A lot of people think Super Saiyan God is Unearned, but is it? Find about Unearned Power-Ups in Dragon Ball here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/kW1optlvisXXkrg.html

@dedskull6185

10 ай бұрын

I think it was unearned for goku but earned for vegeta

@kirbyof590stars

10 ай бұрын

@@dedskull6185 why is that? I thought it was very well earned for Goku.

@animeupdateszandtalksofomk4410

10 ай бұрын

@@dedskull6185 Nope it's not unearned for Goku

@Gohan-dx2ok

10 ай бұрын

Vegeta earned super saiyan god in my opinion

@dedskull6185

10 ай бұрын

I just think the ritual was more a way to reveal pan existing but I could be wrong

Super Saiyan God is so cool yet under-utilised, I really like how it was done in the manga though with Vegeta using it against Goku Black

@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman

10 ай бұрын

Ikr

@EMICIME

10 ай бұрын

Yeah this was cool

@axelevers5818

10 ай бұрын

Yep i loved that part

@kingtiger5045

10 ай бұрын

Also when goku clapped hit with ssjg

@bubmario

9 ай бұрын

If Dragon Ball Super is ever redone with better animation and writing that simplifies inconsistencies between the movies, manga, and original anime, then I want them to animate this moment instead of Goku doing it in the ToP.

One of the most underrated forms that was heavily sidelined once SSJB made its debut, glad to see it still has relevance 10 years after it’s debut

@Yamchasbestfr

10 ай бұрын

Yea ssjg is way better than ssjgssj

@zoltikw

10 ай бұрын

@@Yamchasbestfrfacts

@Manoj-wg5zp

10 ай бұрын

It was pretty well used in Manga. People should check out manga in my opinion.

@The_Mastermind-

10 ай бұрын

Yeah it got foreshadow it is very underrated

@vegitobluekkx2069

10 ай бұрын

​@@Yamchasbestfr🧢🧢🧢🧢 +📻

still better than Super Saiyan Blue 💀

@Ibumirza

10 ай бұрын

Naw I wouldn’t say that super saiyan blue is it’s own form goku and vegeta created it honestly is more symbolic. People keep using the excuse that they got beat everytime they use it but it’s a shit excuse. Base ssj didn’t stand a chance against Buu, it’s literally the villians there going against. Also The broly movie really saved super saiyan blue, I’d say SSB isn’t great but It’s perfected form is better then regular super saiyan god.

@beyondhaircraze4418

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@Ibumirzahell no lmfao, it got introduced too early and kept being weirdly overused, like when goku used it against 17 and kale.

@invincible4u

10 ай бұрын

i agree

@arjyachatterjee6874

10 ай бұрын

​@@Ibumirza I agree with you. Super Saiyan Blue is also one of my favourite forms.

@infiniteWorlds24

10 ай бұрын

Not too much of a benchmark tbf

I would like to see one movie about Yamoshi and the whole story of the Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan God.

@CarthusDojo

10 ай бұрын

I think an OVA would be fine, but either way could be cool!

@SaimBinHassanRizvi

10 ай бұрын

​@@CarthusDojoOVA?

@emperortoho

10 ай бұрын

@@SaimBinHassanRizvi basically a tv special or direct to dvd short movie like history of trunks, bardock the father of goku, and a hero’s legacy

@cringestudios2931

9 ай бұрын

@@emperortohoare ovas considered then canon?

@emperortoho

9 ай бұрын

@@cringestudios2931 one made today would(i believe yo son goku and his friends return was an ova and that was canon), but the ones i mentioned aren’t canon(bardock’s backstory was of course changed, history of trunks contradicts trunks having super saiyan before gohan dies, and a hero’s legacy is from dragon ball gt)

Goku being indirectly possessed by the spirit of Yamoshi is a really interesting concept, such a shame the series did nothing with it and God became one of the least utilized transformations.

Favorite form in Dragon Ball. The uniqueness of Goku’s hair not spiking up and him getting skinnier instead sold me on it.

I'm glad Ssg is getting the respect it deserves

@invincible4u

10 ай бұрын

It really deserves it, the whole ritual is cool asl

@The_Mastermind-

10 ай бұрын

It not about rutial 😓😅

@MinhLe19303

10 ай бұрын

It's getting way more respect in Dragon Ball Legends.

