Searched the whole shop. Cannot find the dog. I am desperate. Need help!

Here’s another one. How about crapping at home before you go to the crag? It’s pretty disgusting to find piles of human poo behind boulders. And ladies, if you need to wee and use toilet paper, why not take the paper home with you in your rubbish bag?

@valaudae1809

4 жыл бұрын

Andy Z1268.45 Excellent point. Standing in someone else’s turd is a tad more upsetting that a few chalk marks.

@jontweedlie6394

4 жыл бұрын

And bring a trowel to bury your waste should you get caught out!

@m12652

4 жыл бұрын

And remember... on multi-pitch routes, a small pile of rocks on a ledge is not a cairn, avoid disturbing them 💩

@carsonreid7133

4 жыл бұрын

Don't be a surface dumper

@helenwinston9455

4 жыл бұрын

I would recommend using a sanitizing wipe and then having a little ziploc bag to put the wipes in when you're done using it. Sanitizing wipes are more efficient than having a whole roll with you, and the ziploc bags keep from getting your bag all gross.

5:09 Nice to see Magnus Midtbø on this channel ;)

@jasonbell6670

4 жыл бұрын

beat me to the punch lol

@mattFromNorway

4 жыл бұрын

I often call that going full Midtbø, or as I say it "Jeg kjører full Midtbø på denna"

@pangajackterhor

4 жыл бұрын

LOL!!!!!!

@BrannonGlover

4 жыл бұрын

He does love his chalk. And now he's selling the bags too.

Looked really fun to film this. Great educational video.

Loud music isn't only an annoyance to other people. It can also disturb nesting birds and other wildlife.

@m4573r_

4 жыл бұрын

Whereas climbing...

@ericastier1646

Жыл бұрын

@@m4573r_ ... doesn't. It might attract vulture who think you will fall.

What triggers me most are a climbing schools or really big groups. They usually take 4 best lines of 10-12 available and keep ropes in them for whole day. Better ones let you top-rope on their ropes when any of clients don't want to climb it but don't dare to want actually lead it.

@Destort

4 жыл бұрын

annoying yeah but, at least there are a couple solid solutions like getting to the crag early or working harder lines which larger groups tend to shy away from.

@MeshiMeshi-vu2hs

4 жыл бұрын

@@Destort That really isn't the solution. True story from the February from our ice climbing trip. We woke up in 5am to be on place in 7am (with first light). We managed to climb two lines and when we wanted to move on everything else with reasonable tick ice was covered in top ropes of school.

@andm6847

4 жыл бұрын

I find big groups or schools only slightly annoying because can understand why they exist. What really annoys me is when these big groups set up 8 topropes for 12 people and then many of the climbs are blocked for hours without anyone climbing on them.

@chaosengine4597

4 жыл бұрын

what's your solution? no climbing trainings? As a (hobby) trainer that helps my trainers with their courses I can tell you it's a pain to find "suitable" rock with some useable routes fitting the trainees' level. I know it's annoying, but there is no easy solution.

@leegosling

4 жыл бұрын

Meshi. Meshi Talk to them... I’ve taught climbing for over 30yrs and have always prioritised other users... it’s really easy to just work around each other and even at busy crags I’ve hardly ever had an issue... if climbers arrive when I’m leading a session I normally go to meet them as they arrive (be proactive)... ask what routes they want to do... explain our timings (normally the actual climbing bit with groups is only an hour or so)... discuss how we can share lines and mutually exist... if need be change our plans... we can always still meet our objectives... I think it’s a huge point of learning for group sessions sometimes to make way for a climber doing their own thing... crag etiquette should be taught from the outset.

Usefull information. Love how Mat plays the badly behaved climber, he does it so well 😂

Brushing off tick marks was a good tip! I'd not thought much of it before

funny how these things should all be common sense and just good practices for life in general.

Clean your shoes before you climb!! Or when stepping off a vegetated ledge. etc. And practice good efficient footwork. Dirty shoes and poor footwork leads to accelerated polish which leads to trashed routes.

