Pratt Playing Garfield! lol

@jordandwiggins1026

21 күн бұрын

I don’t think they needed to predict it, pretty sure it was announced already

It is absolutely worth watching the 3 hour TV edit version imo. Even though there are scenes with the Fremin where they didn't add the blue eyes special effect, the extra time turns it from an incomprehensible mess to a somewhat understandable mess (plot wise).

Honestly thought the entire 50 minutes would be Jay showing Colin the movie on his phone, both staring emotionlessly at the screen, and I was prepared for it.

@ChristianTheChicken

2 жыл бұрын

same lol

The oppressive feeling people you’re talking about, with the weird throat chant, are not the Harkonnen, but another faction called Sardaukar. They are elite warriors of the emperor who later basically become guns for hire.

@noahs150

2 жыл бұрын

Iirc they're from some crap hole prison planet and supposed to be really ruthless, violent and scary. They're really competent, but not particularly good at asymmetrical desert warfare.

@gestaposantaclaus

2 жыл бұрын

@@noahs150 people also underestimate the Fremen so the Sardaukar expect an easy fight and by the time they learn otherwise it’s too late.

@AppleSauceGamingChannel

2 жыл бұрын

@@noahs150 Salusa Secundus. Though they are elite warriors they don't have millennia of desert warfare experience like the Fremen, so it mirrors the Lawrence of Arabia arch of the locals rising up against their imperial overlords.

@Kyle-sr6jm

2 жыл бұрын

Sardaukar, "We are raised in the toughest, most ruthless, conditions; ensuring only the most fearsome fighters survive." Fremen, "Hold my beer."

The Harkonnens in the 1984 version of Dune are basically the McPoyles in space.

I want someone to force David Lynch to direct a Marvel film

Did not expect this to be a re:view but honestly it fits

@daftbanna7202

2 жыл бұрын

@@justinstoll4955 wow crazy a whole month that must mean no one can talk about it

@Reggie1408

2 жыл бұрын

@@daftbanna7202 you can talk about it on re:view

@tiagogarcia50

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know... I kinda wish they waited for the Villeneuve Dune to be completed to contrast and compare with the Lynch one

@daftbanna7202

2 жыл бұрын

@@tiagogarcia50 what in 5 years

@shineon9715

2 жыл бұрын

@@daftbanna7202 it's supposed to come out in 2023

The spacing guild vacuum cleaner squad actually made sense to me, if spice is as valuable as everyone says it is then it actually makes sense to have a team follow you around hoovering up every last drop for later recovery/reuse. A bit like a pre-decriminalisation pothead looking for dicarded nuggs between the sofa cushions when there's a drought on.

@Ryan-0413

2 жыл бұрын

Or people saving cigarette butts in case they need to resmoke them if they run out of money to buy a new carton

@CaptainVideoBlaster

2 жыл бұрын

Also them leaving goop on emperor's floor is visual for "yeah, you are not in charge of us".

@joshuatxuk

2 жыл бұрын

This is some golden age Star Wars EU grade explaining. Totally mean that as a sincere compliment.

@aaccount24

2 жыл бұрын

The newest Dysons are great for making sure you get every last bit of spice keef.

Can't wait to see their review for Dune Part 2! Gonna be as amazing as their review of The Batman.

Chris pratt as dino de Laurentiis made me laugh harder than I should have

The shields in the 1984 Dune weren't CGI, but they were designed to resemble CGI. They were painstakingly hand-drawn with there being multiple film passes for each side of the shield. Lynch or someone wanted them to look very geometric, and it's unfortunately ironic that so much painstaking work went into creating such a cheap looking effect.

@sokolum

2 жыл бұрын

Somehow I always liked this effect, despite it looks!

@vultan2000

2 жыл бұрын

Corridor Crew discuss and breakdown this effect

@cornbredx

2 жыл бұрын

Ironically if they went the easier route and just made it a colored light effect around the actors silhouette (which would have still been hard but not nearly AS difficult) it would have looked better.

@HulkHogan69

2 жыл бұрын

It didn't look cheap at the time

@Tetragrammaton22

2 жыл бұрын

Did you comment before watching them discuss that?

“If you’re not a Garfield fan at 10 you have no heart. If you’re a Garfield fan at 20 you have no brain.” - Winston Churchill

@RFC-3514

2 жыл бұрын

Since the cartoon cat was created in thee late 70s, I assume Churchill meant _James_ Garfield, right?

@Kleicomolo

2 жыл бұрын

@@RFC-3514 No, he's talking about the cartoon cat, but it was John Adams who said it, not Churchill.

