"Fall Guy" is not an original IP, it's a tv show from the 80's.

@alexandru5369

16 күн бұрын

And that's the problem why would you make a movie based on IP from 40 years ago? It's bizarre too me

@docsavage8640

16 күн бұрын

Because they have zero creativity. They'd rather pay for the rights to a familiar name than try to come up with an idea. They're too lazy even just to steal an idea and file off the serial numbers.

@user-ik8ok9qh2u

16 күн бұрын

@@docsavage8640 And it wasn't even a good or memorable show, except for the blonde woman who was in it.

@harlequin75

16 күн бұрын

thank you. I watched it. It was a great show

@WhiteLivesMatterPL

16 күн бұрын

Plus it's mediocre movie.

Drinker showing his ‘youthfulness’ by not realizing this movie is NOT original. Those of us who live through the 80’s remember ‘The fall guy’ TV show fondly.

@donkeysaurusrex7881

16 күн бұрын

It is entirely possible for an American tv show not to be shown in Scotland.

@oukie666

16 күн бұрын

​@@donkeysaurusrex7881it was, I'm in Scotland and it was shown across the entire UK in the. 80's, back in those days there was only 4 TV channels and I remember when Channel 4 Launched 😂

@YagiChanDan

16 күн бұрын

As a 46 Year old Englishman, I'm amazed and worried that the panel thought it was original IP

@donkeysaurusrex7881

16 күн бұрын

@@oukie666 I stand corrected. You sir have earned my upvote.

@MrJustinOtis

16 күн бұрын

I lived through the 80s and wasn't aware of this show.

You can't capitalize on 1980s nostalgia if you've alienated the actual people who liked the show in the 1980s and told them to eff off.

@mitchellhackman274

14 күн бұрын

Very true. I grew up watching this tv show. But with how all the movies and shows are going and ruining Characters I grew up watching and pretended to be. It's just not something I want to see them ruin again.

@jeffreyboyer3714

13 күн бұрын

I think that was their biggest problem here...just what you state. They pissed too many people off, hence low sales for that 80s nostalgia, which this is clearly trying to capitalize on. I think throwing two big stars in for a "big draw" was another mistake, because all that did was drive up the budget, due to their salary command, for no return, because that same wary public didn't bite, and now you've compounded the mistake with higher cost, and low sales, makes it a "flop." Too bad, because generally, I would totally watch a Fall Guy movie co-starring Emily Blunt, in a normal world.

@michaelwills1926

12 күн бұрын

@@jeffreyboyer3714I don’t think they’re trying to capitalize off it, I think they’re trying to ruin it.

@rickythompson8718

11 күн бұрын

C'mon, let's be honest...The Fall Guy TV show was never a show that folk got nostalgic about. It's not Dukes of Hazzard, Starsky and Hutch, The A-Team. Its not even Manimal or Blue Thunder! So, there was no 80's market to capitalize from.

@lovettuduebor1902

11 күн бұрын

Tell that to Stranger Things.

I think it’s an easy one word answer: budget. Why does a generic action comedy cost 140 million? Make it for 50 and you wouldn’t even be having this conversation.

@jefferydraper4019

14 күн бұрын

Its time to start looking for stories instead of showing us special effects that distract from the terrible stories. The original Mad Max cost $400,000 to make. It brought in $100 MILLION. Why? Because it was a pretty good story. Not the best story, but a decent one.

@plumbthumbs9584

Күн бұрын

@@jefferydraper4019 mad max 2 had great characters and acting. great action set-pieces, well filmed, some quote-able moments (Nobody beats the snake!). while 'mad max 1' was campy and fun, it was not the things 2 were. 3 was, well an 80's hot mess, but it had a few moments.

@ITSAHARDNUGLIFE

22 сағат бұрын

Yep, it's a combination of over budgeted films and prices to see things. There's a KZreadr, Friendly Space Ninja, and on his video about the flops of 2023 blockbusters, he explained how if you were to go for a weekend with a significant other plus popcorn, a drink, and candy; roughly $60. Every weekend for a month; about $325. Back when I was a child, we didn't go to cinemas all the time, just some of the time. We did, however, go to Blockbuster or Video Depot or Hollywood Video all the time. Rent like 1-5 movies maybe a video game or two, come back to return rentals and check something else out.

@CSorgini

19 сағат бұрын

There is absolutely no way that this movie needed anything more than 80 million

I think this clearly indicates just how much audience goodwill Hollywood has burnt through.

@Rotom0479

16 күн бұрын

I still like Hollywood though

@grandmufftwerkin9037

16 күн бұрын

@@Rotom0479 Awesome! A lot of people don't, clearly demonstrated by low audience participation across multiple entertainment metrics.

@Rotom0479

16 күн бұрын

@@grandmufftwerkin9037 That's their fault.

@MaryRohwer

16 күн бұрын

I think your right about this. It used to be when you asked, "Do you want to see a movie?", the default answer was yes; now the default answer seems to be no. When you hear a movie isn't 'woke', you still ask, does that mean it's only slightly progressive instead of absolutely insane? Also, I feel like a lot of women went into Barbie thinking that it was a romance and ended up feeling betrayed, so now just because a movie seems to be a romantic comedy, there's no reason to think it will deliver.

@Paulin-pw5jx

16 күн бұрын

@@grandmufftwerkin9037what do they want fuck ? That movie was great fun I enjoyed it even went twice to see it

It's wild that "This movie doesn't hate me" is a notable quality of movies these days.

@davidgantenbein9362

16 күн бұрын

This is probably the core issue Hollywood has, far bigger than a sleuth of bad writers or an economic downturn at the wrong time or even streaming. People tend to avoid haters once they recognize them.

@boggeddown778

16 күн бұрын

Even then you have to squint. The movie might (or even probably) hates you anyway, it just hates you sneakily.

@hansjuker8296

16 күн бұрын

Rubs hands together.

@paulanderson771

16 күн бұрын

It's hilarious to me they tried to get the 1980s nostalgia audience after Hollywood spent the last several years making sure we knew how much they hate middle aged white people.

@CelestialWoodway

16 күн бұрын

Poorly written movies that insult the intelligence of the audience-most Hollywood product- is a form of hating the audience.

Because Ryan Gosling is no Lee Majors. When you think "tough guy, bad-ass" Ryan Gosling is not the name that springs to mind.

@nigelwitgunn3406

15 күн бұрын

Nor was Lee Majors!

@RantTheRetort

15 күн бұрын

​@@nigelwitgunn3406For a second I confused Lee Marvin with Lee Majors...whoops, big differnence.

@nigelwitgunn3406

15 күн бұрын

@@RantTheRetort oh yeah, one of them can act.

@ronburgundy3172

14 күн бұрын

Even less so after getting bitch slapped in Barbie

@kevinarmstrong478

14 күн бұрын

Yeah Ryan Gosling is still just Ken

'Superhero fatigue' has metastisized to 'Hollywood fatigue'.

It is amusing that Hollywood is rebooting ips so old and obscure that even pop culture analysts don’t realize they are reboots.

@jeffhartley7548

16 күн бұрын

In this case, this is more of poor reflection on the analysts than it is on Hollywood. The Fall Guy is far too well known for Drinker (who did a review on it), not to know. It is even worse that the panel didn't either. At the end of the day, this particular panel knows Disney, Timothy Chalamet , and Lady Gaga movies. Really need Baggage Claim, Nerdrotic, and Echo when talking about other areas of entertainment.