Thank you for the leash mention! Holy shit, nobody around here ever keeps their dog on a leash, and i no longer take my dog climbing because of it.

@SteveTownshend

4 жыл бұрын

My dog (he’s a very gentle whippet who doesn’t bark or get excited), was in his bed at the crag in Squamish and this hig aggressive dog came over to him and attacked him! Almost killed him! My guy would have died if I wasn’t 1 meter away and able to pull the big dog off him in 3 seconds! I rushed my guy to the vet with a 6cm hole in his neck and they saved his life. I’ve seen so so many dogs that the owner thinks is “nice” and “doesn’t need a leash” come over to my dog and won’t leave him alone and just fuck off. My dog actually doesn’t need a leash because he sits beside me the whole time. But I STILL put him on a leash if there’s anybody at the crag besides us. And aggressive, rambunctious, barking dogs should be left home! Not brought to the crag.

@pangajackterhor

4 жыл бұрын

I hate when because of shit owners or parents dogs or children get the short end of the stick. It was not the dogs fault for f*ck sake is the shitty ass lazy human that didn't train the dog!

@jimmyday656

4 жыл бұрын

We came out of the My Whitney area after a multi day backpack and climb trip. Several times we were confronted by aggressive dogs.... unnerving at best. Leash or leave at home.

@ericastier1646

Жыл бұрын

@@jimmyday656 This dog owners problem seems to be widespread, it is always the same story they think based on how the dog behaves with THEM and when THEY are around that it is "ok" to let it roam nearby them. It is not ! Dogs behavior changes exponentially when the distance that separates them from their owners increases. I am a trail jogger and i am thankful there are rules posted "All dogs must be on leash" and many still violates this. I've summoned many dog owners with reports to be fined. They usually all see the problem, they know that their dog is not perfectly safe but don't care. Now i run with a military knife or bear spray that i will not hesitate to use if attacked by a dog. And even if the dog only wants to 'play' that is not ok, when a large dog comes at you, you have no way of knowing its intention (which can be vicious. Attacking dogs don't bark) and the fright alone should be fined to the dog owner.

Great tips, thanks for doing this! Share this video as widely as possible!

great video!! some hilarious scenes. good job

Some serious points very well made in a light hearted fashion. Nice one

100% of this is common sense for climbers and having to make videos like this speaks for the state in which society as a whole is....

Parking is a big one. Crappy parking pisses off locals and climbers alike

Super informative, love this!

I bet it was not the first time of Matt chalking his face :D He looks pretty advanced in these silly stuff ;)

@ericastier1646

Жыл бұрын

i thought that too.

many valid points,the music point is somthinge i feel have to say needs to be considerd whatever or not the people around the crag/bouldering spot yea you got it is okay with it or not, can aso be people just having a hike, never been to big of a problem for me at least, im more of a guy that engurages music to be honest, but im also fine not having it on if people around is not fine with it, never really put music on myself thought when outdoor climbing, but i get the point that not everyone likes to hear music outside, but i rather have them tell whoever does that to turn it off or lower it if the get disturbed bye it

Les Gaillands is one of the very few crags that comes with a modern bathroom and even a cafe nearby. Otherwise, I would add toilet etiquette to the list...

Went to a local crag and there was only one other group there. They had gear on route A, top rope set up on route B, and were actively projecting route C. They didnt even touch route A-B for about 2 hours, but left all that gear there as if they were actively climbing those routes. I am a big abuser of rule 9 here. My hands sweat profusely and i have to chalk up while climbing quite a bit. I always feel bad about it and try to brush it off while im repelling down if i can.

@henkfermeul3720

4 жыл бұрын

I leave the rope or the gears on the route sometimes for different reason but it's ok if someone else pull the rope or use my gears. Feel free to ask.

