Dr Brubaker Muslims are NOT used to have their story book look in a critical way I can tell you as a former Muslim you are one of the first people doing this sort of thing without having a bounty on your head so to let you know you're going to get an aggressive comments from Muslims every once in while, cuz this is new to them and to everyone else too but you are doing a great job and your efforts are appreciated.

@user-zi6uv4kx6y

4 жыл бұрын

What do you think about 'no one can create something like Quran'?

@ELYESSS

4 жыл бұрын

What do you mean he's one of the first people? Islam has been criticized from it's early ages and masses are still criticizing it today. It's just that Muslims don't hear about it.

@gr8life12

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-zi6uv4kx6y the so-called "bring Surah like it" challenge was purposefully designed so it could never be met. Because first we have to ask on which criteria are we judging this challenge and who will be the jury. We can't really produce anything exactly like the Shakespeare sonnets for example cuz the would be copying but people have made something better than the Qur'an in my opinion. But if Muslims are asking something similar to the Quran in recitation style and linguistic vernacular the challenge is met by the authors of surah Faa ghaf and surah Korona! Also Muslims need to stop threatening and murdering everyone who tries to bring something like the Qur'an if really want people to take on the challenge !

@gr8life12

4 жыл бұрын

@@ELYESSS I don't remember saying Dr Brubaker Is the First Person to have ever done this! 🤔

@user-zi6uv4kx6y

4 жыл бұрын

@@gr8life12 there was the arabic poet named Al Mutanabbi. He also says that he is a prophet and his poem can hear even those who naturally cannot hear. There were some known (to me) arabic famous poets (who create their own styles) who laugh at the challenge of the Quran

A month and a half? Wow time flies so quickly these days. Well done and keep up the good work

I am a regular viewer from Kerala working in middle east, your videos are very interesting and informative, most of all very glad to know that you are part of God's own country (Kerala) God Bless you

@kordorkharmalki6496

4 жыл бұрын

I agreed with you

We are always looking forward to your presentations Dr. Daniel, GBY

Don’t call him Dr Brubaker but call him Dr Quranbreaker.

@CaseClosed

4 жыл бұрын

🤣

@ikanterinasi424

4 жыл бұрын

✍️ Dr quranbreaker 🤣🤣 i know that.

@ELYESSS

4 жыл бұрын

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

@tobaiseaton7807

4 жыл бұрын

,🤣🤣

It's impossible for the Koran to be perfectly preserved as over 70 reciters were killed at the Battle of Yamama

@englishhammer3854

4 жыл бұрын

@Nunya Dibness hope your trying to be funny

@englishhammer3854

4 жыл бұрын

@@buddy9888 I like researching old battles no matter where there happened in the world & I find there's a lot more information as it's not biased due to the fact it's only concern is history not some religious or ideological narrative

@englishhammer3854

4 жыл бұрын

@Irritating Comment all correct & validated by hadiths 👍

Good to know your Kerala connection. Love and greetings from Kerala. Thank you for your efforts in dealing with this topic purely on academic level.

The comment about you deleting other comments comes from KZread’s hyper sensitive algorithm which increasingly deletes comments. Some people think the channel owner is the one deleting them.

@henryworung6016

4 жыл бұрын

no he just wrote that so that everybody think DR. Brubaker is the one who deleted.

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

Oh - thanks for that information. I wondered about something like that. DB

@two_tier_gary_rumain

4 жыл бұрын

@@variantquran4505 You'll have to go into your Creator Studio and look at the Comments section. Some comments may be 'Held for review' or 'Likely spam'. You can check these and correct them if you wish but YT's filter also automatically deletes some comments.

@joshuasingh5159

4 жыл бұрын

Good to see you Sir.

@ELYESSS

4 жыл бұрын

@@variantquran4505 I think there are settings on the channel that make some comments that the algorithm decide are spam or toxic held for review by the channel owner. And they are only displayed after review.

I really enjoy the way you approach this subject. Religion is a subject where no one can be 100% free from some preconceptions, biases and emotional reactions. The best we can do is apply logic & reason as diligently as we can and strive to be as honest, balanced and fair as we can when examining the evidence. You do a fantastic job of this - well done!! I look forward to your videos!