@djgeneralbounce

16 күн бұрын

@@jeffhartley7548 The Fall Guy TV show REALLY isn't as well known as you think. As I said before, no one I know who is a regular moviegoer or TV buff knew what it was. The only person I know who's heard of it is my 70 year old mother. I can list a ton of US TV shows that were popular in the UK in the 80s but I can't even find anything online to say which channel screened The Fall Guy here, whereas I can with plenty of others. I would go as far as saying Prisoner Cell Block H (the old Australian prison drama) was more popular over here and that was screened in the late night slot after 11pm in most UK regions. Also the film barely gives any indication its based on an old TV series.

@Usqueadmortem

16 күн бұрын

@@jeffhartley7548damn you just dissected this entire channel

@jeffhartley7548

16 күн бұрын

@@djgeneralbounce respectfully, just because your circle of friends doesn't know The Fall Guy doesn't mean it isn't well known in entertainment circles. I can easily find people that have never heard of Dr Who, LA Law, or Battlestar Galactica. That doesn't mean they aren't well known. Again, check this very comments section where others in the UK have stated that they know it well. Regardless, it is clear that the studio made this film because of its notoriety. For the panel to discuss the film and not know that is sad and embarrassing.

@Ciclopea2

16 күн бұрын

@@jeffhartley7548 The Fall Guy was such a hit that even in Venezuela where i'm from anyone who lived through the 80's remembers Lee Majors as Colt Seavers in "Profesión Peligro" which was the name of the show in our language.

Hollywood just needs to stop chasing the “blockbuster”. They need to learn to make less expensive movies. They’re now just using expensive effects to cover for crap writing and poor story telling.

@irishspagetti6565

16 күн бұрын

It can no longer be called a blockbuster if no one goes to see it, the term 'blockbuster' was made because of the massive lines of people wrapped around the block waiting to get in the theater, again it's pretty antiquated because of reserved seating

@inthefade

16 күн бұрын

Hollywood are doing too much stimulants. Seriously 2 out of 3 people are on an ADHD drug it seems. Especially in the entertainment industry. It makes them scatterbrained and unproductive.

@Art-is-craft

16 күн бұрын

Oppenheimer and Barbie audience is not the normal market place. They are an older market that stopped attending.

@weldsj8847

16 күн бұрын

Their business model requires the movies to be expensive. They're trying to keep the price of entry so high as to ward off competition. It won't work. We'll be able to make pretty good movies on our phones at this pace. Have you seen those fake 1950s trailer of versions of popular newer IPS? Pretty fantastic and it's only going to get easier for ordinary people to do this soon.

@weldsj8847

16 күн бұрын

@@Art-is-craft With Star Wars, etc. Disney flat out wanted that older market to stay home. For super hits, you need to bring in everybody. Imagine if in the 1980s the Rolling Stones said, "we want a new audience and to shed our 1960s and 1970s fans". Absurd. Instead, they went from a really good band to monsters of rock. Get that new audience but try to keep the old.

Fall Guy was a TV show in the 80s. This still counts as a remake.

Because like it or not, the demographic that makes "action movies" successful is teen boys, and teen boys are not going to turn out in numbers for Ryan Gosling or Emily Blunt.

Fall Guy was a chick flik disguised as an action movie, and everyone knew it. And Fall Guy IS NOT an "original IP". Dude, that was my fav show as a kid.

@rbu2136

16 күн бұрын

Done watching Hollywood anything. Sick and tired of woke garbage and ain’t interested to find out whether new movie is or not. Keanu I will watch. That’s about it.

@jayclark8284

16 күн бұрын

Me too...I'm off to watch some clips of it now. We don't want or need Hollywood...we've effectively put them in economic timeout😂

@BumfluffAddlepate

16 күн бұрын

"Dude, that was my fav show as a kid.' And they were counting on that, but even one-celled critters realize just what sort of disgusting necrophiliac hellpit the "entertainment industry" has become and skipped this.

@Art-is-craft

16 күн бұрын

That had nothing to do with it. Cinema is dead.

@Dude-co6cx

16 күн бұрын

@@rbu2136 I wish but I watch more movies than these guys. Movie theater is my chill place. And there's okay stuff here and there. Abigail was decent. Ungentlemanly was fun. 🤷‍♂️

The public is worried about paying the bills not enriching Hollywood. Screw Hollywood.

@kicknowledgesmith8608

16 күн бұрын

Im sure that won’t matter for Dead pool

@markkar4663

16 күн бұрын

@@kicknowledgesmith8608 yeah, you're very likely correct. Speaking only for myself I just don't care. I'll just wait till I can buy it at Walmart in the discount bin for five bucks.😂😂

@greggibson33

16 күн бұрын

@@kicknowledgesmith8608 DP 2 was horrible.

@kicknowledgesmith8608

16 күн бұрын

@@greggibson33 No it wasn't. It wasn't as good as the first but horrible it was not. plus, this will have Wolverine and other cameos, it's going to make a lot of money, No one will use the streaming and being broke excuse for that film. Everyone went to see Barbie, Oppenheimer, Mario, and Spider verse, no problem. Fall Guy looks like the typical Netflix movie.

@donut3946

15 күн бұрын

@@kicknowledgesmith8608while you are correct, everyone did not go and see those movies. I still haven’t seen them, lol

"Fall Guy was only the most popular 80's show ever in Timbuktu, I fucking trusted you, Drinker!" I agree he could've done a little more research but this still only proves that Hollywood is digging into the mantle below the crust for shit to remake/reboot, the fact it flopped is probably a good sign that virtually no-one knows/remembers the original show.

@jazzdub4958

14 күн бұрын

the drinker is a simple grifter, not a film reviewer of credibility. remember that.

It is simple. We of a certain age have seen the fall guy. It was on TV in the 80s. We are not interested in Hollyweird regurgitating old material.

@xmasinpacific

12 күн бұрын

I do believe a portion of the audience doesn’t want more reboots or new sequels to old IPs. Unfortunately no one seems to make new quality IPs or botches the execution so badly it’s just trash. The Uncharted IP could be an amazing cinematic world - but what did they do? Take the set pieces from the game and just ram them All together - I predict an airwolf movie in our future haha

1. It's a known IP by people born before the 90s, but it has nothin to do with the original series... 2. Stars no longer get people in theaters... 3. Movies are too costly, there's now little chance to make its money back... 4. The movie tried to pull a Mr. & Mrs. Smith, but that has nothing to do with the original series... 5. Fans will only go to watch their favorite IPs in cinemas, the rest will only go if it's a worthy experience to leave the house... 6. Poor marketing... 7. Not a memorable movie, why would anybody recommend it if they forget it as soon as they leave the theater...

@bambooblinds

16 күн бұрын

wow - yes x7

@thelaughingrouge

16 күн бұрын

Exactly

@lawrencetalbot8346

16 күн бұрын

*add tickets are too expensive But yeah I saw absolutely no reason to go see this. To me, this was just another of those endless movies that I never knew existed until someone on KZread talks about it.

@douglatins

16 күн бұрын

5 is huge for me. Last 2 times I went to the movies was dune 2 and dune 1

@stacyhamilton2619

16 күн бұрын

Woodrow Wilson had double as many the points as you do. But WW1 was an original IP. I'm sure if he had survived until 1945 he'd have whittled his down to seven as well.

As a 46 Year old Englishman, I'm amazed and worried that the panel thought it was original IP

@bastianogr4960

16 күн бұрын

Same here. Except I‘m not even from an English speaking country, and still The Fall Guy was my everything as a kid. Along with The A-Team and Riptide ❤️

@BumfluffAddlepate

16 күн бұрын

@@bastianogr4960 I bet they'll be getting to the Riptide "re-imagining" real soon.