@artistpal.shubham

2 ай бұрын

​@@MinhLe19303 yes really

@artistpal.shubham

2 ай бұрын

​​@@MinhLe19303ssj God is the definition of meta

Super Saiyan God has very confusing lore, but was also underused. I kind of wish they used it more in Super. (thankfully Broly added more use of it) Also it would be cool to see an explanation of what the Legendary Super Saiyan is. Of course Z Broly is the LSS, but that’s non-canon. Super Broly is mainly referred to as a Full Power Saiyan. Also Kale I’m not sure, but an explanation of the Legendary Super Saiyan would be cool!

@CarthusDojo

10 ай бұрын

Yeah I agree

I actually love how this turned out, combining both the Legendary Super Saiyan my this with the Super Saiyan God origin. It feels all interconnected and more meaningful than two separate legends that aren’t related at all, which is what I had assumed in the first place. Great job as always!

Honestly Yamoshi has the most inconsistent history across the entirety of Dragon Ball and that makes me really like him as an in-universe mythological character. He's so open to interpretation In the Toei Anime timeline with GT Elder Kai apparently has knowledge and recognition of the Super Saiyan 4 transformation despite being sealed for millions of years. And in filler previously seen on Namek, Vegeta talks about the previous Super Saiyan which shows a Golden Great Ape which seemingly was responsible for Planet Sadala's destruction. The GT Perfect Files supports by stating that the Golden Great Ape form appears to be the Super Saiyan form from the legends, and also go on to mention that Super Saiyan 4 might be the form from the legend that Yamoshi utilized. It's also worth noting that there are heavy implications by Paragus and Vegeta the original DBZ Broly movie that the Legendary Super Saiyan form displayed by Broly could very well be the same form in the original legend. So that means Yamoshi could have been the legendary Super Saiyan, the Legendary Super Saiyan, a Golden Great Ape turned Super Saiyan 4, or a Super Saiyan God. Clearly he has lived a very, very interesting life.

@burgezdoestuff8578

9 күн бұрын

It was a form which had all those powers AND was potrayed in different acspects of the forms , maknig him the most powerful version of a Saiyan .

I personally believe before SSGSS was introduced, they should’ve done SSGE like in that one sprite animation, so they master their forms completely before they go further beyond. Blue could’ve been discovered in the Black arc, and God Evolution would’ve been discovered during ROF.

@jantheking7028

10 ай бұрын

They had already mastered SSG while training with Whis. This is why SSG doesnt have any issues with ki draining, stamina drain, or dropping the form. Carthu even states that in this video.

@OGPepsiman

10 ай бұрын

@@jantheking7028 I know, I just think it’d make more sense along with the SSGSS Evolution thing specifically for God Forms

@DjTeeray

10 ай бұрын

There’d be no point in a god evolution form and doesn’t really make sense since it’s really just base form with god ki, it’s not like super saiyan where ssj2 was the evolved form of that

@OGPepsiman

10 ай бұрын

@@DjTeeray Again, I know, I just remembered that one sprite animation where SSJ4 Black fought Vegeta first, and thought it was pretty cool.

@OGPepsiman

10 ай бұрын

Not to mention, God deserved more screentime before going to the next form.

The Weird History of Super Saiyan God

@Yamchasbestfr

10 ай бұрын

The weird history of Super Saiyan god

@_theonlykingT

10 ай бұрын

The weird history of super saiyan god

@TheHunterNAtor

10 ай бұрын

The Weird History of Super Saiyan God

@cookman-zt1uf

10 ай бұрын

The Weird History of Super Saiyan God

@jacobsib3819

10 ай бұрын

The weird history of super saiyan god

Super Saiyan God is my favorite form and it sucks to see it get overshadowed so quickly. I wish it was used a lot more.

@axelevers5818

10 ай бұрын

We are the same in opinions and logic

Finally it's here! It was worth the wait as always. The way Carthy explains DBZ lore is so relaxing and sprinkles his opinion here and there which is just perfect.

