Douglas Murray on gender, race and identity | Liddle's Got Issues
Rod Liddle speaks to author Douglas Murray on his new book The Madness of Crowds, which focuses on gender, race and identity issues.
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The book is just excellent on all levels. Every sentence is telling, not a word wasted. Murray is smart without being elitist, clever without being arrogant. He is quick, sharp and not afraid, so the left see him as dangerous, and will take him down if they can. This book deserves to be a best seller.
@fainitesbarley2245
4 жыл бұрын
It will be a bestseller
@pippipster6767
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Douglas
@brdrcrsr08
4 жыл бұрын
Read stoe, tried to be cynical but I kept reading shaking my head in agreement. Maybe I'm just easy lead . Looking forward to this one too. I like Murray he talk simple straight up sense , and I'm left wing ! But we need an non judgemental/ emotional environment where people can talk about these issues without being vilified with one label or other. Politics is in everything .
@jay70328
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I got the audio book version, which is read by Murray. His dry reading makes it even more entertaining
@hgvasquez6273
4 жыл бұрын
BoopReview That is an excellent idea. Thank you.
We need more people like Mr Murray and Mr Liddle in this increasingly deranged world .
@deejarrett8291
4 жыл бұрын
The stone age called. They want their caveman back, "M, Jones".
@bradmodd7856
4 жыл бұрын
the world is ok, increasingly ordered, increasingly cohesive. It might be more healthy to look at it like that.
@derekbradbury749
4 жыл бұрын
M Jones They get de-platformed.
@IanP1963
4 жыл бұрын
We do !!!
@richardalvarado-ik9br
4 жыл бұрын
It was deranged in the Middle Ages, and in the last century.....When white people ruled the globe.....LOL!!! ( WWl & WWll....more people died in the 20th century than any other because of those two events ). Napoleon, Marxian Robespierre, Queen Bloody Mary Tudor, The Wars of the Roses, The Inquisition, 1990's Bosnia Conflict.....I could go on.
Douglas Murray is one of our gems at the moment.
Douglas is spot on way ahead of the curve
@loafersheffield
4 жыл бұрын
Whereas, I am waaay behind the curve. Why the sensible comment? You usually are very silly. I like silly.
@houseofzuma1033
4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately he isn't very smart ..he looks and sounds right..but his basic intelligence isn't there.He isn't very clever either.
@sirriffsalot4158
4 жыл бұрын
@@houseofzuma1033 Try writing a book about this, see how long you last in the crossfire, lol
@abigailslade3824
4 жыл бұрын
House of Zuma well I am glad you showed some proof of your assertions.
@intranext1359
2 жыл бұрын
Which Curve?
Massive crush on Douglas Murray. Love a kind, intelligent, freethinking man who’s wholly uninterested in me.
@oldmoviemusic
4 жыл бұрын
I feel you on that one... Douglas Murray is kind of the ideal man. Attractive and engaging on every level. He's set way too high of a standard for the straight men in my life! :D
@oldmoviemusic
4 жыл бұрын
@jules valentine Ha, glad I'm not the only woman out there wasting my time idealising the erudite Douglas Murray, despite the minor inconvenience of his being gay! I'm 25, and of equally low interest to him. A girl can dream, as they say! ;P
@12389Law
4 жыл бұрын
oldmoviemusic Meh, it's only a minor inconvenience. I say go for it!
@HP-fn4bo
4 жыл бұрын
I guess the best thing we can do is expose our loved ones to his works. I think one of the reasons I like him so much is that he seems to be thinking 2, 4, 7 generations ahead when most others are consumed by their ego sh*t. I’ll def give his books to my nephews as they get older.
@oldmoviemusic
4 жыл бұрын
@@12389Law Ha! Thanks Garrett :P
"I hope so, because it demoralises my enemies" Douglas Murray when talking about hoping his book sells well. Douglas, you are an absolute delight!! Intelligent, thought-provoking, analytical, eloquent, succinct - I could go on. Your book should be translated into at least 150 languages and made compulsory reading before anyone can vote, reproduce or get a job.
Why isn't this a two hour long interview? Three hours?
My grandad died in the Trans Wars. I've still got his medal.
@seekingsomething9026
4 жыл бұрын
"grandperson, bigot" - Justin Trudeau.
@Azazaazazazza
4 жыл бұрын
I heard he went across to the other side.