@Jake-love939

16 күн бұрын

@@BumfluffAddlepate Yeah, _Cody_ and _Nick_ will be replaced with two chicks, _Candy_ and _Nickie_ , but _'Boz'_ will still be a a geeky dude.

@feandil666

16 күн бұрын

only people above 45-50 have heard of it, this "IP" really has no value nowadays.

@YagiChanDan

16 күн бұрын

@@feandil666 bollocks. Look at the demographic and reputation of the panel. They should all have recognised the original TV show.

Fall Guy was 80s TV show, NOT new or original IP. My immediate reaction to the preview some months back was "Give me a break..."

@jazzdub4958

14 күн бұрын

it's the drinker, give him a break. anything outside Disney Star Wars he's in deep waters and drowning.

8:56 - 9:12 The first Deadpool is proof that even action-packed, special effects heavy, and heavy CGI movies can be made for less than $75M. (Deadpool's production budget was $58M.) So why movies like Fall Guy cost nearly $150M is mind blowing to me. It's clear that Hollywood has simply lost all sense of what a movie/TV show's budget should be. (And Godzilla Minus One's budget should be the wake up call Hollywood needed. It won the Oscar for best visual effects despite having a budget 1/18th the size of The Marvels budget.)

The Fall Guy was a TV series from 1981 till 1986. They even had the old Chevy truck in the movie, along with a modern version.

@n0punint3nd3d

16 күн бұрын

They did change the core elements though. Series: Focus on his side job as bounty hunter. Stunts scenes are more like the c-plot. Jodie is his assistant, not his love interest (to my knowledge). Don't get me wrong, that makes it still somewhat of a remake and not an original IP. To me this is somewhat similar to The Equalizer. TV series with an older white guy from the 1980's (thanks to Stacyhamilton2619 for the correction), and now a fantastic Denzel Washington. But I would recon it has not that much to do with the original.

@MrStonelion63

16 күн бұрын

Lee Majors

@BumfluffAddlepate

16 күн бұрын

@@n0punint3nd3d "Jodie is his assistant, not his love interest (to my knowledge)" Even for Hollywood, a 20 year age difference would've been a bit much.

@lawrencetalbot8346

16 күн бұрын

Okay and? The point stands there was zero marketing or draw to get customers to go see this, wether they saw the original in the 80s or didn’t.

@stacyhamilton2619

16 күн бұрын

​@@n0punint3nd3dTry an edit where you google the decade the Equalizer is from. I reckon* it's the 80's like The Fall Guy.

It's not an original IP. The Fall Guy was a TV series from the 80's, staring Lee Majors as Colt Seavers, as well as Douglas Barr and Heather Thomas. Fun series.

@djassassinuk

16 күн бұрын

It was a classic. Who can forget the Lee Majors theme song eh

@daviru02

16 күн бұрын

Heather Thomas in the bikini in the opening credits man. I lived for that scene every week

@carlrood4457

16 күн бұрын

Also had Markie Post before Night Court

@scottmcfadyen-iu6ix

16 күн бұрын

It basicly is an original IP because it was from the 80's ! the only people who are going to remember it are those of us over fifty years old !

@daviru02

16 күн бұрын

@@carlrood4457 She was hot, too

Why did it flop? Ryan Gosling isn't a convincing tough guy, it looked like a contrived hollywood movie, it didn't hue to the "ethos" of the original Fall Guy, it looked farcical

@ronburgundy3172

14 күн бұрын

Ryan gosling is never going to be look at as a tough guy after Barbie that movie made him a joke

@AlexJaneson

14 күн бұрын

He should do rom-coms

The number one reason…Lee Majors. Ryan Gosling isn’t even a pimple on Lee ‘The Bionic Man’ Majors’ ass. Emotion, comedic timing, and intrigue made this guy a world class star. Second, ‘The Fall Guy’ was a hit TV show that Lee even sang the introductory song. Now, Lee came out of retirement with the new ‘Ash vs the Evil Dead’ series and proved he still could kick ass. And, don’t get me started on Emily Blunt trying to take on the iconic role of Heather Thomas.

I think Hollywood has given the middle finger to large portions of their audience, and people aren’t as interested in what they’re doing.

@alexwilliamrussell

16 күн бұрын

Hollywood is not making movies with American LowBrow Hero. Fall Guy and Gentlemenly Warfare, Canadians and Brits or european characters . Gosling literally is pretty boy who does hair, not a low brow hero.. And he's not a pushy womanizer, he's not a Burt Reynolds of Stallone, he's a nice Canadian... No movie has a bad boy hero, who fights the system to get rich and bang, it's meek men which is fine but not true escapist.. it's not important but middle class won't support stuff where main character ain't a real rebel who flips off the system.. and Fall Guy with Canadian and Brit shows wow they are not willing to even employ Americans yet wonder why public feels uninterested... Emily Blunt we all know is genius but we want a slutty actress who can barely read as our fantasy... True cheesecake. ..... True zero artsyness...

@CMCAdvanced

15 күн бұрын

It's hard to take your girlfriend to see a movie when most women would rather be alone with a bear and you therefore don't have a girlfriend. I think that has a bigger impact on certain movies than we think

@BoondockGore

15 күн бұрын

Exactly... the trailer was in the realm of a movie they could bait me with. Can't take the chance

@17NateJohnson

15 күн бұрын

@CMCAdvanced ????

@juliorodriguez2694

14 күн бұрын

Bingo! It's a toxic ex trying to lure you back into the manipulation, and alot of us have simply moved on. Video games are RIGHT behind them

Fall guy flopped because it cost to much to make. Movies like Fall guy used to come out all the time 20+ years ago. The difference is they would cost 40-50 million to make. They would gross 150-175 million worldwide and make a small profit then release on home video and make more profit. Hollywood is killing itself with bloated budgets and streaming services.

@sammuslu2992

15 күн бұрын

Very true

@nobobynnobody

14 күн бұрын

Remember 2nd run cinemas? Those cheap ticket Cinemas that played movies that were a few weeks or months old. I had one near me growing up where the tickets were 1$, and I practically lived there as a teenager. Movies back then had a much longer run, Jurassic Park, The Crow and Pulp Fiction were still screening in the cinemas a year after their release, even after the home video releases. That's because watching a VHS tape of a movie on a blurry square TV screen was vastly inferior to watching a film on a cinema screen. This remained the case until very recently, with affordable 4k tvs and projectors (my cinema actually advertises 4k projection- same as my living room)😂 These days it seems like a faff to go to the cinema especially when I know the movie will be streaming in 4 weeks, maybe less! But what those cheap cinemas offered that has been lost is a place to get away for a few hours when you don't want to be home but you also don't want to be social. And they instilled in me a love for movies because I would see anything at that price, and sometimes I would be surprised. That is something that Hollywood has lost.

@nathantaylor8643

14 күн бұрын

@@nobobynnobody We had a dollar theater about 30 minutes from where we lived. As teenagers me and my friends would go there quite often to watch multiple movies in one day. I remember that some movies would get a fairly sizable bump in the box office when they went to the dollar theater.

@ArcanePath360

12 күн бұрын

They could learn a lot from Godzilla Minus One

@michaelwills1926

12 күн бұрын

People have had enough of their memories being ruined by modern trash. Avoid anything these people make.

It's because nobody wants to see a bad comedy movie disguised as an action movie that doesn't know what it wants to be. People just want actual action movies, masculine movies, high testosterone movies. Things like that. The Fall Guy clearly was trying to be a comedy movie and although I like comedy, I don't necessarily need a ton of comedy in my action movie maybe a little bit to lighten up the mood, but I think we all like the raid and John Wick for reasons, and the Fall Guy clearly was trying to be something that appealed to a weird demographic of people that wanted more comedy than action and I almost don't know anybody who's into those type of movies.