Two more important things: - Please don't climb with dirt on your climbing shoes! The grippy texture of footholds will last much longer, especially on limestone - If theres a sling or litte cord in the first bolts, don't climb on the route. It's a project of someone who paid for the bolts and did all the work to create that route

@Mike-oz4cv

4 жыл бұрын

“If theres a sling or litte cord in the first bolts, don't climb on the route. It's a project of someone who paid for the bolts and did all the work to create that route” I’ve never heard of that one and it seems very strange to me. Rock and climbing routes are generally open for the public.

Good start to raise awareness

spreading out gear all over the place has become too common. Then packing up stuff in a hurry and accidentally packing other peoples stuff is unfortunately also happening.

Very useful, thanks a lot!

There are some rock types that will degrade a lot faster when you apply chalk. That's why chalk is banned in some areas. Please check with local rules before using chalk at all!

Garden Of The Gods in Colorado Springs, CO just put a total ban on ALL chalk use. Brutal. Next they are gonna ban bolts and gear, I swear. Hard to even show non-climbers where routes are, it's all so naturally hidden.

I felt personally attacked by the chalking part hahahaha

Fantastic! Wish more people had better manners at the crag, indeed.

Less gatekeeping would be something outdoor climbers should invest in.

What a cool location.

Similar to the third point: try not to be too chatty near the wall if you’re at a more crowded crag and not climbing/belaying. Makes it tougher for climbers and belays to communicate.

Nice!!!

Do you try gray Chalk for outdoor climbing?

It's just respect, not only applied to the crag, but also to life in general.

Brush holds and ticks is a cool thing to do!

Common sense seems to be the big lesson here since, we've seen exceptions to most of these rules. - Chill/well trained dogs are fine off leash - Music being fine if you get permission from the people around/ you are the only people around - When you're projecting a hard route everyone tends to spitball ideas on how to send which results in beta spray. - Parking gets dodgy once the lot is full. Suddenly there's no rules and anything goes. But, if you're leaving trash (or shit) at the crag. There's literally no excuse outside of negligence. Try to do your part and clean up after others even.

@baneudel

4 жыл бұрын

Music in nature is IMHO always a no-go and dogs off the leash in nature is literally illegal in many countries. Both because it disturbs the wildlife.

@outdoorvertical

4 жыл бұрын

no music at the crag , it's simple, no I don't want to listen to yours or anyone elses tunes. Thanks

@Destort

4 жыл бұрын

@@outdoorvertical hence the asking. Not everyone feels the same way you do. Please be cordial. Thanks.

@SteveTownshend

4 жыл бұрын

I disagree with you about music. Never okay, EVEN IF you ask. Some people don’t want to be confrontational or “the bad guy”. You shouldn’t put them in that situation, forcing them to be the one who says no. And like Matt pointed out in the video, other people might be around the corner where you can’t see them, but they can hear your music. Music annoys a lot of people. It’s never okay. Even when you think it is. It’s not.

@chad4853

4 жыл бұрын

Thats what they make ear buds for... then everybody is happy. Just pay attention... while using "one" not both of them or while climbing, enjoy the great out doors.

Great book on this highly recommend for anyone new or old that cares: The Crag Survival Handbook.

@awggie

4 жыл бұрын

www.mountaineers.org/books/books/the-crag-survival-handbook-the-unspoken-rules-of-climbing

Just one question is Matt’s blue rope the tendon master pro 9.2 (turquoise colour)?

If 'people are trying to work a route or onsite something' the most annoying thing is chalk ... it reduces routefinding and hold discovery to climbing by numbers. So annoying.

@dilligafwoftam985

4 жыл бұрын

PS nice to see le Vert ... how's the pub?🇦🇺

Here's one. Having smokers smoke a good distance away from the wall. Nothing more annoying to me then when I'm trying to send hard and I get a horrible whif of nicotine up my nose!

Love the chalking up 🤣🤣🤣 people’s rope management sometimes, why do you decided to pull a rope down now I am halfway up a climb leave it until I have clipped or I am at the top. Rope whips hurt lol

Crank up the toons let your dog run free and chalk the hell out of the place the rain does its job

what backpack is matt using here?