In another interview, Douglas said that his books are not tied together in any manner. He might not think so but I see the connection. It is about the concept of reality and what is true. Mass immigration was allowed to happen with no democratic decisions. Public discussion was stifled by name-calling and the real risk of getting jail terms for speaking your mind in some countries. The same strategy is used in forcing the new religion down the throats of people. It does not matter if your argument is valid, if it differs from ours, you are a criminal. In both cases, the stuff that actually is happening loses its meaning while how you think/talk about it and who you identify it is all that matters. Good people like this and this and this. You do not like? You are bad! My feeling is that the Internet has brought in 'enforcers' or 'influencers' who have gained power far beyond their mental/moral capabilities.
@kristyann9912
4 жыл бұрын
I agree.
@Mystie01
4 жыл бұрын
Silicon Valley where the headquarters of a lot of the Internet platforms are, is completely Left Wing.
@jdg9999
4 жыл бұрын
We've had our countries with highly ethnocentric groups from the third world, and then Douglas tells us that native Europeans shouldn't have a group identity because we all have to be individuals? It's not a serious reply to the challenge.
@katyb6979
4 жыл бұрын
Mass immigration has been a long game by a cult of supremacists to destabilise the west of all established western values. But many, while still waking up, aren't ready for that red pill moment when you finally realise who is behind all the nonsense. I long for the day when we do, and the way it's going, it won't be long...
@mogznwaz
4 жыл бұрын
I think you have made a very astute observation
Douglas Murray is just amazing.
You both have to make a longer interview , pleeassssse
@NPC-st7zv
4 жыл бұрын
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@theheraldinstitute
4 жыл бұрын
@gaza A: kzread.info/dash/bejne/c5x1laSfd8vFoc4.html
I'm off to buy The Madness of Crowds. A few clicks and it's done.
@MarttiSuomivuori
4 жыл бұрын
Get the audiobook as well. Douglas himself reads it.
@nfcribeiro
4 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@houseofzuma1033
4 жыл бұрын
If the book isn't written by a scientist or engineer i am given it a miss...Unfortunately he isn't very smart ..he looks and sounds right..but his basic intelligence isn't there.He isn't very clever either.
@nfcribeiro
4 жыл бұрын
@@houseofzuma1033 that's quite interesting really. So you reckon the voices worth hearing in what regards sociology, philosophy or history are only those of engineers or scientists. Also I'm curious to know on what exact grounds you say that Douglas isn't really very smart at all.
It annoys all the right people. Exactly :-)
Douglas Murray is my absolute hero ❤
I love Murray ❤️. Smart gentlemen.
Douglas Murray is awesome !
Just finished this today. What a good read! Recommend this to anybody that is looking to make sense of the current climate.
To know who has the power, look at who you cannot criticize.
"Annoys all the right people" love it
Douglas Murray , thank god for your common sense , your intellect & your ability to articulate your arguments !
Great stuff Douglas. Please come to the US again on a speaking/book tour!
Mr. Murray, absolutely brilliant as usual...Bravo sir, bravo!
Love Douglas and Rod.
Bought it - about to read it - LOVE Douglas Murray!
Absolutely brilliant!!!!
people should really listen to this guy more often. I know as an EU citizen Im called racist just bringing it up. no debate is allowed on immigration in EU.
Would adore an extended interview between you two.
I wish this interview/chat would go on for at least an hour
Douglas is fantastic as is Rod
Fantastic book. Very thorough and a fun but also slightly horrifying read, understanding the state of affairs we are in.
I could listen to 2 hours of this guys.
@loafersheffield
4 жыл бұрын
Well I'll meet you halfway. This is good, but it's only just over an hour. kzread.info/dash/bejne/c5x1laSfd8vFoc4.html
Terrific interview... needed to be *much* longer!
You are fantastic Douglas
Love this guy
the thing i like about murray: "oh thank god there's actually still some people who's brain works the same mine does".
Yes
Just finished the book...quite thought provoking.
Superb!
Long format please The Times, we will watch and listen to guests such as Douglas for hours. You can always release clips to gain ad revenue. Too brief but thank you, always a treat to hear mr Liddle and mr Murrays perspective.
Welcome to Orwell's 1984
That lamp
@theotherserge
4 жыл бұрын
lukas black if you’re an American, it’d remind you of the sentimental comedy “Christmas Story” 😎
I'm glad that Douglas didn't have to sit on that hard seat for too long. But I could listen to him for hours. He's right about everything!
@houseofzuma1033
4 жыл бұрын
If the book isn't written by a scientists or engineer i am given it a miss...Unfortunately he isn't very smart ..he looks and sounds right..but his basic intelligence isn't there.He isn't very clever either.