@ikenosis8160

2 жыл бұрын

@@RFC-3514 bots have no sense of humor.

@RFC-3514

2 жыл бұрын

@@ikenosis8160 - Wait, John Adams was a bot??

@dorians.9872

2 жыл бұрын

Don't google "Winston Churchill Indian Famine Quote" Worst mistake of my life

I always imagined that the point of the navigators with the vacuums is that they were there to clean up the excess spice that fell off their retinue to minimize as much loss as possible. The stuff is precious after all...

@misanthropicservitorofmars2116

9 ай бұрын

Nah, navigators are basically specialized mentats. The space ships engine folds space, the navigator takes folded space and finds a safe route through, that avoids stuff like stars and planets so the ships don’t crash.

@jr2904

5 ай бұрын

​@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 you're not understanding the comment, they are talking about the David Lynch movie with the vacuums following the navigator tank.

@misanthropicservitorofmars2116

4 ай бұрын

@@jr2904 yeah reading this again, I didn’t pay attention.

I know people derided the voice over thoughts in the 1984 Dune, but when I watched it as a teenager (introvert) on some TV channel I was inspired by them a bit. It made me more aware of subtext in what people say or do (in general) and of deeper "plans within plans". It made me want to read the books and I got a lot more "education" from that, on various subjects that expanded my mind. Maybe it doesn't work in film for purists, but I wasn't really turned off by it. It gave answers to many questions of mine that are usually left unanswered or vague.

@ralphhicks2712

Жыл бұрын

I Loved the voice overs.Of course I Loved the voice over in the Original Bladerunner

@Albtraum_TDDC

Жыл бұрын

@@ralphhicks2712 that's in one version of it, the "Theatrical Cut" I think. It's more of a film-noir detective narrator style. It's a little bit different to Dune having voice-overs to explain the thinking that is happening right now in the head of the "actor" on screen. I still like it though. Some people make a joke about it like in Airplane (1980) comedy. the voice-over "Jim never has a 2nd cup of coffee at home".

@Tomwithnonumbers

Ай бұрын

It seems like it could have been inspired by the book which is 90% inner monologues about how they've anticipated that their plan would be anticipated so...

The Baron has a ‘suspensor’ levitation device. A number of the characters have them. Momoa uses his to float briefly in his fight scenes if you watch closely.

@BlueisNotaWarmColour

2 жыл бұрын

In the books he only uses them to sleep so this is a reference to the Lynch version

@Neverwas_one

2 жыл бұрын

Sardaukars make heavy use of the suspensors in the movie aswell

@discephaloid

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlueisNotaWarmColour The books do mention that the Baron is so grotesquely fat that he's unable to walk without the levitators but, yeah, he doesn't use them to fly around.

@verderuso

2 жыл бұрын

@@discephaloid True, but the book doesn't mention he DOESN'T use them to fly around

@GregHafer

2 жыл бұрын

@@discephaloid He raped Gaius Helen Mohiam, the Reverend Mother, so she crused him to be grotesquely fat.

I gotta say, Eli Wallach's performance as the sand worm in "The Good, The Bad, Dune" is underrated, I'm glad you all mentioned it.

@DIEGhostfish

2 жыл бұрын

I know a lot of people are sensitive about the cultural appropriation, but some of my best friends are Sandworms and they liked it!

I would love to see a Garfield movie directed by David Lynch. It honestly sounds magical.

My friend had a copy of Dune(1984) which was around 3 and a half hours long. Could be the one Colin mentions. As far as the story and pacing goes it's a vast improvement on the original cut. But you can see that a lot of the additional footage is not quite finished. No eye colour for Fremen characters, poor sound quality, things like that. A bit of a shame really because it's much better. And I heard romour that there is a 5 hour version somewhere out there.

@ryanricke2247

2 жыл бұрын

I need to see this. My only problem with the film is the pacing and I think more time would definitely fix that.

@alanwright7498

2 жыл бұрын

@@ryanricke2247 The 5 hour version? Yes please.

@tenderloinstew1359

Жыл бұрын

Watch the Spicediver fan edit. You can find it right here on KZread. This guy took those scenes, edited them back in and finished/cleaned up the effects. Until or unless Lynch does a director's cut, it's the best version out there.

49:33 I've got a bit of your explanation right here. In 2018, when I was a cab driver in Montreal, I met Villeneuve and we talked a little bit. I asked him how Blade Runner 2049 did overall and he said that box office wise, it didn't perform like the studio wanted BUT that its after-life in home releases (both physical and digital) largely surpassed their expectations and did actually pretty well.