I can imagine how hard it was, later on, removing all the chalk you used :p btw it's true, since where I live powder chalk isn't allowed, also outside I'm climbing without.

3:07 oh fuck yeah, spread it!

Lmao the „chalking up have become a habit rather than a necessity“. It drives me crazy watching some people climb rechalk 100x while resting

Can we get a vid on how to best set up a route for top roping?

@m12652

4 жыл бұрын

No need, just go to a climbing wall and they already have them set up 😉

If you find quickdraws, carabiner, piece of rope or webing in a route or in a multipitch : you can use them but don't bring it with you!

What are the teal shoes Matt's colleague (who's name I can't remember because I am terrible) is seeing holding and wearing? I have a feeling my partner wants to give those a try for reasons.

@armeller5299

4 жыл бұрын

They're from SoiLL, I believe it's the 'Runner' model. Not sure many would recommend :D

Loud music at the crag, always. Got it.

This is a great video, and I wish everyone watched it before going outdoors. As other commenters said, this is all common sense, but I've seen live every bad example shared in this video. I think our role as climbers is to not only stick to these guidelines, but also to actively enforce it from other people in the crag when we see them do something bad. It can lead to uncomfortable exchanges, but at the end of the day you help make the climbing world a better place.

I'm chalk guy. 😬 Working on it. I scare easy...

I know I’m particularly sensitive coming from a gritstone area. But I bristled a lot when the brush came out and started scrubbing away. Indoor climber’s faux pas. Cleaning climbs should be avoided unless absolutely necessary. Sure on some brand new ultra hard route carefully remover dirt and vegetation. But to see noobs trying to scrub the lichen or the patina off the rock 🤬 Chalk can lifted with a slap of the hand or item of clothing, sleeve etc.

@mikerowland8004

4 жыл бұрын

That was talking about cleaning off tick marks which even the BMC encourages. Not cleaning new boulders of vegetation. Absolutely, that should be left to those that know what they are doing or under the watchful eye of those that know what they are doing. We have to remember as climbers that it's not just our playground and leaving nasty chalk marks all over the rocks is unsightly to many and could end up causing us access issues if we don't look after places and people complain. Same goes for other issues in this video, considerate parking, crapping at the crag, litter and noise. I know climbers aren't the only ones that do this but we are easily singled out and blamed so we have to try to be better than those others that do most of the other things. Unsightly chalk is sadly our bag though. I think NOT climbing on wet rock needs to be a big one too. I don't think that I'm disagreeing with you, just fleshing out what you said.

Matt dance!!

How about don't bring a camping stove and cook potent food at the crag. Or carry on loud conversations with your climber while belaying. Long story short, no one wants to see, hear, or smell you. Whatever you can do to minimize that, do it!

ok i was beta spray guy, I'll take it easy

Biggest thing is safe belaying.

5:58 I thought he split his pants

My local crag has become overrun by people predominantly traveling from the SF bay area, making it difficult to find a route and parking. How do we make them forget and climb closer to their homes?

@Destort

4 жыл бұрын

Help establish their local crag instead I suppose.

@JasonOgasian

4 жыл бұрын

Ha, I have folks from the Bay at all my local crags every weekend too. Clearly they need MORE gyms to keep them home on the weekends 😂

@m12652

4 жыл бұрын

Break into their cars, just smash a window or something. I’ve seen it produce excellent results in Spain.

@davidsimpson3885

4 жыл бұрын

@@m12652 wtf, crag don't belong to you just cos you're local, the whole point of climbing outdoors is going to different places, I travel all over the country to climb, I climb where ever I end up going on holiday, even if it's a beach and sun holiday with the missus.

@m12652

4 жыл бұрын

David Simpson lol sorry mate, I was being sarcastic.

The music one made me angry. Who does that!? I had a couple on the route next to me ask if they could play music once. I was so stunned in the moment that it was even a consideration, especially since they were more experienced. Of course it's not OK, but at least they asked.

