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@user936

3 жыл бұрын

You can find the Douglas' musical rendition here kzread.info/dash/bejne/mW1-xM2aeNy8YM4.html 🙂

@AnomisMiss

3 жыл бұрын

There’s also a natural discrimination against women. We have to menstruate once a month. We have to give birth and breastfeed to have children. We usually have more caring attributes and less narcissistic ones which hinder our chances of “success” in the workplace, as well as less desire to do so because we get less out of it. We have a time bomb, can’t have children late because it’ll be worse for us/the child or impossible or even because men won’t accept us after a certain - incredibly young - age. We are also doomed to be unsatisfied with our partner since women are attracted to 20% of men, despite men being attracted to 80% of women. And perhaps most importantly, we’re not allowed it all: whereas men can have careers and family easily, we’re not attracted to househusbands so we have to choose and either choice will leave us feeling like we missed out. So how about we try to address these issues for a second before bitching that men have to meet “impossible” standards. Both sexes have to meet the standards of the other, and women do that better than men despite it being equally as hard - if not more - so for the love of God stop trying to teach men they’re such victims: you’re just making the situation worse for everybody.

@joshuahuman8442

3 жыл бұрын

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@shawnaweesner3759

3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t find the humor in Murray’s comment that there are degrees between chastity and rape.

@Anton-sz3sr

3 жыл бұрын

I mean it's the same at strip clubs when you get a lap dance, I don't know if the Anaconda video fits well into the argument. You may be reading more deeply in to what, but Nicki Minaj's fan base would likely perceive as strip club etiquette.

"Women are allowed to be as sexual as they want, as sexy as they want, but must not be sexualised." - Douglas Murray

@jackgillies5638

3 жыл бұрын

Who says they must not be sexualised? I'm pretty sure that women (and men) have no problem with being sexualised - they just don't want to be sexualised all the time and at the expense of all of the other aspects that makes them into a human being. It really is a simple as that. I respect Murray on most topics, but he does have a tendency to over simplify issues to fit a narrative.

@evanpenny348

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck with that one.

@jackgillies5638

3 жыл бұрын

@@evanpenny348 I have had thanks - People just want to be treated like human beings - Human beings are sexual. Men and women like having sex... just not all the time. Understanding this fundamental.

@MrSpiritchild

3 жыл бұрын

@@jackgillies5638 So, what should we default to, always sexualising or never? If it's true as you say that sometimes people want to be sexualised, how are we supposed to know, are they supposed to hold up a sign that reads, "I'm feeling risque today"? On the other hand, for thousands of years it wasn't that complicated, if a woman presented herself sexy, she was letting the men in her life know. Now, if she isn't feeling it, and we no longer have anyway of knowing, we run the risk of getting our eyes gouged out just for a sidelong glance at some of her nicer curves, so it would seem to me a certain level of simplification is in order. Maybe it would just be better if we let people be who they are and get over ourselves.

@ericsonofjohn9384

3 жыл бұрын

Jack Gillies the media and women say they must not be sexualised. Looking at women, approaching women and asking for numbers, cat-calling, even smiling at women are now things that fall under “toxic masculinity”, and they’re all things that the left and radical feminists slate men for. On the other hand, you have people like Niki Minaj and Cardi B and pretty much any female actress, singer or model, who DEMAND sexualisation of themselves.

"There is a gradation between chastity and rape" It physically pains me that such a sentence NEEDS to be said.

@Assassin5671000

4 жыл бұрын

All of these problems are from lack of thinking about how can it affect themselves or the other party in the play or it's a power struggle who knows at this point

@KeiosKod

4 жыл бұрын

The point is that it’s not just one or the other, Tiger. He’s arguing against the extreme of “Oh, you don’t agree with this, which means you’re all for this other thing.”

@makzpook6855

4 жыл бұрын

@Tiger Tamer That's not true though, is it? There are varying levels of consent. Is consent given while drunk consent? Is consent given under pressure to be considered consent? Louis CK asked for consent before he started masturbating in front of fellow female comedians. When consent was denied, he didn't do it. Yet, he was still branded as a social pariah - and perhaps rightly so, since he used his fame as leverage against those women, unknowingly. What I'm trying to say is, consent isn't binary. We have no clue what the rules are, and people are gonna make stupid mistakes until we figure them out.

@makzpook6855

4 жыл бұрын

@Tiger Tamer Let's put Louis CK aside then. You haven't addressed my other points. Consent while the woman is drunk is not admissible in court, as far as I know. Even if there *was* actual consent, if the woman was too drunk to remember it in the morning, it isn't considered consent. I've read a story of a woman whom her date drove her to the woods and pressured him for sex. She said no a couple of times but eventually conceited, due to the pressure of being stranded in the middle of nowhere with a stranger. CONSENT WAS GIVEN, but she felt horrible about the whole situation. I have given you two examples of 'weak' consent. Not all consent is born equal, and when hearing a yes the context is often as important as the word itself.

@makzpook6855

4 жыл бұрын

@Tiger Tamer If consent is so binary, then why all the rules surrounding it? Saying yes to something, is by definition of the word, giving consent. If it is as binary as you claim it is, then consent was given in the second story, therefore it isn't rape. It isn't as clear as you claim it is. If yes is always yes, then how come we have all these rules about sexual harassment in the workplace? If it is as easy as two adults agreeing to have sex, what should ones power position over the other party matter? If consent is binary, then why is "I agree to this happening" only viable in certain scenarios? If consent was truly binary, as you claim it is, then yes would always mean yes and no would always mean no. Therefore, the second story I described isn't rape by definition - the woman gave verbal agreement to the act, constituting consent. You cannot hold unto the claim that consent is binary and claim the second story was rape.

And we all know Nicki Minaj has never used her physical assets to advance her career. It's pure talent. Obviously.

@reasonablespeculation3893

4 жыл бұрын

From a Feminist perspective she is vulnerable, and is being manipulated. So sometime in the future, when her Sexual "assets" have been reduced in value.. Expect her to level Rape accusations at the men who promoted her career.

