I was very happy to be able to sit down with Dr. Robert Glover ("No More Mr. Nice Guy") for a long chat the other day. When he wasn't cracking me up with his off-color honesty, we touched on a number of topics in our collective wheelhouse, including: love, attraction, authenticity, and men's need for a "tribe". My sexy grumble is my throat recovering from the flu. Enjoy. Dr. Glover's men's community: integrationnation.net/ Book a paid consultation: oriontarabanpsyd.com/consultations Social Media Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090053889622 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/orion-taraban-070b45168/ Instagram: instagram.com/psyc.hacks Twitter: twitter.com/oriontaraban Website: oriontarabanpsyd.com Orion's Theme: kzread.info/dash/bejne/iaaMpNyKYquqdbQ.html Thinking of going to grad school? Check out STELLAR, my top-rated GRE self-study program based on the world's only empirically-validated test prep system. Use the code "PSYCH" for 10% off all membership plans: stellargre.com. Become a Stellar affiliate and earn a 10% commission for every membership purchased by a new student you conduct into the program: stellargre.tapfiliate.com. GRE Bites: www.youtube.com/@grebites4993 Become a Psychonaut and join PsycHack's member community: kzread.info/dron/SduXBjCHkLoo_y9ss2xzXw.htmljoin Sound mixing/editing by: valntinomusic.com Presented by Orion Taraban, Psy.D. PsycHacks provides viewers with a brief, thought-provoking video several days a week on a variety of psychological topics, inspired by his clinical practice. The intention is for the core idea contained within each video to inspire viewers to see something about themselves or their world in a slightly different light. The ultimate mission of the channel is to reduce the amount of unnecessary suffering in the world. #psychology #dating #relationship

@eric_linden

4 ай бұрын

After listening to this, I tried to think of things to ask my wife to do for me. I find it very difficult. It’s like when people ask me what I want for Christmas or my birthday. I can’t think of things then either.

@michaelesq.atpcfii.9862

4 ай бұрын

2 ex-wives and a bankruptcy under his belt? Why would I want to listen to him?

@kurtvanluven9351

4 ай бұрын

Interesting tidbit. I opened another tab while the video was on, in order to obtain the book with the Alice Cooper song title in common. As I pushed the button to order, Dr. Glover said, "What happened?" Tell him Kurt, who is as extravagant as Jack Benny, purchased a USED hardback copy. I REALLY need this. At 61, I almost considered a bad "career" mentioned if I did not figure this out. Thanks.

@user-bv4px3rt8k

2 ай бұрын

ur kinda argumentative without actually listening to the older dudes bro lol

@jorgedebrito3781

2 ай бұрын

Sexual marked place Value.. Say something better

“How long are you going to wait before you demand the best for yourself?” - Epictetus

@joshua_finch

4 ай бұрын

'The best' has a very specific meaning there.

@snakegriffin4928

4 ай бұрын

Or the best “of yourself”, which is probably what was the actual quote

@dareartes4232

4 ай бұрын

I don't deserve it.

The Goat DR. GLOVER Edit: The best way to get out of a covert contract is to be in an overt contract by expressing, stating, or asking what your wants and needs are to her. The goal is not to get the girl, the goal is to see if the women is a good fit in your life.

@beebee_0136

4 ай бұрын

Caveat: All of these dynamics change once marriage and children are involved. What's obtainable in theory is not the same as practice.

@caesarprice3252

4 ай бұрын

​​@@beebee_0136You're not trying to get a girl to like you , to have sex with you, or to marry you. All you doing is vetting on what kind of woman she is to see If you want her in your life or not. Two big things you can test her in is if she actually likes you and can she reciprocate sexual affection. If not move on to a different woman.

@edhog

4 ай бұрын

Yes this exactly. Ive made objective statements to the women I’ve dated to see if they’ll fall in line or will continue to do the things they were vetted for. What are we? Well I don’t women in a monogamous manner that do X Y Z. Could be have exs or other men in orbit, posting pics, use snap chat ect. Making the contract overt is mandatory.

@D4no00

4 ай бұрын

@@beebee_0136 indeed it is, however this is a game of chances. The truth is that to some degree you can predict some of the outcomes or decisions. Before marrying that person, there are ways (and not only one) to see if his/her ideas and commitment aligns with yours. How good of a job you will do in this assurance will dictate future potential problems.