@Destort

4 жыл бұрын

Little over the top reaction for just some tunes don't you think?

@JasonOgasian

4 жыл бұрын

I was once at a crag where a couple was blasting classical music. I felt like a bad person for being annoyed by it :-P

@junk204

4 жыл бұрын

@@JasonOgasian ah yes, nothing like some chopin to really get your blood pumping

@SteveTownshend

4 жыл бұрын

100% agree you should NOT play music. Some people think it’s okay if they ask the other people there. But I’d go one step farther and say you shouldn’t even ask! Because some people don’t want to be confrontational or put in a situation where they have to say no. So they might not object because they don’t want to be “the bad guy” but they actually aren’t okay with it. Music at the crag is NEVER okay. If you want music, bring headphones so only you can hear it. Other people don’t like your music. Glad Matt included this!

@ChristineSK

4 жыл бұрын

@@SteveTownshend 100% agree with this. Don't even ask as some people are not comfortable to say no. I've never met anyone that like to listen to somebody else's music when they climb. It's always annoying in a varying degree. Just don't do it and use earbuds in one ear if you absolutely need music.

One more: be cognizant of other people trying the same route. How many other people are trying that route? Are other people projecting it and close to sending? If yes, then their redpoint attempt takes priority over your working attempt. Don’t hog a route for 40+ minutes working the beta if there’s other people trying to redpoint it. Come work it another day when it’s not busy. Some considerations around this: how many hours before it gets dark or in the sun? How many other people are trying it? What’s the temperature (if it’s freezing and you take forever, then the person trying to send that day will get too cold). Be aware of other people and don’t try a hard project for the first time when 3 or more other people are doing redpoint tries. Sometimes to mitigate this, just go work beta on HALF of it on one try, and do the beta for the other half another try. Or if someone is trying to send and it’s their project, tell them “whenever you’re ready to go, let me know and I’ll come down”. Redpoint takes priority over working beta

@demos360

4 жыл бұрын

I’m all for communicating with and accommodating other climbers. But the idea that one persons attempt takes priority over another another’s because of the level they are climbing at is pushing it. Probably keep that attitude to yourself (have been there) or risk a further break down in etiquette and decorum (be told to f*** off)

@SteveTownshend

4 жыл бұрын

demos360 it has nothing to do with the level you climb. I’ve been to crags more times then I can count where 3 people are all doing redpoint tries (ie. one-fall either at the crux or even after the crux. A “try” usually taking 2 to 10 minutes) on a route they’ve all put significant time and effort into, and then some random person who’s never been there decides that they want to get in line to try it for their first time and they go bolt-to-bolt for over and hour (and sometimes closer to 2 hours). It’s rude, and disrespectful of the other people there. The new person needs to be aware of their surroundings and respectful of others. That is standard etiquette. I’ve seen this as an observer when I wasn’t involved many times, on 5.12’s, 13’s and 14’s. The grade or how “hard” someone climbs isn’t relevant. It has nothing to do with the stronger climber having priority over the weaker. And if you read that in my comment then you misunderstood what I said. Sorry. You don’t just get on a route at your limit, taking an hour or longer when there’s people (maybe much weaker than you) who’ve put in time and are trying to redpoint. I’ll take it one step farther and say, even if nobody is close to redpointing, you STILL need to be cognizant of how long you’re on a route, depending on how many other people also want to try it (regardless of grade or how strong anybody is). If one other person is trying it, then obviously you can each take much longer. But if 6 people are trying it, then don’t take an hour on the route. If you need that long to work the beta (going bolt-to-bolt and taking 20+ tries to sort out beta and specific sequences and individual moves between bolts), then come back another day when it’s less busy. PS. I never said one person gets priority because of the level they’re climbing (because they are stronger than someone else). I don’t think that, and hence I’d never say that. I treat everybody with equal respect all the time. I don’t care if someone climbs 5.10 or 5.15. I don’t judge someone based on how hard they climb. And I really don’t like that attitude that’s so prevalent in many sports. I’ve been doing this shit way to long to care how hard someone climbs. Are they a nice person? That’s all I care about. When I personally try a route I know is near my limit, I expect the first time will take me over an hour, and I likely won’t even do all the moves. I would NEVER think to take that long on a new route if I see that there’s someone else going for redpoint. If it was only one other person, I always ask how long they want to rest, and tell them that I’ll go up but am happy to come down as soon as they’re ready to try again. They take priority over me if I’m working the moves and they are redpointing.