@mesolithicman164

4 жыл бұрын

Reasonable Speculation That's the deal with women who use glamour as part of their sales strategy. They make money while they have something that men want to see. If they waste the money on drugs, fast cars etc they end up like Pamela Anderson, 52 and broke. No sympathy, sorry. If her brain was a quarter the size of one of her tits, she'd be minted.

@reasonablespeculation3893

4 жыл бұрын

Ms Anderson did pretty well.. don't think her $million$ will ever run out... Will there be accusations in coming decades? Never Know

@mesolithicman164

4 жыл бұрын

Reasonable Speculation Anderson's already broke. She 'conned' a Hollywood producer to marry her to pay off $200k debts she had. Her fortune has gone.

@reasonablespeculation3893

4 жыл бұрын

@Wu Beach Boy "Who- would give -female celebrities the idea" ?? Surely you understand the nature of Women... Any attractive Women finds out early in life, the influence she wields with her sexuality. Could be NO Other Way,,, Humanity's evolutionary history has made it so. She is admired(though grudgingly) by other women, and powerfully desired by men. Women are thinking agents, and those who choose Show Business (especially Dancers) understand the visual component of their craft.. There are Men who can expertly adjust the prurience of an act , to push existing social limits between amusement and pornography.. In the age of video(high tech editing) and mass entertainment, ,,, sexual imagery, and the psychological manipulation that goes with it , can be finely tuned. As a result the Female derives celebrity status and wealth... A Female performer will bask in the recognition, admiration, and bounty until she is replaced with a younger version of herself. She will life a glorious life. If she cannot adjust after her prime desirability has passed,,,,, current cultural and Legal standards give her the option to blame and accuse Men.

Brett Weinstein said it better: “My experience is so important that you must understand me. And my experience is so impactful you can never understand me.”

@Andrew.Dufresne

4 жыл бұрын

it just a long winded way for women to say: "Don't question me - just do as I say."

@daano465

4 жыл бұрын

Isnt it more like, you must apprehent but will never comprehent

@jeffreyblouin1718

4 жыл бұрын

There's been a time where that line of thought ("you must understand me but you never will") would have been apprehended with romantic interests in mind. After all, it is feminine in essence to play the hard-to-get game. And men are driven by their very instincts to overcome this tactic with persistent, diligent, chivalrous behaviour. The problem now is that degenerate activists of the like of feminists bring this way of thinking onto political grounds. It creates a loop of self-asserting victimization. It's not so much of a tease anymore if you have to take it so seriously. It's giving not only an obviously crushing disadvantage to men, but also legitimizing all claims of women privilege here in the western world. Most men are moral slaves to most women because of the possibility they envision getting laid with them.

@cooldepot4378

3 жыл бұрын

@@Andrew.Dufresne *a manipulative dishonest way

@bacchaed2430

3 жыл бұрын

It's more like read my mind! And I may change it, any moment, keep up!😳 Now catch up. It's garbage that's been sold to both sexes and has done us no good at all.

You know it's true when a gay guy has to point it out.

@michadewandeler4028

4 жыл бұрын

that's a very serious reason to believe a thing like this lol

@Angenga

4 жыл бұрын

That makes no sense

@verdanthyborian2322

4 жыл бұрын

@@Angenga yes it does. It means people who don't deal with women at all can even see it.

@owenbunny4023

4 жыл бұрын

@Timothy lezbian are just women who failed to score a hot chad

@chilael6892

4 жыл бұрын

Wow... He doesn't sounds gay

Douglas is a gem. One of the few people that is both brave and sane.

I do remember a lady at work complaining to me about an older guy at work staring at her chest whilst she was wearing a ultra low cut top with them nearly popping out. I witnessed this interaction and the poor older married 30 years guy didn't know where to look and did nothing of the sort - I saw him try to look anywhere except at her. Of course she didn't complain about the younger good looking guys staring at them.

@sophiestaskowski758

4 жыл бұрын

brindlebot exactly! Wearing a low cut top that you selected and chose to wear that day was done with the purpose of revealing a secondary sexual organ to indeed show sexuality and sexual signaling. Hence the reason many workplaces have guidelines on attire. To then complain about people looking, seems like indirect attention seeking to alert people to the fact that other people find you desirable

@selderane

4 жыл бұрын

The data bares this out too. A lot of sexual attention is only found offensive if the person giving it is undesirable.

@ericdaniel323

4 жыл бұрын

Look up the SNL sketch on workplace sexual harassment with Tom Brady. That was 15 years ago. Edit: only 8 years ago

@jermaineayivoh8263

4 жыл бұрын

Sophie Staskowski You’ve hit the nail on the head. It is shameless “humble” bragging it. It is extremely transparent and quite pathetic.

@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293

4 жыл бұрын

This reminds me of the Jim Goad tweet-- paraphrased-- 'has there ever been a woman in all of history who's claimed sexual harassment by a man she finds attractive?' LOL

Laughed hard at the chastity or rape part, Douglas Murray is a national treasure, one of the greatest political commentators in the UK, for sure.

@shanecle

4 жыл бұрын

@Tiger Tamer What is truly a national shame is the grooming gang scandal. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal Murray talked about this 7 years ago, the media and police covered it up.

@nomore5668

4 жыл бұрын

@Tiger Tamer Except he isn't, not even remotely.

if a man looks at a woman and she finds him attractive it's called flirting , if she doesn't like him it's called sexual harassment , and the man has to guess what she is thinking , because it he gets it wrong he could loose his job or kicked out of college .

@Jide-bq9yf

4 жыл бұрын

peter cullen you’ll know if she finds you attractive . She’ll find a way of letting you catch on . If you don’t get the mostly subliminal signals, but press on regardless , you’re just bothering her . Expect her to let you know that too . Be nice to women, but try your best not to obsess over them . Trust me , they will come .

@Jide-bq9yf

4 жыл бұрын

Crom , sound advice you’re obviously a capo ( in a good sense ).

@VidkunQL

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jide-bq9yf Peter: Hey, I saw that signal you gave me, and I like you too! Let's go to the beach! Susan: I didn't give you a signal. Stand where you are, I'm calling security. Peter: But-! But you gave me signals! Smiling, looking back over your shoulder at me, playing with your hair, blushing, touching my arm, paying me compliments-- twenty-one signals in all. Look, I kept a log... Susan: Oh, you're going to jail. See? Subtle signals are *deniable,* that's the whole point of them. Women don't give overt signals, because that would expose them to the danger of overt rejection.