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for this kind assessment. It is how I hope that my work will be received, so I am so glad you appreciate these efforts, Hassan. DB

I love this channel as it keeps academic!

Wow Dr. Dan .! Great to know your India connection . I’m using some of your material in my apologetic work . Couldn’t thank you enough 🙏🏻

I hope you make an Arabic translation of the book for the speaking Arabic people. And a big thanks for you from a Coptic in Egypt (me).

@user-es6ww3qj9r

4 жыл бұрын

Do Egyptian Christians have to do Quran in school ?

@dust001

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-es6ww3qj9r unfortunately christians in public schools in Egypt are required to memorize parts of the quran and hadiths.

@cruizito2388

4 жыл бұрын

And really horrible Islamic stories, too. Like there was this guy on Egyptian TV going mad about a school book telling students it was ok to EAT an apostate. Can you imagine???? The school books in Egypt are really messed up! For the teaching of Muhammad is messed up. Instead of being mad at their school books they should be mad about their prophet!!!

@williamjames4031

4 жыл бұрын

@@user-es6ww3qj9r Yes even in Sudan, we South Sudanese chrisrians were forced to learn huge chunks of the Quran because it is part of the literature of Arabic. It's almost impossible to learn Arabic without learning some passages in the Quran.

@markfahim3648

4 жыл бұрын

Well actually, here in Egypt, despite we are forced to memorise some parts in the Quran in schools, and the history books are really missed up in schools but we Christian (most of us) know the correct history, so it's not as bad as you think. But the problem here with our Muslim friends is that they don't accept the correct ideas about islam at all even though it's in their books, and now it's a discovery. Still they totally ignore these facts.

What? The Quran is not perfectly preserved? Damn!

@fiorini_mochachino

4 жыл бұрын

😂

@trailrunning11vlog

4 жыл бұрын

😁 surprise! Surprise!

@marsman1211

4 жыл бұрын

@kedibone techno not according your scholars!

@nadiaaamin7112

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂

@marsman1211

3 жыл бұрын

@borrowed tomb haha. I'll be stealing that one for sure!😂😂😂

with these variants made public, islamic scholars have started to change their narrative from perfect preservation to authenticity of their quran...moving the goal posts, eh?

@zakariaujang8492

4 жыл бұрын

@NYC125street yes...Malaysia or Indonesia have done well in these contests...broadcast live

@majeromajero7330

4 жыл бұрын

@NYC125street hafs quran version, i think.

I am an avid viewer of your videos and it has come at the right time because every Muslim I have met tells me that their book is so perfect and has no mistakes at all and you come along and provide evidence that it is not, for that I thank you. This throws a spanner in their works. Nice one 👍

@redlightspellsdanger7177

3 жыл бұрын

This plonker has been refuted, case closed

@harryb4364

3 жыл бұрын

@@redlightspellsdanger7177 by whom? Give me sources .

@redlightspellsdanger7177

3 жыл бұрын

@@harryb4364 kzread.info/dash/bejne/a56qu5KLg721oKQ.html

@redlightspellsdanger7177

3 жыл бұрын

@@harryb4364 kzread.info/dash/bejne/gn1t09GAnLW-o6w.html

THERE ARE HOLES IN THE MIRACLE THE ONE IN HEAVEN IS NOT THE SAME AS ON EARTH.

Thank you for you work in this field dr Brubaker. This is opening up a new world of conversations with our Muslim friends.

Your channel is a breath of fresh air, Dr. Brubaker. Thank you for all you do.

There are approximately 950 Qurans. Which one is preserved?

@two_tier_gary_rumain

4 жыл бұрын

The 999th one. :)

@BenEFTMeijer

4 жыл бұрын

Hafs (90%) Warsch 5 %???

@nadiaaamin7112

4 жыл бұрын

None ...!!

thank you for your precious work! greetings from Switzerland Dr. Brubaker God bless!

Thanks for all your work! I am so glad you come from an academic view and you present the facts regards the Quranic manuscripts to date. I believe 'Belief' should conform to reality provided reality is never distorted. We hear a lot from certain Islamic quarters about Quranic preservation now we are getting to hear what the manuscripts reveal about perfect preservation.