I don’t think anyone ever mentions this but i love your editing style

@CarthusDojo

10 ай бұрын

Thank you!

my favourite form, it just feels slick and makes me go like 😃😎😎

@zarealextra9023

10 ай бұрын

nah fr tho ssg really be like that tho its just straight *cool*

@xenophagia

Ай бұрын

​@@zarealextra9023 what do you mean by "nah" then?

@zarealextra9023

Ай бұрын

@@xenophagia shit your right k i changed it ty

I really enjoy your KZread videos! As a fan, I find them incredibly entertaining,insightful,educational. Keep up the fantastic work.

Another deep dive into Dragon ball from carthu keep up the good work

AMAZING VIDEO. Seiously I love EVERYTHING about this video. the editing, images, music. its top tier.

@CarthusDojo

10 ай бұрын

Wow, thank you!

SSJ and SSG are the top transformations imo

@chromephone

10 ай бұрын

Saiyanmotion my man i compleatly agree but you should add SSJ4 too

@SaiyanMotion

10 ай бұрын

@@chromephone nah 100% js canonically speaking

@n0stalgia814

3 ай бұрын

Fr tho

@TheUnderscore_

Ай бұрын

@@SaiyanMotionUI Omen's sick too tho

@MiraiFreak

Ай бұрын

​Namek SSJ, B.O.G SSSG, Buu Saga SSJ3 and GT SSJ4*

7:35 I do not think it was cut, but rather retconned in the manga continuity. Trunks outright states that Goku and Vegeta's base forms have barely increased since the events of the Cell Saga (and those base power levels barely changed between Cell and Buu too, as Goku barely managed to reach Cell Games Gohan level in 7 years while Vegeta still needed the babidi boost), which means that Goku and Vegeta have never absorbed God ki in the manga but rather can tap in to its power in their base forms similar to Goku doing the same for the Ui technique. Overall in the manga, the lines between technique and form is very blurry.

Great videos keep up the great work

You were on point with ALL of the details that I’ve seen a LOT of people skip. Thank you.

Wish this SSG got more attention. Such a great and unique design for a form. Too bad Blue stole the spotlight.

@haiticheri3216

10 ай бұрын

fr

@jacobsib3819

10 ай бұрын

Fr fr

@flippnwhat

10 ай бұрын

Fr fr fr

@Manoj-wg5zp

10 ай бұрын

Well it was fairly used in Manga.

@vegitobluekkx2069

10 ай бұрын

Ssjb is better

Dokkan Battle Fandom: Wow this is cool! DBL Fandom: what

Super Saiyan God definitely should have gotten a whole lot more screen time, seeing as how it's the very same form that started it all for Dragon Ball Super. Super Saiyan Blue had been portrayed very horribly ever since the Dragon Ball Super anime.

Underrated form, and it's a Carthu video just wonderful keep up the great work

Super Saiyan God was so underused in the anime. Like #36 (I just wanted to say it)

I wish they hadn't introduced Blue until the Black arc or instead made it a separate transformation for Vegeta alone. If they'd done the former, Black would've been the one to show it first and in the process show that there's something stronger than SSJG as that would've essentially been something like his base form, being a god himself in a saiyan body. But he's still weaker than Goku and Vegeta as SSJGs, making his break into Rose something incredibly powerful and dangerous but also giving Goku and Vegeta a hint that maybe they could do it too. It would make Vegeta showing up later and going Blue then completely demolishing Rose a fitting situation, forcing Fused Zamasu to exist and it plays out as we know it. If the latter, Vegeta could earn it through training and Blue could be the first diversion in power and techniques they get. Blue being something that vegeta could hold over Goku because he earned it through instruction and training whereas god was something Goku got via a ritual. Especially since we know Goku doesn't like that. But if its power was on par with SSJG, picture say the ResF arc where it's SSJG vs Golden Freeza, the power differences are the same, but when Vegeta steps up we all think "omg did he get God too?!" then he turns blue and has this unique look and we'd all be going "WHAT THE F*CK?!" Course then there was the whole thing about Blue being "more efficient" and "less efficient" etc etc. Especially since the manga went back and forth on it. First Blue is extremely efficient with ki control, but the transformation itself is where things are lost so doing it twice in a row would make you weaker than just a base super saiyan (said by whis in the manga as vegeta fought Hit) then suddenly later Blue is a big stamina drain as a whole which was completely at odds with everything including the Res F fight because Blue's advantage was better stamina control over Freeza's AAAAGH. I love SSJG but they really dropped it too soon.