@Jide-bq9yf

4 жыл бұрын

VidkunQL lolz Peter has a great big hat on his head emblazoned with the words ; “ Lonely and desperate “ and so will be assumed highly likely of persistence for those very reasons . It all boils down to being very comfortable with women and them with you , pretty much glove-like . The dissonant scenario you’ve so eloquently articulated , is all part of the learning curve , when a young man is still forcing it . Give them the benefit of doubt , work on your aura and simply be nice to them . They’ll arrive when you’re least looking . Trust me . Don’t listen to Murray on women either . He’ll only know what we’ve had the time and patience to tell him . 😊

@Jide-bq9yf

4 жыл бұрын

qxANGELxp tester isn’t enough to make us natural leaders either . Not properly harnessed by mental refinement and self discipline , youre likely to end up where men are the overwhelming majority ; jail , or AA .

"Be handsome" "Be attractive" "Don't be unattractive" Great advice for men from SNL skit

@mosespray4510

3 жыл бұрын

That skit was fantastic. My wife and I refer to it all the time.

@adio8824

3 жыл бұрын

What snl skit?

@doktormabuse4794

3 жыл бұрын

@@adio8824 With Tom Brady and Frank Armisen.

I don’t consent to being emotionally manipulated.

@skeliton1505

4 жыл бұрын

Then don’t

@thothheartmaat2833

4 жыл бұрын

This opinion is a hate crime..

@saulgoodman7858

4 жыл бұрын

@Be The Change You Want same. When I first recognized I was shocked. I always put distance between myself and those people now.

@marteung

4 жыл бұрын

@thefluffyduck 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@beardham

3 жыл бұрын

Then discipline yourself not to feel envious you weak dweeb. People can own 200k dollar sports cars and flaunt them, you can train yourself not to envy them; women can do what they want within legal boundaries too. It's not the end of the world just because you don't have control over every little thing.

Like every man, I’ve known this for years. But Douglas is the FIRST I’ve seen who actually has the guts to SAY it in public.

@flourishomotola5306

2 жыл бұрын

And he can actually say it because he's gay.

@FarhanAmin1994

2 жыл бұрын

And he probably could say it without people clamouring to cancel him because 'at least he's not a cis het male'. Lovely, the new hierarchy we’ve built around assessing the social acceptability of commentary.

@FarhanAmin1994

2 жыл бұрын

Nevertheless glad to hear from Murray, as always. A rare voice of reason today.

"wiggling their butts, wiggling their own butts, hitting each others butts"

@thegeth4293

3 жыл бұрын

Singing about each others butts and their own butts

The whole ‘sexualization’ argument might be one of the most ludacris lines of thought of modern feminism (and they have many). WE as women can sexualize ourselves as much as we want, (and mind you, it IS for the sake of men watching, it is SEX after all), but men (or unattractive men, really) are not allowed to find it sexual. It’s utter nonsense. And I fear it will create this awful culture of men being afraid of women, which means, there won’t really be men anymore. I’m sorry, men. You all deserve better tjan this bullshit.

@daybuttons7541

4 жыл бұрын

She dresses up to attract a potential partner. It's an insult if an ugly guy thinks he has a shot with an attractive woman

@hewlett6792

4 жыл бұрын

Couldn't have put it better

@unlimited971

4 жыл бұрын

not afraid. just highly disgusted by the constant bs.

@paulkofa3238

4 жыл бұрын

day buttons ugly is subjective I know women who thinks Leo is ugly me personally don’t find Jessica Alba cute at all

@MNAHN-T.GOF-NN

4 жыл бұрын

@@unlimited971 Some are disgusted, some are afraid, others simply don't know how to respond and proceed to ignore women completely. Either way, the end result is the same.

Anything with Douglas Murray on is very worthwhile👍 thanks😁

@robgoodsight6216

4 жыл бұрын

yepp I agree!!!

@CoolGirl-di2rs

4 жыл бұрын

Barney Rubble Just no. Nasty degenerate.

The fact of the matter is a woman can now play any role she wants. Live at home while a guy pays for everything... she's traditional. Wants to feel like a grown up and make her own money... she's a modern woman. Live off the government... she's independent. As soon as she pops out a child she's automatically assumed a good mother, and if she's a single mother... she's a hero. Becomes an alcoholic bar star... she's just fun and loud. Goes home with a different guy each week, it's not like we can slut shame anymore. And no matter her shape and size... she's nothing less than beautiful. The world is theirs and they no longer have any obligations. Men still only have one acceptable life to live and that is to please women and fill what ever role she feels she deserves. If a man calls them out or wants to take a different path in life... "toxic masculinity!". As men are individually opting out of a life based on women's wants and needs, women are doubling down by pushing a system that makes men do it as a whole. And they have the authorities, courts and government in their corner while the media acts as their cheerleaders. All they want is equality my ass.

@ThievNWalrus

4 жыл бұрын

Great post. Couldn't agree more.

@armandotorres6879

4 жыл бұрын

Sad but true

@joaovaranda4759

4 жыл бұрын

Well said

@Mad_Intalect

4 жыл бұрын

Bruh!!

@dream-67

4 жыл бұрын

Oh yes, all women are said to be beautiful nowadays and yet even the most handsome of men are not feted as such - it's madness!

I almost married a female men's rights activist once. She spoke at conferences for men and everything. In the end, she left me because I didn't buy her a nice enough engagement ring. There was a real life lesson there. Something to do with a fox and a scorpion...

@duskonanyavarld1786

4 жыл бұрын

Don't you mean the frog and the scorpion?

@edwardk3

4 жыл бұрын

@@duskonanyavarld1786 no. Fox. kzread.info/dash/bejne/q6loltx6k9TUiMo.html

@duskonanyavarld1786

4 жыл бұрын

@@edwardk3 But I have always heard it was a frog, do you think it is because of the telephone game? kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3xozdCvj67ZgM4.html

@edwardk3

4 жыл бұрын

@@duskonanyavarld1786 Maybe it's both because the scorpion is such a douche that she fucks everyone over.