It's fascinating that some are keen to "debunk" Dr Brubaker's work when, as he rightly points out here, there's nothing to debunk. He's just stating facts. This isn't polemics.

@hargaisaowen7131

3 жыл бұрын

Lol...after your Bibles are exposed with the inaccuracies and corruption, you must feel excited about to push this agenda huh?

This need to be shared in all African continents and we are going to do that .. everyone and everyday ppl needs to hear 👂🏽 this . Dr keep it up and all you christian ✝️ all over the world make sure you pray for Dr and Dr Davied wood , Sam shumone .. we need to protect them tru prayer and every Christian ✝️ support to their channel financially as we need the truth of the Gospel our Lord Jesus Christ all over the world .. we love you Dr

06:25 with love from kerala 💐💐💐 😘💝

@tobaiseaton7807

4 жыл бұрын

ഹായ് lithin Good to see you here

@joseph29993

4 жыл бұрын

@@tobaiseaton7807 , me too bro 😊

@tomvarghese293

4 жыл бұрын

നിങ്ങള് നാട്ടിൽ എവിട

@joseph29993

4 жыл бұрын

@@tomvarghese293 alappuzha

@tomvarghese293

4 жыл бұрын

@@joseph29993 nianum aa jilla annu

This channel, unknowingly, is the nemesis of Islam.

Excellent work. Keep it up, and i hope the mob does not force this channel down.

Really appreciate you taking the time to present from an academic study your work on the variant qurans. Scholarly advice and findings are usually presented in book form which is often difficult to read. Thank you for your clarity and dare I say humbleness in offering your research to us in this way.

تحياتي لك دكتور بروبايكر كل المحبة اسأل الرب أن يحفظك ويباركك. اتمنى كتبك تصل للعالم العربي. سلام المسيح❤🤲

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

شكرا (: DB

God is using people connected to Kerala to lead people to TRUTH! I appreciate your purely scientific approach.

Thank you for maintaining easy communication with this channel, and thank you for letting us learn about the manuscripts' variants of the Quran.

﴿أَرَأَيتَ الَّذي يُكَذِّبُ بِالدّينِ﴾ [الماعون: ١] Have you seen the one who denies the Recompense? - Saheeh International ﴿فَذلِكَ الَّذي يَدُعُّ اليَتيمَ﴾ [الماعون: ٢] For that is the one who drives away the orphan - Saheeh International ﴿وَلا يَحُضُّ عَلى طَعامِ المِسكينِ﴾ [الماعون: ٣] And does not encourage the feeding of the poor. - Saheeh International ﴿فَوَيلٌ لِلمُصَلّينَ﴾ [الماعون: ٤] So woe to those who pray - Saheeh International ﴿الَّذينَ هُم عَن صَلاتِهِم ساهونَ﴾ [الماعون: ٥] [But] who are heedless of their prayer - - Saheeh International ﴿الَّذينَ هُم يُراءونَ﴾ [الماعون: ٦] Those who make show [of their deeds] - Saheeh International ﴿وَيَمنَعونَ الماعونَ﴾ [الماعون: ٧] And withhold [simple] assistance. - Saheeh International

When people mention 'debunking you' -- I could be wrong, but I get the sense (since there is a lot theologically at stake in the area of Qur'anic preservation) that your detractors are thinking you fabricated these manuscripts and variants, (that they are not authentic pieces of history) in order to debunk the legitimacy of the notion of the Qur'an's perfect preservation throughout time. But as you yourself said, these are academic, historical videos, and you do not seem to be concerned with making theological/spiritual truth claims, yea or nay.

@hargaisaowen7131

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe is time for him to leave KZread and actually have a scholarly debate on his research face to face? lol

Shalom Brother Daniel Thanks for your efforts to illuminate a layman.

I can help you with Arabic translation if you want to make Arabic subtitles for your videos.

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

Very nice. Please email me at admin@danielbrubaker.com. Thank you, DB

@TruthaboutIslam

4 жыл бұрын

@@variantquran4505 Be careful, they might intentionally mess up your subtitles into saying things you didn't say.