WOW this was 3 years ago. And it spot on
Two of my favourite men
Every now and again you can see liddle's eyes saccade longingly towards the liquor
@tombristowe846
4 жыл бұрын
Never heard that word before, in 68 years. Had to look it up, and I consider myself pretty literate. Never to old to learn.
Douglas Murray. Brutally honest regardless of how it plays into his own subjective world. Bravo sir! If I were gay I'd give him a hug and a kiss. He would reject it. I wouldn't even care.
I adore Douglas he hits it out of the park every time 🇬🇧 💕 & I'm learning more & more about all he 🗣 talks about. 🇺🇸 even Boris 💕💕🎶
Hes such a breath of fresh air, talks a lot of sense. I'm not gay but I love his smile ☺
God damn brilliant.
i have bought both books and they are spot on, totally a good read.
Two of my favourite pundits together, make it a longer interview next time.
excellwnt lamp shade in the background. two brilliant Spectator columnists
Using race, gender, and any other identity political grievances as a battering ram for brute politics. That’s the best description I’ve seen yet!!!
Ordering a copy now
I just bought a copy! And audio too, listen to in the car.
Love the lamp Rod, where can i get one?
Ha ha love the lamp!
Where was this filmed? I Like that "legs and a bustier" lamp on the bar - I want one!
Tnx
Where can I get that lamp? This interview was way too short.
Why is Liddle interviewing an author about his new book without having first read the book?
@s.gharavi1614
Жыл бұрын
He doesn't read
I have wrote to Douglas a few times over issues he's a very hard man to get a reply from - yet I see him on all these progs being interviewed with the great and good. A man with a load of common sense though.....!!!!
This interview stopped just as it started going
I don’t imagine this man is terribly popular in the UK. But he is brilliant nonetheless.
I want that lamp
Murray's motivation could be summed up with Kingsley Amis's "You just notice them." Though I am intrigued enough to read his book.
@daveerwin6981
4 жыл бұрын
His motivation is profit from dumb cunts. In an era of climate catastrophe brought on by blind capitalism, he's worried about trans and powerless minorities? Dumb cunts believe anything that'll help them justify their failure. And that's where an opportunist with a post accent steps in to line his pockets and boost his profile
"Rod Liddle" 😂😂 okay hilarity over, I'll now listen.
Anyone else fed up with those Chinese dance adverts ?
EVery time i watch a Brit interview Douglas Murray I hear them wrap it up with 'Dr. Smurry, Thank you' when I replay it it sounds completely different
From whence a person's sexuality derives should not be stated in binary terms. It is best described by coordinates on a plane of quadrants where the _x_ axis runs along a line of nurture/nature and the _y_ axis along a heterosexual/homosexual line. Somewhere within those quadrants will lay most people's sexual orientation.
And no personal space was respected that day.
What!? That can't be it!
The field of Quantitative Genetics recognizes that phenotype is the (sum of) the result of genetic and environmental factors at play during development. Genetic factors don't often account for more than 30% of the variation in phenotype for any trait. Animal and plant breeders are very familiar with this phenomenon! Read "Quantitative Genetics" by Falconer and McKay for the basic ideas. It is difficult for a geneticist to observe the politicizing and distortion of objective scientific facts! This will back up some of Douglas' points.
Douglas Murray and Tom Hollander, separated at birth.
brilliant. too short...
Man he is a genius
ALL human behaviors are individual control.... We may not choose our tendencies, but we choose what we focus on and our behavior in response to our internal tendencies... individual responsibility and free will
@s.gharavi1614
Жыл бұрын
How very western of you to be so extreme. 😆
Whats with the red lamp in the backround???!!wtf
The dark hand in brute politics.
Theil,Kanye,and Greer have all been unvictimed.
I was expecting Adam Shiit.
Are we not the most pathetic minority...; the sane. Do we get brownie points?😄
Douglas Murray is very much right and Europe must stop immigration and try to resolve "multiculturalism" problems and ban actions and people who do not respect the law and customs of the countries to which they emigrated.
I love him. I want to marry him.
Three weeks and they can’t fix the sync issues?
What's it about? It's about 300 pages.
Im currently subbing this to spanish, if the uploader wants the srt file message me please.
Europeans need to stand up and save themselves.
Love grumpy old Rod and smart youngish Douglas upsetting Yasmin Alibi Brown and other 'Guardian' bods.