@RedEyeification

4 жыл бұрын

The scorpio is an honest being.

Bravo Douglas, as a woman I thoroughly agree with your assessment that it's impossible for women to being highly sexualized without men sexualizing them. For heaven's sake, have we thrown out reason entirely? And, to automatically assume that holding this view means that we're saying men can treat women any way they'd like is complete lunacy!

@weyits10

4 жыл бұрын

Ann Power Women sexualise themselves for personal power and control, as Douglas exemplified in his Nikki Minaj example. You see it regularly, but clearly not as overtly.

@rwatertree

4 жыл бұрын

Isn't that what sex positive feminists said decades ago? They celebrated the power women gained from their sexuality. Now we're dealing with what it means for that power to be fully realised. Sex used to be intercourse, now it's entrapment.

@sandlotscout6358

4 жыл бұрын

Stop blaming men for your shitty behavior. God damn you bitches will never learn.

@alQarafi

4 жыл бұрын

Mister Biggs I think men and women can treat each other better. There are unfair expectations of men and women and it often depends on specific circumstances. I don’t like the war between the sexes narrative.

@Assassin5671000

4 жыл бұрын

@@alQarafi agree with you but some of those expectations are based on instinct evolutionary hardwiring. You can't expect a man to want unattractive woman and you can't expect a woman to want a bum homeless guy

We live in a very strange time in the UK, largely created by the effects of the selfishness and fevered fantasies of left wing middle-class women in universities. I heard a Radio 4 drama the other day where the main character talks about having had hundreds of men, like they were just bottles of wine, and it treat her selfish life as if it was meaningful and normal.

@cindystarlight4107

3 жыл бұрын

I try to challenge you a little bit. I find this talk extremely intriguing. But I also started to wonder if these clearly unhappy women like Nicki Minaj would still play these disgusting games if society wouldn't prove that this is the best and easiest way for her to become popular and have a lot of money? Why we deny the fact that video clips with full of erotica are watched by brainless millions while videos about for example economics are hardly ever. Which one would be more important? These types of women probably were bullied (just listen to her hate when she says the world 'skinny women'...), they weren't loved. This is just a compensation for them. Do you truly believe that they are happier with twerking rather than keeping their sexuality to their true love (behind the walls like everyone should do and not search for porn and disgusting video clips) and being loved? Is it better for them to be picked up by macho men for a night and then being dropped? No, they just try to compensate and because unfortunately the world is ready to 'buy' her product, she is rewarded in her acts. WE should change and not reward them. It is quite sad that they try to find their happiness in short-term gratification. Sad that men watch and want to f..k women who behave like this. We should look at both sides of the coin and change these our stupid conditioning to immediate and easy reward.

EVERTHING IS ABOUT SEX. EXCEPT SEX. SEX IS ABOUT POWER.

@YZFMANIAC08

4 жыл бұрын

philip Trevor not many, make that NONE

@DuaneJasper

3 жыл бұрын

That's Satre right? Or was it Foucault..

@cooldepot4378

3 жыл бұрын

for women that is

@cindystarlight4107

3 жыл бұрын

I try to challenge you a little bit. I find this talk extremely intriguing. But I also started to wonder if these clearly unhappy women like Nicki Minaj would still play these disgusting games if society wouldn't prove that this is the best and easiest way for her to become popular and have a lot of money? Why we deny the fact that video clips with full of erotica are watched by brainless millions while videos about for example economics are hardly ever. Which one would be more important? These types of women probably were bullied (just listen to her hate when she says the world 'skinny women'...), they weren't loved. This is just a compensation for them. Do you truly believe that they are happier with twerking rather than keeping their sexuality to their true love (behind the walls like everyone should do and not search for porn and disgusting video clips) and being loved? Is it better for them to be picked up by macho men for a night and then being dropped? No, they just try to compensate and because unfortunately the world is ready to 'buy' her product, she is rewarded in her acts. WE should change and not reward them. It is quite sad that they try to find their happiness in short-term gratification. Sad that men watch and want to f..k women who behave like this. We should look at both sides of the coin and change these our stupid conditioning to immediate and easy reward.

@JugglernautNr9

3 жыл бұрын

@@cindystarlight4107 good post

“If everything is relative, Postmodernist, and subjective, then women’s rights and choices are also just opinions and preferences.” -Kevin Everett FitzMaurice

@TOOTSWEET61

4 жыл бұрын

Thats a fact of life for women, one bought about, by men only hiring young attractive women.

@KevinFitzMauriceEverett

4 жыл бұрын

@@TOOTSWEET61 Yes, men like to look at attractive women so they will get preference when men hire women, but I never noticed that all working women were both young and attractive. If you know of such cities, you should tell men so they can move there.

@sonofwotan

4 жыл бұрын

Of course it is, as is everything they’re talking about in this video. The question then becomes, do you yield to those opinions, those value judgments? And I feel that on the whole males in Western society have allowed themselves to be put in a weaker position. I live in the east these days, and so I can look at it from the outside. Here in the east, women are for the most part kept in their place, divorce rates are low, family units are tight, and even the women themselves seem happier and more fulfilled. I have to say I think that we Westerners have taken a wrong turn somewhere, culturally speaking.

@shadow_realm47

4 жыл бұрын

@@kansashoneybadger7899 woah woah woah you're being too reasonable! Know that you're thoughts are well... Well thought-out and greatly appreciated:p

@shadow_realm47

4 жыл бұрын

@@kansashoneybadger7899 again you're far too reasonable and articulate :) When the pendulum does swing the other way, it's gonna cause a lot of damage. We as human beings tend to over correct as repentance for "sins" of the past. Your generation and the ones before you understood the value of competence and corporation. There is such a thing as "too much choice". And second order consequences of enforcing a "compassionate" dictate are rarely pondered over. If you give a person in an emotional situation unbounded legal power over another the propensity for tyranny is but a few steps away. And justified in one's mind as the " right thing" as well. Divorce is easy, finding new partners is easy, not " feeling good" and hence feeling justified in our own misdeeds and using the full extent of a terribly skewed legal system is very very easy. Competence is hard, there is a price to pay. Every competent person has to pay it in his or her time. Therefore it is valuable in the marketplace. This was the generation least equipped to psychologically handle the misgivings of the internet and the current legal scenery,so here we are.