@worldchanger7197

4 жыл бұрын

@@variantquran4505 Kindly have a credible 3rd party to cross check the Arabic subtitles such as brother Alfadi. As much as you would like your work to be translated into other languages, do not take everything on the face value, especially Qur'an. Thank you for what you are doing Dr. Daniel.

@marcuslow1386

4 жыл бұрын

@kedibone techno you mean best deceiver!

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

Dear friends, I am aware of the need for good translations and of the possibility for mistranslation, either through accident or malice. I have no reason to automatically attribute a bad motive to anyone, but it is of course wise to check any translation to avoid miscommunication, particularly into Arabic. Dear Mohamed, thank you again for your offer (and please do contact me at the email address I mention if you wish to translate), and dear other friends who have advised quality checking, thank you as well for your concern and I will exercise due diligence. I take it all with gratitude. Best wishes, DB

Dr. Brubaker, have you thought about the suggestions that the Quranic material was originally in Aramaic and that is the reason why some things in the Quran make no sense in Arabic, but they do make sense in Aramaic.

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

There has been some considerable discussion in the past decade, mostly revolving around Christoph Luxenberg's (pseudonym) book, "The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Qurʾan." Yes, I have thought about it, and the wider linguistic questions. I am not a trained linguist, but there are people among our colleagues who are such (e.g. Ahmad Al-Jallad and Mark Durie). I do find the line of reasoning intriguing, and even compelling for some of its apparent explanatory power, though I think that ongoing rigorous treatment is called for. A single major shift in thinking on something raises a dozen other questions or problems that then need to be considered. Thanks for the question! DB

4 жыл бұрын

@@variantquran4505 Thank you for an answer, brother!

i think you should do a live-stream chat with Hatun Tash about she's discovered over 30 different arabic qurans. and why this is so. etc. many thanks. love your work.

Any good book recommendations on these topics? Watching you from Saudi Arabia ‎ شكرًا على مجهودك في الطرح العلمي النقدي♥️ You’re doing what most of us can’t learn or even talk about .... thanks for real

@bman5257

4 жыл бұрын

Very brave of you. It's unfortunate that where I am in the west we have become cowardly from all our wealth.

@user-xt8up2qi9b

4 жыл бұрын

BMan525 Brave ?? To learn about certain topics... I don’t really see it. Also, I don’t quite agree with the ”west” being cowardly for any reason it’s just a matter of does this thing interest me or not Unless you meant something else by it.

Thank you Dr Brubaker for your efforts...I'm too from kerala but now living in karnataka...

Can you do a video about the Birmingham manuscript?

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

Great idea. I think I will ask my friend Alba Fedeli if she would like to have a discussion about this on camera. She is the world expert on that manuscript. Best wishes, DB

@zainb535

4 жыл бұрын

@@variantquran4505 Great! I am looking forward to seeing that!

Dr. Brubaker, thank you for your time and effort in doing this and informing us - I imagine this is simply on your free time and away from your usual academic career. Also, I'm impressed by your collection of books! Would you be willing at all to share some of your recommended readings in a video some day?

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

Dear Leon, that is a great idea. Yes, I may do something like that at some point(s). Best wishes, DB

Thanks brother Dan, I am praying for the health of you and your family, also may God use you in his way.

Thanks for the hard work. Much appreciated!

Dr.Brubaker ! Following you from India ❤️

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

Great! DB

Thank you for your work. Can you provide some of the most plausible theories on what happened to the Uthmani mushaf?

God bless you. Amen Amen Amen

God Bless you ✝️

I'm a Mallu sir.... From Kerala❤

Excellent video. The history is fascinating. Great work.

If it is word fo mouth then what did the sheep eat

@femimathew105

4 жыл бұрын

That is the main question, I always ask

@Michael-xn6tv

4 жыл бұрын

The person reciting

@peterbrown404

4 жыл бұрын

​@@Michael-xn6tv weresheep :)

@peterbrown404

3 жыл бұрын

@borrowed tomb no the sheep loved turning it into sheep shit . so the wives feed it quietly to get the most of the beating and milking/tit sucking by adults of woman gone

Thank you and God bless you ✊❤️

You should make a “manuscript analysis for dummies” video defining all the terms and common Arabic words you use in your videos to help us be able to follow along better

Your unbiased view, purely academic, devoid of ulterior motive is commendable.