@pauljamesyoung-70

13 сағат бұрын

You got it. After I saw the trailer my first thought was, "I have no idea what this is." It presented no hook.

I know that for my family, going to the theater has become an extravagance. We can't fork over $120 on just any ol' movie.

every movie that comes out is filled with absurdism, extreme CGI stunts and over the top humour, set pieces and props. I honestly think people want something more grounded in reality.

@aclark7243

16 күн бұрын

Very true. In the past, physics defying action only took place in movies that had an explanation for it, like The Matrix. Now, movies are filled with CGI generated action scene that defy the laws of physics and are completely unbelievable.

@Mereologist

16 күн бұрын

Have you forgotten the entire era of action movies? I don't think anyone imagined those were 'realistic'.

@jackflash8218

16 күн бұрын

F*@k's sake... I just want a movie that doesn't seem like it was written by a 15 year old with head trauma & a political agenda. Is that so goddamn much to ask?

@c0hink176

16 күн бұрын

this movie was a lot more grounded though

@TheAurians

16 күн бұрын

@@jackflash8218 I have to say, even from some recent friends who watched The Fall Guy, they said it was "okay" but had a general "who asked for this" type of feeling. It's like Pixar/Disney's films, or recent blockbuster video games, where a lot of the characterization and plot and mechanics feel like ticking off boxes. AI Generative models can tick boxes. But when people hear a "Nolan" film, they know it's a film from a particular person's mind. A human mind, rather than that from a content/product machine. Maybe this will be the difference between AI art and human art. AI's can't recreate our minds (yet), nor can they recreate the time period, the *dynamic* states of the mind, the culture an artist is in that forces them to produce work. I remember Lucas saying that he was going through a divorce or something while writing Temple of Doom, and that he believes that influenced its tone in comparison the first Indi film. Maybe this is what is missing from today's media, and people can intuit this.

40 year old tv show, 40 year old music, 40 year old actors. Can't think why the kids arent going to see this.

@piotrswat169

16 күн бұрын

Yea they should hire the new dr who heard he is the hot new thing at Diddy’s mansion.

@ciaranmurren

16 күн бұрын

@@piotrswat169 or Sydney Sweeney

@kingcosworth2643

16 күн бұрын

@@ciaranmurren As long as she shows off those gifts of hers

@spookrockcity

16 күн бұрын

Kids went to see Barbie though... oof. Just make something really gay and effeminate and apparenly Gen Z will show up in droves lmfao.

@CMCAdvanced

15 күн бұрын

​@@spookrockcityyou know they made new Barbie movies for little girls in the last 40 years, right? I see what you're getting at, but that's an incorrect comparison. Barbie is still modern and relevant where The Fall Guy isn't

*... because nobody -- NOBODY -- wants to give Peddowood a dime or dollar anymore, even if the movie might be good. It's personal now.*

@AlexJaneson

14 күн бұрын

Then why have other movies this year done well?

@MisterMonsieur

14 күн бұрын

@@AlexJaneson Which movies?

I feel like a core problem here is that the question "why did The Fall Guy flop" is being asked from a perspective where success is assumed. The best you get when explaining 'here's why it should have succeeded' are all generic answers at best, but nothing that explains "why this movie in particular should have succeeded that couldn't be copy+pasted onto another generic movie. Start of the summer movie season? Economy is bad and banning audiences from attending theaters broke the habit of seeing them. Ryan Gosling? Not the pull you think he is. 'Four Quadrant Movie'? It is rare that those actually succeed, more often than not those try to please everyone but instead please no one. Doesn't hate the audience, doesn't push 'THE MESSAGE'? As Platoon noted, that's not really a positive selling point, it's just what the baseline should be. The question here shouldn't be 'why did The Fall Guy flop?'. The question needs to be asked 'what specific reason should this movie in particular have had for succeeding?'.

Fall Guy is a remake of the Lee Majors TV show.

@PewKittens

16 күн бұрын

Can't wait for Mr. Majors to save Santa

@cromcccxvi3787

16 күн бұрын

No. It used the name, nothing else

@jacksprat232

16 күн бұрын

​@@cromcccxvi3787Ryan's Colt Seavers character name, the truck, the post-credit cameo by Lee Majors and Heather Thomas, sound effects from the TV show....yeah, it's a remake.

@jjc5407

16 күн бұрын

@@jacksprat232 it didn't need to be though did it? It could have been called The Stunt Double and had a different character's name for Gosling and it would have made no difference. Studios seem to think that remakes like this will appeal to older viewers but they don't. People who have fond memories of a show from decades before are unlikely to be attracted to a movie that is markedly different. It would likely make the movie more attractive to those potential viewers if they'd had Lee Majors appearing as Colt Seavers Sr in a couple of scenes with Gosling's character being his son.

Ryan Gosling is no Lee Majors

@richardmcenroe2582

13 күн бұрын

Ooh, that's mean...

@franciscodanconia4324

6 күн бұрын

@@richardmcenroe2582it’s true. Lee had a tough Marlboro man look. Gosling, even in action roles, does not exude machismo. Charm sure, but not machismo. Honestly Gosling would have been better as Howie Munson with someone rougher playing Colt. But honestly I can’t think of a male actor in the 30-40 year old range that fits the bill anymore.

@samcoll3273

2 күн бұрын

Why did it flop? For my money, I'd say 'Ryan Gosling'. Can't stand that tosser, and I'm not paying money to see him fall. Delighted to hear his movie flopped, though. No fault of Emily Blunt, she's excellent.

@T-Bone_SSteak

2 күн бұрын

​@@samcoll3273 but he's you...

Watched Fall Guy the other day and was very well entertained. No messaging, no politics, pleasant vibes overall. It's not quite Tropic Thunder level of satire but it's a very good effort at breaking the trend of heavy, message laden, "we are so serious" movies. Some gentle jabs at Hollywood and the culture there and, for me, one of the most satisfying scenes at the end when Gosling falls backward off a helicopter and makes a double fisted gesture as he falls away. I look forward to seeing that clipped and memed everywhere. I'd go see it again with a friend who hasn't seen it.

I think people are much more interested in watching the hollywood trainwreck rather than the movies themselves.

As someone who grew up with "The Fall Guy" I was excited when I heard there will be a movie. Then I saw the first trailer. And I was like "What?". A friend of mine thought the same. Then I watched the movie. And it is not "The Fall Guy". Not one bit to put it very blunt. So I guess other fans of the original show weren't all to happy about the movie as well. And these fans were the first ones to watch the movie because there are fans already. And all they got was "The Nice Guy". And another thought: Maybe a lot of men didn't go to watch the movie because of Ryan Gosling and his involvement in the Barbie movie. Maybe they were/are thinking Ryan Gosling is doing Ken again in "The Fall Guy". And he did (to a certain degree).

@jjc5407

16 күн бұрын

Yep, no reason for the film to be in anyway connected to the old TV show. It was only a few trivial elements they co-opted, so why not just drop those and call it something else?

@zachbrins00

15 күн бұрын

They completely changed the background for “Colt”’s character, if he should even be called that. Lee Majors’ take on the character of Colt was well-seasoned, witty, adaptable, and resourceful. Gosling, whether of his own volition or the writers, comes across as incompetent, rather dim, and out-of-his-depth.

@Evom777

15 күн бұрын

The trailer turned me off to it when I saw a woman basically telling Gosling's character something along the lines of how nobody will remember the stuntman. Really? You just said this to a guy played by Ryan Gosling who still retains his looks. They want to have Colt's character come off as an everyman, and yet they cast Gosling to play him. 🙄 (Maybe if we were drinking the bong water that might fly) How out of touch is the production to not only leave that line in, but to put it in the trailer?