Besides "spewing beta" non stop how about non stop encouragement no matter if the climber is not struggling - "you got this, breathe through it, nice" and so on like a talking doll with a pull string. Another one is be careful about engaging a belayer from another party in a lot of chit chat. It does not inspire confidence in the person climbing hearing their belayer having a in depth conversation with some stranger. Likewise if you see someone climbing what would be very easy for you do not assume they are not totally gripped. They may not want anyone from any other party asking any questions no matter how simple or short. Anyway at least check it out with the climber if they are ok with you carrying on a conversation while belaying. Here is another one. Before just jumping on a climb that is unoccupied when you first get to a crag if there is a party right next to it ask that party their plans. They might be just about to finish a climb and were moving to that climb next. It is not like strangers in a grocery store check out line or freeway driving. Pretend like you might see that party again somewhere. Similar are big parties that get to a crag and try to reserve all the climbs they plan on doing for they day by laying out their gear by each climb they intend to do even if they might not get to it in plenty of time for others to climb it and move on. Showing up to a crag with 8 or more climbers in a party is uncool in my book. I have seen numerous groups of a dozen or more. NOLS instructors try to be considerate about it usually.

I think the first point is trying to not drive your car to the crag but rather use public transport or ride your bike

@RicardoRocco90

4 жыл бұрын

normally a outdoor climbing wall is out of the city and you are caring a lot of weight with all the gear and probably food for the day. i dont agree with your point

@Archer-ec8tx

4 жыл бұрын

I think carpooling would be a better thing to encourage

If you HAVE to shit at the crag (try to go at home/campground before you go climbing), then walk FAAAAAAAAAAAR away, make sure you go where NO human will EVER accidentally stumble upon it, and BURY it!!! Do not leave toilet paper out ever! (Ladies, this includes you peeing)! Bury it or pack it out in a plastic bag. Never ever ever left where it is visible. And never go within 100m of the base of any cliff, even if there’s no climbs there (yet). Somebody might want to develop new climbs right there. I’ve seen some amazing undeveloped tufas with tons of shit below them, and seen/smelled crags destroyed from the sight of toilet paper and awful overpowering smell! 🤢🤮 Ceüse is an example of somewhere full of shit and toilet paper. It’s disgusting.

Of all the things mentioned in the video, none of it gets on my nerves as much as people with their excessively loud music. Such a disrespect for people around trying to either concentrate or enjoy their time in nature.

@m4573r_

4 жыл бұрын

"Nothing gets on my nerves as much as people imposing their selfish wish for silence to everyone. Such a disrespect for people around trying to concentrate listening to the music they like and enjoy their time in nature" :shrug: Stay angry! ;-)

@ikkoichigo

4 жыл бұрын

@@m4573r_ loud music is not only selfish because of other people but it disturbs wildlife! it's like someone coming to your home with a huge speaker... such a short sighted, egocentric point of view

@m4573r_

4 жыл бұрын

@@ikkoichigo How profoundly ironic that you justify imposing your preference to other by calling them "selfish" :) And disturbing wildlife? come on... If you're so concern, don't drive to the crag, don't take any metallic gear with you, and most importantly, don't climb! It's like someone parking in your front lawn, jumping on your furniture, and getting their hands in every corner or your living room!

@DaleTurrell

4 жыл бұрын

@@m4573r_ Don't be daft, I know you can tell the difference between playing music and forcing other people to hear it, and the natural sound of the environment. If you can't stand the sounds of the birds and the wind you can always use headphones.