By God ! You learning Malayalam .! സ്വാഗതം ഡോക്ടർ ബ്രൂബാക്കർ!

it's good to know about your Kerala connection. Thanks for mentioning me 5:56.

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

Of course! DB

God Bless you

Dr dan can YOU also please do a Programa about the plagerys in the quran. From early scripture before the quran.

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

I think you are referring to the appearance of things in the Quran that some people feel reflect material of earlier works, including material from the Bible. There are different ways to deal with such things, and I am not opposed to touching on the subject, especially when it is relevant to some variant or correction. But, in a general sense, for now I really want to stick fairly close to my specific topic. So, will keep in mind. Thanks so much! DB

@thewordrevealsgod.7744

4 жыл бұрын

@@variantquran4505 yes that is what I mean thank you for answering GOD BLESS YOU.

Great video! Watching from Eastern-Europe. I hope you will do more Q & A's.

Good Job on improving your video discription/details. Good job having a more proper intro and keeping the intro quick. Good job getting to the points faster

It seems no matter how many variants there are in Quran manuscripts, Muslims will assume they are somehow canonical readings. They’re not. And the “canonical readings” was a later development, an afterthought, to avoid the natural conclusion that the Quran was corrupted. “Oh no! We have so many differences between all our Qurans! What do we do!?” “Let’s just say they’re all original. They all go back to Muhammad. All seven of them. I mean ten. I mean fourteen. I mean thirty. I mean...Allahu Akbar the Quran is perfectly preserved!”

Thank you for your works, Just saw Dr. Shabir Ali's respond to your book, he explained that the writer has made mistakes , forgot things and have to erase it.

Do you know the story behind the 1924 Egypitan Quran? Can you tell us about it?

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I know some of it. It would be a fantastic topic for an upcoming video. Thanks for the suggestion! DB

Would love to see you present your findings to the University Al Azhar . And upload to KZread.

If the Quran was preserved orally from the beginning, then what did Uthman burn?

@worldchanger7197

4 жыл бұрын

Or why did he urged Ubai to jot down the Qur'an? he should have wrote it himself and distributed it.

i'm your new subscriber. keep up the good work. tbh, you such an honest man. my pleasure to learn more from you

Dear Dr. Brubaker, very informative video. I would like to know if there is any other person that has the same qualification as yours that also study about this variant of Quran and share the same thoughts like yours or even object to your thoughts? And you said you will make a book about this and in several language. Please don’t forget to have it in Indonesian language.

The variances you pointed out in the ancient Quranic manuscript, were they (errors) scribal mistakes or were they the believe and acceptable text of their time? The differences in words or lines as you pointed out, did they appear exactly in the same places in all the different manuscripts?

Excellent video, thank you for all your hard work.

For those that need it, in KZread subtitles can be accessed by clicking the "Settings" and selecting "Subtitles/CC" option.

Can you make a video about manuscripts that could have theological implications if you know of any of those?

Way to go sir. God bless u

Dr. Brubaker, May Jesus Christ bless you for exposing this demonic book and religion.

Thank you Dr Brubaker for sharing your hard work with your audienceThese variants proves the inconsistency in these manuscripts and fragments etc.it exhitbit the Quran is not the inspiration preservation authoritative word of Allah.The memorization and recitation is not always reliable.Thank you fruit for knowledge.

Hi Dr Brubaker, like your work and videos. Could you please unpack the concepts of Qira´at and Ahruf with text examples.

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, Jan, we will talk about this sometime. Thanks, DB

@samspade225

4 жыл бұрын

@@variantquran4505 Thank you. Soon, I hope.

Bro you are learning Malayalam I think that would much harder than the work you are doing. Love and respects from Kerala 😍

@variantquran4505

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Our family is in Kottayam (Manarcad) and Kumbanad. Have to learn at least a little... DB

Manuscripts can written by anyone so its not better testiment than mass memorization. Thanks to your work.We need people like to keep our scholers busy and i like you better than other DCCI like people who just make up stuffs most of our scholers feel it beneath them to refute them. As long as you do in good faith its fine. Assalamualikum.