@tla_studios

14 күн бұрын

Most of this spot on. I think Gosling has all of the acting capability to be the Fall Guy, but instead they didn't make that. It was masculine Ken, not his fault, but go look at Burt Reynolds in Hooper and tell me how cool THAT guy was as a stuntman, and how silly this character was. He wasn't deciding to be daring, he was forced to....meh. Not the Fall Guy.

@MagMar-kv9ne

14 күн бұрын

@@zachbrins00 Like all the white men are depicted in Hollywood nowadays.

The original Fall Guy (Lee Majors) was a tough guy/ man’s man. I didn’t understand them casting Gosling in this role being that he’s the same guy who played Ken in a Barbie movie, so he’s basically a pretty-boy type. I think someone like Alan Ritchson or Tom Hardy would have been much closer to the original character.

@paulibaer_206

15 күн бұрын

Alan Rickman would need to return from the dead for that first

@John_B52_HEMI

15 күн бұрын

I'd cast Tom Hardy over Pink Ken and Jack Reacher. Tom is by far the most talented.

@babychuma1

15 күн бұрын

Lee has a cameo in it!

@robertmaier5359

14 күн бұрын

@@paulibaer_206 He said Alan Ritchson not Alan Rickman.

@kamizumoku

14 күн бұрын

Kurt Russell could do that 20 years ago.

The trailer for “Fall Guy” killed the movie’s prospects: When Emily Blunt said she wanted to slap Gosling’s character and he responded that he would welcome that. Middle America is not ready for that in a mainstream movie.

@MagMar-kv9ne

14 күн бұрын

LOL. Yeah, but that is the MESSAGE, hidden, but there.

@richardtracy8242

4 күн бұрын

Colt Seavers Simping Over an Obnoxious Girl Boss. That's the Whole Movie.

I saw the original "Fall Guy," and the era has passed. The '50s, '60s, '70s, '80s, and '90s had many detective television shows. Detective themes have been popular in the United States media throughout the 20th century. Even as a kid's game show, "Where in the World Is Carmen Sandiego?", that was based upon a computer game series. I feel like everything in the U.S. culture has changed, and we need something new for attention.

@jazzdub4958

14 күн бұрын

or just let films die out now since the world is now on fire with bigger issues.

@WinstonSmithGPT

14 сағат бұрын

@@jazzdub4958 🤡 😂😂😂😂

@WinstonSmithGPT

14 сағат бұрын

Lower IQ has a big impact. Current generations of creators are nowhere near as competent as the guys they kicked out. Film Threat covered this extensively.

I also blame Netflix for The fall guy failure. Netflix has completely turned these types of films into “steaming” movies. Audience can’t see them has anything else. People saying Hollywood is dead….a bit exaggerated, it’s these movies that dead on the big screen

@niallrussell7184

16 күн бұрын

There have been a lot of *steaming* movies in the last few years! 😏

@liamphibia

16 күн бұрын

Gary from Nerdrotic keeps talking about it.

@langdons2848

16 күн бұрын

Freudian slip there with the "steaming" comment - or "A" level trolling.

@Osprey850

16 күн бұрын

Good point. That's what this looks like, a generic action comedy along the lines of what Netflix has been churning out for the last 5 years, and it's hard to justify paying to see in the theater what you're now used to seeing at no extra cost at home.

@kreese-yi2nb

16 күн бұрын

Netflix, Disney and Warner broke movie theaters together.

1: movies have too much competition today (KZread, TikTok laziness, ect) 2: we’ve been trained to just wait for movies to get on streaming services 3: it might be just me, I didn’t even know the movie was coming out 😂

@parzavaal5335

15 күн бұрын

I've never seen a single ad for this movie.

For this film to flop, a few factors have come together: 1-Ticket prices are too high for most 2-Streaming has become so popular and mainstream that it is an easier alternative for most. 3-As Little Platoon pointed out, blockbuster films dominated previous years, but smaller films did not. Now we have almost no blockbusters, the lack of money the smaller films make is more transparent. 4-There is still a cost of living crisis for some. Entertainment is the first thing to be cut out of any income. 5-the advertising was weak. I heard of the film but I thought it was coming out in the latter half of the year, not now. 6-Hollywood Studios destroyed the Movie-Star. They made sure individual actors or actresses no longer had the power to carry a film. And now films are suffering for it.

@AlexJaneson

14 күн бұрын

When do you think that Hollywood destroyed the movie star? The 2000s?

@TheRandomViewer-zv4bv

14 күн бұрын

@@AlexJaneson I want to say no...but considering the franchises that rose in that decade, I would say so. The Star Wars Prequels, Harry Potter, Sam Raimi's Spiderman, even Lord of the Rings-people did not go to see them because of the actors and actresses. And when Studios realised they could get away with millions without a big star, just a recognisable name, that was it. At the very least the 2000's laid the foundations. Then the 2010's came along and that was the death-knell.

@AlexJaneson

14 күн бұрын

@@TheRandomViewer-zv4bv Yup, and now they’re in a pickle since the franchises aren’t doing as well as they were in the past two decades, and they haven’t developed any movie stars younger than 50.

Ryan Gosling has never Been a movie star though the studios have tried their hardest. Time to bring someone new to the industry who has a backbone and charisma unlike most Hollywood actors today.

There's a perfect storm: The film-writing is terrible. Politics has invaded everything so now we've become hyper-aware of any hint of "the message." Hollywood has repeatedly told men how much they hate them. The films show their disdain for men which makes movie-dates not something men will organise. Many people now despise the media for many non-media issues, because of the way the industry behaves. Video games are massive and women are amused by social media/casual games so that they are never faced with looking for something to do. The political divide between male and female teens is destroying dating. Home TVs have are huge and home sound systems can shake the floors, providing cinema experiences at home. Cinemas have been destroyed by lockdowns. Lockdowns have trained people to stay home. Studio streaming services lead to expectations that big-screen films are just a few months away from cinema releases. Inflation has made people poor. Bingeing numbs people to excitement around video. KZreadrs are providing excellent entertainment. Budgets are so large that making a profit is difficult.

@franciscodanconia4324

6 күн бұрын

The quick releases to streaming have always puzzled me. Back in the early days of VHS you wouldn’t get a release of Commando at your local rental store within a month or two of it’s premier, so you knew you had to see it in the theater or wait for a very long time. Streaming releases should be held at least 3-6 months from the time a movie exits the theater. But I guess the medias main goal now is to build their streaming revenue. I know it’s a big focus at Warner-Discovery.

It flopped because people just aren't worried about movies right now. The economy is tanking and the world is in turmoil. Even when people do have the money and time, there's a million different things you can do with that time and money now. Movies have to compete with streaming (themselves), video games etc. The pie is getting smaller.

@greggibson33

16 күн бұрын

Actually it's the exact OPPOSITE. The majority of people see movies to escape their everyday turmoil as shown by Barbenheimer's gigantic success.

@RenlangRen

16 күн бұрын

The thing is half the movies today are lectures about how bad the audience is, and not fun escapism.

@greggibson33

16 күн бұрын

@@RenlangRen I suggest taking a break from The Drinker's videos. 🦜

@kicknowledgesmith8608

16 күн бұрын

Half? Not true at all

@pauperslament3467

16 күн бұрын

The movies are shite. Plain and simple.

George is right; there is a general loss of confidence; the film/tv makers need to win the audience back.

A movie about a fit simp who takes punches for m’lady when he isn’t sobbing/pining for her in his car. It shouldn’t be a surprise that the movie is failing.