@merryjane7558

4 жыл бұрын

like that person in a crowded public area, using their speaker phone.

No hammock bombing! Meaning, leave the hammocks in the car or at camp. When I go to popular crags I always see at least one person with a hammock in the belay area not even climbing. Very annoying.

I see a lot more top ropes in my area than lead climbing

@Nb_edu

4 жыл бұрын

Shame

@KillroyX99

4 жыл бұрын

Edu Nb , more time consuming, right?

@KillroyX99

4 жыл бұрын

Edu Nb ,It seems like people are just more comfortable top topping even if they know how to lead

@Nb_edu

4 жыл бұрын

@@KillroyX99 well I dont know. But theres a common perception amongst my climbing community that only when you are lead climbing you are "really" climbing.

@JasonOgasian

4 жыл бұрын

I had the same thought. A lot of popular crags are mostly top ropes where I live, especially on weekends. It seems like every group brings one "leader" and then they all just TR laps on the route.

Bad behaviour Matt is weirdly attractive.

Wow she is really beautiful.

Please, tell people how to sh....in the woods.

please, don't bring your dog at the crag, The dog is not a human being, and I really hate being owners pretending their dog is listening to etiquette topics. a dog is a dog, and does his job. That is not compatible with the crag and the users o it. The dog barks, smells, tastes, poos and pees and more on. It's his nature. Don't get him away from his nature. Don't bring it at the crag. That is it.

@EMoritzxD

4 жыл бұрын

wait what???

@richardfelderer295

4 жыл бұрын

@@EMoritzxD I tell you this: one day at a local crag where I used to live I was belaying my partner and one dog arrived, smelled my rope and peed on it. I could not do much but keep on belaying, and pass the wet rope through my grigi and... not really enjoying the moment! No big deal, but, you know...it has not been a nice moment. I had a discussion with the owner, but the discussion was meanless: the dog did what mother nature suggested him to do, and even the nicest owner could not do anything about this. The owner btw felt really uncomfortable for the situation, and offered me to buy the rope as if it was new. Really a nice guy. But this is not the solution to the problem, the problem stays on another level, because the dog will do it again, or will be punished to avoid other future issues. Two bad solutions. This is just a "nice story", but than you have unrespectful owners, stupid dogs ("stupid" means: behaviours that don't match with other climbers needs), people who are afraid of dogs, people who are allergic... I don't know: if I had a dog, I would never go to a crag with him where there might be other people. It's just a metter of respect.

I love the content of almost every single video! This was great except for "keep your dog on a leash" if you don't train and love your dog to make him/her an actual dog don't have one. But for those of is that do I just say f*k that, my dog just like your annoying badmannered children will be off leash. Sorry it's just frustrating how some ignorant ppl just *buy* dogs and don't train them and same with kids have them and not teach them. Again loved the video! And always excited when a video comes out :D

@luquinhasleiva

4 жыл бұрын

Indeed, I'd rather see kids on a leash that dogs, some people don't like kids

@aherosstory5982

4 жыл бұрын

Just don't complain when your dog gets bit by another dog that is on a leash when it runs up to that dog. It's just good manners to keep your dog on a leash.

I disagree with not letting dogs of the leash. Better to check first with the people on the crag how they feel about it and then see if it needs to be on a leash or not.... if you dont like dogs, but the dog is not doing anything to you...it is not the dogs fault. It is like when babies cry on the crags... bear it.

If you are going to keep your dog on a leash better not to bring it, poor little thing been restricted to the leash length

Don’t top rope trad routes, you’re ruining them for people that can actually climb. Trad is more dangerous than sport and the extra polish that top roping brings can result in a trad climb becoming excessively dangerous. Also, if you have to abseil down the same line try to go easy on your feet for the same reason. Trad is about on-siting, if you’re not comfortable with that maybe go to a sport crag or get someone else to lead.