@BrotherTree1

4 ай бұрын

​@@beebee_0136 But it does at least reduce the probability of this caveat happening. No one ever said it's foolproof. In fact, no "solution" is 100% foolproof. What's the saying? "There's no such thing as solutions, only trade-offs"? We can tinker at the edges to reduce likelihood of failures in pretty much anything in life... that's all. Just do the best we can. Because we have no perfect options.

Nearly every man starts as a nice guy because we have so little options when we are young and dont want to take risks. Therefore everybody goes through that stage until he realizes he does not get what he wants and then sees the reality.

@dinsel9691

4 ай бұрын

Ugly blokes see attractive men get an advantage over other attractive men by being more kind, and they think that they can also compete with kindness 😂😂😂😂

His book was given to me by a college friend 15 years ago, and I passed it on to another young man since. Dr. Glover has changed my life for the better!

@TheNiceGuyShow

4 ай бұрын

Such a great book

I firmly believe in the axiom that a woman has to choose you for the relationship to work, you can't make someone do things for you if they are indifferent to you, if she doesn't want to do for you, you need to move on immediately. And that includes sex in a marriage, if she doesn't enjoy and seek to have sex and she's your wife. Its time to get out. She has no respect for you.

@snakegriffin4928

4 ай бұрын

This is why men should ALWAYS marry down. The moment she realizes or thinks she’s better or can do better than you, it’s over.

@themick6586

4 ай бұрын

@@snakegriffin4928 yes , hypergamy is often the downfall of many relationships . Women often perceive an option to be better but are often fool themselves.

@precisionleadthrowing4628

4 ай бұрын

100% - never put her on pedestal or treat her like an equal. she will try shittests with "you are looking down on me", don't fall for it. Once she thinks she is equal she looses respect it's all over

@dinsel9691

4 ай бұрын

After 20 years of me working, providing 100% of family finances while my wife was a housewife, it was all OK. Then kids grow up and she starts working. I ask for 50/50 split of expenses and she said she lost all respect for me, and she wants a divorce.😂😂😂😂

@Hannhbanana

4 ай бұрын

@@dinsel9691 yep, as a woman, I would too. Lol

Orion Taraban, that sounds like the name of a Jedi Master in STAR WARS.

@delocon

7 күн бұрын

I don't think he really likes it. Watch his interview with Rob Ager and see how he responds to Ager's compliment.

I have to relate for a minute... I was married to the same woman for 21 years. Now divorced, but she could not handle if I was sick, weakened or hurt or depressed. I was basically not allowed to have feelings that were anything less than neutral. Now many years ago I tried the Mr. sensitive approach and it did not have a very good result. When I had a hernia, I felt dehumanized if not it was like as if I were a car that was broken down rather than a human being with actual feelings. Ive come to realize women are not caring, supportive, emotional or physical creatures. I have to take care of myself and no one will do it for me. the only reason a woman will ever take any care of me at all is if she thinks it will serve her like servicing a car and most women can even seem to put air in their car tires.. . Call me a new mysoginist if you wish, but I think women are kind of useless for anything but sex; in my experience. Heck after surgery , and I didnt take the pain meds, even my own mom was like "get up" when she stopped over... To hell with women. No more mr. nice guy is right.

@facelessandnameless

4 ай бұрын

You’re 100% correct.

@user-mq6yk6ts3t

4 ай бұрын

I now even look at a my own 3 daughters with a mixed sense of love, sorrow, contemp and awe. It's just a hard fact of human nature

@brianmeen2158

4 ай бұрын

Sadly I’ve yet to date a woman that could handle me being a bit down Or depressed. Despite what modern society is saying the vast majority of women do not like signs of weakness in their man.

@brianmeen2158

4 ай бұрын

@@user-mq6yk6ts3thuman nature is not inherently good but many still seem to think it is

@brianmeen2158

4 ай бұрын

Btw I think my mother is a great person overall but I look back and see how she handled it when my dad was sick or had issues and I cringe .. suffice to say she wasn’t exactly that supportive or caring in those moments.