Inflation and Taxes have made pirates of us all

@blshouse

16 күн бұрын

I would like this comment, but I don't want to be on (another) watchlist. Oh, I probably shouldn't hit the reply button on this either.

@RenlangRen

16 күн бұрын

Just be happily surprised that utube didn’t shadow ban or outright delete your post.

@Coconut-219

16 күн бұрын

Yep, market purchasing power. Although I'm sure the nearly across-the-board dive in product quality certainly isn't doing them any favors either.

@aaronreeve1414

16 күн бұрын

Yo ho ho, we took a bite of Gum-Gum.

@ronburgundy3172

14 күн бұрын

Inflation affects those of us with lower income

The 90s would have been the perfect time to make a Fall Guy film. Enough time would have passed for fans of the show to still remember it and it would fit perfectly into the over the top 90s action scene. Maybe that’s what happened, somebody had this script lying in a drawer for 30 years?

@mhitson7483

16 күн бұрын

I believe that is the case

@NathanCassidy721

16 күн бұрын

Possible. There's a lot of scripts like that right now.

@ronwoodhouse2896

16 күн бұрын

You could not make it in the 90s without it being steeped in irony. Think The Brady Bunch Movie.

@davidgantenbein9362

16 күн бұрын

Not more like the early 00s? That’s when Three Angels for Charlie happened and was quite successful.

@CMCAdvanced

15 күн бұрын

​@@ronwoodhouse2896that would be amazing

Why'd it flop? No one wants their favorite childhood TV shows reinvented for "modern audiences." C'mon man, that's one of your catch phrases. The premise of the TV show was simple, Hollywood stuntman leverages his skills to moonlight as a bounty hunter. Cool truck, hot sidekick, that's all it needs to be.

Certainly for my generation, "the fall guy" was an eighties tv series. Whether it is or not, this thing reeks of remake, and we are done with those. That's why it flopped. We also find Ryan Gosling tedious.

The "CHiPs" remake about a decade ago should have been warning about how deep the T.V. I.P. barrel really was.

@eeddieedwards3890

16 күн бұрын

They are going to cast Will Smith and Martin Lawrence in a reboot and call it "Chocolate CHiPs".

@themittonmethod1243

16 күн бұрын

Same could be said for the 2006 "Miami Vice" remake film... should have been left in the drawer or burned the script before it got made. Cheers!

@motherurck7542

16 күн бұрын

​@@themittonmethod1243Hey, the Miami Vice movie was good. Rewatched it recently, and it still holds up.

@qui-gonrick7002

16 күн бұрын

Yeah, but the CHIPS movie sucked.

@jackflash8218

16 күн бұрын

I'm gonna laugh my ass off when they try to make a movie reboot of a 50 year old tv show that got cancelled halfway through it's first season... cuz you know that's not far off. 😂😭😂😭😂😭

This movie isn't an original IP. It's based on a five season TV series from the 80s.

If you go to a burger joint and 9 times out of 10 you get a bad burger, you stop going to that place.

It was the fact that with the 2 trailers I saw they were on opposite ends of the ESG DEI spectrum. And they led with the trailer that made it look like the typical "Waman" in charge and great, man beneath her, and yet he treats her like she is everything while being treated like crap back from her. So it instantly made me go "nope clearly not for me". Then the second trailer came out and it seemed like something 15 years ago might have been worth watching for dumb fun. But when you combine the 2 trailers together who knows what they movie actually is and we are all done with the bait and switch. So no one watched cause no one knew what it was.

@WinstonSmithGPT

14 сағат бұрын

EXACTLY. The whole MOVIE was like this. Popcorn action crime caper poorly attached to a romcom written by a blue hair softly stroking her cooch while banging out Ryan Gosling fanfic.

The fall guy isn't original if its based on the TV series from the 80's.

@Art-is-craft

16 күн бұрын

Original in that it is not part of a franchise.

@oessh9611

16 күн бұрын

@@Art-is-craftthat’s the problem just make a new movie that hasn’t been made before. It’s not that hard 😂

@Art-is-craft

16 күн бұрын

@@oessh9611 A Star is Born in 1954 was a remake of an older movie. As was Scare face. The problem is not that the fall guy was a 40 year old tv show but more to do with the fact cinema is dead and Hollywood is finished. We are watching the last days of cinema.

@davebarrowcliffe1289

16 күн бұрын

The lyrics to the original TV show are a podcast in themselves... Check it out! 😂😂😂

Everyone's broke, not risking $40 on something that has 80/20 chance of making me mad.

@ronburgundy3172

14 күн бұрын

Much to hollywoods detriment you can always go back to the classics

@jazzdub4958

14 күн бұрын

lol or the product is just crap nowadays.

@Lotsielots

14 күн бұрын

Just out of interest, what is just the price alone of a prebooked movie at a quiet time of day? Because I can't believe Americans have to pay $40 for a ticket alone! Who would spend even close to that?

Who would've thought a movie about a stuntman based on a tv show from the 80s no one under 40 remembers wouldn't make the 300-450 million needed to turn a profit? I'm shocked! /s

Fall Guy was an old TV show staring Lee Majors and Heather Thomas. And people aren't going to movies good or bad anymore, because we just don't care. Hollywood is dead, and we have books.

It's simple, people now expect bait and switch. We wait for people we trust to tell us if it's good or not.

Besides actually good films, what we want is to not spend $40 for 1 ticket, a small drink, and a small popcorn.

@spacemanspud7073

16 күн бұрын

Do you live in a city? Everyones talking about these super prices but my small-ish city is still at 10 bucks a pop

@commotiocordis1037

16 күн бұрын

@@spacemanspud7073 My small-ish town that is NOT the case. Also all the cheap theatres closed so you have to drive further to pay more at the remaining theatre. Why? It's cheaper and nicer to wait for it to come to blu-ray or streaming. I can pause it, eat whatever I want drink however much I want without having to worry about driving afterwards. And that's before you take into account the horrific woke content and nonsense in most movies. Just because someone on the internet swears it isn't woke means nothing, been duped too many times. They've really dug themselves a hole, even the idea of "but if you don't support them, there'll be no new content!" Who cares? The new content blows, I mostly watch old stuff anyways which, thankfully, much like books, there's a DEEP back catalogue to mine at this point.

@sick911

16 күн бұрын

Don't buy popcorn and soda the

@banhammer3904

16 күн бұрын

Smuggle in a flask full of moonshine for a better experience.

@jeffhartley7548

16 күн бұрын

@@spacemanspud7073 I agree. The cost aspect is being exaggerated a bit. There are some places for sure in Manhattan or San Francisco that are that expensive, but for most of the rest of the country (including major cities) is about $12 to $20 per ticket. The high side of that is still a bit much, so it does eliminate viewing films on a whim.

Yes, as someone else pointed out above is that this flick is a reboot of a fairly to better 1980’s TV show. It starred Lee Majors maybe should’ve stuck with show’s premise rather than rewrite.

You know Rob is the man, when he speaks there is no interruption.

Did you know that it’s not an original IP, but based on an old TV show?

@Knirin

16 күн бұрын

Mid 80s action shows apparently don’t have a lot of staying power for some reason. Mid 80s action cartoons do though.

Excessive advertising and loss of classical tv networks have killed the studio's ability to advertise movies. I hadn't even *heard* of this movie. Probably because I mute and look away from any advertisements because there are so many that they got on my last nerve. Five advertisements for 11 minutes of content is obscene. It's gone beyond "paying the bills" to "we can occupy 89% of their visible field before they have seizures".

@docsavage8640

16 күн бұрын

I only heard of it because this channel mentioned it a week or two ago. Terrible marketing.