The real tragedy is the type of man who becomes the so called incel was the child who really tried to listen to what his mainly female teachers told him. Because of his introspection and thoughtfulness he is the one who internalised it when she said the most important thing in life is to be kind and good. At uni however only a relatively short time before she growled for the type of man he would never be.

@Tomorrison28

4 жыл бұрын

Most incels have been lied to. That's why they became so bitter.

Woman: overt sexual display. Also Woman: Men ! don't respond...( unless I find you attractive then please do) Also Woman : if I don't fancy you any overtures will be considered sexual assault #metoo. Men : ???? Ok, I'm not playing anymore..

@JesusFriedChrist

4 жыл бұрын

Fuck these stupid cunts. Go your own way.

@TheMaleRei

4 жыл бұрын

PUA's - "You just ain't Alpha enough, bro! Man up! Keep her in your Frame, bro! Lift, bro! Be more Alpha!" Tradcons - "You just need to be a nice guy, young man. Just be nice and women will see your true worth. Just ignore that they get tingles over bad boys. Just be nice and just you wait, you'll win in the end." Average Guy - "If we're all Alpha, then no one is Alpha and women will then further adjust upwards. And tradcons - you can't make a ho into a housewife." PUA / Tradcon - "Bitchboy! Man Up! Just look at how happy we are!" Average Guy - "Are you trying to convince me or yourselves."

@liveanadventure429

4 жыл бұрын

Great comment

@Gizziiusa

4 жыл бұрын

Men : ???? Ok, I'm not playing anymore.. = MGTOW

@vinportobg

4 жыл бұрын

Men ??? Ok, I m not playing anymore Women: Not paying attention is also sexist.

A man who had been good all his life got a visit from God. "Since you have been such a good man I grant you one wish in the last years of your life" "I wish for a bridge to connect my small island to the mainland." "That's going to be quite a task given you are 100 miles from the mainland, can I satisfy another wish instead?" The man thought for a while then "Sure, can you explain to me why women give me the silent treatment, why they cry for no reason, why they suddenly get angry and refuse to explain to me why they are angry?" "How many lanes did you want on that bridge?"

@megauser8512

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@rexguy7823

3 жыл бұрын

That is funny

@scorpiomoon162

3 жыл бұрын

I'm not god but I am a woman and can explain it! Women and men are very different emotionally and the mistake women make is they think men have the same "emotional intelligence" as they do. It's taken me all my life and many failed relationships to realise this. Women get hurt very easily and they expect a man to know exactly what he's done to upset her, but they don't! The silent treatment, the sudden tears, the eventual anger, are borne out of frustration at not having her feelings validated. Women need to accept that men don't and cannot think the way that women do and it's no one's fault. We are wired differently

@Slarti

3 жыл бұрын

@@scorpiomoon162 are you womansplaining 😜?

@scorpiomoon162

3 жыл бұрын

@@Slarti I guess I am 😅

The point he makes around 1:25ish: you can't say that women are making impossible demands, because someone always jumps in and says "you're a rape apologist" Exactly right, and reminds me of the immigration debate, where if you say mass-immigration might be a problem, someone instantly appears to accuse you of hating Pakistanis and "wanting to send them all home." This is the politics of misrepresentation - it's deeply worrying because everyone is afraid of it. Strange that a gay man is able to see this so clearly. Then again, many straight men can probably see it - they just aren't allowed to say it...

@joshdunham7167

4 жыл бұрын

@Tiger Tamer or maybe the economic aspect of mass immigration leading to immigrants working for longer hours with minimal wage just to send back the money to their respective countries resulting is the earnings not being used in the economy and simultaneously making situations for the citizens of said country hard?

I love how Douglas gives a helping hand to small KZreadrs by agreeing to interviews. For some reason they're usually good looking young guys.

@ChrisWillx

4 жыл бұрын

He’s got a great eye for talent.

@zootsoot2006

4 жыл бұрын

@@ChrisWillx Haha, well I hope you do the gentlemanly thing and repay him for his kindness, in whatever form that might be.

@knyght27

4 жыл бұрын

lol

@KarlSnarks

4 жыл бұрын

@@zootsoot2006 Huh, I don't get it, English pounds right?

@zootsoot2006

2 жыл бұрын

@@braydynniewiadomski5454 "Have you heard the gospel of Jesus Christ before?" - Yes

Or to put it another way: women think they can act in a totally attention seeking manner and not have to deal with the attention of men they don't like. Fair enough if they want to think like that, but I can't decide if I think it's childishly naïve or dementedly psychotic.

@riririri100

4 жыл бұрын

It's weird, because when women don't doll up and make themselves look good, we complain. When they do make themselves look good, we complain.

@jamiepaxton420

4 жыл бұрын

​@@riririri100 There is no "We", I don't do that, you're speaking to your own behaviour there. Irrespective, the topic of discussion is behaviour, not appearances. The self-centred belief that one should not be held responsible for one's actions and the re-actions that one could cause in others. Which is detestable no matter the gender. It inevitably leads to distinctly anti-social behaviour. Hope that helps.

@700Penguin

4 жыл бұрын

Women don't think with logic, fairness, justice, etc. It's all about feelings and emotions and what makes her feel good. Pure hedonism. If they could manage it, they would have all undesirable men thrown into camps and genocided.

@MegaWoody1963

4 жыл бұрын

@@700Penguin , yup , The Final Solution.

@rwatertree

4 жыл бұрын

If you've ever heard women talk about guys they didn't fancy who approached them it wouldn't surprise you that they'd like to choose which men get to and how. In women's fantasyland men would know their place. We're getting there slowly via punitive tribunals and messaging about sexual misconduct.

There was a show called Ally McBeal in the 90's and one of the characters was at a club dancing with a guy all night leading him on, letting him go home with her and when he tried to get with her she attacked him. I remember it being a big deal on the show in the day proving how strong this woman was for beating the "Attacker" when all I could think is "Bitch you had your tongue down his throat, was grinding on him on the dance floor and invited him back to your place. WTF was he supposed to think?"

@MOGGS1942

4 жыл бұрын

But she can still say no, i.e., change her mind, even at the point of entry.