75 minutes is too short for two calibers of this magnitude! Hope we’ll see an episode II, I enjoyed it greatly 😃

@TheNiceGuyShow

4 ай бұрын

Totally

@brianmeen2158

4 ай бұрын

yeah I saw that it was an hour and 15 minutes and I was a bit disappointed lol

I’ve watched the full video and my Key takeaway was: 1. Orion is actually out here in the dating world and sees it for what it is. 2. Dr. Glover is a married man who’s been hitched longtime ago, and mostly operate on what he thinks ‘should be’. I like Dr. Glover, but just like Jordan Peterson i notice that even if they’re not very far off, they’re out of touch with how the dating market works now, due to their absence from it for decades. Or maybe they do know what’s going on, but can’t fully bring themselves to be ‘Real’ about it because it would negatively impact their personal relationships.

@dr.d3011

4 ай бұрын

Jordan Peterson and his wife are much older and come from a different generation. Dr Glovers 3rd wife (although much younger get) is still older when they met and she’s from Mexico. So different generation and different culture. So although they are right on many points, some of their recommendations are just not realistic. They are designed for a different group of women who don’t exist. That being said when just dating almost all their advice is solid.

@drew5884

4 ай бұрын

Yea great take, Dr. Orion had much more solid advice, perhaps the other Dr. is a bit outdated, I’m very grateful to have people like Dr. Orion on the scene 🙏

@Lokipower

4 ай бұрын

When he says he had some of his best success in his late 40s and 50s, that's probably not more than 10 years ago. That's pretty recent.

@latinaalma1947

4 ай бұрын

​@@dr.d3011We are not all dead yet BUT suitable for the older generation.

@strikingitrich7630

4 ай бұрын

Agreed. He’s academically intelligent but he’s not in the field.

Dr. Orion sounding DEEP today. Future in Voice Acting on the side.

@rob21

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I was wondering if he was fighting a cold.

@marcuschauvin7039

4 ай бұрын

flu maybe? its running through my house.

@EriPages

4 ай бұрын

If he wants a chance of winning that fight, he should pick up boxing classes. @@rob21

@EriPages

4 ай бұрын

@@marcuschauvin7039 flu cold convid19 are all frauds Those symtoms are due to mucus build up & dampened immune systwm by: 1. High sugar intake 2. Low vitamin d3 (sunshine) 3. Sedentary living 4. Insufficient sleep Those 4 points are combined over the autumn & winter months beginning Thanksgiving/Halloween through December holidays, and taper off end of February Those holidays filled with sweets + low sunshine + staying inactive indoors + staying up late are the cause of so called seasonal flu and colds and convid19 Notice it doesnt happen in Africa or Texas or southern Florida or Brazil It only happens when those holidays coincide with dark indoor winters.

@strikingitrich7630

4 ай бұрын

He actually used to be an actor

Shaking my head at 10 minutes in where he’s like, “nobody knows what women are attracted to.” I thought the men’s movement had moved past this kind of woman-flattering happy talk. Can’t we grow up and say the truth: we know what women are attracted to, and we can say it, even though it is discouraging to men and unflattering to women.?

@Strafeyy

4 ай бұрын

This. We know what 80% ACTUALLY like, despite what they say. As soon as I stopped pretending, results came, it's a disservice to pretend otherwise

@LARA-sg4bt

4 ай бұрын

What are women attracted to?

@ACruz-kq9di

4 ай бұрын

Dr Glover is great but is out of touch with modern women. Take what’s useful and discard the rest is how I learn best when listening to these personalities.

@croissants1280

4 ай бұрын

What do you think he's not up to date with? ​@@ACruz-kq9di

@PriusTurbo

4 ай бұрын

Glover is actually saying that what women tell you they are attracted to is probably not what they will actually like about you. He's not saying "oh it's a great mystery what these women like". There are general things that are obvious but at the end of the day, some women will like some guys for an unknown reason and they'll tell you it's "the X factor" or something like that. That's why he says choose women that choose you. He's also saying people find the "truth" attractive but he really means people find "authenticity" attractive.

Two of amazing guys that had an enormous impact on my self help journey. Completely changed my perspective on many occasions.

@Claus1234

4 ай бұрын

Same here... And may i add, David Deida too? :)

@snakegriffin4928

4 ай бұрын

@@Claus1234hey Clause, we won’t eat the bugs and we will own things and be happy 😂

This is one of the best conversations I’ve seen on KZread about dating, relationships, being a man and showing up for yourself!!

The reason women are attracted to him nowadays, is because the women that age have figured out that they don't have as many options as they used too.