Love your vids keep up the good work

Love the vids❤

if we take into account the history of Shallot and Giblet, they are descendants of the Original Super Saiyan God, which is not Yamoshi as most think. Because I say this, simple: Akira himself in the 2018 interview said that Yamoshi was cornered by the Evil Saiyans and there he became the First Super Saiyan, but he was outnumbered and he and his 5 colleagues died (here begins the Legend of the Super Saiyan). After his death, Yamoshi's spirit (he's already dead remember) was wandering around looking for other pure-hearted Saiyans who needed a savior. Here the story of Shallot comes into play, since Giblet mentions that they are both descendants of the Original Super Saiyan God who, like yamoshi, lost his transformation (just like Goku against Beerus fighting in the underground cave) and died at the hands of the evil saiyans, being eliminated said savior. Besides, in the Broly movie (2018) Kikono informs Frieza that they were looking for both the Super Saiyan and the Super Saiyan God, implying that there was one that started with the Legend of the SsG. In conclusion, Yamoshi lent his spirit to one of the six good Saiyans that has Shallot and Giblet as descendants, but he is not the Super Saiyan God as such, he only intervened in the ritual.

@byjonasan757

10 ай бұрын

The God of Destruction Beerus took information about the spirit of Yamoshi, the original Super Saiyan in a prophetic dream, and thus learned about the Super Saiyan God, which would end up causing the events of Battle of Gods.

@RACH90810

10 ай бұрын

​​@@byjonasan757suprisingly yamcha triggers beerus. Pinpoint the location of the android. I think he was a saiyan reincarnated because he use his power to attract saiyan girls. The saiyan began to curl their tail because of that. Punished by god because his behaviour.

@MinhLe19303

9 ай бұрын

If you combined it with Cumber's lore, it's possible there is a Super Saiyan God before Goku.

@RACH90810

9 ай бұрын

@@MinhLe19303 Yamoshi survive but stomped by Oozaru by using super saiyan power to impress girl, the girl transformed because of super saiyan aura. The saiyans curled their tail to prevent the transformation. He is the one who survive others separate to other timeline. He was punished by enma by his action. He must endure the humiliation.

@xenophagia

Ай бұрын

​​@@RACH90810 wtf are you talking about, man? And "Yamcha"??

Great video - I forgot the subtle differences between the movie and anime - not that there were some just what they were

Love your videos Carthu!

Man I just love watching your videos

Super Saiyan God sounds like the type of fella to sneeze, excuse himself, bless himself and say thank you to himself

@gregkareem9824

10 ай бұрын

Bot

one thing i find fascinating about super saiyan blue is that it is just god stacked with SS. theoretically you can stack SS2 and 3 onto it as well, probably even great ape.

You’re the best Dragon Ball KZreadr without doubt. Keep up the amazing work :)

Love the channel just subbed keep it up!

Super Saiyan God is my favourite transformation, thanks for making this video!

@CarthusDojo

10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed!

Basically a monke with god ki.

i thought when i started watching this, i know everything already. Good thing watched the video because there were still things i didn't know. Great video

I love the editing on carthus videos

Kinda wish they would've pushed blue back until the Goku black arc. They could've learned from eachother while fighting and obtained blue / rosè at the same time. Would've also given the og God form more time to shine. I have no doubts ssg could've beaten resurrection f Frieza and then we could've gotten a whole tournament with it.

I like how who Beerus saw in the silhouette was left kinda vague, sort of leaving us wondering, is this Goku or is it someone else? Maybe it is Yamoshi that Beerus saw and he just so happened to look a little like Goku.

best explanation so far!

With all the retcons done ssg actually turned out pretty damn cool

Would LOVE a Yamoshi special. More Saiyan lore is always good (further show the irony of true saiyan power requiring pure heart/empathy but saiyans turn their back on it)

Ssg is my favourite form, i really love how unique it is. Closely followed by ultra instinct and og ss

Good video man 👍

@CarthusDojo

10 ай бұрын

Appreciate it

You taught me a lot today. Thanks!