@jamiehartman3350

4 жыл бұрын

@Be The Change You Want Same. If women want you, you don't need to chase them. If women don't want you, you don't need to chase them.

@DrCooch

4 жыл бұрын

@himode Jesus Christ that's dumb

@DrCooch

4 жыл бұрын

@himode Really and how ? It's stupid as hell to suggest that history has absolutely any relevancy in regards to someone's capacity to suffer emotionally.

@DrCooch

4 жыл бұрын

@himode You sound resentful. Again everyoneone can suffer emotionally, and experience abuse, to say otherwise is simply absurd.

You have to understand but will never understand. Spot on.

He makes such an important point here. Your desire for the world to work a way in which it doesn't work, is not enough to force the world to change. Murray has a great rigour to his thinking which is a joy to experience, despite your political leaning.

The funniest thing is when women wear sexually suggestive, provocative clothing and then complain, 'HELLO! My eyes are up HERE!' just shaming and confusing men. I love that whole 'boss bitch' hashtag with women in miniskirts, enormous lips pushed out to look bigger than they are, chins tilted up, arms crossed: I'm your boss but you all must want to think of sex when you look at me and want me to be the most attractive woman here but you must also respect my genius and not be a pig for noticing my blow-up doll vibes. I'm lovin' it! I'm laughing out loud now. I also love women destroying other women and blaming the carnage on Joe Blow down the mechanic's yard. The behaviour of women and gay men in fashion and entertainment is always overlooked. The people over-processing their theories in university bubbles are completely detached from the average humans out there. The whole circus is terrific fun-- but just like trained tigers, you have to keep your distance from all of them because you never know when they're going to turn on you.

@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293

3 жыл бұрын

@@petermackay1929 Thank you, it's why I always clashed with my feminist peers. They were all consumed with very self-righteous, outward-focused criticisms of 'sexist men' and 'the patriarchy' and 'the objectification of women' blah blah but the entire time I was thinking 'wait, STOP! You're all horrible people! You treat other women like shit and you treat men like shit! Take a good long look at your own gender's behaviour before spending your entire time protecting, justifying and not even brutally analysing your own mentality and character. I do feel so sorry for blokes dealing with so many confused, highly manipulative women who don't do enough brutal self-examination in life. Academics in their lovely bubbles have NO IDEA it seems what really goes on 'out here' when it comes to female behaviour; why do they romanticise female behaviour and idealise women and 'the feminine' so much? What's with all the blind spots and cognitive dissonance? Must be arrogance and self-regard in the mix. And so many soppy, sentimental women love Hilary Clinton BECAUSE she's a woman, probably reminding them of the maternal vibes they got from their favourite school teacher, friend's mother or family doctor. Being so gullible and susceptible to this weird myth about women being 'safe' and 'motherly' is how people get screwed over beyond belief.

@VincentGonzalezVeg

3 жыл бұрын

Like my cousin just got pregnant and I think my eyes got stuck Boobs are awesome

Its confusing when a woman spends hours on make up and looking good just to ask a man "What are you looking at ya creep"? Come here. Get away. That is why men invented exotic sports cars. Takes all of the guesswork out for the ladies.

That opening line "You have to/You will never..." is so, so true.

The only way to win the game is not to play it. Take the "pill of a certain color" and "go your own way."

@TRIPP5_Shurikens

3 жыл бұрын

if you're entirely pathetic, then sure.

@cooldepot4378

3 жыл бұрын

@@TRIPP5_Shurikens your ignoring the unfairness in the system itself, like family court. Not being pathetic is not gonna save you when you get divorce grape or metood. its outside of your control as men.

@flawlessstrategy9972

3 жыл бұрын

@@cooldepot4378 Can't get divorced if you don't first get married.

@cooldepot4378

3 жыл бұрын

@@flawlessstrategy9972 you can still get metood

@JennySparkz

3 жыл бұрын

@@cooldepot4378 it doesn't recruit, just welcomes them when they arrive .....some smart individuals somewhere.

It doesn't matter one bit how much one demands something from you, if you're secure in yourself and aren't phased by any possible negative backlash and you don't base your self worth on external validation, the demands of others are simply of no concern to you.

@230mps

2 жыл бұрын

You missed the point entirely. Just stop with your macho pua bullshit. This problem is destroying society. You comment shows your insecurity.

Women WANT attention and validation...the second you give that to them...you are no longer needed.

I get the point and agree fully. Just found the ending kind of weird, when Douglas Murray seemed to say that for sex to happen between a man and a woman, the man needs to be in control. I don't think there's anything wrong with a woman being in control before and during sex if both parties are into what's happening, and vice versa.

@RJALEXANDER777

4 жыл бұрын

It's no bad thing for someone to be in control. Some people are more submissive and some more dominant as far as the bedroom is concerned. Of course now that everything is politicised women "have" to win the battle and "have" to be dominant in the opinion of some.

@amazingjackJF

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think that's what he was trying to say

Thank you Douglas, well said!

When Douglas speaks I always make time to listen, sometimes I don't agree but I most definitely listen & more importantly, think.

The irony is what is saying is basic common sense but that’s illegal now.

@lbilicic

4 жыл бұрын

@Imaru Lewis people lost connection to reality. Both men and women are frustrated these days. Mad times to live in.

@samalexander3629

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@user-ji4ve7sx2f

4 жыл бұрын

The more society lies to itself, the more angry it gets when someone tells the truth. - Orwell.

I love Mr Murray’s thoughts on this and unbiased view of new wave feminism, really interesting from his perspective

Wise words! It is all about power and narcissism

@contekozlovski

4 жыл бұрын

It's so obvious. Women and girls who show off on social media are narcissistic psychopaths.

"if you're rediculous, you will be ridiculed", LMAO, love that!

The only way is to tell Nicky Minaj to take a hike. Girls like that only react to rejection or being ignored.

@MOGGS1942

4 жыл бұрын

Just who/what is Nicky Minaj ?

@TranscendentLion

4 жыл бұрын

@@MOGGS1942 I think it was a Pokemon.

@neilbedwell7763

4 жыл бұрын

God forbid you reject them, they have *deigned* you suitable for whatever their siren song has in store for you, not that they will admit to what that is. Of course, if you knew, you might find it not to your liking.