@bov5020

4 ай бұрын

Zero self awareness all ego

@GUITARTIME2024

4 ай бұрын

Yep. My thoughtvexactly. He makes many good points but his wife is a Mexican single mom masseuse.

@hablabamosa

4 ай бұрын

What reason did he put forth instead ? Im curious

@LeelosAdventure

3 ай бұрын

its not just that. most men in his situation would not have the success with women he had. His success came from studying game and developing his own style. In his book "no more mr nice guy" he states learned dating buy studying game like a scientist. not fair to completely ignore that

@LeelosAdventure

3 ай бұрын

@@GUITARTIME2024 his wife is also 20 years younger than him. it would be like a 20 year old marrying a 40 year old man. if anything it should motivate you more

If you attractive it's easy. When women are attracted to you, then they come to you. Therefore, these men can carry themselves as if they are indifferent to female attention simply because they have a boat full of options.

@beebee_0136

4 ай бұрын

Caveat: All these dynamics change when marriage and children are involved. Please bear that in mind.

Two of the GREATEST voices for Men coming together for this episode, truly impactful. Love & support to my fellow men becoming the best/happiest version of ourselves 💯!

omg I totally agree.... "chose a woman that choses you "or your going to be chasing the whole time and its going to suck. to hell with chasing after beautiful women; the one with the cosmetic defect that you an overlook but no one else can will bring so much more peace of mind and peace of mind is priceless.

@dinsel9691

4 ай бұрын

For every hot woman, there is a hot guy who is sick and tired of dealing with her shayt

@whatsupbudbud

4 ай бұрын

@@dinsel9691well said :D

@brianmeen2158

4 ай бұрын

Agree I have known guys that chase women that have shown very little if any interest in them and that’s pointless. Even if they do end up dating he is going to have to work very hard to keep her interest. Much better off going with women that show strong interest in you right off the bat . That said, many guys struggle with attracting any women in that way

@riverat7558

4 ай бұрын

You know what kind of women I like? The kind that like me.

This is incredible. Thank both of you!

That was the book that started me on my journey! Thank you Dr. Glover!

One of your best video again Dr Orion....Real eye opener and great advises...

I'm so stoked that you guys got together and decided to have this talk!

I love you guys. This was awesome to watch, fun and enlightening. It's such a fun time when men can gather together to unwind with conversations and laughs.

Thank you! What an amazing conversation!!!

Thank you both, gentlemen, for an informative, entertaining and thought provoking discussion, it's very much appreciated. It would be fantastic to see more in the future.

This was a great discussion.. thanks Orion n Robert. The cab analogy was spot on as well

Thanks Dr. T - for introducing me to this man and these invaluable ideas. More please - Excited to see how you build on it!

This collaboration is great to watch. I'm currently reading his book, its helping me a lot to battle my codependency. Thanks to both doctors

What a great bunch of information even for us ladies!!! Loved the interaction!

The collab we all needed 🙏

What a great interview. I really enjoyed his book, No More Mr. Nice Guy.

Great interview! I saw Dr Glover on another show last week and enjoy his positive realist views. Keep doing what you are doing Orion, great stuff and much appreciated!

Fantastic conversation. I appreciate this thoughtful influence in the men's development space.

One of the BEST interviews I have seen ever on this subject. During your discussion I had to pause rewind and replay just so I heard it correctly. I paused your video multiple times and shared it with multiple people, Including with my 33 year old son who is coming out of a shitty relationship with a small child involved, his best friend who seems to always strike out, and two of my good buddies who are getting out of relationships and just need a pick me up. This video was also sent to my sister who has asked multiple times how I have attracted so many highly educated, successful women. That was finally explained to me in the 9:32 to around the 16:00 mark. I march to a different drummer, not my choice, but because I am too lazy to put a facade.

Moving forward, I hope we have more collaborations like these ❤.

The taxi cab analogy is spot on. It doesn't matter how much you do for her (a "boil the ocean" project), the moment you want something in return she starts sleeping on the couch and contacts a divorce attorney.