At first i failed to understand how fringe activism, trans, gender and other such " niche" debates , where and are given such high profile news worthiness, then i realised that it is driven from universities and thus t.v. media via appointments to those university graduates in media, arts, politics. These people are a minute number with extreme views compared to the vast majority of people. Most people couldn't care less if people are trans. In fact most people go by the premise " do what you want unless it harms others". The mistake these activists make is moving to ridiculous stances of " more than two genders" or saying trans men should be able to compete in sports with women. These stupid ideas hold back acceptance of trans people and stoke a backlash in many cases
"Everything to do with trans" (proceeds to show picture of drag queen...)
@Patrick3183
4 жыл бұрын
JudgeHill83 I noticed that too.
Must've been going through the minds of indigenous western hemisphere peoples when Columbus, Cortes,and the Pilgrims showed up 500 yrs ago......remember the ending of Mel Gibson's Apocalypto. Poor Dougy......I feel bad for him....LOL!!!
They're talking about the BBC again.
This is the emperors new clothes.
Murray is one of the few contemporary writers who is willing to lift the veil on sexual politics and the PC nonsense and expose its neo-Marxist underpinnings. Most writers lack the forum for doing so, because the media is unthinkingly liberal, and they would be fired for daring to depart from the party line. Murray is wonderfully articulate here, speaking in sound bites, but he is far more nuanced and persuasive in his book. Read the book. My only reservation with Murray is that he is so apologetic about denouncing the inanity of the PC movement. The ultra-left has as its object the undermining of traditional Western values and the destruction of capitalism. That is the agenda to which Murray alludes here. The PC arguments need to be reduced to their core premises and cultural Marxism exposed for what it is. Murray devotes too much time and gives too much deference to the manifestations of the movement and spends too little time exposing its intellectual flaws and pretensions.
The lamp in the background is horribly tacky
You can talk about it. You are talking about it. You've literally written and published a book on it.
@JDela10
4 жыл бұрын
He means you can't talk about it without it being a detriment to your life. He even gave several examples including Germaine greer and Kanye West lol. Keep up.
@tommoelbommo
4 жыл бұрын
@@JDela10 It seems you can - the book deal and international publisher's tour would indicate as much. Haha
@JDela10
4 жыл бұрын
@@tommoelbommo Douglas even says himself he probably has more room for this because he is gay lol. But what he is saying is generally true. He is not saying that people physically can't say words lol he is saying that the response they tend to get when they question certain things is the problem and effectively creates censorship of sorts. Often self-censorship as people keep their heads down.
@tommoelbommo
4 жыл бұрын
@@JDela10 the 'response they tend to get' is a publishing deal, celebrity, and plaudits in KZread comments sections. Its straw men, buckets of conjecture; all playing to some weird narrative that you're culturally dispossessed and fettered.
@JDela10
4 жыл бұрын
@@tommoelbommo why don't you try reading the book and seeing any of his examples or even just listen to him giving them in videos like this?
Rod Marvolo Liddle is an anagram for I AM LORD VOLDEMORT, just saying.
@no-body-22
4 жыл бұрын
No it isn't, there's no T.
@mikespilligan1490
4 жыл бұрын
Rod Marvolot Liddle
Yeah this guy is awesome and i agree whit everything he say, but when i listen to this i dont agree a 100% and how i hear it some parts had bin mixt around. This dough however make me balieve I havent got it all understod, i think its me who dont understand fully, and he is probably right as allways. But ima ask open here and maby some one in here, I would like to ask Murray him self and have hin explain but his probably a realy bussy man. But Hardwere/softare, he say its all about hardwere and its not like alkholism or a gen, he then say its probably a mix of genes and uppringning or suronding influencis, we dont know so mutch yet, coz not aloud to talk about, I am a sober alcoholic sins years back and I have gayness in the family and whit one in the family here friend comes men and women, and they all agree on on thing they didnt deside to be gay or bi not all was all in total gay mixter of thing, I never giv it so mutch toghut, Im self straight but I never eaven think about there sexual orientation, the dident make out open at the table, straight people dont do that so why should gay 🤷♂️ So the where born whit it, uppringning mother father as in most of the cases, so I dont say its a geen or a mixt of geens (but it probably is. And how can it then be hardwere? Hardwere is the outer layer of computor, its the pushpottons that is hardwere, the plastik and small metallic inside comutor. And software are the inside Windows 7, if u have a game and Facebook on ur computor thats Softwere. Is he switching part, like does he mean softare but hardwere comes out? Or have i not fully understand. Im sorry for my english spelling, im a sweden.
He's got soup all down him hasn't he?