@RichardTheRoe

2 жыл бұрын

Well, that's sort of a non-statment, isn't it? "Did better than expected on streaming" doesn't mean much when it flopped pretty hard in the box office, there weren't exactly high expectations. Of course we don't know the exact streaming deals it had but rough estimates tells us the film never even got close to break even.... As a conservative estimate it lost the studio at least 70 million USD. Most likely quite a bit more.

@mcsweatshop

2 жыл бұрын

I’m assuming you were both smoking and wearing berets

@analogbunny

2 жыл бұрын

Just like UHF!

@etiennevanier

2 жыл бұрын

@@bilbo1778 Correct, Montreal IS in France.

@toggtlas7099

2 жыл бұрын

@@bilbo1778 As someone who worked directly with that film I can tell you what you said is pretty much nonsense. The film is indeed seen as a major flop by the studio and "Oh well, we made the director happy" and "We'll make it back through streaming rights the coming decade" isn't really how the industry works. At all. You make it sound like you're stating facts but really you don't work in the industry, do you? Because you seem to make a lot of assumptions...

Putting on my Obnoxious Dork Hat: The throat singer was on Salusa Secundus and those guys were the Imperial Sardaukar, the Emperor's elite personal troops. They weren't Harkonnens. They were lent to the Harkonnens (and in the book fought wearing Harkonnen uniforms so no one would suspect they were there, but I can appreciate why they didn't do that in the movie). The Harkonnens needed them since their troops were chumps compared to the Atreides, whereas no one could fuck with the Sardaukar. Except the Fremen. Specifically the Fedaykin. Man once those guys show up it's gonna be some shit.

@DIEGhostfish

2 жыл бұрын

Honestly I really HOPE the white armor is their Harkonnen disguise. I liked the 1984 Dune's Weldingmask/hazmat suit look. Or at least the black with a square faceplate thing. Maybe because of the art from the RTS that based itself on the original movie.

@goldfishprime

2 жыл бұрын

@@DIEGhostfish I mean, we know what the Harkonnen forces look like, all black. Being in complete different uniform would be confusing. Plus whenever they were spotted, someone always shouted "Sardaukar!"

@TheWasteOfTime

2 жыл бұрын

@@goldfishprime Well to be fair I was speaking specifically about when Jay called them Harkonnens. Neither of them read the books so they might not really get who the Sardaukar are.

@TheWasteOfTime

2 жыл бұрын

@@stephenpaccone8120 Pffft, my Mom always said I can be whatever I want! Seriously though, ye'll have to be more specific about what I can't be serious about. Unless ye weren't talking to me?

@cornbredx

2 жыл бұрын

Its fair to say Jay and Colin missed a lot of stuff like that, but you know it's not a big deal. When a movie is based on a series of novels this complex for it to explain practically nothing, except the short Hitchhiker's guide to the Galaxy scenes, anyone who doesn't read the books will take longer to pick up on the smaller details like that (the movie does tell you that, in fact it mentions the Emporer aiding the Harkonnen multiple times).

The baron floats around using the same floating device the Sardukar soldiers use on their commando attacks

I saw the Lynch version on opening night in 1984 and even teen me knew I was in trouble when I entered the theater and found that the theater had placed a printed glossary of Dune terms on everyone's seats.

The most impressive thing it's that Jay remembered the name of Kate McKinnon's character from Ghostbusters 2016 😐

I'm genuine happy that Jay enjoyed "Dune" (2021). What with everyone not shutting up about it, I was almost expecting he'd be feeling apathetic at best.

@frankmerker630

2 жыл бұрын

Don’t you mean Dillanueve’s Dune?

@funglegunk

2 жыл бұрын

I expected he would. Afaik Jay has had a positive review for every Villeneuve movie.

@bigbakaboon

2 жыл бұрын

The only thing i really hated about 2021 was the sound mixing and the awful hans zimmer score. I hate when you have scenes where characters are barely talking above a whisper, so i turn my tv up, and the next scene is shitty hans zimmer score blowing up my speakers and i have to hurry up and turn my tv down. I don't want to watch a movie with a remote in my hand the entire time because i constantly have to adjust the volume

@papayacatproductions

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah this channel's brand is being over it, so it's a nice breath of fresh air when they can muster an actual opinion.

@funglegunk

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigbakaboon It's possible they might fix that for a future DVD or streaming release. I remember they tweaked Zimmer's score noticeably in Interstellar between cinema and home release.