@mountainkid417

4 ай бұрын

But the problem is on us men to enter such dynamic in the first place. So we cannot blame women for that because she is (rightfully so) doing what's best. In a relationship, the person who is doing more and more invested in a dynamic (especially emotionally) is in a submissive position, while the one who is doing less and less invested is in a leading position. The former is the follower and the latter is the leader of that relationship. So what you're doing for her is nothing but a compensation for: 1. Her lack of interest in you 2. Your insecurities From my experience and observations, both women and men want a man to be the leader of the relationship and women to be in submissive position.

@EE12CSVT

4 ай бұрын

You describe pretty much all single women, and a big chunk of married ones. The last time I met a woman who reciprocated selflessly was in 2007, and she was the only one in some 24 years. I meet plenty of women, but it becomes apparent very early on that hell will freeze over before they reciprocate or don't expect to be treated as a princess and you her simp servant. The concept of mutual effort and mutual sacrifice is long since over.

@EE12CSVT

4 ай бұрын

​@@mountainkid417Heck no, women fight tooth and nail to be the dominant one, and to NEVER be submissive to the man. Outside of elderly couples, I can only think of three couples where the woman happily allows the man to lead. In every other relationship, the woman is very much the leader, and the man was long since castrated. If you meet a woman, the first thing she does is figure out how easy you will be to control so she's in control of the relationship. If she discovers the guy can't be, and that he expects she'll allow him to lead, she's off to find a guy who she'll lead.

@michaelcoletta4547

4 ай бұрын

​@@EE12CSVT That might apply to modern long-term romantic relationships/marriages... but not to the sexual marketplace and the psychology of sexual desire. A woman's innate, deep-seated sexual wiring will always compel her to crave the kind of man who is capable of dominating her in bed. This is why being a woman in a female-dominant relationship who regularly cheats---with or without the knowledge/permission of her submissive husband---is the ultimate fantasy for women who want (and believe they deserve) the best of both worlds. The extreme incarnation of this principle is the otherwise happily-married woman who openly dominates and cuckolds her husband; she gets any/all her needs met, and yet seeks (at least on occasion, or part-time basis) a man that she herself can submit to and look up to. This desire is so deep-rooted in women from an evolutionary perspective, that even the vast majority of women with dominant personalities are not immune to it. Humans are ultimately animals, and sexual desire is the most primal, animalistic instinct that exists. The same cannot be said for the quintessentially dominant man. If he finds and locks down a long-term relationship with a submissive woman who adores him and meets all his needs... his only possible need outside of that relationship/marriage may perhaps be occasional sex with other women. The major difference? The dominant husband will generally never be seeking outside sexual partners that are radically different from the ideal wife he already has... it's just more sex simply for variety's sake to spice things up. For the dominant wife, she's not just seeking sex for the sake of sex. She is seeking the kind of sexual experience that her husband can never provide her (regardless of how perfect he is for her in every other possible way).

@brianmeen2158

4 ай бұрын

@@mountainkid417yep! I know too many men that have spoiled their gf or wife rotten and then wonder why she isn’t happy or why she just wants more…? That is a huge problem these days - most guys have little or no standards and the only way they know to keep a woman satisfied is just doing everything she wants them to do. This has created a bad situation for everyone as it not only doesn’t make the woman happy but it makes it that much harder for other guys in the dating realm. It kills me that most guys will crawl through fire to sleep with a woman yet these same guys turn around and complain that women are entitled 🤔

You guys are priceless, loved the taxi cab analogy, been there. Sold the Cab and went sailing, female crew come and go now and a signed contract to ensure they leave or only stay onboard on my terms. Great stuff.

Great to see you too converse. Being yourself is attractive. As an actor it’s the same thing. You present yourself honestly. Its not your job for them to choose you and if they don’t it’s nothing you did.

Such a great interview and great job to bring two worlds of wisdom together.

Excellent! One of your most insightful talks!

you guys are both legends.... thanks for your work and advice. I am a better man because of your teachings.

This is a great talk. I am getting thru a breakup and this makes so much sense. Thank you for letting me reflect on my actions. I will be better from now on.