@ellax325

4 жыл бұрын

I can assure you that Nicki Minaj isn't dying for your affection.

@anthonywilliams855

4 жыл бұрын

Only way ignored

Just some average guy here that notices things...Thank you for concisely expressing these subtle, yet ubiquitous realities. These “game rules” of polarized extremes are everywhere, it seems. No room for reason, expression or the third option; all or none. Something wants to own every thought, belief and expression.

Now and then I come back to listen to this...evertime soulnds right!

thank you mr murray, always useful and fruitful to hear your reasoning

Douglas Murray is a Rapper. His cover of Anaconda is amazing.

@thebatman4279

4 жыл бұрын

If he ever gets tired of socio-political analysis, at least he'll go far as Lil' Dougie.

Totally agree! It’s ridiculous. I’m a woman and I honestly feel bad for the next generation of men

What an accent this man has! It’s magical like heavenly music. Imagine living ir working with someone who speaks with that accent! 🤩

The authenticity of the laughter at 1:45 offers a pretty good idea of how hard Murray is being made to try by his audience. There’s no denying, it’s steady work.

lol the end at 5:41 sounded like "Off hands, ah yeah get away, yeah, off hands" LOL very fitting.

Who says you can't simultaneously understand some parts and not understand some parts of a person...

Spot on!

Very good point 👍 It's like presenting a dish so beautifully yet asking not to get tempted by the dish. Especially in front of a hungry person.

@deliarebaudengo5440

4 жыл бұрын

What object are we compared to today? *wheel rotating*: A DISH

another dose of sanity from the legend

I think you're overthinking the Nikki video, I think it's simply an emulation of the American stripping culture in which the customer isn't allowed to touch the performer, by law actually, one or both of them could be arrested if they are seen by law enforcement as being all over each other. So Nikki just referenced that dynamic in the video.

This video made my day.

I can't speak for anyone but myself. I am a 20 year old man and feel afraid of coming onto women because of someone saying sexual harassment, I feel like many men feel the same.

@emilyb5278

2 жыл бұрын

Don't be afraid your generation has too much media constantly warning you about everything. Get off the computer and just make friends in groups and get to know someone before you ask to take them for dinner or whatever. Most women are nice, the ones that arnt show it by being nasty catty or rude. That's why you don't jump into it just get to know someone and value character. Have fun life's short. If you want some good books on women's sexuality as in women who don't conform to damaging pornography. There are good books on tantric and kulalini sex etc. Lots if good tips cause men are not women and need to learn about their anatomy and phyci. But please go out and have fun women arnt monsters. If someone is rude it's their loss.

In my youth i was wondering why the men go to be monks now i understand xD

I haven’t yet seen how the Weinstein jury dealt with some inconvenient defence evidence. One text from an accuser (to Weinstein), read: ‘I love you I always do. But I hate feeling like a booty (casual sex) call’.

@robharris5467

4 жыл бұрын

@Tiger Tamer My view is that there was a spectrum of offending and consensual but true to form the MeToo movement conflated it all as rape.

@robharris5467

4 жыл бұрын

@Tiger Tamer Well I'd like to see the comment from MeToo that some instances were consensual. Clearly you have this information so kindly share.

@sandlotscout6358

4 жыл бұрын

@Tiger Tamer a lot of pitiful females that cared about nothing more than being famous. You act like the sexual exchange between bosses and employees to further careers is a new concept.

This is an excellent observation by someone I believe is qualified to make such statements.

I like how you said it doesn’t mean ‘men can do what they want’. Nice 👍🏾

Kind of like asking someone “when did you stop beating your spouse? “ type questions

A few women I've dated told me i wasn't confident enough or that i didn't take initiative fast enough, because i dared to wait a little longer than normal to "go for it". On the other hand I've also dated women that insisted i waited till they literally spelled it out for me, near enough untill they showed me a literal sign that said "ok now, go for it". 😅 And i think this constant up and down, wine and wane can be confusing to men at times. Obviously i can also understand that every person is different and therefore require different approaches. But i also find it interesting that it's almost made fun of if you can't read thier mind and some how just KNOW what it is they want or need you to do at a moment's notice, in heated sexual situations lol. Thankfully i found someone that doesn't keep me on some kinda guessing game.

@im3phirebird81

3 жыл бұрын

Lucky you ;)

@jupiter7627

2 жыл бұрын

There well known cycle is also a big problem. They want the aggressive leader, next week they want a sweetheart who loves kittens.

Pitch perfect. Thank you.

Modern is one of the three best wisdom channels on KZread, along with Rebel, and Norman.

Who stopped halfway to look up Murray's rap video? I did.

I like that one of the most visible book in Douglas Murray's shelves is Houellebecq! Such a great author.

@deliarebaudengo5440

4 жыл бұрын

Poor Houellebecq, he didn't deserve the humiliation

A sane voice on the Internet, I salute you Douglas Murray

Omg love love love him!

Just be Chad theory CONFIRMED

@ByCrom

4 жыл бұрын

That username!!!!

@rupeshkhode3244

4 жыл бұрын

Nope

@cooldepot4378

3 жыл бұрын

no amount of being CHAD is gonna save you from divorce grape or metoo

Ah, but men don't have to play this game at all. They can just go to another woman who is less power hungry and get their needs met with her. It's only a game when you allow yourself to be the person's game piece....and that's your fault.

@mariobros7834

4 жыл бұрын

This would be the case if women knew they would be held accountable for their actions. Since they know they won't, the majority of them is very power hungry. How many women do you know that are not addicted to male attention on social media? Sure, they all complain about it, but don't stop posting pictures of themselves either, do they?

@GodEmperorOfDune747

4 жыл бұрын

@steve m If you're going to come at me, bro, then at least present an explanation instead of a baseless statement that neither explains nor enlightens. Bring it.