There's an old interview with Lynch, one of the rare times he's talked about Dune, and there were two things I particularly remember from it; 1) the reason he took on Dune after passing up on Jedi was creative control. De Laurentiis offered him more or less license to run free with the production and that was something Lucas had not offered him. 2) De Laurentiis was apparently a very old fashioned Hollywood guy; he would not hesitate to sink millions of dollars into huge sets, thousands of actors and costumes, but the idea of paying that kind of money for what he described as "bunch of dudes playing with models for months" was too much.

"Yeah Paul causes 60 billion deaths" Jay: *laughs*

Lynch's DUNE has one of the most kickass scores ever made. As a teenage, I'd endlessly rewind my VHS to hear the guitar licks. Perfection

@2157AF

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, absolutely. Really loved all of D1984s music. I felt a little underwhelmed by Zimmers soundtrack.

@alexthorpe2522

2 жыл бұрын

I'm not keen on the riffs but the atmosphere. The ost for The Box is good. Mysterious and threatening.

@Weaponsandstuff93

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly the soundtrack version of "Big Battle (Riding the worm/Long live the fighters) doesn't have the same mix as the film version.

@Gregorius421

2 жыл бұрын

I have the Toto and Brian Eno score on my regular playlist... It's one of the best OSTs and the only thing the new movie can't outperform.

@miked9466

2 жыл бұрын

Ya, man. I’ve always said this, when other friends didn’t seem to agree with me. So good,, love the movie for it’s time. But the score is kick ass.

Seeing this review just makes me want a “Face/Off” reboot starring Colin and Jay that much more.

@AxxLAfriku

2 жыл бұрын

i was a boy. they were 138 girls. can i make it any more obvious? thats right, i had a crazy dream last night. HAHAHAHAHA!!! im the funniest youtube star ever. youre welcome for laughing dear w

32:00 you bring up probably my only complaint about the new Dune; I'm familiar with the story and saw the movie after literally everyone else so I figured there would be a second movie coming, but that ending still caught me off-guard. It felt so strangely placed almost like they ran out of time for editing and just grabbed whatever "people walking" clip they could find and threw in there. The entire movie is a masterpiece of filmography through and through, but I think the experience will definitely improve when there's a sequel you can switch over to right after this one is done, or if they release an Extended cut like they did with LotR (that vastly improved the second to enjoyable from a slog).

It should be noted that in the ending of the 1984 version, Paul's messianic powers cause it to rain on Arrakis. Everyone looks up in wonder at this miracle. The world is redeemed! Yay! ... But the thing is, water is poisonous to the sandworms, and the sandworms are the source of the spice, and the spice is the lifeblood of the entire universe. So it raining on Arrakis is actually a disaster beyond apocalyptic proportions. Whoops!

@SSZaris

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know if you've read the later books, but they do cover the idea of terraforming Dune into a lush world with rivers and greenery. As you said, this is poisonous to the worms.

@Albtraum_TDDC

2 жыл бұрын

@@SSZaris yeah they confine the deserts and the worms around the equator and also some try to take worms off planet. Eventually they manufacture spice alternatives and such... and there's the whole deal with the Honored Matres who return from the Scattering with their own stuff ... Plus they also create machine navigated ships again , like before the Butlerian Jihad, so the spice is no longer the only way to navigate stellar travel.

@SSZaris

2 жыл бұрын

@@Albtraum_TDDC I love how Dune can be a completely separate story if you want it to be, and then if you want to delve deeper into it the sequels (and I know not everyone loved them, but I personally loved the prequels) create an epic story over the span of centuries. It's just good solid story telling.

@Albtraum_TDDC

2 жыл бұрын

@@SSZaris reading the true sequels was strange sometimes. Leaving behind figures like Paul Muad'Dip and Leto God Emperor worm, I was questioning myself. Am I going to be interested in the next chapter, story, characters? But it always seemed to manage somehow (to keep my interest), even recycling some old ones like Duncan Idaho a bit too much. Maybe I just wasn't into him that much. Maybe I didn't understand his literary role in its entirety. Still, all good. The ending was mysterious and with many interpretations. Then came the prequels by his son and that hack writer (Anderson) and they ruined everything. They wrote such drivel, created contradictions, poor writing style, etc. I'm not going to tell you what to like... But please don't like "that" :P

The joke about watching the new dune on a phone when the director insisted it be watched in theatres was not lost on me

@fhqwhg4ds

2 жыл бұрын

also see Lynch’s rant about “ffffucking telephones”

@thee2724

2 жыл бұрын

Multiple layers to this one lads

@Avatar_of_Chairness

2 жыл бұрын

It's almost like poetry, it rhymes

@buffoonustroglodytus4688

2 жыл бұрын

I’ll watch it on a fuckin flip phone I don’t giva fuck