Thank-you. That was an arresting interview with two very interesting men. Have a nice day. 🙂

Love it! What a great interview. Some of my close friends are NMMG coaches. It was great to listen to Dr Glover himself 😄 Ps: damn, Orion. I’m sorry you went through that horrible stuff. Indeed hell hath no fury like a woman scorned 😢😣

This is possibly the best podcast I've heard on the topic of attraction ever? Certainly top 3-5. The concept of outcome indifference and the fact that there's almost nothing you can do to make a woman like you, so just relax and try and get to rejection quickly so you can move on is some big food for thought. It matches my experience with business. I started a freelance photography business 8 years ago and at the beginning, I used to bend over and give discounts and constantly follow up on enquiries to try and get clients to say yes, and I think I mostly just chased them away with my desperation and each rejection hurt really bad. Now, I just tell it like it is and say (metaphorically) like it or lump it, and I get much better results, but when I do get rejected, it doesn't hurt nearly as much, because I know I'll get more enquiries tomorrow. For some reason, when it comes to relationships, I still have a massive fear of rejection that stops me from approaching women. I just need to translate what I've done in business into my personal relationships and maybe that'll help.

@ibubezi7685

4 ай бұрын

"Abundance" - why don't Chat or Tyrone give a damn about a woman? Which then actually works in their favor! Also, don't approach women - stay on your grind, enjoy your life - maybe she will try to join you - if not: your money, your life, no strife.

@mdhazeldine

4 ай бұрын

@@ibubezi7685 The tricky thing is, women don't want to approach either, because they see that as the man's job. So if they don't approach and we don't approach, nobody approaches and we all lose! I think the key is probably not to stop approaching, but once we've done it, don't care so much about getting a no, and don't keep trying (flogging a dead horse).

@ibubezi7685

4 ай бұрын

@@mdhazeldine Ask married guys what they lost - and what they gained - and if they would do it again. I feel you don't lose if nobody approaches anyone (anymore) - "their loss" (not yours). And, it's better to be successful in sales than with women 😉

@mdhazeldine

4 ай бұрын

@@ibubezi7685 While that may work out for certain individuals, it will be terrible for society as a whole. It's not a sustainable answer to the problem.

@barry5138

3 ай бұрын

Excellent comment about take it or leave it attitude. Back yourself 👍🏿

Dr. Orion got that T pain auto tune on his voice🤣

@blackhawkgamingtv6553

4 ай бұрын

Thought we wouldn’t notice 😂

@riverat7558

3 ай бұрын

What is that? T-Pain auto voice.

Two of my VERY favorite people, this conversation is gold. Will bookmark it and relisten ❤

@rhenriksen

3 ай бұрын

"outcome independence" is liberation. Plus: do hard things. Voluntarily. Doesn't matter gym, or ice baths, or becoming a black belt, or whatever. Do the work, challenge yourself, forge yourself independently of a goal of anything but your own quality of life.

This was so good, I wish it went on for another hour!

"It's the steongest motivation in the world for a guy is to want to get laid. " In multiple decades-worth of life experience, it's the desire for a woman's love and attention--not the desire to have sex her--that's the strongest motivation. I think this claim that sex/the desire to get laid being the highest level of motivation for wanting women that's so common in the Manosphere is wrong. Yes, the desire to get laid is by far, one of we men's strongest desires. But, we desire the love, affection, and companionship fron women more than the sexual part.

@dinsel9691

4 ай бұрын

Tru say, as any man who has "paid for sex" only to feel violated afterwards

@brianmeen2158

4 ай бұрын

Interesting because in my case I don’t crave female companionship or affection - when I pursue women Im doing it for sex . Without the drive for sex I don’t think I’d pursue them at all

@riverat7558

4 ай бұрын

Most men are so terrified of being alone. Of people thinking they're alone.

THIS IS AMAZING THANK YOU

Great dynamics in this discussion. This is a perfect example of generational differences in understanding oneself and relationships with women. Baby Boomer men and older relied almost solely on instinctive masculinity and stoicism. Whereas the younger generation of men is more formally educated, overly thoughtful, and inundated with massive amounts of information causing them to overthink the simplest interactions with the female species.

shows like this are an interesting departure from the norm, because the aspect of "iron sharpening iron" puts a finer edge on the points being made. Keep up the good work, guys!

Great discussion, thank you.

Great collaboration guys love from Australia 🇦🇺

Great work brothers.

Great conversation!

This is such an interesting discussion, gave me a lot to think about.