@Rotom0479

16 күн бұрын

Sounds like you just need to adapt

@donkeysaurusrex7881

16 күн бұрын

I saw a ton of commercials for it on KZread. Looks great.

@randomcharacter6501

16 күн бұрын

​​@@Rotom0479No. Companies that have products to sell need to adapt. Consumers have no responsibility to purchase a product over any other and modern corporations seem to have forgotten this. Edit: On the chance you meant "adapt" to mean just block ads I totally agree lol.

@Skitdora2010

16 күн бұрын

@@donkeysaurusrex7881 I saw them too, thought it looked dumb.

If I had to hazard a guess as to why the movie flopped, it's probably because when the average moviegoer hears the title "The Fall Guy" they immediately think of the old '80s TV show & think, "Oh, it's just another dumb remake. Pass..." People are tired of remakes, reboots & re-imaginings. They're tired of warmed-over old leftovers, regardless of who's starring in them (since, as discussed, "stars" as such don't really seem to matter that much anymore anyway) and want something _new._

Did no one here ever see the Fall Guy show with Lee Majors and Heather Thomas? Mr. Burnett, not even you?

No one has any expectation of any movie to be good. They've given up.

@tla_studios

14 күн бұрын

They've put the industry on mute. How many times can they get you excited about an IP you liked and they destroy it until people have NO interest even getting excited about it. "IP Mining" - Bob Iger

The fall guy flopped because it’s an above average movie at best, Hollywood has completely destroyed any goodwill we had toward them, and movies are so expensive now that if we’re going to pay money to see your movie, it better be good.

Most people probably won't remember the old TV series from the 1980s.

Honestly, as someone on near minimum wage and not a huge number of rid hours at that, I’m basically waiting for the cinemas to say “screw it”, get inexpensive licenses in and give me a £5 or cheaper showing of something they selected on purpose. I don’t care if it’s black and white or public domain at this point, I just want to be able to afford to go without risk of coming out angry that my treat for the week was not only poop but purposefully so.

i can literally get the UK blu-ray of any new movie for the price of a movie ticket. i just have to wait a few weeks after the movie's theatrical release, which is not a problem. then i own the movie, i can watch it in my home cinema as many times as i want, without any risk of assholes ruining it for me, i can pause to go pee or get more snacks or beverages at supermarket prices, i can have my dog next to me on the sofa, i don't have to drive anywhere or wait in line... so i've basically stopped going to the cinema. not because i don't value movies, but quite the opposite. i value movies so much that i don't want them ruined by morons in the cinema anymore.

@Rotom0479

16 күн бұрын

Going to the cinema is a part of the experience though

@IronCriterion

16 күн бұрын

That's just depressing.

@wesbrannick8269

16 күн бұрын

​@Rotom0479 used to be. Until people became overwhelmingly rude or just annoying. The last movie I saw in theaters was Deadpool and it was a terrible experience. Ryan Reynolds could say the word "the" and everyone would lose their minds laughing.

@Rotom0479

16 күн бұрын

@@wesbrannick8269 Well, you'll just have to put up with them then.

@marie4peace

16 күн бұрын

I agree 💯 percent the public space is no longer safe or fun

It's a "Hollywood movie about making movies", which comes out of Hollywood about once a decade, and rarely succeeds. Not because they're bad or badly made, but it's only relatable to the tiny group of who make movies. Sometimes they do OK, but they're not blockbusters and shouldn't be treated like one. The only notable exception was Tropic Thunder, and that was a hero-less movie that ruthlessly eviscerated every aspect of Hollywood. It went so hard on the satire, it dodged the usual "honest guy in the middle of craziness" the genre usually employs.

@AlexJaneson

14 күн бұрын

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood did well too

A film being 'not a shit as usual' is not reason to go see it.

Why did it fail? People can smell a gold-digging attempt from a mile away. Especially those from the 70's and 80's. They haven't done a good one yet. A-Team, Dukes of Hazzard, Magnum Pl, Starsky and Hutch, Beverly Hillbillies, Baywatch, Brady Bunch, etc. We loved the originals because we got to know them over a few years. Trying to capture an audience that originally took years to capture, in a 90-minute film, is nearly impossible. You cannot avoid the comparisons. Plus, when the TV shows were on, the humour wasn't completely based on sex, which most remakes are. Pathetic, low-hanging fruit, and Gex X demands better.

It's simple. With the cost of tickets these days, if your interested in going to see a film you choose the One you want to see that month. You can't afford to go and see a movie every week anymore.

@banhammer3904

16 күн бұрын

Every month? More like a handful every decade.

@Kwolfx

16 күн бұрын

Totally on point. A couple of days ago I was in Los Angeles for a funeral and the person most affected by this said to me afterwards, “I need to get away for a few hours, forget about about everything for a while.” So I said, “Why not catch a movie, I’ll pay.” So I got out my phone and asked my cousin what he wanted to see. Dune 2 was still playing and he told me he hadn’t seen it and I said going to great movie that takes place on another planet is a perfect almost 3 hour distraction. I paid for two seats for a matinée, and the discount rate for a weekday was $16 a person and to get popcorn and a soda for 1 person was another $21 or $22. With prices like that a movie has to be a special event for me to go see it. If I hadn’t been doing a good deed by taking my cousin to a movie, I wouldn’t have paid those prices to see anything new, like The Fall Guy. The trailer for it looked very generic to me.

@KissellMissile

16 күн бұрын

@@Kwolfx Gotta get out of L.A.

@kevinpike4459

16 күн бұрын

@@Kwolfxboy your popcorn is expensive. It's not where near that much here in the UK. Although when i do go to see a film, I don't bother with the drinks and popcorn. Just the movie tickets.

@Kwolfx

15 күн бұрын

@@kevinpike4459 - I didn't buy the popcorn, I was just checking prices. Hot dogs and chips cost $20, nachos cost $16 and a Coke or other soft drink by itself was $10 as were boxes and bags of various types of candy. The only discount was the theater validated my parking which saved me a great deal as it would have cost $10.70 per hour before 4pm and $2.70 an hour after 4 pm. This was at the Regal Sherman Oaks Galleria in Sherman Oaks, California. So, at least I didn't have to pay for parking.

What I want, as a consumer, is a movie that has a good plot and entertains me for 90 to 120 minutes. There is an added bonus if it challenges me to think about what it was all about. Resonance… I guess. I’m burnt out with all the cgi/explosions/shallow plots/hollow acting. The Thing is a great example - To this day… I still think and ask whether Childs was it at the end. Nowadays, everything is canned and forgettable. Why waste money on something forgettable?

Fall Guy without Heather Thomas? That’s where the conversation needs to begin and end.

It sucks that we are putting SO MUCH pressure on movies like 'The Fall Guy' and 'Challengers' to be hits but... this is where we are now.

@Robyamdam

16 күн бұрын

did you not listen to what they said in the intro? It's being released at the beginning of movie season

@JustTooDamnHonest

16 күн бұрын

The reason why is Hollywood continuously burn us and has the nerve to call us the racists, sexists and phobias. TFG is a Hollywood film just like Challengers and when we go to see it then we are basically giving Hollywood more money to call us morons and then they see the success and then they infect it and destroy it and laugh as we see something that we like get violated by Hollywood elites.

@blshouse

16 күн бұрын

Opposite though. It sucks that there isn't enough pressure on movies like all of them, to be hits. Otherwise why would I bother opening my wallet in the first place?

@jeffhartley7548

16 күн бұрын

@@Robyamdam Plenty of movies don't do that great at the beginning of movie season. That isn't some magic time or else every movie would release then.