@CarthusDojo

10 ай бұрын

Glad to hear it!

I only your vidoes a lot keep up the good work

@jaydano7931

10 ай бұрын

For only I ment I like

@Yamchasbestfr

10 ай бұрын

There is an edit button

Really wish SSG got more time to shine. Love the scared fire ki/aura and the hair color feels like a nod to the reddish fur of SSJ4!

This was great

Great video, Carthu! Btw, I'd love to see your take on SSJ3 vs SSG. I.e. , when Kale and Caulifla saw ssj3 in the TOP, their reaction made it seem like ssj3 was stronger than some of Goku's other forms. Even the fact the Goku powered down from it and went into SSG afterwards had some implications. Would love to hear your thoughts on it

@sidecharacter3193

10 ай бұрын

That probably has to do with the difference of god ki and normal ki. With ssj3 they could feel how strong it is

ITS SHALLOT

Great video! Very nice breakdown. You should do one about God Ki and how it works exactly and just the lower that's been introduced about it. Some people don't think it's special or powerful at all because of the enemies who show up and can match or surpass it.

@CarthusDojo

10 ай бұрын

I think God Ki kinda sucks too LOL

@brettz5288

10 ай бұрын

@@CarthusDojo 😂💀 it really does. Beyond the forms and increase in strength, I really don't understand how it's that unique. Ultra Instinct seems to be different and handled better. Wasn't there something that Beerus said I don't know if it was from the movie or the anime. I'm pretty sure it was from the movie. But that if you didn't have God ki, that you literally couldn't hurt him?

@Enerjjak

10 ай бұрын

Not to mention all the weird instances in which mortals can somehow seemingly sense god ki as well

@gliizee

10 ай бұрын

@@Enerjjak Frieza sensed it, Hit sensed it, at this point I wouldn’t be surprised if Krillin sensed it either.

@Enerjjak

10 ай бұрын

@@gliizee *Jiren twitches*

THE GOAT HAS POSTED LETS GO!!!

This actually makes sense🔥

These videos are so good. Really unlike any other DB KZreadr. And I’ve seen many channels like this over the course of years.

@CarthusDojo

10 ай бұрын

Wow, thanks!

I still like SSGSS more, but im happy to know that Ssg has some good history behind it. 😂😂

Can't wait to watch

Finally a yt video dedicated to my favorites transformation in dragon Ball!! Tysm carthu

@CarthusDojo

10 ай бұрын

Glad you liked it

@chineduajuzieogu7756

10 ай бұрын

Is this a bot? Cuz I've never had my favorite you tuber like or even reply my comment (no offense)

@Superalfiegamer

10 ай бұрын

​@@chineduajuzieogu7756It's not, Carthu responds to some peoples comments.

I actually prefer Goku not absorbing SSG into base tbh

The abandoned,forgotten,epic but not legendary,form that got finally back in ToP and only got highlighted in manga is now finally getting the spotlight of its own The one only SSG !🤘🔥🔥 Edit : How I think the story could have been worked like: In the Rof, goku wouldn't have unlocked ssb and Ssg goku and ssg vegeta could have fought freiza and could have together as a team and beat him (and vegeta could still have the spotlight once he unlocked ssg in the battle) then , at u6 tournament goku could have unlocked ssb and then ssbkk at zamasu and the rest could have been same. By this ssg could have gotten a lot time and attention

@Manoj-wg5zp

10 ай бұрын

It was used very well in the manga,You should check it out.

@brightspeed6782

10 ай бұрын

​@Manoj-wg5zp until perfected ssb, which pretty much solved the stamina issue

Great video about the super saiyan god transformation.

@CarthusDojo

10 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@StareachValcin

10 ай бұрын

@@CarthusDojo you're welcome.

the most frustrating thing is always when a new enemy comes along and can keep up in his baseform with our heroes highest forms thus far.

That makes more sense, but how did yamoshi lose the rebellion if he wasnt on the ssg time limit?