@cooldepot4378

3 жыл бұрын

@Zapp Zarathustra Your completely ignoring the unfairness in the system itself. Its completely outside of men control to not get divorced grape or metood. It doesnt matter what you do or what woman you select, the court by default will always serve women. Stop blaming men for everything when its crystal clear unfairness towards men. She can look like the love of your life, always smiling, never power hungry until one day out of nowhere you are doomed. You CANNOT know the intentions of a women before hand like that. It doesnt need to be premeditated either, she can actually really love you for years, and suddendly change for whatever reason something happens thats life, and then you are doomed, theres literally nothing you can do to defend yourself. Therefore you shouldnt play at all and stay away from the get go.

perfect. I've been thinking the same thing for yrs. Give some people an inch ,they take a mile.

Hear, hear! I've been thinking the same for a couple of decades now. Somebody needed to say it and I applaud Douglas Murray for pointing it out so eloquently. It really is not fair to men and a ridiculous and impossible demand.

@guillermoperis1673

3 жыл бұрын

Indeed. Unfair, and at present just plain predictable and profoundly boring.

At some level, women are testing the water with a man when they do this. They know he can overpower her and rape her and they don't want a man who will do this. So they test him by pulling back at the last minute. I actually think this is understandable, though unfair, on the woman's part. But my natural and honest reaction to women who have done this to me in real life, is simply to say ok and then extricate myself from the situation and without saying it and very kindly and implicitly give off the vibe that she will never see me again. I have honestly felt that way and honestly planned to never see these women again and in most instances they beg for it. Couples do need to feel equal in these matters and both need to demand it.

@mikemhz

4 жыл бұрын

You get it. The correct reaction to being treated unfairly in this manner is to tell them respectfully how you feel, or walk away.

I want that library to myself!!!!

Awesome video!

Spot on Douglas.

“Women falsely claim that a fetus is their body so their choice. However, a fetus is another body. When a woman kills that other body, the woman does not automatically die, proving that it is not her body or choice.” -Kevin Everett FitzMaurice

@tenorenstrom

4 жыл бұрын

Kevin FitzMaurice "Women falsely claim that a kidney is their body so their choice. However, a kidney is another body. When a woman kill the other body, the woman does not automatically die, proving that it is not her body or choice"

@KevinFitzMauriceEverett

4 жыл бұрын

@@tenorenstrom “If you wrongly insist that a human fetus is not a person so does not have the rights of persons, then you must at least give the fetus the rights of animals to life.” -Kevin Everett FitzMaurice

@theanti-christ2842

4 жыл бұрын

The "My body my choice" phrase doesn't mean the fetus is the body of the woman. Only a degenerate would infer that. It means "the fetus relies on my body, and is going to take a toll on my body for 9 months, and is then going to shred my body coming out of me, so I should have a say whether I go ahead".

@tenorenstrom

4 жыл бұрын

Kevin FitzMaurice Why? What are you basing your claims on? Me, having seen at least my two own children up close as newborns, am not even sure the baby - post partum- is a person (ethically speaking). Don’t get me wrong, I loved and love my kids. But objectively I couldn’t argue that they were real persons until a few week post partum.

@wolfthequarrelsome504

4 жыл бұрын

@@theanti-christ2842 then don't let fetus into body. Simples.

I wish I spoke as articulately as this guy

Well said ... 👌👌👌

Well said Murray.

That's exactly the message. Until permission is verbalised, look is all you can do. If you can't contain yourself, then step away. It's not complicated or unfair.

@lh2435

3 жыл бұрын

How extremely unsexy.

Nicki is more like a cartoon than a real human though 😁

@PN5758

4 жыл бұрын

She's like 50 trillion tons of plastic

@erinsymone1645

3 жыл бұрын

You're talking about a real person, here.

@shughy1

3 жыл бұрын

@@erinsymone1645 that's debatable

@shughy1

2 жыл бұрын

@@braydynniewiadomski5454 Have you heard of brain washing?

@braydynniewiadomski5454

2 жыл бұрын

@@shughy1 Yes, of course. Have you been born again of the Holy Spirit? Do you have eternal life through faith in Jesus, or are you just going to die and go to hell? I hope it's the former.

DM is very logical and likes to posit extremes to illustrate logical differences. I love it.

Well said.

Spot on as usual. It's a devious game nowadays, and potentially very dangerous for men to be men. Women want all the cards stacked in their favour and then wonder why men don't want to play. Sadly I suspect that for many women there are some very selfish and dishonest motivations and perhaps even sadistic.

I genuinely thought i was gay for a while, but after i've started psychoterapy i've realized that that just happens when you go to college during peak wokeness. Really fucked up thing to complain but i would be lot healthier mentally if i'd still be virgin. Seeing a naked woman just has turned a distressing situation to young men because it is a no win scenario to you. She is there only for herself, and every action you could take is considered wrong. So pretty much nicki minaj's music video.

Thanks

I love you Douglas! wish we had some sensible heads in norway too

Woman learns to hate in proportion she forgets how to charm - Nietzsche, "Beyond Good and Evil"

@markspqr

4 жыл бұрын

@JW McCabe hell yeah!!!! His work is phenomenal, shaped the 20th Century

@RealityCheck6T9

4 жыл бұрын

"Woman learns to hate in proportion AS she forgets how to charm" could you have taken the trouble to get the quote right. You made Nietzsche sound like a gibbering simpleton.

@markspqr

4 жыл бұрын

@@RealityCheck6T9 if you want to be a tool about it ... Das Weib lernt hassen, in dem Maaße, in dem es zu bezaubern - verlernt.

@garethphillips6048

4 жыл бұрын

RealityCheck6T9 🤣😂🤣

@DrCooch

4 жыл бұрын

@@markspqr He might of meant that sarcastically, considering his work was disgustingly misinterpreted to fit the Nazi narrative if I'm not mistaken.

When I got married I told my wife that it was her responsibility to make me happy and it was mine to make her happy. That’s called equality

@tashhashimi9483

4 жыл бұрын

@Dharmadasa lol I am slowly learning it

Well said

I love this guy

Such an original , clear thinking guy .And what breadth of western cultural understanding . He’s barely 40.

“Handsome black guy sitting in the chair” aka Drake lol

@supafly0345

4 жыл бұрын

Do people think Drake is handsome?

@supafly0345

4 жыл бұрын

@L_ Mak that's pretty interesting. I guess Drake's superstar status makes up for his goofy looks in their eyes

Fascinating

I agree with your comment about that video portraying the game.