Good video. Thank you, sir

Amazing video with endless value

The message I got was there are many paths to the end goal. All work if you apply yourself. It’s like a spiritual practice- many paths to enlightenment. 🙏

Great talk overall. But I'm so tired of every guy who says "why do I need to play these games to keep a relationship?" being written off as guys who don't want to do the work or just want to play videogames. That's not what we're saying. Hell, listen to your own stories in this very talk. Tell her you're sad, but don't tell her too much. She likes this guy this week, but this kind of guy that week. Don't do things for her, make her do things for you. THIS is what we're talking about. THESE are the games we're tired of playing. Men are tired of picking and choosing what they say and do because if they say or do a little too much or just not quite enough women flake out. It's not worth the effort when you can just invest in yourself and build the kind of life you want for yourself.

@EE12CSVT

4 ай бұрын

Agreed. I'm not a businessman, so I'm not rich, but as I'm in a branch of academia I'm very well-respected by my peers who are authors, academics, professors, and so on. In my field, and who I have to develop and maintain good professional relationships with at a high level, I command a lot of clout. Physically, I go to the gym and I've got a great physique for my age. I dress well, I'm well groomed, I carry myself with authority and presence (I have to, professionally), I speak with authority, again, because of my profession. All this gets noticed. But I don't tolerate women's games. I'm old enough to remember dating women and havi g affairs with them and I didn't have to jump through hoops and pass endless tests to keep them going. It indicates high narcissism if a woman is bringing games to the table.

@brianmeen2158

4 ай бұрын

@@EE12CSVT I understand and I’m 39 and I can’t remember the last woman that I dated that didn’t play any of these games. I see what my married friends go through and some break their back to keep their wife happy but it’s so short lived and the next day it starts over. I’m also in very good shape and can attract women fairly easily but the notion of a serious relationship just fills me with this feeling of almost dread. The entire dating game is just mind numbing to me at this point

@EE12CSVT

4 ай бұрын

@@brianmeen2158 The last time I met a woman who didn't play games was in 2007, and she was the only one in 24 years. I see the same thing as you do among married men - all bar three under the age of 60 I know have been crushed by their wives and turned into a shell of their former selves. I keep on hearing that they have to ask her permission to go out and enjoy their hobby, meet up with friends, buy something with money they earned, and so on. Like a boy asking permission from his mother. It's pathetic. I get plenty of attention - especially from married or taken women - but none know how to reciprocate. They think a relationshuo just means her sitting there looking pretty and being worshipped by her free servant.

@XSquidbeatsX

4 ай бұрын

Being addicted to videos games is a way to cope. So is alcohol. Playing a video game as a hobby isn’t bad in its self.

@brianmeen2158

4 ай бұрын

@@EE12CSVTahh yes I know what you mean especially with attractive women - they don’t expect to have to put any effort in .. I’ve even caught rather average looking women doing this and in all fairness - why would they expect to put in work when 9 out of 10(probably 99 out of 100) guys will crawl through fire to sleep with them? This is what has warped modern dating - most guys have very little if any standards and will put a lot of work in to get with any woman that shows him the least bit interest. Then you have the outright simps which I don’t even know what to say about them at this point. So yeah it’s a mess Looking back it hurts to say that I struggle to remember any truly interesting “back and forth” conversations I’ve had with women I was attracted to.. I’m sure there were a few blips of decent convo but I don’t remember them ..

Im watching this at 2:45 am and LAUGHED OUT LOUD at "Emotional Tampon” I'm dead!!! my poor neighbors🤣 authenticity is sexy AF need to buy this for my sons. Thanks for this.

OMG, this is pure gold and - for the first time after years spent on this damn YT: truth.

Amazing interview, good stuff

Great Interview..."More you Come into Yourself" section...DG wasn't getting it but I do...she likes you and wants to try to blow thru a boundry..the crazy comes out that defines her even more...nice job!

It was really great interview

@yourmom4398

2 ай бұрын

It’s a great idea 😄 👍

Very interesting conversation. Good podcast!

Recently read this book! Podcast is top 🎉🎉🎉

Great convo! Recently found robert and i couldnt agree more with him

@ShermanRae

3 ай бұрын

Would be a fun round table podcast between Sadia, Orion, and Dr. Glover.

Great guest 🔥

"choose a woman that chooses you" - awesome advice

Loved the whole video ❤

Excellent discussion. It was like watching Plato and Aristotle having a conversation.