@jazzdub4958

14 күн бұрын

i couldn't give a shit about films today, Hollywood wanted me to go, so i'm gone with my dollars.

When you're more likely to get disappointed by watching new movies, you just stop going. I just collect old movies now and when there is a good film once in a while I pick it up a lot later down the line when the general impression is locked in stone.

Thank you Robert. Dead Reckoning was awful. As someone who loved Fallout, DR was a slap in the face that assumed its audience had a room temperature IQ.

When you make a nostalgic based movie, make sure there is a nostalgic audience out there to watch it. The over 50 crowd that would remember the original TV show does not go to the movies anymore.

I think it’s less about the movies being made and more about people don’t have money to go to the movies anymore. Going out to a movie is almost a luxury now with 3 years of crazy inflation

@nuggetsnicole4851

15 күн бұрын

💯💯 who wants to pay all that money for a bad movie

@cinemacola6398

15 күн бұрын

I think this is the biggest reason out of everything mentioned. You can get a great TV for the price of one trip out to the theater, so streaming is better for most people and more affordable.

I saw the fall guy in theaters with friends and loved it a lot. I’m real sad it flopped, I thought it was great :/

@donkeysaurusrex7881

16 күн бұрын

It hasn’t flopped yet. It seems just about everyone who has seen it liked it. It could have legs if the studio doesn’t yank it for streaming next week.

@wesbrannick8269

16 күн бұрын

I'm glad you loved it. This is one movie I'm actually excited to see but am just waiting for it to hit streaming.

@Paulin-pw5jx

16 күн бұрын

It was great fun people are just ridiculous they will go see Godzilla vs Kong but shit on this movie

@Mereologist

16 күн бұрын

Some people have become so accustomed to wokeness that they don't even notice it any more. I'm sure such people will be deeply confused why everyone else thinks it's terrible.

@confitao

16 күн бұрын

Loved it, just saw it today. It ain’t amazing but serves the purpose and it is just good old fun, exactly what I wanted and needed.

Part of the problem for me, was that the preview teaser gave away the the entire plot completely. It was like a 90 second synopsis of the entire movie, including the fact that the hero and the femme fatale get together at the end of the movie. It was a live action wikipedia article. I watched the trailer and felt "Well, I know what happens, now I don't need to spend $45 dollars to go see in it a theatre with potentially rude audience."

The biggest issue is the film is just basic, not special. I was going to go with a friend and when their schedule changed I thought “is this worth heading out for without friends” and answered no.

Next. Buck Rogers and the Bionic Strong Female Character in the 23rd Century.

@rog6725

16 күн бұрын

If Disney get's the rights they'll probably make him have a love affair with twiki

@CJRoberts8812

16 күн бұрын

They already redid "The Bionic Woman" on TV a few years back. One season.

@BumfluffAddlepate

16 күн бұрын

@@CJRoberts8812 Since when has that ever stopped the corpse-rapers in Hollywood from brutalizing an existing IP?

Maybe peoples faith in movies has been ruined and they think "Why pay to watch a movie when it could be made by ideologues that hate me?" I've recently started using my prime video account. I look at the date the movie was produced and if it is recent, I give it a miss

@jeffhartley7548

16 күн бұрын

Yep, I rarely watch anything post 2016 unless it is something from Scandinavia,, Japan or Korea.

@greggibson33

16 күн бұрын

You win dummest system for choosing movies award. 😆

@jeffhartley7548

16 күн бұрын

@@greggibson33 Why? Even Chris Stuckman has pointed out the studios started pressuring writers to insert "topical" themes and callouts in their scripts. This started about 2016 (for obvious reasons).

@greggibson33

16 күн бұрын

@@jeffhartley7548 Sorry my post was for main post. Korea has become a power in world cinema.

@Coconut-219

16 күн бұрын

@@greggibson33 Utter non-argument + misspelling + emoji use; watch out everybody we've got a real intellectual giant over here...

It looked like a direct-to-streaming movie, most people want spectacles and huge cinematic experiences now when going to the theater, and since movies only stay in the theater for 1-2 months now most people can just wait until it gets released on a streaming service and not have to pay so much. Convenience has killed the movie industry in more ways than just mediocre films.

The marketing for the movie was horrible.The few ads I did see for this movie made no sense and gave me no idea if this was a movie I'd be interested in. What's it about? What genre? If a movie can't convey it's identity in a trailer it probably doesn't have one

Still remember Lee Majors and his 4x4 truck....that could do anything for his time.........I got good memories from that

how do these guys NOT know that The Fall Guy was a tv show from the 80's? It was quite popular. Wow ... they did zero research. This sours their future shows IMO.

@jeffhartley7548

16 күн бұрын

Agreed. This panel is really just mainly focused on Disney offerings i.e. Marvel and Star Wars and their knowledge is very weak outside of that area.

@greggibson33

16 күн бұрын

@@jeffhartley7548His videos are like watching a bunch of old ladies complaining about everything. WTF

@Goro_Maj1ma

16 күн бұрын

🥱 tv show was shit that's why. And it was hardly popular. Hard to do research on such a shitty show. 🥱

@aaronreeve1414

16 күн бұрын

Literally the first sentence of the Wikipedia article says that it’s based on a TV show…

@harambe5131

16 күн бұрын

Only 70 year olds know it was show.

The problem with the Fall Guy is encapsulised in the song. First they waited for the end credits to play the song and reveal the important cameo. And then they didn't sing the whole song. They left out lyrics like "I'm not the kindto kiss and tell but I've been see with Farrah" and "I might jump an open drawbridge or Tarzan from a vine. Cause I'm the unknown stuntman who makes Eastwood look so fine." Now I get why they left out those lyrics Because they are dated references to the stars of the time of the show, some of whom are dead. But that's also how the song shows the problem with the movie. It's not the same. The Fall Guy wasn't a love sick puppy. Something was missing.

My thoughts, exactly. I wanted the movie to do well to show the studios we don’t want an agenda, but I wasn’t compelled to go see it myself. It’s not enough to not push a message. We need good films.

If they had used the original theme song from the tv show it might have got a little more love. That’s what I remember most from the show as a kid.

@JohnEllis-qo7gl

16 күн бұрын

They do use it.

@dariusewing6962

16 күн бұрын

@@JohnEllis-qo7gl NOT IN THE PREVIEW

@killroy2014

16 күн бұрын

@@JohnEllis-qo7gl it´s not the "original theme song" performed by Lee Majors tho

@WorldPeace21

16 күн бұрын

The only actor mentioned in the original theme song who is still relevant is Clint Eastwood. Even then it makes no sense today because Ryan is too young to be a double for Clint.

Tickets are too expensive to go see a meh action movie like this

I've got another theory. People are sick of movies about people who make movies. This isn't a new thing for me. I never liked 'the player', I recently got ten minutes into 'Get Shorty' and said 'nup'. Tarentinos last film bored me to death. I never saw the origonal 'Fall Guy' but I don't remember him ever actually doing any stunt work in a film???

"Ryan Gosling is my favourite actor" said by nobody ever.

Drinker's review basically implied the film is yet another "check your brain at the door" movie. What the hell do we want?! How about movies with solid plot, likable, relatable characters, decent script, etc. Popcorn movies can be a nice diversion, but it seems every other movie that comes out (especially in the summer months) seems to be this type of movie. Also, I would add that for me there is an overabundance of CGI. Maybe it's my age (61) but as soon as I see an ad for these movies I'm immediately turned off. I believe many people, in similar ways, feel it's just not worth the money, and, yes, there are no real stars left.

@darkoale3299

15 күн бұрын

I'm 46 and completely agree with you.