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Thank God and thank you for the good job you're doing

i feel all these debates about Quran preservation will be silenced if the idea of perfect preservation is abadoned. Change is not always corruption, it is progress.

Hello and thank you for your work. I'm here as a new subscriber from David Wood's channel.

Is there a possibility to know the oldest manuscripts of commentators on the Quran, and to what century dose it belong exactly? of course i mean the oldest commentators. This issue is very important, as through even the copies currently available, it seems clear that Islam, which was present, is completely different from it now.

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

It is not my area, but some of my colleagues have looked at some of the earliest manuscripts of some of the hadith collections and I am always interested to hear about such things. Your question may be specifically about the tafsir works, of which there are many. Some of the early ones are Tafsīr Mujāhid and Tafsīr Muqātil b. Sulaymān. As to the earliest manuscripts, I don't remember specifics of my conversations but my very general impression is that the earliest complete manuscript of Sahih Bukhārī is something like 12th or 13th cent. I could probably Google it, but this is just my memory from conversations with colleagues. There are really so many different works, and each one has, probably, a different story when it comes to the manuscript attestation. Good question, thanks. DB

@ASHORSHEMAYA

4 жыл бұрын

@@variantquran4505 Thank you, the problem is somewhat manifold for me, because most of these people are not Arabs and did not speak Arabic but rather that the Arabic language itself hasn't been existed yet Note . An Arabic name is derived from a Syriac word meaning Westerners, so the people who lived to the west from them were called "Sarsine", and it is also a Syriac word meaning the people of the eastern regions (until now we are not talking about a human race called an Arab)

@ASHORSHEMAYA

4 жыл бұрын

@Koli Zabeen Jay Smith is one of my best Heroes, and thank you for mentioning his channel name

if the quran is perfectly preserved and it had 7 qirats and now there is only 1 then it is not perfectly preserved

Directed here by Dr David Wood. Awesome. Subscribed.

Hi Dr Brubaker, To create a subtitle, you can use several softwares, I use gosubtitle, (but there are others). You first run the automatic recognition, then correct, add, etc manually.

Regarding the deleted comments - many believe this is a KZread algorithm issue! Comments randomly deleted on different channels. Any thoughts or experiences please leave a reply.

@killermoon635

4 жыл бұрын

Thats true. Few times my comments don't appear. But if you keep posting same comment more than one time it might appear. When you post comment, refresh the page with your browser and then check if your comments did not get removed. If it is removed, then post again and keep trying.

Very factual. Thank you for this video. More power

Great to see more of this!

Excellent work. you are opening the eyes of the world that did not see these facts before.. Great research work Dr. Great old myths are being busted..

If the Qira'at variants already yeild quite significant word differences and not just dialectic differences, how significant are the rasm/skeletal text variants? And dles the variant rasms potentially multiply when overlaid with variant Qira'at? Of course as with languages sentence construction and context are also determinants to its meaning - how significant are your variant rasms on the particular sentences where they occur?

The early date of the Birmingham folio and the testimony that the writer may have seen Muhamad means Oral is not the main means of transmission

Can you react to Liz Edward regarding conversation between Jesus & Allah.tq.

Excellent work Dr Brubaker, and a long time coming. Could we also have your first book and subsequent books translated into Malay/Indonesian?

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

I would love to have that done, but do not now where to find a good translator. If you (or others seeing this) have a suggestion, please let me know. Best wishes, DB

Nice work Dr Daniel

You’re such a treasure, good job dr.

God bless

Did you see Mansur explain to you the Arabic language?

Acts17Apologetics sent me here. Sub’ed. Looking forward to learning from you.

@Dr Dan Brubaker Very glad to hear you answer some questions. Was really veryvinterested in the Sanaa manuscript & was wondering if you have done any work in that text? 1) Of particular interest to me is the lower text on the manuscript. From what I have understood, they have only worked on lower texts on 36 folios. Is that all that they can retrieve from all the fragments that are in possession or do they have more to work on going forward? 2) Also am i right in suggesting that the lower text of the sanaa manuscript is perhaps the oldest text of the quran we have in possession?