Not into long podcasts but this really helped me look into the bigger picture

He's so full of you know what, but it is motivational

This is an excellent interview - so much truth and insight. Much better than the videos on how to get the woman - that only works for hook-ups but this interview shows us men how to get the RIGHT girl to build a long term relationship with. Ultimately that will leave us much more satisfied than jumping from one fling to another.

@stephanieherman2861

3 ай бұрын

It works for hookups? Where can i find these guides?

4:32 I’ve heard that verse also translated as “love your neighbor, who is flawed like yourself”. As in, apply the same moral standards towards both your neighbor and yourself: have compassion for sins of weakness; and with discernment, righteously rebuke sins of malice.

With all due respect, Dr G needs 2 return his advice 2 the 80's. Today is another world, I'm 67 & can assure you: Your advice & perspectives R better 4 this space @ this moment N time

Great content 🎉

Incredible ! ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ !

Great guest brother. Nice raspy voice today too

I heard of the book already, but my first time hearing this guy speak, he’s Johnny on the MFing spot!!🎯

Dr. Glover's book was a *huge* step in my RED PILL journey - this was in the ~2004 timeframe.. outstanding work, gentlemen !

@Claus1234

4 ай бұрын

Glover dosent teach any red pill bulls**t. That you have get it wrong

Fantastic episode! Nice guys finish last indeed.

Idk where it originated from, but a dating coach said this and it held a lot of truth to me. He said "don't become a better salesman, become a better product." Ofc there are things you can work on to clean up your selling strategy, but you will find guaranteed results if you start by becoming a better version of yourself!

I love Dr. Glover’s work. He’s made my life better. I found his book at a difficult and important time in my life and I’m grateful. That said he’s not 100% right on everything. 1) he clearly doesn’t understand what “red pill” really means. 2) “Be yourself” is awful advice, especially for young people. Who really knows what their “true self” really is at 20? You are a product of your genes and environment but you certainly can craft yourself into a better person and one more attractive to women. And you should! Be myself at age 20 would mean watching too much porn, eating junk food, not working out, binge drinking, and being clueless about life. That’s terrible. Fortunately I didn’t accept that as “love me as I am; love myself as I am”. Instead I realized that this person is not who I want to be. I can be a better person. I learned about the world, what women really want, how to be a better man. Then I changed.

@nyc-687

4 ай бұрын

Nowhere does Dr Glover says just be yourself and ends it there. He also states to work on yourself

@lordmithharn

4 ай бұрын

I agree. I think the state of being comfortable and authentic with yourself is something that takes a lot of time and experience, and that a 20-year old should instead focus on things he can do and good habits he can develop.

@stephanieherman2861

3 ай бұрын

It is funny, because Dr. Glover explains how young men start to believe they were not good enough and therefor hide their true personality. This is exactly what you are doing RIGHT NOW! Maybe in a decade or two you will understand him.

@griesemermd

3 ай бұрын

@@stephanieherman2861Nonsense. You don’t know me nearly enough to make such an assertion.

Indeed,love outside of self is "fool gold"! Pleezebelievit.

Thank you.

This podcast ended way too soon! I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of it. It was interesting to hear both your takes on how to level up as a man and attracting women. Edit: I'd love for you to also bring Mark Manson on.

Fabulous interview. Top quality listening.

One Love! Always forward, never ever backward!! ☀☀☀ 💚💛❤ 🙏🏿🙏🙏🏼

Read this book last year. 39 and ten years into this partnership, barely figuring this all out. Better late than never

Yes, self-love is the groove in the key

Slow deep breaths, it is good to consider things. Also my favorite bumper sticker is , "Don't believe every thing you think" so in this case, i understand the point , of you have to love yourself rather than seeking it with another okay. However, i had 6 years with my Vietnamese GF,, and she died of Cancer. I like myself quite a bit, i do a better job of checking my own bullshit at the door, than most as your recent video was about , How ever,, The Tam &gg show, was what the World is looking for, so i understand Dr Glover's rap including no one who is suppose to love me loved me the way i needed, or some paraphrase and well, Tam and i had it and we did not need to say it , nor make a big deal out of it, we could just go drive down the Ocean, or walk in the woods by Moss beach, or stay home , it was clearly the charmed time. I live now well better than most but , that was the Charmed time, just to say, some of your bullshit, is

Thank you gents.

Love that book

I love this

This man is EXCELLENT!!!

Wow, that hour flew by.

Thanks!