@CarthusDojo

10 ай бұрын

He still ran out of stamina. Remember when Gohan first became a Super Saiyan? He couldn't stay in the form very long at all and was likely far stronger than Yamoshi. It definitely puts a strain on the user.

SSJGod is my favorite transformation, and keep up the great work

I love your videos 🎉

@CarthusDojo

10 ай бұрын

thanks!

4:30 "The who'll never give up", so yeah, Cell called me and wanted to talk about that xD

Definitely my favorite form really good it was different and refreshing sad it got sidelined but it is nice to see that the community still likes the form

Seriously, ssjg is way better than ssjb (mainly for is minimal ki drain and its sadly forgotten about regeneration ability) just wish goku and vegeta used it more in the anime. Sadly it will be forgotten just like ssj2 and kaioken in base form. I would like to see a situation where goku uses kaioken on top of ssjg, as this would slightly negate the damage kaioken does to the user.

I literally can't wait

I would love to see a one-off manga about Yamoshi and his story, like the one Minato manga that just released. If it matches the tone of the DBZ specials about Trunks and Bardock, that'd really be something.

I remember when SSG was introduced I didn’t like it. I thought it was lazy and just looked like kaioken. But after doing more research it’s now my favorite form. I like how it’s not about the muscles but the ki control that equals strength. The fiery aura that comes with it. The form is so cool but maybe it’s a good thing it was dropped fast because it was only a matter of time before SSG would have been humiliated

the weirdest part of it is that it was replaced by a D tier form

Even though Super Saiyan God had the potential to explore upon. It really need an arc or maybe short comic special about Yamoshi leading up to obtaining Super Saiyan God🤔

Funny how you used Shallot 😂 Finally Shallot got some love 😂

SSJG's lore is weird and confusing, but it did kick off a new generation of Dragon Ball Fans that's for sure. 👍

SSB is a form that should’ve never existed in the first place my god; like SSG was so perfect and would be POETIC cause GT had SSJ4 as it’s form and super COULD’VE had the same thing with SSG but nooooo SSB had to come in and FUCK IT UP ESPECIALLY THE LORE OF SSG.

Very informative. I wasnt 100% on how it all tied together.

@CarthusDojo

10 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

I actually came back to this video for one thing, and that is because of Cumber. In SDBH Episode 4, when Goku went SSG against Cumber, Cumber immediately recognized the form, hinting that he was one of the Evil Saiyans that the OG SSG fought. Considering that he is also "The Ancient Evil Saiyan."

Another thing that makes ssjblue even more useless and unecessary Ssjgod is a calm, focused form, its not about muscle, its extreme power trought extreme control, something that normal ssj forms (1, 2,3 and 4) could never reach, it requires a calm mind Guess what else requires a calm mind? Thats right, UI Like, im the only one who thinks transitioning from ssjgod to UI makes more sense?

It took so long to explain that ssjg is just a saiyan using god ki in their base form💀💀💀

Surprised you didn’t use the SSG intro theme from Dokkan Battle, it’s a really fitting one

love your video's

Bro really broke it down, I feel like i can become Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan with all this knowledge 😂

I love this channel but please post more what if videos they are how I pass my time my favorite is what if goku was sent to berrus’s planet

I like to think that Yamoshi communed with Beerus to get an opponent strong enough for Goku to rely on the Ritual instead of his own strength.

I really wished that the ritual Super Saiyan God was it's own thing in the anime, so we could see it as a new "ace card" for when things get bad that isn't simply fusion. Alternatively, it would've simply been better if God was unachievable on your own and thus Blue was just Goku tapping into the absorbed God Ki through a new transformation. That way both God and Blue remain very special forms

All that explanation of the SSG and the ritual for the final question to be answered with a “It’s just base form with God ki” 🤣

Bro went from the brilliance to the confusion.

This along with Beast and ssj3 are my favorite forms.

I liked how he was like "OH F--"

Makes a lot of sense. Just like your explanation of Orange Piccolo.

I remeber when batgle of gods came out i watched it in middle eastern cinemas very popular here

Can't believe it's been 10 years already.

I absolutely love Vegeta in God, he looks so badass and i wish that was the power cap we got for a bit longer.