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

You are talking about the Sanaa Palimpsest. You are right that the lower text of the palimpsests (there are also some folia in Birmingham, studied by Alba Fedeli) might be among the earliest written Quran texts that have reached us. As to your question #1, I would defer to those who have worked on these folia for a full and up-to-date discussion of the current state of research. It would be good to do a series of videos on that. Perhaps I could interview Asma Hilali or some of the others. Thanks for the questions. DB

@darrobinson9830

4 жыл бұрын

@Variant Quran Thank you so very kindly for your response Dr Brubaker. Yes indeed, such an interaction between academics on this subject would be very educational. As a lay person, there has been very little access to developments in this regard. Getting to the point though, I do remember reading that there were around 20 potato sacks worth of msnuscripts when they bagged them in 1972 (before Dr Gerd Puin got working on them). Fast forward 48 yrs into the present day with Dr Puins wife and Dr Hilali have now worked on tgis subject. Yet I find myself asking why so long and what ever happened to the 20 potato sacks of bags of manuscript material they initially found. Indeed, a more detailed video on this subject would shed a whole of light on this matter. I thank you very kindly once again for your earlier reply.

@variantquran4505

4 жыл бұрын

@@darrobinson9830 In fact, I sat down with Dr. Puin and did an on-camera interview with him at my home when he visited here last November. Unfortunately, the audio is not great. But we spoke about these things and his experience in Sanaa back in the early 70s. I may post it at some time on this channel. DB

One of the curiosity of the current day Qur'an is the number of Huf's Qur'ans there are = 7. Since this is the one that has been deemed to be the best by Cairo in 1924, Egypt in 1934(?) and then in 1985 by King Faud of Saudi Arabia. Which one out of the 7 was chosen? Noting that one of the means scholars have is assessment of the writing style of the author allowing evaluation of the style scholars can see if it was a single author or multiple even the gender of the writer. is there such a evaluation of those 7?

Hello Dr. Brubaker. I'm not sure if it was just my viewing, but your video appeared to have a problem at 2:18 where it jumped forwards, then back again. If it isn't just me, it appears there are some compilation errors when putting the video together. So it jumps here and there.

I’ve got your book and it was a fascinating read. But people seems to believe that these 20 examples is enough to disprove the overall preservation of the Qur’an? It clearly shows corrections and as you mentioned in the book it is of different reasons but for people to claim it disproves the total package seems a little bit over exaggerate. But it’s fun discussing these topics. I’ve got one so called “debunk” as they called it: ‎”In Example 2, in Surah 42:21 of Arabe 328a (7th century), he states that "له" was corrected to "لهم" by a later scribe. However, "لهم" is present in similarly dated manuscripts such as Is. 1615 I and Or. 2165 (shown below), thus showing it was most likely accidental.”

@variantquran4505

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Great question/comment. You probably noticed that in my book I never spoke of disproving the preservation of the Quran. Other people may project such a purpose onto the work, but a scholar does not set out with a pre-determined outcome or conclusion, but rather to test a hypothesis by asking questions in the context of good research design. So, no, I am not trying to disprove preservation, or to prove it. I am seeing considering what the corrections and variants tell us. Secondly, my little book was not a scholarly argument but rather an introduction to the existence of corrections with some examples. So, again, anyone who might think that these 20 were intended to somehow constitute a robust and coherent scholarly argument will have completely misread my explicit and implicit purpose in that book. Indeed, it is one of the mistakes made by Sidky in his review. Now, to the thing about Example 2: Whoever wrote that sentence is engaged in slightly flawed logic. It is indeed possible that the initial writing was accidental, perhaps likely. But "most likely" (if we are considering only the fact that two other manuscripts of similar time show the other form) is a little lazy, in my opinion. DB

@Sixtra

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Variant Quran Thank you for taking your time answer my questions. And it’s as I suspected with case of the book. Even though it seems to have turned out to get a life of its own. I just had to use an example by curiosity, since mentioning your book gets some attention on social media depending who’s “asking”. And I’m no academic nor expert on this subject, just enjoying the historical aspect. //Best regards